Ghost | S1E13 - Retromade

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Hello, hello, I'm Katie and welcome to Retro Made, your pop culture rewind.

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Let's take another trip down memory lane.

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Today we travel back to July of 1990 to

discuss one of Patrick Swayze's biggest

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hits, just in time for spooky season.

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Ghost!

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excited to have Chad Robinson and

Lizzie Haynes from the Retro Movie

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Roundtable podcast joining me today.

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The Retro Movie Roundtable is great

at deep dives into movies of all kinds

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of genres and varying time periods.

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And I was lucky enough to join

them to discuss Mystic Pizza.

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So you guys will have to check that out.

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Chad, Lizzie, thank you

so much for joining me.

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Tell us more about

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you and your show.

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Lizzy: Hey, thank you

so much for having us.

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Yes.

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so retro movie round table, like

you said, you said it perfectly.

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It's a movie podcast that explores

movies of all different genres.

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the only contingency is it has

to be at least 10 years old,

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and I'm the rookie of the group.

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Chad is one of the OGs and, so yeah,

he can, he can jump in and probably

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fill in any blanks that I'm missing.

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Chad: Yeah, we just celebrated

our five year anniversary, so we

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got started in October of 2018.

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And, it, it's been great.

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Like Lizzie said, we

brought her on last year.

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She's been wonderful.

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She's a fellow horror fan, so

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Lizzy: Yes.

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Chad: paired up quite a bit

and that's always great.

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That's my favorite genre.

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I'm up here in Pittsburgh with

our founder, Russell Guest.

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So Russell is the, he's the man for this.

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He's the one he probably

reached out to Katie.

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Katie: Mm

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Chad: He'll be reaching

out to other people.

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I know he's hooked up with other

people from, from your network as well.

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We had a great guest for

Gladiator, so that was fun.

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Katie: Yes, Ryan.

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So Ryan.

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he's kind of our, our boss man,

so to speak of the last of the

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action heroes podcast network.

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And so I joined him on the Rocky

show, but he has all sorts of

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shows and he's, developed a whole

network of action hero podcasts.

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And so, yeah, I loved

the gladiator episode.

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Chad: Oh, great.

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Katie: well, horror season,

that's perfect for you guys then.

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We're in

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October now, so that's great.

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Lizzy: Yes,

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Chad: it's the best time of the year.

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Lizzy: it is.

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Katie: And congratulations

on the five year anniversary.

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Chad: you.

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Thank you.

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Katie: in part, like, I feel

like a lot of people start and

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don't, don't make it five years.

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So that's fantastic.

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shall we get into the retro frame of mind

by opening the time capsule from July of

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1990?

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Lizzy: Yes.

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Chad: Let's do it.

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Katie: I gotta say, from a TV

standpoint, it's a stellar lineup.

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I mean, I almost don't

know where to start.

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So the top shows in terms of Nielsen

ratings from the 89 to 90 season, we have.

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I mean, The Cosby Show, Roseanne,

Cheers, A Different World, The

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Golden Girls, The Wonder Years,

Empty Nest, and Who's the Boss.

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I mean, those are all really good.

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Did you guys watch those?

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I know you guys are, well, I know

Lizzie, you're for sure definitely

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younger than me, and Chad, you're

probably younger than me too, but still.

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Syndication, all those

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Lizzy: Yes, I'm probably

the baby of the group.

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I was an 88 baby, so I definitely

wasn't watching any of those

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shows when they first arrived.

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But I think what's so great

particularly about all of the shows

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that you just mentioned is with the

exception of a couple, like they've

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really stood the test of time.

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Like The Golden Girls is the One,

golden Girls and Cheers are the

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ones that really stand out to me.

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And as an adult, I've developed an

affinity for them, especially Golden

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girls like Betty White, who doesn't

love Betty White, like she's the best.

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Katie: I'm so, I just need more women to

come on the show because it really is.

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It's such a fantastic show and obviously

cheers, but I mean, in the Cosby show

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is to Roseanne, I mean, all of these,

I watch Roseanne and syndication.

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Who's the boss of Tony Maselli?

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The Wonder Years is one

that hasn't come up before.

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and it has a very, to me, like

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the theme song.

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it gives sort of like

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Lizzy: Yes.

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Katie: with the theme song.

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It gives me this homesick feeling

and like time, times of yonder

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that's both lovely, but also I get

sort of homesick at the same time.

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It's odd.

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Does anybody

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else have this?

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happen.

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Chad: Oh yeah.

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Yeah.

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That Joe

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Lizzy: Yeah.

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Chad: just takes you back to

childhood, or do you just.

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Picture, simpler times

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Katie: Yeah.

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Chad: I, I miss it.

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I wasn't allowed to watch.

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I, I was six, so I wasn't

allowed to watch a lot of these

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shows, particularly Roseanne.

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my parents kind of had it in for

Roseanne, so I caught up later.

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cheers was a big one though.

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That was a big hit for us.

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America's Funniest Home

Videos was a big thing at this

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Lizzy: Yes.

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Chad: time too.

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family actually sent in a tape

to America's Funniest Home video.

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We didn't get chosen,

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Katie: what

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Chad: but

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Katie: what, what

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was the tape?

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Do you

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Chad: so

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it's, it's, this is fun.

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This is nice and embarrassing.

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So it's my sister and I in the

bathtub when we were little, tiny

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kids I get this weird face and

my parents say, what's wrong?

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And my sister chimes in and she goes,

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pee peed in the bathtub.

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Lizzy: Oh my goodness.

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Chad: my parents sent this

in it, it got rejected.

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But we have this lovely

letter from the producers, so.

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Katie: uh, Danny Tanner was hosting?

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Um,

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Chad: Yeah.

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Bob SST himself.

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Katie: Yes.

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Chad: Yep.

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Katie: Yeah.

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Chad: Yeah.

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And

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Dave Calo was, he was competing.

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He had the other one that was, it

was sort of close to the same title.

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Katie: oh, I don't think I knew that.

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Chad: Yeah.

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They both had home video segments.

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He had a, a Jackalope sketch.

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Katie: Okay.

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Well, so the, the, so there's

also some really notable

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finales and premieres from 1990.

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Since these are a little older.

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I mean, I, I was in 19, I was nine.

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So, but also a lot of

these way before my time.

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I'm just a very old soul, lots of

syndication watching, but do you guys

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recall any of, so these ended in to

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seven.

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Alf you ever,

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Chad: Yes.

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Katie: I,

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I thought

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Chad: that that is a

messed up finale of Alf.

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Katie: I don't actually

remember The finale, but

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Chad: government wins.

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Katie: Really?

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Oh

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Chad: Yes.

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take him away to a facility.

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Lizzy: Aw.

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Katie: Oh, that,

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Chad: Yeah.

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Katie: sad.

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Chad: There's a lot of

those dark childhood

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ones like dinosaurs ends

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by the entire world being wiped out.

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That's the finale.

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Katie: I

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Lizzy: No way.

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Chad: all waiting.

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Katie: but I didn't realize

that was the finale of

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that.

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Well, no, no Shiny,

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happy ending for nineties.

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Chad: is a different time.

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Yeah.

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Katie: just the 10 of us.

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It's a little less known,

but Oh, I loved it.

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It was a

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spinoff of growing pains.

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Have you guys heard of this?

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Lizzy: Yeah, I've heard of growing

pains, but not, not of the spinoff.

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Chad: right.

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Katie: listeners, please

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tell me you

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Chad: I.

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Katie: watched just the ton of us.

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It was so good.

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So coach Lubbock from growing pains.

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That's so that's the spinoff he moves.

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He, so that's in like Long Island, I

think, but the spinoff is that he and

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his family moved to California and

he works for this all girls Catholic

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school and they're very Catholic.

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there's 10 of them.

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So the, him and his wife and

then eight kids largely around

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there's four teenage daughters.

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It's a fun time.

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They have like a singing group, but

you know, supposed to date But some

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of the girls are real boy crazy, and

it's a lot of fun Please somebody

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tell me that you loved just the ten

of us also remote control was that

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MTV game show it ended in 90 new heart

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Mr.

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Belvedere any

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mr.

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Chad: I watched that.

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Lizzy: Yes.

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Katie: my

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two dads I'm sure you've heard of it, at

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least.

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Falcon Crest, which I've never

seen, but it was one of those really

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long running, nightly soap operas.

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then

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Miami Vice, Charles in Charge.

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Lizzy: Yes.

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Katie: Charles in Charge.

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Chad: yes.

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Katie: Mama's Family.

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That seems very early 80s, but I like...

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of the, so a lot of the people

from the Golden Girls are on

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Mama's Family.

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So it's kind of a core

group of actresses in

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the

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Lizzy: nice.

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Katie: Yeah.

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So those ended, then new

shows that started in 90,

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you might, you guys might've

heard of these Twin Peaks,

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Lizzy: Yes.

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Katie: a, yeah.

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And then the Fresh Prince of Bel Air,

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Lizzy: of course.

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Yes.

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Chad: Oh wow.

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Katie: right?

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that was, I loved that.

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Lizzy: It's still a

cultural staple for sure.

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Katie: it is, I think we actually

just talked about it in my

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last episode, we did the thing.

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Lizzy: Oh, nice.

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Katie: one of his favorite like rap

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group was DJ Jazzy Jeff

and the Fresh Prince.

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Lizzy: Yes.

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Katie: yeah.

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And Parents Just Don't Understand

was one of their songs and that

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ended up being the theme song,

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right, of Fresh Prince or parts of it.

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Lizzy: I think maybe part, I know

that it's like the, like from North

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Philadelphia, born and raised.

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I don't know if that,

I don't know if that's

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Chad: West Philadelphia,

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Lizzy: Philadelphia.

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West Philadelphia.

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Sorry.

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Katie: Yes.

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Yes.

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West.

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Lizzy: Yes.

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Katie: West Philadelphia.

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Yeah,

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Lizzy: Yeah, you're living with your

auntie and your uncle in Bel Air.

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That was, we went to a piano bar for my

birthday last month and it was people,

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they were playing all different genres and

someone requested that and they played it.

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It was hilarious.

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It just, the piano, it was great.

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Katie: good request.

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Lizzy: Yes, it was fun.

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Like the whole crowd.

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'cause it was filled

with all different ages.

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But that is one of those shows that

kind of bonds people just, it's it

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managed to stand the test of time.

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For sure.

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Katie: It did.

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also Northern Exposure.

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I'm vaguely familiar with that.

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then a tiny little show

called Beverly Hills

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90210.

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Started in 1990.

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Oh my gosh, those

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kids, they were like 30 playing teenagers,

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but still

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Lizzy: Yes.

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Katie: loved

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Lizzy: Tori Spelling

and Tiffany Amber Thon.

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Oh my goodness.

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That was, so, I watched a couple

of episodes of 9 0 2 1 oh.

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But I . It wasn't a diehard, but

I do credit 9 0 2 1 oh for all

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of the other shows to follow it.

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I feel like they pioneered

the teenage drama and I, so

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I am, I tip my hat to them.

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Katie: Aaron Spelling.

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They had, it was so big.

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I feel like I was in maybe

like fourth or fifth grade.

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people had like the bedspreads,

there was act, there was dolls.

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So we, it was

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like, are you, are you

team Brandon or team Dylan?

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And there was

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Lizzy: Yes,

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Katie: It was just, it was a whole 90210.

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Cartoons.

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Are you guys cartoon kids?

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Lizzy: yes, yes, absolutely.

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Katie: The big ones?

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You guys all have to tell me what

you were watching, but in 90 it

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was Garfield and Friends, Teenage

Mutant Ninja Turtles, Slimer and the

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Real Ghostbusters, and Beetlejuice.

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I don't really remember

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Lizzy: Ooh.

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Katie: Beetlejuice as a cartoon,

but those were some of the

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big ones

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1990.

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Lizzy: I was a Beetlejuice kid.

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Chad: I saw that before

the live action movie,

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Katie: You

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Chad: that was my introduction.

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It's wildly different going to

the live action from the cartoon.

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There's, they're different characters.

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Katie: And, uh, were you a big

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles guy?

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Chad: Oh, of course.

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I'm looking for

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Katie: Do you

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Chad: Where's I?

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do, I've got my little three D printed.

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Leonardo.

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Katie: Oh, cool.

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Chad: I big fan.

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Katie: then there was

some midday programming.

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So those were more in the morning.

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We have WWF wrestling.

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New Kids on the Block

must have had a cartoon.

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I feel like everything had a cartoon.

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Bill and

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Ted.

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Chad: Hammer did?

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Katie: and Ted's Excellent

Adventures must have been a short

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lived Cartoon, Bugs Bunny show.

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And then this was the last

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year for Pee Wee's Playhouse,

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Chad: Oh,

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Lizzy: Man, I was never a peewee kid.

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He always kind of freaked me out.

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Katie: It is, yeah, I, I did

watch it, but I did, I was like,

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there's something a little,

I'm not sure, this is weird,

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Lizzy: Yes.

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It's the laugh, like the ha ha, like it's

just like too much for, I don't know,

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this always rubbed me the wrong way.

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Again,

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Chad: Oh, you just broke Russell's heart.

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Katie: Oh,

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Lizzy: loves the the what?

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What's his movie that he made that every.

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Yes.

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This big adventure.

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Yeah.

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: 00:13:09

Everybody quote, it's apparently

a very quotable movie.

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Never seen it.

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: 00:13:13

It just

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Katie: I feel like I

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: 00:13:14

probably saw it when it

came out, but never again.

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So I

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Lizzy: Yes,

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Katie: very little of it.

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: 00:13:20

was there anything else that

we didn't cover that you guys

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were really into watching

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as kids?

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Lizzy: man.

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: 00:13:26

When did Renin Stimpy come out to me?

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: 00:13:28

I feel like that's, I know some of the

other shows that I really love came out

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: 00:13:33

more, came nineties, but in terms of

early nineties, I remember Renin, Stimpy

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: 00:13:40

being something that felt a little older.

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: 00:13:42

Maybe it was just the

quality of the animation.

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: 00:13:44

Yep.

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Katie: think you're right.

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: 00:13:44

I I feel like it did come

out in the early nineties

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: 00:13:47

and that was sort of when

Nickelodeon was becoming

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: 00:13:50

a thing and all of those, those shows.

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: 00:13:53

And then Nick at night, I remember

watching, I was introduced to a lot of the

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: 00:13:57

Nick at night shows as a kid in the early

nineties or mid nineties the shows from

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like the fifties and sixties

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: 00:14:04

and seventies.

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: 00:14:05

So

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: 00:14:06

Lizzy: yes.

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: 00:14:06

Chad: yeah.

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: 00:14:07

Yeah.

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: 00:14:08

Bewitch, things like that.

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: 00:14:09

I, I love Lucy.

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: 00:14:10

Katie: Okay.

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: 00:14:11

Chad: think for me,

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: 00:14:12

I look this up and I may

be getting the, the year

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: 00:14:15

wrong, but Captain Planet I read was 1990,

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: 00:14:18

Lizzy: No way.

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: 00:14:19

I loved him.

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: 00:14:20

Chad: so that was a big one for me.

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: 00:14:22

Katie: Okay.

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: 00:14:24

Yeah, I can see that.

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: 00:14:25

Lizzy: Captain Planet.

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: 00:14:27

Oh my goodness.

406

: 00:14:28

I love that.

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: 00:14:28

I forgot all about him.

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: 00:14:30

I watched so many of those cartoons.

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: 00:14:32

'cause my brother, I loved that

410

: 00:14:35

Chad: the poor guy with the

monkey at the end, he's heart, on,

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: 00:14:38

everybody else gets a cool element.

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: 00:14:40

You get heart.

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: 00:14:42

Lizzy: Oh,

414

: 00:14:42

Katie: This is

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: 00:14:42

one I'm not familiar with.

416

: 00:14:45

What,

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: 00:14:45

Chad: Really.

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: 00:14:46

Katie: Nickelodeon?

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: 00:14:47

What was it on

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: 00:14:48

Lizzy: ah.

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: 00:14:49

Chad: I, I think it was a

Turner network, like T B S

422

: 00:14:52

Katie: I

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: 00:14:52

Chad: T N T maybe.

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: 00:14:53

Katie: have to look it up because for

some reason it's not ringing a bell, but.

425

: 00:14:57

Chad: It, it was literally a campaign to

just reduce pollution and teach kids that

426

: 00:15:02

everyone was, the villains were like oil

barons or something, and they would just

427

: 00:15:08

mustaches and throw oil into the rivers,

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: 00:15:10

and so,

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: 00:15:11

Katie: totally up my alley because

I'm such a big, environmental

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: 00:15:15

person, you, know, so.

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: 00:15:16

Chad: oh my goodness.

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: 00:15:17

Yeah.

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: 00:15:17

Yeah, you, you have to check this out.

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: 00:15:19

I guarantee you.

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: 00:15:20

It doesn't hold up.

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: 00:15:22

Katie: probably noth not very much does.

437

: 00:15:25

Chad: It was great though.

438

: 00:15:26

Katie: we move

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: 00:15:27

on to the top 10 music billboards from

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: 00:15:30

Lizzy: Yes.

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: 00:15:31

Katie: it?

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: 00:15:31

So it's the literally these were

the top 10 and the week that

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: 00:15:35

ghost came out July 13th, 1990.

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: 00:15:39

The number one song

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: 00:15:42

step by step new kids

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: 00:15:43

on the block.

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: 00:15:45

Lizzy: Yes.

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: 00:15:46

Katie: Oddly enough,

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: 00:15:47

I

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: 00:15:47

Lizzy: by step.

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: 00:15:48

Katie: Yes.

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: 00:15:50

Lizzy: I love that song so much.

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: 00:15:52

I love it.

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: 00:15:53

Yes.

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: 00:15:53

Katie: kids?

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: 00:15:54

Cause you were pretty little, but.

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: 00:15:56

Lizzy: Yes.

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: 00:15:56

That's something that came after for sure.

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: 00:15:58

I mean, I, I think I fell in love with

Backstreet Boys and NSYNC and all of the,

460

: 00:16:02

like they came first, but then just like

9 0 2 1 oh, like new kids paved the way.

461

: 00:16:07

I just found them later in life.

462

: 00:16:09

Katie: Yeah.

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: 00:16:10

Okay.

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: 00:16:10

I like it.

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: 00:16:12

Now, She Ain't Worth It.

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: 00:16:14

Feat.

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: 00:16:15

It's by Glenn Medeiros.

468

: 00:16:18

Not

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: 00:16:18

Lizzy: Hmm.

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: 00:16:19

Katie: pronouncing that

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: 00:16:19

correctly.

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: 00:16:19

Featuring Bobby Brown

is the number two song.

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: 00:16:22

Lizzy: Okay.

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: 00:16:23

Katie: En Vogue Hold On is number three.

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: 00:16:26

Lizzy: Great.

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: 00:16:27

Chad: Yes.

477

: 00:16:27

That's a good one.

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: 00:16:28

Katie: Yes, En It's so very 90s.

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: 00:16:31

I'll Be Your Shelter by Taylor Dayne.

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: 00:16:34

number five song is like

one of my favorite videos.

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: 00:16:38

I remember watching it as a kid.

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: 00:16:40

Cradle of Love by

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: 00:16:42

Billy Idol.

484

: 00:16:44

Anybody?

485

: 00:16:44

Anybody?

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: 00:16:45

Chad: Oh yeah.

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: 00:16:46

Katie: loved it.

488

: 00:16:46

I think that was one, probably

my favorite Billy Idol song.

489

: 00:16:50

Chad: So this is the most

490

: 00:16:51

nineties sentence I can make, make, but

I remember roller skating at the roller

491

: 00:16:56

rink to Cradle of Love,

492

: 00:16:58

Katie: Yeah, yeah.

493

: 00:16:59

Lizzy: Yes.

494

: 00:16:59

Katie: it's pretty 80s as well,

but yeah, that's, oh, it's so good.

495

: 00:17:03

And then, The song from

496

: 00:17:06

Pretty Woman, It Must

Have Been Love, Roxette,

497

: 00:17:09

Lizzy: It's a great song.

498

: 00:17:11

Katie: Yeah, Pretty

499

: 00:17:12

Lizzy: Hmm

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: 00:17:12

Katie: came out in 1990.

501

: 00:17:14

Chad: oh,

502

: 00:17:15

Lizzy: One.

503

: 00:17:16

It's one of my favorites.

504

: 00:17:17

It's so good.

505

: 00:17:19

Katie: it is actually one of the

things that Ghost did and Pretty Woman,

506

: 00:17:24

since they both came out in 1990.

507

: 00:17:26

There's talk that those two movies

being so big, doing so well, kind

508

: 00:17:31

of paved the way for what would

come in all, I feel like the

509

: 00:17:35

90s vomited romantic movies.

510

: 00:17:37

Lizzy: Yes.

511

: 00:17:38

Katie: And so I think

512

: 00:17:38

Chad: Yes.

513

: 00:17:39

Katie: thank Ghost and

Pretty Woman for that.

514

: 00:17:41

Chad: Yeah.

515

: 00:17:42

Here's Meg Ryan in everything.

516

: 00:17:44

Lizzy: Yeah.

517

: 00:17:44

Is there they did such a great job.

518

: 00:17:47

That movie was pretty, woman was perfect

because the, the villain was great.

519

: 00:17:52

You know, your Jason Alexander was

like perfectly slimy and Richard

520

: 00:17:58

Ge was so charming and everybody,

521

: 00:18:01

you either just loved Julia Roberts,

just 'cause you loved her, or you

522

: 00:18:05

like, quite literally wanted to be

the pretty woman, like minus the

523

: 00:18:08

Katie: Yeah, yeah.

524

: 00:18:09

Chad: the the hooking.

525

: 00:18:10

Lizzy: minus her occupation.

526

: 00:18:12

Katie: I didn't really get it,

527

: 00:18:13

you know, I didn't really know when I was,

you know, when I was a kid watching it,

528

: 00:18:17

yeah.

529

: 00:18:17

Actually, and we talked about, Chad and

Lizzie and I talked about, in our Mystic

530

: 00:18:22

Pizza episode, how Mystic Pizza her being

so wonderful in that kind of allowed

531

: 00:18:27

her to become the Vivian in Pretty Woman.

532

: 00:18:31

Lizzy: yes, it's the hair.

533

: 00:18:33

Katie: Oh, yeah.

534

: 00:18:35

And she just, she's great.

535

: 00:18:37

let's see.

536

: 00:18:39

Rub You the Right Way by

537

: 00:18:40

Johnny Gil is the number seven song.

538

: 00:18:44

Chad: I love that song growing up

and or as a kid, but I had no idea

539

: 00:18:48

what they were saying,

540

: 00:18:49

Katie: Yeah, that

541

: 00:18:50

Chad: so

542

: 00:18:50

Katie: a lot

543

: 00:18:51

Chad: I

544

: 00:18:51

slick.

545

: 00:18:52

Katie: Where you're singing along and your

546

: 00:18:53

parents are like, What's,

what's going on over here?

547

: 00:18:57

Chad: I didn't even know it was

called Rub You the Right Way.

548

: 00:18:59

Like Somehow I never caught those

549

: 00:19:01

lyrics, but just the sound and everything.

550

: 00:19:04

Yeah, I'm sure my parents were thrilled.

551

: 00:19:06

Katie: So, we've got two of

the, what band were they in?

552

: 00:19:09

like Bobby Brown and Johnny Gill.

553

: 00:19:10

I'm, my brain is, both in, New Edition.

554

: 00:19:14

It took me a minute.

555

: 00:19:15

Yeah.

556

: 00:19:15

Chad: Oh,

557

: 00:19:15

Lizzy: Ah, yes.

558

: 00:19:16

Okay.

559

: 00:19:16

Katie: separately in the top 10 in 1990.

560

: 00:19:19

Enjoy the Silence by Depeche

Mode was number eight.

561

: 00:19:24

Number nine is The Power by

Snap with an exclamation.

562

: 00:19:29

This might not sound familiar.

563

: 00:19:31

It

564

: 00:19:31

didn't to me anyway.

565

: 00:19:32

Do you know what it is, Chad?

566

: 00:19:35

No

567

: 00:19:35

Chad: draw in a blank.

568

: 00:19:36

Katie: is that I've got the power.

569

: 00:19:40

Dun, dun,

570

: 00:19:42

Lizzy: yes.

571

: 00:19:43

Katie: is so like techno rap

very much permeated the early

572

: 00:19:48

90s.

573

: 00:19:48

And this was, It's like the

epitomizes that I feel like

574

: 00:19:51

Lizzy: It's a great song

575

: 00:19:52

Chad: goodness.

576

: 00:19:52

Yeah.

577

: 00:19:53

Katie: that's what that song is.

578

: 00:19:55

and then poison by Belle

579

: 00:19:57

Biv Devoe.

580

: 00:19:58

Oh,

581

: 00:19:59

that

582

: 00:19:59

Chad: Yep.

583

: 00:20:00

Katie: good.

584

: 00:20:00

Lizzy: such.

585

: 00:20:02

Katie: So

586

: 00:20:02

Chad: That girl

587

: 00:20:03

is

588

: 00:20:04

Katie: singing

589

: 00:20:04

Chad: boy.

590

: 00:20:07

Katie: or no, that's Aisha.

591

: 00:20:07

I'm thinking of Aisha.

592

: 00:20:09

I get those two confused,

593

: 00:20:11

like a, clearly a child that's singing it.

594

: 00:20:13

But it's also good.

595

: 00:20:14

Lizzy: It kind of sounds like the,

it sounds like a little boy at

596

: 00:20:17

some point when he is geez, Ja, me.

597

: 00:20:19

Yeah.

598

: 00:20:20

Like it's a very young, young, young man,

599

: 00:20:24

Katie: they probably were, I, okay.

600

: 00:20:29

There's some news and events that we

ould maybe cover from July of: 1990

601

: 00:20:33

Some big ones, actually.

602

: 00:20:35

so this was like shortly.

603

: 00:20:37

After the Berlin wall fell.

604

: 00:20:39

So there's quite a bit

that has to do with that.

605

: 00:20:42

I don't know what

606

: 00:20:43

month, wasn't that an 89

607

: 00:20:45

Lizzy: it sounds.

608

: 00:20:46

Chad: know Germany was in 90,

but it might've been 89 for the

609

: 00:20:50

wall

610

: 00:20:51

falling

611

: 00:20:51

Katie: they, yeah.

612

: 00:20:52

So to your point, great setup,

Chad, because the German democratic

613

: 00:20:56

republic accepts the Deutsche Mark

as its currency in July of: 1990

614

: 00:21:01

the first

615

: 00:21:02

three tenors concert.

616

: 00:21:04

Featuring

617

: 00:21:05

Chad: Who?

618

: 00:21:05

Katie: Domingo, Jose Carreras

and Luciano Pavarotti

619

: 00:21:09

Lizzy: Nice.

620

: 00:21:10

Katie: of Caracalla, I'm so sorry

for my mispronunciation, in Rome.

621

: 00:21:17

That recording becomes the

622

: 00:21:18

world's best selling classical record.

623

: 00:21:22

Lizzy: Wow.

624

: 00:21:22

Katie: didn't know that

it was only in: 1990

625

: 00:21:25

I thought they went way, way back,

626

: 00:21:27

but the first concert,

627

: 00:21:29

1990.

628

: 00:21:31

Lizzy: I gotta check that out.

629

: 00:21:32

Katie: Fun little tidbit, I was in

Paris in, like, in high school,

630

: 00:21:37

so I feel like this was 98 and

when we were doing our Eiffel Tower

631

: 00:21:42

tour, we were there in the evening.

632

: 00:21:44

It just so happened that, I don't

think it was all three of them, I

633

: 00:21:48

think it might've just been Domingo

634

: 00:21:50

was having a concert on the

635

: 00:21:52

lawn below.

636

: 00:21:54

Lizzy: Stop.

637

: 00:21:54

Katie: happened.

638

: 00:21:55

Lizzy: That's amazing.

639

: 00:21:56

Katie: yeah.

640

: 00:21:58

Boris Yeltsin, president, quits

the Soviet Communist Party and

641

: 00:22:05

Ukraine declares independence.

642

: 00:22:09

Which, so sad, because 32

643

: 00:22:12

years later, was it in 22, that

644

: 00:22:16

Chad: Yeah,

645

: 00:22:16

Lizzy: Yes.

646

: 00:22:16

Katie: them again?

647

: 00:22:19

was a baseball record set in July

of: 1990

648

: 00:22:23

Deion Sanders hits an inside park

homer, that must be really hard to

649

: 00:22:29

do, having an inside the park homer.

650

: 00:22:32

Also Deion Sanders, I had completely

forgotten that he also played baseball.

651

: 00:22:38

Cause

652

: 00:22:38

he's, I know him as a football player.

653

: 00:22:40

Chad: yeah.

654

: 00:22:40

He played both.

655

: 00:22:41

Katie: Yeah, I,

656

: 00:22:42

feel like there was a few people

who did that back in the day.

657

: 00:22:45

Michael

658

: 00:22:45

Chad: Bo Jackson.

659

: 00:22:46

Katie: Bo Jackson

660

: 00:22:47

did too.

661

: 00:22:48

Okay, geez.

662

: 00:22:49

Um, he is actually the

head coach of the Boulder

663

: 00:22:54

CU Buffaloes college football team

664

: 00:22:58

here.

665

: 00:22:59

Chad: He's in the news a lot right now.

666

: 00:23:00

Coach Prime.

667

: 00:23:01

Katie: certainly is.

668

: 00:23:03

Pink Floyd's The Wall is performed

where the Berlin Wall once stood.

669

: 00:23:09

The charity, it was a charity concert

led by Roger Waters with guests such

670

: 00:23:13

as, you know, just little, little

names like Cyndi Lauper, Joni Mitchell,

671

: 00:23:18

the Scorpions, Sinead O'Connor,

672

: 00:23:21

Lizzy: Wow.

673

: 00:23:22

Katie: and Van Morrison.

674

: 00:23:23

And it was actually just the

anniversary of Sinead O'Connor's...

675

: 00:23:27

SNL performance where she ripped

the photo of the Pope in protest of

676

: 00:23:33

abuse at the hands of the church.

677

: 00:23:36

So yeah, lots of Berlin

678

: 00:23:38

Wall associations in this month.

679

: 00:23:41

And

680

: 00:23:42

Chad: Nice.

681

: 00:23:42

Katie: um, your family not

liking Roseanne Barr, she

682

: 00:23:45

she notoriously sings the National Anthem,

683

: 00:23:49

Chad: that's terrible.

684

: 00:23:50

Katie: National

685

: 00:23:51

Lizzy: It was so bad.

686

: 00:23:53

Katie: Cincinnati Reds

San Diego Padres game.

687

: 00:23:56

Lizzy: Luckily she's done some, not

luckily, but she has done some things

688

: 00:24:00

that are, even more embarrassing to

kind of cover up that, that stain.

689

: 00:24:04

She's made some bigger stains, but,

690

: 00:24:06

Katie: Yeah, yeah, pretty recently.

691

: 00:24:09

Lizzy: she's, she's gotten herself

into enough trouble that people

692

: 00:24:11

probably aren't googling that anymore.

693

: 00:24:13

But for the people that have

seen it, it lives rent free

694

: 00:24:15

Katie: Yeah.

695

: 00:24:16

Chad: Yeah.

696

: 00:24:16

You, You cannot blame Ambien for

697

: 00:24:19

that.

698

: 00:24:19

Lizzy: You really can't.

699

: 00:24:20

Katie: even

700

: 00:24:21

Chad: Yeah.

701

: 00:24:22

Katie: I remember.

702

: 00:24:22

it

703

: 00:24:22

Lizzy: she

704

: 00:24:22

Katie: in the National Enquirer.

705

: 00:24:24

I remember, seeing that at

the grocery store, checkouts.

706

: 00:24:27

was surprised by this one.

707

: 00:24:29

So, George H.

708

: 00:24:30

W.

709

: 00:24:30

Bush signs the Americans

with Disabilities Act.

710

: 00:24:33

That was only in

711

: 00:24:34

1990?

712

: 00:24:36

Isn't that surprising?

713

: 00:24:37

Lizzy: is, yes.

714

: 00:24:38

It's wild to think that

that was only 30 years ago.

715

: 00:24:41

Katie: Mm hmm.

716

: 00:24:42

Chad: right.

717

: 00:24:43

Katie: Okay, so Ghost was the number

three movie, at this time, but some

718

: 00:24:49

other big movie we have Die Hard 2,

Days of Thunder, Dick Tracy, and the

719

: 00:24:57

re release of The Jungle Book, and

720

: 00:25:00

then right up y'all's

alley, Arachnophobia.

721

: 00:25:03

Lizzy: Ooh, great movie.

722

: 00:25:05

Chad: yes.

723

: 00:25:07

Lizzy: Nice.

724

: 00:25:08

Chad: Excellent.

725

: 00:25:09

Katie: Yeah.

726

: 00:25:09

Chad: Here.

727

: 00:25:10

Katie: Yeah.

728

: 00:25:10

Pretty good.

729

: 00:25:10

Pretty good.

730

: 00:25:11

lineup.

731

: 00:25:11

okay.

732

: 00:25:12

So before we get into the movie, I

have a few questions for you guys.

733

: 00:25:15

as you may or may not be aware, season

of retro made is built around who

734

: 00:25:21

I deem every men are ultimate every

men, Kurt Russell and Patrick Swayze.

735

: 00:25:25

fandom about either of them that

736

: 00:25:29

you would like to share?

737

: 00:25:31

Lizzy: yes, absolutely.

738

: 00:25:32

I'll start with Kurt Russell 'cause

I feel like I am, have a little bit

739

: 00:25:36

more passion for Patrick Swayze.

740

: 00:25:37

So I'll start, with Kurt Russell, but

I, the main movie that I recall that

741

: 00:25:44

I associate with him is Tombstone.

742

: 00:25:45

I just think that his performance

in Tombstone is just so

743

: 00:25:49

fantastic and I just love him.

744

: 00:25:52

Like, I think he's got, he's, he's

got the X factor for sure, but that,

745

: 00:25:59

I feel like my catalog of Kurt Russell

movies isn't nearly as big as my

746

: 00:26:04

catalog of Patrick Swayze movies.

747

: 00:26:06

And I think as.

748

: 00:26:08

A young woman, I would be so remiss

to not mention Dirty Dancing.

749

: 00:26:13

'cause to me, that movie that was

like, that was a core memory for

750

: 00:26:19

me when I first saw that movie.

751

: 00:26:20

As a matter of fact, in my freshman

year of high school in our, I was in

752

: 00:26:26

show choir and we had this showcase that

we, like all the freshmen would do for

753

: 00:26:32

the upperclassmen and just basically

almost like a talent show for everybody.

754

: 00:26:36

And I, did, tried to do the time of my

life dance and, we did not do the lift

755

: 00:26:42

because it was just, it didn't work out.

756

: 00:26:45

But Patrick Swayze was always just,

like you said, it perfectly, like the

757

: 00:26:51

every man, like I just, I remember

crushing out on him so hard when I was

758

: 00:26:56

a little girl and like dirty dancing

is just like the tip of the iceberg.

759

: 00:26:59

I mean, I just, I love him so much

and like I have a more appreciation

760

: 00:27:03

for him as an adult watching like

more like of his actual movies where

761

: 00:27:09

he really has to display his chops.

762

: 00:27:11

you know, his Woody Woody Allen?

763

: 00:27:13

Yes.

764

: 00:27:13

His Woody Allen movies.

765

: 00:27:15

And then Ghost for me was like a huge,

like a movie for me is too, as a kid, this

766

: 00:27:22

was probably one of the first movies I

remember watching that scared me actually.

767

: 00:27:26

Katie: Oh, really?

768

: 00:27:27

Okay.

769

: 00:27:27

Lizzy: Yes.

770

: 00:27:28

not.

771

: 00:27:29

That was probably more age

appropriate to scare me.

772

: 00:27:32

I should be fair.

773

: 00:27:33

I think, I think Chad, I've shared

with you like the first movie

774

: 00:27:35

that like cut me to my core and

like really, really scared me.

775

: 00:27:38

But this was something that I wanna say

maybe I was nine or 10 when I saw for the

776

: 00:27:43

first time and those, those little bad

guys that come get you and take you to

777

: 00:27:48

the bad place, they really freaked me out.

778

: 00:27:50

I was a kid.

779

: 00:27:52

Yes,

780

: 00:27:53

Katie: It is unique in that way.

781

: 00:27:54

Like the

782

: 00:27:55

combination of genres is very different

783

: 00:27:59

Lizzy: yes.

784

: 00:27:59

I just, ugh.

785

: 00:28:00

I love him so much.

786

: 00:28:01

And even in like weird, obscure movies

like Donny Darko, like I think he

787

: 00:28:05

is, he's great in those movies too.

788

: 00:28:07

I just, I love him.

789

: 00:28:09

I think he's just fantastic.

790

: 00:28:11

Katie: He brings it in any

791

: 00:28:12

role.

792

: 00:28:13

Yeah, I

793

: 00:28:14

agree.

794

: 00:28:14

I love

795

: 00:28:14

him as well.

796

: 00:28:15

Chad, do you have

797

: 00:28:16

Chad: See, I, yeah, I had kind of

the opposite experience of Lizzie.

798

: 00:28:21

I'm far more, into Kurt

Russell, like his movies.

799

: 00:28:24

we covered big trouble in Little China.

800

: 00:28:27

That was something I saw

801

: 00:28:28

Katie: Love

802

: 00:28:28

Chad: very, very, early.

803

: 00:28:30

I was a big Mortal Kombat

fan and it inspired a lot

804

: 00:28:33

of the characters from that.

805

: 00:28:35

liked Overboard.

806

: 00:28:36

Katie: Yeah,

807

: 00:28:37

so

808

: 00:28:37

Chad: one

809

: 00:28:37

of the, yeah.

810

: 00:28:38

You guys covered that.

811

: 00:28:39

That one.

812

: 00:28:40

I.

813

: 00:28:40

He is fantastic.

814

: 00:28:42

big fan of Goldie.

815

: 00:28:43

Ha.

816

: 00:28:44

So that, that was an early experience.

817

: 00:28:46

Patrick Swayze,

818

: 00:28:48

I think I avoided because

it was a girly thing.

819

: 00:28:51

All the women

820

: 00:28:52

loved Patrick

821

: 00:28:53

Swayze.

822

: 00:28:53

So I came to movies later.

823

: 00:28:56

saw Roadhouse loved

that typical male movie,

824

: 00:28:59

Katie: I love

825

: 00:29:00

Chad: but

826

: 00:29:00

Katie: it's it's my second favorite.

827

: 00:29:03

Chad: yeah,

828

: 00:29:04

I was,

829

: 00:29:05

so we get shortlists for retro movie round

table, and it was Russell's Pick and Dirty

830

: 00:29:11

Dancing came up and I was begging him.

831

: 00:29:13

I was like, please give us dirty dancing.

832

: 00:29:16

And I forget what he chose,

but I didn't like his choice.

833

: 00:29:20

And I, I did a little protest, three

stars for whatever movie it was.

834

: 00:29:23

We did choose.

835

: 00:29:25

it'll come back around.

836

: 00:29:26

Come back on our show, Katie.

837

: 00:29:27

Get this for us.

838

: 00:29:28

Katie: Oh

839

: 00:29:29

Chad: But

840

: 00:29:30

Katie: I'll

841

: 00:29:31

Chad: was a big one.

842

: 00:29:32

Katie: how do I vote?

843

: 00:29:34

Chad: Yeah.

844

: 00:29:34

Short list of dirty dancing.

845

: 00:29:36

Dirty dancing and dirty dancing.

846

: 00:29:38

But yeah, ghost was,

847

: 00:29:41

this was my first romantic movie.

848

: 00:29:44

Like I'd probably seen romantic comedies.

849

: 00:29:46

This was the first romantic movie

I can remember, so it kind of

850

: 00:29:49

holds a special place in my heart.

851

: 00:29:52

Katie: I love that we have Two

guests today one female one male and

852

: 00:29:59

I also Lizzie I have had very few

women on as guests for some reason.

853

: 00:30:05

Everybody that I know

in podcasting is a man.

854

: 00:30:08

however, I will say that

this totally tracks.

855

: 00:30:13

tend to resonate more with Patrick

856

: 00:30:17

Lizzy: Mm-hmm.

857

: 00:30:18

Katie: tend to more with Kurt.

858

: 00:30:19

And I think it's the age that we're

at as well from a male perspective,

859

: 00:30:23

because everyone does say.

860

: 00:30:27

I don't want to say turned off, but

it's sort of like you said, you, you

861

: 00:30:29

associate him with, with chick flicks or

something because of dirty dancing was so

862

: 00:30:34

huge, but then he does a lot of action.

863

: 00:30:38

Like he's very athletic and very talented

in martial arts and things like that.

864

: 00:30:41

So like roadhouse and point break.

865

: 00:30:43

And I don't know why

I'm blanking right now.

866

: 00:30:48

Like some other action

movies, that he's done.

867

: 00:30:50

I think men gain his respect after that.

868

: 00:30:54

Lizzy: Yes.

869

: 00:30:55

Katie: but yeah, that seems to track.

870

: 00:30:57

Now the most important question of all

Do you guys think that they resemble

871

: 00:31:03

each other at all, Kurt and Patrick?

872

: 00:31:06

Lizzy: Hmm.

873

: 00:31:06

I.

874

: 00:31:07

I guess I never really thought

about it, but I could see it.

875

: 00:31:10

I think for me, I always envision

Kurt Russell with a mustache.

876

: 00:31:14

So for me it's, it's hard.

877

: 00:31:16

And that must be the

tombstone part of me, right?

878

: 00:31:18

Is like the whiter.

879

: 00:31:19

But I feel like I, there was a mean

tweet though that, you know, like

880

: 00:31:24

the Jimmy Kimmel like celebrity mean

tweet thing that was super huge.

881

: 00:31:27

About 10 years ago, somebody wrote

a mean tweet about Kurt Russell

882

: 00:31:30

and he had at the time like the

handlebar mustache and a beard.

883

: 00:31:35

And so that was just his own look.

884

: 00:31:37

And he read, his tweet said,

Kurt Russell is made of aged

885

: 00:31:41

denim . That was his , his tweeting

just started cracking up laughing.

886

: 00:31:46

But I feel like in terms of their build

and kind of the general structure of

887

: 00:31:51

their face, like they both have really

prominent jaws and they both have that.

888

: 00:32:00

Kind of sensitive look in their

eye that I think I could see it.

889

: 00:32:04

I really could.

890

: 00:32:05

I think they could definitely

pass for, for relatives, for sure.

891

: 00:32:09

Katie: Thank you, I needed

892

: 00:32:10

a woman.

893

: 00:32:11

Chad, were you gonna say no?

894

: 00:32:14

Chad: I was gonna say yes.

895

: 00:32:14

I, I feel like

896

: 00:32:15

I can see it in the eyes, like the hair

is distinguishing Patrick Swayze with

897

: 00:32:19

the, the longer blonde locks, but I

can see it in the eyes and the nose.

898

: 00:32:24

Yeah.

899

: 00:32:25

Katie: you guys so much.

900

: 00:32:27

This is one of the things too that I think

is More women see it than not, but I think

901

: 00:32:33

they very much alike and I ask everyone.

902

: 00:32:36

so I'm going to continue to try

and get more people that see it.

903

: 00:32:39

And so thank

904

: 00:32:39

Lizzy: yes,

905

: 00:32:40

Katie: I'm, I'm I'm glad

906

: 00:32:41

that you guys can see it.

907

: 00:32:43

Chad: Here you go.

908

: 00:32:43

Katie: All

909

: 00:32:44

Chad: Happy to help

910

: 00:32:45

Katie: stay with me on this.

911

: 00:32:46

I'm not going to give up.

912

: 00:32:49

All right.

913

: 00:32:49

Shall we

914

: 00:32:50

get into Ghost?

915

: 00:32:51

Released date, July

916

: 00:32:53

Lizzy: yes.

917

: 00:32:54

Chad: do it.

918

: 00:33:00

Katie: 1990.

919

: 00:33:02

This was a PG 13 movie.

920

: 00:33:05

a little over two hours.

921

: 00:33:07

The IMDB rating is a 7.

922

: 00:33:09

1 which is pretty good.

923

: 00:33:11

I think it, and I did look like

it's on par with, Pretty Woman and

924

: 00:33:16

a few other similar type movies.

925

: 00:33:17

They're all like around 7.

926

: 00:33:19

the director is a little unusual,

in that it's Jerry Zucker, but he's

927

: 00:33:25

most known for kind of those, um,

screwball comedies like Airplane and

928

: 00:33:32

then Ruthless People and First Night.

929

: 00:33:35

So this is a little different,

I would say, for Jerry Zucker.

930

: 00:33:39

The writer is Bruce Joel Rubin, he

also wrote Stuart Little Two, Deep

931

: 00:33:46

Impact, Jacob's Ladder, and The Time

932

: 00:33:48

Traveler's Wife.

933

: 00:33:50

Lizzy: Wow.

934

: 00:33:50

Katie: his credits, yeah.

935

: 00:33:52

Lizzy: He's a Renaissance writer.

936

: 00:33:54

Yeah.

937

: 00:33:54

Katie: Isn't it?

938

: 00:33:55

Yes.

939

: 00:33:56

So you're like, all

940

: 00:33:57

Chad: I,

941

: 00:33:57

Katie: well, let's see, but the

942

: 00:33:59

Lizzy: Jacob Stewart.

943

: 00:34:00

Little two

944

: 00:34:01

Chad: right.

945

: 00:34:01

Yeah.

946

: 00:34:02

Those are the two that stuck out to me.

947

: 00:34:04

Very similar.

948

: 00:34:05

Lizzy: Yeah,

949

: 00:34:08

Katie: We have our Patrick

Swayze playing Sam Wheat.

950

: 00:34:11

And then our leading lady here is

Demi Moore playing Molly Jensen.

951

: 00:34:16

And I was reading that actually,

this was the film that turned her

952

: 00:34:20

into the highest paid

953

: 00:34:21

actress in Hollywood at the time.

954

: 00:34:24

Lizzy: I could see it.

955

: 00:34:24

Katie: Yeah.

956

: 00:34:25

prior to that, she was well known,

but she wasn't like a super bankable

957

: 00:34:30

star, but because Ghost ended up

making a ton of money, then it

958

: 00:34:35

really made Demi's career.

959

: 00:34:38

Lizzy: It's the one tier.

960

: 00:34:40

Katie: What's that?

961

: 00:34:41

Chad: got a

962

: 00:34:42

Katie: What?

963

: 00:34:43

Lizzy: It's the one tier to me that's

like the, that's like her benchmark.

964

: 00:34:46

It's like her ability to just keep

them coming like in one string.

965

: 00:34:50

Katie: she said she can do it on cue, like

966

: 00:34:52

Lizzy: Yes.

967

: 00:34:53

Katie: of either eye, that,

I mean, that is a talent.

968

: 00:34:56

Chad: That's crazy.

969

: 00:34:59

Katie: We have Whoopi Goldberg playing

Otome Brown, and she's really well cast.

970

: 00:35:04

I really liked her character in this.

971

: 00:35:07

Toni Goldwyn plays the...

972

: 00:35:11

Sleazeball Carl Bruner.

973

: 00:35:12

and you might recognize

him also as the president,

974

: 00:35:17

Fitzgerald Grant in

975

: 00:35:18

Scandal.

976

: 00:35:20

Lizzy: Yes.

977

: 00:35:20

Katie: you guys recognize him?

978

: 00:35:21

Lizzy: Yes.

979

: 00:35:22

I actually told, I recorded last night

with, with Russell, for . What movie did

980

: 00:35:27

for Miss Congeniality and we were talking

about it and it was the warmup question

981

: 00:35:33

of what the last movie you saw was.

982

: 00:35:34

And I was trying to name everybody

and I said, I can't remember the

983

: 00:35:37

actor's name, but for anybody that ever

watched Scandal, he is the president,

984

: 00:35:41

So I'll leave that in there just for this.

985

: 00:35:45

Chad: I went,

986

: 00:35:45

to war for Miss Congeniality.

987

: 00:35:47

Lizzy: Yay.

988

: 00:35:48

I'm so happy that you did.

989

: 00:35:49

Chad: this.

990

: 00:35:50

Lizzy: I'm so happy that you did.

991

: 00:35:52

It's a great movie.

992

: 00:35:53

It's such a great, yes.

993

: 00:35:55

Katie: you not seen it before?

994

: 00:35:56

Lizzy: No, I had, that was one

guest had shortlisted it, but

995

: 00:36:00

that was something that I like,

deeply loved, was so excited for.

996

: 00:36:03

Katie: It is a good one.

997

: 00:36:06

so, so Tony, He's kind

of one of those guys.

998

: 00:36:08

He's in a lot of stuff.

999

: 00:36:09

He has like a ton of credits.

: 1000

00:36:11,904 --> 00:36:13,274

then, Rick.

: 1001

00:36:14,229 --> 00:36:18,669

Avales, I think I'm pronouncing

that right, as Willy Lopez.

: 1002

00:36:18,779 --> 00:36:23,509

He was also in Carlito's Way, The

Cannonball Run, and Waterworld.

: 1003

00:36:24,869 --> 00:36:28,739

And then Phil Leeds, so the other

characters are all very small parts.

: 1004

00:36:28,749 --> 00:36:33,959

Phil Leeds, he plays the ER,

the ghost in which he's a

: 1005

00:36:33,959 --> 00:36:36,429

super familiar character actor.

: 1006

00:36:37,249 --> 00:36:39,979

I would say he's most

known for Rosemary's Baby.

: 1007

00:36:40,774 --> 00:36:44,014

he's he's one of those people you're

like, Oh, that guy, I know that guy.

: 1008

00:36:45,094 --> 00:36:45,384

Lizzy: Nice.

: 1009

00:36:45,394 --> 00:36:49,634

Katie: with the Subway Ghost was

also a very familiar character actor

: 1010

00:36:49,634 --> 00:36:52,464

and his name is Vincent Chiavelli.

: 1011

00:36:53,474 --> 00:36:58,424

And he was, um, gosh, who did,

he was maybe one of the teachers

: 1012

00:36:58,454 --> 00:37:00,144

in Fast Times at Ridgemont High.

: 1013

00:37:02,114 --> 00:37:03,244

I think one of the teachers.

: 1014

00:37:04,234 --> 00:37:04,454

Lizzy: Yes.

: 1015

00:37:05,124 --> 00:37:05,954

Katie: a young Steven

: 1016

00:37:05,954 --> 00:37:06,314

Root?

: 1017

00:37:07,084 --> 00:37:08,104

When you rewatched it,

: 1018

00:37:09,294 --> 00:37:09,514

Lizzy: No

: 1019

00:37:10,334 --> 00:37:12,454

Katie: he played the police sergeant,

: 1020

00:37:13,504 --> 00:37:13,964

Chad: Oh, really?

: 1021

00:37:14,084 --> 00:37:15,144

Katie: he's younger.

: 1022

00:37:15,164 --> 00:37:17,264

So it's, yeah, I was like,

: 1023

00:37:17,319 --> 00:37:18,579

Chad: And he has a stapler,

: 1024

00:37:18,664 --> 00:37:21,164

Katie: you know, well,

he might have, but yeah.

: 1025

00:37:21,164 --> 00:37:29,514

So for listeners who Steven Root,

uh, played, um, office space, Milton,

: 1026

00:37:29,609 --> 00:37:30,029

Chad: Milton.

: 1027

00:37:30,374 --> 00:37:30,704

Katie: Yes.

: 1028

00:37:30,824 --> 00:37:32,764

With stapler.

: 1029

00:37:33,614 --> 00:37:35,024

also, in news radio.

: 1030

00:37:35,244 --> 00:37:36,434

So those are two big roles that

: 1031

00:37:36,434 --> 00:37:37,864

he's known for, but yeah, a young

: 1032

00:37:37,864 --> 00:37:38,734

Steven Root in this.

: 1033

00:37:39,749 --> 00:37:39,969

Chad: Wow.

: 1034

00:37:40,884 --> 00:37:41,244

Katie: Yes,

: 1035

00:37:41,254 --> 00:37:47,624

the music is by a French composer,

Maurice Jarre, again, apologies,

: 1036

00:37:47,624 --> 00:37:48,894

I suck at pronunciation.

: 1037

00:37:48,894 --> 00:37:52,524

and he's known for his collaborations

with the director David Lean

: 1038

00:37:52,964 --> 00:37:54,944

for, you know, little movies like

: 1039

00:37:54,944 --> 00:37:56,594

Lawrence of Arabia and Dr.

: 1040

00:37:56,594 --> 00:37:57,774

Zhivago.

: 1041

00:37:58,384 --> 00:37:58,604

Lizzy: Wow.

: 1042

00:37:59,144 --> 00:38:00,464

Katie: Yeah, big time.

: 1043

00:38:01,474 --> 00:38:04,874

This movie won several awards.

: 1044

00:38:05,284 --> 00:38:08,074

It either won or was

nominated for some big awards.

: 1045

00:38:08,074 --> 00:38:14,979

So Whoopi Goldberg for Best Supporting

both the Oscar and the Golden Globe.

: 1046

00:38:16,279 --> 00:38:22,089

the writer, Bruce Joel Rubin, he won

the Oscar for Best Screenplay for Ghost.

: 1047

00:38:22,519 --> 00:38:27,439

And it was also nominated for Best

Picture, Best Editing, and Best Music.

: 1048

00:38:28,124 --> 00:38:28,344

Lizzy: Wow.

: 1049

00:38:28,829 --> 00:38:31,539

Katie: I think that's a little

surprising that it was up for so

: 1050

00:38:31,539 --> 00:38:33,269

many Oscars, to be honest with you.

: 1051

00:38:33,469 --> 00:38:35,149

and then Patrick Swayze, Demi Moore.

: 1052

00:38:35,149 --> 00:38:39,849

we're both nominated for Golden

Globes for this movie and it was also

: 1053

00:38:39,879 --> 00:38:41,109

up for a Best Picture!

: 1054

00:38:41,569 --> 00:38:41,939

Um,

: 1055

00:38:42,124 --> 00:38:42,344

Lizzy: Wow.

: 1056

00:38:43,209 --> 00:38:47,829

Katie: And then Whoopi

also won a BAFTA, Jesus.

: 1057

00:38:48,039 --> 00:38:53,449

she became the first actress to win

the Supporting Actress at the Academy

: 1058

00:38:53,579 --> 00:38:55,979

Awards, BAFTA Awards, and Golden Globe

: 1059

00:38:55,979 --> 00:38:57,479

Awards for her role in this film.

: 1060

00:38:57,819 --> 00:38:58,949

So she won all three

: 1061

00:38:59,404 --> 00:39:00,224

Lizzy: She swept it.

: 1062

00:39:00,364 --> 00:39:00,584

Wow.

: 1063

00:39:01,149 --> 00:39:03,139

Katie: and I guess she was

the first actress to do that.

: 1064

00:39:04,559 --> 00:39:08,479

Chad: I had the same feelings as you

do Katie, though this, I don't feel

: 1065

00:39:08,479 --> 00:39:10,199

like we nominate these types of movies

: 1066

00:39:10,229 --> 00:39:10,719

anymore.

: 1067

00:39:11,179 --> 00:39:11,639

We have

: 1068

00:39:11,709 --> 00:39:12,649

Katie: definitely don't.

: 1069

00:39:12,649 --> 00:39:13,409

Lizzy: totally agree.

: 1070

00:39:13,604 --> 00:39:14,004

Chad: enough.

: 1071

00:39:14,354 --> 00:39:14,604

Katie: yeah,

: 1072

00:39:14,674 --> 00:39:15,164

Chad: There's

: 1073

00:39:16,934 --> 00:39:16,954

Katie: yeah,

: 1074

00:39:16,964 --> 00:39:17,774

good point.

: 1075

00:39:18,064 --> 00:39:19,964

Lizzy: Yes, I, I agree with that.

: 1076

00:39:20,294 --> 00:39:20,814

Katie: mm hmm.

: 1077

00:39:21,184 --> 00:39:23,314

And then there were

also nominations for the

: 1078

00:39:23,314 --> 00:39:23,914

screenplay,

: 1079

00:39:23,914 --> 00:39:25,904

makeup, and visual effects.

: 1080

00:39:26,654 --> 00:39:28,334

BAFTA nominated those, so.

: 1081

00:39:28,494 --> 00:39:33,294

lot of, uh, award

attention, guess, for Ghost.

: 1082

00:39:33,304 --> 00:39:34,024

I don't know why.

: 1083

00:39:34,044 --> 00:39:35,564

That is surprising to me.

: 1084

00:39:36,214 --> 00:39:37,794

But good for ghost.

: 1085

00:39:38,404 --> 00:39:43,964

It made a shit ton of money because it

made grossed five, almost 506 million on a

: 1086

00:39:43,964 --> 00:39:46,904

22 million budget.

: 1087

00:39:47,124 --> 00:39:47,344

So

: 1088

00:39:47,344 --> 00:39:48,554

I would say that's pretty good.

: 1089

00:39:49,309 --> 00:39:53,999

Lizzy: Yeah, I feel like these, I feel

like Ghost, to your point earlier,

: 1090

00:39:54,049 --> 00:39:55,999

Katie, it was like a disruptor.

: 1091

00:39:56,659 --> 00:40:00,679

So that probably has to be the reason

why it was nominated for so many things.

: 1092

00:40:00,899 --> 00:40:06,119

If Ghost were a novel, it would be put

under, I imagine something like the smut

: 1093

00:40:06,479 --> 00:40:11,599

category, you know, where it's like that

kind of romantic, like Fabio on the cover

: 1094

00:40:11,669 --> 00:40:15,959

kind of book and which I mean, there's

nothing wrong with that, but those kind

: 1095

00:40:15,959 --> 00:40:21,149

of tend to get looked at through a more

shallow lens by the general public.

: 1096

00:40:21,369 --> 00:40:25,789

And so I think . Maybe because

there weren't so many at that point.

: 1097

00:40:26,049 --> 00:40:29,669

It was like a disruptor in the

industry and everybody loved it.

: 1098

00:40:29,729 --> 00:40:33,469

Now that there's so many, they're

looking for more depth, I guess.

: 1099

00:40:33,649 --> 00:40:34,949

But I am, I am with Chad.

: 1100

00:40:34,949 --> 00:40:39,789

Like now, Molly would've had to

have gone on some kind of gigantic

: 1101

00:40:39,899 --> 00:40:45,029

existential crisis and big journey and,

you know, maybe it was all in her mind

: 1102

00:40:45,129 --> 00:40:48,309

or like something like that in order

for him to be considered for an Oscar.

: 1103

00:40:48,309 --> 00:40:48,509

Now,

: 1104

00:40:49,024 --> 00:40:49,354

Katie: Yep.

: 1105

00:40:49,784 --> 00:40:50,284

Good point.

: 1106

00:40:50,784 --> 00:40:51,144

Okay.

: 1107

00:40:51,144 --> 00:40:51,854

So.

: 1108

00:40:52,644 --> 00:40:55,204

Since this movie is like 33 years old.

: 1109

00:40:55,554 --> 00:41:00,764

So if you haven't seen this movie, or if

it's been a while, Sam wheat is a banker.

: 1110

00:41:01,234 --> 00:41:04,554

Molly Jensen is an artist and

the two are madly in love.

: 1111

00:41:04,554 --> 00:41:09,314

However, when Sam is murdered by a

friend and corrupt business partner, Carl

: 1112

00:41:09,324 --> 00:41:14,324

Bruner over a shady business deal, he is

left to roam the earth as a powerless.

: 1113

00:41:14,559 --> 00:41:14,899

Spirit.

: 1114

00:41:15,679 --> 00:41:20,579

he learns of Carl's betrayal, Sam

must seek the help of psychic Odomay

: 1115

00:41:20,579 --> 00:41:24,769

Brown to set things right and protect

Molly from Carl and his goons.

: 1116

00:41:26,569 --> 00:41:32,889

What are your overall thoughts and or

favorite moments or scenes from Ghost?

: 1117

00:41:33,209 --> 00:41:34,619

Just to get kick things off.

: 1118

00:41:35,237 --> 00:41:37,417

Lizzy: Uh, favorite ones

is a, is a tough one.

: 1119

00:41:37,697 --> 00:41:39,497

I, I love this movie so much.

: 1120

00:41:39,737 --> 00:41:47,657

I think as a kid, the scene that stuck out

for me the most was the, the clay scene.

: 1121

00:41:47,817 --> 00:41:49,017

'cause I'd never seen anything like that.

: 1122

00:41:49,077 --> 00:41:52,857

So it was kind of an, and so much of

that through flew right over my head.

: 1123

00:41:53,237 --> 00:41:57,977

But I just thought that the scene in

general was, was fun and interesting.

: 1124

00:41:57,977 --> 00:42:00,617

And I remember my mom really

loving it and we would

: 1125

00:42:00,897 --> 00:42:01,077

.

Katie: did.

: 1126

00:42:01,237 --> 00:42:02,137

Yeah, she did.

: 1127

00:42:03,557 --> 00:42:03,777

Lizzy: So

: 1128

00:42:03,897 --> 00:42:04,717

Katie: it's iconic.

: 1129

00:42:04,727 --> 00:42:06,537

It's like an iconic scene

: 1130

00:42:06,557 --> 00:42:06,727

for

: 1131

00:42:06,767 --> 00:42:10,297

Lizzy: like the song, and I, I, as

now I'm gonna be totally honest,

: 1132

00:42:10,317 --> 00:42:13,167

but I watched it now, the only

thing that I could think of is oh my

: 1133

00:42:13,167 --> 00:42:15,167

gosh, your hands are so disgusting.

: 1134

00:42:15,197 --> 00:42:17,267

I would just not behave on the nap.

: 1135

00:42:17,497 --> 00:42:18,067

It's so gross.

: 1136

00:42:18,327 --> 00:42:19,097

wash your hands.

: 1137

00:42:19,327 --> 00:42:20,017

It's too gross.

: 1138

00:42:20,637 --> 00:42:22,807

that was my, my reaction to it.

: 1139

00:42:22,827 --> 00:42:32,062

Now I, for me, I love the, the love, but

nothing, I mean, Ota, ma Brown, Whoopi

: 1140

00:42:32,062 --> 00:42:39,262

Goldberg completely just brings the

movie to a completely new level for me.

: 1141

00:42:39,402 --> 00:42:43,862

So anything within her, like I, I

could name off so many different

: 1142

00:42:43,862 --> 00:42:48,022

scenes, but overall, the common

denominator is that the banter and

: 1143

00:42:48,022 --> 00:42:53,062

the back and forth between Patrick

Swayze and Whoopi Goldberg is absolute

: 1144

00:42:54,102 --> 00:42:54,902

dynamite to me.

: 1145

00:42:54,932 --> 00:43:00,382

Like everything from when he's like

singing, on Henry vii, I am, I am versus

: 1146

00:43:00,892 --> 00:43:05,302

them at the bank when she's trying to

close out the accounts and even like

: 1147

00:43:05,302 --> 00:43:08,822

the sweet little transaction where

he gets the penny and gives that over

: 1148

00:43:08,882 --> 00:43:12,942

to her and they're fighting with each

other while trying to talk to Molly.

: 1149

00:43:13,222 --> 00:43:18,112

I just think that it's

Whoopi Goldberg is special.

: 1150

00:43:18,302 --> 00:43:20,472

There's just really no

other way to, to put it.

: 1151

00:43:20,692 --> 00:43:24,072

She sparkles and it's no

different in this movie.

: 1152

00:43:24,942 --> 00:43:27,152

Katie: Really good way

to put it, the sparkle.

: 1153

00:43:28,082 --> 00:43:34,332

I gotta say, scene hit me different

now too when I re watched it.

: 1154

00:43:34,452 --> 00:43:39,692

And I did notice though that when

they're done messing around with

: 1155

00:43:39,692 --> 00:43:45,092

the pottery and they go into the

living room to have sex, great.

: 1156

00:43:45,102 --> 00:43:45,962

It's awesome.

: 1157

00:43:47,207 --> 00:43:47,507

I'm like,

: 1158

00:43:47,507 --> 00:43:49,907

Oh, like Patrick is really

good at love scenes.

: 1159

00:43:49,907 --> 00:43:50,857

I'll just say like, he's

: 1160

00:43:51,052 --> 00:43:51,272

Lizzy: Yes.

: 1161

00:43:51,347 --> 00:43:54,357

Katie: really good at

love scenes, but they

: 1162

00:43:55,297 --> 00:43:57,377

screen must've washed their hands

: 1163

00:43:57,382 --> 00:43:57,602

Lizzy: Yes.

: 1164

00:43:57,922 --> 00:43:58,202

.I did.

: 1165

00:43:58,432 --> 00:43:58,652

Chad: Yes.

: 1166

00:43:58,817 --> 00:44:03,767

Katie: have clay all over them and I'm

sorry, but that would have totally ruined.

: 1167

00:44:04,722 --> 00:44:09,942

The moment, but also I don't think

I could relate me at my age now,

: 1168

00:44:10,642 --> 00:44:12,142

but they're super awesome apartment.

: 1169

00:44:12,152 --> 00:44:13,072

I don't think I would be able.

: 1170

00:44:13,072 --> 00:44:14,912

I, I wouldn't be able to relax enough to

: 1171

00:44:14,912 --> 00:44:15,502

enjoy it.

: 1172

00:44:15,562 --> 00:44:18,022

Knowing that clay would be

getting all over all of our

: 1173

00:44:18,232 --> 00:44:18,582

Lizzy: Right.

: 1174

00:44:18,942 --> 00:44:19,222

I know.

: 1175

00:44:19,962 --> 00:44:20,942

It was like really far.

: 1176

00:44:21,012 --> 00:44:22,742

Like to me, I think it was like, like up.

: 1177

00:44:23,432 --> 00:44:23,922

Towards

: 1178

00:44:25,112 --> 00:44:26,602

like closer to her shoulders.

: 1179

00:44:26,682 --> 00:44:27,882

I mean it was everywhere.

: 1180

00:44:27,882 --> 00:44:28,682

And it was like, really?

: 1181

00:44:28,842 --> 00:44:30,522

I remember I took an art

class in high school.

: 1182

00:44:30,672 --> 00:44:33,162

That stuff gets like really

far under your fingernails.

: 1183

00:44:33,422 --> 00:44:37,082

So to your point, this wouldn't be like

a, oh, let's just go wash our hands.

: 1184

00:44:37,112 --> 00:44:38,682

Like you have to scrub.

: 1185

00:44:39,022 --> 00:44:45,262

So that would've really, I think taken all

of the air out of the tires of the moment.

: 1186

00:44:46,022 --> 00:44:47,262

Probably , but

: 1187

00:44:47,572 --> 00:44:48,292

Chad: straight to the shower.

: 1188

00:44:48,482 --> 00:44:49,062

Lizzy: that's right.

: 1189

00:44:49,332 --> 00:44:50,222

Katie: what they should have done.

: 1190

00:44:50,232 --> 00:44:50,662

Actually.

: 1191

00:44:50,662 --> 00:44:52,242

That would have been way better.

: 1192

00:44:52,452 --> 00:44:53,702

Lizzy: That would've That we should,

: 1193

00:44:53,737 --> 00:44:54,937

Katie: gone to the shower to

: 1194

00:44:55,202 --> 00:44:55,422

Lizzy: yes.

: 1195

00:44:55,557 --> 00:44:56,797

Katie: then that's where

they have the love scene.

: 1196

00:44:56,807 --> 00:44:57,647

That would have been way

: 1197

00:44:57,647 --> 00:44:58,127

better.

: 1198

00:44:58,322 --> 00:45:00,022

Lizzy: And make way more sense.

: 1199

00:45:00,422 --> 00:45:01,982

'cause I mean, we all love a shower scene.

: 1200

00:45:01,982 --> 00:45:02,382

It's great.

: 1201

00:45:02,412 --> 00:45:02,702

Yeah.

: 1202

00:45:02,732 --> 00:45:05,302

That would've been made way more sense,

: 1203

00:45:05,642 --> 00:45:07,172

.

Chad: Yeah, it's already steamy,

: 1204

00:45:07,322 --> 00:45:07,942

Lizzy: That's right.

: 1205

00:45:08,162 --> 00:45:08,742

That's right.

: 1206

00:45:09,707 --> 00:45:09,917

Katie: What

: 1207

00:45:10,002 --> 00:45:10,292

Chad: Yeah.

: 1208

00:45:10,292 --> 00:45:10,892

Patrick's,

: 1209

00:45:11,257 --> 00:45:12,067

Katie: What are your thoughts?

: 1210

00:45:12,077 --> 00:45:12,997

Favorite scenes?

: 1211

00:45:13,522 --> 00:45:16,092

Chad: well, Katie, you're rapidly

becoming my wife's favorite

: 1212

00:45:16,092 --> 00:45:18,012

person because she hadn't,

: 1213

00:45:18,137 --> 00:45:18,157

Katie: ha.

: 1214

00:45:18,352 --> 00:45:22,172

Chad: she hadn't seen Mystic Pizza

and she, horror movies are my thing.

: 1215

00:45:22,192 --> 00:45:26,672

So whenever we sit down, I wanna watch a

horror movie, and she just says, if you do

: 1216

00:45:26,672 --> 00:45:29,552

that, go upstairs, or I go away, pick one.

: 1217

00:45:30,172 --> 00:45:34,192

And so Mystic Pizza, she

hadn't seen show that to her.

: 1218

00:45:34,562 --> 00:45:35,152

Loves it.

: 1219

00:45:36,072 --> 00:45:36,752

hadn't seen Ghost.

: 1220

00:45:37,392 --> 00:45:37,612

Lizzy: Oh,

: 1221

00:45:37,692 --> 00:45:42,032

Chad: And I was like, okay,

do you wanna watch Ghost?

: 1222

00:45:42,212 --> 00:45:42,832

It was late.

: 1223

00:45:42,932 --> 00:45:47,067

And she doesn't like to directly

say I want to do this, but

: 1224

00:45:47,067 --> 00:45:48,307

she's speeding around the bush.

: 1225

00:45:48,657 --> 00:45:52,587

Well, if you want to, if you, so I

could tell this was something that

: 1226

00:45:52,587 --> 00:45:58,027

she wanted to see and so gets her

romantic movie night with me under

: 1227

00:45:58,047 --> 00:45:59,747

the guise of Chad's doing homework.

: 1228

00:45:59,777 --> 00:46:00,907

I'll, I might as well be around.

: 1229

00:46:01,327 --> 00:46:02,507

So thank you for that.

: 1230

00:46:02,597 --> 00:46:03,467

Thank you for our

: 1231

00:46:03,527 --> 00:46:04,907

couple of date nights.

: 1232

00:46:04,997 --> 00:46:05,417

Katie: pleasure.

: 1233

00:46:06,127 --> 00:46:06,707

Lizzy: that's awesome.

: 1234

00:46:06,832 --> 00:46:07,052

Chad: pat

: 1235

00:46:08,332 --> 00:46:10,972

Swayze is called that scene the

Sexiest thing he's ever done.

: 1236

00:46:11,042 --> 00:46:11,422

Katie: has.

: 1237

00:46:11,492 --> 00:46:11,932

Chad: I agree.

: 1238

00:46:12,272 --> 00:46:14,072

that went over my head as a kid.

: 1239

00:46:14,632 --> 00:46:17,032

'cause I'm just thinking

this is, this is gross.

: 1240

00:46:17,032 --> 00:46:17,912

This is disgusting.

: 1241

00:46:17,912 --> 00:46:18,832

But I think part of that

: 1242

00:46:18,852 --> 00:46:20,112

is I.

: 1243

00:46:20,262 --> 00:46:21,232

Them getting dirty

: 1244

00:46:21,907 --> 00:46:22,327

Lizzy: Mm-hmm.

: 1245

00:46:22,492 --> 00:46:25,272

Chad: and just not carrying

just the passion, carrying

: 1246

00:46:25,272 --> 00:46:28,832

them away from everything else

that's gross and on their hands.

: 1247

00:46:29,782 --> 00:46:30,952

that, that's fantastic.

: 1248

00:46:31,172 --> 00:46:32,832

But for a bank.

: 1249

00:46:33,112 --> 00:46:34,112

I do coding for it.

: 1250

00:46:35,242 --> 00:46:37,312

we'll be going into the bank scene is

: 1251

00:46:37,632 --> 00:46:38,232

a lot of fun.

: 1252

00:46:38,732 --> 00:46:40,272

Now, it doesn't work that way.

: 1253

00:46:40,272 --> 00:46:42,112

There's a ton of personal information.

: 1254

00:46:42,252 --> 00:46:45,632

He can't just be like, Hey, this

client just withdrew $4 million.

: 1255

00:46:46,132 --> 00:46:46,952

That's her name.

: 1256

00:46:47,412 --> 00:46:53,152

You can't do that But so funny

watching her fumble her way through

: 1257

00:46:53,152 --> 00:46:56,992

that and just the conversations, I'd

forgotten that she couldn't see Sam.

: 1258

00:46:57,622 --> 00:46:58,632

It'd been a long time.

: 1259

00:47:00,012 --> 00:47:05,272

her being turned the wrong way and just,

I'm marveling at the fact they managed

: 1260

00:47:05,332 --> 00:47:07,512

to not get a single shot of anyone.

: 1261

00:47:07,512 --> 00:47:08,872

Looking at Patrick Swayze,

: 1262

00:47:08,942 --> 00:47:10,272

Katie: Mmm.

: 1263

00:47:10,392 --> 00:47:13,592

Chad: watching people through

this movie and thinking I.

: 1264

00:47:13,677 --> 00:47:15,597

I mean, Patrick Swayze's a handsome man.

: 1265

00:47:16,617 --> 00:47:18,037

I'm looking, I

: 1266

00:47:18,347 --> 00:47:18,637

like

: 1267

00:47:18,937 --> 00:47:19,157

you.

: 1268

00:47:19,297 --> 00:47:20,357

That's distracting.

: 1269

00:47:20,502 --> 00:47:20,752

Katie: Good,

: 1270

00:47:20,817 --> 00:47:21,037

Chad: So

: 1271

00:47:21,092 --> 00:47:21,692

Lizzy: a really good point.

: 1272

00:47:22,977 --> 00:47:23,317

Chad: not a

: 1273

00:47:23,317 --> 00:47:24,397

soul is looking at

: 1274

00:47:24,657 --> 00:47:28,477

the most attractive man they'll

probably run into of the year, and it's,

: 1275

00:47:28,477 --> 00:47:30,037

that's impressive in and of itself.

: 1276

00:47:30,942 --> 00:47:33,162

Katie: That is a good

point, and she talks to him.

: 1277

00:47:33,892 --> 00:47:38,362

the rest of the cast does a really good

job of looking at her like she's crazy.

: 1278

00:47:38,372 --> 00:47:40,282

Like, what was with this lady?

: 1279

00:47:40,602 --> 00:47:40,992

You know?

: 1280

00:47:41,877 --> 00:47:46,457

that bank scene, that was one

of my favorite scenes where they

: 1281

00:47:46,457 --> 00:47:49,667

go, it's like, this is: 1990

: 1282

00:47:49,667 --> 00:47:51,117

So it's, none of this is electronic.

: 1283

00:47:51,127 --> 00:47:53,777

They have to go get a

physical signature card

: 1284

00:47:54,057 --> 00:47:55,877

so she can be added as Rita Miller.

: 1285

00:47:56,677 --> 00:47:56,857

So

: 1286

00:47:57,007 --> 00:47:57,227

Lizzy: Yes.

: 1287

00:47:57,477 --> 00:47:58,257

Katie: to be Rita Miller.

: 1288

00:47:58,257 --> 00:47:59,417

She's got a fake ID.

: 1289

00:48:01,087 --> 00:48:04,277

then they say something like, Oh,

you're going to need to call and

: 1290

00:48:04,277 --> 00:48:06,147

take that upstairs immediately.

: 1291

00:48:06,147 --> 00:48:06,187

Okay.

: 1292

00:48:06,822 --> 00:48:10,422

So that in the ten minutes it takes

them to get upstairs, they can now

: 1293

00:48:10,432 --> 00:48:11,282

close the account.

: 1294

00:48:11,282 --> 00:48:11,722

But I loved

: 1295

00:48:11,722 --> 00:48:13,232

her outfit in that scene too.

: 1296

00:48:13,807 --> 00:48:14,027

Lizzy: Yes.

: 1297

00:48:15,022 --> 00:48:15,522

Chad: The hat.

: 1298

00:48:15,622 --> 00:48:15,962

It was

: 1299

00:48:15,977 --> 00:48:17,607

Lizzy: She's like going

to the derby or something.

: 1300

00:48:17,727 --> 00:48:19,207

I mean like super ritzy.

: 1301

00:48:19,387 --> 00:48:19,607

Yes.

: 1302

00:48:19,992 --> 00:48:20,502

Katie: Yeah.

: 1303

00:48:20,852 --> 00:48:21,622

Skirt suit.

: 1304

00:48:22,692 --> 00:48:23,532

Yes, that was great.

: 1305

00:48:23,542 --> 00:48:25,382

Also, my immediate...

: 1306

00:48:26,792 --> 00:48:30,062

Well, you guys being horror fans,

I did take note of the opening

: 1307

00:48:30,082 --> 00:48:30,602

credits.

: 1308

00:48:31,022 --> 00:48:32,672

The music that they were playing.

: 1309

00:48:33,307 --> 00:48:33,527

Lizzy: Yes.

: 1310

00:48:33,652 --> 00:48:33,972

Chad: my goodness.

: 1311

00:48:33,972 --> 00:48:34,212

Yeah.

: 1312

00:48:34,602 --> 00:48:38,222

Katie: So, were they, were they trying

to kind of fake us out a little bit?

: 1313

00:48:38,222 --> 00:48:40,032

Cause it's this really ominous...

: 1314

00:48:40,842 --> 00:48:45,992

Kind of spooky music as we're panning

through like seemingly an abandoned place

: 1315

00:48:46,602 --> 00:48:49,832

And then it's like a fake out because

it's them doing construction on their new

: 1316

00:48:49,832 --> 00:48:53,272

apartment like immediate comic relief Like

: 1317

00:48:53,592 --> 00:48:55,502

what did you guys think about that scene?

: 1318

00:48:57,242 --> 00:49:03,052

Lizzy: Yeah, it's like this desire to,

to set the tone for what could be, but

: 1319

00:49:04,092 --> 00:49:07,532

ultimately, I mean, 'cause there are some,

there are some scary elements to this

: 1320

00:49:07,532 --> 00:49:09,572

movie, but ultimately this is a drama.

: 1321

00:49:09,682 --> 00:49:17,652

This is not a, a, a thriller or a scary

movie, but I do agree that it felt like

: 1322

00:49:17,652 --> 00:49:21,252

they were trying to psych you out a little

bit or at least get your blood pumping

: 1323

00:49:21,672 --> 00:49:24,372

and to possibly not know what to expect.

: 1324

00:49:25,817 --> 00:49:29,067

Chad: Yeah, it almost had

that scream type grunge.

: 1325

00:49:29,787 --> 00:49:29,907

I.

: 1326

00:49:30,372 --> 00:49:32,032

10 to that opening credit.

: 1327

00:49:32,532 --> 00:49:35,432

So yeah, I haven't seen

this movie in 20 plus years,

: 1328

00:49:36,132 --> 00:49:38,392

so I had the initial thought of,

: 1329

00:49:38,892 --> 00:49:41,472

oh no, is this much

darker than I remember.

: 1330

00:49:41,792 --> 00:49:43,312

I don't remember it being that dark.

: 1331

00:49:43,552 --> 00:49:44,872

Although there are some gnarly kills.

: 1332

00:49:45,222 --> 00:49:45,712

Like you,

: 1333

00:49:45,982 --> 00:49:50,632

Carl Carl Bruner getting

that, he was derated, he

: 1334

00:49:50,632 --> 00:49:52,192

had the window right through his chest.

: 1335

00:49:53,322 --> 00:49:53,992

impressive.

: 1336

00:49:54,162 --> 00:49:54,482

Lizzy: brutal.

: 1337

00:49:54,612 --> 00:49:56,792

Chad: the getting dragged to hell.

: 1338

00:49:57,192 --> 00:49:59,232

I mean, Sam Raey did it

better and dragged me to

: 1339

00:49:59,232 --> 00:49:59,352

hell.

: 1340

00:49:59,452 --> 00:50:00,432

But these little

: 1341

00:50:00,602 --> 00:50:00,802

Katie: a little

: 1342

00:50:01,092 --> 00:50:01,512

Chad: demons

: 1343

00:50:02,272 --> 00:50:02,492

Lizzy: Yes.

: 1344

00:50:02,762 --> 00:50:03,812

There's sounds though.

: 1345

00:50:03,812 --> 00:50:08,772

They make that ugh kind of sound and it

really as a kid I remember that really

: 1346

00:50:08,772 --> 00:50:12,172

freaked me out and looking at a back now.

: 1347

00:50:13,887 --> 00:50:15,777

It's the animation of it.

: 1348

00:50:15,777 --> 00:50:19,937

And I mean there's definitely some,

some cynicism there just having

: 1349

00:50:19,967 --> 00:50:22,417

seen so many special effects now.

: 1350

00:50:22,477 --> 00:50:25,737

But they're definitely cartoony

and the fact that that's not scary.

: 1351

00:50:25,757 --> 00:50:28,137

But the sounds that they

make are very frightening.

: 1352

00:50:28,177 --> 00:50:30,257

I mean, they're freaky for sure.

: 1353

00:50:30,647 --> 00:50:32,897

It's, it was enough to scare me as a kid.

: 1354

00:50:33,717 --> 00:50:34,937

Chad: It is a baby crying

: 1355

00:50:35,237 --> 00:50:35,857

and it's,

: 1356

00:50:35,927 --> 00:50:36,317

Katie: hmm.

: 1357

00:50:36,357 --> 00:50:37,977

Chad: uh, reversed, and then it

: 1358

00:50:37,997 --> 00:50:38,577

slowed down,

: 1359

00:50:38,847 --> 00:50:39,347

Lizzy: No way.

: 1360

00:50:39,417 --> 00:50:40,457

Chad: it's so unsettling.

: 1361

00:50:41,217 --> 00:50:41,917

Lizzy: Oh my goodness.

: 1362

00:50:42,387 --> 00:50:43,877

That makes complete sense.

: 1363

00:50:43,977 --> 00:50:47,157

It almost like even adds to

like understanding what it is.

: 1364

00:50:47,517 --> 00:50:51,037

'cause there's like some, you know,

like weird nuances to why that

: 1365

00:50:51,037 --> 00:50:52,677

could be extra creepy being a demon.

: 1366

00:50:52,677 --> 00:50:54,837

That's this very creepy

: 1367

00:50:55,297 --> 00:50:56,157

Katie: Baby demons.

: 1368

00:50:56,517 --> 00:50:56,737

Lizzy: Yes.

: 1369

00:50:57,077 --> 00:50:59,177

Chad: Yes, always more terrifying.

: 1370

00:50:59,357 --> 00:51:00,627

Katie: yeah, the special effects,

: 1371

00:51:00,677 --> 00:51:03,727

I mean, again, it's: 1990

thought they did a really good job

: 1372

00:51:03,907 --> 00:51:04,197

Lizzy: Yeah.

: 1373

00:51:05,297 --> 00:51:08,937

Katie: the, yeah, the special

effects were pretty, pretty good.

: 1374

00:51:09,327 --> 00:51:12,927

I immediately took note of

Patrick Swayze's hair in this.

: 1375

00:51:12,947 --> 00:51:16,187

It's short, and it's

like lighter in color.

: 1376

00:51:16,187 --> 00:51:18,397

It's like more blonde than brown,

: 1377

00:51:18,847 --> 00:51:20,027

and it's perfectly coiffed.

: 1378

00:51:20,832 --> 00:51:21,322

You know, I

: 1379

00:51:21,737 --> 00:51:21,957

Chad: Yes,

: 1380

00:51:22,012 --> 00:51:23,002

Katie: you guys notice his hair?

: 1381

00:51:23,687 --> 00:51:24,467

Lizzy: Yes, yes,

: 1382

00:51:24,477 --> 00:51:24,637

Chad: course.

: 1383

00:51:24,672 --> 00:51:25,502

Katie: his hair, but

: 1384

00:51:25,947 --> 00:51:26,267

Lizzy: absolutely.

: 1385

00:51:26,497 --> 00:51:31,297

He's got the perfect, comb over and

in dirty dancing, it was fluffier.

: 1386

00:51:31,537 --> 00:51:36,057

'cause I think that of the times know they

wanted it to be more in the sixties, so we

: 1387

00:51:36,527 --> 00:51:39,217

went more with that kind of James Deanie

: 1388

00:51:39,572 --> 00:51:39,982

Katie: Yep

: 1389

00:51:40,677 --> 00:51:41,257

Lizzy: big hair.

: 1390

00:51:41,647 --> 00:51:43,857

This was way more tame.

: 1391

00:51:44,157 --> 00:51:49,377

But he still, I mean he, he had, oh my

gosh, he just, he had some great lettuce.

: 1392

00:51:50,362 --> 00:51:50,572

Katie: Let us

: 1393

00:51:51,437 --> 00:51:51,727

Lizzy: Yeah,

: 1394

00:51:51,742 --> 00:51:53,452

Katie: he was just coming

off of Roadhouse and

: 1395

00:51:53,452 --> 00:51:56,632

he had that Exceptional

mullet in Roadhouse.

: 1396

00:51:56,797 --> 00:51:57,017

Chad: Yes.

: 1397

00:51:57,187 --> 00:51:58,247

Lizzy: But he can pull it off though.

: 1398

00:51:58,247 --> 00:51:58,847

He can pull it.

: 1399

00:51:58,902 --> 00:52:02,322

Katie: it's I hate him all it but but

I do like Patrick Swayze's hair in

: 1400

00:52:02,322 --> 00:52:07,832

it But yeah, it was just like a very

stark difference and then I was just

: 1401

00:52:07,842 --> 00:52:12,032

talking on the last episode, because

there's a dog, the opening scene

: 1402

00:52:12,042 --> 00:52:13,572

has a dog in the thing.

: 1403

00:52:14,532 --> 00:52:15,002

And I was

: 1404

00:52:15,402 --> 00:52:15,482

Lizzy: Hmm.

: 1405

00:52:15,782 --> 00:52:22,062

Katie: how anytime there's a pet in

a movie, I'm like, I don't like it.

: 1406

00:52:22,422 --> 00:52:25,082

Something's going to happen

to that dog or that cat.

: 1407

00:52:25,832 --> 00:52:26,392

And.

: 1408

00:52:26,827 --> 00:52:27,217

I'm wrong.

: 1409

00:52:27,787 --> 00:52:32,677

This is the one example that, because

it's odd that we're shown the cat, so

: 1410

00:52:32,677 --> 00:52:36,077

there's a cat, and so I had forgotten,

I hadn't seen this movie in a long time,

: 1411

00:52:36,097 --> 00:52:38,237

so I'm like, shit, something happen to

: 1412

00:52:38,237 --> 00:52:39,007

this cat?

: 1413

00:52:39,367 --> 00:52:40,227

But no, the cat does

: 1414

00:52:40,257 --> 00:52:41,517

play a part in the movie,

: 1415

00:52:41,522 --> 00:52:41,742

Lizzy: Yes.

: 1416

00:52:43,662 --> 00:52:46,632

Kind of saves Molly

somewhat you could say.

: 1417

00:52:46,732 --> 00:52:47,452

And then, yeah.

: 1418

00:52:48,487 --> 00:52:49,947

Chad: The extra senses of pets.

: 1419

00:52:49,947 --> 00:52:50,227

Yeah.

: 1420

00:52:50,617 --> 00:52:52,987

Doug does the dog die.com.

: 1421

00:52:53,217 --> 00:52:55,147

Very important website to check out.

: 1422

00:52:55,907 --> 00:52:56,987

it, it tells you

: 1423

00:52:58,047 --> 00:52:58,267

Yes.

: 1424

00:52:58,647 --> 00:52:58,867

Yes.

: 1425

00:52:59,187 --> 00:53:00,827

'cause one of our other

hosts, he has a rule.

: 1426

00:53:00,897 --> 00:53:06,387

He's like, if an animal dies, particularly

a dog in the movie, I'm giving it

: 1427

00:53:06,507 --> 00:53:06,867

a zero.

: 1428

00:53:07,187 --> 00:53:08,187

I may not even show up.

: 1429

00:53:08,407 --> 00:53:08,907

So we,

: 1430

00:53:09,617 --> 00:53:10,237

Lizzy: Oh my goodness.

: 1431

00:53:10,287 --> 00:53:10,747

Chad: But yeah,

: 1432

00:53:10,997 --> 00:53:11,267

Katie: It's

: 1433

00:53:11,467 --> 00:53:15,387

Chad: I I do love, I love the

mythology of the cats, having that

: 1434

00:53:15,597 --> 00:53:18,107

extra sensory and, and scratching the

: 1435

00:53:18,107 --> 00:53:20,227

guy's face or even

being able to sense Sam.

: 1436

00:53:20,287 --> 00:53:20,867

So that's cool.

: 1437

00:53:21,377 --> 00:53:21,697

Lizzy: I agree.

: 1438

00:53:21,857 --> 00:53:22,697

I think that's very cool.

: 1439

00:53:24,032 --> 00:53:25,642

Katie: Uh, what'd you guys

think of the apartment?

: 1440

00:53:26,321 --> 00:53:30,321

Lizzy: I mean, the apartment is, I

mean, I have to, I have to be completely

: 1441

00:53:30,321 --> 00:53:32,641

honest, I, I love the apartment.

: 1442

00:53:32,761 --> 00:53:34,081

I think the apartment's

absolutely gorgeous.

: 1443

00:53:34,261 --> 00:53:38,601

But my, I was felt like such a cynic

because my first initial thought was

: 1444

00:53:38,601 --> 00:53:40,601

like, what is this abandoned building?

: 1445

00:53:41,486 --> 00:53:43,186

In the middle of New York

City that you're building.

: 1446

00:53:43,206 --> 00:53:43,866

And it's huge.

: 1447

00:53:44,096 --> 00:53:44,826

It's so big.

: 1448

00:53:45,126 --> 00:53:48,506

And I'm, it's like that same

kind of concept in friends where

: 1449

00:53:48,506 --> 00:53:49,706

you're like, Monica was a chef.

: 1450

00:53:49,706 --> 00:53:52,386

There's no way she was ever gonna

be able to afford that apartment

: 1451

00:53:53,116 --> 00:53:53,466

.

Chad: Right.

: 1452

00:53:53,486 --> 00:53:55,146

Lizzy: But I in.

: 1453

00:53:55,166 --> 00:53:59,386

But in terms of the aesthetic of

the apartment, I love the, and this

: 1454

00:53:59,386 --> 00:54:01,986

was something that stuck out to

me as a kid too, is in her front

: 1455

00:54:01,986 --> 00:54:07,666

door, she has these like glass,

kind of like meshy glass windows

: 1456

00:54:08,176 --> 00:54:10,466

that just meet right up to her door.

: 1457

00:54:11,316 --> 00:54:14,926

There's many scenes where they

highlight that, that's the backdrop

: 1458

00:54:14,946 --> 00:54:16,746

of a conversation she might be having.

: 1459

00:54:17,526 --> 00:54:18,586

and then I love the steps.

: 1460

00:54:19,026 --> 00:54:21,906

I mean, I, they would never be able

to raise children with those steps.

: 1461

00:54:22,126 --> 00:54:26,226

I'm telling you what, but I, I do really,

really love the floating staircase

: 1462

00:54:26,877 --> 00:54:31,607

Chad: Yeah, it's, it's the house Hunter's

meme of, I'm a Sunday school teacher

: 1463

00:54:31,627 --> 00:54:33,327

and my wife hangs potatoes as art.

: 1464

00:54:33,707 --> 00:54:36,207

Our budget is, is $3 million.

: 1465

00:54:36,432 --> 00:54:36,652

Lizzy: Yes.

: 1466

00:54:36,767 --> 00:54:38,457

Chad: what, did this happen?

: 1467

00:54:38,477 --> 00:54:39,497

But you know what, it's fine.

: 1468

00:54:39,927 --> 00:54:40,457

It's fine.

: 1469

00:54:41,517 --> 00:54:41,737

was

: 1470

00:54:41,782 --> 00:54:42,312

Katie: same.

: 1471

00:54:42,517 --> 00:54:42,817

Chad: Go ahead.

: 1472

00:54:42,972 --> 00:54:44,382

Katie: now about whatever city.

: 1473

00:54:44,382 --> 00:54:48,452

I mean, everywhere, I feel like

But Like a closet under the

: 1474

00:54:48,452 --> 00:54:50,372

stairs is like the listing for

: 1475

00:54:50,372 --> 00:54:51,772

what a regular person could

: 1476

00:54:51,902 --> 00:54:52,192

Lizzy: Yeah.

: 1477

00:54:52,392 --> 00:54:52,682

Chad: Yeah.

: 1478

00:54:53,862 --> 00:54:54,152

Lizzy: Yeah.

: 1479

00:54:55,512 --> 00:55:01,502

Katie: But I had the, I was sort of like,

how much money do bankers make in the 90s?

: 1480

00:55:01,582 --> 00:55:03,942

Because she's not, she hasn't made it

: 1481

00:55:03,942 --> 00:55:04,142

yet.

: 1482

00:55:04,162 --> 00:55:04,892

She's an artist.

: 1483

00:55:05,822 --> 00:55:06,112

Chad: Yeah.

: 1484

00:55:06,182 --> 00:55:06,642

Katie: there is no way.

: 1485

00:55:06,642 --> 00:55:09,462

It's literally in the

middle of New York City.

: 1486

00:55:09,762 --> 00:55:13,002

It's in Soho, like a

sought after neighborhood.

: 1487

00:55:13,272 --> 00:55:19,612

I did see a note like in the trivia

that in: 2015

: 1488

00:55:19,612 --> 00:55:22,242

a while ago still, so who knows

what it would be listed at now.

: 1489

00:55:22,602 --> 00:55:23,102

It is a

: 1490

00:55:23,552 --> 00:55:26,142

4, 300 square foot loft,

: 1491

00:55:26,802 --> 00:55:27,022

Lizzy: Wow.

: 1492

00:55:27,152 --> 00:55:30,332

Katie: huge, and the address

is 102 Prince Street.

: 1493

00:55:31,212 --> 00:55:34,152

million in: 2015

: 1494

00:55:34,162 --> 00:55:36,612

So probably like 15 now,

maybe, I don't know.

: 1495

00:55:37,402 --> 00:55:39,522

It has three bedrooms, three and a half

: 1496

00:55:39,532 --> 00:55:41,562

baths and a subzero refrigerator.

: 1497

00:55:42,272 --> 00:55:43,012

So I don't think they would

: 1498

00:55:43,017 --> 00:55:44,417

Lizzy: Oh, nope.

: 1499

00:55:44,647 --> 00:55:44,937

Nope.

: 1500

00:55:46,136 --> 00:55:46,426

Katie: it's a

: 1501

00:55:46,631 --> 00:55:48,671

Chad: I mean, $4 million

if you skim it off.

: 1502

00:55:48,771 --> 00:55:48,991

So

: 1503

00:55:49,331 --> 00:55:51,551

he, he wasn't a corrupt banker though,

: 1504

00:55:51,586 --> 00:55:51,906

Katie: that's

: 1505

00:55:52,011 --> 00:55:52,231

Chad: so

: 1506

00:55:52,436 --> 00:55:55,896

Katie: That's what his buddy

Carl was supposed to speaking of.

: 1507

00:55:56,381 --> 00:55:56,671

Chad: yeah.

: 1508

00:55:56,816 --> 00:55:58,546

Katie: That was one of

the things I was like.

: 1509

00:55:59,571 --> 00:56:05,881

Clearly, they were friends, but Carl

so easily plots to kill his friend.

: 1510

00:56:05,891 --> 00:56:09,041

I mean, we didn't see any attempt

to get the code outside of just,

: 1511

00:56:09,871 --> 00:56:12,831

learns that Sam changes

the code that he needs to

: 1512

00:56:12,991 --> 00:56:13,411

Lizzy: Mm-hmm.

: 1513

00:56:13,921 --> 00:56:20,271

Katie: So, Carl's laundering money

for, we assume the mob, and he

: 1514

00:56:20,271 --> 00:56:23,371

doesn't have this code anymore that

he needs to do that, so he kills Sam.

: 1515

00:56:24,061 --> 00:56:26,601

immediately he goes from, oh crap,

: 1516

00:56:26,661 --> 00:56:30,031

you changed the code, I guess

I have to kill you, and they're

: 1517

00:56:30,086 --> 00:56:30,426

Lizzy: You know,

: 1518

00:56:30,556 --> 00:56:32,036

Chad: there's some regret, right?

: 1519

00:56:32,186 --> 00:56:32,876

Like he

: 1520

00:56:32,876 --> 00:56:35,036

tells Willie, you were just

supposed to get the wallet.

: 1521

00:56:35,456 --> 00:56:40,076

Lizzy: yes, I was gonna say that I think

that, I think his intention was for Willie

: 1522

00:56:40,076 --> 00:56:44,356

just to mug him, but then things kind of,

when Sam fought back, Willie panicked.

: 1523

00:56:44,576 --> 00:56:48,116

But I, I think that there, I

have to imagine at least hope

: 1524

00:56:48,116 --> 00:56:49,796

that there was some regret there.

: 1525

00:56:50,536 --> 00:56:55,836

But at the end of the day, Carl

is a desperate man and, and

: 1526

00:56:55,836 --> 00:56:59,156

desperate people do really horrible

things in the heat of the moment.

: 1527

00:56:59,396 --> 00:57:01,076

I mean, he is, doesn't

make him a good guy.

: 1528

00:57:01,096 --> 00:57:01,956

He is an awful guy.

: 1529

00:57:02,056 --> 00:57:06,156

But I think, um, he was probably

too worried about getting

: 1530

00:57:06,466 --> 00:57:08,276

whacked by the WA mob and.

: 1531

00:57:08,601 --> 00:57:09,611

Katie: That is true.

: 1532

00:57:09,641 --> 00:57:11,001

I did consider that as well.

: 1533

00:57:11,001 --> 00:57:11,161

But

: 1534

00:57:11,161 --> 00:57:13,741

then he immediately,

makes a move for Molly,

: 1535

00:57:14,101 --> 00:57:14,321

Lizzy: Yes.

: 1536

00:57:14,911 --> 00:57:18,121

It's so bad he probably

always had a thing for it.

: 1537

00:57:18,241 --> 00:57:21,241

'cause they were kind of, they

painted this picture like they were

: 1538

00:57:22,351 --> 00:57:26,371

like the three Musketeers kind of

in this, not, not necessarily a

: 1539

00:57:26,371 --> 00:57:29,011

throuple in the fact that there was

no romantic involvement between the

: 1540

00:57:29,011 --> 00:57:34,451

three of them, but that there was

this closeness to all three of them.

: 1541

00:57:34,831 --> 00:57:39,571

And I think they were trying to set that

picture in the very beginning as them

: 1542

00:57:40,881 --> 00:57:42,851

demolishing the apartment to rebuild it.

: 1543

00:57:42,851 --> 00:57:43,651

And so, I don't know.

: 1544

00:57:43,691 --> 00:57:46,891

I think I, I am sure that there was

always an attraction there, but it

: 1545

00:57:46,891 --> 00:57:53,211

definitely does highlight his squirminess

as to the fact that you would just move

: 1546

00:57:53,211 --> 00:57:57,251

in and plus she's like vulnerable and

it's, she's heartbroken and it just kind

: 1547

00:57:57,251 --> 00:58:01,131

of felt like he was completely taking

advantage of her in in that moment.

: 1548

00:58:01,311 --> 00:58:02,211

It just felt icky.

: 1549

00:58:03,041 --> 00:58:03,191

Katie: it

: 1550

00:58:03,411 --> 00:58:03,831

Chad: All right,

: 1551

00:58:04,021 --> 00:58:06,391

with the coffee spilled

on the shirt and then

: 1552

00:58:06,391 --> 00:58:06,591

just

: 1553

00:58:06,886 --> 00:58:07,106

Lizzy: Yes.

: 1554

00:58:07,111 --> 00:58:07,791

Chad: taking it off.

: 1555

00:58:07,901 --> 00:58:09,481

Katie: Like he's gonna seduce her

: 1556

00:58:09,486 --> 00:58:10,786

Lizzy: Let me just show you my muscles

: 1557

00:58:10,901 --> 00:58:11,131

Katie: know.

: 1558

00:58:11,961 --> 00:58:12,061

I

: 1559

00:58:12,071 --> 00:58:12,521

Chad: Does that

: 1560

00:58:12,521 --> 00:58:12,681

work?

: 1561

00:58:12,881 --> 00:58:13,161

I mean,

: 1562

00:58:13,391 --> 00:58:13,851

Katie: well,

: 1563

00:58:14,226 --> 00:58:14,386

Lizzy: grieving.

: 1564

00:58:14,786 --> 00:58:18,026

I feel like that's, I mean that if

it was different world, different

: 1565

00:58:18,026 --> 00:58:22,946

time, maybe the, the shirtless coffee

would work, but not in that moment.

: 1566

00:58:22,966 --> 00:58:26,906

You're like, I'm literally mourning

the death of the love of my life.

: 1567

00:58:26,936 --> 00:58:27,466

Like what?

: 1568

00:58:27,766 --> 00:58:29,506

I'm not, I'm not a monkey.

: 1569

00:58:29,686 --> 00:58:34,006

I'm not gonna see that there's muscles

in front of me and just respond like it's

: 1570

00:58:34,461 --> 00:58:37,641

Katie: plus her, her man that died looked

: 1571

00:58:37,861 --> 00:58:38,821

really good.

: 1572

00:58:38,821 --> 00:58:39,871

So I mean, unless you're

: 1573

00:58:39,881 --> 00:58:42,821

bringing something extra, I don't know.

: 1574

00:58:43,196 --> 00:58:43,486

Lizzy: Yeah.

: 1575

00:58:43,631 --> 00:58:43,981

Chad: right?

: 1576

00:58:44,061 --> 00:58:46,281

Katie: see how where his

thought process was going.

: 1577

00:58:46,471 --> 00:58:47,011

Anyway.

: 1578

00:58:47,794 --> 00:58:52,434

I'm curious what you guys think

about the shot when Sam We hear a

: 1579

00:58:52,434 --> 00:58:58,504

gunshot, we don't see it, and then

we see Sam running after the robber.

: 1580

00:58:59,744 --> 00:59:00,684

He is a ghost.

: 1581

00:59:00,694 --> 00:59:03,544

He is dead, though, but

he doesn't realize it yet.

: 1582

00:59:03,734 --> 00:59:08,754

So, was that shot, again, another

little, don't know, what'd

: 1583

00:59:08,754 --> 00:59:09,774

you guys think about that?

: 1584

00:59:09,784 --> 00:59:12,684

was it heavy handed, or was it just right?

: 1585

00:59:13,774 --> 00:59:16,634

Showing the audience like

giving us that little delay

: 1586

00:59:16,634 --> 00:59:17,704

like, oh, maybe he didn't die.

: 1587

00:59:17,764 --> 00:59:18,364

Oh, he

: 1588

00:59:18,364 --> 00:59:19,124

did and he's a ghost.

: 1589

00:59:19,834 --> 00:59:20,574

Lizzy: Oh, I loved it.

: 1590

00:59:20,734 --> 00:59:28,254

I, I felt like I really love that they,

with every character, they, you get to

: 1591

00:59:28,254 --> 00:59:31,614

find out as they do that they've died.

: 1592

00:59:31,954 --> 00:59:35,894

You know, with Carl, I think we, we kind

of, we kind of know with Carl because we

: 1593

00:59:35,894 --> 00:59:39,494

see the thing fall down, but the running

ahead, I remember the first time seeing

: 1594

00:59:39,494 --> 00:59:45,339

that just the idea that he would've died

would've never occurred to me because

: 1595

00:59:45,399 --> 00:59:46,899

of the fact that you see him running.

: 1596

00:59:47,079 --> 00:59:48,539

And it's the same thing with Willie.

: 1597

00:59:48,539 --> 00:59:51,579

You know, you don't actually see the

accident, so you see Willie standing

: 1598

00:59:51,579 --> 00:59:55,619

there and then he sees his, I think

that the idea that they see their

: 1599

00:59:55,649 --> 01:00:01,749

body and realize that they're dead and

you get to watch that is, um, eerie.

: 1600

01:00:02,049 --> 01:00:05,749

And because of that, just

really enjoyable to watch.

: 1601

01:00:05,749 --> 01:00:06,749

It adds to the entertainment.

: 1602

01:00:07,934 --> 01:00:09,384

Chad: Yeah, I love the fake out.

: 1603

01:00:09,564 --> 01:00:14,264

And because you see Patrick Swayze,

Sam running after Willie, you start to

: 1604

01:00:14,264 --> 01:00:15,784

wonder, because Molly's out of the frame.

: 1605

01:00:17,204 --> 01:00:18,424

did the gunshot go off?

: 1606

01:00:18,424 --> 01:00:22,624

Did it go, did it kill Molly when

there was a Japanese remake of this

: 1607

01:00:22,964 --> 01:00:23,404

Katie: Yeah

: 1608

01:00:23,644 --> 01:00:24,904

Chad: and they switched genders,

: 1609

01:00:25,324 --> 01:00:26,744

it was the woman that was the ghost.

: 1610

01:00:26,884 --> 01:00:28,824

It was back in your arms again.

: 1611

01:00:29,959 --> 01:00:30,249

Lizzy: Nice.

: 1612

01:00:30,644 --> 01:00:32,184

Chad: you know that I, I like it.

: 1613

01:00:32,374 --> 01:00:33,224

Katie: also like it.

: 1614

01:00:33,244 --> 01:00:38,214

I can just see audiences like if somebody

hasn't seen it before It's one of

: 1615

01:00:38,214 --> 01:00:44,174

those things that maybe Because that's

not done as much nowadays in movies.

: 1616

01:00:44,204 --> 01:00:47,064

I don't know, I just wondered

as I was watching it if, if a

: 1617

01:00:47,074 --> 01:00:49,904

brand new audience that saw it

might think it was heavy handed.

: 1618

01:00:49,934 --> 01:00:52,044

I personally also very

much appreciated it.

: 1619

01:00:52,114 --> 01:00:54,344

So, I'm glad that we're

all aligned on that.

: 1620

01:00:55,087 --> 01:01:00,837

And I also, in the same way, I

kind of like the, the, there's a

: 1621

01:01:00,847 --> 01:01:03,607

few, they're not really montages,

but they're little scenes.

: 1622

01:01:03,987 --> 01:01:10,447

throughout the movie where he encounters

other ghosts they teach him tips and

: 1623

01:01:10,447 --> 01:01:12,397

tricks on like basically how to be a

: 1624

01:01:12,397 --> 01:01:12,927

ghost.

: 1625

01:01:13,714 --> 01:01:15,654

Chad: Oh, the subway ghost is fantastic.

: 1626

01:01:15,974 --> 01:01:16,714

Lizzy: You so creepy.

: 1627

01:01:17,729 --> 01:01:19,819

Chad: He's got such manic energy,

: 1628

01:01:19,839 --> 01:01:20,369

Katie: Mm hmm.

: 1629

01:01:20,729 --> 01:01:23,659

Chad: from the beginning of Get

off my train, and then you'd get

: 1630

01:01:23,659 --> 01:01:26,379

that little subtle, I like that

they don't hold your hand, but

: 1631

01:01:26,379 --> 01:01:27,099

he breaks the window.

: 1632

01:01:27,199 --> 01:01:27,359

Katie: Mm

: 1633

01:01:27,529 --> 01:01:27,969

Chad: wait a minute.

: 1634

01:01:28,049 --> 01:01:28,649

Katie: you do that?

: 1635

01:01:29,124 --> 01:01:29,344

Lizzy: Yes.

: 1636

01:01:29,549 --> 01:01:29,839

Chad: Yeah.

: 1637

01:01:30,299 --> 01:01:31,799

And so going back and him

: 1638

01:01:32,159 --> 01:01:36,839

remembering and just the rage of knocking

people's papers out of their hands

: 1639

01:01:36,959 --> 01:01:37,349

Katie: hmm.

: 1640

01:01:37,699 --> 01:01:41,799

Chad: all these other objects,

whatever's going on, I think he

: 1641

01:01:41,799 --> 01:01:46,159

almost gets the impression there's

a more sinister tone of, you don't

: 1642

01:01:46,269 --> 01:01:48,279

resolve whatever's going to happen in

: 1643

01:01:48,279 --> 01:01:50,479

this life, gonna go insane.

: 1644

01:01:51,289 --> 01:01:51,369

Lizzy: Hmm,

: 1645

01:01:52,019 --> 01:01:58,279

Chad: you're capacity is gonna diminish

you're just gonna be this ball of rage.

: 1646

01:01:58,759 --> 01:02:02,919

I don't know, I, I like to think of

that guy as a somewhat normal guy that

: 1647

01:02:02,919 --> 01:02:05,239

couldn't to resolve whatever it was

: 1648

01:02:05,399 --> 01:02:05,619

Katie: Yeah,

: 1649

01:02:05,779 --> 01:02:06,199

Chad: and now

: 1650

01:02:06,199 --> 01:02:06,999

he's just stuck.

: 1651

01:02:07,044 --> 01:02:07,539

Katie: Yeah.

: 1652

01:02:07,549 --> 01:02:07,839

Chad: Yeah.

: 1653

01:02:08,552 --> 01:02:09,652

Lizzy: that's a good way to put it.

: 1654

01:02:09,692 --> 01:02:13,532

I never actually thought about

it like that, but that actually

: 1655

01:02:13,532 --> 01:02:15,132

makes complete and total sense.

: 1656

01:02:15,292 --> 01:02:15,732

I love that.

: 1657

01:02:15,762 --> 01:02:18,572

It's like the wanderers of

people who are just never able

: 1658

01:02:18,572 --> 01:02:21,172

to finish their business, and

: 1659

01:02:21,492 --> 01:02:22,032

Katie: Mm hmm.

: 1660

01:02:22,172 --> 01:02:22,572

Lizzy: I like that.

: 1661

01:02:23,567 --> 01:02:23,857

Chad: Yeah.

: 1662

01:02:23,917 --> 01:02:27,257

Now, what would Patrick

Swizzy would Sam say?

: 1663

01:02:27,437 --> 01:02:32,937

Say the mob kills, his, his

buddy say the mob kills him.

: 1664

01:02:33,167 --> 01:02:34,017

Does he leave?

: 1665

01:02:34,197 --> 01:02:34,757

is he done?

: 1666

01:02:34,867 --> 01:02:41,037

Because he, pretty much, as soon as his

buddy Carl is killed, he gets the bright

: 1667

01:02:41,087 --> 01:02:45,477

white and off he goes, says his goodbye.

: 1668

01:02:45,557 --> 01:02:45,777

Katie: Well,

: 1669

01:02:45,777 --> 01:02:46,157

Chad: if the.

: 1670

01:02:46,347 --> 01:02:51,717

Katie: his reason for staying, his,

job, so to speak, is to protect Molly.

: 1671

01:02:51,937 --> 01:02:52,317

Cause there's

: 1672

01:02:52,432 --> 01:02:52,792

Lizzy: I agree.

: 1673

01:02:53,837 --> 01:02:58,037

Katie: He learns that Willy's gonna go

back to the apartment and Molly's there.

: 1674

01:02:58,387 --> 01:03:02,457

and then he finds out that both

Otome and Molly are in danger.

: 1675

01:03:02,457 --> 01:03:03,937

So he feels like he needs to...

: 1676

01:03:04,897 --> 01:03:08,627

Protect now Otome, but initially Molly.

: 1677

01:03:08,807 --> 01:03:10,107

So, protect those two.

: 1678

01:03:10,337 --> 01:03:14,217

He did, and then he's free

from his ghostly being

: 1679

01:03:14,227 --> 01:03:16,557

to the white light.

: 1680

01:03:17,722 --> 01:03:18,702

Lizzy: Yep, I agree.

: 1681

01:03:18,707 --> 01:03:22,637

Katie: before doing so, I really

loved the ending because, yes, he...

: 1682

01:03:23,227 --> 01:03:29,827

There's a moment right before then where

they both can hear him and feel him.

: 1683

01:03:29,827 --> 01:03:32,657

I'm not sure if they're able to

see him or not, but he kisses her.

: 1684

01:03:32,677 --> 01:03:34,997

He kisses Molly.

: 1685

01:03:36,082 --> 01:03:43,542

her for the first and only and last,

like first and last time that he loves

: 1686

01:03:43,542 --> 01:03:45,572

her because he never says, I love

: 1687

01:03:45,572 --> 01:03:45,812

you.

: 1688

01:03:45,822 --> 01:03:48,062

He has historically said, ditto

: 1689

01:03:48,442 --> 01:03:49,192

instead.

: 1690

01:03:50,122 --> 01:03:53,472

And he also gives like a nice little

send off for Otome that her mother

: 1691

01:03:53,472 --> 01:04:00,532

would be proud because she does actually

have the gift, she's been just like,

: 1692

01:04:01,417 --> 01:04:06,237

Pulling the, the wool over people's

eyes up until now, but now she has

: 1693

01:04:06,237 --> 01:04:07,167

the actual gift.

: 1694

01:04:07,864 --> 01:04:08,084

Lizzy: Oh.

: 1695

01:04:08,314 --> 01:04:09,634

Chad: I like that she's the

: 1696

01:04:10,074 --> 01:04:10,594

charlatan.

: 1697

01:04:10,794 --> 01:04:14,434

I, I had read that they wanted her to

be an actual psychic, but it, it's so

: 1698

01:04:14,434 --> 01:04:16,314

much funnier when she's conning the

: 1699

01:04:16,734 --> 01:04:20,154

Latino family and she just starts

rattling off traditional Latino

: 1700

01:04:20,184 --> 01:04:20,474

Lizzy: Yeah.

: 1701

01:04:20,504 --> 01:04:20,904

Katie: Yeah.

: 1702

01:04:21,054 --> 01:04:23,674

Chad: So she gets to Maria and

they're like, oh yeah, that one.

: 1703

01:04:25,344 --> 01:04:26,154

Sure, sure.

: 1704

01:04:26,334 --> 01:04:27,874

But now she can't turn it off.

: 1705

01:04:27,984 --> 01:04:29,864

Katie: she brought the comic relief.

: 1706

01:04:30,529 --> 01:04:35,459

And I loved how you pointed out,

Lizzie, the chemistry between

: 1707

01:04:35,469 --> 01:04:37,059

Patrick Swayze and Whoopi Goldberg.

: 1708

01:04:37,559 --> 01:04:45,479

Because, I, I didn't feel like

there was a problem with chemistry

: 1709

01:04:45,479 --> 01:04:46,629

between Demi and Patrick.

: 1710

01:04:46,629 --> 01:04:51,339

There wasn't a problem, I just

felt like the chemistry was better

: 1711

01:04:51,389 --> 01:04:53,649

with Whoopi than Demi, somehow.

: 1712

01:04:54,625 --> 01:04:56,265

what did you think about the

chemistry with he and da?

: 1713

01:04:56,275 --> 01:04:58,825

I didn't think there was anything

wrong with it, but it wasn't

: 1714

01:04:58,825 --> 01:05:01,575

like the most spectacular

chemistry with Demi.

: 1715

01:05:02,190 --> 01:05:03,430

Lizzy: I, I like their chemistry.

: 1716

01:05:03,630 --> 01:05:07,630

I think that there's so much going on

in the beginning about her feeling.

: 1717

01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:11,870

There was some parts that kind of

confused me a little bit because she's

: 1718

01:05:11,870 --> 01:05:16,110

trying to push him into like really

committing, like saying I love you.

: 1719

01:05:16,110 --> 01:05:20,200

You know, they have that conversation

right before he gets, before he,

: 1720

01:05:20,340 --> 01:05:22,440

he gets shot and you know, he's.

: 1721

01:05:23,660 --> 01:05:24,890

She's like, you know, you never say it.

: 1722

01:05:24,930 --> 01:05:26,010

I really want you to say it.

: 1723

01:05:26,310 --> 01:05:29,690

And so you can sense that

she's really trying to, to

: 1724

01:05:29,690 --> 01:05:31,050

take that next step with him.

: 1725

01:05:31,279 --> 01:05:36,200

However, just a little bit prior,

they, they're talking about marriage

: 1726

01:05:36,220 --> 01:05:38,240

and he's like, you know, you never

wanted to talk about it before.

: 1727

01:05:38,420 --> 01:05:42,040

So it's I think she's trying

to take this step with him.

: 1728

01:05:42,510 --> 01:05:45,600

Like all, it's almost like she's

trying to just go from crawling

: 1729

01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:49,320

to running a little bit with him

of being like, let's get married.

: 1730

01:05:49,580 --> 01:05:50,840

You don't say, I love you enough.

: 1731

01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:51,680

let's go for it.

: 1732

01:05:51,860 --> 01:05:57,000

And so I think that I imagined that

the purpose of that was to try to.

: 1733

01:05:58,450 --> 01:06:03,040

Maybe somehow set the tone between the,

the I love You and the ditto kind of like

: 1734

01:06:03,260 --> 01:06:06,600

sub storyline between the two of them,

of that even though they live together

: 1735

01:06:06,660 --> 01:06:12,279

and they are in love, there's kind of

something holding Sam back and he's not

: 1736

01:06:12,279 --> 01:06:18,760

able to really fully realize the depth of

his love for her until he's at the point

: 1737

01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:24,240

of losing her, which then kind of takes

him to the final end of the arc where he

: 1738

01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:26,040

says, I love you, and it's so passionate.

: 1739

01:06:26,180 --> 01:06:29,279

And then she, you know, responds

with Ditto, which I just think is

: 1740

01:06:29,279 --> 01:06:31,880

like ironic and adorable and perfect.

: 1741

01:06:32,100 --> 01:06:38,680

And it's just like her way of being able

to say now I see, I, I didn't need you

: 1742

01:06:38,680 --> 01:06:41,410

to, to tell me how you felt through love.

: 1743

01:06:41,730 --> 01:06:42,490

I can just feel it.

: 1744

01:06:42,490 --> 01:06:44,050

And it just, is it, it's there.

: 1745

01:06:44,270 --> 01:06:49,170

And so I, I do, I liked their chemistry,

but I can agree with you that it

: 1746

01:06:49,170 --> 01:06:52,210

felt like they weren't fully going

there, possibly for that reason.

: 1747

01:06:52,490 --> 01:06:55,130

'cause at the end it's

there like full throttle.

: 1748

01:06:55,165 --> 01:06:55,995

Katie: That's a good point.

: 1749

01:06:56,235 --> 01:07:01,185

Lizzy: but I think I had mentioned earlier

about, about how much I love the dynamic

: 1750

01:07:01,185 --> 01:07:03,545

between Whoopi and, and Patrick Swayze.

: 1751

01:07:03,545 --> 01:07:08,425

To me, that's like where the fire really

is and it's so perfect that she was kind

: 1752

01:07:08,425 --> 01:07:13,225

of a con artist because it creates this

like confusion and she's trying to learn

: 1753

01:07:13,325 --> 01:07:15,665

as we are, and it's just, it's epic.

: 1754

01:07:15,825 --> 01:07:16,225

I love it.

: 1755

01:07:16,913 --> 01:07:20,723

Chad: Yeah, oay gets the arc where

Molly doesn't really, she doesn't

: 1756

01:07:20,723 --> 01:07:22,403

have that arc until the very end.

: 1757

01:07:22,433 --> 01:07:25,763

Like you said, with

the ditto, you get Oay.

: 1758

01:07:26,688 --> 01:07:28,028

All these different moments of,

: 1759

01:07:29,078 --> 01:07:31,188

she's, just compelled by sheer annoyance

: 1760

01:07:31,528 --> 01:07:31,988

at first

: 1761

01:07:31,998 --> 01:07:32,278

Katie: yeah.

: 1762

01:07:32,448 --> 01:07:32,668

Lizzy: Yes.

: 1763

01:07:33,248 --> 01:07:35,348

Chad: and, and she has to

go through all these things.

: 1764

01:07:35,468 --> 01:07:36,308

I don't want to go to heaven.

: 1765

01:07:36,708 --> 01:07:38,028

I want to go cash this check.

: 1766

01:07:38,368 --> 01:07:43,308

And then she's gotta give $4 million to

the nuns, and he's slowly making her a

: 1767

01:07:43,308 --> 01:07:44,628

more honest person

: 1768

01:07:44,908 --> 01:07:45,278

Katie: And she

: 1769

01:07:45,528 --> 01:07:45,748

Chad: and,

: 1770

01:07:46,398 --> 01:07:46,818

Lizzy: Mm-hmm.

: 1771

01:07:46,828 --> 01:07:49,998

Katie: it's a really great

journey, because he's such a

: 1772

01:07:50,328 --> 01:07:52,938

straight laced, honest person.

: 1773

01:07:52,938 --> 01:07:56,538

And I, yeah, it's such a

fun, I do love their dynamic.

: 1774

01:07:56,808 --> 01:08:02,958

Speaking of the nuns though, he makes

her give the 4 million to the nuns who

: 1775

01:08:02,958 --> 01:08:06,558

have the exact same habit as she will

play two years later in Sister Act.

: 1776

01:08:06,848 --> 01:08:07,838

Wasn't that fun?

: 1777

01:08:08,498 --> 01:08:08,788

Chad: Yeah.

: 1778

01:08:09,048 --> 01:08:10,518

Katie: Didn't you think

she, he should have

: 1779

01:08:10,518 --> 01:08:11,748

let her have some of the money?

: 1780

01:08:12,788 --> 01:08:13,828

I was like, go

: 1781

01:08:13,923 --> 01:08:14,123

Lizzy: know.

: 1782

01:08:15,308 --> 01:08:15,588

Katie: go

: 1783

01:08:15,623 --> 01:08:16,313

Lizzy: I'll never know.

: 1784

01:08:16,358 --> 01:08:16,938

Katie: cashier's check.

: 1785

01:08:16,938 --> 01:08:17,298

Yeah.

: 1786

01:08:17,298 --> 01:08:18,508

Like give her something.

: 1787

01:08:19,133 --> 01:08:19,423

Lizzy: Yeah.

: 1788

01:08:19,423 --> 01:08:22,983

Even if it's just like 50 grand or

something like that, like a small amount.

: 1789

01:08:23,103 --> 01:08:26,622

I do appreciate, he's like the,

there you cannot have a paper trail.

: 1790

01:08:26,733 --> 01:08:30,233

Like you don't want any of this dirty

money but I think it kind of goes back

: 1791

01:08:30,233 --> 01:08:34,723

to Chad's point of, I, for me, I would

have got probably been upset as well

: 1792

01:08:34,813 --> 01:08:39,563

being like, I'm holding a check for $4

million in my hand and you were telling

: 1793

01:08:39,563 --> 01:08:41,962

me I have to give the entire thing away.

: 1794

01:08:42,343 --> 01:08:43,723

But his response was perfect.

: 1795

01:08:43,823 --> 01:08:44,843

He was like, look at it this way.

: 1796

01:08:45,223 --> 01:08:45,723

Go to heaven.

: 1797

01:08:46,063 --> 01:08:48,243

And and that's, it was kind of amazing.

: 1798

01:08:48,643 --> 01:08:55,603

'cause you have to imagine that that's

like the ultimate kind of bummer of

: 1799

01:08:55,633 --> 01:08:59,913

being able to see this huge feature for

you and then just giving it away and,

: 1800

01:08:59,973 --> 01:09:01,712

and one handoff of a piece of paper.

: 1801

01:09:01,933 --> 01:09:04,462

But I think, it's the

right thing to do though.

: 1802

01:09:04,622 --> 01:09:06,143

I, I still kind of stand by it.

: 1803

01:09:06,143 --> 01:09:07,823

It would probably would've

felt icky to keep it.

: 1804

01:09:08,417 --> 01:09:09,087

Katie: it would have.

: 1805

01:09:09,127 --> 01:09:11,698

I'm just saying like real,

it's the perfect way to do

: 1806

01:09:11,698 --> 01:09:13,028

it for the movie for sure.

: 1807

01:09:13,497 --> 01:09:16,188

But in real life, it'd be like, can

I have a little bit of this please?

: 1808

01:09:17,023 --> 01:09:21,332

Lizzy: Gimme a just a little, just

like maybe like my car, you know?

: 1809

01:09:23,028 --> 01:09:23,917

Katie: exactly.

: 1810

01:09:24,183 --> 01:09:24,383

Chad: you

: 1811

01:09:25,263 --> 01:09:29,823

can tell just by the bank scene, she

hasn't really encountered a lot of money

: 1812

01:09:29,823 --> 01:09:31,383

because they say, how do you want this?

: 1813

01:09:31,763 --> 01:09:33,303

She says, tens and twenties,

: 1814

01:09:33,318 --> 01:09:33,558

Katie: Yeah.

: 1815

01:09:33,558 --> 01:09:33,738

Yeah.

: 1816

01:09:33,738 --> 01:09:34,077

Yeah.

: 1817

01:09:34,093 --> 01:09:37,183

Chad: it's like they're not gonna

have $4 million of tens and twenties.

: 1818

01:09:37,648 --> 01:09:37,978

Katie: When

: 1819

01:09:37,978 --> 01:09:39,618

we see her neighborhood, like

: 1820

01:09:39,618 --> 01:09:39,868

she

: 1821

01:09:40,002 --> 01:09:40,223

Chad: yes.

: 1822

01:09:40,298 --> 01:09:41,408

Katie: doesn't live in a ritzy

: 1823

01:09:41,408 --> 01:09:41,908

place.

: 1824

01:09:42,148 --> 01:09:42,608

So yeah.

: 1825

01:09:43,140 --> 01:09:44,781

Chad: give her some tens

and twenties out of that.

: 1826

01:09:44,901 --> 01:09:45,481

Lizzy: That's right.

: 1827

01:09:45,571 --> 01:09:45,861

Chad: Cash.

: 1828

01:09:46,251 --> 01:09:46,401

Katie: Uh,

: 1829

01:09:46,551 --> 01:09:47,621

Chad: 3.9 million.

: 1830

01:09:49,178 --> 01:09:51,358

Katie: I was kind of, I don't know.

: 1831

01:09:51,368 --> 01:09:56,708

This is just me being silly,

but I was disappointed by

: 1832

01:09:56,718 --> 01:09:59,738

Demi's outfits in this movie.

: 1833

01:10:00,658 --> 01:10:05,228

Now, I appreciate it because

I think it's realistic.

: 1834

01:10:05,238 --> 01:10:07,748

That's probably what Molly would wear.

: 1835

01:10:08,088 --> 01:10:08,788

It, you know, if this.

: 1836

01:10:09,258 --> 01:10:10,598

Character existed.

: 1837

01:10:10,598 --> 01:10:13,648

That's probably what she would wear, but

they were all extremely unflattering.

: 1838

01:10:14,008 --> 01:10:18,378

And I was hoping for some more

awesome nineties fashion, but

: 1839

01:10:18,388 --> 01:10:19,558

Odomay is the one that kind

: 1840

01:10:19,558 --> 01:10:23,198

of shines fashion wise, I guess, flashy

: 1841

01:10:23,568 --> 01:10:24,088

Lizzy: I can agree.

: 1842

01:10:24,248 --> 01:10:28,448

I think Molly, I mean this is like

no shade or anything to anybody

: 1843

01:10:28,448 --> 01:10:32,368

who's style like this, but between

the hair and the clothes, she was

: 1844

01:10:32,368 --> 01:10:34,488

like a nine-year-old boy just

: 1845

01:10:34,508 --> 01:10:35,327

Katie: for sure.

: 1846

01:10:36,168 --> 01:10:36,788

Lizzy: no, I think

: 1847

01:10:36,858 --> 01:10:38,888

Katie: they saw her hair cut short too.

: 1848

01:10:39,238 --> 01:10:39,528

Chad: Yeah.

: 1849

01:10:40,248 --> 01:10:42,048

Lizzy: I actually think

her hair is adorable.

: 1850

01:10:42,588 --> 01:10:45,848

She has got, I was having this

conversation with Erin like that

: 1851

01:10:46,058 --> 01:10:50,098

there are probably, she is like the 1%

: 1852

01:10:51,128 --> 01:10:55,388

Of people that can truly pull that

off because that requires like, I

: 1853

01:10:55,388 --> 01:11:00,268

think that very petite bone structure

and kind of really petite facial

: 1854

01:11:00,708 --> 01:11:03,228

features to really not have any hair.

: 1855

01:11:03,248 --> 01:11:06,908

And you know, the way she even the way

it's parted, like she'll run her fingers

: 1856

01:11:06,908 --> 01:11:11,468

through her hair a lot and it is like

the truly, the way it's parted is like

: 1857

01:11:11,468 --> 01:11:16,748

that of a child's or like a, a young

boys, but somehow it works for her.

: 1858

01:11:17,508 --> 01:11:24,068

I think she is Carl refers to her as

fantastically gorgeous during the,

: 1859

01:11:24,423 --> 01:11:24,933

Katie: Mm hmm.

: 1860

01:11:25,128 --> 01:11:27,508

Lizzy: the scene, the coffee

scene who takes the shirt

: 1861

01:11:27,508 --> 01:11:28,468

off and he is getting on her.

: 1862

01:11:28,468 --> 01:11:29,827

He is you're fantastically gorgeous.

: 1863

01:11:29,968 --> 01:11:33,788

And I would agree, she is

fantastically gorgeous, but I

: 1864

01:11:33,788 --> 01:11:36,838

would've loved like, even I don't

know, like a crop top or something.

: 1865

01:11:36,838 --> 01:11:39,518

just like something a little bit

like more on the feminine side.

: 1866

01:11:39,538 --> 01:11:40,438

You know, you don't need to.

: 1867

01:11:41,238 --> 01:11:44,958

Necessarily dressed like O Ma Brown,

but something where it's like the

: 1868

01:11:44,958 --> 01:11:50,077

femininity is coming in to kind of

juxtapose your very masculine haircut.

: 1869

01:11:50,513 --> 01:11:51,013

Katie: Yeah.

: 1870

01:11:51,283 --> 01:11:51,573

Chad: Yeah.

: 1871

01:11:51,573 --> 01:11:52,023

Katie: Yeah.

: 1872

01:11:52,233 --> 01:11:55,093

Chad: she goes on to do strip

tees like straight after this.

: 1873

01:11:55,233 --> 01:11:55,452

So

: 1874

01:11:55,553 --> 01:11:55,833

Katie: was

: 1875

01:11:55,843 --> 01:11:56,333

Chad: there's,

: 1876

01:11:56,813 --> 01:11:56,993

Katie: I

: 1877

01:11:57,003 --> 01:11:59,253

Chad: there's somewhere somewhere in

: 1878

01:11:59,253 --> 01:12:02,333

between strip tees and ghosts, like land

: 1879

01:12:02,468 --> 01:12:03,088

Lizzy: That's right.

: 1880

01:12:03,173 --> 01:12:04,733

Chad: can show little skin.

: 1881

01:12:05,043 --> 01:12:08,893

I'll never argue for putting

deme more and more attractive

: 1882

01:12:09,213 --> 01:12:11,452

clothing, but I think it was just,

: 1883

01:12:11,873 --> 01:12:13,333

here's an eccentric artist,

: 1884

01:12:13,452 --> 01:12:13,873

Katie: Yeah.

: 1885

01:12:14,013 --> 01:12:15,133

Chad: this is what eccentric

: 1886

01:12:15,338 --> 01:12:15,758

Lizzy: Mm-hmm.

: 1887

01:12:16,698 --> 01:12:17,118

. Mm-hmm.

: 1888

01:12:17,403 --> 01:12:18,293

Chad: concerned with

: 1889

01:12:18,303 --> 01:12:18,863

Katie: agree.

: 1890

01:12:19,723 --> 01:12:23,253

Chad: form fitting or curve

showing off their curves.

: 1891

01:12:23,253 --> 01:12:26,013

It's just, here's and a loose shirt.

: 1892

01:12:26,073 --> 01:12:26,433

Katie: Yeah.

: 1893

01:12:26,593 --> 01:12:26,863

Yeah.

: 1894

01:12:26,903 --> 01:12:27,723

I, I agree.

: 1895

01:12:27,843 --> 01:12:31,233

That's, it works for her character,

but I was like, oh, she's got

: 1896

01:12:31,233 --> 01:12:32,733

a cute little figure and, and

: 1897

01:12:32,743 --> 01:12:36,183

she's a beautiful woman and she wears

really frumpy clothes, but okay.

: 1898

01:12:36,208 --> 01:12:36,558

Chad: Right.

: 1899

01:12:37,103 --> 01:12:41,193

Katie: again, because I hadn't seen

this in so long, the scene where, it's

: 1900

01:12:41,193 --> 01:12:46,023

like right after the penny levitating

scene, that that kind of convinces

: 1901

01:12:46,023 --> 01:12:50,263

Molly to let Otome and, Sam in.

: 1902

01:12:50,913 --> 01:12:53,423

And then Otome, it's really sweet gesture.

: 1903

01:12:53,433 --> 01:12:58,583

Sam says he would give anything

to be able to touch Molly again.

: 1904

01:12:58,583 --> 01:13:05,053

And so she lets him Like, take over

her body and it's, it's really sweet

: 1905

01:13:05,053 --> 01:13:08,193

at first, you know, they like hold

hands, he touches her face, they

: 1906

01:13:08,193 --> 01:13:11,873

embrace they kind of sway dance.

: 1907

01:13:12,202 --> 01:13:15,773

But I was like, Oh my God, are

they going to kiss and have sex?

: 1908

01:13:15,773 --> 01:13:17,753

Cause that would be so weird.

: 1909

01:13:18,583 --> 01:13:21,683

And thank God they didn't, but

they were, they talked about it.

: 1910

01:13:22,733 --> 01:13:25,563

They were considering doing

that apparently the movie

: 1911

01:13:25,563 --> 01:13:26,363

makers and they're like

: 1912

01:13:26,363 --> 01:13:29,783

no that'd be weird because

it's it's Odomay Brown's body

: 1913

01:13:29,908 --> 01:13:30,128

Lizzy: Yes.

: 1914

01:13:30,327 --> 01:13:32,888

I mean, well, how would like

the equipment even work?

: 1915

01:13:33,077 --> 01:13:33,738

you know what I mean?

: 1916

01:13:33,738 --> 01:13:34,338

That's that.

: 1917

01:13:35,018 --> 01:13:38,618

I think there's a world, Erin and I,

my husband and I were talking about

: 1918

01:13:38,618 --> 01:13:43,818

this of how like the, just, even the

dance scene, if there was like even

: 1919

01:13:44,118 --> 01:13:49,628

one moment where they just shot, had

a realistic scene of Whoopi Goldberg

: 1920

01:13:49,628 --> 01:13:52,228

and Demi slow dancing together,

: 1921

01:13:53,033 --> 01:13:56,523

Katie: wondered too, but it would

have taken us out of the sweetness

: 1922

01:13:56,523 --> 01:13:56,973

of it.

: 1923

01:13:57,003 --> 01:13:57,153

I

: 1924

01:13:57,558 --> 01:13:59,438

Lizzy: Would've been a great ss n l skit.

: 1925

01:13:59,438 --> 01:14:01,738

Like truly if she would've been so great.

: 1926

01:14:01,878 --> 01:14:06,878

But I think, I mean it is such a

sweet scene and I, I feel so sorry

: 1927

01:14:07,868 --> 01:14:09,608

for both of them when I watch it.

: 1928

01:14:09,608 --> 01:14:13,208

Because kind of going back to the

point I made earlier about like how

: 1929

01:14:13,868 --> 01:14:18,608

the kind of like actualization of the,

depth of their love, I think it's.

: 1930

01:14:19,593 --> 01:14:22,723

It's gotta hurt so bad, like this

sting of you're, you're there.

: 1931

01:14:22,793 --> 01:14:24,003

Like you are physically there.

: 1932

01:14:24,003 --> 01:14:26,163

You're watching them,

you're listening to them.

: 1933

01:14:26,623 --> 01:14:31,523

You're kind of taking them in, but you

cannot touch them and they cannot see you.

: 1934

01:14:31,623 --> 01:14:33,202

And that just has to be so painful.

: 1935

01:14:33,702 --> 01:14:37,083

And I think I, I couldn't even imagine.

: 1936

01:14:37,243 --> 01:14:39,483

I mean, thinking about it too

much could get you emotional.

: 1937

01:14:39,583 --> 01:14:43,843

So I think I totally appreciate the payoff

that they were going for for that scene.

: 1938

01:14:44,803 --> 01:14:45,253

Katie: Mm hmm.

: 1939

01:14:45,263 --> 01:14:45,283

Yeah,

: 1940

01:14:46,077 --> 01:14:47,858

Chad: we, get the

foreshadowing with Orlando

: 1941

01:14:48,118 --> 01:14:52,898

Pro possessing oda, and, then he

says, it really takes it out of me.

: 1942

01:14:53,158 --> 01:14:57,778

So my immediate thought, and same with

my wife, says, can't you wait 30 minutes

: 1943

01:14:58,158 --> 01:14:59,938

for the guy that's coming to kill you?

: 1944

01:15:00,198 --> 01:15:01,077

save your strength.

: 1945

01:15:01,538 --> 01:15:04,518

You, you observe this, save your

strength and fight this guy off.

: 1946

01:15:04,778 --> 01:15:06,077

And then you can have your dance.

: 1947

01:15:06,318 --> 01:15:09,278

I guess you couldn't, like

if the guy goes away, you go

: 1948

01:15:09,683 --> 01:15:09,702

Katie: Yeah

: 1949

01:15:10,248 --> 01:15:13,208

Chad: You're escorted

to heaven, I don't know.

: 1950

01:15:13,228 --> 01:15:14,768

You take your chances, I suppose,

: 1951

01:15:14,838 --> 01:15:15,327

Katie: Yeah,

: 1952

01:15:15,588 --> 01:15:16,008

Chad: you're

: 1953

01:15:16,108 --> 01:15:18,268

Katie: work that he's like,

what's happening to me?

: 1954

01:15:18,268 --> 01:15:21,988

Like he's too weak to, but he's

also like losing his ghostness.

: 1955

01:15:22,278 --> 01:15:23,188

It was interesting, but

: 1956

01:15:23,188 --> 01:15:24,748

I thought the same thing, Chad.

: 1957

01:15:25,551 --> 01:15:26,521

Chad: Just, just wait.

: 1958

01:15:26,676 --> 01:15:28,086

Lizzy: Yeah, give a sec.

: 1959

01:15:28,951 --> 01:15:32,051

Katie: I didn't realize this,

but AFI has all their lists

: 1960

01:15:32,051 --> 01:15:34,531

of things and this was in the

: 1961

01:15:34,531 --> 01:15:36,281

top 100 greatest love story

: 1962

01:15:36,281 --> 01:15:36,881

movies.

: 1963

01:15:38,006 --> 01:15:38,546

Lizzy: Oh, nice.

: 1964

01:15:39,161 --> 01:15:39,721

Katie: And.

: 1965

01:15:40,241 --> 01:15:40,401

Chad: It,

: 1966

01:15:40,591 --> 01:15:43,781

Katie: and Unchained Melody,

which is, I mean, this

: 1967

01:15:43,781 --> 01:15:47,341

movie researched that I believe,

: 1968

01:15:47,411 --> 01:15:48,731

and it is amazing.

: 1969

01:15:49,001 --> 01:15:53,361

It's also in the AFI's Top

100 Music in the Movies.

: 1970

01:15:54,455 --> 01:15:56,795

Chad: We have a love-hate with a f I, but

: 1971

01:15:57,005 --> 01:15:57,205

Katie: yeah,

: 1972

01:15:57,355 --> 01:15:57,475

Chad: I,

: 1973

01:15:57,525 --> 01:15:58,055

Katie: yeah,

: 1974

01:15:58,115 --> 01:15:58,635

Chad: with them here.

: 1975

01:15:59,115 --> 01:15:59,235

I.

: 1976

01:15:59,285 --> 01:16:01,015

Katie: and it was the most

: 1977

01:16:01,015 --> 01:16:02,425

rented video cassette.

: 1978

01:16:02,434 --> 01:16:04,175

Remember VHS, anyone?

: 1979

01:16:04,420 --> 01:16:05,160

Lizzy: Oh my goodness.

: 1980

01:16:05,300 --> 01:16:05,720

Of course.

: 1981

01:16:06,990 --> 01:16:08,160

Katie: In: 1991

: 1982

01:16:08,160 --> 01:16:09,930

most rented, uh, videocassette.

: 1983

01:16:11,100 --> 01:16:11,559

Lizzy: Oh, nice.

: 1984

01:16:11,710 --> 01:16:13,350

Katie: Everybody on their date nights.

: 1985

01:16:14,260 --> 01:16:14,809

Chad?

: 1986

01:16:14,920 --> 01:16:20,500

Chad: Oh, oh, I, I remember this

playing on t b s, it was the clay

: 1987

01:16:20,510 --> 01:16:22,500

scene with that song on chain.

: 1988

01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:25,700

Melody as the preview for ghosts.

: 1989

01:16:25,700 --> 01:16:29,820

Like I remember the introduction to TV

and it would just play over and over.

: 1990

01:16:29,820 --> 01:16:32,740

That's a huge part of my childhood

is remembering that commercial

: 1991

01:16:33,030 --> 01:16:33,250

Lizzy: Yes.

: 1992

01:16:33,820 --> 01:16:33,940

Chad: I,

: 1993

01:16:34,070 --> 01:16:35,830

Katie: I don't think they

really had to sell a whole lot.

: 1994

01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:36,280

That

: 1995

01:16:36,290 --> 01:16:36,980

scene in

: 1996

01:16:36,980 --> 01:16:39,240

a preview and then two gorgeous people?

: 1997

01:16:39,250 --> 01:16:39,670

Lizzy: Mm-hmm.

: 1998

01:16:39,930 --> 01:16:40,150

Chad: yes.

: 1999

01:16:40,150 --> 01:16:40,590

Katie: Yeah.

: 2000

01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:40,940

Lizzy: Yep.

: 2001

01:16:42,100 --> 01:16:46,680

Katie: apparently Patrick Swayze really

pushed for Whoopi Goldberg to be in

: 2002

01:16:46,680 --> 01:16:51,340

this, because it was originally not not

written with her in mind, but he convinced

: 2003

01:16:51,340 --> 01:16:55,630

the producers that she would be right

for the part some of the other people.

: 2004

01:16:55,945 --> 01:16:56,485

Let's see.

: 2005

01:16:56,555 --> 01:16:58,695

I love all of these, alternative castings.

: 2006

01:16:59,555 --> 01:17:02,755

It was, verbally offered to Jacque, Harry.

: 2007

01:17:03,605 --> 01:17:03,785

guys

: 2008

01:17:03,785 --> 01:17:04,434

know who she is?

: 2009

01:17:04,485 --> 01:17:04,915

she was in

: 2010

01:17:04,915 --> 01:17:05,605

227.

: 2011

01:17:06,475 --> 01:17:07,195

you know her,

: 2012

01:17:07,210 --> 01:17:07,430

Chad: No,

: 2013

01:17:07,595 --> 01:17:07,705

Katie: her.

: 2014

01:17:07,705 --> 01:17:10,695

She also, I think, was in Sister, Sister?

: 2015

01:17:11,535 --> 01:17:12,145

Lizzy: wait, really?

: 2016

01:17:12,885 --> 01:17:13,235

Katie: I think

: 2017

01:17:13,520 --> 01:17:14,930

Chad: like Tia and Tamara

: 2018

01:17:14,975 --> 01:17:15,265

Lizzy: Wait

: 2019

01:17:15,570 --> 01:17:15,930

Chad: sisters.

: 2020

01:17:16,145 --> 01:17:16,355

Katie: I

: 2021

01:17:16,465 --> 01:17:16,825

Lizzy: a second.

: 2022

01:17:17,085 --> 01:17:17,585

The mom?

: 2023

01:17:18,445 --> 01:17:18,665

Yes.

: 2024

01:17:18,934 --> 01:17:19,225

Okay.

: 2025

01:17:19,425 --> 01:17:21,065

I know exactly who

you're talking about now.

: 2026

01:17:21,205 --> 01:17:21,425

Yes.

: 2027

01:17:21,425 --> 01:17:25,925

Katie: it's like, in 227, the

part she played was just, I,

: 2028

01:17:25,925 --> 01:17:28,785

it's amazing, but yeah, Jackay.

: 2029

01:17:29,335 --> 01:17:29,555

Lizzy: Yes.

: 2030

01:17:29,565 --> 01:17:32,105

Katie: so she had verbally accepted

it, but then at the last minute,

: 2031

01:17:32,145 --> 01:17:34,985

Whoopi Goldberg was actually available.

: 2032

01:17:35,895 --> 01:17:37,445

so they're like, okay, we want Whoopi.

: 2033

01:17:38,075 --> 01:17:39,815

other people who auditioned.

: 2034

01:17:40,655 --> 01:17:41,455

Patti LaBelle,

: 2035

01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:43,200

Chad: Hmm.

: 2036

01:17:44,040 --> 01:17:44,480

I like it.

: 2037

01:17:45,280 --> 01:17:45,700

Lizzy: Really?

: 2038

01:17:46,425 --> 01:17:46,865

Katie: Yeah.

: 2039

01:17:46,865 --> 01:17:47,655

Well, cause they did the

: 2040

01:17:47,655 --> 01:17:48,865

color purple together.

: 2041

01:17:49,485 --> 01:17:49,975

Right.

: 2042

01:17:50,450 --> 01:17:51,200

Um,

: 2043

01:17:51,320 --> 01:17:51,480

Chad: did.

: 2044

01:17:51,480 --> 01:17:51,760

Yeah,

: 2045

01:17:52,250 --> 01:17:55,180

Katie: and Tina Turner,

: 2046

01:17:55,936 --> 01:17:56,156

Lizzy: Ooh,

: 2047

01:17:56,286 --> 01:17:58,646

Katie: they actually mentioned

Tina Turner in the movie.

: 2048

01:17:59,323 --> 01:17:59,782

Chad: Oh yeah.

: 2049

01:17:59,853 --> 01:18:00,143

Yeah.

: 2050

01:18:00,282 --> 01:18:02,363

Katie: do you guys have any

guesses for who they had

: 2051

01:18:03,003 --> 01:18:04,813

also in mind for Molly?

: 2052

01:18:06,016 --> 01:18:08,036

Lizzy: was Julia Roberts

in the running at all?

: 2053

01:18:08,146 --> 01:18:10,996

Just being that the timeframe

I would imagine maybe.

: 2054

01:18:11,136 --> 01:18:12,266

Katie: it's basically like.

: 2055

01:18:13,016 --> 01:18:13,866

Everyone.

: 2056

01:18:13,906 --> 01:18:14,226

Yes.

: 2057

01:18:14,696 --> 01:18:15,026

Julia

: 2058

01:18:15,026 --> 01:18:15,506

Roberts Weiss.

: 2059

01:18:15,506 --> 01:18:17,796

So Nicole Kidman auditioned.

: 2060

01:18:17,856 --> 01:18:18,096

They

: 2061

01:18:18,096 --> 01:18:18,396

loved

: 2062

01:18:18,526 --> 01:18:18,946

Chad: Oh, no.

: 2063

01:18:19,026 --> 01:18:22,076

Katie: they wanted, they really

wanted someone more well known.

: 2064

01:18:23,006 --> 01:18:27,996

so they, Days of Thunder, as we talked

about, came out in this month as well.

: 2065

01:18:28,836 --> 01:18:32,126

She took that, so the studio

really liked her, so they cast

: 2066

01:18:32,126 --> 01:18:33,675

her in that instead of this.

: 2067

01:18:34,986 --> 01:18:36,086

That's what happened with Nicole Kidman.

: 2068

01:18:36,086 --> 01:18:39,826

But then others were Julia Roberts, Kim

: 2069

01:18:39,836 --> 01:18:42,886

Basinger, Gina Davis would have been good,

: 2070

01:18:43,026 --> 01:18:43,246

Lizzy: Ooh.

: 2071

01:18:43,366 --> 01:18:43,846

I like her.

: 2072

01:18:44,246 --> 01:18:44,966

I like her a lot.

: 2073

01:18:45,031 --> 01:18:45,321

Chad: Yeah.

: 2074

01:18:45,546 --> 01:18:49,536

Katie: Helen Hunt, Jennifer

Jason Leigh, Andy McDowell,

: 2075

01:18:50,156 --> 01:18:50,976

Lizzy: Oh, I love her.

: 2076

01:18:51,256 --> 01:18:51,816

I love her.

: 2077

01:18:52,386 --> 01:18:53,566

Katie: Madonna,

: 2078

01:18:54,461 --> 01:18:54,681

Chad: No

: 2079

01:18:55,166 --> 01:18:55,425

Katie: I can't,

: 2080

01:18:55,566 --> 01:18:55,786

Lizzy: No,

: 2081

01:18:55,846 --> 01:18:57,126

Katie: Madonna but I don't, I can't see

: 2082

01:18:57,126 --> 01:18:57,956

Lizzy: she's not charming.

: 2083

01:18:58,196 --> 01:18:58,956

I hate saying that.

: 2084

01:18:59,116 --> 01:19:02,356

I mean, I'm not, no offense to anybody

that loves Madonna, but Madonna is,

: 2085

01:19:02,356 --> 01:19:04,956

she's, she's not, she doesn't have like a.

: 2086

01:19:07,086 --> 01:19:10,826

She doesn't have the, the, the X

factor that like Julia Roberts and

: 2087

01:19:10,936 --> 01:19:14,306

Demi Moore have, where it's like this

almost kind of girl next door charm.

: 2088

01:19:14,366 --> 01:19:15,346

She just doesn't have it.

: 2089

01:19:15,536 --> 01:19:17,346

It's, it's too rougher on the edges.

: 2090

01:19:17,346 --> 01:19:18,396

Katie: a different way.

: 2091

01:19:18,956 --> 01:19:19,175

Lizzy: Yes,

: 2092

01:19:20,306 --> 01:19:23,586

Katie: Also Michelle Pfeiffer, Molly

: 2093

01:19:23,586 --> 01:19:24,616

Ringwald.

: 2094

01:19:24,626 --> 01:19:26,346

I feel like she would have maybe

: 2095

01:19:26,346 --> 01:19:27,186

been young.

: 2096

01:19:27,806 --> 01:19:29,046

Lizzy: Tripping on, Of

: 2097

01:19:29,186 --> 01:19:29,496

Katie: To your,

: 2098

01:19:29,666 --> 01:19:30,046

Chad: Of course.

: 2099

01:19:30,236 --> 01:19:30,436

Lizzy: course.

: 2100

01:19:31,306 --> 01:19:32,175

Katie: Mary Steenbergen.

: 2101

01:19:32,175 --> 01:19:32,896

Or Bergen.

: 2102

01:19:34,226 --> 01:19:34,356

Is

: 2103

01:19:34,356 --> 01:19:35,456

it Bergen or Bergen?

: 2104

01:19:36,216 --> 01:19:36,566

Anyway.

: 2105

01:19:37,686 --> 01:19:37,806

Chad: I,

: 2106

01:19:37,806 --> 01:19:38,566

don't know that one.

: 2107

01:19:38,921 --> 01:19:39,661

Katie: Turner

: 2108

01:19:41,116 --> 01:19:41,406

Chad: Okay.

: 2109

01:19:42,081 --> 01:19:42,471

Katie: Deborah

: 2110

01:19:42,496 --> 01:19:42,716

Lizzy: Wow.

: 2111

01:19:43,541 --> 01:19:46,751

Katie: I can see Deborah Winger, maybe.

: 2112

01:19:46,781 --> 01:19:47,371

But yeah, like

: 2113

01:19:47,371 --> 01:19:49,131

basically all females

: 2114

01:19:49,191 --> 01:19:50,991

of a certain age in Hollywood.

: 2115

01:19:52,146 --> 01:19:53,306

Lizzy: I like Andy McDowell.

: 2116

01:19:53,386 --> 01:19:53,946

I love her.

: 2117

01:19:54,086 --> 01:20:00,026

She was just excellent in Groundhog

Day, and I love, I love her so much.

: 2118

01:20:00,486 --> 01:20:02,666

She is, she's fantastic.

: 2119

01:20:02,756 --> 01:20:03,546

She's so charming.

: 2120

01:20:04,346 --> 01:20:04,466

I.

: 2121

01:20:04,581 --> 01:20:07,901

Katie: really like her too and

especially now she's one of the few

: 2122

01:20:07,901 --> 01:20:09,741

that in Hollywood that is attempting

: 2123

01:20:09,741 --> 01:20:12,751

to somewhat age gracefully.

: 2124

01:20:13,171 --> 01:20:13,391

Lizzy: Yes.

: 2125

01:20:13,491 --> 01:20:14,981

Katie: kind of speaks out about

: 2126

01:20:16,231 --> 01:20:16,661

Anyway,

: 2127

01:20:16,761 --> 01:20:21,901

Lizzy: Her performance in Michael,

I think would've been a good

: 2128

01:20:22,131 --> 01:20:24,941

kind of transition for this.

: 2129

01:20:25,300 --> 01:20:27,951

'cause she was, I mean,

she wasn't an artist.

: 2130

01:20:28,131 --> 01:20:32,471

She was kind of like a, the sweet little

Southern bell who loved to sing about pie.

: 2131

01:20:32,491 --> 01:20:37,251

But I think she, but I think that there

was just kind of this, I think her

: 2132

01:20:37,251 --> 01:20:40,931

attraction to Michael in that movie, I

think could have really translated to the

: 2133

01:20:41,001 --> 01:20:43,651

love connection between Sam and Molly.

: 2134

01:20:43,931 --> 01:20:46,891

I think she could have done a good

job, but I do love, I love Demi more.

: 2135

01:20:46,891 --> 01:20:48,171

I think she does a, a great job.

: 2136

01:20:48,781 --> 01:20:49,511

Katie: Yeah, she's good.

: 2137

01:20:49,511 --> 01:20:53,550

I, I am partial to Geena Davis, I

really like her, but she's super tall.

: 2138

01:20:54,341 --> 01:20:55,271

And sometimes that's

: 2139

01:20:56,421 --> 01:20:57,421

with a lot of these

: 2140

01:20:57,421 --> 01:20:58,571

leading men are not

: 2141

01:20:58,811 --> 01:20:59,231

Lizzy: Mm-hmm.

: 2142

01:20:59,401 --> 01:20:59,631

Katie: super

: 2143

01:20:59,956 --> 01:21:00,306

Chad: Right.

: 2144

01:21:01,366 --> 01:21:02,906

Nicole Kidman's the same story.

: 2145

01:21:03,011 --> 01:21:03,021

Katie: hmm.

: 2146

01:21:03,381 --> 01:21:03,601

Lizzy: Yes,

: 2147

01:21:03,826 --> 01:21:03,946

Chad: I,

: 2148

01:21:03,991 --> 01:21:04,291

Katie: point.

: 2149

01:21:04,346 --> 01:21:06,121

Chad: I always Kind of find her

: 2150

01:21:06,461 --> 01:21:06,681

icy.

: 2151

01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:06,931

Katie: Oh,

: 2152

01:21:07,071 --> 01:21:07,881

Chad: Like, I can't,

: 2153

01:21:08,131 --> 01:21:08,571

Lizzy: I agree.

: 2154

01:21:08,761 --> 01:21:09,161

Chad: find that

: 2155

01:21:10,101 --> 01:21:11,311

Lizzy: Same with Michelle Pfeiffer.

: 2156

01:21:11,411 --> 01:21:16,151

She was the another person that I thought

of when I, I see is a good way to put it.

: 2157

01:21:16,251 --> 01:21:19,831

That's same kind of thing as Madonna,

like almost like putting them all in

: 2158

01:21:19,831 --> 01:21:24,141

the same category as they don't have

that, there's not a softness to them.

: 2159

01:21:24,811 --> 01:21:25,101

Yeah.

: 2160

01:21:25,111 --> 01:21:25,631

Katie: Agreed.

: 2161

01:21:25,781 --> 01:21:31,651

Agreed in sort of in the same way,

like basically all the it people, in

: 2162

01:21:31,651 --> 01:21:39,761

Hollywood, all it men at the time up

for the role of Sam offered, but turned

: 2163

01:21:39,771 --> 01:21:42,321

down Kevin Bacon, which

: 2164

01:21:42,501 --> 01:21:42,921

I can

: 2165

01:21:43,071 --> 01:21:43,151

Chad: Hmm.

: 2166

01:21:43,241 --> 01:21:45,201

Katie: see that because

: 2167

01:21:45,581 --> 01:21:46,221

Chad: I would like that.

: 2168

01:21:46,421 --> 01:21:47,371

Katie: Alec Baldwin.

: 2169

01:21:47,421 --> 01:21:47,821

Absolutely

: 2170

01:21:47,821 --> 01:21:48,201

not.

: 2171

01:21:48,581 --> 01:21:48,800

Lizzy: no.

: 2172

01:21:48,901 --> 01:21:49,300

Katie: no.

: 2173

01:21:49,441 --> 01:21:50,411

he's icy.

: 2174

01:21:50,471 --> 01:21:51,241

He's like the

: 2175

01:21:51,311 --> 01:21:51,731

Lizzy: Agreed.

: 2176

01:21:51,831 --> 01:21:53,011

He cannot be in love.

: 2177

01:21:53,121 --> 01:21:54,851

It's not, I don't buy it and I.

: 2178

01:21:54,981 --> 01:21:55,401

Katie: Yeah.

: 2179

01:21:57,071 --> 01:21:57,921

Nicholas Cage.

: 2180

01:21:57,921 --> 01:21:58,731

And I am sorry.

: 2181

01:21:58,731 --> 01:22:00,111

I just do not like him.

: 2182

01:22:00,191 --> 01:22:00,861

at all.

: 2183

01:22:00,881 --> 01:22:01,111

Like

: 2184

01:22:01,206 --> 01:22:01,706

Lizzy: I'm Me too.

: 2185

01:22:01,986 --> 01:22:03,626

I despise him.

: 2186

01:22:03,771 --> 01:22:04,131

Katie: you.

: 2187

01:22:04,161 --> 01:22:04,541

I,

: 2188

01:22:04,651 --> 01:22:05,961

I don't want to, I'm

: 2189

01:22:06,166 --> 01:22:09,266

Lizzy: I'm so relieved to find

somebody else that can't stand him.

: 2190

01:22:09,586 --> 01:22:10,866

I cannot stand him.

: 2191

01:22:11,806 --> 01:22:18,166

I was so excited to see the Renfield

trailer, like there's, this, this guy

: 2192

01:22:18,226 --> 01:22:23,566

who works for a vampire and he's, he's

just so worn down by his boss and the

: 2193

01:22:23,566 --> 01:22:24,846

whole movie looks absolutely amazing.

: 2194

01:22:24,866 --> 01:22:27,646

And then they do this big reveal

of who the vampire is and it's,

: 2195

01:22:27,766 --> 01:22:29,886

Nicholas Cage was in the theater

and I literally went, oh, come on.

: 2196

01:22:31,476 --> 01:22:31,696

Chad: Oh,

: 2197

01:22:32,126 --> 01:22:33,336

he's the best part of that movie.

: 2198

01:22:33,491 --> 01:22:34,531

Katie: Oh, we've got a

: 2199

01:22:34,776 --> 01:22:36,586

Lizzy: He is, he's okay.

: 2200

01:22:36,646 --> 01:22:37,246

Chad: am a huge

: 2201

01:22:37,526 --> 01:22:39,966

Nicholas Cage fan, but

he would ruin this movie

: 2202

01:22:40,391 --> 01:22:40,671

Katie: All right.

: 2203

01:22:40,721 --> 01:22:42,731

Lizzy: they tried putting

him in Family man.

: 2204

01:22:43,941 --> 01:22:44,231

Chad: Yeah.

: 2205

01:22:44,966 --> 01:22:45,706

Lizzy: No, no, no.

: 2206

01:22:45,916 --> 01:22:46,726

Katie: Tom Cruise.

: 2207

01:22:46,726 --> 01:22:47,156

No.

: 2208

01:22:49,175 --> 01:22:49,296

Chad: Hmm.

: 2209

01:22:49,386 --> 01:22:50,156

Katie: Do you guys see Tom

: 2210

01:22:50,246 --> 01:22:50,736

Chad: He's one.

: 2211

01:22:51,816 --> 01:22:52,416

I don't feel

: 2212

01:22:52,416 --> 01:22:55,096

like he has chemistry with

any of his female stars.

: 2213

01:22:55,156 --> 01:22:56,296

That's like the weird thing.

: 2214

01:22:56,386 --> 01:22:56,706

Katie: he,

: 2215

01:22:56,866 --> 01:22:57,216

yeah,

: 2216

01:22:57,266 --> 01:22:58,706

because He's, weird like that.

: 2217

01:22:59,946 --> 01:23:02,656

Johnny Depp, I can totally see Johnny Depp

: 2218

01:23:02,816 --> 01:23:04,936

Lizzy: I could see Johnny,

Deb, I could see him doing it.

: 2219

01:23:05,076 --> 01:23:09,616

He, he always did a great job

when he was working opposite, like

: 2220

01:23:09,616 --> 01:23:11,136

he's, he's able to have chemistry.

: 2221

01:23:11,886 --> 01:23:12,806

Katie: with the ladies.

: 2222

01:23:12,806 --> 01:23:12,886

David

: 2223

01:23:14,266 --> 01:23:14,486

Lizzy: Yes.

: 2224

01:23:15,556 --> 01:23:17,056

Katie: Maybe he, what was

: 2225

01:23:17,116 --> 01:23:17,556

Chad: I like it.

: 2226

01:23:17,675 --> 01:23:19,186

Katie: like maybe he

wasn't a big enough name.

: 2227

01:23:19,206 --> 01:23:19,956

I like him.

: 2228

01:23:19,966 --> 01:23:20,675

I think he probably would

: 2229

01:23:20,726 --> 01:23:21,016

Lizzy: Yeah.

: 2230

01:23:21,166 --> 01:23:21,466

Katie: but.

: 2231

01:23:22,636 --> 01:23:26,116

Also, Harrison Ford, Mel Gibson.

: 2232

01:23:27,101 --> 01:23:34,981

Hanks, Paul Hogan, Kevin Kline, Dennis

Quaid, Mickey Rourke, John Travolta.

: 2233

01:23:35,471 --> 01:23:37,421

I don't think any of them

are good looking enough.

: 2234

01:23:37,421 --> 01:23:39,581

I think this person needs

to be really good looking

: 2235

01:23:40,706 --> 01:23:40,996

Chad: Yeah.

: 2236

01:23:41,451 --> 01:23:45,331

Lizzy: I think Harrison Ford probably

could hit the, hit the mark in, in

: 2237

01:23:45,331 --> 01:23:47,451

the looks and in the acting chops.

: 2238

01:23:47,691 --> 01:23:49,651

I love him so much, but he

: 2239

01:23:49,821 --> 01:23:50,141

Katie: maybe.

: 2240

01:23:50,141 --> 01:23:51,231

Wouldn't he have been a little

: 2241

01:23:52,471 --> 01:23:53,871

Lizzy: might've been a little old.

: 2242

01:23:54,091 --> 01:23:55,151

I'm trying to think of when.

: 2243

01:23:56,175 --> 01:23:57,385

Yeah, he would've been a little old.

: 2244

01:23:57,505 --> 01:24:01,865

'cause when he was in like, you know,

his Indiana Jones and Star Wars days, I

: 2245

01:24:01,865 --> 01:24:04,665

mean, those were in like the seventies

and eighties, so he would've been kind

: 2246

01:24:04,665 --> 01:24:07,625

of probably aging out of this by 90.

: 2247

01:24:08,905 --> 01:24:10,785

I, but I, I do love him though.

: 2248

01:24:10,785 --> 01:24:16,025

And he kind of almost has that same

kind of like stance as Kurt Russell

: 2249

01:24:16,165 --> 01:24:17,745

and Patrick Swayze a little bit.

: 2250

01:24:17,925 --> 01:24:20,065

But it's Swayze.

: 2251

01:24:20,265 --> 01:24:22,505

I mean, that's really, you can't, yeah.

: 2252

01:24:22,770 --> 01:24:24,500

Katie: Also, Demi Moore's

: 2253

01:24:24,510 --> 01:24:27,190

actual husband at the

time, Bruce Willis, was

: 2254

01:24:27,200 --> 01:24:27,880

considered.

: 2255

01:24:28,285 --> 01:24:29,205

Lizzy: I forgot about him.

: 2256

01:24:29,600 --> 01:24:31,890

Katie: he turned it down because he

didn't think the film would work.

: 2257

01:24:31,920 --> 01:24:37,050

I think they all went into this thinking

it was a big gamble, and it did pay off.

: 2258

01:24:37,070 --> 01:24:40,010

But I think a lot of those

famous people were like, What?

: 2259

01:24:40,200 --> 01:24:42,070

This, what is this that you want me to

: 2260

01:24:42,070 --> 01:24:42,500

be in?

: 2261

01:24:42,510 --> 01:24:42,970

You know,

: 2262

01:24:43,883 --> 01:24:44,103

Lizzy: Man,

: 2263

01:24:44,193 --> 01:24:45,952

Chad: it's hard to define genres.

: 2264

01:24:45,952 --> 01:24:49,353

Like it points, it's being a

comedy, it points as being romance.

: 2265

01:24:49,743 --> 01:24:52,032

It's got a little bit

of horror element to it.

: 2266

01:24:52,423 --> 01:24:53,753

It's got a little bit of mystery.

: 2267

01:24:53,843 --> 01:24:54,213

Katie: yeah,

: 2268

01:24:54,383 --> 01:24:56,873

Chad: yeah, I could, I could

imagine reading this and saying,

: 2269

01:24:57,183 --> 01:24:57,473

yeah,

: 2270

01:24:57,473 --> 01:24:58,593

I'll do it for the paycheck,

: 2271

01:24:58,933 --> 01:25:00,313

but it's not going anywhere.

: 2272

01:25:00,952 --> 01:25:02,013

Katie: And then the role of Willie

: 2273

01:25:02,013 --> 01:25:02,813

Lopez, do you guys

: 2274

01:25:02,833 --> 01:25:02,952

Chad: I,

: 2275

01:25:02,973 --> 01:25:04,823

Katie: who Luis Guzman is?

: 2276

01:25:05,603 --> 01:25:05,823

Chad: yes,

: 2277

01:25:05,993 --> 01:25:06,403

Katie: Okay,

: 2278

01:25:06,483 --> 01:25:06,702

Chad: yes,

: 2279

01:25:06,803 --> 01:25:07,523

Lizzy: I don't think I do.

: 2280

01:25:07,643 --> 01:25:09,993

Katie: you you would know

him, Lizzie, I feel like, you

: 2281

01:25:09,993 --> 01:25:10,883

know, I'm, I'm trying to, what

: 2282

01:25:11,133 --> 01:25:13,243

what would he, what

would she know him from,

: 2283

01:25:13,923 --> 01:25:14,273

but.

: 2284

01:25:14,293 --> 01:25:15,543

Chad: have you seen the movie waiting?

: 2285

01:25:16,282 --> 01:25:17,383

Lizzy: Yes, absolutely.

: 2286

01:25:18,083 --> 01:25:18,303

No,

: 2287

01:25:18,673 --> 01:25:19,363

Chad: he's the bat.

: 2288

01:25:19,683 --> 01:25:19,903

Lizzy: no.

: 2289

01:25:20,452 --> 01:25:21,463

Like all grown up.

: 2290

01:25:22,213 --> 01:25:22,823

Stop that.

: 2291

01:25:24,043 --> 01:25:24,663

Oh my gosh.

: 2292

01:25:24,873 --> 01:25:27,463

She's so young and looks so different.

: 2293

01:25:27,853 --> 01:25:28,543

Stop it.

: 2294

01:25:28,888 --> 01:25:30,248

Katie: Well, I haven't seen that movie, so

: 2295

01:25:30,313 --> 01:25:31,173

Lizzy: That's amazing.

: 2296

01:25:31,523 --> 01:25:32,653

That just rocked my world.

: 2297

01:25:33,145 --> 01:25:37,795

Katie: He was up for the role of Willie

Lopez and in a documentary focused

: 2298

01:25:37,795 --> 01:25:43,425

on character actors, he said that

he was stopped by fans of the movie

: 2299

01:25:43,425 --> 01:25:45,095

who think that he's Willie Lopez.

: 2300

01:25:45,205 --> 01:25:47,345

they think he's, um, what's his name?

: 2301

01:25:47,355 --> 01:25:48,175

Rick Avales.

: 2302

01:25:49,360 --> 01:25:49,840

Aviles?

: 2303

01:25:50,115 --> 01:25:50,405

Chad: Okay.

: 2304

01:25:51,340 --> 01:25:52,460

Katie: he's like, no, because

: 2305

01:25:52,460 --> 01:25:53,500

people are like mad at him.

: 2306

01:25:53,500 --> 01:25:54,040

They're like, you're the

: 2307

01:25:54,040 --> 01:25:55,670

guy who killed Patrick Swayze.

: 2308

01:25:55,670 --> 01:25:55,770

And

: 2309

01:25:55,840 --> 01:25:56,059

Lizzy: Oh,

: 2310

01:25:56,070 --> 01:25:57,340

Katie: no, it wasn't me.

: 2311

01:25:57,340 --> 01:25:59,510

Chad: Yeah, Louis Guzman is a lot shorter.

: 2312

01:25:59,965 --> 01:26:00,795

Katie: Oh, yeah.

: 2313

01:26:00,955 --> 01:26:02,145

Then, yeah, that's true.

: 2314

01:26:02,184 --> 01:26:04,255

The guy who played him was fairly tall.

: 2315

01:26:04,255 --> 01:26:04,375

It

: 2316

01:26:04,525 --> 01:26:05,585

appeared anyway.

: 2317

01:26:06,590 --> 01:26:10,370

Chad: I like the stories that, Tony

Goldwin tells about wait, staff hating

: 2318

01:26:10,370 --> 01:26:13,809

him, and they couldn't figure out why

until they ask if he was an actor.

: 2319

01:26:14,190 --> 01:26:14,890

And he said, yeah.

: 2320

01:26:14,890 --> 01:26:16,610

And they were like, that's why I hate You

: 2321

01:26:17,710 --> 01:26:19,010

Lizzy: Job I could see that.

: 2322

01:26:20,090 --> 01:26:21,490

I love, I really love him though.

: 2323

01:26:21,550 --> 01:26:27,930

He was the voice of Tarzan in the Disney

movie and I, yes, I love his voice.

: 2324

01:26:27,990 --> 01:26:33,890

He has a buttery, and he was also

Casanova the voice of, I think the ca,

: 2325

01:26:33,910 --> 01:26:36,650

the Voice of Cassanova in Kiss the Girls.

: 2326

01:26:37,470 --> 01:26:41,970

He has a really buttery

voice that I enjoy so much.

: 2327

01:26:42,190 --> 01:26:46,970

So even though he is evil and

slimy in this movie, I still

: 2328

01:26:47,040 --> 01:26:48,730

like, he's very likable to me.

: 2329

01:26:49,010 --> 01:26:53,540

I, I could like, he should be

doing a S M R, like, he has

: 2330

01:26:53,540 --> 01:26:54,960

just an unbelievable voice.

: 2331

01:26:55,480 --> 01:26:56,840

I love it so, so much.

: 2332

01:26:57,780 --> 01:26:58,480

You might, yeah.

: 2333

01:26:58,480 --> 01:26:59,000

You never know.

: 2334

01:26:59,410 --> 01:27:00,100

Katie: dislike him.

: 2335

01:27:00,100 --> 01:27:02,360

I do like him as an actor as well.

: 2336

01:27:03,600 --> 01:27:09,140

so the screenwriter, the ditto thing

is the big part of like, it's kind

: 2337

01:27:09,140 --> 01:27:12,820

of what it's, it's known for the

pottery scene and ditto, I feel like.

: 2338

01:27:13,880 --> 01:27:18,880

And the writer, the screenwriter,

Ruben, Bruce Joel Rubin, apparently

: 2339

01:27:18,880 --> 01:27:20,860

where that came from is that he used to

: 2340

01:27:20,860 --> 01:27:23,510

say ditto to his high school girlfriend

: 2341

01:27:24,255 --> 01:27:24,475

Lizzy: Aw.

: 2342

01:27:24,530 --> 01:27:25,270

Katie: I love you.

: 2343

01:27:25,740 --> 01:27:26,440

So I thought that was a

: 2344

01:27:26,440 --> 01:27:29,720

cute little tidbit from his real

life that he put in the movie.

: 2345

01:27:29,975 --> 01:27:30,625

Lizzy: That is cute.

: 2346

01:27:30,825 --> 01:27:31,305

I like that.

: 2347

01:27:32,115 --> 01:27:34,285

Chad: Yeah, but note

that it wasn't his wife,

: 2348

01:27:34,925 --> 01:27:35,465

Lizzy: That's right.

: 2349

01:27:35,765 --> 01:27:36,345

That's right.

: 2350

01:27:36,455 --> 01:27:36,745

Yeah.

: 2351

01:27:37,320 --> 01:27:38,360

Katie: it was high school.

: 2352

01:27:38,360 --> 01:27:39,180

I don't know.

: 2353

01:27:39,695 --> 01:27:41,684

Lizzy: Ditto is kind of like

the equivalent of like when

: 2354

01:27:41,684 --> 01:27:43,085

someone say, love you, you too,

: 2355

01:27:43,790 --> 01:27:44,290

Katie: Yeah.

: 2356

01:27:44,385 --> 01:27:45,295

Chad: right, right.

: 2357

01:27:46,075 --> 01:27:46,805

Lizzy: kind of gets you.

: 2358

01:27:46,815 --> 01:27:47,895

Chad: man up and say, I love you.

: 2359

01:27:48,065 --> 01:27:48,355

Lizzy: Yeah,

: 2360

01:27:49,070 --> 01:27:50,740

Katie: Like nowadays it would be same.

: 2361

01:27:51,625 --> 01:27:51,915

Lizzy: same.

: 2362

01:27:52,065 --> 01:27:52,595

yeah, yeah.

: 2363

01:27:52,595 --> 01:27:52,795

yeah.

: 2364

01:27:53,650 --> 01:27:54,910

Chad: You're not Harrison Ford.

: 2365

01:27:54,930 --> 01:27:56,190

You cannot say, I know

: 2366

01:27:56,235 --> 01:27:56,855

Lizzy: Oh my gosh.

: 2367

01:27:57,035 --> 01:27:57,255

Ugh.

: 2368

01:27:57,405 --> 01:27:59,815

I'll never forget how mad I

was the first time I saw that

: 2369

01:28:00,871 --> 01:28:05,061

Katie: also, Ruben wanted Patrick

to play Sam Wheat after he saw

: 2370

01:28:05,091 --> 01:28:07,261

an interview that Swayze gave.

: 2371

01:28:07,871 --> 01:28:10,021

I'm in love with Swayze, like, so hard.

: 2372

01:28:10,071 --> 01:28:13,961

Okay, so he did this interview and I also

read his book where he talks a lot about

: 2373

01:28:14,091 --> 01:28:16,251

his dad dying had a big effect on him.

: 2374

01:28:16,251 --> 01:28:17,931

So he was talking about

this in an interview.

: 2375

01:28:19,531 --> 01:28:22,941

And he became really emotional

and started to weep, Patrick

: 2376

01:28:22,941 --> 01:28:25,581

Swayze in this, in this interview.

: 2377

01:28:25,851 --> 01:28:28,821

So Ruben saw the interview and

he was like, well, if a macho guy

: 2378

01:28:28,831 --> 01:28:31,061

like Swayze can cry over a loved

: 2379

01:28:31,061 --> 01:28:33,611

one, he's the perfect

person for this movie.

: 2380

01:28:34,396 --> 01:28:35,076

Lizzy: I love that.

: 2381

01:28:35,091 --> 01:28:35,761

Katie: got cast.

: 2382

01:28:36,670 --> 01:28:37,840

Chad: Yeah, I'm glad he did.

: 2383

01:28:38,200 --> 01:28:43,800

I mean, he does, he's obviously cast

for his looks, but he does bring this

: 2384

01:28:43,800 --> 01:28:45,880

kind of vulnerable sensitivity with him.

: 2385

01:28:46,270 --> 01:28:48,680

It's really hard to do for

some of those other names.

: 2386

01:28:49,070 --> 01:28:50,800

It's hard to be, I.

: 2387

01:28:50,800 --> 01:28:52,670

Attractive and not cocky about

: 2388

01:28:52,670 --> 01:28:52,790

it.

: 2389

01:28:52,850 --> 01:28:55,150

He doesn't come off as cocky and knows it.

: 2390

01:28:55,684 --> 01:28:56,125

Lizzy: I agree.

: 2391

01:28:56,155 --> 01:28:56,725

Well said

: 2392

01:28:57,385 --> 01:29:01,865

Katie: extremely, Yeah, He's a

very humble dude he has all of

: 2393

01:29:01,865 --> 01:29:03,615

the talent to not be, but he,

: 2394

01:29:03,675 --> 01:29:05,585

he is, he's like a good human.

: 2395

01:29:06,645 --> 01:29:06,845

As

: 2396

01:29:06,934 --> 01:29:07,155

Lizzy: yes.

: 2397

01:29:08,305 --> 01:29:09,005

Katie: Swayze was

: 2398

01:29:09,005 --> 01:29:09,325

actually

: 2399

01:29:09,330 --> 01:29:09,450

Chad: I,

: 2400

01:29:09,555 --> 01:29:12,655

Katie: interestingly enough, I'm, I'm

referencing the thing episode a lot

: 2401

01:29:12,655 --> 01:29:18,585

because my guest had brought up that

he had heard Swayze being used as a

: 2402

01:29:18,585 --> 01:29:25,245

slang term, but in that episode, it,

what it meant was like, just uber

: 2403

01:29:25,245 --> 01:29:27,155

cool, just like, Oh, you're so Swayze.

: 2404

01:29:27,934 --> 01:29:33,795

But I was reading about in New York

city in the nineties, Swayze was used

: 2405

01:29:33,795 --> 01:29:39,715

as a slang term for, like disappear,

leaving, disappearing, like ghosting.

: 2406

01:29:40,030 --> 01:29:40,250

Chad: oh,

: 2407

01:29:40,900 --> 01:29:42,120

Lizzy: Oh, I didn't even think about that.

: 2408

01:29:42,120 --> 01:29:42,880

That's hilarious.

: 2409

01:29:43,110 --> 01:29:43,400

Yeah.

: 2410

01:29:43,420 --> 01:29:44,920

I'm gonna Swayze , I'm just,

: 2411

01:29:44,985 --> 01:29:46,295

Katie: gonna, I'm gonna Swayze.

: 2412

01:29:46,615 --> 01:29:47,325

Notorious B.

: 2413

01:29:47,325 --> 01:29:47,415

I.

: 2414

01:29:47,415 --> 01:29:47,655

G.

: 2415

01:29:47,655 --> 01:29:49,865

was one artist who was

especially fond of using it.

: 2416

01:29:50,325 --> 01:29:53,555

And, oh, Swayze was in

the video, in Ja Rule's

: 2417

01:29:53,565 --> 01:29:54,075

video.

: 2418

01:29:54,315 --> 01:29:55,065

Murder Reigns.

: 2419

01:29:55,821 --> 01:29:56,141

Yeah.

: 2420

01:29:56,161 --> 01:29:56,641

Chad: didn't know that.

: 2421

01:29:56,761 --> 01:29:57,101

Katie: either.

: 2422

01:29:57,631 --> 01:29:58,738

Ah, Ghost.

: 2423

01:29:59,963 --> 01:30:00,723

Lizzy: I love it so much.

: 2424

01:30:01,768 --> 01:30:09,138

Katie: So Ghost mashup of romance Mystery,

paranormal, and even great comedy.

: 2425

01:30:09,488 --> 01:30:13,481

And it's a fun time of year to be

revisiting this particular Swayze movie

: 2426

01:30:13,521 --> 01:30:16,131

nd the start of a new decade,: 1990

: 2427

01:30:16,631 --> 01:30:21,271

But we must now return to the present day

reality until the next Retro Made episode.

: 2428

01:30:21,461 --> 01:30:25,981

Chat, Lizzie, it was such a pleasure

having you guys join me for this

: 2429

01:30:25,981 --> 01:30:27,861

particular trip down memory lane.

: 2430

01:30:28,161 --> 01:30:29,971

Do you have any closing

thoughts on the movie?

: 2431

01:30:29,991 --> 01:30:30,721

And then also,

: 2432

01:30:30,721 --> 01:30:32,701

please be sure to tell

us where we can find you.

: 2433

01:30:33,361 --> 01:30:33,581

Lizzy: Yes.

: 2434

01:30:33,771 --> 01:30:34,661

Well, thank you so much.

: 2435

01:30:34,691 --> 01:30:35,621

This was so much fun.

: 2436

01:30:35,681 --> 01:30:37,221

And I'm in the same boat that you are.

: 2437

01:30:37,300 --> 01:30:41,941

I mean, a lot of, put the podcasters that

we meet, the, the hosts, the other amazing

: 2438

01:30:41,941 --> 01:30:46,061

co-hosts of Retro Movie Roundtable, and

then the majority of our guests are men.

: 2439

01:30:46,061 --> 01:30:50,701

So it's so nice to banter back and forth

with a fellow, with a fellow woman.

: 2440

01:30:50,881 --> 01:30:53,661

So this was so fun,

especially a big Swayze fan.

: 2441

01:30:54,331 --> 01:30:56,821

This movie's just a classic,

honestly, it never gets old.

: 2442

01:30:57,101 --> 01:31:00,541

I think that this will . Go down in time.

: 2443

01:31:00,771 --> 01:31:06,261

It's just one of those disruptors

that really earned its right to stand

: 2444

01:31:06,261 --> 01:31:08,381

still, and I, I just, I love it.

: 2445

01:31:08,501 --> 01:31:13,781

I had just as much fun rewatching it as I

did the first time, and I'm just excited

: 2446

01:31:13,781 --> 01:31:15,061

that we got the chance to talk about it.

: 2447

01:31:15,886 --> 01:31:17,136

Chad: Yeah, I'm, I'm

: 2448

01:31:17,446 --> 01:31:20,616

very grateful to be

invited to the girls club

: 2449

01:31:20,681 --> 01:31:20,901

Lizzy: Yes,

: 2450

01:31:21,376 --> 01:31:23,856

Chad: I, I, I, I like

hearing that perspective.

: 2451

01:31:24,216 --> 01:31:29,671

Honestly, having on our show

been, So fantastic because oth

: 2452

01:31:29,671 --> 01:31:33,791

otherwise, we were doing how to lose

a guy in 10 days with three guys.

: 2453

01:31:34,411 --> 01:31:38,431

And I, was the one defending

it, but it felt miserable.

: 2454

01:31:38,811 --> 01:31:41,921

Katie, we've loved having you as a

guest, bringing that perspective.

: 2455

01:31:41,981 --> 01:31:45,441

We love having the female perspective

'cause things get brought up

: 2456

01:31:45,471 --> 01:31:47,401

that just don't occur to us.

: 2457

01:31:48,201 --> 01:31:48,441

movie.

: 2458

01:31:48,781 --> 01:31:49,261

I love it.

: 2459

01:31:49,731 --> 01:31:52,701

It's an, like I said, it was

the first romance movie that I

: 2460

01:31:52,701 --> 01:31:57,461

think I can remember watching and

getting to show it to my wife.

: 2461

01:31:57,851 --> 01:31:58,581

That was special.

: 2462

01:31:58,681 --> 01:31:59,821

It was a nice date night.

: 2463

01:32:00,321 --> 01:32:04,861

So it's, it's always fun when I get

to bring a romance movie to my wife

: 2464

01:32:05,300 --> 01:32:05,941

cause she's seen

: 2465

01:32:07,521 --> 01:32:11,261

And to get, watch her

with that iconic scene.

: 2466

01:32:11,550 --> 01:32:13,621

She's not taking up pottery anytime soon.

: 2467

01:32:13,800 --> 01:32:14,221

She is.

: 2468

01:32:14,681 --> 01:32:16,141

She is a This is messy.

: 2469

01:32:16,576 --> 01:32:17,416

I don't feel clean.

: 2470

01:32:18,901 --> 01:32:23,121

But yeah, I, I love talking movies

and it's fun getting this perspective

: 2471

01:32:23,461 --> 01:32:25,841

as opposed to when we

do something like crank

: 2472

01:32:25,981 --> 01:32:26,141

Katie: Mm

: 2473

01:32:26,151 --> 01:32:26,541

hmm.

: 2474

01:32:26,771 --> 01:32:26,991

Lizzy: Yes.

: 2475

01:32:28,991 --> 01:32:29,651

Katie: Very different.

: 2476

01:32:30,681 --> 01:32:30,901

Chad: Yes.

: 2477

01:32:31,391 --> 01:32:32,191

Katie: Awesome.

: 2478

01:32:32,741 --> 01:32:36,211

And thank you all for listening

or watching on YouTube.

: 2479

01:32:36,701 --> 01:32:40,491

If you're loving RetroMade, show some

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