D’Arcy Webb is a speech and voice coach committed to helping people be heard.

She began her journey when a director she admired told her that her performance was wonderful…. If only she could have been heard.

D’Arcy worked for years on her own vocal strength and power, and what she learned became her passion.

D’Arcy knows that unleashing your voice is critical to finding your truth.

Join us as we discuss:

Why it matters that you have a clear, strong voice that you own as yours

Why people are always crying in D’Arcy’s studio

Why D’Arcy loves the phonetic alphabet, and how it helps us find our true voice.

About the D’Arcy:

For over two decades, award-winning voice and speech teacher and performance consultant D’Arcy Webb has been helping actors, performers, corporate executives, authors and speakers use their voices to connect with audiences around the world with power, eloquence and heart.

As former Associate Professor of Voice and Speech at the University of the Arts, D’Arcy has worked with hundreds of new and seasoned performers to make their words resonate with clarity, precision and confidence. She has also served as voice, speech and performance coach for TEDxCambridge, and was the Head of Vocal Training for Heroic Public Speaking from 2016 to 2020. Now D’Arcy coaches and teaches in her private studio all those who want to speak with not only clarity but brio. The creator of a wacky online series called “Tuesday Morning Two-minute Tune-ups For Your Tongue,” D'Arcy is in constant pursuit of ideas that will enrich, renew and deepen her students’ knowledge and skill, awakening in them a love of language and the passion to speak their truth. Keynote speaker and retired TEDx Cambridge Executive Producer, Tamsen Webster, has called D’Arcy’s work “magic. She produces instantaneous yet lasting effects.”

Connect with the D’Arcy:

darcywebb.com https://www.darcywebb.com/

LinkedIn and Facebook: @thespeechdiva

Instagram-: @darcythespeechdiva

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Dr. Amanda Crowell is a cognitive psychologist, speaker, author and coach changing our perspective on the world of work. It IS possible to do Great Work-- launch a successful business, make a scientific discovery, raise a tight-knit family, or manage a global remote team-- without sacrificing your health, happiness and relationships.

Amanda is the Author of the forthcoming book, Great Work: Do What Matter Most Without Sacrificing Everything Else, and the creator of the Great Work Journals. Amanda's TEDx talk has received more than a million views and has been featured on TED's Ideas blog and Ted Shorts.

Her ideas have also been featured on NPR, Al Jazeera, The Wall Street Journal, Quartz, and Thrive Global.

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Welcome to unleashing your great work, a

podcast about doing the work that matters the most to you.

I'm your host, Dr. Amanda Kroll, a cognitive psychologist,

speaker, coach, and the creator of the aligned time journals.

Every week on this podcast, we are asking the big questions.

What is great work? And why does it matter so much to us? What

does it take to do more of your great work without sacrificing

everything else? And how does the world change when more

people are doing more of the work that matters the most to

them? Whether you're great work is building your own small

business, or managing a remote team at a multinational company.

You'll find insight and answers here. Welcome, everybody to

unleashing your great work. Today, I could not be more

excited to welcome Darcy Webb to the podcast. She is an award

winning voice and speech teacher and performance consultant. And

she's been helping actors and performers, corporate

executives, authors and speakers to use their voice to connect

with audiences around the world with power, eloquence, and

heart. Welcome to the podcast Darcy.

Oh, thank you. I am so glad you asked me to do this.

Amanda, I'm really happy to talk.

Yay. I'm glad you agreed to do this. So we are

we're in good company. So Darcy, we start every podcast with the

same question. Tell us a little bit about your great work. Well,

it's so funny when you say that to me, because I never think of

my work as great work until I listened to the first episode of

your podcast, and then I kind of shifted my thinking a little

bit. Really? Yes, I thought my work was my work. It was what

brought me joy. Hmm, brought me great joy, to be able to teach.

And I just never thought it was great until I had my little mind

shift. Well, Darcy and I met at a program a public speaking

program. And she was my voice coach. While we were there, I

did even an individual session with her. I was so impressed

with her help she and for my TED Talk, actually, as I was

preparing to do that she helped me get my vocal presence in

place. And so I know for sure that the work that you do is

great work, in part because I know that it made my work so

much greater. But tell us what that great work is now that we

both is great.

I teach people to own who they are through their

voice. I teach people to tell their truth, their whole truth.

They're with their authentic sound. So that's really what I

work on with people. Almost all the time. When I first started

teaching, I was teaching college sophomores acting majors in

musical theater majors. And I was teaching them using the

International Phonetic Alphabet, which is well it's it's a, it's

a series of symbols. Sometimes they look like letters.

Sometimes they just look like squiggles. But they're like the

music notes to speech. So there's a sound attached to

every symbol. So there's a symbol for ah, and there's a

symbol for and there's a symbol for and all of the other sounds

that we make. And so what they had to learn to do was

eventually once they learned them, those music Gnosis speech,

they had to learn to put them together, they had to learn how

to transcribe what it was they were saying, whether it was a

monologue or a practice sentence. And so it seemed like

it was kind of mechanical, and it seemed like it was a pretty

academic. But in the end, it was always about discovering that

they had this true voice inside them. And it was just from being

able to make music with their vowels in their consonant

sounds.

What is it about gaining full access to

your voice that seems to transform people?

I think it's that for so many people, they have

tamped down their voices because they thought that they sounded

bad. Or they you know, if you grew up like I did, you weren't

allowed to talk. You know, get out of the way you're standing

in front of the TV. melodramatic. I don't want to

hear from you. Why are you crying?

That was like pulling back of my child,

I'm sure they did the best they could do. We all

do. Yeah. But it really took a few years of therapy, and voice

and speech work, not only learning it, but teaching it,

you know, when we have to learn so often. So I really discovered

my true voice by teaching that when when I started working on

my vowels and consonants with my students, I would began to take

the cork out of my vocal passageway and started

expressing my true sound, that I wasn't trying to sound like

somebody else. And when I wasn't trying to sound like somebody

else, then I could truly be who I was. Then I had more

confidence in front of my students. And then when I could

teach other people how to do that, they began to have more

confidence. When they spoke, they began more confident

standing up to their father or their mother or in front of that

board room. Hmm.

You said that we teach what we need to learn,

did you struggle to vocalize?

I was cast in a very prestigious Theatre

Company, alternative Theatre Company in Pittsburgh many years

ago, in my mid 20s, in a new work, and it was called a

lyrical opera made by two which was written by Gertrude Stein.

And I played Gertrude Stein, I had my wife with me, Alice B.

Toklas. It was beautiful music. There were, you know, there was

spoken word there was singing, there was great. I had the best,

just got a lot of feedback from my director and my music

director. There were a lot of important people in the audience

on opening night. And after the show was over, one of the people

that I wanted to impress, came up to me and said, Darcy, you

were wonderful. If only I could have heard. Yeah, that was just

a kick in the gut. Yeah. So it isn't like I started, you know,

I started working on my voice and speech right away. About It

was just, I was so confused. I was stunned. It took me a while

to figure out what that was all about. It wasn't just being

vocally heard, it was being it was being able to connect with

the audience in a truly authentic way. And if I had been

able to truly unleash the true sound that was in me, instead of

trying to sound right, instead of trying to sound pretty,

instead of worrying about doing the right thing. Everyone would

have heard me.

Interesting. So I'm not sure that this will

work on a podcast, but I'm wondering if it will, is there a

way that we can feel the difference between sort of like

a suppressed voice and one that's kind of unleashed? Like

is there a way that we can do an example of this?

I can, I can try. A lot of times what happens when

we are tamping down our sound is we stop breathing. We don't

really stop breathing, because you know, we're alive. We're

breathing, we're getting some oxygen in there. But we will

hold our breath. And we will hold it in the upper lobes of

our lungs. So you hear what I'm sounding like right now it

sounds a little tense. And I'm actually speaking from my

throat, because I'm holding my breath. Hmm. But if I release my

belly, if I release that area in my you know, my solar plexus,

which that area, ribs, that's where a lot of us, that's where

a lot of people carry their tension. If I can release that,

then the air flows more freely. So you hear a difference between

my talking now. I can talking now, this is when I'm holding my

breath. Hmm. I've actually done it on stage before where I and I

have taken nanosecond where I could, I could just feel the the

tension building and building and I just, I couldn't get my

breath anymore, because I was only breathing using the upper

lobes of my lungs. As soon as I released that area just took a

second no one saw me no one knew released that. Suddenly the air

was flowing again. And my sound my words, were riding on that

voice just like a magic carpet.

No magic carpet. I love it. That's so

interesting. And when you say that, I think like I've always

had a very loud voice. And it's I think it might be a deeper

voice than maybe some people have. I'm not sure like I've

always been an alto instead of a soprano. And, you know, it was

always surprising to me when people had really soft voices,

because I think I just always had the ability to be like very,

very loud. But I think part of it is, and when you were

mentioning the sort of like everybody carrying their tension

in their lower abdomen, to a certain extent, I think part of

that might just be about all of our fears about not being thin

enough. Like we're trying to hold all that in, is that true?

Or am I making that up?

You that is true for some people, some people

actually cannot release that part of their body because

they're so concerned about being fat. And I have, I've actually

stood in a private studio with somebody and worked with that

person to get them to release that. That bit of flesh, because

they thought it was, you know, making them look as thin as

possible. And really, I mean, if we were on camera, I could show

you it doesn't make the least bit of difference. All the time.

I know it really doesn't. And, and dancers have a tendency to

really hold there, I have to remind dancers to let that go.

It is also an emotional thing. And I was years ago, a few years

ago, I was taking a workshop up in New York City with the great,

scary, the Great, the scary, Patsy Rodenburg.

Great, the scary, scary, many calls me the

greatest.

And there were 30 people and she's in the big

studio, and she was taking us through this exercise a bout

identifying in the body where our tension was. Now, mind you,

I've been working on this stuff for years and years and years.

Suddenly, I felt area within my solar plexus release, like two

steel doors opening. And I fell to my knees and burst into

tears. And she spun around and looked at me and said, What is

it? And I said, I don't know. I just all of a sudden remembered

all of my family saying get out of the way. Shut up. Stop being

melodramatic. And she pointed her scary finger at me. And she

said they were afraid of your power. Ooh. And I think what

happens is, when we tap down our voice, whether we are

constricting our throat or holding tension in our solar

plexus, sometimes we hold tension in our rear ends. We

pull up on our rear ends. It's it is about controlling

ourselves. It is about being appropriate. Mm hmm. Mm hmm. It

is about not offending people. Fascinating. So now

it's interesting because you think

like, oh, I'm going to release my voice. I'm going to like do

some mechanical things and like, make my chest a little less

tense. And then I'm going to be able to project and everything's

gonna be fine. And then then you're like, Oh, God, I'm child

a trauma and yeah, and raise my power. Like, what a what an

unexpectedly powerful thing you do.

Yeah. Yeah. So and really, I'm working largely on

mechanics. I remember I was standing by one young woman in a

studio, and she was doing her monologue and I was side

coaching her, which means I stand at her side, and I talk

quietly in her ear. And I said to her, open your mouth. And she

opened her mouth a little bit more, she was speaking and I

said, open it more. And she opened it a little more. And

then she stopped. And then she began to cry. And I said, keep

talking and she cried, and she talked I said keep opening your

mouth and she cried. And she talked and she kept opening her

mouth. We don't open our mouths to speak. We will open our mouth

a little bit to speak. And we just use maybe part of our lips,

but we keep our jaws closed. fairly tight. But yeah, but if

you open your mouth, more sound comes out. Or feeling comes out.

Right? Tell us what gardening is. Gardening is when you

stretch your face into really, I wish I could show you silly

faces. So think Shrek over and you're really pulling ugly faces

faces that you would never make in public and what you're doing

raising your eyebrows really high and scrunching them down

really low and what you're doing is you're activating all of

those muscles in the face. We call it burning because it's

actually called burning and rural England. And if you

Google, burn grn girl get lots of pictures of people who look

really crazy people who are folding their upper lip, their

nose, or, and they have these contests in rural England, and

they win prizes. Yeah.

Well, I'm wondering. So in these rooms

full of people, you said these are not faces, you would make it

public. And yet there we were in public and these rooms full of

like 25 people making faces at each other with you. And you, of

course, just at the front, making them so bigger and

bigger. So we would just get more into it. And I was always

fascinated to find how full of excited energy those rooms were

after the fact. And some of it, I think, is because we were

making silly faces. But I also wonder how much of it was what

you were describing, just we're releasing all this tension and

suddenly realizing, like just releasing all this energy,

and allowed to be free and allowed to play. You

know, we are really allowed to play that often. And I remember

when I first started coaching at HBS, and I said to Michael

Porter, who is one of the founders, I said, Well, gosh,

I'm really after my first lesson, I hope I wasn't too

inappropriate. And he said, Let your freak flag fly. And so I

said, thank you. And so from then on, I did a couple of years

later, I walked into a corporate boardroom, they were a bunch of

scientists. And I was trying to explain to them how releasing

the anal sphincter would make people feel more comfortable

when they walked into a presentation. And then I

proceeded to show him the zoo Walshaw ladder, which you may

remember has classes, quite physical and quite vocal and

makes everybody feel very silly and very happy. Yeah. And by the

end of that, I'm really not sure whether they were in trance, or

whether they were stunned. But I, I didn't care. Because that

was my gift. Yeah, yes. And I think we are all so eager to not

try and squish ourselves into a round hole if we're square or

square hole if we're round. Yeah.

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into the world. Well, the freedom I think we are both very

eager to squish ourselves into that square hole if we're around

so that we can finally be deemed good enough and, like,

acceptable, you know, so we can exist with some sense of ease.

And the real, the real message I feel like you're saying is that

the real sense of ease comes from going in the other

direction. Just

be who you are, be who you are, be who you are. And

so often, when we uncork that voice inside of us, we begin to

discover who we really are. Here I am. Here, right? Here I am.

I love it. Well, you're great at helping

people. I think, obviously, you know this, that you're great at

helping people figure out their voice. But I wonder what

challenges have you experienced as you've been in pursuit of

your great work? Oh, well,

I'm sure that many people have experienced what I I

have and continue to struggle with from time to time, which

is, am I good enough? Am I an imposter at this? What makes me

think that I can can do this, I think to to truly discover my

value. That's that's the quest that I have been on for the last

five years. You know, coming from the theater. Anytime

anybody offers you a gig, whether it's you know, $500 a

week or a buck 280 We will take it. We have always been that

way. That's what actors do. And recently, an actor approached me

and we had a consult call. And I explained to her how I could

help her. And she asked me my rate. And she was quite

surprised by it. And she said, You know what? She said, I think

we all should be asking for what we are worth. And I don't think

actors do that enough. She said, and someday I'm going to do what

you're doing. And so I think that's a that's been a big

discovery coming from the theater. Because I would do

anything. Teach, I would, I would accept anything I would

teach for free. And I actually I still do from time to time. But,

but I always did it because I thought, Oh, I'm at this, you

know, I'm so fortunate to be able to do this. I'll take it,

whatever you offer me. People don't pay artists for what they,

they what they should pay them. They don't pay them what they

think art is free. And it's not. Yeah.

So how did you overcome that? What do you

feel like? What kind of realizations have because I feel

like you are describing a very common, like you said, a very

common not just in theater, I come from academia, where we

were also convinced that we must do everything for free. Yeah,

you should take this adjunct job for 300 or $3,000. For four

months of work. You know, we're like, Well, I'm just lucky to

have a job. It's like, this is craziness. So I feel like it's

kind of everywhere. It's sort of a power play really, in those

really hierarchical systems. So I feel like a lot of people

struggle with this. So what how did you overcome it? Or how are

you overcoming?

hired a business coach tell you more about that.

I made it was it was it a year ago? Well, it was during the

pandemic. And I thought, I don't know how to do this. And I don't

know how to raise my rates. And I don't, I don't think I'm

charging enough. But I don't know how to charge. I don't know

how to how to run a business. And I need to take this more

seriously. People are asking me for my help. And I don't know

how to organize my time. I don't know how to organize my

finances. I need a coach. And so a year in three months ago, I

hired a business coach. And it was great. And she took me from

zero to 60 in about three months. Yeah. So I it was it was

great. It was really great. And then I began to discover

what really, if you can go into it and sort

of remember what realizations did you have about your worth?

Or about? You know, one might be that wow, artists really are

not, we really aren't paid what we're worth that would be a

realization. But were there others where you realized

something that, you know, maybe everybody else already knew,

right? Like you are a rockstar. But you had to really realize it

for yourself, what occurred to you, as you were sort of getting

over this scarcity mindset that plagues so many of us

think I really, with the help of a coach, I

started hearing it. When I got feedback, I always deflected.

The positive feedback, I didn't want to hear the negative

feedback either. Right. But I, I thought I know that's not true.

When anybody said to me, you've really helped me. When I can

stand in front of somebody that I'm coaching and see a

difference, then then I know that when I see a difference, I

know, when I began working with adults, adults work much faster

than college students, college students they got they've got

other classes, they've got rehearsals they've got they also

are just a little younger. Don't get feedback from them until

years later. But like right away, I can see a change in an

in an adult working with an adult and then I know I'm making

a difference. And when that change sticks, I've learned how

to teach them to practice so that they can sustain that

change. Because I have a couple of little tricks in my pocket.

You know, I say to people, okay, stick two fingers in your mouth

and now speak. You take your fingers out and automatically

you're speaking better. But if you don't know how to practice

to do that, the change isn't going to last. Yeah,

well, peculiarly brilliant Italian

William and I spend a lot of time with my mouth saying that,

especially before I'm going to do a solo podcast. It's such a

brilliant,

it's a brilliant tongue twister. It is it is. But

I like it, it makes me happy. It makes me sort

of imagine him being peculiarly brilliant in my mind. He lives

in like Victorian England, like we've had, we have a long

relationship now, peculiarly brilliant talent. But it's

interesting. Like, I feel like, there has been a shift in the

world where, I mean, previously, I think you may have felt like,

the only people to work with that really need full access to

their voice are actors and singers and, and now I feel like

maybe even COVID has made it even more intensely true, that

now we all need to have greater access to our voice. Well, I

think so because a lot of people are on Zoom now,

but I think also I have realized that it is from spending the

last five years working with adults, and not just public

speakers, right. But doctors learning how to have a better

bedside manner, or therapists learning how to speak with

intention, or, you know, people, people who who simply need are

looking for greater self confidence. Like I go in

advertising, that I teach self confidence, that's just sort of

the byproduct.

No, yeah, but I think it could be the product

too. You know, I

had a student years ago, many years ago, and it was

clear, he had some attention issues, and he couldn't sit in

my class. And I could see him itching to get out of that seat

and go do the next thing. He was a good student, but I just never

felt like he was really quite there. You wrote to me 15 years

later, and he said, I'm a nurse in Denver, Colorado, and I want

you to know that the work that you taught me, in sophomore

speech class is work I use every single

day. Okay, give me an example. Tell me

about this nurse. What? Why does voice work, help a nurse do

their job better?

I think it teaches people to speak with intention.

And specificity teaches people to pay attention to what's

coming out of their mouths all the time. You know, so many

people when they talk, it's like throwing spaghetti against the

wall, they're going to talk and talk and talk and talk until

stuff than sticks. Right? Or until something feels right or

sounds right. But when we learn the art of speaking, we have

created an awareness about this instrument and how it serves how

we communicate. Mm hmm.

So let's tell a story. He's a nurse. And he's

going to have to walk into somebody's office and say, I'm

here to take your blood. That's a pair. I sounded like a

vampire. Right? So that's not how you say it. The dip, so give

me just helped me understand the difference it makes in that

moment. Okay.

I'm going to look you in the eye to make contact

with you. I'm going to greet you with a warm sound. Hmm. I'm

going to have an intention before I walk in that room that

I'm going to put you at ease.

Okay, so that you literally think so this is

part of it. You think before you enter an interaction. Yeah, the

impact you're hoping to have?

Yep. So it's not just about how you pronounce the

word blood. It's about the impact that you are going to

have. How am I going to communicate to this person and

make them feel whatever it is, or make them hear whatever it

is? I want them to hear? Hmm. Allow them to hear it and allow

them to feel it? Mm hmm. So we start, it's like, say to actors,

your performance starts before you walk on stage. Mm hmm. Not

after you start speaking. Because then you're, you know,

you're groping for words and how you want to say it. Oh, that

probably didn't say that. Right. And where's my needle and right,

yeah, we're always performing. We're always getting ready to

perform. That doesn't mean it's in authentic. We're ready. We're

ready. So

it's tell me what it means to perform. If it

doesn't mean to put on a show. It means

to be present. means to be ready. So before I

came on with you to meet you, I was here five minutes early. And

I am attending to Amanda, attending to what her podcast is

all about. And I am attending to who's going to listen and who

will benefit. So I have intention to communicate.

Instead of Oh shit, she'll ask me some questions. And I'll kind

of ad lib this, and it'll be okay. And right, it's sitting

back in my sea, right? I'm here for you. I'm fully present.

Yeah.

Well, that's interesting. If you think about

the nurse, right? The different experiences we've all had in

doctors offices, just as one example, right, some of the

nurses they come in, they don't look at you. They put, so I'm

very afraid of needles. So like, I'm hyper focused at all times.

When is the needle coming out? You know, they walk in with

their like, bag of plastic stuff, and they put it on the

table. And I'm like, looking at it the whole time waiting to see

if the shoe is about to drop that they're going to have to

take my blood. And sometimes they don't even look at me. And

they say, they look at me long enough to say, are you ready?

Which arm Do you want? versus my new doctors so much better? She

comes in she like talks to me for a minute. I'm here to take

your blood. Is this you? Right? It's like, it's so easy to be

intentional. But I think I don't know. Do you agree? Most people

are just not intentional in the moments of their lives.

I would agree. I would absolutely agree. And I

think their lives would be richer if they learned how to be

intentional and fully present. Hmm. Well, it's

fascinating to think that studying voice

would be a way to become more intentional and present.

It's because we're paying attention to something

specific what is coming out of our mouths right now, right now.

And we can't It's not like we can't do that

we totally can. We can and Darcy can teach

us. And I can tell you. So tell me about the kinds of people

that you work with? So is it all doctors and lawyers? Or is it

people with podcasts? Like who typically do you work with on

this kind of stuff?

Well, you know, it's just not typical I, I have

a motivational coach, I have a business coach, I have a couple

of podcasters, a lawyer, starting their own business to

actors, and somebody who is just terrified to speak, hmm, really

high anxiety, their anxiety is keeping them from getting a job.

And they're really smart. No, I might not be able to help them

with their anxiety. I'm not a therapist, but I can do all the

mechanics of the voice and speech work. And this has

happened. And as well, where we've gotten through with one

client got through all the mechanics of the voice and

speech work. And this person demanded that they had not

learned enough and I hadn't given them what they needed. And

I said to them, now you need a therapy is where I can't help

you.

Right, right. Because sometimes doing it's

kind of like embodied therapy, right, like somatic

practitioners, you know about this a little bit. And you do, I

feel like it's what you're talking about. Even when we were

talking about gurning, where you scratch your face around a bunch

like that there's a book called The Body Keeps the Score, I

think I know it, probably the most no mainstream way to think

about somatic practitioner. And the notion that we're storing,

like, when you're releasing tension in your face, for

example, you may actually be releasing a traumatic memory,

which is why that person was crying when they opened their

mouth. And it's interesting to think like how sometimes being

more present, like as we put all the pieces of what you do

together, right? Like, I'm going to make you more present in your

life. Because you're going to pay attention to the words

coming out of your mouth, you're going to set intentions and that

like creates this container that most of us are not in we are not

in the container of this present moment. We're like way the fuck

back in our childhood or thinking about next Tuesday's

doctor's appointment. That's right, right. So like brings you

into this container of the moment, and then really starts

to release the things that keep you from being fully present in

that moment. And I can really see how even that would just be

powerful enough for a lot of people who don't have a ton of

trauma and could release a lot and just make you feel more

loose and free and present. And that's before your voice sounds

better on your podcast. Right? Or you're sitting in the

boardroom and you're like, I have something to say I'm in

this moment. I know how to set an intention and bring my voice

to the moment Were in I guess that's how I speak in

boardrooms. Who knows? That's so interesting. Darcy, I can

imagine everybody who's listening to this right now is

like, Who is this woman? I must, I must say, how can they? How

can they get to know you a little bit more? How can they

find out about you? Well, I would love to know them.

So I'm going to tell you tell me, go to my website, Darci

web.com, you can opt in to my mailing list by clicking on that

little button and then you'll get a breath warm up. So you'll

get a little taste of what it's like to work with me. And then

if you want more, email me at Darcy at Darcy web.com. And then

we can set up a free consult call and we can have a

conversation over zoom. And that'll be lovely. Because then

you and I can meet one another.

No, I love it. Well, I will add my own

personal recommendation that you absolutely do those things. I

actually have a warm up that I do with Darcy every morning, she

doesn't know I spend every morning, seven minutes every

morning with her. Thank you. Thank you and peculiarly

brilliant Italian William. And I do think it just it makes it

just makes a huge difference to feel present in my voice, which

is not something I would normally say but makes it it

makes a big difference if you do have a podcast or you are going

to be all day on Zoom. Or if you're teaching a class or if

you're going to talk I mean therapists are. A lot of the

people that I know from my work are therapists and coaches and

we spend all day on Zoom trying to connect with people. It's a

lot. It's a lot having strategies and skills for that

would be

amazing. physical, physical strategies, mental

strategies. Yep.

strategies, strategies, strategies. That's

what Darcy has to transform your life. Well, Darcy, I want to

thank you so much for coming on this podcast today. I learned a

ton. I'm sure everyone else did, too. So thank you for taking the

time.

I'm so happy that you invited me and it was such a

pleasure. Thank you so much.

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