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Who Are The Characters In Our Dreams? With Laure Porché
Episode 34th November 2021 • A Lone Traveler's Guide to the Divine • Amanda Lux
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Do you ever wonder who you the characters are that you are dreaming about and what they represent? 

Or why so many people experience strange dream phenomena such as precognitive dreams (dreaming things before they happen), or dream visitations from people who are deceased who bring messages we could not otherwise know.

In the third episode of A Lone Traveler's Guide to the Divine Amanda Lux dives deep into the science and theory behind the Morphic Field, and offers a multilayered approach to interpreting who our dream characters may be.

Amanda also interviews Laure Porché who shares a dream titled: The golden Die

About Laure Porché

Therapist, dancer, poet, textile artist, Laure loves to create spaces of freedom and depth, where everyone can express themselves fully and find the truth of their soul.

She believes in the power of community to reconnect human beings to their strength and innate joy. She is the creator of the Moonlit Path, a ten month creative course to expand your perception of yourself and the world, and is the host of The Moonlit Path Podcast.

Instagram: @laureporche  

Website: http://laureporche.com

The Moonlit Path Course : http://moonlitpath.space

Listen to Laure's podcast here

For more information on our free courses, resources and upcoming workshops or to learn more about our Patreon and membership go to Elevationhive.com

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Laure Porché:

I always look at dreams in terms of like, those are

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all different parts of me, but in this case it feels doubly clear.

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And I also liked the idea of the dice and the chance and cause, cause in

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the dream I'm thinking, there's no way I'm going to, like, there's no way to

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catch that it has to fall in your lap.

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Right.

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And that's a little bit the messages that I'm getting on terms of like kind of

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stop running around, trying to catch it.

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Like it's gonna fall on your lap and you just have to wait for.

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Spend a lot of mental energy about, you know, how and how and why.

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And maybe I should just do whatever and trust that will you know, that

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it will come through whatever I do.

Amanda Lux:

welcome to a lone travelers guide to the divine, a podcast for

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empaths, healers, streamers, and seekers.

Amanda Lux:

My name is Amanda Lux, and I'm your host.

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I'm also the creator of the elevation hive school and community membership

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for energy medicine and dreams.

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In this podcast, I offer teachings and musings around energy

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medicine, polarity therapy, and dreamwork, as well as poetry songs.

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And as you will be experiencing in today's episode interviews with

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other individuals on their healer's journey who come to share a dream.

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So today's episode.

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I've invited Laura Porche to share her dream with us.

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Laure is a polarity and constellation therapist who lives in France.

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She's also a dancer poet, textile artist, and the creator of the moon,

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that path, which in her words is a 10 month creative course to expand

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your perception of yourself and the.

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Laura is also the host of the Moonlit path podcast, which is super awesome.

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And you should definitely check it out in my show notes.

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There's a direct link.

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So go give her podcast a listen..

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But before I dive into the interview with Laura Porche and her super cool

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dream, which is titled the golden dice, I wanted to share that this episode is

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really broken up into three sections.

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One super interesting thing that comes up in Laura's dream is this

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idea around who are the characters in our dreams, who do they represent?

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So in this first section, I'm going to be talking a little bit

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about that and I'll be offering a multi-layered approach to the roles

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that our dream characters can play.

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And with that, I'm also going to be discussing the morphic field

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or the knowing field as it's.

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And how this can inform our dreams as well as our waking

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lives in a very profound way.

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In the second section, I'll be setting some groundwork for how to receive a dream

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using the elemental dreamwork method.

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And in the third section, I'll be interviewing Laura where

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she will share her dream.

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So as we.

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I just want to share that it is my intention to offer not only a listening

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experience in this podcast, but to invite you on a journey one where

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you do not have to travel alone.

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So rather than just passively listening, I invite you to be an active participator

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through this recognition that you belong to this shared and conscious

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field that is being woven here by you and all who listen, no matter where

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you are or when you are coming to the.

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So as we embark on this journey, I trust that you are going to find

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something in this dream or in this discussion that is specifically for you.

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And I invite you to pay attention and to look for that.

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By noticing what's going on in your environment and in your body and your

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thoughts and your intuition along the way.

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Because the more consciousness that we bring to the theory and

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practice of this work, the more it deepens our participation and every.

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Is a part of it.

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It becomes embodied and experiential and phenomenological.

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So that means that anything that happens in the space where you are

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contributes to and arises from the intelligence of this field that we

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are sharing and invoking right now.

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And in addition, I would also like to offer this prayer , that

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whatever occurs for you.

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In this episode brings you some healing or amusement connection.

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But most of all, may this playful work empower your life on all dimensions.

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I'd like to invite you to imagine that you're looking at

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the sky and you're watching.

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Uh, murmuration of starlings, a group of birds that are moving through the

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clouds as though they are one organism changing direction, moving in such

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a synchronized pattern without a.

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Shifting from one way to another way as though they have some secret form

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of communication that is transferred instantaneously before they have

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time to mentally process or visually locate where each other are in this

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flock, they just move perfectly.

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How are they communicating?

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How do they know.

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Where to go and when to keep in this form, this perfect form.

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And there's been a lot of science around this, trying to explain these phenomena.

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And they found that even in packs of wolves or in families we just know

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things before we could know them.

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We know them without having any visual or external evidence to initiate

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this, knowing we just know when something's happening, we know where

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somebody is or when they're about to return or when someone's staring

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at us from far away, we can feel it.

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Why, why do we feel this?

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How do we know?

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Well, some say that this is because of what is known as the morphic field.

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And this term was coined by Rupert Sheldrake, who taught

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biochemistry at Cambridge university.

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And he studied these phenomena in nature, really looking for that parallel between

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the collective unconscious that Jung talks about and how this happens in

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plant studies or also in human studies that we have this, knowing field or

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a morphic field that surrounds us that extends beyond our physicality that has

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to do with the transfer of information instantaneously or pre-cognitive.

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And if you listen to the second episode of this podcast, I talked about how we

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have an electromagnetic field with a positive and negative and neutral pole,

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just like the planet, just like magnets.

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And if you haven't listened to that episode, I invite you to

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go back for more references.

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Because another way that Sheldrake talks about this field, this morphic field is

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if you imagine that you're holding two magnets, and if you have the opposite

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ends facing each other and you draw them closer together, you're going to feel

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that pull far before they actually touch.

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And that time, that space before the magnets are touching, that's

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where their field is interacting.

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So, if you imagine that we have this field surrounding our body, we could

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actually pick up information that enters our field from others nearby or with whom

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our energy is entrained or connected.

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And it's postulated that this might be how we could know when someone is

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staring at us behind our back or how we could pick up information that isn't

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conveyed through words or actions.

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And so I want to extend this imagination that we don't only

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have this in our own body, our own field, but in groups as well.

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Just like we see in a school of fish or an army of ants, there's

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this group conscious field where there's a transfer of information

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that's going on and a, an organized way , that animals, nature plants,

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humans are responding to one another.

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And another way that science has, you know, been able to witness it is when

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they have, , rats or other animals in cages, far, far apart from each other.

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And what they found is that as soon as one group of rats learn or

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one single rat even learns a new thing, like breaks through to a new

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discovery, they find that that happens in rats, thousands of miles away.

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They all have that discovery so this shared conscious field, if you

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will, this morphic field is something that we can really, , tap into.

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In group work, such as constellation therapy, which is something that

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lower Porsche who is our guest today talks a bit about because

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she is a constellation therapist.

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And the way that works is somebody brings an issue, a life issue, a family

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issue, something that they want to work.

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And a group of people, we'll represent different aspects of their issue and.

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The people who are tuning into the field take on these roles or these

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aspects, they will start to know things and say things and act in ways that

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they could never know consciously.

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They will say the exact words that, that person's father used to say to

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them, or have images or sensations or feelings come up in their body.

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Are exactly what that person has experienced around this issue.

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It's really powerful when you participate , but we've all experienced

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it in some way, whether that was, with a feeling someone's staring at

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us or, just , knowing when somebody is going to call or having a dream

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about somebody and then they show up in your life randomly after 30 years,

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, like that kind of thing is so common.

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And we just don't have any real solid explanation for it in science, but I

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love this idea of the morphic field.

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I think that's one of the closest ways that science has come to breaking through,

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so the reason why I wanted to bring this in to this episode, Other than that.

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I think it's just utterly fascinating.

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And I could talk about this all day long is that law Porsche

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is a constellation therapist.

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And so she mentions this in her description of her dream

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that you will be hearing.

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How all of these different characters that are showing up in the space are really

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showing up as different aspects of her.

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And so I just wanted to talk about that a little bit, because there are

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various different perspectives, around who the dream characters that you

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meet in your dreams are, who are.

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And who do they represent?

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And some of the different versions or, or ways that people try to look at

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this are one is that they, there is a belief that all the characters are made

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up by our own brain, our own psyche, and, and that we're just projecting,

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And maybe Freud would say that, but I think according to young, he might

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talk more about how our dreams could be representing different archetypal

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qualities or symbolic aspects of ourselves such as our shadow or our

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inner child, or our deep seated fears that we've not really processed.

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And then there's also visitation type dreams where the main

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characters are not necessarily just symbols or symbolic aspects, such

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as people who have passed away.

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Maybe we know them or we don't, or maybe they even have information for

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us that we couldn't otherwise know.

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And we could be meeting with ancestors or.

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Different spirits.

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And then there's also Tibetan dream or sleep yoga practices

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where they intentionally go and work with teachers, enlightened

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ones, but he sought Fez or devas.

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And then there's Shamani practices from around the globe and throughout

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history where people have reported meeting with different time travelers

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in their dreams or shape-shifters animal spirit guides, higher selves

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or alternate parallel selves.

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Different briefings from other worlds or dimensions even.

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You know, and you don't even have to be religious to meet with angels.

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I've met with the angel Gabrielle one, a lucid dream on my roof of my house.

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So I know you can meet with angels and all different types of beings.

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I've met with almost all of these types of beings in my dreams.

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And then of course, spoken with other individuals who have had similar

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experiences and more than I could even mention here, it's it's VAT.

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But ultimately, I just want to convey that.

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I think it's really cool to allow for multiple possibilities to exist at the

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same time that we can interpret our dreams in a multilayered way without

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discounting one version or another.

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And I like the idea that multiple things could be possible because

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sometimes we're not even dream.

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For ourselves or as ourselves, we're actually in another dreamers body , or

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we're having a dream for somebody else.

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And this happens, this definitely happens.

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And I've heard many stories like this.

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That's another possibility.

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So even while we are inhabiting somebody else's body, and one way you can find

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that out in a dream is just to ask, like, who am I looking in a mirror?

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And sometimes you might discover that you are not yourself.

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And that's really interesting.

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So when we're not ourselves, and where somebody else do, we cease to be ourselves

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because we're still our own consciousness.

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How much of ourselves are we and how much of ourselves are, are they?

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So just to like, you know, this isn't necessarily meant to be entertainment.

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Although I find it really entertaining, it's meant to open up this.

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Realm of possibility for you to ponder who are the dream characters

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that you're interacting with.

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And I actually had a dream just last night.

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I had a dream and I had seeded my dream two nights before

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I asked for a dream where I could know in the dream that I was dreaming.

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And those were the words that I used.

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And so two nights later, I had a dream where in the middle of this random dream,

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I suddenly realized that I was dreaming.

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I became lucid.

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And as soon as I became lucid , I looked at this, there was this random word.

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Person passing me on a S on a stairwell.

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And I looked at them and I just like broke through that wall of congeniality

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that where we don't stare at people, cause I was like, I'm dreaming.

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This is my dream.

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And who is this guy?

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Like, how did he get here?

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Who, who, who is he?

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And I was just staring at him.

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And the funniest thing happened is the more I looked at him, the

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more like he started to, he, it, he realized I was staring at him

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and he got really uncomfortable and he started back up the stairs.

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Like he was getting freaked out that I was staring at.

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In this really unconventional way.

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And like, I was this Uber conscious, you know, being

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just looking right through him.

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And he started to become almost two dimensional.

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I noticed that he, he stopped feeling like a real person and he started to seem more

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like one of those, what they call like a non-player character in a video game.

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I swear I don't play video games, but my son does.

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I, that was the first thing I thought of in the dream.

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I'm like, as he a non-player character, he just, the stand in.

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Is he even a real person?

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What is he doing here?

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He was just passing by.

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So.

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I didn't, I don't have any answers for that, but I think the mystery is

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far more interesting than any answer I could possibly make up for you.

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And I remember when I was a teenager and I've been obsessed with dreams my

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whole life, this character in this book suggested that we could move through

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our waking lives as though we were in a dream and contemplating and meeting

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each character in our waking lives as though they were an aspect of ourselves.

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And I loved that.

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The game of that so much that I started thinking like that when I

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was a teenager, I started to observe what aspect of me are they playing?

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What are they showing me?

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What are they mirroring from inside my own psyche or my own soul that I

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haven't even contemplated yet, that I need to know what do I need to know?

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What do I need to learn from this?

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And we could even weave this into this whole concept of a field of intelligence

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that is shared, that is swimming around in this soup of intelligence

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that we can tap into at any time.

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And that in this consciousness soup, we're all playing each

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other mirroring each other.

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And we are all the center of the universe.

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And we are even the non-player character that are showing up.

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Where the inanimate objects and what if.

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Even those have some kind of sentience or intelligence or reflection for us.

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And if there is this shared field of consciousness that could extend, , to

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other individuals or groups, could it not extend to all people and all

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beings and all things everywhere.

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I mean, why not?

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So I invite you to go on this dream adventure with me as we now move

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into just a little breakdown of the elemental dreamwork method followed by

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the, "the Golden Dice" Laura's dream.

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In the elemental dreamwork.

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We are moving through each of the five elements, which correlate to the

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five physical chakras in the body.

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And we are applying these qualities that each of the elements possess to a way

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of listening to and contemplating our.

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And so the first one, the first element is the ether element and

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that relates to the throat chakra.

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And when we listened to the dream , and you can do this with friends, family,

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clients, whomever you want to first invite them to tune into what's in the field.

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Here's that word again?

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What's in the knowing field of their life that could be affecting them.

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And maybe this is something they were thinking about talking about

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something that's been on their mind, or perhaps they seeded the dream or they

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incubated the dream with an intention.

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Maybe they wanted to have a specific dream or ask for

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guidance around a specific issue.

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And so all of that would be in the ether of the dream elemental dream work process.

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And the next level down is the air element, which rules the

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heart chakra, and also our mind.

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And so when we get to the air element of the dream sharing

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process, we're asking the person to.

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Think about and talk about and communicate what the dream was about.

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If you were by yourself, that would be writing it down in a dream journal, or

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it could be speaking it out loud into a recorder, or you could be sharing

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it with somebody in your life and just contemplating it or psychoanalyzing

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it from a mental perspective.

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From there, we stepped down into the fire element.

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So we go from, you know, the ether what's in the field of this stream to

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the air, which is the mental field to the fire, which is the physical field.

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We're now stepping into a lower vibratory pattern.

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Embodied.

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And so I invite in the fire of the, of the dream sharing process to

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tune into how you feel in your body.

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As you tell the dream, as you contemplate it and share it, you know, what did

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you feel when you very first woke up in your body and what do you feel now?

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Because there's a whole lot of information.

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That is held in our physical bodies.

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And when we tune in somatically to the dream space, we get more, we get

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informed in a deeper way, and that could be, um, sensations that are

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arising in the moment, or it could be sensations that we had in the dreams.

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That are informing us.

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So that's just another layer.

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Another way to glean information or insight or Intuit insight, uh,

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information from the dream space.

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And then from the fire, we move into the water element,

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which relates to the second.

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And the water is that sort of deeper, intuitive knowing I

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often think of the sharing or the reflection that comes back to us.

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Once we have shared the dream or what's being reflected , as we

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move through our waking lives.

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Now with that dream in our consciousness where the world is reflecting back

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and then the last element is the earth element and in the earth element

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where we're really coming to the completion of the cycle and we're

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taking it into our lives now, maybe with some kind of action or ritual,

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how do we want to honor the dream?

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How are we going to take action based on what we learned from the dream?

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What do we want to create because of this dream?

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And it just takes then.

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The information or the learning or the, it deepens it to an embodied,

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uh, way of living the dream.

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And so that's the final aspect of the elemental dreamwork process.

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And I just wanted to give you a little rundown of those in case this is your

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first time listening, but also because you know, each time we contemplate each

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of these layers, it takes us somewhere

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so I invite you to tune in to your own energy as you listened to Laura's

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dream as though it were your own.

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Welcome Laura.

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Thank you so much for being here.

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Thank you for having me.

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While we're here in the ether.

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I just want to just kind of set the space a little bit before you share

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your dream, just to kind of invoke the space and invite, our guides and allies

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and , just speak to the container that, that this is for the highest good of all.

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And that it's a safe and sacred.

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For you to share.

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And so I really appreciate you being willing to share a dream.

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It's a vulnerable thing, and it's a beautiful gift because when you share

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it, it becomes our dream to a little bit.

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So thank you.

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You're welcome.

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My pleasure.

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Cool.

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And so you brought a dream to share.

Laure Porché:

Yeah, I don't, um, I don't usually plant seeds or have intent.

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But it's a pretty recent dream.

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It's like maybe a week old.

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And, I'm in this, I mean, this phase in my life where I'm really reevaluating how

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I want to work and what it wants to do.

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And like asking all those questions about who am I and what am I bringing to the

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world and how am I going to share it?

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And so that's kind of like the.

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The environment that I'm in the inner environment, this is hard thing.

Laure Porché:

Got it.

Laure Porché:

Okay.

Laure Porché:

So as we, as we move into the air of the dream process, I

Laure Porché:

would love to hear the dream.

Laure Porché:

Have you express it and share it, and . What you think of it.

Laure Porché:

Um, in the dream, I'm going with a friend I'm with a friend and we're going

Laure Porché:

to, to watch an audience like a trial.

Laure Porché:

Um, and then when we get there, it's not a trial, it's a guru,

Laure Porché:

um, doing like a massive.

Laure Porché:

Kind of conference many people everywhere.

Laure Porché:

And, and the group is like, uh, OSHA light, you know, is like a very typical

Laure Porché:

or white with a beard and turban.

Laure Porché:

And my friends is the best place to say this by the wall.

Laure Porché:

And then she sits and then she sits Stoli in a different place.

Laure Porché:

And I'm like, okay.

Laure Porché:

And, and I see those, some people are sitting on those very low chair.

Laure Porché:

Um, and I'm, and I really like those chairs and I really want to find

Laure Porché:

one of those chairs to sit in and I can't find what they're all taken.

Laure Porché:

And they've piles of chairs that are all different and I'm rooting through

Laure Porché:

all those piles of chairs, trying to find the chair that I saw that I

Laure Porché:

want to sit in and I'm not finding.

Laure Porché:

And I'm looking at her.

Laure Porché:

I'm like, I really can't find my place.

Laure Porché:

I can find my place in the dream.

Laure Porché:

I'm thinking, well, this is a constellation thing.

Laure Porché:

Uh, I've had that awareness in the dream, oh, this is a constellation thing.

Laure Porché:

Where is your place?

Laure Porché:

Where is your chair?

Laure Porché:

She says the best places by the wall, but then she doesn't even sit there

Laure Porché:

seeing all these different chair options.

Laure Porché:

And you're taking in all the options.

Laure Porché:

Yeah.

Laure Porché:

And so I don't find the chair that I want.

Laure Porché:

So I, I ended up taking like two cushions and saying, okay, I'm just

Laure Porché:

going to sit against the wall so they can have something to lean on.

Laure Porché:

Um, and I try to sit next to someone who's playing a musical instrument and

Laure Porché:

it's really, it's a really tight fit.

Laure Porché:

And she says, no, when you please sit there where I can see

Laure Porché:

you, like, I want to see you.

Laure Porché:

And she calls me by my name.

Laure Porché:

And I feel really acknowledged by that.

Laure Porché:

I feel like, wow, she knows me.

Laure Porché:

Like what's, you know, it's like a huge crowd and how come she knows me?

Laure Porché:

And they feel very like, wow, this is, this is really nice.

Laure Porché:

I feel very seen.

Laure Porché:

And then, and so I haven't been in this thing to the group all this time.

Laure Porché:

Right.

Laure Porché:

There's been talk and I'd be like fixated on the chair and, and then he throws in

Laure Porché:

the crowd, a golden dice or cold and die.

Laure Porché:

I think you get, I guess you see, I never know in English it's like, um,

Laure Porché:

and I, and I, I gather that the one who catches it as the right to ask a

Laure Porché:

question, And the dice is bouncing, like at the speed of light everywhere.

Laure Porché:

And I almost catch it.

Laure Porché:

And then don't because it's just too fast.

Laure Porché:

And then this woman next, not far from him and catches it, um, with a tool, something

Laure Porché:

like some, some long tool actually catches it and she's really proud of herself.

Laure Porché:

She's like, look, I caught it.

Laure Porché:

And then when she goes to take it, the dust, the souls into

Laure Porché:

companies, or like some kind of.

Laure Porché:

Leaves.

Laure Porché:

And, um, and I wonder, and I'm thinking, oh, I wonder if this is because

Laure Porché:

she didn't catch it with her hands.

Laure Porché:

She caught it with a tool and that's the end of that.

Laure Porché:

So when you very first, like woke up from the stream and as you, as you're

Laure Porché:

sitting with it now as well, it's probably evolved a little bit for you.

Laure Porché:

I'm just curious, like, how do you feel, how do you feel in your body?

Laure Porché:

Like, what do you feel when you sit with this.

Laure Porché:

I feel my right side is really present.

Laure Porché:

I mean, it usually is, but I'm feeling it more than usual, I guess.

Laure Porché:

Um, I feel activated just because of telling it, you know, do you, or like

Laure Porché:

in this setting and zoom and, um,

Laure Porché:

And, um, um, I, I feel amused.

Laure Porché:

I think it's really funny.

Laure Porché:

I think it's a really telling dream and that makes me laugh.

Laure Porché:

So you feel sort of activated a little bit just from bringing it in and then

Laure Porché:

you also really notice your right side of your body and that's normal for you, but

Laure Porché:

you're really aware of that right now.

Laure Porché:

Is there something, do you have a particular question that you are

Laure Porché:

still pondering about the dream?

Laure Porché:

Well, I wonder what the guru is about.

Laure Porché:

Cause really, I didn't care at all about him, the whole dream.

Laure Porché:

Like he was like talking and teaching and it was like, I chair my chair

Laure Porché:

and then the person with the music and then, and then the day, but I

Laure Porché:

didn't, you know, it didn't feel like, oh, I have to listen to this person.

Laure Porché:

Yeah, I'm curious about the relationship, you know, if there is a relationship

Laure Porché:

and I'm also curious about the fact that I, I went into this room or

Laure Porché:

this place thinking I was going to watch a trial and I thought, I

Laure Porché:

think that's really interesting.

Laure Porché:

I don't know why it's really interesting, but it, it feels very interesting to me.

Laure Porché:

Um, but that transformed I trial.

Laure Porché:

And what is, what is trial mean to you?

Laure Porché:

Well, it brings the idea of, of judgment obviously.

Laure Porché:

Um, and, and, you know, what's good there, good and bad and right.

Laure Porché:

And wrong and notions that I'm not really fond of in general.

Laure Porché:

And just like the complete opposite between what I was

Laure Porché:

expecting, which is like a very.

Laure Porché:

Kind of dark room with, you know, very serious.

Laure Porché:

And then this is kind of like hippie crowd sitting on the

Laure Porché:

floor and chairs of all sizes.

Laure Porché:

And then it's like white girl, like all dressed in white.

Laure Porché:

Funny.

Laure Porché:

Moving into the, you know, the water elements of the process here, the

Laure Porché:

fire is sort of, how does it feel in your body what's coming up for you

Laure Porché:

and then tuning into the water of the.

Laure Porché:

I'm really just going to try it on as though it was my dream

Laure Porché:

and just like feeling into it.

Laure Porché:

The first sort of thing that I wonder is , what aspects of these characters

Laure Porché:

are, what's important about how they're embodying a reflection of myself or a part

Laure Porché:

of my own life or my own psyche versus.

Laure Porché:

Are they guides or, sometimes it's both simultaneously of course, too,

Laure Porché:

but when I try it on, I think like about that aspect of, of me as the guru.

Laure Porché:

Right.

Laure Porché:

And I also love that you had that thought like, oh, this is so

Laure Porché:

constellation when you're looking for them in the dream, you know, that

Laure Porché:

you're looking for the right seat.

Laure Porché:

Where do you go?

Laure Porché:

Where do you put yourself in the scene?

Laure Porché:

And the question ultimately of like, who is the guru or.

Laure Porché:

And maybe, should I not be focusing on him rather than on all the chair options.

Laure Porché:

That's just not going to make a big difference.

Laure Porché:

Yeah.

Laure Porché:

I mean, also in the context of what you were saying, where your life is sort

Laure Porché:

of like you're contemplating how to show up in your business where do you

Laure Porché:

put yourself and being seen, right.

Laure Porché:

There's something about that being seen and known , I think

Laure Porché:

there is always something about.

Laure Porché:

When we are sharing our work too, there is that whole, I don't want

Laure Porché:

to have to be the guru or very, very active thought in my mind all the time.

Laure Porché:

Yeah.

Laure Porché:

Careful with that.

Laure Porché:

Right.

Laure Porché:

For sure.

Laure Porché:

The expert or the guru.

Laure Porché:

Yeah.

Laure Porché:

How does that feel?

Laure Porché:

Like when I just reflect on that?

Laure Porché:

It feels very, it feels very good and, um, and relevant, um, in terms

Laure Porché:

of like other things that like other messages I'm getting through work that

Laure Porché:

I'm doing for myself and, um, that there's really kind of reassemble like

Laure Porché:

a reassembling of some parts of me that need to kind of sell together before

Laure Porché:

I go out and do something about it.

Laure Porché:

Um, But yeah, I do see like the there's, there's definitely something

Laure Porché:

about acknowledgement and it feels when I'm thinking about the dream.

Laure Porché:

Uh, very clear.

Laure Porché:

Like I always look at dreams in terms of like, those are all different parts of me.

Laure Porché:

But in this case it feels doubly clear.

Laure Porché:

And I also liked the idea of the dice and the chance and cause, cause in the

Laure Porché:

dream I'm thinking there's no way I'm going to, there's no way to catch that.

Laure Porché:

It has to fall in your lap.

Laure Porché:

And that's a little bit, the messages that I'm getting on terms of like, of

Laure Porché:

stop running around, trying to catch it, like it's gonna fall in your lap

Laure Porché:

and you just have to wait for it.

Laure Porché:

And, and I'm thinking also movie star, um, focusing so much on the two.

Laure Porché:

That's that's what I'm, you know, and ultimately the dream that's what I did.

Laure Porché:

I was like, this is stupid.

Laure Porché:

Like I'm just going to take, because you know, I'm missing what's happening

Laure Porché:

because I'm so focused on the damn chair.

Laure Porché:

And so that's something that I definitely could bring into my life.

Laure Porché:

Cause I, I spend a lot of mental energy about, you know, how and how and why.

Laure Porché:

Um, and maybe I should just do whatever and trust that will you know, that

Laure Porché:

it will come through whatever I do.

Laure Porché:

Yeah.

Laure Porché:

I, it feels like when I try on the dream, it feels like for me that the tape.

Laure Porché:

I love what your takeaway is, making that connection of maybe to

Laure Porché:

start focusing on all the chairs or the tools or the things, right.

Laure Porché:

It's like, oh, I can just sit down and listen, and, , I'll get when

Laure Porché:

it's my time, the day will come to me or I'll get what I need.

Laure Porché:

There's something about that.

Laure Porché:

And you'll be recognized, you know, you will be seen.

Laure Porché:

Wow.

Laure Porché:

That feels like a, a power piece to me of recognition.

Laure Porché:

So very cool.

Laure Porché:

And, and then, then just to bring it into the earth, is there anything that

Laure Porché:

you want to do in your life to honor the dream specifically or any action

Laure Porché:

that you might want to take around it?

Laure Porché:

Well, I kind of like that image of the dye.

Laure Porché:

Um, I might, I might work on it in textile.

Laure Porché:

Um, Um, cause I was thinking I could, I could embroider it on, I could do a

Laure Porché:

piece around it and now I'm thinking I could make like a 3d fabric dye, but

Laure Porché:

I wouldn't need like a gold fabric.

Laure Porché:

So I might need to get some old fabric now.

Laure Porché:

So when you say that and like, ah, I know, I guess I do a lot of textile.

Laure Porché:

I work around my dreams and that's also what I do with my

Laure Porché:

people in them in the past.

Laure Porché:

They've been doing that and they're like, oh my God, this is amazing.

Laure Porché:

Um, and so that's, yeah, that's, that's inspiring for me.

Laure Porché:

Like the golden Knights really strong.

Laure Porché:

It wasn't really strong.

Laure Porché:

And I imagined the dream.

Laure Porché:

Like I really have those kinds of symbolic objects in my dreams.

Laure Porché:

It's not.

Laure Porché:

So, um, and so it was like, wow.

Laure Porché:

It's cool when you get an actual symbolic object, like for sure.

Laure Porché:

And then the fact that you're an artist and you could then

Laure Porché:

do a representation of that.

Laure Porché:

And then that again, that takes that energy of the dream and brings

Laure Porché:

even more forward into your life and helps process what that is.

Laure Porché:

I don't know, it feels like a magical, higher self access key,

Laure Porché:

you know, ask any question if you're holding the golden dye, you know?

Laure Porché:

Yeah, exactly.

Laure Porché:

I want that on my alter, you know, Absolutely.

Laure Porché:

You want to bring it with you in classes?

Laure Porché:

Like wear it in a medicine pouch I don't know.

Laure Porché:

Giant, giant, golden.

Laure Porché:

We're going on a big chain.

Laure Porché:

I mean, I, like, I made a, felt heart with a, with a tree growing out of it,

Laure Porché:

um, before, when, before my first class with them in the bath as a, and it's

Laure Porché:

like a, it's an anchor, it's like a 3d object and it's, uh, it's definitely.

Laure Porché:

It's like a safety blanket.

Laure Porché:

And like I said, it's an anchor.

Laure Porché:

It's like an anchor to that, that energetic thing.

Laure Porché:

See that came through in your, in your dream.

Laure Porché:

It's really cool to have that.

Laure Porché:

I also paint and create from my dreams, almost exclusively.

Laure Porché:

Everything that I have made so far has been based on a dream

Laure Porché:

or a conscious dream journey.

Laure Porché:

But I find that that as a process, it's like, I don't

Laure Porché:

have any interest in painting.

Laure Porché:

Yeah, right.

Laure Porché:

I try to explore that actually and get into like more abstract art and stuff,

Laure Porché:

but, but I just love painting my dreams because I love the process of what

Laure Porché:

comes from that and creating something from the dream then like anchors that

Laure Porché:

energy or it furthers the, the learning and the growing it's interactive.

Laure Porché:

Yeah, it does.

Laure Porché:

It does further the process.

Laure Porché:

And I do, I make pieces from dreams and from, um, work that I do was with

Laure Porché:

fascinators and therapists for myself, like moments that I have in, in workshops

Laure Porché:

or sessions, um, to get an anchor, like things that come to me in those moments.

Laure Porché:

And also because as you make it.

Laure Porché:

Um, also when you work with textiles, it's very slow.

Laure Porché:

So it's like, it gives time to your soul to kind of digest the, you know,

Laure Porché:

the voice going up, but also as you make it, um, your subconscious shows

Laure Porché:

you things in how you were making it.

Laure Porché:

Yes, totally set a true central.

Laure Porché:

So, cool.

Laure Porché:

Well, thank you so much for sharing your dream.

Laure Porché:

I loved your dream

Laure Porché:

for mirroring it and trying it on.

Laure Porché:

Really appreciate it.

Laure Porché:

Well, thank you so much for being a part of this Laure.

Laure Porché:

I really appreciate you and what you're doing and what you're offering.

Laure Porché:

And definitely if you're listening to this and you are.

Laure Porché:

Interested in checking out her staff, then you should fully go to her website.

Laure Porché:

So my website is, uh, : themoonlitpath.space okay.

Laure Porché:

Okay.

Laure Porché:

Sweet.

Laure Porché:

And the Moonlight path is your 10 month program.

Laure Porché:

Awesome.

Laure Porché:

wll, definitely check that out and thank you so much for being here for having me.

Amanda Lux:

so to just sum up the reflection about her dream, I

Amanda Lux:

thought it was super interesting that she thought, that she was

Amanda Lux:

going to be heading into a trial.

Amanda Lux:

In the ether of her dream , she mentioned that she's been, , preparing

Amanda Lux:

to launch some programs online, putting yourself out there online or

Amanda Lux:

putting out a podcast takes a lot of effort you have to expose yourself.

Amanda Lux:

And especially for those of us who are in the healing arts, that can it can

Amanda Lux:

feel like you're heading into a trial.

Amanda Lux:

Lo and behold, it was this more like this guru sitting on a stage

Amanda Lux:

that, , had this golden die.

Amanda Lux:

And of course, when she first enters, she's not looking at the guru, she's

Amanda Lux:

looking at, where should she sit?

Amanda Lux:

Which she commented was very much like.

Amanda Lux:

Uh, constellation.

Amanda Lux:

Right?

Amanda Lux:

Where do you put yourself in the field?

Amanda Lux:

Where do you belong?

Amanda Lux:

Where are you in relationship to the guru on the stage or the, to the woman with the

Amanda Lux:

instruments, the artist, or the audience?

Amanda Lux:

So there's this element of, um, trying to figure out where to

Amanda Lux:

put yourself in relation to all these other players and roles.

Amanda Lux:

That you are playing in your own life.

Amanda Lux:

And that can be a distracting thing, right?

Amanda Lux:

We can actually spend a lot of time wandering around wondering what platform

Amanda Lux:

to put this on, or how much energy to put into Instagram and of course, with that,

Amanda Lux:

there's all these tools, shiny tools.

Amanda Lux:

You know, and we're playing a game of chance.

Amanda Lux:

Will we be heard?

Amanda Lux:

Will we, will we get recognized?

Amanda Lux:

Will we be witnessed while people see us for who we are?

Amanda Lux:

And do we have to be a guru?

Amanda Lux:

We don't want to be that, you know, so Laura even says, I

Amanda Lux:

don't want to be the cool.

Amanda Lux:

At the same time, you know, we want to catch that dye.

Amanda Lux:

There's this game of chance when you put yourself out there that you'll

Amanda Lux:

be discovered or you'll be witnessed, and there's a chance that you won't.

Amanda Lux:

And, you know, there's a lot of quote unquote shiny tools out there that, you

Amanda Lux:

know, are offering to elevate us to that guru status, but, you know, do the tools

Amanda Lux:

work in her dream, the tool disintegrated.

Amanda Lux:

And so the question is, is that I think.

Amanda Lux:

We don't need to worry about where we are sitting in the field of our life here.

Amanda Lux:

We don't need to worry about what platform or whether we're in a chair

Amanda Lux:

or on the floor against the wall.

Amanda Lux:

And we don't need the tool.

Amanda Lux:

Ultimately, we are all of these players.

Amanda Lux:

We are the guru.

Amanda Lux:

We are a higher selves.

Amanda Lux:

We are the, the artist and the witness.

Amanda Lux:

And ultimately I think her takeaway.

Amanda Lux:

She will be seen and that her work will get across to the people that,

Amanda Lux:

that need to catch it, you know?

Amanda Lux:

And, um, I just thought what a brilliant, brilliant dream, but a brilliant

Amanda Lux:

play of all of those different roles.

Amanda Lux:

And I certainly related to her dream in all of those ways.

Amanda Lux:

And I'm curious how you related to Laures dream I would love to know

Amanda Lux:

thank you so much for listening to the third episode of alone,

Amanda Lux:

Traveler's guide to the divine with our dream guests, LaurePorsche.

Amanda Lux:

Please check out the links to her offerings in the show notes I appreciate

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Amanda Lux:

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Amanda Lux:

And may this deepen your own inquiry and exploration of your night dreams, your

Amanda Lux:

energy and the waking dream of your life in the best and highest way possible.