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₿HS004: Overcoming the Fear of Overwhelm
Episode 412th October 2023 • Bitcoin Homeschoolers • Scott and Tali Lindberg
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Homeschooling is a commitment.  You are investing your precious time and attention for the long-term success and happiness of your children.  In this conversation, Tali and Scott deep dive the common fear of being overwhelmed.

IN THIS EPISODE, YOU'LL LEARN:

  • A common question from those considering homeschooling is how to not lose yourself
  • Homeschooling is not as hard as you might think
  • It’s okay if spouses don’t agree on all aspects (feature not a bug)
  • You have a lot of options, each with varying impacts on time for yourself
  • Just start … then adjust.  It’s a process you continually tweak.
  • You don’t need to have plan for entire K-12 experience.  Planning out a month or two in advance is fine.
  • Part-time private schools are one option
  • Co-ops offer additional benefit, the opportunity to share your passions
  • Extended family plans
  • Homeschooling play groups and field trips
  • Every homeschooling mom, no matter how devoted needs time to herself to recoup and regenerate
  • There are so many resources:  Mom’s groups, churches, online curriculum, etc.
  • Finding homeschooling groups and play groups in your area
  • Always do a tour before committing to a program
  • Consider attending homeschooling conventions
  • Homeschoolers are very much like Bitcoiners.  They're very, very friendly, open, and more than happy to share experience.
  • Stay flexible and know that it's going to be okay. Take one step at a time.

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Speaker:

Well welcome everybody.

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This is exciting.

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We were talking today in Nashville.

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We're visiting Bitcoin park.

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And it's really nice.

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It's a beautiful fall time of the year.

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And one of the things that's

interesting at Bitcoin park is.

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We're seeing people come with

their kids, really young kids.

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Um, infants and it's just inspiring.

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And it reminds us of what

we're doing with this podcast.

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. If you're new, the show husband

and wife team we're Bitcoiners.

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We spent 20 years

homeschooling our four kids.

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And the purpose of this, this podcast is

to share our stories or lessons learned

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and to share any resources we can.

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On self casting education.

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And today we're going to deep dive.

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Something that was a question or

maybe really, really a comment that

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was made to Talia at a recent event.

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So Tali, why don't you tell them?

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Yeah.

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I was talking to a young mom and

she knew that we were homeschoolers

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and she approached us and said, , I

would love to homeschool, but I'm

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afraid that if I choose to do that,

I'm going to lose myself completely.

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They get it.

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It.

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I mean, homeschooling is a.

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Huge undertaking.

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If you're choosing to do a full time.

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I think there is a

spectrum of homeschooling.

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You can do it even if your kids

are going to public school, but

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she was specifically referencing.

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If she were to dive in full time.

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Homeschooling her three kids.

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So today we want to just talk a little

bit about our thoughts on that question.

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A very valid question.

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And.

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Based on not only our personal

experience, but things that we have

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observed over the last two decades.

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We'll share with you and hope

that you will find it helpful.

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All right.

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Well, so.

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Tell us about this

conversation you had then.

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How did the, how did you answer her?

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And we would start there.

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Well, I, I acknowledged her

concern because it is really

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easy when you start as mothers.

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You start to put your

children's needs and wants and.

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Um, Basically, well, just

needs a ones above your own.

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And if you, on top of being a young

mom, And chasing after your kids and

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trying to take care of the house and.

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Grocery shop and make the healthiest

food choices that you can.

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Oh, that's seven.

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And on top of that, having to think

about schooling, your kids, it

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does sound very, very overwhelming.

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And truthfully it is going to

take a lot of mental energy.

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But it does.

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It's not necessarily as hard as you

think it might be because today there

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are so many resources out there.

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Making homeschooling, you have very, very

flexible, very, um, What's it called?

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Not the opposite of one size fits all.

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Personal, it can be.

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It can be very, very

approached, personalized.

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You can, you can tailor, you

can tailor your homeschooling

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according to your resources in time.

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And money and energy and still do a

fabulous job, uh, far superior to.

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What a public school can do.

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Yeah.

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So in my mind, , I see

kind of three steps.

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The first step that I recall is you.

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You need to, you need to have

alignment with your partner.

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On what you're trying to do.

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So you need to.

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At least have a conversation

about what it is, what are those.

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Homeschooling is proof of work.

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You're going to invest your energy.

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That's what you're, you're

making a decision to do.

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But you need to have that

and it's okay to disagree.

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Like don't, I don't think.

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That has to be 100%.

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I think it's actually

a feature, not a bug.

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Uh, for parents too, to work things out.

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And the second thing is.

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Take a, uh, Take a look at what

your options are, because as you

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just said, it's very personal.

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You can do anything from look, we're going

to put them in the public school system.

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We're just going to teach them at

night and on weekends with our,

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with extra stuff, it could be.

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Uh, private school.

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It could be one of these schools

that does does one or two days of.

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A week.

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It could be dropping them

off at a family member.

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You have a lot of options.

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Two.

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To decide.

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How much time you need for yourself.

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So if this person that came to you

is worried about losing herself.

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And being overwhelmed.

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To me, there's this whole second step

of like, you have this menu of options.

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And then the third step is.

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You start, you, you commit to it.

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You start it.

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And then, you know, you can adjust.

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This is not, Hey, I made a decision

and we have to stay this way forever.

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You go on.

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And you learn.

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So the first thing is

you, you get aligned.

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Second thing is you.

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You look at your options.

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And the third thing is you.

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You test them out and, and then

if you say, I want to go deeper on

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this, I want to spend more time.

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Okay.

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Fine.

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You.

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Go more to you.

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Get you get more involved.

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If you say I am feeling overwhelmed.

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I do feel like I'm losing myself.

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You say.

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Let me look at those options.

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That gives me more time.

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You have.

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You have a lot of.

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Opportunity.

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To adjust you don't

you're not locked into it.

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Forever.

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You know, that's, that's kind of

like, that's what I see is the

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kind of from a process standpoint.

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Of what it looks like.

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Well, a lot of homeschooling

families would do this.

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So they start praying.

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If you're a praying kind of person,

they start praying about the school.

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Year over the summer and they make

a decision for that school year.

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And they summer, they try it for

a year and then they always then.

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Pray about the following year.

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So they take it really

one school year at a time.

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It is, it seems so

overwhelming to think K to 12.

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Oh my God.

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I gotta have, I gotta have

this whole long-term plan.

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You don't, you're really planning

about nine months at a time.

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So for example, one year.

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Uh, for our youngest, he was

eight years old at the time.

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And we up until then had been primarily

doing all of the subjects ourselves.

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And I decided if for.

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For, um, just for the

sake of making friends.

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There are his own age.

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Cause he tended to be he's our youngest.

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He's going to, to.

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To be exposed to older kids

through his siblings activity.

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So for his own sake, I wanted to

put him in a situation where he

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was exposed to other homeschoolers.

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He's all age.

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And I was already running around.

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All the all different places

because of the older siblings.

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And I just felt like I wanted to

give him something that was his own.

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And with kids his own age,

Within the social parameter of

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other homeschooling families.

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So I put him in a, what I will call it

a private, a part-time private school.

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So there's two days a week.

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It covered all the subjects.

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It was Tuesday, Thursday,

and then Monday was a Friday.

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He had homework to do, and I

just supervised his homework.

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But Tuesday, Thursday, it

was a drop off situation.

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Right.

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So he was there for, uh, I think

he, we dropped him off at nine

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and we picked him up at three.

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So about six hours included laundry

size and all the different subjects.

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I recovered.

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So he was there for one year and

every day I, when I picked him up,

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we will go over his day as a whole.

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What did you learn?

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Who did you hang out with?

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How was it?

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What was it like with your

friends on the playground?

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What was your teacher like?

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And then of course, I was also

just, uh, overseeing his projects

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and his homework and things.

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And towards the end of the year, actually,

like, it wasn't even towards the end of

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the year, it was halfway through the year

and the school was already preparing to

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do registration for the following year.

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I had to sit down with

my then eight year old.

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Uh, sun and Isaiah, what do you

think, is this something that

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you would like to continue with?

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Are you making.

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Friends.

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And do you feel good there?

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And he said, I don't like it there because

you've put me in a room full of babies.

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And I said, they're not babies.

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They're your age.

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And some of them are older, but

he's so used to being exposed to.

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His oldest siblings and his

older siblings, friends.

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That he felt uncomfortable

there and together we made the

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decision to not continue, but he

had that the nine months there.

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So it's a, it's a process that

you can continue to tweak as you,

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your life circumstances, change.

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And.

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In that case, if he was my oldest, right.

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If I yell, if he had younger

siblings and he was my oldest.

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I could have done the same thing.

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I could have dropped him off Tuesday,

Thursday, and then just knew that

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all the subjects were covered and

then just had to help him with

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homework Monday, Wednesday, Friday.

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And that would give me free time

to take care of the younger kids.

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So this situation could be reversed

in that case, it would work for.

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The family, according to what their need.

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Gotcha.

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So two things come to mind.

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One is that.

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There's other things we can go down and.

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The list of options to choose and what

we either witnessed, or you, you tried.

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And then the other thing is, are we.

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We are answering the question of

what this person asked you in that.

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So did that help you?

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Or would that help the

person who's worried about?

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Being overwhelmed and not, or

didn't want to lose themselves.

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Yes.

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In this case for that particular

family who was asking me this question.

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Her kids were, um, I think

kindergarten and younger.

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And she was pregnant

in the first semester.

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Uh, first trimester.

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So in her case, if she wanted to

go that route, She had a newborn,

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assuming, uh, when, when she

decides you there's the baby's born.

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She has a newborn and then she

has a five-year-old I think it

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might've been a three-year-old.

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Five-year-old three-year-old and a

newborn, then she could have dropped off.

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The failure and the three-year-old

every Tuesday, Thursday, and new that

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a Monday, Wednesday, Friday, she didn't

have to worry about coming up with

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curriculum or coming up with material.

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All she had to do was to supervise

and the rest of the time they can

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just enjoy today and just know

the schooling is taken care of.

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Okay.

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So in that case was she

necessarily lose herself.

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I would say no, as long as the tuition

is something that you can manage.

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And you're okay with them going

into a traditional classrooms

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situation because that's, you

always make a pros and cons list.

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Right?

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So in the case of the example that

I'm giving, which is a part-time.

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Private school situation where

you, you drop off part of the week.

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They are sitting in a traditional

classroom and they, it is a lecture

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lecture based teaching style.

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They, it is texts textbook based.

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So if you don't mind that, then

this is a really great option.

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Okay.

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Cool.

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All right.

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So let's what we'll do is we'll just go

through the list of different options.

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And then we'll just try to come back

to the original question and see

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where we're at rates on the scale.

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So the next one.

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Co-ops and maybe explain

what, what co-ops are.

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And then, and then we tie it

back to the same question of how

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does it help or not help with.

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Your time to yourself

to not lose yourself.

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Yeah, so you can join a homeschool at

co-op and a co-op usually is once a week

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and it's PA it's families coming together.

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So it's not, definitely

not a drop off situation.

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Families come together, parents either.

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Volunteer, uh, as just admin people or

they've volunteered to teach, or they

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volunteer to watch the younger kids who

are not old enough to go into a classroom.

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Then the parents who teach,

they teach based on their own

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interests and backgrounds.

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So you're not going to necessarily

get the academic exposure there

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because you don't from one.

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Year to another.

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You're not sure what

classes would be available.

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Right.

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It would be like one pair and

maybe really loves knitting.

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So she provides a knitting class.

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One parent maybe is really great at math.

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And so he does a math games class.

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One parent may be really

good at cooking or gardening.

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So they do a gardening class.

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So it's more like electives, mostly what

I have seen in homeschooling co-ops.

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The classes are offered by the parents

are mostly more like electives.

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So you're still going to have to teach the

core math and English at home yourself.

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Uh, less there's a parent in the co-op

specifically offering something for that.

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But the benefit of it is the

whole family is together.

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When you have, when

lunchtime comes around.

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All the families are sitting together.

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The kids are playing.

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It's a very family oriented thing, but you

don't get free time in terms of walking

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away, but you do get the friendship

with other homeschooling moms and dads.

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Well, I, I would say the other thing

in context of not losing yourself,

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what you do get is you could

volunteer to teach something you like.

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So if your hobby is ceramics or

painting or whatever your hobby is.

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You volunteered to teach your subject.

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And so now instead of losing.

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You time.

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On something that is part of who you are.

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You actually get to share

that with other other people.

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And while you're doing that, it's sort

of like specialization in a free market.

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You're going to specialize in your area.

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You're really good at.

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Uh, just take a painting.

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If that was your hobby.

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Or maybe it's photography or programming.

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Maybe you can get into

robotics with your kids.

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It doesn't matter.

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Whatever your subject is

that you like to teach about?

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Do you like to spend time on you?

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Go spend time.

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It could be sports too.

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The kids could go play.

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You really like sports.

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So you teach your kids,

flag football or something.

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Kickball the little square game

with the bonk downs, whatever it is.

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And it gives you a little bit of time

to focus on what you like while somebody

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else is going deep on something they like.

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So.

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Maybe you speak Chinese

and you can speak Chinese.

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So that persons over teaching a language

and someone else is doing chemistry.

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So to me, Co-ops.

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You're still spending time, but I

think the benefit on the question

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of how not to lose yourself is.

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You, you also get this, this

opportunity to be who you are and yeah.

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And you can share your passion, which

is, uh, which is a beautiful thing

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in and of itself because yeah, we're

all looking for people who share.

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Our hobby and passion and common interest.

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And you get to teach that

to the younger generation.

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And I think that can be

NSL, very fulfilling.

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And another pro about doing the

homeschooling co-op is your kids are

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also learning from other people who

are passionate about this subject.

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Versus going to a school, maybe

being taught by a teacher who is

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forced to teach something that

they literally have no interest in.

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All right, let's go to the next one.

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The list.

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And this one you may not be able

to do all the time, depending on.

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If you have extended family nearby.

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So we may have to use an example

of what else you've witnessed,

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but the next one on the list is.

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Time with family.

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So for example, you, every

whatever day is the day that

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someone's going to be with grandma.

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That kind of thing.

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I don't think we'll call it this.

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That like an extended family.

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Plan.

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That's the next, that's the next one?

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Yeah, so.

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I knew a family where the grandparents

were really active in the children's

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lives and they would have grandma days.

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And, um, the Gramma day, literally

the mom would drop off the kids, our

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grandma's house, and then she'll have

the day to herself, whether she wanted

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to pursue something that she's interested

in, or just have a quiet house to do

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what she needs to do around the house.

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So that's another way if you wanted

to just school full time yourself,

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but just have one day free to take

care of other things, to still have

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your own space, your own mental space.

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That would really work.

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If you don't have.

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Parents are nearby, or if you don't

have that kind of relationship.

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Or opportunity then perhaps you can, um,

partner with another homeschooling family

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because everybody really needs that.

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Every homeschooling mom, no

matter how devoted needs time.

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To herself to recoup and regenerate.

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We recharge.

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And so if you join a homeschooling

co-op of any kind, or if you join.

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Um, they're always homeschooling

playgroups, especially

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if your kids are young.

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Homeschooling playgroups is a

very, very big thing and they take

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a lots of field trips together.

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You'll get to know other families

and hopefully you make a couple

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close friends and then you can

partner up and share time off.

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You know, and, and that could really,

that can really alleviate that feeling of

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heavy burden when you're homeschooling.

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And you're you feel like you

have to be on all the time.

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Right.

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But playgroups are very, very big thing.

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Moms groups, you can find them everywhere

if you're a part of a church, for sure.

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They have connections to the moms groups.

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There's.

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If you even just Google mom group

in your area, um, they're not

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necessarily necessarily going to

also be homeschooling moms, but.

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. You never know what people are able to.

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Work together to create.

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Okay.

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Then I did.

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Just two more quick and

then we can get into the.

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Where do you start to find

out for your own area?

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Um, on one end of the spectrum.

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And the furthest end might be,

uh, you max out how much time

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somebody else is doing it.

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Like some places you can go.

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And there you're called

homeschoolers, but.

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Like they're basically gone.

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Most of them.

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Yeah.

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Time let's cover that one.

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First.

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I was going to call it a

hundred percent private, but

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that's not really what that is.

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Let's what do you call the most extreme?

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Keys.

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Where.

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You're still homeschooling, but you're

spending the least amount of time.

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Actually doing the schooling.

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Well, you.

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Uh, okay.

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So that's a little bit different from

physical separation, like your ability

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to drop them off and not be worried about

them in that other people are responsible

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for your child during that time.

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And you're completely freed.

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Freed up to do other things,

but if you're, if you're not

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talking about physical separation,

you're just talking about.

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Delegating the task of teaching.

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You can buy these

curriculums either online.

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Where they say, it's almost like

what they did during coven, which is

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all the, all the classes are online.

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You sign them up and they

sign into a life teacher.

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They get taught and they

do their homework and they.

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They get feedback from the teacher.

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They take tests where the

teacher and you're literally just

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providing space in a computer.

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Right.

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And maybe a little bit of supervision.

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Most of the time the kids would be home.

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But you are not responsible for the

teaching of a, you just choose the

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classes that you want them to to learn.

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That's the most extreme, like hands off

thing where you're just not part of that.

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All.

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So my point in bringing that up is that.

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There are some parents who

say they are homeschoolers.

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If you asked them that

those other homeschoolers.

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But they have tried to

outsource to the max.

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Yeah, they don't teach at all.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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Then.

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Then you have the other side

of spectrum, which is the last

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one I wanted to talk about.

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And that was where you just, this

is your you've decided this is

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your passion and your, you actually

want it to be a hundred percent.

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Right.

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So maybe we talk about.

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The other end of the spectrum.

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You have people who.

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Enjoy it so much.

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They, they want to go deep on

everything and be involved with

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literally teaching everything.

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So if they're teaching everything, how

do they still keep a part of themselves?

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Well, I think it's almost, it

almost is it answers itself.

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You've already decided that what

makes you happy is the teaching.

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So you are doing what you like.

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And that sense, right?

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Yeah.

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Um, I just bring it up as it, on

the spectrum of options available.

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That some people will go to the,

go to the other side of this.

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And they enjoy it.

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Like they actually choose to

make the, they say I have a

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choice that I want to make.

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I want to, I want to take on

that level of responsibility.

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Okay.

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So if you.

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The method that I think that comes to mind

is Charlotte Mason, which is a very, very

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hands-on you're involved in everything.

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You prepare the curriculum.

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You gathered the books.

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You do everything.

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And in those cases for.

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I mean, that's basically

what I did in the beginning.

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And it is very overwhelming because

while you're teaching the kids, you are

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thinking about what to cook for dinner.

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And while you're eating dinner, you

thinking about what lesson plan to

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prepare for the next day kind of thing.

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So it is, it can be very overwhelming

and those cases, I will just say on the

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weekend, Um, just make sure that your

partner or your friends or your family

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can give you a couple of ours off just to.

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Have yourself a day.

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Just to recharge any way that you want.

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If that means you go to the gym.

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If he goes in the sauna, if you.

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They'll take a walk outside though.

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In those cases, I think you just need

to have very deliberate agreements

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and it doesn't even have to be

some large chunk of time either.

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It can just be a short,

like, okay, for the next 45

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minutes, I'm taking a walk and.

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I'm by myself and it's okay for the

kids to watch blue, not blues clues.

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So you can't watch that now.

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It's a weird, it's like woke now.

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Um, to watch something educational

while you with dad or grandma,

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and then you go off for a walk

and I think that's okay too.

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Yeah.

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All right.

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So those are five general buckets.

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You can.

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Make up your own and mix mix any way.

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Let's let's I think the next

question that would be on my mind.

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So I'm imagining this, this person.

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I didn't talk to her, but.

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She's she wants to, if she asked

you, how do I not lose myself?

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I think this might be overwhelming.

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You said here's here's here are these

different examples of buckets of options.

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We just went through.

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And the next question

would be well in my area.

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How do I start?

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Like we're so let's maybe let's cover.

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Two or three recommendations on.

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If you're, if you're that person.

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And you now know, okay, I've got these

options, but how do I figure out what

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program is actually available near me?

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The best place to go for a homeschooler

is going to be the Facebook.

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So go into Facebook type in

homeschool and type in your city name.

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If you are not in a big city, then you

might have to use Google and, and do a

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dig a little deeper, but honestly, any

homeschooling group that that's active.

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Close to your area, even if

it's not right in your area.

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There will be people there

who can direct you, different

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places, different resources.

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If you go in there and ask.

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Just say, can, will you please

direct me to a homeschool?

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Co-op understand that that is going to

be that sort of the elective classes

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that you can go and network with.

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Networking connect with other

homeschooling families as units.

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If you ask about a

drop-off kind of program.

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I'm not sure there's a specific term

for, I've heard it all different ways,

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but you might just, it might just

be some kind of homeschool academy

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or homeschool Christian academy or.

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Then you're going to have to ask.

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Specifically in your area, but there

they will be drop-off situations.

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And I personally call it part-time

private school, but homeschoolers might

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be offended if you set that, but just

say like some kind of drop off program.

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And they should be able to direct you.

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To what's available in your area.

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Right?

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But the way.

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I'll in my mind.

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What I hear is you're saying.

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Go talk to them in person though.

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Right?

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Go out.

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You know, you find them on

Facebook, but go talk to them.

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Right and find out what they are

before you just, you're not gonna

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just like sign up for something.

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No, you always do a tour first.

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Always, no matter what you do, you can,

the co-ops will give you yours for.

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The, um, something like

classical conversation, which is.

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Combination co-op N private school.

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Um, part-time private school.

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Like they would, there's always gonna be

somebody who's willing to give you a tour.

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And you can observe first before making

a decision, but if your kids are very

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young star with just a playgroup,

That's the best place to go and

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make connections and ask questions.

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Okay.

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So then you have.

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You mentioned Facebook.

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So you're finding them online.

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Go and talk to them.

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You also have.

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You mentioned churches.

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So.

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There are a lot of churches where.

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They're there.

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There's a big homeschooling

community within.

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Whatever.

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Denomination that is.

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It's very popular in churches.

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Yeah.

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So that's the second one.

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I guess you'd go to meetups.

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You can go to a Bitcoin meetup and

it's probably less likely you're going

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to find someone who's already doing.

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Um, And you're the only

other, other options.

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The other thing I thought of that I did

not know about when our kids were young.

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Was there are actually conventions.

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Oh, yeah.

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Yes.

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Yes, absolutely homeschool conventions.

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There are many, many, many of them.

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It starts, they start in the late spring

and go all the way into early fall.

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And they differ by.

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Um, the approaches.

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So maybe we'll do an episode on just the

different approaches of homeschooling.

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So they can take different.

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Can't understand the difference

because you have the Charlotte Mason,

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people who do their conventions,

you have the Costco conversation.

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People will do the conventions.

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You have, um, Christian

homeschool conventions.

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And I know that there are

secular homeschool conventions.

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A lot of conventions, a lot of

them that a lot of conventions.

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Yeah.

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And also, I just want to say.

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Homeschoolers are very

much like Bitcoiners.

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They're very, very friendly

and they are, everybody's more

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than happy to share experience.

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And, um, they're very open.

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They're open people.

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So.

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Gotcha.

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Okay.

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So.

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Again, this is all inspired by

a question that was, and this

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question's come up in different ways.

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The same type of questions come up

to you multiple times is how do you.

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Not be overwhelmed.

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How do you keep yourself?

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I think one of the,

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one of the more extreme version

of that question or statement is,

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oh, I can't possibly homeschool.

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I'm going to kill my children.

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And.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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That you don't want to get

to, you don't get that far.

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Um, alone, but I mean, kids are,

that's part of, to me, the joy of

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parenting is you're, you're going to

learn a lot about yourself because

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you're, you're going to be in this.

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You're going to be.

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Uh, pushed in ways you didn't

know you could be, be pushed,

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but I, I think that's a good.

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A good thing.

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And again, from my point of view,

We're just saying, listen, where

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we homeschooled for 20 years.

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We understand the Bitcoin point of view.

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Here are some of the stories and

ideas to help and resources to help.

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And other people.

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So I think we've.

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Hopefully we've covered that.

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And then I guess the, I would

leave it as we're pretty open.

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If, if somebody.

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Doesn't feel comfortable or still is

it still has something that they're

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questioning on that reach out to us?

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If we didn't answer that question?

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Well, enough.

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Reach out to Tali or myself

on Twitter or our email or the

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website, whatever, whatever way

you're comfortable reaching out.

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And we're happy to help try to.

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Try to get you through the process

of thinking through or how to reach

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out and see what the options are.

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So that's, that's all I had on

the list for days or anything at

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any other final thoughts that you

had Tali for before we wrap up?

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I just want to say that it is,

is, seems really overwhelming, but

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it is very doable because it is.

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Like I mentioned earlier.

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It's not something where

it's such a giant project.

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You have to plan many years ahead.

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You can plan a few months at a time.

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And you can continue to

adjust because you don't know.

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What your true capacity is

for these kinds of challenges.

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Uh, in homeschooling until

you're in the thick of it.

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And then maybe you realize that

you can actually tolerate a lot

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more than you realized, or you

can tell me less, but either way.

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Once you find out where your limit is,

you start to look for solutions like

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working with your family and friends for

time off or looking for these part-time

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private school situation where you.

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Get a few days off because

that's why you need.

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And, you know, don't feel guilty.

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It's completely fine.

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Homeschooling is going to be.

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A pause.

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Kind of, yeah, it's constant

adjustment and kind of things.

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So don't feel bad either

way, stay flexible and know

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that it's going to be okay.

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One step in front of the other.

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Yeah.

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That's really good advice.

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You're going to be okay.

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Your kids are going to be okay.

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And we didn't, at least I didn't

have the confidence to start.

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We just needed to get moving.

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And then later on, after you've

looked back, you'd be like, oh

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yeah, I'm capable of doing that.

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I can do that.

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I need you.

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You realize you actually, you

already have what you need to do

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this, but you don't start with that.

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You, you feel overwhelmed maybe.

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But, um, But yeah, you, you,

you're going to be fine.

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I think that's great advice.

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All right, everybody.

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Well, we'll we, uh, we're doing

this to try to help folks.

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If people have questions you want us to,

to address, let us know what they are.

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And we'll catch you next week.

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Bye have a good week.

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