Summary
In this episode of the Non Judging Breakfast Pod, hosts Leif and Steve are back to unpack Season 2, Episode 11 of Gossip Girl, "The Magnificent Archibalds." As Thanksgiving approaches, the drama intensifies on the Upper East Side. Nate faces a moral dilemma involving his father, while Blair struggles with the changes brought by her mother's new relationship. Meanwhile, Jenny's quest for independence leads to tension with her family, and Serena navigates the complexities of her relationship with Aaron. The hosts delve into themes of family loyalty, personal growth, and the consequences of secrets. They also explore the behind-the-scenes dynamics and cultural references that make this episode a standout.
Keywords
Gossip Girl, family loyalty, personal growth, secrets, drama, podcast, analysis
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Welcome
02:30 Thanksgiving Traditions and Feuds
05:45 Current Controversies: Blake Lively
10:00 Discussing "The Magnificent Archibalds"
15:20 Nate's Dilemma and Family Dynamics
22:00 Jenny's Independence and Rufus's Response
30:30 Blair's Struggles with Change
35:45 Serena's Relationship with Aaron
40:50 Eric and Lily's Family Secrets
45:00 Episode Highlights and Reflections
52:30 Stock Watch: Characters Rising and Falling
1:00:00 Best Outfits and Fashion Highlights
1:05:00 Predictions and Closing Remarks
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Edited and mixed by Leif Capicola.
The Gossip Girl Theme Performed By Steve Marchion.
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Robin and I have an ongoing feud because
Steve:Robin likes candied walnuts on top
Steve:of her sweet potatoes, and I grew up with
Steve:marshmallows. And so this is an ongoing
Steve:battle that I have a microphone and
Steve:she doesn't.
Leif:So I'm going to side with Robin on this one
Leif:because I'm not a child, Steve.
Steve:I have no defense to that.
Leif:Yes.
Leif:Hey, Upper east siders, and all you scandal loving listeners out
Leif:there, you just tuned into the non judging breakfast
Leif:pod where the coffee is strong, the
Leif:waffles are fresh, and the gossip is hotter than
Leif:ever. My name is Leif, and I'm your seasoned Gossip
Leif:Girl veteran.
Steve:And I'm Steve, your newbie, your Greene horn,
Steve:your. I don't know, Leif. What do you call the new kid on the block
Steve:in Gossip Girl terms?
Leif:I don't know. just remember, Serena doesn't share.
Steve:Yeah, well, Blair needs to learn to.
Leif:Sounds good.
Steve:So here's the deal, folks. Leap has been watching
Steve:Gossip Girl since it first aired, and I'm diving in for the
Steve:first time. And together, we're your dynamic duo, bringing
Steve:you all the drama, romance, and sometimes
Steve:questionable fashion choices for this
Steve:iconic 2007
Steve:series.
Leif:That's right. Each week we'll be taking a deep dive into the
Leif:show one episode at a time. We're
Leif:going to look at all the parallels, obscure references,
Leif:and of course the couture catastrophes.
Leif:Plus we'll also be talking about some behind the scenes
Leif:action and some stories from fandom.
Steve:And since we're all about inclusivity here at the non judging
Steve:breakfast pod, there is always a seat
Steve:for you at the non judging breakfast table. So go ahead and grab
Steve:your mimosa, a cup of coffee or some of
Steve:Nate and Chuck special medicine if it's that kind of
Steve:morning. And let's get started.
Leif:So right now, when this people are listening to this episode,
Leif:it will be deep in the heart of spooky season. October
Leif:28th release date of this episode.
Steve:Oh, wow. Yeah.
Leif:So, happy early Halloween.
Steve:Yeah. Ah, happy Halloween. Yeah,
Steve:that's. That's nice. I actually, I think that just
Steve:this past weekend I want
Steve:to have a, like a little fire pit in my backyard. So I'll let
Steve:you know if that's happening.
Leif:Okay. And yeah, so
Leif:at. While we're. It's in the news now, but hopefully
Leif:we'll find out some more by the time this is released. But there
Leif:a little bit of controversy going on with Blake Live this
Leif:past week.
Steve:So I saw that there was a little bit of controversy. I didn't
Steve:see what it Was. I know that it has to do with this movie
Steve:that she's promoting. it ends with us.
Steve:side note, costume designer
Steve:Eric Damon. Eric Damon? Yeah.
Leif:The one person from Gossip Girl that was invited to her wedding even
Leif:though they shot. They. They got married during
Leif:season six filming.
Steve:Oh, wow.
Leif:And that was the only person from the show that went to the wedding
Leif:that's telling.
Leif:yes. And so
Leif:anyways, the story is. So
Leif:this movie, this is us. she's based on a book.
Steve:This ends with us. This ends with us.
Leif:Yes. And people kind
Leif:of noticed all the cast,
Leif:including Blake unfollowed the director,
Leif:star of the movie, who was the original one who got
Leif:bought the rights from the author. He's the one that
Leif:optioned the rights.
Leif:And people like, what's going on? And started
Leif:out, there's rumors like maybe he
Leif:made, you know, someone feel uncomfortable on set.
Steve:Okay.
Leif:But then people are like, no,
Leif:that might not be what happens.
Leif:Maybe Blake and Ryan are using their
Leif:pod because it's kind of known that
Leif:she's promoting as almost like a romantic
Leif:comedy. But this movie like has
Leif:serious domestic violence stuff in it.
Steve:so that's really strange because I understood the
Steve:premise of the movie to be this. The
Steve:generational acceptance of these
Steve:things ends here.
Leif:Yes.
Steve:So like it. I. And I.
Leif:But she's like using it to promote her like all her
Leif:other side products that she promotes or
Leif:Betty Booze and. And like marketing as like
Leif:kind of, you know, America sweetheart rom com type
Leif:thing. And so
Leif:apparently also Ryan Reynolds
Leif:uncredited rewrote several
Leif:scenes.
Steve:Oh wow.
Leif:And she's the one who got final cut because
Leif:she got. Ryan Reynolds apparently befriended the
Leif:author and got her the author on Blake's
Leif:side. And so they use Blake's final cut, not the
Leif:director who originally bought the rights to the
Leif:project. So there's a lot of vaccine politics going on.
Steve:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Leif:So either one of two things, either this guy was
Leif:inappropriate, which I think we should know about, or, you
Leif:know, Blake and Ryan are just using it. Heavy
Leif:politics.
Steve:Yeah.
Leif:And abusing their power.
Steve:Yeah.
Leif:but. And then because that, all these other things are, you
Leif:know, resurfacing about Blake and everyone's
Leif:talking about, you know, her. Her wedding at a
Leif:plantation and how she had like a blog
Leif:about antebellum, stuff. And so her new
Leif:nickname is kind of Antebellum Barbie.
Steve:That's not a good look.
Leif:No, no, definitely not a good look. And
Leif:like some, some interviewer who
Leif:didn't release the interview at the time with. With Blake and
Leif:Parker Posey being like really rude to the
Leif:interviewer for like no reason. And so
Leif:she released that this past week.
Steve:I've said over. And I always say that
Steve:people don't get to the positions they're in without
Steve:stepping on some necks along the way. And
Steve:like, you know, I'm no
Steve:longer shocked and I'm no longer ready
Steve:to be like, well, fuck that person when I hear about
Steve:a famous person that's
Steve:fucking someone else over in one way or another.
Steve:Because like, I feel like that's. The
Steve:industry is just built especially.
Steve:Especially when you take a 16, 17, 18
Steve:year old kid and give
Steve:them this kind of m.
Steve:Influence and money
Steve:when they're that young, you know, like, it really goes to the
Steve:head.
Leif:And well, Blake Lively had it from even before that
Leif:because she's. She was a nepo baby all the way.
Leif:Who were her, I mean, she just got rich
Leif:parents that kind of put her in position to be where she
Leif:is.
Steve:So, I mean, similar to Taylor then, right? Wasn't that kind
Steve:of,
Leif:No, Taylor was just. She
Leif:had not wealthy parents, but
Leif:just kind of forced her into acting.
Steve:Okay, okay.
Leif:Blake's parents, like, literally, like she had a PR team
Leif:at 10.
Steve:Oh, yeah. Yeah. And so like, but
Steve:like, and that's, that's just exactly my point.
Steve:That, that all she knows is how to get
Steve:ahead. Yeah. In an industry that is
Steve:cutthroat. Like, she's been raised to know how to do
Steve:that. And like, I, can't
Steve:just be like, wow, I'll never watch any of her
Steve:stuff because of that. Because that's
Steve:everything we watch. Is somebody doing that pretty much at
Steve:this point, you know.
Leif:Well, today we are here to talk about season
Leif:two, episode 11, the Magnificent
Leif:Archibalds. And this, originally aired a little bit before
Leif:Thanksgiving on November 17, 2008.
Steve:Yes. And this is also available for you to
Steve:watch on Tubi. Jill, my mother in law, who I
Steve:know listens to every episode, who has never seen the show
Steve:Tubi. T U B I. You can download
Steve:the app onto your new TV and you
Steve:can listen to it. Love you.
Leif:Yes, thanks for listening. You didn't know. in the U.S. if you're in the U.S.
Leif:they recently dropped Gossip Girl on Tubi.
Steve:Yeah. And. And Tubi isn't paying
Steve:us to say this. They're allowed to. We'll
Steve:gladly take your money, Tubi. Yes, but,
Steve:but we're. We want people to watch the show. I
Steve:mean, we want you to watch along with us. So download
Steve:Tubi on whatever you download. Apps
Steve:to and watch Gossip Girl with us, if you're not already.
Leif:And I actually re. Recently posted on Threads, though, so if
Leif:you people go ahead and go answer that, I ask
Leif:the question, where do you watch either? Is it on Tubi or is
Leif:it on Max?
Steve:Yeah.
Leif:Or do you have the DVDs? Are you a super fan?
Steve:Yeah, exactly.
Leif:Let us know the title on this movie. this episode was
Leif:based on the movie the Magnificent Ambersons.
Leif:Orson Welles, written and directed, starring,
Leif:Tim Holt, Joseph Cotton, and Dolores
Leif:Costello.
Steve:Never saw it. heard of it. And I mean, I feel
Steve:like the Magnificent
Steve:has also been used
Steve:many other times as well. You know, like.
Leif:But I think this. Thematically, this one, this sort of
Leif:fits. I mean, at least I haven't seen it. But based on the
Leif:short synopsis, which is a spoiled
Leif:young heir to the decaying Amberson
Leif:fortune comes between his widowed mother
Leif:and the man she has always loved.
Leif:Yeah. You know, kind of parallels with Nate.
Steve:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Leif:This episode was written by our buddy Josh
Leif:Saffron, who is, like, definitely firmly
Leif:in Scots in the writers room. And he will
Leif:eventually become the showrunner. It's not quite official yet,
Leif:but, I.
Steve:Mean, I'll say this. If
Steve:this was his audition piece for showrunner, he would
Steve:get it.
Leif:Yeah.
Steve:Like. Like, oh, my God. On this
Steve:episode.
Leif:But yes, previously he's done, of course, Bad News
Leif:Blairs, Seventeen Candles, High Society, and Women on
Leif:the Verge was. That was probably his weakest episode.
Leif:And then in the second season,
Leif:he's already done two episodes. He
Leif:did the stronger of the Hamptons episodes, which was the first episode of the
Leif:season. Some are kind of wonderful.
Steve:Oh, right.
Leif:And then also he did the episode where they all went to Yale. New
Leif:even.
Steve:Yeah. Which was one of the better episodes. That was
Steve:one of. That was kind of the season that finally. The episode that
Steve:kind of finally got this going. Yeah,
Steve:yeah, yeah.
Leif:Directed John, De
Leif:Sagn, which I'm probably butchering
Leif:that name completely.
Steve:It, says Jones here.
Leif:Jean de Jones.
Leif:Sign on. Sign
Leif:right. Right in. Let us know, John.
Leif:Or set us an audiogram.
Leif:this is his first of three, Gossip Girl
Leif:episodes. But he is a career TV director,
Leif:including, like, two or three TV movies, but mainly did a lot
Leif:of procedurals, including 50 plus
Leif:episodes of Law and Order. S video.
Steve:Yeah. And I mean, the. The writing did most of the
Steve:work in this. Yeah, you know, the. The writing
Steve:and certain actors did most of the work
Steve:in this.
Leif:The directing wasn't bad, but it didn't stand out at all.
Steve:Yeah, yeah. It was like there Wasn't much to do. I
Steve:felt. I didn't feel like there was much to do for the director because
Steve:it was so well
Steve:written.
Leif:Yeah, yeah. Just a lot of emotional scenes.
Steve:Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Leif:I mean, I guess there was some good, like, close angles
Leif:for the conversations.
Steve:Yeah, Give him props there.
Leif:So we've been. I've been going back and forth
Leif:on recaps. I felt like the.
Leif:The Wikipedia recaps were just kind of boring, and
Leif:then the tells you without pity ones were a little too
Leif:long. So I found a Vulture recap. It's
Leif:like, it was just one paragraph, so we're gonna go with that.
Steve:All right, let's try that.
Leif:And so this is not my words, and I'm pretty sure I'm just gonna
Leif:preface. I'm pretty sure the author is a gay man.
Leif:There is a comment that I wouldn't have made myself, but
Leif:more power to him. It's Thanksgiving already.
Leif:We kind of leap forward in time, which is weird because we've
Leif:become accustomed to Gossip Girls holidays coinciding
Leif:with ours. But like many of the characters in this
Leif:episode, we will try to set aside small,
Leif:petty material grievances and instead focus on
Leif:the many things there were, to be thankful for in this
Leif:episode. Among them, Dorota's
Leif:ringtone, a random reference to Phosphon
Leif:Binder. I think it should be Fastbender, but it
Leif:says binder. The annoying familiarity with
Leif:Aaron Rose and the long, lovely moments of the camera
Leif:spends lingering pornographically over Blair's
Leif:dad's famous pie from last year, which she presents
Leif:to her, and the gayest ever picnic casket,
Leif:which harkens us back to last year's Barfs
Leif:giving episode. And remind us, as we enter
Leif:a holiday season, of the fact that the Gossip
Leif:Girl has been on our lives for an entire year.
Leif:And we will hope for many more years to
Leif:come. Way to go, Vulture.
Steve:Yeah. Wow.
Steve:All right. Barf's giving really got me
Steve:that.
Leif:Yeah, that's also a little, e.
Leif:Well, yeah. but yeah, Vulture is not
Leif:known to hold back.
Steve:Live your life, Vulture.
Leif:And we go into Act 1. We
Leif:get a bit of a Thanksgiving
Leif:themed montage of New York City, and we
Leif:get the monologue. For the rest of the
Leif:country, Thanksgiving is where families come together
Leif:to give thanks. But on the Upper east side, the
Leif:holiday thankfully returns to its roots.
Leif:Lying, manipulation, and
Leif:betrayal. And from what we hear,
Leif:just like the Indians, someone else is
Leif:being pushed out of their home.
Steve:You're a little cringey there, Gossip Girl.
Leif:As they walk the halls of contents, Blair is
Leif:complaining To Serena about Cyrus and his family,
Leif:including Aaron invading her penthouse. Blair
Leif:is still calling out Aaron for sucking.
Steve:How are you going to introduce him to your mom? Udvr. Big
Steve:love, right?
Leif:Very timely.
Steve:Yeah, it was. It was very timely.
Leif:Rip Bill Paxton.
Steve:Oh, yeah. Yeah. Another
Steve:great way for Blair to just start the
Steve:episode right there.
Leif:Yes. So Dan walks
Leif:up to Blair and Serena looking for Jenner.
Leif:Jenny. Blair walks away with a nice little zinger.
Leif:Serena and Dan share a nice moment. I like that they have
Leif:settled into an actual friend space. Hopefully they
Leif:can keep them here for a while.
Steve:Yeah. When he walks
Steve:up and she's like, oh, she has better taste than
Steve:I thought. I tried.
Leif:As the conversation breaks up, Nate bumps
Leif:into and then apologizes to Dan, who is
Leif:still giving Nate the cold shoulder.
Steve:Such a dick here. Like, Dan,
Steve:get over yourself.
Leif:Yeah, I guess they're just playing the trope of
Leif:the older brother being protected.
Steve:Yeah. And. Yeah.
Leif:So. So. Yeah.
Steve:Yeah.
Leif:So last century.
Steve:Yeah, I. Exactly. And Dan in this whole
Steve:episode, I just. Is just such
Steve:a. Idiot.
Leif:Really?
Steve:I think so. I, Why
Steve:do you talk to your girlfriend's ex? Like, why? You don't
Steve:open your mouth that much. To you? I mean, what, to your
Steve:girlfriend's boyfriend or your ex's? There we
Steve:go. Nailed it.
Leif:Chuck seeing Dan Disney tries to manipulate the
Leif:situation into winning Nate back. However, just as Dan blew
Leif:Nate off, Nate does the same to Chuck.
Steve:Yeah, but Chuck was also an.
Leif:Oh, yeah, he was. But I think he was doing that because he. He thought
Leif:he could kind of manipulate the situation because he thought, like, oh,
Leif:Nate's, you know, has. No. And now I can. I could be
Leif:a dick. And now he's forcing.
Steve:Yeah. Yeah, I. I gathered that too.
Steve:Yeah.
Leif:Typical, you know, abusive relationship.
Steve:Yeah. Yep.
Leif:Wait, from Chuck Bass, Jenny
Leif:with Eric in toes. Meeting with a lawyer or someone along
Leif:those lines. Learning for the process of Involved
Leif:in becoming emancipated.
Steve:Wait, you're gonna tell my parents that I'm no
Steve:longer their daughter?
Leif:Yeah, just. I can't believe she thought she could just do it without them
Leif:knowing.
Steve:Yeah. Like, how do you sneak emancipate
Steve:yourself?
Leif:Dan and Vanessa are discussing Vanessa's lonely
Leif:Thanksgiving plan, so Dan invites her to the little loft
Leif:for dinner. Vanessa agrees to come since Jenny is still
Leif:MIA Speaking of which, Rufus storms in
Leif:to announce that Agnes's mother hasn't seen Jenny in a
Leif:week.
Steve:Yep. And Dan says
Steve:he's. She's been hanging out with Eric.
Steve:Snitches. Right there.
Steve:Again, caught.
Leif:Busted. I mean, she's missing. I
Leif:think it's it warrants telling.
Steve:I, I mean, I, I just. My, my thing
Steve:is that I never really felt Dan was. Oh,
Steve:totally on Jenny's side because now Jenny's hiding from Dan
Steve:too. You know, if, Dan didn't know where she was,
Steve:but Dan now knows she's okay. I'm just saying that
Steve:Dan.
Leif:I, I have no issues with that.
Steve:Yeah, I, I mean, I don't really. It just goes back to.
Leif:And also he has no idea that she's hiding from.
Leif:She just look. Looking for her.
Steve:Yeah.
Leif:No issues there. Lily and Bart
Leif:arrive home from their vacation and Lily receives a rude
Leif:call from Rufus looking for Jenny. However, Lily
Leif:sees Jenny's stuff and tells Rufus that she has to
Leif:call him back.
Steve:Yeah, I, I love Lily this whole
Steve:episode, as always. And I, and I love
Steve:the. I love the whole like, no, I haven't
Steve:seen her.
Leif:What do you think?
Steve:She's staying here and like,
Steve:I'll call you back. And. But also Rufus
Steve:with the phone call in the first place, just being like
Steve:angry and yelling at Lily, who answered her
Steve:phone, who has no idea what's going on.
Leif:Nate and his mother are walking into a friend's
Leif:place where they are staying. Ann has a surprise for
Leif:Nate. Daddy's home. with new
Leif:facial hair.
Steve:That. That beard in the first. And like
Steve:that the pseudo arrow Flynn.
Steve:Like.
Leif:Oh, he's doing the. I think he thinks he's living in Cuba.
Steve:Yeah. Yeah. It was so bad.
Leif:just like Nate Archibald, Gossip Girl has
Leif:family waiting for her today. So although I'd love to stay
Leif:in chat, I'm signing off until Thanksgiving
Leif:dinner. Just in time for pie.
Leif:Coffee.
Steve:Surveying the Dabbage just like last
Steve:year. Yep.
Leif:Oh, yeah.
Steve:Yeah.
Leif:So, yeah. she takes off her Thanksgiving.
Steve:Yeah, she takes off for Thanksgiving. I noticed that.
Leif:We move into Act 2. It seems like
Leif:Howie is back in New York to invite Ann and Nate
Leif:to come back to Dominica with them.
Steve:Yeah, putting more shit on Nate
Steve:Parent. The worst fucking parents on the
Steve:show are dumping more on their already
Steve:fucking buried kid.
Leif:Well, until we learn what his actual plan is, I think this is
Leif:actually. I mean, if he really wanted to just bring them with him to live
Leif:with them, I think that's a decent move.
Steve:They're homeless here, but it's still putting on
Steve:him the decision of now you can leave
Steve:all of your friends and family,
Steve:everyone that you know, and come live like a criminal with
Steve:me in Dominica. I still don't think that's a
Steve:good offer to your kid. You. Because now you're still
Steve:making your Kid a criminal. If he complies, he
Steve:can. He can't come back. The second he ever comes
Steve:back to the United States, he's arrested. You know,
Steve:like, it's still a lot to put on a
Steve:kid.
Leif:Yeah. Lily is meeting with Rufus, who
Leif:reveals that Jenny has been staying with Eric in
Leif:secret while Lily and Bart were away. Lily
Leif:advises Rufus to let her talk to Jenny first.
Leif:Rufus caves to Lily and offers some advice to
Leif:Lily about how Jenny likes her sweet
Leif:potatoes.
Steve:The correct way. The absolute correct way,
Steve:the only way.
Leif:And is there someone cutting onions on this pier?
Steve:Yeah.
Leif:Cause I teared up.
Steve:Yeah. Oh, there were a few times the,
Steve:first time through there. Yeah. With the
Steve:marshmallows thing. I love how Lily handles Rufus.
Steve:I love how she talks him down. I love how
Steve:she. She. How she plays the grown up. When
Steve:you have calmed down and you're ready,
Steve:then I'll. I'll mediate this. But
Steve:you have to calm down, too. She is with
Steve:family. She's with my family. Robin and I have
Steve:an ongoing feud because Robin likes
Steve:candied walnuts on top of her sweet
Steve:potatoes, and I grew up with
Steve:marshmallows. And so this is an ongoing
Steve:battle that I have a microphone and
Steve:she doesn't.
Leif:So I'm going to side with Robin on this one,
Leif:because I'm not a child, Steve.
Steve:I have no defense to that.
Leif:Yes.
Leif:Blair and Serena are talking on the phone,
Leif:and we get Blair's advice to Serena. Remember,
Leif:Serena doesn't share as well as Serena's vice to Blair.
Leif:Remember, Blair should learn to.
Steve:When Serena was like, oh, man, he said he was out
Steve:with someone earlier, and I think, was he kissing this person?
Steve:Like, Serena, this is what you signed up for?
Leif:Yeah.
Steve:Like, you. You were the one who was like, this is what I want.
Steve:I'm going to sign up to be in this relationship.
Steve:So that's how they work. Yeah.
Leif:But Blair is absolutely right. Serena doesn't share.
Steve:No. Yeah. Blair's absolutely right,
Steve:Serena. And. And I think that that really
Steve:is the heart of where my
Steve:sarcasm from that comment comes in is that
Steve:Serena didn't go into this being excited about an
Steve:open relationship. She went into a competition
Steve:that she was trying to win. And, you know, we'll
Steve:see how that works.
Leif:Eric returns to the Vanderbass penthouse to find
Leif:Bart home early. Eric sends a quick text to
Leif:Jenny to avoid the penthouse, but he hears her phone buzz
Leif:unattended on the counter. Eric mentions things
Leif:not going so well with Jonathan. Aw.
Leif:Bart responds to. Eric asks Jonathan about
Leif:the captain of the swim team.
Steve:Weird. Yeah, weird. Yeah.
Steve:And ask him where they were on
Steve:Friday night. Yeah. Yeah. Bart
Steve:spilling some tea about
Steve:Jonathan. But, like, how the hell did she know about.
Steve:Yeah, yeah.
Leif:Well, we find out pretty quick because Eric is excited that
Leif:Chuck is also home and getting a shave from
Leif:the maid for some reason.
Leif:Because he's Chuck Bass.
Steve:Yeah, because he's Chuck Bass and he can get a shave from
Steve:a maid. I'm Chuck Bass.
Leif:Chuck. It reveals the bar has a PI on retainer.
Leif:Watching everyone even adjacently connected to their
Leif:family.
Steve:Yeah, my plans for the evening got hung up in
Steve:customs.
Leif:Was he just gonna get, like, baked,
Leif:like, really, like, stunned or something?
Steve:Yeah. Oh, my God.
Leif:or was he getting another international hooker?
Steve:Yeah, well, that was. My assumption was international
Steve:hooker.
Leif:Why would a hooker get held up in customs?
Steve:I mean, what. What is she bringing with her for?
Steve:Chuck? Why is he flying a block of hash?
Steve:Yeah, yeah, Like a block of hash and
Steve:some sex toys that are only illegal in,
Steve:like, six countries.
Leif:Serena is getting her home cooked meal from Aaron, who
Leif:unpropped, and declares he is now a one woman
Leif:man. Aaron also reveals that he is
Leif:sober. This leads Serena to bend the truth about her
Leif:own relationship with alcohol.
Steve:Yeah, I mean, yeah, this didn't she.
Leif:Learn from her last relationship.
Steve:I, have that note somewhere in here,
Steve:and it's not even on this scene because she just does this the whole
Steve:time. Yeah, like, oh, you don't drink. Cool. I
Steve:won't drink around you. Like, that was all he was. That
Steve:was all he was actually asking for. He
Steve:wasn't even saying, like, I can't be with someone who
Steve:also drinks. He's like, you know,
Steve:I can't be around it. You know?
Steve:Like, she could very easily say, oh, you know what?
Leif:Cool.
Steve:I won't drink around you. Or I. I'll stop.
Leif:I. I feel like Serena is
Leif:what's sometimes called a chameleon.
Leif:Yeah, they just kind of take on the person. She did the same
Leif:thing kind of with Dan. Like, oh, she's now, you know,
Leif:staying home and studying instead of going out partying.
Steve:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Leif:And now she. Now she's sober, all of a sudden.
Steve:Yeah. Yeah, exactly.
Leif:Lily confronts Eric about hiding Jenny
Leif:and more or less orders Eric to bring Jenny back to
Leif:their penthouse to talk with Lily. Is it weird that
Leif:Lily being bossy kind of turned me on?
Steve:No, I get it. I get it. I
Steve:get it. And also, I think Eric is
Steve:just awesome. I love
Steve:Eric. Whenever he's on the show and whenever he's on
Steve:screen, he Was so good in this.
Leif:Blair is once again melting down on Thanksgiving because
Leif:Cyrus is trampling on her traditions like a bull in a
Leif:china shop. Eleanor has her own take charge moment where
Leif:she tells Blair to get with the program because this is her
Leif:new family.
Steve:I don't have a lot of notes on the
Steve:Blair storyline in this, because I really
Steve:just. I enjoyed it. I was along for
Steve:the ride for a lot of it. And other than just
Steve:the very typical notes of
Steve:Leighton's acting and Margaret's
Steve:acting, which are just spectacular
Steve:throughout, I don't have a lot of notes on it. It was
Steve:just a fun watch, you know, I just really enjoyed
Steve:the storyline. I really enjoyed how
Steve:Blair. She got. You know, it really
Steve:was like. Yeah.
Leif:Blair runs off in distress when she meets Dorota
Leif:on the stairs. Dorota spills the beans that Eleanor and
Leif:Cyrus are announcing her engagement at Thanksgiving
Leif:dinner.
Steve:Who do you. Who do you work. Work for?
Steve:Or Dorothea?
Leif:why did she reveal it at all then? Unless she's going to tell. I
Leif:mean, obviously she wanted to tell.
Steve:Yeah, she. She wanted to, like, Blair
Steve:had no idea. Yeah.
Leif:Oh, I have a secret.
Steve:Yeah.
Leif:Of course Blair's gonna know what. Know what it is now.
Steve:Yeah. Yeah. And because ultimately,
Steve:Dorota is always on Blair's side.
Leif:Yes. Jenny is having a chat with
Leif:Lily, and it's nice to see Jenny get some actual
Leif:parenting for once. However, as soon as
Leif:Jenny goes off to bed, Lily takes the opportunity to snoop and
Leif:finds the emancipation paperwork sticking out of Jenny's
Leif:bag.
Steve:I. I really love Lily's handling of
Steve:Jenny and, like, it doesn't go anywhere, this conversation,
Steve:but that's not unusual because especially
Steve:that age, you.
Leif:You don't want to listen.
Steve:Yeah. You don't want to cave to what you're hearing,
Steve:but you still absorb a lot of it, you know?
Steve:And it was such a good. She's so
Steve:motherly to other people's kids
Steve:once again. and she's getting. You know, she
Steve:definitely has become more motherly to her kids
Steve:over the. Over her art. But this is a
Steve:really beautiful, you know, motherly
Steve:conversation here. Yeah, I love it.
Leif:And we move into Act 3
Leif:the next day, Dan and Rufus are doing some last
Leif:minute Thanksgiving shopping, and Dan gives Rufus
Leif:parenting advice. When they bump into Aaron, Dan gets
Leif:a bit of verbal diarrhea and reveals way too much about
Leif:Serena's, quote, problematic
Leif:drinking. However, I think it's more problematic
Leif:how territorial Aaron already is towards
Leif:Serena.
Steve:Yeah.
Leif:Because he just told her, you can still keep seeing
Leif:people.
Steve:Yeah. Yeah.
Leif:And then, like, he like gets
Leif:right up in Dan's face.
Steve:Yeah, well, and so this was my.
Leif:Issue with Dan, but I think that's why Dan. Because Dan got
Leif:nervous because this guy's like attacking him for no reason. So Dan goes
Leif:into verbal diarrhea and just starts feeling stuff.
Steve:See, I didn't really feel there was. I, I guess
Steve:I, I. Because he was like. He called her
Steve:complicated. Right. Dan calls Serena
Steve:complicated. And like Dan's
Steve:original. The. Where everything started out.
Steve:Right. Hey, you. Yeah, she's not really a,
Steve:cheese or fruit kind of person. She. You should get the
Steve:French wine. And he's like, oh, you don't know her that
Steve:well. And he's like, she doesn't drink. And she's. And
Steve:oh yeah. Not problematically, but
Steve:like at that moment. Stop talking.
Steve:When you say oh yeah. Not problematically. You
Steve:have not revealed anything that is
Steve:outside of the scope of the
Steve:conversation you already started. He. Dan had
Steve:Dan pointing to the wines and suggesting taking wine to
Steve:Serena is innocuous. That is what Dan would
Steve:have taken. Because Dan knows Serena better.
Steve:because he wasn't lied to about it. But then when Dan
Steve:goes on to say like the problematic thing
Steve:and when he brings up Georgina
Steve:and he says, well, I'm sure you guys talked about it.
Steve:She doesn't fucking communicate. The whole reason you guys,
Steve:split is because you couldn't communicate. So why do you think she's
Steve:now communicating with this asshole who's no Dan
Steve:Humphrey? Yeah.
Leif:I think in the whole reason why he did that is because he got
Leif:put on the back foot because he was, he was nervous. That's just what Dan does
Leif:when he's nervous. He starts just rambling.
Steve:You're right. He does. Dan does
Steve:that all the time. That is all very classic
Steve:Dan. Just stop talking. But, but like
Steve:that.
Leif:But it's almost like voluntary reaction.
Steve:Yeah. Classic Dan, needs to learn to shut
Steve:the up. Like,
Steve:like it. It's something that he's got. Because he's stuck his foot in
Steve:his mouth many times doing that. And I'm not trying
Steve:to take Aaron's side here because Aaron. Because I don't like
Steve:him from. I don't, I don't like him since, you
Steve:know, he was a 20 year old dating an 8 year old
Steve:to begin with.
Leif:Yes. Do the math, people. Do the math.
Steve:Do the math.
Leif:The writers didn't.
Steve:They did not. Unless
Steve:Cyrus has some secret other
Steve:wife that we never.
Leif:Well, I assume there's another wife in there, but still.
Steve:But they didn't tell us. They just,
Steve:they Told us about one wife, and then they're like, and that's
Steve:my kid. They
Steve:tell us about a wife from Vietnam.
Leif:Well, I mean, he. He got married and. And went right
Leif:off to the war and then divorced her as soon as he got back. And there's. He
Leif:has multiple kids, so.
Steve:Yeah. So were those kids all born before he left for
Steve:Vietnam? Is my. Is my
Steve:question. And, like,
Steve:there's nieces and nephews in.
Steve:At Thanksgiving, Blair gives Eleanor
Steve:one last.
Leif:Chance to reveal the engagement to her first, but Eleanor just
Leif:plays dumb. Blair announces to Dorota that they're
Leif:skipping out on Thanksgiving, which, point
Leif:of fact, is no longer Blair's favorite holiday.
Steve:Yeah. Yep.
Steve:Not anymore.
Leif:Nate is trying to return the Rufus Pixies
Leif:box set, along with a thank you note at the gallery, when he
Leif:runs into Vanessa. Nate tells Vanessa to take
Leif:care of herself. Without Chuck, Dan, or even
Leif:Vanessa in his life anymore. It looks like Nate might
Leif:be leaving the country with Howie.
Steve:Yeah. I mean, God, I
Steve:felt for him here. and if you've watched this
Steve:podcast at all, you know, I'm a huge Nate,
Steve:Stan, and I have been since
Steve:episode one. I feel
Steve:so bad for him here because when he's like,
Steve:Nate really didn't do anything,
Steve:wrong to any of these people who have
Steve:all just fucking turned their back on
Steve:him. Like. Like, he was not in a
Steve:relationship with Vanessa when he started seeing
Steve:Jenny. He was not. You know, Dan
Steve:has no right to be upset over
Steve:him, being respectfully dating his sister at
Steve:that point. Like, there's no reason other than a kiss to be
Steve:upset. Like, and Chuck is just
Steve:turning his back on him for Power Trip.
Steve:He's done nothing real to these
Steve:people. Like, the worst that he
Steve:did was probably to Vanessa
Steve:because he was being victimized
Steve:by another pedophile.
Steve:Like, I felt so bad for him.
Leif:Yeah. Nate definitely gets the short end of the stick quite a
Leif:bit.
Steve:Yeah.
Leif:And good, taste in Pixies.
Steve:Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Leif:Chuck casually sexually assaults Serena.
Leif:Serena ignores this because she needs Chuck to keep his mouth
Leif:shut in front of Aaron about the drinking. And Chuck does
Leif:agree I missed it.
Steve:The first watch the dress
Steve:grab because.
Leif:the show is playing it off as, like, sibling
Leif:bickering, I think.
Steve:Well, and.
Leif:But in reality, it is sexual assault.
Steve:Yeah. And they try to. And they've really painted
Steve:Chuck as this. Oh, that's Chuck. Oh, boys
Steve:will be boys. I also feel like this is an instance
Steve:where you have a man writing, a man
Steve:directing, and the thought of that actually being an
Steve:assault, I bet never Crossed either of their minds.
Steve:I bet they both thought it was flirty and cute, that it was Chuck
Steve:being flirty.
Leif:I don't think it was flirty. I think it was more like a
Leif:sibling type thing.
Steve:Yeah, but he's. Is he or is he not always
Steve:talking about banging Serena in
Steve:one way or another? Like he's always,
Steve:he's always flirting with her a little bit. It's
Steve:like the kid, it's like the kid in that 90s show who's like, I'm always
Steve:farting a little bit. He's always flirting with
Steve:her at least a little bit. I would. In my
Steve:estimation. And if you haven't seen that 90s
Steve:show, that line is pretty much the
Steve:greatest part of the entire second
Steve:season.
Leif:Lisa Low makes an appearance.
Steve:Lisa Loeb. I actually have a fit. I took a picture because,
Steve:because she, because I watched it like shortly after
Steve:we did our whole thing on Lisa.
Leif:Loeb, Aaron arrives and Serena realizes Dan
Leif:already let the cat out of the bag. She lies to Aaron
Leif:and claims Dan is lying out of jealousy. This
Leif:is exactly what Aaron wanted to hear. So he instantly believes
Leif:it. Wizard's first rule.
Steve:Yeah, yeah, she's such a
Steve:bad liar. She's And, and like
Steve:she's a terrible liar. And.
Leif:But yes, the wizard's first rule is people will believe a lie
Leif:if they want it to be true or they're afraid it'll be true. And
Leif:Aaron definitely wants this to be true.
Steve:Yeah, yeah, very much.
Leif:Rufus gets a call from Lily that he needs to
Leif:come to her place immediately. Dan mentions
Leif:Vanessa is coming over, but Rufus says to cancel with her.
Steve:Cold blooded.
Leif:I know we like to shit off Vanessa, but this made me really
Leif:happy because it really shows that Rufus couldn't give a
Leif:fuck about Vanessa and whatever
Leif:weirdness was going on for a few episodes, is now put to
Leif:rest.
Steve:Yeah, I actually felt a little
Steve:bad for Vanessa for this one
Steve:instance because like, her family isn't around.
Steve:She has no fucking family either.
Steve:This is her father figure and this is the person,
Steve:the family that she's adopted. That is all that
Steve:she is holding on to here and has made the comment of like,
Steve:I could just go back with my family. And they're like, no, no,
Steve:stay with us. and she's like. And now it's like,
Steve:no, her.
Steve:Jenny's in trouble. Vanessa. yes.
Leif:Which is good because I, I was getting a little bit worried about Rufus there.
Steve:Yeah, me, me too. Yeah.
Leif:And yeah,
Leif:Vanessa misses Dan's call because she, a well
Leif:dressed man approaches her and asks About Nate
Leif:Archibald.
Steve:Yeah. Bum, bum, bum.
Leif:Now, did you peg this guy's a cop?
Steve:Right away, Instantly. Yeah. Ah. Oh, that's the FBI coming to
Steve:talk about Nate Archibald.
Leif:Chuck gives Eric the code for Bart safe. That looks
Leif:like the end of every heist movie ever made. Eric looks
Leif:past the gold bars in the Sapphire and goes for the family
Leif:dossiers prepared by Bart's PI in the midst
Leif:of this, Chuck gets a call from Vanessa warning him that Nate
Leif:is in serious trouble. Chuck leaves Eric to keep
Leif:digging to.
Steve:Pick up V. I love Eric in
Steve:this scene. like, I. There
Steve:have been times earlier in this show where I kind of shit
Steve:on his acting, and he has really
Steve:warmed up to me. His acting is really warmed up to me.
Steve:And his reaction when they open that and he says,
Steve:like, oh, it's like the end of every ice scene in the movie. And
Steve:he's, like, picking up this sat. But he's like, is that a gold bar? I
Steve:didn't know they actually made those. Like, it was
Steve:just, like, his excitement, and it was just so
Steve:funny and just so cute and, like.
Leif:Yeah, I think that he was definitely well
Leif:casted as a little brother, because he nails that,
Leif:like, enthusiastic younger brother.
Steve:Yeah, yeah, yeah. And, you know, just
Steve:always being the wise sage of, the
Steve:show. He really is
Steve:maybe my favorite character on some episodes. You know,
Steve:he's. I love him in this.
Leif:Yes. Definitely. Back from commercial. Blair and
Leif:Dorota are walking down the street, ignoring Eleanor's
Leif:call. It was unclear on whose phone that was. I think
Leif:it was Dorota, though. Did you catch her ringtone for Eleanor?
Steve:Yeah, I did not. But Robin
Steve:instantly goes, is Dorota's ringtone
Steve:I'm a slave for you by Britney
Steve:Spears?
Leif:And this was back in the day where you had specific ringtones from each
Leif:person.
Steve:Yeah. So her ringtone for
Steve:Eleanor, we can assume is, I'm a
Steve:slave for you, which is such a
Steve:Easter egg. Yeah.
Leif:At the Vanderbass Thanksgiving, Serena is
Leif:introducing Aaron to Lily. Serena
Leif:deflects the offer of a glass of wine. Lily
Leif:is impressed with Aaron's knowledge of art. And Serena
Leif:realizes those pretty little heels she likes to wear are tough on
Leif:the feet without her typical one or three glasses of
Leif:chardonnay.
Steve:I love Bart's reaction because
Steve:Bart. Bart, like, I think at this
Steve:point, a quarter of Bart's dialogue in
Steve:Gossip Girl is building to be. What's he doing
Steve:here?
Leif:It's not the scene yet. Oh, it's not?
Steve:No. What is Bart reacting to in this scene?
Leif:He's not in the scene at all.
Steve:Oh, you're right. I jumped ahead.
Leif:Jenny and Eric are looking through Eric's file, but
Leif:Eric is too afraid to open Lily or Serena's as
Leif:they are five times the size of his. Jenny asks
Leif:Eric if he has seen her emancipation
Leif:papers.
Steve:Yeah. Oops. I do love them working together, you
Steve:know, I love, I always love Jenny
Steve:Eric interactions.
Leif:Are they, are they actually brother and sister? He's got those Rufus
Leif:roots.
Steve:Yeah.
Leif:The look on Bart and Aaron's face is When Rufus and
Leif:Dan arrive at the penthouse is priceless. However,
Leif:Lily ushers them in and shows Rufus the emancipation
Leif:papers. Dan, just along for the ride, says a
Leif:casual hello to Mr. Basset Aaron, who reboots
Leif:him.
Steve:Yeah, yeah, let's go.
Leif:What did I do?
Steve:Yeah, yeah.
Steve:And this is where Bart where like, I think, I
Steve:think by the end, by the however long,
Steve:you know, we have Bart Bass that by the end of this
Steve:show he is going to have a quarter of his
Steve:dialogue will be, what's he doing here?
Leif:I mean, he does keep showing up.
Steve:He does keep showing up. Like unfair
Steve:for Bart to keep asking because Rufus keeps
Steve:showing up to shit that there is no reason for. He's
Steve:becoming Bart's Vanessa.
Leif:I assume Bart is aware that, Jenny is there. So I
Leif:mean, you should sort of, kind of expect him to be.
Steve:I agree.
Leif:Like, you would just like pick her up or.
Steve:I don't know. Yeah, yeah. But also I
Steve:can understand him just every time we're doing
Steve:anything as a family, this fucker shows up
Steve:mad. Usually mad.
Leif:Aaron and Dan go to Serena's room to get to the bottom of
Leif:things for once. Dan is actually quick to pick up the social cues
Leif:and takes the blow for Serena.
Steve:Aaron is so like, there's one thing to believe
Steve:what you want to believe, but there's another thing to just be
Steve:fucking dumb. For Dan when he does the
Steve:180, when he's like, oh, you know what? You're right,
Steve:I did lie. You're right, Serena.
Steve:My bad, man. You really shouldn't do
Steve:that, Dan. It's like, thanks,
Steve:Aaron. I won't anymore.
Leif:But good on Dan.
Steve:Yeah. This is where Dan did the right thing.
Steve:But it was, But God, I, I.
Leif:Feel like season Dan would, Season one, Dan wouldn't have picked up on
Leif:that.
Steve:Yeah. Or would have doubled. Would have picked up on
Steve:it and doubled down, you know, would have been like, no, I'm
Steve:not covering for, you know, I, I, I felt like when he
Steve:saw the look on Serena's face.
Leif:That the, like her, it, it Suddenly connected for
Leif:him.
Steve:Yeah, yeah.
Leif:Because I mean like again, back to the
Leif:beginning, the earlier scene, he was just, you know, saying what he
Leif:thought was general knowledge and stuff's all over Gossip Girl and.
Steve:Yeah, yeah, that, yeah, I mean, that part's true. Yeah.
Leif:So yeah, like, soon as he realized what was going on, he's
Leif:oh. Yep. I was like, oh, I was lying.
Steve:Yeah, got me.
Leif:Well, shucks.
Steve:Yeah, you shouldn't do that.
Leif:Aaron leaves for the Waldorf party and we get another nice
Leif:friendly conversation with Dan and Serena. However, the conversation
Leif:is short lived as Eric bursts in with a bundle of
Leif:files in an arm. And I like, I like the,
Leif:you know, they're, they're being good friends here.
Steve:Yeah, yeah. I really loved the, the
Steve:rest of that interaction and I loved Eric bursting in
Steve:and being like, well, it's out of the bag. Yeah.
Leif:Chuck and Vanessa have lured Nate into meeting with
Leif:the well dressed man from earlier who is now
Leif:revealed to be an FBI agent in pursuit of the
Leif:captain. The agent reveals that the captain's
Leif:planning on blackmailing Ann's family. Nate
Leif:as a Sophie's choice of helping his father escape and
Leif:probably never seeing him again or turning him into the.
Steve:FBI or poor dumb fucking
Steve:Nate putting this thing together like, like just watching him
Steve:like it's like the meme with the woman with
Steve:all the math equations in front of her face that
Steve:he's like, wait a second, like trying
Steve:to pieces together, but oh my God. once again,
Steve:you, you know, just feel terrible for this poor kid.
Leif:Yeah, this is where it definitely got really rough for me.
Steve:Yeah, we're like, you know, I still think
Steve:that asking your kid run away
Steve:with me to the Bahamas, to
Steve:Dominica, and leave everything behind and now
Steve:be a fugitive with me is too much to ask of a
Steve:kid. This is even worse.
Leif:I, I, it's, it is too much. But I, I still
Leif:am not overly bothered with that. If he was, if that was the honest
Leif:thing because he's giving him the option like I, I have to leave.
Steve:Do you, do, do you want.
Leif:To be a family or do you want, I mean, we're just, yeah, never see
Leif:me again.
Steve:Yeah. But then the more you dig.
Leif:But yeah, he definitely had ulterior motives.
Steve:Yeah.
Leif:And then Anna was definitely in on it too.
Steve:Yeah. And yeah, gross.
Leif:Rufus finally gets his head out of his ass and
Leif:tries giving Jenny some simple understanding and
Leif:love. However, it might be too late as Jenny
Leif:takes the emancipation papers and leaves the
Leif:penthouse.
Steve:Yeah, Rufus, well done.
Leif:Why couldn't be done this? Four episodes Ago.
Steve:Yeah, this should, yeah, I mean, this.
Leif:Should have been after this f. After the fashion show. This is
Leif:what the true reaction should have been.
Steve:Yeah. If it had been, you would not
Steve:be here right now. Yeah, exactly. If you had been, your daughter right now
Steve:would be signing big fucking contracts
Steve:and be bringing in money that you could never bring in with your
Steve:shitty music career. I also, her hair in this
Steve:whole episode, I, ah, was like, is that a
Steve:wig? Is that a wig? And I feel like in this scene it
Steve:was longer. Like, I felt like
Steve:Jenny's hair was, first of all a wig,
Steve:and second of all inconsistent throughout the entire
Steve:episode.
Leif:So I believe this is when
Leif:Taylor Bumpson decided to cut her hair
Leif:herself.
Steve:I think you had mentioned that when she first came in with crazy
Steve:hair.
Leif:Yeah, I forget exactly when it
Leif:happened, but. And then the stylists in the
Leif:show just kind of had to do what they, they could.
Steve:Yeah. And like, so I felt like when she first came
Steve:in with the new look that it looked like that.
Steve:Like, but this episode, it was like
Steve:that now looks like a wig. because it looked
Steve:inconsistent. It didn't. It was just her
Steve:hair. Let me just say this. Whether I, if I'm wrong,
Steve:I'm wrong. That's fine. Her hair was a distraction
Steve:to me in this episode.
Leif:See, I felt it worked when she had the makeup on, but
Leif:then when she was out at the end of the episode when she didn't have the makeup on, it
Leif:didn't quite work for me.
Steve:Yeah, that too.
Leif:That like, yeah, it just, it looked punk rock when, when she had all the makeup
Leif:on. Yeah, I, I liked it.
Steve:Yeah.
Leif:But, yeah, when it was just like, clean, clear, clear.
Leif:Jenny.
Steve:It was, didn't, it was, yeah, it was off putting. Yeah.
Leif:Lily, file folders in hand and flanked by
Leif:her children, comes downstairs to confront Bart.
Leif:Lily takes her family and leaves Bart
Leif:looking morose. Smells like someone's shit in
Leif:his cereal bong.
Steve:My note here is that I do
Steve:believe Bart Bass
Steve:believes he's doing the right thing
Steve:by monitoring his family. I
Steve:believe that he thinks having a
Steve:dossier on his kids.
Leif:What do you what he said there? If you're gonna let your kids
Leif:go out and do whatever they want, you should have someone watching
Leif:their backs.
Steve:Yeah. Yeah.
Leif:Sort of makes a little bit of sense.
Steve:Yeah. I, I, there, there's,
Steve:there's. I think I would be more confident, I'd be more
Steve:comfortable if my kids knew that, there was someone there
Steve:watching their back. I, I, I
Steve:always feel that Bart is
Steve:ruthless, but Bart really does what
Steve:he thinks is right.
Steve:To protect his family and
Steve:his business. And, and with the exception of
Steve:the murder, we all know that he covered up that, that
Steve:he's which, that
Steve:but like aside from that, like Bart
Steve:monitoring and doing these background checks,
Steve:like I, it's invasive, it's wrong.
Steve:I don't feel that in his
Steve:morality he's doing it maliciously.
Steve:I believe he's doing what he thinks is the right thing to do.
Leif:Yeah, I agree. Nate confronts the captain about his
Leif:plan and gives his father a Sophie's choice of
Leif:his own.
Steve:yeah, because the dumbfounded
Steve:look on the captain's face, like he
Steve:looked, he, he looked like the, the boxer, the
Steve:first boxer in Mike Tyson's punch out the. What's it
Steve:Joe something Joe. That when you hit him he's
Steve:like. That was the look.
Leif:Gabby Joe.
Steve:Yeah. Jabby Joe.
Leif:yeah. Well that's because I think this is
Leif:all Anne's plan. I think how he's too stupid to
Leif:come up with this himself.
Steve:Yeah, yeah. yeah, because he,
Steve:because if he was doing this plan, he would have screwed it up
Steve:even worse because Anne has made it quite clear
Steve:that Eric.
Leif:And Lily are once again eating a Thanksgiving dinner
Leif:consisting of diner fries. Serena having left on
Leif:some mysterious errand, Eric reveals that he did
Leif:look at Lily's file and has a go at her for not telling
Leif:him she spent time in an institution. However, the
Leif:jive is short lived and as always, Eric is
Leif:wise and kind hearted soul.
Steve:This really made me reflect because I never really put the two
Steve:together. But as well
Steve:documented, there is a very
Steve:high suicide rate of the among the
Steve:LGBTQ AI
Steve:community.
Leif:And unfortunately.
Steve:Yeah, I, I, as I was watching this and
Steve:it occurred to me for the first time that I
Steve:wonder if that was something that
Steve:played into Eric's original
Steve:hospitalization. That, that if
Steve:because, because clearly he was struggling with telling his
Steve:mom there was a struggle there within him.
Steve:And so that just kind of made me have a, another
Steve:kind of sympathy for Eric there, you know?
Leif:Yeah, I would definitely, I
Leif:feel it definitely would have contributed to the isolation which I think
Leif:is the main source of his depression.
Steve:Yes, I, I completely agree.
Leif:Definitely think that contribute at least a little bit.
Steve:Yeah, I, I felt like that could have that
Steve:just having reflected watching this scene, it made me
Steve:think that that could like you said, could
Steve:contribute to that loneliness.
Leif:Serena arrives at the Waldorf penthouse looking for
Leif:Aaron, but sends a quick text to Blair,
Leif:who has still not returned home to a worried
Leif:Eleanor. Serena hands her file over to
Leif:Aaron and then gives Eleanor Blair's location
Leif:before wishing everyone a happy Thanksgiving
Leif:and exit stage left.
Steve:I understand. For the purposes of the
Steve:scene, why not call her? But it just,
Steve:like, could you call Blair? Yeah. Ah, I'll send her a
Steve:text, lady. Like, cool your jets. I'm not
Steve:calling her.
Leif:It was very convenient timing. Like, just text all the way
Leif:in and get the, answer on the way out.
Steve:Yeah. Yeah.
Leif:So it worked.
Steve:It worked for the timing of the show. Like, I did
Steve:that.
Leif:and that's probably why it might have. It might have been a call of
Leif:the script that suddenly could have been.
Steve:Changed to attack to make it just
Steve:float. Yeah, I mean, it did make the scene just flow.
Steve:Boom, boom, boom.
Leif:Yeah. A crying Jenny runs into
Leif:Blair and Dorota. Blair gives Jenny some tough
Leif:love and points out how much Rufus actually cares
Leif:about Jenny. Eleanor shows up looking for
Leif:Blair, who will only come home if Jenny agrees home.
Leif:as well.
Leif:Amazing scene, all three of them. Oh, my
Leif:God.
Steve:I. Yeah, my allergies kicked in.
Steve:I, got really dusty on my face. Like, it
Steve:was so good. Eleanor,
Steve:when. With the hands. With the hands on
Steve:Jenny's face. Oh, my God.
Steve:Like, she was such a mom.
Leif:She wraps the Shaw around her.
Steve:Yeah. Blair and Jenny and their interaction, like, your dad will
Steve:go anywhere. And I know because I've made him do
Steve:it. Like, oh, my God, that scene
Steve:just killed.
Leif:It's great.
Steve:Yeah. I mean, that. That. That belongs
Steve:on a top 10 highlight reel of
Steve:Gossip Girl scenes so far. It's
Steve:amazing.
Leif:Yeah. We shift back to the arch balls where
Leif:Howie is finally doing the right thing. The FBI
Leif:put the captain and cuffs in front of a sabbing Yan
Leif:who is comforted by her son.
Steve:I've got to give it to Howie in this. Like, that. That
Steve:acting, the. The. The emotion, the.
Steve:The way that he just. And also just for doing the
Steve:right fucking thing. Finally.
Leif:For.
Steve:For him finally doing the right thing. And, right up
Steve:to the opening the door and the spin
Steve:with the hands behind and kind of, you know, just kind of
Steve:falling into the. The, like, the cops there
Steve:when he turns around and just kind of leans into
Steve:them. I just thought he played this scene.
Steve:I don't think he's ever done anything remarkable
Steve:as an actor. He didn't really have much to work
Steve:with until right now.
Leif:I will say he plays a weasel very well. He
Leif:does. It's a very believable weasel.
Steve:Yeah. He's done his job this whole show.
Steve:This was a moment where I saw him
Steve:actually break into
Steve:acting. It was just. It was
Steve:so powerful. The whole goodbyes
Steve:and Too. And was really good too. But. But
Steve:Howie just really landed this
Steve:scene. If there was also a scene in this that I would
Steve:credit, the directing, it would be this one. The
Steve:blocking, the timing of it. Like
Steve:this scene was really paced well.
Leif:And of course it goes to a commercial break.
Leif:We come back, Chuck and Vanessa find Nate
Leif:reinstated back into his house. Very fast
Leif:work. Like in the middle of the
Leif:night.
Steve:You know that those. Well, I'm just. I just imagine that
Steve:dickhead cop from that first episode being
Steve:there like. Yep. Yeah.
Steve:Was this easy all along.
Steve:just have to sign this one thing and you can have everything
Steve:back. Except electricity.
Leif:Yes. And then we get Nate and Vanessa, share a
Leif:moment and set it down with plans for a date.
Leif:And then Vanessa pieces out. So Nate and Chuck and Sherry
Leif:Broman.
Steve:Yeah. Yeah. Is the nature. Ah.
Steve:Finally happening. That's my m. I hope that
Steve:Because she keeps getting worse like every time you think
Steve:like Vanessa. Because like I've always said Nate
Steve:makes Vanessa more bearable. And
Steve:now by the. By the end of this one.
Leif:Well, yeah, in first season she made her bearable
Leif:because Vanessa in the first season was. Even though she was annoying,
Leif:she's essentially a good person.
Steve:Yeah, she. Yeah, she was. Yeah, she was a Debbie
Steve:Downer. But.
Leif:And she. She gave Nate gave her another reason to
Leif:be part of the group besides just Dan.
Steve:Yeah.
Leif:So that's why Nate made her. But now Vanessa is a shitty person,
Leif:so fuck her.
Steve:Yeah. Yes, exactly.
Leif:Back at the Waldorf penthouse, it's revealed that Eleanor's
Leif:surprise is that Harold is in town after all.
Leif:Eleanor wanted to get Harold's approval of Cyrus before
Leif:announcing the engagement. other Cutesy.
Steve:My God. Blair's face. When. When she walks
Steve:in before we have the reveal, when she
Steve:walks in and we see her face. Oh my
Steve:God. It's just. It. She just lights up and it was
Steve:just such a cool. Again, just Leighton
Steve:Meester being a fucking powerhouse. But just the way that
Steve:that was shot was really good.
Steve:yeah. And also kudos to Eleanor
Steve:and Harold for their co parenting to
Steve:be like before I could marry this person,
Steve:I needed your father to meet them
Steve:and know that this is going to be your stepdad.
Leif:Yeah.
Steve:Like that was beautiful to me. I
Steve:wish.
Leif:I mean because at the other day they are still friends and the reason
Leif:they broke up was purely because of sexual
Leif:incompatibility.
Steve:Yeah. Yeah. And yeah, they. They love
Steve:each other and it's platonic
Steve:now. and honestly platonic more for him.
Steve:Like she. She was a year
Steve:ago, she was struggling with Letting this
Steve:go. She couldn't. She couldn't forgive him a year
Steve:ago. And now here she is.
Leif:She's found love again.
Steve:Found. Found love again. And able to, I
Steve:loved it. I love everything about that.
Leif:And I love Cyrus's influence on Eleanor
Leif:too.
Steve:Yes. Yeah. Yeah. I. Yeah.
Steve:Yeah. I think he's doing quite
Steve:a bit, but honestly, not enough.
Leif:And then Dan and Rufus arrive
Leif:home to find Jenny at the law and
Leif:a display of dramatism on brand for a
Leif:teenager. Jenny is waiting the dark emancipation
Leif:papers in the ass so she could just tear him apart.
Steve:Yep.
Leif:That's so overdramatic.
Steve:Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like with the hands
Steve:on it waiting for. Yeah. I
Steve:mean, but. But it was also. Yeah, but honestly,
Steve:if I was. That would have been me.
Leif:If I was totally on ramp for a teenager.
Steve:Yeah, absolutely. Also my note here is. You're
Steve:crying. Like at this
Steve:point in the show. I was fucking done. Like father,
Steve:daughter, stuff like that just is gonna get me
Steve:and father. You know, it just. It's gonna get me every
Steve:time.
Leif:You used to a jerking off motion.
Steve:No, I did a stab in the heart motion.
Steve:Stabbing.
Steve:It's. Let's
Steve:clarify. If I'm stabbing,
Steve:I'll twist.
Leif:Aaron comes to Serena's room and hands the
Leif:file folder back to her. Unright. It
Leif:looks like Aaron and Serena are stronger than ever. We have
Leif:to come up with a ship name for them. Irina
Leif:Saron.
Steve:Sauron. Sauron.
Steve:Nailed it. And one licorice ring to bind
Steve:them all.
Leif:Yeah, I guess.
Leif:Yeah, maybe Aaron's a series regular. Regular going
Leif:forward.
Steve:Oh, God damn it. God damn it. No.
Leif:You know, we got. We have Cyrus. Does that mean we have to keep
Leif:Aaron too?
Steve:How many episodes have. Because. And because it's
Steve:beyond his three episodes too. So now he's. I feel like he's
Steve:locked in for six at a minimum.
Steve:But come on, don't he. He doesn't need
Steve:to join the cat. He doesn't need to. Everybody.
Leif:Although it would be kind of funny if you and dad.
Steve:How did this happen?
Leif:It's like themselves.
Steve:That's how it happened.
Leif:Somehow he can masturbate with another person.
Leif:Lily and Eric and unfortunately Vanessa all
Leif:arrive at the Humphrey loft. Serena is invited, but not
Leif:Bart. Jenny and Vanessa make up, at least for the
Leif:moment.
Steve:Yeah. I couldn't think of anywhere that felt more like
Steve:home.
Leif:Ouch. Bart.
Steve:Yeah. She left her home.
Steve:Because your house. Your. Because your
Steve:Brooklyn loft felt more like home.
Leif:And what's been a. That is her. That was her home, from
Leif:before marrying Bart.
Steve:Right? Yeah. Yeah, that's. What I meant. Like, she left. She left her
Steve:actual home. Yeah. Where Bart is now
Steve:living.
Leif:Not looking good for Bart.
Steve:Not looking good for Bart.
Leif:Dan pushes a pile of Jenny's mail across the
Leif:counter, but Jenny steps away to help Rufus,
Leif:allowing Vanessa to sneak a peek at Jenny's mail.
Leif:Vanessa finds a letter to Jenny from Nate.
Steve:She's so fucking grimy. She was even grimy
Steve:before. Like, her grime started before the
Steve:finding and taking the letter. Right. The griminess
Steve:started when. When Jenny said, oh, I don't think he
Steve:even likes me. I haven't heard from him. Oh, yeah. You know,
Steve:and she's like, m. And.
Leif:And now she's willing to forgive Jenny because she has a date.
Steve:Yeah, exactly. She's willing. Yeah. So
Steve:grimy.
Leif:As promised, Gossip Girl returns in time for dessert and
Leif:delivers some parting remarks over a sequence of
Leif:scenes. Vanessa is staring at the letter, and
Leif:Gossip Girl begins. As the end
Leif:of another holiday draws near, I'd like to take a
Leif:moment to list all the things I'm thankful for.
Leif:Chuck and Nate are cheersing in the back of Chuck's
Leif:limo. Gossip Girl continues. I'm
Leif:thankful that no matter how dark things might get,
Leif:old friendships can still be rekindled.
Leif:Serena and Aaron are chatting in bed. I'm
Leif:thankful for new relationships that help us realize how
Leif:far we've come from who we were.
Leif:Blair and Harold are sharing pie amidst the
Leif:Rose family and how close we get when we
Leif:can really be ourselves. The Humphreys, plus Lily, Eric
Leif:and vessel, sitting down to dinner. And I'm
Leif:thankful no matter what they say, can
Leif:go home again, whether it's your home or not.
Leif:And then Bart Bass is parked outside the loft and calls his
Leif:PI Andrew Tyler. Gossip Girl's narration
Leif:stops as we hear Bart tell Andrew that, he changed
Leif:his mind and wants to know who Lily
Leif:was, why Lily was in the sanatorium.
Leif:And Vanessa gets up from the table to, quote,
Leif:unquote, call her folks. Gossip Girl
Leif:continues. But the thing I'm most thankful
Leif:for, even on the most giving of days, people
Leif:can still do something unforgivable.
Leif:Vanessa has stolen Jenny's letter, and now that she
Leif:sees a bit, has a bit of privacy, opens and
Leif:reads it. Signed, steeled, and delivered. I'm
Leif:yours. XOXO
Leif:Gossip Girl.
Steve:Also, are we still saying sanatorium?
Leif:Bart Bardis.
Steve:Bart is.
Leif:But yeah, but is
Leif:it. Of, note that the Gossip Girl stopped
Leif:when we shifted to Bart, the guy who seems to
Leif:know everything about everyone.
Steve:That is interesting. That is really
Steve:interesting. The guy who knows everything about
Steve:everyone. Yeah.
Leif:And I did take a snapshot of the letter. At least
Leif:I got the second page. And it says, but
Leif:I can't hide the way I really feel about
Leif:you. The emotions are too strong
Leif:for me to just pretend they don't
Leif:exist. I think about you all the time.
Leif:I don't see. Can't really see that word. But
Leif:that your brother knows
Leif:about us. I have to. Something away
Leif:from you. I'm guessing stay away from you.
Steve:And then.
Leif:Yeah, I want to.
Steve:Yeah.
Leif:Basically Steve say he loved her, but he couldn't because
Leif:the dad.
Steve:Yeah. Yeah.
Leif:But maybe if she got it, they could have found some way to meet up and figure
Leif:it out.
Steve:Yeah. Yeah, she could have gone. Maybe she could have
Steve:worked it out with Dan. You know, because I mean,
Steve:as much as Dan was angry at Nate,
Steve:I feel like Jenny could also talk reason.
Steve:Yeah. And pointed out like, hey, you. You
Steve:are protecting me by letting me date a really good
Steve:guy.
Leif:Of course.
Steve:Dan's.
Leif:The whole thing with like Dan, like right when he finds out
Leif:that Nate is kissing his
Leif:sister, he also finds out that he's a prostitute
Leif:for someone.
Steve:Well, he had. Well he remembered that, you know, he found
Steve:that out first. Right. He.
Leif:They found it out like right at the same time. Basically he got, he got.
Leif:He saw the blast. Or like, he found out about Nate. Like, and
Leif:ah, then, like that same day, that's when he got the blast showing
Leif:Jenny he knew Nate was.
Steve:A prostitute when he. Because Vanessa told
Steve:him the whole story.
Leif:Yeah, right before like that same day he found
Leif:out. That was earlier that same episode.
Steve:No, there's the, the episode where Vanessa where they're
Steve:on the rooftop, right? When Nate
Steve:goes off with Catherine and Dan turns
Steve:to her and goes, nate a gigolo? Who would have thought
Steve:Dan knew before Nate ever moved in
Steve:about that.
Leif:Well, I guess the writers forgot because he was definitely surprised when Vanessa
Leif:told him again in the episode, where he found out about
Leif:Jenny.
Steve:I didn't really. I didn't realize that because.
Steve:Yeah, because he definitely. She definitely told him
Steve:when Nate and Vanessa first broke up because he
Steve:referred to Nate as a gigolo on the roof.
Steve:And to me his whole thing was,
Steve:yeah, Nate's a good guy. He was just caught up in
Steve:this situation. But the second he likes his sister,
Steve:oh, well, that guy's a prostitute. You know, it's.
Steve:It's sort of the It took me back to the. He's a good
Steve:guy as long as he's not dating your sister. Which
Steve:was Dan's opinion of Nate.
Steve:Even though Nate really was a fucking victim
Steve:of in that whole thing.
Leif:Anyways, that is it for our episode.
Leif:Any predictions?
Steve:I'm, interested to see where the storyline
Steve:goes with Jenny. I do
Steve:predict. I felt like that scene with Dan and
Steve:Serena was leading to Dan and
Steve:Serena having more
Steve:conversations. I feel like now that they're not
Steve:dating, they're talking more, and I feel like
Steve:that's leading somewhere. You know what I mean? Like,
Steve:which. Which I think is good. I feel like that is.
Steve:That is a good thing for them. Bart,
Steve:I feel, is on shaky ground.
Steve:And like, Lily going to Rufus is
Steve:something. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Leif:Why didn't you stay at the diner like last year?
Steve:Yeah, stay at the diner or kick Bart out of your
Steve:house. That's yours. Tell him you
Steve:have a penthouse at a hotel that you can stay in. Go
Steve:there. Charles can stay if he wants
Steve:to.
Leif:So let's go ahead and get into some segments.
Leif:We hopped into the Wayback Machine to go to
Leif:this week in Phantom. to visit the message boards from
Leif:2008.
Steve:Hello there, Peabody here.
Leif:And this is the Wayback Machine for traveling through time.
Steve:And this is my boy, Sherman. Speak
Steve:German. Hello. Good boy.
Leif:Not much going on this week. Basically,
Leif:Vanessa deserves to find a new definition of pain and suffering
Leif:as she is slowly digested over a thousand years.
Steve:Yep, yep, yep.
Leif:Thanksgiving episodes are the best. A real tear
Leif:jerker. And Erin is a creepy douche. So
Leif:those kind of the big three takeaways.
Steve:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Leif:Why get jealous? You just told her that she can still
Leif:see other people.
Steve:Yeah.
Leif:And then you're immediately getting jealous for no reason.
Steve:Yeah, when someone she's not seeing.
Steve:Yeah, I could understand that a little more if he
Steve:was a teenager, but
Steve:he's, like, nearing 30, if not past it.
Steve:Be a little more grown up than that.
Leif:Moving on to episode grades. I went first
Leif:last time, so you're up first this week, Steve.
Steve:I gave this episode an A. I
Steve:loved it. there was. I. There was a moment that took
Steve:it from an A plus to an A for me, and I can't even remember what
Steve:it is off the top of my head. I thought this episode
Steve:was well written, well acted,
Steve:well directed. I. All of
Steve:the storylines. Even though I don't like the
Steve:Aaron storyline, it was well written and
Steve:well done. I think Aaron is the reason that it went from A
Steve:plus to an. To a solid A because of how dumb he
Steve:was and how, like, oh, well, that whole
Steve:scene. But ultimately, I gave this episode an
Steve:A. It was fantastic. I'll go as far as to say
Steve:this is. Might be my
Steve:favorite episode so far. At least
Steve:it's in the running. It's one of the, I think,
Steve:top three episodes so far.
Leif:Yeah, I'm right there with you. I gave it an A as well. The
Leif:writing was terrific. The acting was phenomenal.
Leif:Special shout outs to Margaret Leighton
Leif:and Taylor.
Steve:Yeah, I, I mean, that, that's.
Leif:That seed at the end was the seat of the episode, obviously.
Leif:And yeah, I won't say this is the best episode of the series, but I definitely
Leif:think it's the best episode this season so far.
Steve:Yeah, for sure. This season. And I'd
Steve:say that it's in the running with, like, the Thanksgiving
Steve:episode from last year. The. The thin
Steve:line between Chuck and Nate.
Leif:I mean, Poison Ivy is the one. We both keep a.
Steve:Poison Ivy. Yeah, Poison Ivy.
Leif:So I think that. I think that's still the high, high mark for the series.
Steve:Yeah. Yeah.
Leif:Moving into stock watch, who you got going up,
Leif:Steve?
Steve:Nate. I have Nate going up
Steve:for, you know, everything that happened with
Steve:him. Getting his friends back, getting his dad to,
Steve:to go in. I also gave the captain a stock up for
Steve:the first time because he did the right thing in the end.
Steve:Despite all. I'm forgiving all of the
Steve:other shitty stuff that you were doing in the beginning of this
Steve:episode because you finally, finally
Steve:did the right thing in the end. So I'm giving you a stock up,
Steve:Captain. I gave Chuck a stock up.
Steve:I gave Rufus and Jenny for getting it
Steve:together and coming together finally. I gave
Steve:Lily for everything she did to help
Steve:out in this episode. Eric, his stock went up
Steve:because Eric is just fucking awesome.
Steve:Eleanor's stock went up. Harold and
Steve:Cyrus. And I think that
Steve:is everyone I had going up, you might say.
Steve:I felt like so many people went up, in this episode.
Leif:This is definitely a big up. I had all
Leif:those. But I also gave Serena up
Leif:because, I mean, she's in the relationship
Leif:she apparently wants to be in and she has good friend moments
Leif:with Dan. So, and then also I gave Dan up because he,
Leif:you know, he had a little verbal diary at the beginning, but again, he was
Leif:just talking about things that he thought was common knowledge.
Leif:And then as soon as he figured it out, he picked up
Leif:on it and he took the bullet for Serena, so I gave
Leif:him up as well. But all the same ones. Nate,
Leif:Jenny, Rufus, Blair, Eleanor, Lily,
Leif:Harold, Cyrus, Eric and Howie.
Steve:Yeah. Yeah.
Leif:Who do you got going down?
Steve:I sent Dan down for opening his mouth.
Steve:I just. Because Dan with the herbal
Steve:diarrhea created a situation that didn't need to
Steve:be there, but I think it's good that he did. But Aaron, for
Steve:being fucking dumb and for just
Steve:existing. Vanessa, for being grimy and
Steve:for having no friends and for having no one that actually loves her.
Leif:Anyone else?
Steve:no. That's it for going down for me. This might
Steve:be also, one where you say someone that I'm like, oh,
Steve:yeah.
Leif:So I had Bart because
Leif:damn, he just.
Steve:Oh, please add Bart for me. I'm sorry.
Steve:Yeah, I actually meant to add Bart because he lost
Steve:everything.
Leif:Yeah. He could have had it all.
Steve:Yeah.
Leif:Aaron because Problematic,
Leif:creepy, territorial.
Leif:And because she tried to organize this
Leif:whole thing and it failed and she's just a
Leif:whiny little baby now. And Vanessa for the
Leif:same reason she had.
Steve:Yeah, yeah, yeah. But here's
Steve:the best outfits from the.
Steve:Last episode we've seen.
Leif:Who did you have for best outfits, best
Leif:outfit?
Steve:I had Chuck's black suit with that
Steve:red tie. I thought Chuck looked really
Steve:sharp. And so that was my best outfit today.
Leif:For me, I like Jenny's red and black plaid
Leif:shirt dress by Dolce and Gabbana.
Steve:I'm glad you picked that because that was in my running
Steve:for my favorite stuff. I really liked it
Steve:too, but I went to Chuck,
Steve:so.
Leif:Well, anything you want to plug this week?
Steve:This is coming out at the end of October,
Steve:so I don't think that I have anything
Steve:scheduled right now that isn't already done. I
Steve:think that I already played my
Steve:Lockhaven show. I've been watching
Steve:the Expanse and I, I'm going to pseudo plug
Steve:that. It's, has some really good
Steve:story in it. It's also got some really bad
Steve:writing. Like, like I, I go back and forth in
Steve:certain parts of it because there's, there are a couple
Steve:characters that are just why I watch the show
Steve:at this point. and the other kind of plug that I wanted to
Steve:give is I wanted to issue an apology to
Steve:Taylor Mumpson because I have on the pretty
Steve:reckless a lot and
Steve:I've only ever listened to their singles. And
Steve:this past week I was like, you know what? That's not
Steve:fair. And I listened to their first
Steve:three albums and they're
Steve:really fucking good. I'll stand by.
Leif:They're all talented musicians.
Steve:Yeah, they're. They're all really talented. I, I
Steve:struggled with the lyrics of their singles and I still
Steve:stand by that. I, stop trying to make Pocket of
Steve:Jive happen, whatever that means. But
Steve:like, but you know, I don't, I still don't love
Steve:the that some certain
Steve:songs come out that I've heard they're singles,
Steve:but damn, they can fucking write a song and they
Steve:can, they can rock and they can play it. So
Steve:my B. Yeah, and I, yeah.
Leif:I follow her on social media so she just looks like she's having so
Leif:much fun. So.
Steve:Yeah.
Leif:Glad she's having her best life.
Steve:Yeah, she always. I do too. And she, like
Steve:you said, she always looks like she's just living
Steve:the rockstar life and fucking loving it. And
Steve:I just, I really admire that.
Leif:For me, I am, very late to this party. I've
Leif:been binging. This is us.
Steve:Oh, I see. I'd watched some of the first season
Steve:and it was just like,
Steve:really?
Leif:It's got me like tearing up like every other episode.
Steve:Exactly. It was like
Steve:a show to make Robin cry every week. And it
Steve:just got to a point like after a few episodes I'm like, this
Steve:is just too much for me. I just found
Steve:it way like too much.
Steve:And yeah, yeah, not, not
Steve:dissing the show. It just, it became
Steve:a lot for me.
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Leif:Definitely. And we will be back next week to talk
Leif:about season two, episode 12,
Leif:it's a wonderful lie.
Leif:Oh, the Max episode description
Leif:reads lair and Chuck make a bet at the annual
Leif:snowflake ball. Didn't we just do that storyline?
Steve:Didn't we just do that storyline?
Leif:Three episodes.
Steve:I'm going to throw the over under on, how
Steve:many Blair and Chuck make a bet
Steve:episodes we've got.
Steve:We're halfway through season two.
Steve:About almost halfway through season two. So
Steve:I'm going to say there's Going to be
Steve:ten more by the time this
Steve:series closes. Ten more. Blair
Steve:and Chuck make a bet. Fair
Steve:assumption we should mark that down
Steve:somewhere. But that's going to be my. That's one
Steve:of my predictions.
Leif:Okay.
Steve:At least 10. My over underline is we're at.
Leif:We're at 2 now.
Steve:Officially, we're at 2.
Leif:Or does the, pilot or the first
Leif:episode of the season. Is that cow too now?
Steve:Eight.
Leif:Three words. Eight letters. Say it and I'm yours. That count as a
Leif:bet?
Steve:That's more of a bribe. That's more of,
Steve:like, extortion, I feel.
Steve:Right. Like, do this or.
Leif:Yeah, I guess. Well, we'll find out next time.
Leif:Until then, you know you love us.
Steve:XOXO Every time you
Steve:walk away and run away you take a piece of me
Steve:with you there every
Steve:time you walk away or run away m you take a piece of
Steve:me with you there
Steve:every time you walk away or run away you take a
Steve:piece of me with you there
Steve:oh, it seems I'm walking right to
Steve:your door.
Steve:My.
Steve:Heart'S still resting looking for something
Steve:more
Steve:are you ever gonna see everything you mean to
Steve:me I'm trying really hard to believe
Steve:every time you walk away or run away you take a piece
Steve:of me with you there
Steve:every time you walk away or run away you take a
Steve:piece of me with you there
Steve:every time you walk away or run away you take a
Steve:piece of me with you there
Steve:never feels right when I'm out here on
Steve:my own
Steve:I left last night and it feels like
Steve:way too long
Steve:are you ever gonna see everything you mean
Steve:to me I'm trying really hard to believe
Steve:every time you walk away run away you take a piece
Steve:of me with you there
Steve:every time you walk away or run away you take a piece
Steve:of me with you there
Steve:every time you walk away or run away you take a
Steve:piece of me with you there.
Steve:Come back to me
Steve:smile and you'll make my life
Steve:complete
Steve:every time you walk away or run away you take a piece
Steve:of me with you there
Steve:Every time you walk away or run away you take a
Steve:piece of me with you there ah
Steve:Every time you walk away or run away you take a
Steve:piece of me with you there
Steve:every time you walk away or run away you take a piece
Steve:of me with you there
Steve:Every time you walk away or run away you take a piece
Steve:of me with you there
Steve:every time you walk away and run away you take a
Steve:piece of me with you there
Steve:every time you walk away or run away you take a
Steve:piece of me with you there.
Steve:Every time you walk away or run away, you take a
Steve:piece of me with you there.