Why do forgotten figures make such powerful stories?

Some see Nikola Tesla as a genius. Others see a myth.

But what if part of his story has been missing all along?

In this episode, I’m joined by Patric Ryan, who has spent years uncovering not just Tesla’s work, but the people around him. Because Tesla didn’t work alone.

We explore the experiments, the risks, and the ideas that shaped the modern world… alongside the story of Kolman Czito, the assistant who saved Tesla’s life, then disappeared from history.

From an unmarked grave to a rediscovered legacy, this is a story about the people history forgets and what happens when someone decides to go looking for them.

We also explore how stories like this sit right on the edge of history and mystery. Why some figures become legends while others disappear and what happens when someone starts searching for the missing pieces.

This conversation isn’t just about Tesla, it’s about rediscovering the gaps in history, and the stories still waiting to be told.

If you’re drawn to hidden history, forgotten names, and real-world mysteries that feel stranger than fiction, you’re going to enjoy this one.

In this Episode, We Explore:

1. Forgotten figures can be just as compelling as famous ones – sometimes the most powerful stories are the ones history almost lost.
2. Mystery fuels engagement – gaps in the historical record invite curiosity, interpretation, and storytelling.
3. Real-world stories can feel like fiction – especially when they involve secrecy, erased records, and unanswered questions.
4. It’s always about people – even in stories about great inventors, it’s the human connections that bring everything to life.

Episode Timestamps:

1. 02:05 - Patric’s Tesla Origin Story
2. 03:50 - Who Was Nikola Tesla
3. 05:34 - War of Currents Explained
4. 07:29 - World’s Fair to Colorado
5. 12:13 - Wireless Power and Coverup
6. 14:53 - The Assistant Who Saved Him
7. 17:17 - Missing Memorial to Statue
8. 22:22 - Czito’s Legacy After Tesla
9. 24:57 - FBI Seizure and Secrets
10. 27:25 - Marking Forgotten Graves
11. 29:57 - Why Tesla Matters to Patric

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To some, he's a visionary genius.

To others, a tragic eccentric.

To a few, something closer to a magician.

Today, I'm talking about part man, part myth.

Nikola Tesla.

But Tesla wasn't just an ideas man.

He was an experimenter, someone willing to test his theories in the real world, even when that world pushed back.

Today, we're exploring who Nikola Tesla really was, why his work still matters, and the story of one man who worked beside him, shared the risks, and who, without my guest today, would have been totally lost to history.

Hi, I'm Luke.

I'm an author of archaeological adventure novels.

I travel the world looking for stories to put into my books and to share with you right here on the Adventure Story podcast.

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Right, let's get going.

I speak with a lot of experts on this podcast.

Today, though, I'm talking with someone who cares so much about the topic, he's made history himself.

My guest is historian and author Patrick Ryan, whose research looks beyond the myths to uncover the people, the places, and the forgotten stories behind the mysterious experiments of Nikola Tesla.

Patrick, welcome to the Adventure Story podcast.

Thank you.

Thank you for having me.

Oh, it's wonderful to be able to talk with you.

Where are you as we speak?

And that's how you got interested in this, I assume?

Or is there another story behind that?

No.

I was a fine arts major at the University of Georgia.

I was in the play Amadeus.

I was backstage waiting for my cue to go on stage, and I was reading a book about Nikola Tesla, and I had an epiphany right backstage that Tesla and Mozart shared the same exact type of genius.

And then I realized not only did their genius mirror each other, but so did their lives.

Salieri was the Mozart what Thomas Edison was to Tesla.

And I said to myself, well, Amadeus has won every award known to stage at least twice, both in London on the West End and here in the States.

And it swept the Academy Awards.

Why don't I write a play about Tesla at Edison?

And so I wrote a play called Mark Twain and the War of Wizards.

And that led to me coming to Colorado Springs for a writer's convention.

It's so beautiful here, Pikes Peak.

There's no bugs, no humidity.

So I moved here.

And I just did concentric circles until I found the first rental.

And that's where I live.

What a story.

A lot of people get inspired by the famous people of the past, but not so much as, like, moving across the country, moving my whole life to a different place, you know, to do this.

It's so beautiful.

And this is where my research was taking me anyway.

And the city was already calling on me as an expert, so I just decided to move here.

Love it.

Love it.

I'm excited for this conversation first.

Then let's go back to basics.

For someone hearing Nicola Testa for the first time, we assume that no one's heard of him before.

Who was he and why does he matter to the modern world?

I used to run into this problem a lot when I had that revelation about Tesla and Mozart.

That was maybe 15 years ago.

And I'd say one out of 20 people on the street had heard the name Tesla.

And then the car came out, and then everybody had heard of the car, but nobody knew the man that the car was named after.

If you've ever listened to the radio, Tesla invented the radio.

If you've ever used remote control, Tesla invented remote control.

If you've ever had an X ray, Tesla discovered X rays.

A lot of other people got credit for Tesla's discoveries and inventions, but a lot of that was overturned finally.

But Tesla has directly affected our modern world in just about every way.

Anything that's wireless, he is directly responsible for.

Wow.

Wow, what an impact, what an impression to have.

What made his ideas different to other engineers, other inventors working in the late 19th century?

Well, the big showdown happened between him and Edison.

And Edison wouldn't even look at the designs.

He told Tesla, we're DC here, direct current.

If you want to help me out, why don't you fix my system?

And so he did.

He worked 20 hour days, seven days a week for nine months and completely redesigned Edison's system to the point that all new patents had to be filed.

So when we actually had the war of currents, A.C. versus B.C.

Edison versus Westinghouse.

At that point in history, both systems had been completely designed or redesigned by Tesla.

And what the difference is, with DC power, you need a copper line as thick as my forearm.

And you have to build a power plant every couple of miles to maintain the charge.

And if your house is the closest to the power plant, you're going to have the brightest lights on the street.

And if your house is the furthest, you're going to have the dimmest lights.

With Tesla's system, the AC system, the system we use today, you need a copper line thinner than my pinky.

You can send that power hundreds, if not thousands of miles.

Cause the whole line is charged, alternating back and forth.

And it doesn't matter where your house is.

Everybody has the same intensity.

Fascinating stuff, fascinating stuff.

And you can see why that's so important sort of today, can't you?

So talk me through the timeline.

This started off in New York, didn't it?

And then headed out west to where you are now.

Why did Tesla make that step?

And what was sort of the decision process behind that?

Well, Tesla and Edison had this rivalry.

Tesla quit Edison and Westinghouse bought into Tesla's patents for alternating current.

And Edison had a lock on the market.

And he was being backed by JP Morgan.

It was the first World's Fair that was lit by electricity.

They had the first night football game there.

It was a first for a lot of things.

Edison wins the popularity contest because he's the great inventor.

But when they actually sat down and did the math, they realized that Tesla's system was superior.

And if we had stuck with Edison's system, rural areas today would still not have power and we would have run out of copper a long time ago.

J.P. morgan felt that Edison had lied to him because he asked Edison were there any competing systems, and he told him nothing of any consequence.

So when Westinghouse and Tesla win the contract and then ultimately end up harnessing Niagara Falls, Morgan is so upset, he took Edison Electric away from Thomas Edison, combined it with another company, and today that company is General Electric.

So Edison is pushed out.

He's reading in the newspaper that Tesla is hanging out with Mark Twain, and Mark Twain's taking him to the Players Club in New York.

And then they're taking the after parties to Tesla's lab.

Now, a lot of people know the rivalry between Edison and Tesla, but they don't realize there was actually a woman involved.

And her name was Sarah Bernhardt.

If you look up Sarah Bernhardt, Wikipedia will tell you she is the most famous actress the world has ever known.

She was French and she was in the right place at the right time to dominate the silent film industry.

Everyone was in love with her.

Mark Twain went on and on about her beauty and about her accent.

And of course, Edison knows her because Edison controls the silent film era.

His team invents the first motion picture camera, the process to develop film.

He had the first studio.

And when he read in the paper that she was dating Nikola Tesla, he loses it.

And shortly after that, Tesla's lab in New York City is burnt down under mysterious circumstances.

And so General Palmer is out here in Colorado Springs.

He's the town founder.

He's trying to get people to relocate to Colorado Springs.

He had a hard time just getting his wife to come out here.

He actually built her a castle that I work at called Glenarry Castle, just to get her to move out here, because she liked New York and London and Paris.

And what they're hoping is going to happen is that Tesla is going to be like Edison and make all these grandiose announcements and have some great new invention every six to nine months and put Colorado Springs on the map.

But Tesla is very secretive when he comes out here.

In fact, I've got the receipts.

The first thing he bought was ammo, lots of ammo.

And he hires private security.

Wow.

And so he's very secretive why he's out here.

And this must link to the myth about the man separating the myth from reality.

And is this perhaps where the myth starts?

Because he's just so secretive?

Right.

No one knows.

The truth is hard to find.

Well, Tesla came out here to figure out how to transmit power wirelessly so that we would never have to pay a power bill.

And so he thought, he figured it Out.

And whatever he figured out, he closed his lab here after about nine months and he moved back to New York.

JP Morgan became his investor.

And Tesla went out to Long island and he built that huge mushroom shaped tower out at Wardenclyffe.

And he gave J.P. morgan one demonstration of that tower.

And when J.P. morgan realized that J.P. morgan thought he was investing in the world's first radio tower, he wanted all the stock market and the commodities and sailboat races over in London.

He wanted all those results before anybody else so he could make moves on the market.

But when he realized that the tower could also transmit power, he shut the whole project down.

He told Tesla, I am not in the business of providing the world with free power.

If I can't put a meter on it or sell it by the gallon or the barrel, I'm not interested.

If I go with your plan, I'm reduced to selling antennas.

And then he had Tesla erased from history.

And when I say erased, I mean it was pretty thorough.

I have pictures of Mark Twain in Tesla's lab.

I've got telegrams from Mark Twain to Nikola Tesla asking him to be his agent in Europe with his remote control torpedo.

Mark Twain was there the night Tesla beat the grand champion of billiards just to impress Sarah Bernhardt.

Some of the first X rays ever taken were of Mark Twain by Tesla.

You would think Mark Twain would write about that, because this is a man who wrote about everything.

Jumping frogs, naked ladies on the Sandwich Islands and his trips all over Europe.

But find me one thing Mark Twain ever wrote about Nikola Tesla.

I'm sure he did.

It's just not available to us.

It's missing.

So that's the mystery, isn't it, that this was sort of scrubbed from the history books?

You think that's where this element of sort of mythology comes from?

Well, we have all these conspiracy theories because we just don't know the truth.

It is still being withheld from us.

That brings us on really to what we're talking about today and one of the main parts of this interview, because obviously Tesla did some important work, but he wasn't working alone.

Tesla had several assistants.

His most trusted and loyal assistant was Comanzito.

He had another assistant, Fritz Loewenstein.

Fritz would kind of go ahead of Tesla, scout out an area and get it ready for him.

And then once the project was fully built and he was ready to get down to business, the most secretive of his experiments involved Colman Zito.

And Colman Zito actually saved Tesla's life during an experiment out here.

In Colorado Springs.

Wow.

This is two blocks from your house where we're talking to you now.

Tell me about that.

So Tesla had this giant alligator clip that he would pop on and off to turn the power on.

And it was really hard to operate, so he rigged it with a spring to make it easier.

He then sent Coleman Zito on a special delivery to the train depot to pick up some equipment.

And while he was alone in his lab adjusting the equipment, somehow that switch got flipped on and Tesla got trapped by all the electrical streamers.

He's getting zapped, and he falls to his hands and knees, and he can't breathe because of the ozone.

And just before he contemplated his own death, the power was cut from the outside, and it was colmanzito.

So whatever he was supposed to pick up at the train depot did not come.

And instead of being like, somebody today who says, oh, the boss doesn't expect me for two hours, I think I'll go get some coffee or something.

Thomas Zito came right back.

And thank God he did, because he came back just in time to cut the power and save Tesla's life.

Wow.

Wow.

How history could have been different if he hadn't have done.

Tell me about Zito.

Who is Colman Zito?

Where did he come from?

What's his story?

So Colman Zito was an immigrant from Hungary, and him and Tesla got along really well because they could speak in Tesla's home language and other people wouldn't know what they were talking about.

When I first moved out here to Colorado Springs, there used to be a memorial to Tesla in the park that's close to this location.

But when I went to find that memorial, it was missing.

And so I grabbed somebody in the park, and I said, hey, what happened to this memorial that was right here?

Everybody in Colorado, by the way, is high.

So I think the guy was high.

He says, oh, we had a windstorm come through, and it dropped that tree, and it crushed the memorial.

And we just cleaned it up and threw it away.

And I was like, well, are you going to replace it?

And he says, I don't think so.

Now, if Thomas Edison himself had come over there and cut that tree down to crush the Tesla memorial, I could accept that.

But an act of God.

So I posted a video.

Can't my hero get a break?

And a very famous artist and sculptor who's a personal friend of mine, his name is Stan Mullins.

So when I met Stan, he had just finished the Vince Dooley statue at the University of Georgia.

He's Got monuments everywhere.

He's got two national monuments, Martin Luther King and Chief Tomachee Chee in Atlanta.

And Stan said, well, Patrick, it's not like you don't know anybody who can't build a statue.

And I said, you would do that?

He said, yeah, absolutely.

Why don't you help me design this statue?

And I said, well, Stan, if we're going to build a statue of Tesla for the city of Colorado Springs, we got to put this other guy in it, Colmanzito.

Because he actually saved Tesla's life.

And those assistants that help all these people, they're the ones who are really forgotten.

And so we designed this statue with Colmanzito, and then we put it online.

And then all of a sudden, I get a call out of the blue from some guy in Kew Gardens, New York, in Queens, and he says, Mr. Ryan, we found your Nikola Tesla statue project online.

In it, you depict this other guy, Colman Zito.

We have a Colmanzito in an unmarked grave in our cemetery.

And we did some research, and it's the same individual, and we would like to mark his grave after 95 years.

And then he sent me a picture of Carmen Zito, which we didn't have before.

So Stan is an artist, and when we were designing the statue, he said, patrick, I need an image of what this guy looks like.

Yeah.

And I said, I don't have an image.

All the pictures I have from Tesla's archive, you know, Tesla had ocd, so Coleman's always in the back sweeping the floor.

You can't see his face.

And Stan said, well, I need a face.

Well, there was a movie that came out starring David Bowie as Tesla called the Prestige.

And I think to date, that's the best Hollywood depiction of Tesla.

And Stan said, great.

I love David Bowie.

So Colman Zito had David Bowie's face, But when Carl Balena of the Maple Grove Cemetery sent me a picture of Colman Zito, he didn't look anything like David Bowie.

It would have been strange if he had.

He had this giant, big, bushy mustache.

So I had to call Stan back and say, stan, I know that's your favorite part of this statue, but we actually have a picture now.

And then when all this was going down, the city of Colorado Springs calls me and says, Mr. Ryan, we've got our sesquintennial parade.

We've got a float that was made by the sheet metal workers, and we would like you to be Nikola Tesla in the city Parade.

And I said to the guy, I said, you realize that Tesla is tall, thin, and attractive, and I'm not, but I know a guy.

So I reached out to one of my cosplay friends, Tom Lazzaro.

We go to, like, Comic Con and Dragon Con together, and Tom always goes as Dr.

Strange.

And I thought, you know, I think Tom could pull off looking like Tesla.

And I told Tom, I said, look, you won't have to be on the float by yourself.

I will go as your assistant, Colman Zito.

Oh, I see.

Yes.

So I sent you a picture today of Tom and I on that day, and I'm wearing the big, bushy mustache.

Yeah, yeah, brilliant.

Yeah, I got it.

And Tom looks exactly like Tesla.

I mean, he was a dead ringer.

It was perfect.

That is fun.

And that's what I particularly love about the way you bring this story to life, is that you're not just reading it, you're not just researching it, but you're sort of piecing it together, right?

You're remembering it, bringing it to the forefront for future generations who can now remember this in a.

In a more complete sort of way.

What happened to Colmanzito after his time with Tesla, then?

How did he end up in an unmarked grave in New York?

Tesla went back to New York.

Coleman Zito and then his son Julius Zito helped Tesla build the Wardenclyffe Tower.

And so when Coleman died, Julius then became Tesla's assistant.

And just to give you an idea of how close the Zitos were to Tesla, Tesla got into financial trouble later in life, and he actually got evicted from several places, ultimately settling down in the New Yorker Hotel, in which the Westinghouse Corporation agreed to pay his hotel bill for the rest of his life.

And that's where he spent the last 10 years of his life pretty much being forgotten.

But every time Tesla got evicted, it was the Zitos who would show up and help him move many times without pay.

Tesla had some pigeons that were an experiment.

He realized that pigeons could be controlled through frequencies.

But then he fell in love with these pigeons because they became these beloved pets.

And when his favorite pigeon died.

I don't know if you're familiar with Tesla and his pigeon story.

He was so close with the Zetos, it was Julius Zeto he called to come and bury his favorite pigeon when it died.

So he was very close to the Zetos.

What a story.

What a story.

Tell me what this meant to you personally.

Let's talk about you for a second.

You, because you've Sort of gone on this adventure to discover this grave.

And then I think it was only quite recently you were able to actually mark the grave.

I think you said 99 years.

The day that Tom and I were in the parade, the cemetery called me back and said, Mr. Ryan, there are actually descendants, and they would like to talk to you.

So the first time I ever talked to the descendants of Colmazito, I was actually dressed as Colmancito about to do a parade.

So he put me on a conference call with the family, and I said, well, before we get into this, I got to show you this picture.

So I sent him a picture of me and Tom.

I said, I'm actually dressed as your great, great grandfather right now.

And the family had no idea that Colmanzito had been Tesla's assistant.

They knew he had some equipment, and there was some silver shavings that had been passed down in the family from Coleman.

I think what happened with Coleman and all of Tesla's assistants is Tesla got on the wrong side of some very powerful people.

J. Edgar Hoover himself mobilized every available agent, and they went anywhere and everywhere that Tesla had ever been, and they seized everything, and then they sequestered it for 10 years.

So I think the Zitos learned to keep their mouth shut because there was so much intrigue surrounding Tesla with the government involved.

You know, Tesla had developed a death ray, and he refused to sell the plans to just one government because he felt the device was too powerful.

So the Russians actually paid for their one third of the device.

And then the British and the Americans reneged on their one third of the device.

The Americans decided to go with the Manhattan Project, the atomic bomb.

But the Russians had already paid their money, so they wanted the device.

Everything was sequestered, and then it was classified.

And so the reason why the the United States government classified everything is all of his belongings when he died are going to go to his family, and they're all overseas in what is today Serbia and Croatia area.

It was either going to be the Nazis or the Russians.

And they didn't want either one of them having wireless transmission of power, the death ray, which was essentially a particle beam, or some of this other technology that Tesla was working on.

And so they just erased him from history because I guess that was the safest thing to do.

At that point.

Amazing.

Yeah.

Circling back towards Colman Zito, then how does your trying to sort of bring him to the fore, remembering the work that he did and actually saving Tesla's life as well, of course.

How does that change, do you think?

How?

We remember not just Tesla, but all these other great inventors, you know, who have countless people in the shadows who they wouldn't have been able to complete what they did without.

Well, not only did we mark Colman Zito and Julia Zito's grave, we also marked Thomas Edison's assistant, Louis Latimer.

And it all got wrapped into this one project.

The people at the Maple Grove Cemetery in Kew Gardens, New York, in Queens, they got so excited about history, they went around the corner to the Lewis Latimer House Museum.

Lewis Latimer was a very famous black inventor, and he was Thomas Edison's patent clerk.

And they're telling the director of this museum, hey, at our cemetery around the corner, we've got Nikola Tesla's assistant buried in an unmarked grave.

And so they asked them, where is Louis Latimer buried?

And the director did not know.

So Helen from the Maple Grove Cemetery said, well, I have some experience in this.

So they went back to their offices and they found Lewis Latimer was buried in an unmarked grave in Falls Rivers, Massachusetts.

So they called me and said, Mr. Ryan, do you know who Lewis Latimer is?

And I said, absolutely.

They said, well, he's also in an unmarked grave.

Stan the artist was working on the Martin Luther King statue at the time with the King family.

And so I called Stan and I said, stan, you're not going to believe this.

We got to mark another grave.

And he told the King family that they had found Louis Vladimir's grave.

Well, Louis Vladimir helped invent the light bulb, and he's one of our very first famous black inventors.

And the King family said, well, Stan, you've got to mark his grave.

And because the King family is so well connected, we ended up marking Lewis Latimer's grave two years ago.

Wow.

Yeah.

99 Years to the day.

And that's such a powerful thing, isn't it?

Because now he's.

There's a record of him.

We know where he lies.

What a story, Patrick.

What a story.

I ask this question to everyone on the podcast.

It's not necessarily to do with what we've been talking, but I'm intrigued to hear what you say.

Looking back, what stories, what adventure stories, whether they're books or movies or legends, got you interested in this sort of thing?

I got upset that Tesla got erased from history.

The more I went down that rabbit hole, I realized how much of our world we owe to this guy.

And it bothered me that not once was Nikola Tesla ever mentioned in any history or science class I ever took.

Not in grade school, not in primary school, not in college.

He was never mentioned.

And yet we owe so much of our modern world to this guy.

So that really bothered me.

I wanted to vindicate him.

Wonderful, Wonderful.

Patrick, this has been fantastic.

This has been fantastic.

Where can people find you and what you do online, should they want to know a little bit more?

Well, I've got a Facebook page.

The Nikola Tesla statue and monument for the city of Colorado Springs.

We also have a Colmanzito page.

Oh, wow.

And then we have another one for Mark Twain and the War of Wizards.

I have got some more exciting news.

I was at a writers conference and Jonathan Mayberry, he's a very famous author and Hollywood figure, and he was giving a panel about becoming a media tie in.

And he said, if you're really knowledgeable about something, you can become an expert that people will call on.

People are already paying me to come and talk about Tesla.

So I asked him, I said, what do I got to do to be the media Italian guy for Nikola Tesla?

And he said, well, you should publish an anthology and get some famous authors to submit some stories.

And I said, well, can I ask you a follow up question?

He was like, sure.

I said, I was recently given this great advice that I should publish an anthology and get some famous authors.

Would you be willing to submit a story?

And he just looked at me and he called me up, he gave me his business card.

So Jonathan Mayberry is gonna submit a story.

Kevin J. Anderson, who is the consultant on the Dune movies, he is now also submitting a story.

And a dozen other authors, including Steve Ruskin, who's our friend.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Are all interested in submitting to this anthology.

So it's coming, it's happening.

Fantastic.

Oh, fantastic.

Well, when that happens, I'll.

I'll drop the link in this.

In this podcast so people can find it.

Patrick, that was absolutely brilliant.

A fascinating story.

And I love how you're.

You're not just sort of remembering history, but you're, you're bringing it.

You're making it easier for other people to follow in your footsteps as well.

So that's a real, a real good thing.

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