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The conversation explores the impact of technology and social media on different generations, particularly Generation X and Generation Z. It discusses the evolution of communication and the role of social media in shaping societal values. The conversation also delves into the parenting styles and changing values that have influenced the younger generations. It examines the characteristics and preferences of different generations and the challenges they face in the modern world. The conversation concludes with a discussion on the importance of independence, work ethic, and social skills in navigating life. The conversation explores the changing high school experience, the challenges of text messaging, the importance of FaceTime, and the need for visual communication. It also discusses the technological advancements of baby boomers, the resistance to technology, and the lack of major inventions in recent generations. The conversation touches on the challenges faced by baby boomers, the changing role of women, and the decline of marriage. It concludes with reflections on the podcast and the continuous evolution of generations.
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Robb:
And welcome to another show of Don't Get This Twisted. I am Rob along with my hookahs. As always, Tina, how you doing, Tina?
Tina m Garcia:
I'm good Rob, how you doing?
Robb:
Absolutely pleasant today.
Tina m Garcia:
It's a nice Sunday morning.
Robb:
Yes it is. I made a mistake right there. I was like, oh man.
Tina m Garcia:
Hehehe
Robb:
So good morning
Tina m Garcia:
Good morning.
Robb:
or afternoon or evening, whenever you're listening to the show. So make sure you check out our social media, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and make sure you check us out on all those cool places like Apple and Spotify. Amazon, Google, and share the show with everyone you know all over the place. Because we're
Tina m Garcia:
Follow
Robb:
still
Tina m Garcia:
and subscribe.
Robb:
following, subscribing. And we've got a lot of Europe now.
Tina m Garcia:
Yeah?
Robb:
A lot of Europe, yeah. Someone in France has been listening.
Tina m Garcia:
Nice.
Robb:
So that's kind of, yeah, it's kind of interesting. I was like, oh, all right. And then someone in Australia's back.
Tina m Garcia:
Whoa.
Robb:
So yeah, Australia kind of fell off for a little while. So, but not. Not so much anymore. We got pretty much all of, a lot of Europe, or at least Western Europe. But
Tina m Garcia:
Okay.
Robb:
yeah. And then I think we had like, some on the other day, Brazil. Yeah,
Tina m Garcia:
Mm.
Robb:
some people in Brazil.
Tina m Garcia:
Nice.
Robb:
Anyway, so we were kinda talking off the air before we came on here and we were talking like, generations and which one's the best. So.
Tina m Garcia:
Hehehe
Robb:
And of course we're gonna say us because we're Gen Z and we kind of are like
Tina m Garcia:
We're Gen X.
Robb:
Or Gen X. That's right. I'm sorry.
Tina m Garcia:
Yeah.
Robb:
Gen Z is the one we were talking about that isn't is is
Tina m Garcia:
Isn't our favorite?
Robb:
to:Tina m Garcia:
Mm-hmm.
Robb:
So that definitely throws us inside that That ballpark, you know, I find it interesting with how, because we like to rib, obviously, millennials and Generation Z, but we're kind of the fault of those. Not us per se, but our generation, because they're the parents of these, you know, wacko ideas. So I'm not sure where it went off the rail.
Tina m Garcia:
The computer generation, that's where it went off the rail.
Robb:
Probably, I think, you know, we've talked many times about how we think social media is the downfall, which
Tina m Garcia:
Mm-hmm.
Robb:
is probably true because we had, let's see, the early, the early, our early 20s, we had AOL. Right, our early
Tina m Garcia:
Yeah.
Robb:
20s maybe?
Tina m Garcia:
Yeah.
Robb:
Like 20, yeah,
Tina m Garcia:
But
Robb:
like
Tina m Garcia:
we
Robb:
20.
Tina m Garcia:
also had dial up Internet.
Robb:
Yeah, but I think we were the ones behind like the first chat rooms.
Tina m Garcia:
Right?
Robb:
So, but somewhere along the line, like it was still controllable and it wasn't like, I don't think it was out of context much. It was pretty straightforward stuff. You were in those rooms to either. talk about whatever, because usually those chat rooms had a label, right? Like if you wanted to talk whatever pop culture or if you were talking about 80s music or whatever.
Tina m Garcia:
Yeah, but really those chat rooms were all just picking up on people and...
Robb:
I think that it was both. Yes, I think that there was something along that lines of getting in there
Tina m Garcia:
Mm-hmm.
Robb:
and obviously meeting people or being able to check someone's profile. So I think we were in the early parts of that. And then came... I think MySpace is the one that kind of opened that whole thing up,
Tina m Garcia:
Mm-hmm.
Robb:
st,:Tina m Garcia:
Mm-hmm.
Robb:
maybe a little bit later.
Tina m Garcia:
I remember I didn't get my first computer until I was 24
Robb:
I can't I don't even remember when it was mine was later than that probably
Tina m Garcia:
I remember I was 24, I didn't know shit about it. One of my friends from El Paso came over, set me up with an email. It's the only email that I still have to this day.
Robb:
That's funny.
Tina m Garcia:
And yeah, just wasn't, the computer thing in me, I mean, I'm cool with it, I'm on my phone a lot and stuff, but I'd rather see people
Robb:
Yeah,
Tina m Garcia:
than talk to them on a computer.
Robb:
but I think that goes back to our generation, right?
Tina m Garcia:
Right, yeah.
Robb:
Because we were, since we were the least of the computer age, mostly growing up, right? So we didn't have any kind of technology like that growing up with the exception of a home phone.
Tina m Garcia:
Mm-hmm.
Robb:
So, you know, we were the last generation to really like run the streets at night,
Tina m Garcia:
Yeah,
Robb:
you know, right?
Tina m Garcia:
up until past our teens, we had to physically go and see people in
Robb:
Mm-hmm.
Tina m Garcia:
order to communicate with them unless it was a phone. But
Robb:
Right,
Tina m Garcia:
if you
Robb:
but...
Tina m Garcia:
wanted to meet new people, you went to the mall or you went to the roller rink or you went,
Robb:
football game, high
Tina m Garcia:
yeah,
Robb:
school
Tina m Garcia:
football
Robb:
football
Tina m Garcia:
games
Robb:
game.
Tina m Garcia:
somewhere where you could go dance. We had to get up and go.
Robb:
Yeah, and I think
Tina m Garcia:
And
Robb:
it
Tina m Garcia:
I'm
Robb:
was,
Tina m Garcia:
glad
Robb:
okay.
Tina m Garcia:
we, I'm sorry, I'm glad we didn't have a camera either because my mom would have killed me
Robb:
No,
Tina m Garcia:
back
Robb:
I mean,
Tina m Garcia:
in the day.
Robb:
even the cameras that we did have, you know, you had to take it somewhere to get
Tina m Garcia:
Mm-hmm.
Robb:
it developed. So you couldn't go absolutely ape shit.
Tina m Garcia:
Exactly.
Robb:
So now you can just go ape shit. But for me, I think, you know, with us, we are the last ones to like really, really ride bikes everywhere.
Tina m Garcia:
Mm-hmm or
Robb:
You know,
Tina m Garcia:
skateboards
Robb:
I'm... or skateboards, I mean it exists, because I see it around my neighborhood, but it's not as prevalent as it was when we were, I mean, you have younger, you know, or late teens now just taking Ubers,
Tina m Garcia:
Mm-hmm.
Robb:
right? So it's.
Tina m Garcia:
I know people actually Will be sitting in my chair and be like, oh, hold on. I got to get my son an uber like what the hell Let him get his own uber. Why are
Robb:
Mm-hmm.
Tina m Garcia:
you? Why are you setting this up and the kid was 23? I'm like tell him to get his license
Robb:
Yeah, that's a tad much. I mean, if you're in
Tina m Garcia:
You
Robb:
your
Tina m Garcia:
let them smoke
Robb:
20s.
Tina m Garcia:
weed in your house, but you won't tell them to get a license.
Robb:
Right.
Tina m Garcia:
Someone's not right there.
Robb:
Well, yes. But where did that go wrong?
Tina m Garcia:
I don't know,
Robb:
Right?
Tina m Garcia:
we started giving trophies to kids that didn't participate.
Robb:
That's a whole other thing. Yeah and
Tina m Garcia:
You know, when you
Robb:
it's
Tina m Garcia:
tell the kids that they're special in every way and they stand out and everything is a challenge rather than an issue or anything like, we're setting them up for failure first of all, because life doesn't work like that. Not everything looks the same even when you have rose colored glasses on. And I think that we did a disservice by telling the kids they could have whatever, whenever, and however they wanted it, and it was our job to just serve them. I think that was the dumbest thing I've ever seen society do for their children.
Robb:
silent generation That's from:Tina m Garcia:
Mm-hmm.
Robb:
, that is the group starts in:Tina m Garcia:
Mm-hmm.
Robb:
understands the importance of both. We're resourceful, logical, and good problem solvers. Then there would be
Tina m Garcia:
Yeah.
Robb:
millennials, that would be Generation Y. They're often described as lazy in the media and that they spend all their money they should be saving for a house on avocado toast.
Tina m Garcia:
Hehehe
Robb:
But they're also the first generation
Tina m Garcia:
Hehehe
Robb:
generation starts. They think:Tina m Garcia:
intelligence plays
Robb:
they're ambitious digital natives and confident that they are. But I think
Tina m Garcia:
They're
Robb:
there's
Tina m Garcia:
cocky,
Robb:
issues.
Tina m Garcia:
I wouldn't say they're confident.
Robb:
Yeah, I think that they're kind of in a weird, in a weird, yeah,
Tina m Garcia:
Headspace.
Robb:
and they just think, I'll give you an example. My kid is at the airport, and he already had an hour layover. Then they come to everyone on the loudspeaker, and they're like, yep, it's two more hours layover. And he texts
Tina m Garcia:
Hmm.
Robb:
me and he's like, it's gonna be two more hours. He goes, this is sucks because I don't understand why this happens. And you know, this is horrible. And I was like, welcome to traveling. Like,
Tina m Garcia:
Mm-hmm.
Robb:
does it suck? Yep. Horribly. But what are you gonna do?
Tina m Garcia:
Do you kind of gotta expect it? I think you do.
Robb:
Yeah, it's funny because I was telling him, because he'll be 21 in December. And I was like, things change after you're 21, because like, if you're in an airport and it's sucky, just go to a bar,
Tina m Garcia:
Mm-hmm
Robb:
right? They have a TV on, there's something, you can order a drink, you can do whatever you need to do to relax yourself where you're not having to sit at the gate and wait
Tina m Garcia:
I hate
Robb:
and
Tina m Garcia:
that.
Robb:
wait and wait and wait. Mostly when you know. They're like, look, this shit ain't taken off for another two hours, just here we go. And he's like, oh yeah. And I go, if you're lucky, you can find a food court and at least sit at the food court because usually all the places are, it's like a mall. So you're really not sitting at the restaurant. But, and I said, eh, or you can find a restaurant. But he was more just so disappointed that. that he's like, I don't understand why this happens. And I was like, because you think everything's just supposed to happen. Like it just, and I go, that's not how life
Tina m Garcia:
Mm-hmm.
Robb:
is.
Tina m Garcia:
This
Robb:
Life.
Tina m Garcia:
is what happens when you leave your bedroom and put down the computer games and live real life shit happens.
Robb:
Yeah, it's like this is, and he kind of knows it because of like traffic. You know,
Tina m Garcia:
Mm-hmm.
Robb:
he has a car, so he understands like the reality of traffic is real. Like, and then that's kind of how I was trying to tell him about how airports are. I go, there could be a storm somewhere in the middle of the country where your airplane is coming and now they have to divert around
Tina m Garcia:
Mm-hmm.
Robb:
this thing, which is just traffic for them. I'm like, don't? And I go, it sucks, but you're not, no one's waiting for you at the airport. The airport's only 15 minutes away from home. I'm gonna come get you. You know, it's not like, there's things around that. Does it suck? Yes, but to think like, I don't understand this, or that's stupid. It's like, it's not stupid. That's just the reality of life. And I think that the generations after us, we're a little more hardened to the fact of like, things, shit happens. Like we were always out and
Tina m Garcia:
Yeah.
Robb:
about where. where people got hurt riding their bike and you had to ride home with your fucking broken wrist or bumps
Tina m Garcia:
My
Robb:
and
Tina m Garcia:
brother
Robb:
bruises.
Tina m Garcia:
did that a couple times.
Robb:
Yeah, and you get home, but today, if someone falls and gets hurt, people don't even know how to help someone anymore.
Tina m Garcia:
Mm-hmm.
Robb:
It's like if they can't
Tina m Garcia:
Get out
Robb:
call,
Tina m Garcia:
your phone and film it. Yeah.
Robb:
yeah, that's, oh, geez. I
Tina m Garcia:
Get
Robb:
mean,
Tina m Garcia:
out your phone
Robb:
that's a
Tina m Garcia:
and
Robb:
huge
Tina m Garcia:
film it.
Robb:
problem.
Tina m Garcia:
Mm-hmm.
Robb:
And that's anyone born after:Tina m Garcia:
Hmm
Robb:
Yeah.
Tina m Garcia:
that'll be interesting to see what they turn into because of who they're being raised by it'll
Robb:
Yeah,
Tina m Garcia:
be interesting
Robb:
I think, I mean, obviously some of the Gen-Xers just went soft and millennials are definitely, they're the ones who are gonna teach these people that everything should be fair and you know, everyone thinks that now, at least that generation, I would say the early 30s to mid 20s is like, well, if we don't like it, we'll just protest and it'll go away.
Tina m Garcia:
Hmm.
Robb:
And it's funny, because my son was talking about that one time and he goes, yeah, protests don't do shit. He goes, protests are just a waste of time. And
Tina m Garcia:
I agree with that.
Robb:
he goes, because they never do anything. Protests don't do shit. He goes, they haven't done shit since the Civil Rights Movement in the 60s. And I was like, yeah, pretty much. He goes, it just makes people angry. and then they end up burning buildings to the ground for no reason.
Tina m Garcia:
Right? They don't just protest. They're burning shit up and
Robb:
Yeah.
Tina m Garcia:
acting like fools and hurting each other. And it's crazy.
Robb:
And I think that it just escalates. Because now they think that if they don't get their way, that they can just go and start throwing bricks through windows.
Tina m Garcia:
Right?
Robb:
The civil rights movements of the 60s, and I would say even pseudo-Vietnam protests, they were sit-ins. These were people that just sat down and tried to make statements out loud. And obviously the civil rights movement's a little different because they had marches and they did try, and obviously they did change things. The civil rights
Tina m Garcia:
Mm-hmm.
Robb:
movement of the 60s was massive, which is probably the most dominant part of the expansion of race relations ever. I think
Tina m Garcia:
But
Robb:
we're
Tina m Garcia:
they
Robb:
going.
Tina m Garcia:
also stood for real things that were going on. They were against war. They were against
Robb:
racism.
Tina m Garcia:
racism. They were against actual things. What people are fighting for now is ridiculous. From
Robb:
Yeah.
Tina m Garcia:
reparations to they're allowed to use the same restrooms and stuff, it's like, come on now. This isn't worth the protest. There's parts that we need to change for sure, but protesting, and what are you protesting? Because nothing's gonna change.
Robb:
Yeah, well, and most people, like go on YouTube and look up some of these protests that, like I watch a lot of pro-gun things. So these guys go to these gun marches, these anti-gun things, and they start asking people questions. They don't even know why they're there.
Tina m Garcia:
Mm-hmm.
Robb:
They don't even know what half of these things are. Like they'll go, what is an AR-15? And they're like, uh. It's like you're out here protesting just to fucking do it. instead of really knowing the issues. Like people, obviously the civil rights movement, but even people during Vietnam, when they interviewed these hippies during Vietnam, they knew,
Tina m Garcia:
They knew.
Robb:
they knew
Tina m Garcia:
And they
Robb:
what
Tina m Garcia:
weren't
Robb:
they were
Tina m Garcia:
protesting
Robb:
there.
Tina m Garcia:
against not having their safety. They were protesting for human rights. That's what they
Robb:
Yeah.
Tina m Garcia:
were protesting for. It wasn't like, oh, well, that gun's scary. No. Or we got
Robb:
Right.
Tina m Garcia:
to take it away because people don't know how to act. Well, people don't know how to act because enough of us haven't shown them that we're all doing all right.
Robb:
Mm-hmm. I agree.
Tina m Garcia:
I think that that's. the things that people have a problem with right now are ridiculous.
Robb:
Yeah, and I think that look there's art our Generation obviously are protesting in these marches as well now. So to say that it's not us. I definitely would say that there are Because most of them are done by the liberal movement, which is what it is
Tina m Garcia:
Mm-hmm.
Robb:
But I think that I think part of the problem too is we were We were raised and taught by people who weren't so leaning either direction. Like our teachers, I think, were more middle grounders. So
Tina m Garcia:
by far.
Robb:
they wanted us to be free thinkers. And if you turned out being liberal or you turned out being conservative, however you were raised, they were okay with it. Now, and I love arguing with people about it, that they're like, oh, they're not pushing that. They are. If you don't think that they're pushing a more liberal movement, ask anyone who's in college right now. It's
Tina m Garcia:
Yeah.
Robb:
absurd. I would never want my kid to go to college now. Go to a trade school. Learn something with your hands. Learn how to do something. Because I think now you become, you're being indoctrinated. You go in one way and come out another. So I think the baby boomers of our parents, that's why a lot of us came out and how we are today. We're a little more rigid. We're a little more fuck off. We're a little more leave us alone.
Tina m Garcia:
We didn't have somebody hovering over us all day every day.
Robb:
No, well because most of them couldn't. They were
Tina m Garcia:
Mm-hmm.
Robb:
working.
Tina m Garcia:
You're working.
Robb:
They
Tina m Garcia:
Yeah
Robb:
were making a living. And I think most of our generation think that way as well. We're like, go out and get a job. Make sure you have a roof over your head. Make sure to do this.
Tina m Garcia:
Make your life happen. Period.
Robb:
The modern person, and I'll say, I'm not sure about millennials, both the millennials I know that are close to me, my daughters, they're functioning members of society. but one also joined the military. So there is that, I think there's something to that. And mom, and their mom, a hard worker, and does that type of thing. So I think they're just a product of their upbringing.
Tina m Garcia:
Mm-hmm
Robb:
But I think the later millennials and Gen Z, There, they just think that they should be handed everything.
Tina m Garcia:
Mm-hmm
Robb:
They'll quit a job in like a week.
Tina m Garcia:
Mm-hmm.
Robb:
They'll get a job, they'll work, all these things, get in and take tests and do a drug test and do this, and then a week in go, yeah, they don't wanna do this for me, so I'm gonna quit. It's like.
Tina m Garcia:
They don't talk right to me.
Robb:
Yeah, oh, that's, yes, that's one of the bigger things. Yeah,
Tina m Garcia:
Yeah.
Robb:
they're mean to me. They're being mean. Or they're making me do this. It's like, uh, okay. What else are you gonna do? They're like, well, I'm just gonna get another job. Well, there's no work. So now you're in this repetitive thing or they're just like, well, I'll get an employment. And I'm
Tina m Garcia:
Mm-hmm.
Robb:
like, Yeah, but it doesn't last forever. And then unemployment runs out, and then what do they do? They're like, now what am I going to do? I can't pay my bill,
Tina m Garcia:
And
Robb:
or
Tina m Garcia:
unemployment
Robb:
I can't do this.
Tina m Garcia:
doesn't pay for shit if you're only working part time to begin with.
Robb:
Correct, well I mean if you're at home, which a lot of these people still are, that
Tina m Garcia:
Yeah.
Robb:
I mean there's 30 year old children still at home
Tina m Garcia:
Mm-hmm.
Robb:
because they've never got out of that vicious cycle of trying to work the easy job or trying to be like I wanna work the job I wanna work. It's like, some of us don't work in the job we want to, but it makes us a living.
Tina m Garcia:
Mm-hmm.
Robb:
You know, I mean. I like my job. I can't come out and say like, like, oh, I hate my job, because I don't hate my job. Would I like to do something else? Of course.
Tina m Garcia:
Is
Robb:
But
Tina m Garcia:
it your
Robb:
I'm,
Tina m Garcia:
dream job?
Robb:
oh, no way,
Tina m Garcia:
We'll
Robb:
not even.
Tina m Garcia:
see, that's the thing, but you still do what you gotta do, because
Robb:
But
Tina m Garcia:
you have to make a
Robb:
yeah,
Tina m Garcia:
living.
Robb:
I like my job. There you go. And I do quite well.
Tina m Garcia:
Mm-hmm.
Robb:
So that makes it a little bit better.
Tina m Garcia:
Mm-hmm.
Robb:
You know, when you have a solid income that you know you can live on, and I mean, if and when my kid leaves and I stay at the employment I'm in now, I will live like a king.
Tina m Garcia:
Mm-hmm.
Robb:
Because I won't have, I'll have. half the power being used, half the water. If I wanted to stay in a two bedroom and put our studio in this room and less money for food and blah, blah, blah. So I will live like a king or better, but I also know that I still have to keep this job. So even as much as you might not like it, you have to buck up. And I think that the newer generations just don't have the balls anymore. Everyone just quits and think that it's okay, I'll just do this or I'll do that. It's like, that's not how it works, man. And it's too bad that our generation, we were taught to work hard. We were taught as soon as you get out of high school, you either go to college or get a job, period. There was no like. Oh, you can sit around the house and live off of me for two years. It's like,
Tina m Garcia:
Mm-hmm.
Robb:
mm-mm. And the flip side of I think that is, even if we were gonna stay a year and not work, you were expected to work at home. You were expected to do the laundry, expected to do the dishes, clean the house, pick up the dog
Tina m Garcia:
yard
Robb:
poop in
Tina m Garcia:
work,
Robb:
the yard,
Tina m Garcia:
all
Robb:
whatever
Tina m Garcia:
of it.
Robb:
it was, because you had to give back to the house. And, um. So I think there's something to that.
Tina m Garcia:
We also had keys to get into our house because our parents were working. So we didn't have somebody there when we got home every day that was taking care of us and feeding us and everything. We had
Robb:
Mm
Tina m Garcia:
to
Robb:
hmm.
Tina m Garcia:
learn to do that ourselves.
Robb:
We were latchkey kids.
Tina m Garcia:
Yeah. I wasn't really a latchkey kid. I mean, we had to come home sometimes, and our parents weren't there, but that was the exception, not the rule. But a lot of my friends were like that. A
Robb:
Oh,
Tina m Garcia:
lot of my
Robb:
I was.
Tina m Garcia:
friends, the neighbors across the street, the kids used to have to sit outside for an hour because the parents left early, and they didn't trust them in the house. So they had to sit in their backyard for an hour, come rain, shine, it could be freezing, windy, it didn't matter. They had to sit in the house, or sit in the backyard for an hour before they could walk to school.
Robb:
Yeah, that's bonkers.
Tina m Garcia:
Yeah.
Robb:
Yeah,
Tina m Garcia:
But
Robb:
I had a key.
Tina m Garcia:
you don't hear that now, that's abuse.
Robb:
I had a key
Tina m Garcia:
Yeah.
Robb:
around my neck, that's how I remembered.
Tina m Garcia:
Yeah.
Robb:
Because I was always afraid I might drop my key or lose it at school or whatever, so I wore it around my neck. But I came home every single day to an empty apartment because
Tina m Garcia:
Mm-hmm.
Robb:
my dad worked until four o'clock. So I didn't have an option. It was either that or... I could have stayed down the street at my best friend's house, I'm sure, but he did the exact same thing. So it wasn't
Tina m Garcia:
Mm-hmm.
Robb:
like, there's no one home. Everyone was at work. So,
Tina m Garcia:
Yeah.
Robb:
um, my kid, he, he kind of lived like that cause I was a single dad. So he would come, when he was really small, he had someone pick him up from school and stayed at over at her house until I got off work. Um, but once he was, you know, late elementary, he walked home. and had a key to the house, walked in the door. He just, that's just how, and you gauged it on, I gauged it on trust and what I thought he could do. I mean, I could have kept
Tina m Garcia:
in
Robb:
him
Tina m Garcia:
his
Robb:
in the
Tina m Garcia:
maturity
Robb:
afterschool programs.
Tina m Garcia:
level.
Robb:
Sure, he
Tina m Garcia:
Yeah.
Robb:
matured quick, unfortunately. I mean, he had to, you know, I just talked to him not too long ago about that, about like, I even kind of said sorry to him. I'm like, you know, sorry you had to grow up so fast, because. I felt like I pushed him to be more adult because it was just me and him. And it was funny because he took it a different way. He was just like, look, you had to do what you had to do and I think I'm better off now because
Tina m Garcia:
I agree.
Robb:
he's way more mature than, when he graduated, he was bored. He was like, these people are, they don't have any of the same interests as me. Like, we're not the same because. they're still, like he was pushing, he wanted a car. Soon as he could get a car and he was 18
Tina m Garcia:
Nice.
Robb:
years old, well he was 18, he waited because he didn't want that, he didn't want the provisionary period, he didn't want to
Tina m Garcia:
Mm.
Robb:
have to, because when he turned 18 was in December, he kind of gauged it and he did what he needed to do and he was like, but as soon as he turned 18, he was like, cool, I want to take my test, I want to get my license, because he understood freedom. Like,
Tina m Garcia:
Yes.
Robb:
you know. He loves to be able to just walk out, get in a car, go pick up food, go hang out with his friends, wherever it is they are gonna hang out at. He understands that freedom and it's weird now that the newer generation aren't like that.
Tina m Garcia:
I know my nephew is driving age and I was like, come on, let's go. Let's go drive. Let's let's get your license. He's like, uh, I gotta get my permit first. And I'm like, why don't you have that? What
Robb:
Right.
Tina m Garcia:
are you doing?
Robb:
What are you waiting
Tina m Garcia:
Like I was
Robb:
for?
Tina m Garcia:
15 and a half going, please kind of drive, please kind of drive, please kind of
Robb:
Mm-hmm.
Tina m Garcia:
drive, please kind of drive. I couldn't. I couldn't wait. I was one of the first ones to get my license. I drove everybody around. I made sure that I was just, I wanted to be out. I couldn't
Robb:
Mm-hmm.
Tina m Garcia:
imagine not being out. Couldn't
Robb:
Yeah,
Tina m Garcia:
imagine.
Robb:
I think, you know, obviously, because we were, you know, I hate to use the born to be free, but we had bicycles that we could, like our parents didn't understand on a summer day, we might ride four miles away from home, five
Tina m Garcia:
Mm-hmm.
Robb:
miles away from home. Like we would go. we'd go way, way up Balboa, up into the, like those parks up there and into the ditches and into the, the washes and ride our bikes and you know, collect frogs or whatever the fuck we were doing. My dad had no idea. He just knew that when he got home, I was there.
Tina m Garcia:
Are you there and was your chores done?
Robb:
Yeah. And my dad was even so cool that like he understood that because he was off at four He got home by like 430 my thing. My dad was just like be home by 5 for dinner So like I would roll in at like 450 Covered in mud like whatever the hell happened that day. He's like hey. Hey, what's going on? And I would eat dinner hang out for a little bit and I'd head right back out so I could hang out until
Tina m Garcia:
Mm-hmm.
Robb:
until
Tina m Garcia:
Till
Robb:
the
Tina m Garcia:
the
Robb:
lights
Tina m Garcia:
lights
Robb:
came
Tina m Garcia:
came
Robb:
on
Tina m Garcia:
on.
Robb:
And then once I got older, it was, you can go out until this time. And then
Tina m Garcia:
Mm-hmm.
Robb:
you were always like, hey, can we kind of stay out an extra
Tina m Garcia:
A
Robb:
half
Tina m Garcia:
little
Robb:
an
Tina m Garcia:
bit
Robb:
hour?
Tina m Garcia:
longer, yeah.
Robb:
Just an extra, like we're home, we're all back, but we're gonna be over at his house on the corner, or we're gonna be throwing the ball in the front yard, like I'll be right there. But now, like my son barely leaves the house, because all his friends are digital. So it's a weird thing. Like. I don't know, I feel that the newer age children are gonna be so socially inept. And I think that's why they have these issues with jobs. Because nobody talks. They don't know
Tina m Garcia:
Right.
Robb:
how to communicate like this way. Like they can only do it over a camera. They can only do it over a phone. Everything's
Tina m Garcia:
Well,
Robb:
text.
Tina m Garcia:
when they're sitting together and they're... We threw a huge 50th birthday party for my brother. And I went into the house where all the kids were in the house. That I didn't understand either because we
Robb:
Mm-hmm.
Tina m Garcia:
sure as hell weren't.
Robb:
Oh, no.
Tina m Garcia:
So the house was just full of all these overgrown kids, like laying on the furniture. And all of them were on their phones. And I'm like, what are you guys doing here? One giggle and then one over here would giggle. And then it went back and forth. I'm like, you guys are texting each other. What the
Robb:
Yeah.
Tina m Garcia:
hell? You're in the same room. I
Robb:
Mm-hmm.
Tina m Garcia:
and I was like. I even said, I'm like, what happened to the days of spin the bottle in three minutes in heaven? Because if we were together, that's the shit that was going on.
Robb:
Yeah, for sure. And, and then we were taught to communicate with older people.
Tina m Garcia:
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Robb:
Like if I would, I, we used to go to my uncle's house and barbecue. So both my uncles would be there. My dad, me, and then my four cousins would all be there. I couldn't walk through the front entryway without First, getting hammered on by my uncles. They would talk mass shit,
Tina m Garcia:
Mm-hmm.
Robb:
massive shit. And then my aunts would be behind them going, leave them alone, like blah, blah, blah. And then I'd go in and see my cousins and try to disappear. And then we would do whatever to try to stay out of, but I had to at least go say hi to my uncles. And then... As I got older into my teens, I would go and sit out in the living room and listen to him and chime in.
Tina m Garcia:
Mm-hmm.
Robb:
Because we were taught to communicate. And now, thankfully, my kid's like that. My kid will talk your ear off. If he's in that situation, he doesn't have a problem communicating. So his, and I just think that's growing up around me and in locker rooms and where they made you talk. Like, wrestlers, he would be hanging out while I was wrestling. So they would all talk
Tina m Garcia:
Mm-hmm.
Robb:
to him like he was not a little child. So
Tina m Garcia:
Mm-hmm.
Robb:
I think there he's good and I'm glad that he's ahead of the curve on the communication thing. But most of his friends, when they would come over, they're like, it's like church mice. I just didn't understand that. So I tried to make them all talk. Every single one of his friends.
Tina m Garcia:
I'm the same way. I force it out of everybody.
Robb:
Mm-hmm.
Tina m Garcia:
Oh, I've been doing that since before. This generation was even born, though. But yeah, I need people to talk to me. I need interaction. I need to know what's going on in people's heads. I don't know why. It's just I like to. I like to know people. I like to hear stories.
Robb:
We're the social generation though.
Tina m Garcia:
Mm-hmm, absolutely.
Robb:
I remember going out on a weekend night with my friends because before I had a car. So you always had the one friend who had the car, right?
Tina m Garcia:
Mm-hmm.
Robb:
So
Tina m Garcia:
Mm-hmm.
Robb:
I remember all of us getting into a car and driving over, I don't even know what it is anymore, but it was at Bob's Big Boy over on Zelza and Devonshire maybe? I want to say it was there. Anyway,
Tina m Garcia:
Mm-hmm
Robb:
I remember like going and hanging out at a Bob's Big Boy or a Denny's, and just sitting and bullshitting. So everyone would order something so they wouldn't kick us out, right? And then we would just bullshit. And then other groups of people from the rival high school, because we were more on that side of the world than we were over by where we went to school.
Tina m Garcia:
Mm-hmm.
Robb:
we'd mix in with them people and we'd see the girls from that school and all the guys would be like, heads up and like trying to bullshit with each other. I don't know how they do it now. Like my son enjoyed going to football games. And I think, and he didn't like football. I mean, he, you know what I mean? Like he went, cause he understood it was a social event.
Tina m Garcia:
Mm-hmm.
Robb:
Like he knew that like you go there cause you wanna see the girls in the school and talk with your friends and bullshit. So when COVID happened, he was like bummed out of his mind. He was like, oh, this sucks. Like we can't go and do this anymore.
Tina m Garcia:
Mm-hmm
Robb:
So this newer generation obviously go to football games, but I bet you everyone must have their nos and their phone. It must be a very weird, different kind of high school
Tina m Garcia:
Well,
Robb:
experience.
Tina m Garcia:
yeah, because they could text. I don't think going to the football games, because I've, I went to all of them from the time I was in the seventh grade till, uh, I think the first year out of high school. I always went to the football games and you couldn't hear the damn phone if you wanted to. They're so
Robb:
Oh
Tina m Garcia:
loud,
Robb:
no, they were
Tina m Garcia:
but
Robb:
loud.
Tina m Garcia:
they are, they could text, they could text, you know, and then that's even less of a connection because they're not even hearing any interaction. It's
Robb:
Mm-mm.
Tina m Garcia:
just towards the pop up on screen. So they're really kind of detached.
Robb:
I agree and I think the text message generation, even though we're part of it, it's so easy to get things out of turn. Because
Tina m Garcia:
Oh yeah!
Robb:
extremely easy, to the point where it can ruin conversations and then you have to end up picking up the phone and going, that's not what I fucking meant.
Tina m Garcia:
You're
Robb:
This
Tina m Garcia:
like,
Robb:
is
Tina m Garcia:
whoa,
Robb:
what I meant.
Tina m Garcia:
whoa, whoa.
Robb:
Yeah. And you're like, and then, so you might as well end up just calling each other and
Tina m Garcia:
Yeah.
Robb:
telling each other anyway. So then there's no, because there's no inflection, right? There's no
Tina m Garcia:
Mm-hmm.
Robb:
tone, there's no, it's just words. And words can be taken so many different ways.
Tina m Garcia:
Well, and just changing punctuation, because nobody punctuates anything in a text. So man, does that leave a lot up for interpretation.
Robb:
Oh yeah.
Tina m Garcia:
And then when that happens, I'm picking up the phone, I'm like, clearly we need to be talking because I'm not catching what you're trying
Robb:
Yeah,
Tina m Garcia:
to get over.
Robb:
you're like what the hell were you talking about and and
Tina m Garcia:
Yeah,
Robb:
then they
Tina m Garcia:
right?
Robb:
and then people end up going what do you mean? Think well, this is what she wrote. They're like, yeah, that's what I meant and they're like, oh
Tina m Garcia:
And then the damn typos or the auto correct and everything changes what you say anyway. So you really got to watch it. And if you're in a feverish, uh, texting conversation, that could go bad really quick.
Robb:
Really quick, I saw a meme the other day, it says, a 45 minute argument texting is like you just running in a circle for 45 minutes.
Tina m Garcia:
Mm-hmm.
Robb:
Like just spinning around, and that's what you'll do. Arguments are the worst. Text message argument, ugh. I'd rather you call me, yell at me. It's much easier.
Tina m Garcia:
Yes, and shorter. Takes less time out of your
Robb:
Yeah,
Tina m Garcia:
day. Heh.
Robb:
yeah, yeah. And serious conversations. over text, which, look, sometimes we have to because you're at work and you're trying to keep the doors open of communication between people, but you don't want to get in trouble.
Tina m Garcia:
Mm-hmm.
Robb:
I mean, I've had long, like hours long texts with people, just trying to like, you know, either find out what's in their head or, you know. try to help them out with a situation, whatever that thing is. But I would much rather, I'd rather do it over FaceTime than I would
Tina m Garcia:
Yeah,
Robb:
over text message because
Tina m Garcia:
I
Robb:
at
Tina m Garcia:
kind
Robb:
least
Tina m Garcia:
of
Robb:
there's
Tina m Garcia:
like
Robb:
inflection.
Tina m Garcia:
FaceTime because you could see people's face. I like that.
Robb:
Uh huh.
Tina m Garcia:
It when when my friends from out of state call and they FaceTime, I feel like I'm there with them.
Robb:
Mm-hmm, I
Tina m Garcia:
But
Robb:
agree.
Tina m Garcia:
when I'm just talking to them or texting, I still feel close because we've we've been doing this for so long. But I feel like I'm missing something, you know, that the interaction isn't quite there. But if I see their face that I'm a little bit better with it.
Robb:
I agree. I had a conversation with somebody one time and she was in her house and kind of walking around, blah, blah, blah. And I remember her walking down the hallway and sitting on her kid's floor. And there was a bunk bed behind her at the time. And just having this like very, very serious conversation. And it was, and it was the first time that I felt like, not the first time, but I felt so close because like she was very serious at the time. really going, we're talking emotional stuff, and both of us were. And, you know, obviously I was hours away, so I couldn't be there. But that was the first, like, FaceTime where I felt like, okay, this is why the medium works.
Tina m Garcia:
Mm-hmm.
Robb:
Because I couldn't have, I wouldn't have got the same feeling from texting the same words I said. It just wouldn't have worked. So, no, it's okay.
Tina m Garcia:
You know, I'm sorry, go ahead. What I would have liked is, like right out of high school was a desert storm. And a lot of my friends went off to war. And I remember getting calls. from a couple of the guys that went. They were on a tarmac in the Middle East somewhere. They didn't know where, they couldn't tell you where. It was dark as night, but they... they needed home, you know, so they, uh, they called and they, they would talk to me and they couldn't tell me where they were. I couldn't see their faces, but at least I could hear them. But it was amazing when talking on a, on a phone, you hear people's emotions through
Robb:
Hmm.
Tina m Garcia:
their voices.
Robb:
Oh yeah.
Tina m Garcia:
And I remember thinking, God, I wish I could see their face because they're saying they're okay, but they're not okay. You know what I mean? You're calling me from a dark place and you can't put light on. Cause if you do, to get like bombarded with with you know people trying to kill you and and you don't know if you're coming home and you don't know where you are and I just remember I wish I wish then we had had FaceTime for sure
Robb:
Yeah.
Tina m Garcia:
because it just to be able to see them was would have been so much better but at least I heard them but it still wouldn't for me it didn't satisfy me it just made me feel more lonely you know with them like here's my friends and i can't see them i can't help them i don't know where they are there's no you know there's no interaction other than this phone when and if they call
Robb:
Mm-hmm.
Tina m Garcia:
and that's if nobody's on the phone and or caller id is isn't you know backed up or or you know your parents are talking to somebody and they just won't transfer the call because they don't care it's their phone i yeah We communicating, we did a lot more of it, but it was harder to communicate with people unless they were with us.
Robb:
Correct, I think our generation had a much harder time communicating once you got far away, because
Tina m Garcia:
Mm-hmm.
Robb:
we had to deal with long distance charges, phone calls were a lot different. Like I had
Tina m Garcia:
snail
Robb:
had,
Tina m Garcia:
mail.
Robb:
oh snail mail, well I would send letters to a girl that I dated in New York.
Tina m Garcia:
Yeah,
Robb:
You know, and.
Tina m Garcia:
I sent letters to everybody. I used to love to write letters to them.
Robb:
And I think that like, and I would talk to that girl every blue moon, but it was so expensive to call. Like now it's just, you just FaceTime somebody and it's instantaneous. You know, like I would talk to my mom over video chat and I think it was one of those things where for their generation, it was like Dick Tracy shit. My dad was like, an iPhone is like. The doing FaceTime was what Dick Tracy had on his watch. Like that was sci-fi
Tina m Garcia:
Yeah,
Robb:
shit.
Tina m Garcia:
yeah, even now the watch is like, sometimes I can't find my phone in time and so I hit the button to talk to somebody through
Robb:
Huh.
Tina m Garcia:
my
Robb:
Yeah.
Tina m Garcia:
watch and
Robb:
And you're
Tina m Garcia:
I
Robb:
talking
Tina m Garcia:
still
Robb:
into
Tina m Garcia:
think
Robb:
your phone.
Tina m Garcia:
this is so freaking weird. Like
Robb:
Yeah.
Tina m Garcia:
I'm talking into my, you know, my wrist. Mm-hmm. So, I'm gonna go ahead and turn off the lights and
Robb:
Yeah,
Tina m Garcia:
I'm gonna go ahead
Robb:
it's
Tina m Garcia:
and turn on the lights
Robb:
and and that was sci-fi. So like I think for the baby boomer generation Just imagine what they've seen They've
Tina m Garcia:
Mm-hmm.
Robb:
seen fucking everything they've seen
Tina m Garcia:
And my dad hates the phone. He just, he won't check his emails, he won't
Robb:
Oh yeah.
Tina m Garcia:
text, or he'll hardly text. I mean, I could get him to text occasionally, but he always tells everybody, hey, if you wanna call me, or if you wanna talk to me, call me.
Robb:
Mm-hmm.
Tina m Garcia:
I'm not gonna do this bullshit, you know? I don't care how many computers are in the house, I don't care who's running them or what's happening, if you wanna get a hold of me, or pick up the phone and call.
Robb:
Right.
Tina m Garcia:
And it actually pisses off people because... He should, you know, he should work all this stuff. And he's all, no, I shouldn't. I'm an old fucking man. I'm not
Robb:
Right.
Tina m Garcia:
doing it, you know?
Robb:
That's my dad.
Tina m Garcia:
Yeah. So
Robb:
Yeah.
Tina m Garcia:
I mean, I get it. I and and there's a big part of me where I'm like, I don't want to text you. If you pick up the phone and call me, like we're not having a conversation like this. However, if I'm at work and somebody needs an appointment, hey, do you got an appointment? Sure do. Here it is. You know,
Robb:
Yeah.
Tina m Garcia:
then it's really convenient. And I don't want to talk to everybody.
Robb:
Sure. Look, it's a two-way street, and I think that's why the generations have gaps, right?
Tina m Garcia:
Mm-hmm.
Robb:
There's a gap between the baby boomers and us. Like,
Tina m Garcia:
Mm-hmm.
Robb:
my dad doesn't know how to use the internet. He doesn't use a computer. He married
Tina m Garcia:
He's
Robb:
younger.
Tina m Garcia:
never listened to the podcast.
Robb:
Never listen to the podcast.
Tina m Garcia:
Yeah, my dad either.
Robb:
But he loves the innovations. Like, your dad and my dad, baby boomers, have seen everything. Man
Tina m Garcia:
Mm-hmm.
Robb:
on the moon, microwave, VCR, DVD player, CD player, digital music, television, television.
Tina m Garcia:
Mm-hmm.
Robb:
My dad remembers when there was no television.
Tina m Garcia:
Mm-hmm, so
Robb:
So
Tina m Garcia:
does mine or their
Robb:
they...
Tina m Garcia:
first TV was a little midget TV with a black and white screen
Robb:
Shit, my dad's first TV was in someone else's house.
Tina m Garcia:
Yeah.
Robb:
They would go and look
Tina m Garcia:
Yeah.
Robb:
at it through a fucking picture window in front
Tina m Garcia:
Mm-hmm.
Robb:
because no one in his town could afford a television except one family.
Tina m Garcia:
Yeah.
Robb:
But they've seen everything, the modern everything, modern cars, men in space, they've seen everything. Our generation got those inventions, shared inventions like the microwave or whatever. Plus then we got the first cell phone, the modern computer, the personal computer, right? Everyone
Tina m Garcia:
Music
Robb:
who now has
Tina m Garcia:
videos.
Robb:
music videos,
Tina m Garcia:
Yeah.
Robb:
cable television, more than five channels is our generation.
Tina m Garcia:
Mm-hmm.
Robb:
But after us, I don't think there's been these major things that have been made, right? Maybe the electric car, right?
Tina m Garcia:
Nah,
Robb:
But
Tina m Garcia:
that's
Robb:
even the
Tina m Garcia:
not
Robb:
electric
Tina m Garcia:
major.
Robb:
car, only we can afford.
Tina m Garcia:
Mm-hmm.
Robb:
Right, so the invention of that electric car is awesome, but you know, Generation X is still the only one buying them.
Tina m Garcia:
Mm-hmm
Robb:
You know, maybe millennials, because they're in their 30s, but anyone after that can't afford to buy a Tesla
Tina m Garcia:
They're
Robb:
at
Tina m Garcia:
not driving.
Robb:
80,000.
Tina m Garcia:
They're not
Robb:
Or
Tina m Garcia:
even driving.
Robb:
they're
Tina m Garcia:
They're
Robb:
not
Tina m Garcia:
not even
Robb:
driving,
Tina m Garcia:
driving.
Robb:
that's very true. So I think that there's, look, there's always gonna be a gap between the generations, right?
Tina m Garcia:
Yeah.
Robb:
And I think the one you're involved in is always going to be the one that you say is best. I think baby boomers, the boomer generation, went through way more than us, way
Tina m Garcia:
Mm-hmm.
Robb:
more. The end of World War II, the families coming out of the Depression, right?
Tina m Garcia:
Yeah.
Robb:
10 years after the Depression, things were still really bad. Most of the baby boomers came from generations of being poor. like super poor.
Tina m Garcia:
Mm-hmm and expected to have kids raise a family buy a house
Robb:
Yeah, make it.
Tina m Garcia:
Yeah, yeah, there was no there was no excuses either
Robb:
And think about this, most of them did.
Tina m Garcia:
Mm-hmm.
Robb:
You know what I mean? Like, they made it out of being lower income pretty much across the board and a lot of moving. Like, my dad was born in Tennessee and my mom in Iowa but met in California. So, you know. you made it out of these things, like my dad joined the military. That's how he made it out of being poor.
Tina m Garcia:
Mm-hmm.
Robb:
He was like, I'm not going to have anything in the town I live in. If I joined the military, I'll have four years of income. Like he
Tina m Garcia:
Yeah.
Robb:
thought about it that way.
Tina m Garcia:
Well, my dad, he went to Vietnam because he was drafted. So, you know, people these days don't know what it's like to have to do something and such a severe something because they were called to not be, you know, it's not a choice, it was obligation.
Robb:
Yeah, I'm lucky.
Tina m Garcia:
We don't have that now.
Robb:
I'm lucky my dad did his four years before Vietnam,
Tina m Garcia:
Yeah.
Robb:
so that he couldn't get drafted.
Tina m Garcia:
See, my dad's got so many problems because of it.
Robb:
Sure,
Tina m Garcia:
And
Robb:
most
Tina m Garcia:
it's
Robb:
people that went there did.
Tina m Garcia:
yeah, yeah. And then he tells the story of how he were he. was stationed is one of the worst places like by his age there's less than 10 percent of all the people that were stationed there are gone
Robb:
Yeah.
Tina m Garcia:
so he's in the 10 percent that lived
Robb:
Yeah.
Tina m Garcia:
like i don't i can't even understand that you know and he was forced to go like people don't understand what it's like to be forced to do anything
Robb:
Yeah, well, because now we don't force anyone to do anything.
Tina m Garcia:
No.
Robb:
Now it's everything's with kid gloves and
Tina m Garcia:
Yes.
Robb:
well, and, and again, like I think that the newer generations are so fucking bonkers with what they've been taught. There's, you know, there's 200 genders now. There's, um, you know, however many different, uh, sexual preferences and, and. different ways to learn and 800 flags and it's like, whoa, I think we just need to pump the brakes. And I think that's our generation. Our generation is that last one holding on to probably more traditional values.
Tina m Garcia:
Mm-hmm.
Robb:
So,
Tina m Garcia:
But
Robb:
I don't
Tina m Garcia:
yeah,
Robb:
know.
Tina m Garcia:
we have the highest statistics for divorce, and we
Robb:
Oh
Tina m Garcia:
have
Robb:
yeah.
Tina m Garcia:
the highest statistics for single parents, as single parents, so we didn't do the best job either.
Robb:
Oh no,
Tina m Garcia:
But I
Robb:
that's
Tina m Garcia:
think it's better.
Robb:
without a doubt we didn't. I,
Tina m Garcia:
Yeah, because
Robb:
well,
Tina m Garcia:
we're
Robb:
I,
Tina m Garcia:
the ones that raise these children that are
Robb:
yeah.
Tina m Garcia:
now thinking that they deserve everything.
Robb:
I also think that they were, our children's generations were also raised by teachers. And that's
Tina m Garcia:
Mm-hmm.
Robb:
part of the problem as well, where our generation was the last to have a stay-at-home mom.
Tina m Garcia:
Mm-hmm.
Robb:
Right? Baby boomers were men went to work. Mom stayed at home, raised the kids, sent the kids to school. But when they came back, we're like, what'd you do today? And, and we're, we're changing minds or taught at home values. Now we just send their kids to school and go, hopefully everything's good. I got to get to work.
Tina m Garcia:
Mm-hmm
Robb:
And I think that there's problems in that as well. So, and you know, we've, we've talked about on other podcasts about the traditional, you know, and where that is. leaving, the future will be not there. We're gonna do a show, I was watching some stuff on marriage and what marriage is going to be going forward. It's going to die out, I think. I think
Tina m Garcia:
Hmm.
Robb:
marriage will be gone in the next, I don't know, 50 years.
Tina m Garcia:
Think so?
Robb:
Yeah, it's a dying thing because of independent women, right, that say they don't need a man, and. even if they do want a man, he has to be over six feet, make six figures, do this, do that. Now men are just starting to step back
Tina m Garcia:
Yeah,
Robb:
and going,
Tina m Garcia:
but women
Robb:
no.
Tina m Garcia:
say that, but then when you see who they lay down with, they're full of shit.
Robb:
No, but they're
Tina m Garcia:
Like,
Robb:
not
Tina m Garcia:
let's
Robb:
settling.
Tina m Garcia:
be honest.
Robb:
They're
Tina m Garcia:
They're...
Robb:
only laying down with them though.
Tina m Garcia:
Yeah.
Robb:
That's
Tina m Garcia:
Mm-hmm.
Robb:
part of the problem too. Either side will bang whoever,
Tina m Garcia:
Mm-hmm.
Robb:
but who are they willing to get married to? And part of the problem now is that men have no, there's no reason for men to get married because they
Tina m Garcia:
Seriously.
Robb:
lose everything. As a man, you're more apt to get hurt because let's say you have a child, right? you're going to pay child support. If, if you're, you're going to get, give up your house, you're going to get screwed on alimony assuming, um, everything tilts towards a woman. So there's no reason to get married anymore. There's just not. If you're going to pay child support either way, you might as well just be single, leave that, leave that girl you had a baby with and take care of your kid anyway,
Tina m Garcia:
and not lose everything else.
Robb:
and not lose everything. So it, it's a scary thing that We're the last, I think, big generation, maybe millennials. Millennials were pretty high on marriage. I think the future of marriage is gonna die with our generation. I think that us in our 50s are still likely to get married. I think I would still get married
Tina m Garcia:
Mm-mm.
Robb:
with some kind of... I just think that you'd have to have a serious conversation with the person you're gonna be with. What are you getting married for? Like, it's not kids,
Tina m Garcia:
Yeah.
Robb:
right? We're not getting married for children. So what is it? And what are you coming into the marriage with? I think now, I think you're gonna see a lot of people 50, 60, if they get married, all have prenups.
Tina m Garcia:
Think so.
Robb:
Yeah, yeah. I just think it's, and I think it's easier. And it's not even like a horrible thing. Like if I would be, if I would go into a marriage where I am living in an apartment and she has a home. That's your house. You should keep your house. If this doesn't work out between us, I should walk away with whatever money is in my bank account when I bring in, when I come in, and you should keep your house and you should keep your 401K. I shouldn't even have a right to that. That is your retirement, that's yours. But men are stealing that as well from women. that if you're in it and you don't have a 401k and she does, I'll just take your 401k or half of it because that's what I'm accustomed to.
Tina m Garcia:
Mm-hmm.
Robb:
So I think the generations, that's why I think the last generation, my son's generation, will be the least likely to get married. I think, just because there's nothing in it anymore for either side.
Tina m Garcia:
Yeah.
Robb:
Cause now you, now it's socially acceptable to have a child and just not be married,
Tina m Garcia:
Mm-hmm.
Robb:
which is another fucking bonkers thing to me. It's completely ape shit, you know, the, the.
Tina m Garcia:
Well, we're living in a time where things are definitely changing, and we're going to have to see what happens next.
Robb:
Yeah.
Tina m Garcia:
Because we're going to see another generation coming through.
Robb:
Mm-hmm.
Tina m Garcia:
Let's see what these ones start to pull off. Maybe, just maybe, they have it better than we do, as far as they'll get their shit together more than we had. I didn't think we had a bad generation, to be honest with you.
Robb:
Mm-mm.
Tina m Garcia:
We
Robb:
I
Tina m Garcia:
lived
Robb:
agree.
Tina m Garcia:
in a really good time. growing up in the eighties was exceptional we were fortunate you know
Robb:
Yeah,
Tina m Garcia:
there was
Robb:
I agree.
Tina m Garcia:
enough money for everybody there was uh... there was enough hairspray for everybody you know a good time so
Robb:
to have
Tina m Garcia:
it
Robb:
stock
Tina m Garcia:
uh...
Robb:
in Aquanet.
Tina m Garcia:
oh my god yeah i
Robb:
Oh
Tina m Garcia:
would have
Robb:
no,
Tina m Garcia:
i
Robb:
yeah.
Tina m Garcia:
would have made me some money just on what i used but i mean we'll see we'll see what this next generation has to offer and what what uh... they definitely have a lot of problems we have a lot of a lot of uh... world issues we have a lot of of pollution issues we have a lot of things that they're gonna have to fix because our generation was so wasteful so let's see what they do with it
Robb:
Yeah, we'll see the generations, uh, you know, like every generation die off.
Tina m Garcia:
Mm-hmm.
Robb:
So we'll, uh, we'll see what, uh,
Tina m Garcia:
What
Robb:
moralities
Tina m Garcia:
comes next?
Robb:
stay around and what don't. And, uh,
Tina m Garcia:
Mm-hmm.
Robb:
hopefully, um, this generation, uh, changes for the better, whatever that better is for you.
Tina m Garcia:
I don't know that the world is based on a black and white situation though. They'll do things better than we did. We'll do things better than they did. I don't think it's going to be an all or nothing situation.
Robb:
For sure, because I think the Baby Boomers would be the most to tell you that, because
Tina m Garcia:
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Robb:
of what they came from. So yes, every generation has their pitfalls. There's no doubt about it. I don't think there's one better than the other. I think that there's ones that probably had it much harder.
Tina m Garcia:
Oh yeah.
Robb:
So you know,
Tina m Garcia:
Oh yeah. Oh yeah.
Robb:
the newer generations have it easier than anyone has ever had this. kind of life, at least in the States,
Tina m Garcia:
But
Robb:
I
Tina m Garcia:
do
Robb:
should
Tina m Garcia:
they
Robb:
say.
Tina m Garcia:
though? Cause I don't think living with a phone in their hand and not having interactions are really, it's sad, it's a really bad thing.
Robb:
It's sad, but what I'm saying is that you can be smarter now than we could,
Tina m Garcia:
Mm-hmm.
Robb:
because it's easier to learn things or easy to get information. They are smart, but what I'm saying is that no one of the millennial generation and past, and I'm going to use the bell curve, missed a meal. I never missed a meal, ever. My dad missed meals. And
Tina m Garcia:
Mm-hmm
Robb:
I guarantee you. His great grandfather, my dad's great grandfather, missed a fuck ton of meals,
Tina m Garcia:
Mm-hmm.
Robb:
but survived
Tina m Garcia:
Yeah.
Robb:
enough to make sure that their names got through and we had parents. So
Tina m Garcia:
Mm-hmm.
Robb:
from that standpoint, I think they have it easier. They're not missing a meal. They always have a roof over their head. They have lights. And of course, look, I'm using the bell curve. There are homeless people and people that are in desperate needs. but for mostly that generation understands.
Tina m Garcia:
Mm-hmm.
Robb:
I mean, there's not many people who don't own a phone. I see homeless people on the street have cell phones in their hands.
Tina m Garcia:
Well, the government gives them phones. Everybody
Robb:
No,
Tina m Garcia:
has a phone.
Robb:
but what I'm saying is that everyone has a source of information. So
Tina m Garcia:
Mm-hmm.
Robb:
there's really no reason to not understand what's going on or not be able to learn something to make your life better.
Tina m Garcia:
read.
Robb:
So, I don't know. We'll probably have these. talks on generations on this podcast until it ends,
Tina m Garcia:
Hehehe
Robb:
because there's always going to be differences in the generations.
Tina m Garcia:
And yet we're not ending, we're getting close to our 100th episode, so...
Robb:
Getting close to 100.
Tina m Garcia:
Yeah...
Robb:
So cool, man.
Tina m Garcia:
That's so crazy.
Robb:
It is quite absurd this one will be number, what number are we on? We are going to be on number 96.
Tina m Garcia:
Wow. And I
Robb:
Yeah.
Tina m Garcia:
did listen to a couple of episodes while I was on a long drive. I was like,
Robb:
Yeah,
Tina m Garcia:
interesting.
Robb:
it
Tina m Garcia:
Yeah.
Robb:
is kind
Tina m Garcia:
The,
Robb:
of interesting, right?
Tina m Garcia:
my opinion of it was different than what I actually heard. So I was happy for that because I like to critique the hell out of me and, and make it to where everything's just not good enough. And I was surprised. It was good.
Robb:
I think you can learn from listening to your own show sometimes that sometimes I'll listen and critique and then sometimes
Tina m Garcia:
Mm-hmm.
Robb:
I'll listen and be lost in what we're talking about.
Tina m Garcia:
Mm-hmm.
Robb:
So I forget that it's not that I forget it's us, but I listen to the show. So it's very interesting sometimes to do on both sides of the fence.
Tina m Garcia:
Yeah.
Robb:
So hopefully everyone out there is getting their their intake of our craziness and our absurdly deep voices.
Tina m Garcia:
I know I woke up. I think I got three hours of sleep last night and I swear my voice is down a few Mm-hmm
Robb:
It's a, it's an octave or two down that from where it usually is. All right guys, we're going to head out. So any last things on our generation there, miss?
Tina m Garcia:
No, please get us on Instagram, Twitter,
Robb:
Mm-hmm.
Tina m Garcia:
Facebook,
Robb:
Facebook.
Tina m Garcia:
and listen to us anywhere. You can listen to podcasts. Please share and subscribe.
Robb:
Awesome. And don't forget, this is an opinion show, so don't get it twisted. Keep coming back every Wednesday. Tina, as always, it's always a fun.
Tina m Garcia:
Thank you, it is fun.
Robb:
We'll
Tina m Garcia:
I like
Robb:
talk
Tina m Garcia:
talking
Robb:
to you
Tina m Garcia:
to you.
Robb:
later. Alright,
Tina m Garcia:
Have a good
Robb:
bye.
Tina m Garcia:
one, bye.
