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Fitz Koehler
Episode 69th December 2020 • Dead America • Ed Watters
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Finding a cancerous lump in her breast seven weeks after a clean mammogram was terrifying. But fitness expert and race announcer Fitz Koehler refused to play the victim or allow cancer to steal her extraordinary career or time with family. In My Noisy Cancer Comeback, Fitz reveals the juicy and gory details of her 16-month battle, all while zigzagging across the United States. Enduring chemotherapy, radiation, and surgeries in the public eye wasn’t easy. You’ll laugh, cry, wince, and cheer as she chronicles the clash of an avalanche of side effects with 22 major race weekends. Her inspirational tale encompasses the terror of diagnosis, bald heads and black dresses, spectacular stages, parenting with cancer, perspective, and, most importantly, triumph. You’ll walk away grittier, more optimistic, and inspired to conquer any obstacle. This is a must-read for all cancer patients and their families. People from all aspects of the running community will adore getting to experience a behind-the-scenes view of life at the helm of America’s greatest road races.

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Fitz Koehler


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Fitz Koehler, Ed Watters

Ed Watters 00:03

Our lives can be filled with adversity. How we get through and handle adversity really defines who we are. Our guesttoday on the podcast, we spoke with Fitz Koehler from This woman is an inspiration, and her story is going to help change lives. I love how open and honest Fitz Koehler is about the situation that she went through with breast cancer. One out of eight women are inflicted by this horrible condition, breast cancer. Many of us have dealt with people, or somewhere in our lives, we've been touched by a person with cancer. So Fitz combats this by writing a book, my noisy cancer come back, running at the mouth, while running for my life. We all face adversity. But this woman faced adversity, charged into it and overcame it in a very powerful way. We are delighted that she is here to share her story. And let's not waste any more time and get into it. To overcome, you must educate. Educate not only yourself, but educate anyone seeking to learn. We are all Dead America. We can all learn something. To learn. We must challenge what we already understand. The way we do that is through conversation. Sometimes we have conversations with others. However, some of the best conversations happen with ourselves. Reach Out and challenge yourself. Let's dive in and learn something right now. Today we have a great inspirational story for you. We have Fitz Koehler of And the author of my noisy cancer come back running at the mouth while running for my life. Fitz, could you please introduce yourself and let our listeners know just a little about you and your background?

Fitz Koehler 02:58

Yeah, so I am Fitz Koehler, you got that right of, and I do a few things professionally, which helped me do one special thing which is help folks live better and longer. I'm a fitness expert. I've been teaching around the globe for decades now. I have a master's degree in exercise and sports sciences and I use my fitness profession I mainly teach via mass media, so TV, radio, books, magazines, corporate speaking and spokesperson work. However I can reach a mass amount of people in one fell swoop is where I like to direct my efforts that way. I own one of the largest school running programs in the world is called the morning mile and people can find that at morning mile dot com. And that's a before school walking running program that allows every student to participate every day, they get a 30 minute window of time to walk around. It's simple, stupid, but they can invite their family, the faculty, everyone's involved and I'm very proud to say my morning milers have run millions and millions of miles so far. And last but not least, I am a professional race announcer so I am the voice slash M.C. host of some of the largest most prestigious running events in the United States. So Los Angeles marathon, buffalo, Big Sur, Philadelphia marathons, the DC Wonder Woman and Batman series I man the start and finish line of those events, make sure everyone is engaged, informed, entertained, has a great race and feels like they won the thing once they've left.

Ed Watters 04:25

Simply incredible. one in eight women get breast cancer. You're a cancer survivor. How did that make you feel, the moment you found out that you had cancer?

Fitz Koehler 04:40

It was terrifying. It was absolutely terrifying. In a you know brief synopsis of my story is, December of 2018 clean mammogram, I had plenty of annual exams before. I started really young just under the guise that golly if I ever had one cancer cell on my body, I'd like to know about it. So I've been fanatical about early exams of a annual exams of all sorts, and I've always promoted them. And so December 18, clean mammogram less than seven weeks later in a hotel bathroom at Disney World, I rubbed my underboob. And I felt it, it was a hard bean like lump and it shouldn't have been there. And so it took me a whopping 30 seconds to pick up the phone and call and make a doctor appointment. I did not hem and ha, I didn't Google it. I didn't cry to my mom or my friends. I pick up the phone and I made the appointment. And that set forth a rapid series of events that ended up with me starting chemo less than 20 days later, I believe, but it was aggressive. And I was aggressive. And that's really the the important story here is that I was one of those one in eight American women. But I saved my own life because I I found it. And I reported it quickly.

Ed Watters 05:56

Wow. So what was the hardest part of getting that diagnosis?

Fitz Koehler 06:03

Um, you know, I it's funny I, I've always identified as being a steely, gritty, sturdy person, fearless. And there is no fear and stress like that, that comes with cancer. It was absolutely terrifying. And it allowed me to know I was mortal right away. And not only did I feel fear from my own life, but really the major fear was that I wasn't going to get to experience much of my children's lives. Ginger and Parker. And it was it was absolutely terrifying. And I really because I'm that girl, you know, I'm the one everyone's like, oh, you're perfect when it comes to fitness. So first of all, I'm not perfect, but I'm a girl who does most of the right things most of the time. So I am Exhibit A of healthy lifestyle. And there I was turning into Exhibit A of early detection and breast cancer. And I thought for certain I would definitely die simply because I made the perfect tragic tale. You know, perfect. I had that I was the fitness professional with a great family and the perfect career and I thought, Oh, God, there I go. So took a little while to get me to realize I wasn't going to die. And they did have a cure for me. But it was gut wrenching, painful, it was it was a horrible experience.

Ed Watters 07:29

Certainly devastating at the least. Being a person that takes such good care of yourself, shows us this can happen to anyone. You advocate doing self exams. Why is this so important to us?

Fitz Koehler 07:46

Well, I, you know, it's, I've had my heart broken at the hand of cancer dozens of times. Friends, my dad, two grandma's, you know, I've lost so many wonderful people because of cancer. And I just have always decided I didn't want to go down that way. And I don't want my friends to go down that way either. You know, if I had not found my own lump, if I had waited to the following December to get my annual exam, I'd be dead. It was a fast mover. And if I had waited, you know, by within seven weeks, it was a lump and three infected lymph nodes. If I had waited another 10 and a half months, you know, I'd be gone. So, you know, it's not just breast cancer, it could be any red flags your body shows you and one of the things is that people tend to think they're invincible. It's not going to happen to me quite often they'll find a lump somewhere or they'll have some nagging symptom and they ignore it. They put their head in the sand like an ostrich. And you know, the fact of the matter is doctors don't creep into your bed at night and lift up the sheets and start looking over Oh, look at Ed, he's got a bump here. We're gonna we're gonna fix that. Ed has to make the appointment and say Hey, Doc, check me out. See if you find anything wrong or tell me I'm doing great right and then you also need to I've been saying it you got to squeeze yourself ladies. You've got to put your hand in your shirt they're your boobs you have full permission to squeeze them. Guys you've got testes, you've got to squeeze them. You've got to look at your skin. You know, you just have to do it all and our body will often tell us Hey, something's wrong. We just have to be paying attention.

Ed Watters 09:22

I'm terrified of going to the doctor's. Could you walk us through the treatment you received and the worst part of this period in your life?

Fitz Koehler 09:33

Yeah, so, I'm terrified of going the doctor has got to be something you slap yourself out of because it's the doctor that is the thing that will save your life if you face something, but I did 21 rounds of chemo 33 rounds of radiation. several surgeries and my chemo lasted 15 months. The absolute most difficult part was the chemo the first five months of chemo they gave me we nicknamed it the mean chemo but My doctor said it was the most toxic combination they provide. And it was brutal it was you know it. People think, oh, you're gonna be kind of sick and tired and bald and I was those things but I wasn't kind of sick, I was violently sick. It was like having a tequila hangover. Every single day for five months, it was unbearable. And then what's interesting is I did not give up my career as a race announcer In fact, I chose to be defiant about it. And I just thought, you know what I've earned my spot on those stages, I am not giving them up. And I'm going so with that non stop tequila hangover for five months, where my stomach was chronically exploding, and every, every piece of me was being destroyed from my fingernails, my eyelashes, my vision went bad everything. But I just decided I am not letting this thing get the best of me. And so with that I got on 22 flights flew to 22 different locations, hosted 22 major events and probably half a million athletes. And it was awesome. It was really, really hard. But looking back, I'm really proud and grateful that I committed to doing that.

Ed Watters 11:11

That segues right into our next question. How did you keep working and keep all of the obligations that you had during this timeframe?

Fitz Koehler 11:22

Yeah, so good questions. When I was home. Once my doctor realized how sick I was going to be he put me on a regiment of, I'd have chemo on a Monday it was every three weeks usually on Mondays, he would have me come in for IV fluids every weekday after that and so we got creative while I was on the road, I reached out to my race directors and said hey, I'm going to be there and I'm going to perform as expected but I need a little help organize some sort of situation for me to get IV fluid drips It was pretty interesting. We we had to go through a lot of effort to keep me up on my feet. The good news is once I got onto my stages I was filled with we I you know I call it runner fueled adrenaline, where it was almost like my on switch was struck. So even if I spent the night on the bathroom hotel bathroom floor the night before, because of being sick, I would get up putting on my running shoes and my pants and my you I wasn't running I was just running at the mouth. I'm talking all the day. But I would get on my stage and zoom it was as though I was full fit full force Fitz Koehler again. And I got to be lively and energetic and and what was a great gift was turning my attention from myself to to all of my athletes, and I really got to forget about me for a while and it was pretty special.

Ed Watters 12:42

 During this time period in which you had cancer. What was the best advice, or the best help that you received?

Fitz Koehler 12:51

Um, I, you know, I didn't get a lot of advice. I think my good decisions came from within. But I really did have a lot of wonderful support. I mean, what I had to create, or I decided to create a little video announcing that I had breast cancer, I would have actually kept the whole ordeal private if I could have. But knowing I was going to stand on stages bald after having two feet of hair for my whole life. I thought people would ask questions. So I make this video and you know, I told people I said, Listen, I have breast cancer, I'm going to be fine. It's going to be difficult, but you know, I'm not going anywhere. I expect no pity you can root for me, you can pray for me, but no pity. And I'll accept your well wishes and you know, here I go type thing. But the world dumped love on me with kind messages people sent gift cards for restaurants. You know, I have two kids, I do have a husband but he works full time and you know, things like feeding my children became a big deal. You know, getting them safe rides to and from school became a very big deal. And so as far as the things that mattered most to me, I think feeding and driving my children were some of the greatest gifts I received. And my husband did everything you could imagine. I mean, he took me to all of the scary appointments and you know, anything I needed, he provided and I can tell you some days when I was really in bad shape. If he didn't bring me a drink, I wouldn't have had a drink. So it was really special to have him there. Just doing anything and everything he could to keep me healthy. And then when I was traveling, my friends, my race community, they were bringing me snacks and drinks and I actually almost passed out on a stage in July in Denver so it was 100 degrees. And I was a mile high in the sky which I'm no good at elevation because I'm a Floridian and I just had my sixth and final round of the really mean chemo. And I was on my stage with Wonder Woman mind you so at the DC Wonder Woman run series Warner Brother sends out their their wonder woman and she's gorgeous. And, you know, amazing. And so I'm standing at next to her with about 10,000 athletes surrounding me doing my thing, and then all of a sudden, Denver starts spinning. And it starts turning yellow. And I think, Oh, no, don't pass out, don't pass out, don't pass out. And then I looked at, at the ground around my stage, sometimes my stage is on grass, which is nice, this day it was not on grass. And then I saw the concrete below the stage, and I thought, Oh, no, don't break bones don't break bones. And just, you know, sometimes people, it's the right person at the right time, but our sound and video engineer, Kent, he just happened to be bringing me a drink and a snack to my stage. This was not his job, he was not snack guy. He just randomly decided he was going to take care of me in case I needed it. And I, I put the microphone down. And I started drinking and eating and the world stopped spinning. And that was just a magical little bit of support that came out of the blue and really saved us from a very difficult day.

Ed Watters 16:14

Yeah, thank God for good people. So could you tell us what was it like for you to lose your hair in the first place? And also, I noticed when you started growing your hair back, you started naming your hairs. Could you walk us through that?

Fitz Koehler 16:33

Yeah, so I I can definitely say sometimes people mean well, they they're meaning well, trying to lighten a difficult situation. Oh, it's just hair. Well, I agree that my hair was a fair exchange for my life. But it's not just hair. If it was just hair, we'd all just shave her head every day and be bald. So it was gut wrenching the thought of losing it. And then when the it started falling out, oh, it was very, very painful. And mine decided to fall out in very dramatic fashion. While I was on stage, at the Los Angeles marathon, which is my largest event of the year, I have 25,000 athletes out on the course. And I'm Manning finish line and my black stage was covered with two feet of long blonde hair everywhere. So that was tough and yielded many tears. Although I was able to do my job. Nobody knew what was going on other than my announcing partner, Rudy, but came home and shaved it which was difficult. I sat at my kitchen table with my family and my stylist Christine came over. And what we did is we separated my hair into two braids, chopped them off. And my children have them they asked for them. And I thought sure if this is what you want, you can have it so I was sad. Being bald was weird. I could it was cold. You know, I never wore a wig, I would only wear hats if you know we're out in the sunshine or it was cold outside. So it was definitely unusual getting used to I had a dark tan line on the top of my head because I always parted my hair in the middle. So I had like a skunk stripe from my forehead to the crown of my head, which was weird. And then when it started coming back in, it's amazing. You can be so happy for so little or so grateful for so little. And so yeah, I had the first piece of hair came right dead center top of my head. And it was just one piece. It grew overnight. It was maybe I don't know, half an inch of hair. And I thought there it is. So I called it Alfalfa, which is, you know, perfect for many reasons. But I did have that one Alfalfa hair, I mean, at the top of my head. And so I showed my kids and I, I'm sure I took a picture and shared it online Look, I've got Alfalfa. And then, um, a couple days later, Ginger was like, Oh, my God, Mom, you have a ponytail. And it was one rogue hair coming out of the back of my head where a ponytail would start. And it was possibly two inches long. And you know, I could have trimmed it because it was weird. And instead I thought I would take Alfalfa and and I named her Lolita because she was long and sexy and girly. And I made them role models for the rest of my head. So I had Alfalfa and Lolita for quite a while and it was awesome. And then the hair started coming back in a little patchy. And at that point, and I gotta tell you, I didn't care. I just thought, Oh, I'm getting hair. And this is cool. And I definitely have enough hair that it qualifies kind of as girl hair now. And I have it into two little ponytails. It's still weird. I wake up every morning and it stands up tall like Albert Einstein, and it's bleached blonde, so I definitely look like a nutty professor, but it's awesome. I love having hair and I'm grateful for all the little weird steps.

Ed Watters 19:55

That is so wonderful. After surviving cancer could you tell us how did it feel for you to walk up and finally get to ring that survivor Bell?

Fitz Koehler 20:07

Ah, you know what's interesting, um, you know you you go through phases with cancer so it's, I had the mean chemo and then I had surgery and during the surgery, they removed the cancerous tumor and 11 lymph nodes and they tested all the surrounding lymph nodes to make sure they had clear margins. So it was a few, maybe a month or so after surgery, I asked my radiology oncologist, I said, Dr. Hayes, when do I become in remission? She said, You're cancer free. So that was one of those moments. I was like, oh, okay, well, that was kind of anticlimactic. But um, I did ring that, I had radiation, those 33 rounds. And I really didn't have a terrible time with radiation. That was a fairly easy part of treatment, for me, I had mild burning, nothing too severe. So they have the bell ringing ceremony for that now, every cancer facility works it differently. They have different celebration mechanisms. But when I finished up with radiation, we had a big bell ringing and I woke up that morning thinking wasn't going to be too big of a deal. But yeah, I actually was really excited thinking, Oh, my gosh, I'm, I'm done. I don't know. You know, I didn't anticipate that part, meaning so much to me. But I was really proud and where I hadn't brought my children to any cancer appointments previously, because I didn't want to bring them into stressful or scary moments, I did allow them to come to the bell ringing and it was just really fun. My daughter and I did a dance at Tick Tock dance in front of the radiation machine. And that was pretty cool. And that guy went viral on social media, which was kind of neat. And then at the very end of chemo, so chemo was really the the bear for me, I had 15 months of it. And when I finished my final chemo, they had a little they have a little poster that says, you know, done with chemo on this date, something to that effect. And they play at a very low level on the stereo, Kool and, the gang celebration and, and the stereo has a little disco ball on top. So it speckles, colorful lights on the ceiling. Now, mind you, it is the quietest celebration ever. But for 15 months, I had been watching many other patients finish up their chemo. And I started feeling like, wow, I really can't wait for my own little disco party. And sadly, because of COVID, I couldn't even have my husband come in with me for that one. So it was just basically me alone. I finally felt like I was done. You know, it was incredible. I came home and all the neighbors walked up my street, I live on a hill. So they were all climbing the hill up to me with their signs. And that point where I buckled up in tears and just, you know, the whole experience of finally being done. so grateful to be alive, that it wasn't a guarantee.

Ed Watters 23:07

That's wonderful. So could you share with our listeners, what made you decide to write a book and share your journey with the whole world to see? Also, what would be the target audience for this book?

Fitz Koehler 23:25

Another good question. So um, I was inspired to write it for a couple of reasons. Number one, as I was going through it, I kept thinking, why didn't nobody warn me about this, nobody tells you these things. And I just I couldn't figure out why nobody actually ever tells the truth about what really goes on. And then when my accumulation of side effects hit the fan so seriously. And they became absurd, I started to laugh about it. And I thought, you know what, people might get a really good laugh at this. And I've always found with my presentations on fitness and sports, that if I can make the room laugh, then they stay really engaged in the message because they're looking for the next laugh. So I thought, wow, people would probably really enjoy hearing about this. So number one, getting into the gory details, because nobody does. And I can tell you that once I was completed with my book, I went out and I checked out a few books at a library women memoirs from a few famous people. And while the memoirs are very nice, they reveal almost nothing. So as far as I know, right now, I'm one of the only people who's told all the juicy, gory details and the cancer patients and survivors that are reading it now. unanimously come back and say I wish I had it when I was diagnosed. That's one thing. And then the other thing that really inspired me to write the book is the fact that when cancer care collided with my profession, things went haywire in a very interesting way. And there was Just so many interesting, exciting stories to tell, I could have very easily titled The book adventures in breast cancer. Um, but yeah, I think, from what the feedback I get from other people, because it doesn't really matter what I think about the book it's they tell me, it's very informative. And it's a tremendous message of hope and perseverance. And I think when people get diagnosed with cancer, they start looking for two things, information, and hope. And then last, but not least, I think the running community will certainly get a great kick out of it, because I bring them behind the scenes on what it's like to do what I do for these gargantuan events. And they really enjoy learning a little bit of that.

Ed Watters 25:45

So do you feel that the book met your expectations?

Fitz Koehler 25:49

Yeah, yeah, I'm very proud of the book. I mean, I I'm someone who only writes or I only get on a stage when I have something specific to say, you know, I'm not someone you can hire to write an article. I don't work that way. I only write or speak when I have something valuable to say. And I really think these pages are filled with funny stories, raw stories, a lot of good advice. perspective, I think there's, hopefully, hopefully the reader will enjoy the book I hear it's a page turner, but hopefully they walk away a little bit of a better person because of it.

Ed Watters 26:27

Okay, could you tell our listeners, what's the message you want people to take away from this book,

Fitz Koehler 26:34

that they're responsible for their own health, that you know, a health matters, it matters, what you put in your mouth, it matters, the way you move your body where you sleep, whether you deal with quality people or cranky people. So you are responsible for your health. And if I can be diagnosed with cancer, as you said it from the start, anybody can be diagnosed with cancer or something else. So it's better to prepare your body to do battle right now. And I assure you that going into any sort of illness or injury, you will recover and rebound far more quickly and easily. If you are fit and strong to begin with. If you go into crisis already in a weak or sickly state, you may not make it out. So health matters. And too many people are focused on their swimsuit body if you want to look great in a swimsuit, and you can do that great for you. But it's not about that it's about living long, living well and being resilient. And I think people who, who go from point A to B in my book will have that kick in the can and hopefully start doing better for themselves and they will squeeze their stuff.

Ed Watters 27:44

So that leads us right into my next question. How important is everyday exercise? Also, how much exercise per day should we be getting?

Fitz Koehler 27:58

So I like to let people choose but you know, understand that the way our body was designed with our joints, our ball and socket joints, our hinge joints, our body was designed to move it wasn't designed to sit down, we have 164 hours in a week. So on occasion, someone will say you should do three 30 minute workouts per week. Okay, well, that's 90 minutes out of 164 hours. If you're not specifically exercising or being active, more than likely you're sitting in a chair driving, eating, reading, working, or you're lying, flat sleeping. So we do lots and lots and lots of sitting and sleeping. I think 90 minutes out of 164 hours, maybe not enough. Now you don't have to be perfect. You don't have to run a marathon but I think a good solid hour of deliberate exercise per day is a minimum and when I say exercise that's not mowing the lawn. Exercise is deliberate. You put on your running shoes, or your swimsuit or your sports bra, and you've gone out to huff and puff or get stronger, stretch, train your balance you know it's deliberate exercise. I also want you to be active. I want you to clean your house and I want you to garden but I want you to also deliberately exercise and so choose wisely and then you have to watch what you put in your body. You know your exercise determines whether you are strong and athletic and have great cardio respiratory abilities. However, your eating habits and drinking habits determine your size. And if you're overweight, you're usually a little more likely to end up with things like diabetes and heart disease and cancer so your weight actually does matter. If you are struggling with your weight, on the cover of my website, it's called there's an article called the exact formula for weight loss and it will help you achieve your ideal weight by learning how to eat the right amount of the right foods for the size you want to be. I am completely opposed to diets, pills, powders, supplements, wraps, any of this snake oil. Fitness isn't complicated, you really do have to decide what size you want to be, that formula will give you a clear budget. And then you just stick to that and you try to eat more healthy foods than unhealthy foods. So very simple stupid on that. But you should be able to achieve your ideal weight moving forward without problem and I can tell you that everybody's capable of losing weight because if you stranded anybody at sea, they would lose weight. And so, um, you can do this. Yeah, it requires a little bit of strength and discipline, math, science, and I and I lay that out for people quite simply, as far as exercise goes, you know, frequency and intensity matters. But variety matters too, to make your heart and lungs strong, your muscles strong, all of them not just your arms, or not just your legs, all your muscles matters, do your best to be well rounded. You don't have to run if you don't like to run, you can dance, you can paddleboard you can do karate, whatever it is that suits you probably will move you towards that finish line.

Ed Watters 31:11

So could you tell us what got you started in this sort of lifestyle? And how early in your life did this sort of behavior begin?

Fitz Koehler 31:21

So I'm, I'm fortunate I grew up in a very athletic family. We were always in one sport or another. I did everything in elementary school alone from t ball to soccer, cheerleading, speed skating. You name it, I did it. I was never a great athlete. But I was a kid who always participated in sports. When I was 14, I got tackled playing soccer, ended up with a MCL tear and a variety of cartilage ligament tendon damage, had major surgery. And I thought during the physical therapy process, that wow, I'd like to be a physical therapist. This is a great job. I like the gym atmosphere. I liked helping people. But then the PT ended up touching my incision. And I thought that's disgusting. I could not touch somebody else's incision because I'm squeamish. And so I left PT and went over I joined a gym. My mom lied and said that I was 15. So I could join the gym. And I thought the aerobics instructors were cool. I like their leotard. I liked taking classes. And so while I was still 15, I applied for a job there and the manager was real low key. He said, Well, you know, have you ever taught fitness before? And I said, No. He said, All right. Well, you want to come in on Friday night and try teaching a class. Thankfully, I'm a gamer. So I said, Sure. So I started teaching in that gym and fell in love with it. I loved helping people. I love sports and fitness and music. And then when I came up to the University of Florida, I was teaching at their gym, but I took the summer off to work on a cruise ship. And so I sailed across the Atlantic to Russia, and every country in Scandinavia, and I had a wonderful time working with a variety of people on that ship and off the ship. And then when I came back to Gainesville, for more college, I auditioned for a TV show and ended up landing a role teaching on television, and that that really was a pivot point where I was introduced to mass audiences and I would meet strangers, who would tell me that they loved the show, and I had helped them lose so much weight, and I really thought wow, this is a powerful tool for me. I liked helping strangers you know, it's it's one thing to be in a classroom and teach exercise to 50 people it's a completely different beast to be able to be on a television three times a week and help thousands of people at a time. So I fell in love with mass media, writing articles, speaking to corporations, speaking for corporations, so anytime I can get it get on a stage on a microphone, I do it.

Ed Watters 34:02

Well, you sure are an inspiration to a lot of people. So if people want to hire you for a speaking engagement, or to announce their race, how would they contact you to get involved with you?

Fitz Koehler 34:16

Oh, thank you for asking. So I'm always available at Fitzness dot com, that's There's a contact Fitz form on there but I'm always going to be at and it's a great wealth of information right there as well. And then I'm on social media on Instagram, Facebook and YouTube. At Fitzness. So yeah, and I really enjoy it when people reach out if they say Hey, I heard you on the Dead America podcast. I would love that. So reach me at or Fitzness on social media.

Ed Watters 34:51

Well, I would love that if they reached out and said they found you on Dead America podcast. It was a great time with you. I do thank you, Fitz, for being with us today.

Fitz Koehler 35:02

Of course, thank you so much, Ed, I really appreciate the opportunity.

Ed Watters 35:12

Thank you for joining us today. If you found this podcast enlightening, entertaining, educational in any way, please share, like, subscribe and join us right back here next week for another great episode of Dead America Podcast. I'm Ed Watters your host Enjoy your afternoon wherever you may be.