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Episode 34: Children Acting with Marc Tumminelli
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The Queens welcome their first GUEST OF HONOR on the show: Marc Tumminelli! Marc is the founder of NYC's premiere young artist training program, Broadway Workshop. With Marc's expertise, they rate and review a One Star Yelp Review for LA's Barbizon Modeling and Acting School, before Marc shares a review he personally received for his company, Broadway Workshop, and discusses its impact. Trey wants six more inches, Marc needs Quip to get a grip, Chelsey plays Jenga with her popups, Elliott Gould owes us all an explanation, shout out to Nadia, and AS IF!

(02:13) Guest of Honor!

(13:16) Lodge a Complaint!

(19:28) Barbizon Modeling & Acting School Review 

(37:37) Exclusive Offer

(38:38) Broadway Workshop Review

(49:34) Queens with Questions

(52:45) My Royal Highness

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VOICEOVER:

[Theme Song]

Chelsey Donn:

Hello.

Trey Gerrald:

Hi everyone.

Trey Gerrald:

Welcome to Review That.

Trey Gerrald:

Review the podcast dedicated to reviewing...

Chelsey Donn:

Reviews!

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We're just like Siskel and Ebert only instead of reviewing cinematic, masterpieces, we

Trey Gerrald:

that's Chelsey Donn,

Chelsey Donn:

and that's @TreyGerrald.

Trey Gerrald:

and together we are.

VOICEOVER:

The Review Queens

Trey Gerrald:

And if you want to support the show while getting bonus and exclusive content,

Chelsey Donn:

Oh Oh, my God, so much content.

Chelsey Donn:

And we are so excited today.

Chelsey Donn:

You guys, I like I can barely contain myself.

Chelsey Donn:

Okay.

Chelsey Donn:

Cause we have a very, very special

VOICEOVER:

Guest of honor.

Trey Gerrald:

OMG!

Chelsey Donn:

It's it's Like Disneyland, you guys.

Chelsey Donn:

Oh my God.

Chelsey Donn:

So exciting

Trey Gerrald:

Alright.

Trey Gerrald:

So every so often we like to invite a special guest of honor on to share some

Chelsey Donn:

with our experience in their field, we have them Dawn, their Review Queen

Trey Gerrald:

And today we have got the renowned

Chelsey Donn:

Oh My God.

Trey Gerrald:

legendary talents of Mr.

Trey Gerrald:

Marc Tumminelli.

Trey Gerrald:

Woo.

Trey Gerrald:

Hi Marc!

Marc Tumminelli:

Wow!

Marc Tumminelli:

Hi!

Marc Tumminelli:

Hi Trey.

Marc Tumminelli:

Hi Chelsey.

Marc Tumminelli:

Thank you for having me.

Chelsey Donn:

Oh, my God.

Chelsey Donn:

It our honor.

Chelsey Donn:

It is honor.

Marc Tumminelli:

I am particularly raspy today.

Trey Gerrald:

Ooh.

Marc Tumminelli:

enjoy.

Chelsey Donn:

Yay, me too,

Trey Gerrald:

You know, I'm feeling a little postnasal Adelaide.

Trey Gerrald:

Alright.

Trey Gerrald:

Let me tell you bit about Marc Tumminelli.

Trey Gerrald:

Marc is the founder of Broadway Workshop, New York's top training program for young artists.

Marc Tumminelli:

say

Trey Gerrald:

Yeah, I would too.

Trey Gerrald:

In fact, I just did.

Trey Gerrald:

Marc is also considered one of the top acting coaches in New York with over 60 of

Trey Gerrald:

Marc also serves as an onset acting coach for Walt Disney pictures.

Trey Gerrald:

Excuse me.

Chelsey Donn:

What?

Trey Gerrald:

Additionally, Marc has become one of the go tos to adapt musicals for their licensable

Chelsey Donn:

my God.

Marc Tumminelli:

...Oh I love 'Goodest Boy, Max.' That's very sweet.

Marc Tumminelli:

Well, Trey, you know, I love you and Chelsey, I feel like we're old friends,

Chelsey Donn:

I feel the same way.

Marc Tumminelli:

I listen to you guys every week.

Marc Tumminelli:

It's so great to be here!

Chelsey Donn:

Marc Tumminelli.

Chelsey Donn:

We are so excited to have you here today.

Chelsey Donn:

I mean, I didn't know that you adapted musicals for the shorter, like school versions.

Chelsey Donn:

That's so cool.

Chelsey Donn:

So does that mean like when I was at camp and I was doing Guys and Dolls,

Marc Tumminelli:

yes.

Marc Tumminelli:

In short!

Chelsey Donn:

my How cool is that?

Marc Tumminelli:

basically I just look at the show and be like, this song sucks we and get rid it.

Chelsey Donn:

I always just love when they're doing like Rent for kids or something, you know?

Chelsey Donn:

Like what do we

Chelsey Donn:

do?

Marc Tumminelli:

Yeah.

Marc Tumminelli:

I haven't worked on, well, that one I didn't do, but, um,

Chelsey Donn:

I know.

Marc Tumminelli:

They two things out of it.

Marc Tumminelli:

They

Chelsey Donn:

Oh my goodness.

Marc Tumminelli:

They don't get bronchitis instead of HIV.

Chelsey Donn:

Right, right.

Marc Tumminelli:

the high school versions are very tame, but these middle school, junior,

Marc Tumminelli:

They're just like these kind of fun, easy to put together hour long

Marc Tumminelli:

one of my favorite things I get to do.

Marc Tumminelli:

So thanks for bringing it up.

Trey Gerrald:

I've had the privilege of seeing many of the presentations that Marc has worked on

Chelsey Donn:

Oh yeah.

Trey Gerrald:

the requirements vary.

Trey Gerrald:

Sometimes there'll be trimming songs here and there.

Trey Gerrald:

And sometimes it's actually like doing a lot of script doctoring.

Trey Gerrald:

Right?

Marc Tumminelli:

Yeah, I do a lot of rewriting.

Marc Tumminelli:

It depends.

Marc Tumminelli:

What the project is sometimes it's just very easy cuts, spamalot was the world's

Marc Tumminelli:

So you can just cut a full vignette or rewrite a slight joke.

Marc Tumminelli:

But you know, other shows like We Will Rock You get really tricky to cut.

Marc Tumminelli:

Curtains the musical was the hardest one I've ever done.

Marc Tumminelli:

Cause

Chelsey Donn:

Wow.

Marc Tumminelli:

like a murder going on.

Marc Tumminelli:

So as soon as you get rid of a character, the whole thing falls apart, but

Chelsey Donn:

That's amazing.

Trey Gerrald:

Can you share a little bit about your company Broadway Workshop?

Marc Tumminelli:

Yeah, I founded Broadway Workshop in, um, 2007, right before

Chelsey Donn:

time.

Marc Tumminelli:

and we, uh, it was a great time to start a small business and actually it was

Marc Tumminelli:

because no one was expecting anything

Chelsey Donn:

Yes.

Marc Tumminelli:

but, uh, basically we do classes, workshops, camps, and productions

Marc Tumminelli:

But since COVID, we have moved to everything virtually.

Marc Tumminelli:

So not only are we doing classes and things in the studio, we also offer tons of zoom workshops with

Marc Tumminelli:

And it just gives kids with an elevated interest in the performing arts, an opportunity

Marc Tumminelli:

Where we can kick your butt a little bit, get you to the next level.

Marc Tumminelli:

But we also remember that this is your after-school activity, and there are kids that

Marc Tumminelli:

And so it's about finding this perfect balance between those two things.

Marc Tumminelli:

I think we have really found that with, the kids that are attracted to Broadway Workshop and I'm

Chelsey Donn:

Oh, my God.

Chelsey Donn:

That's amazing.

Chelsey Donn:

When you're first starting, like how do you feel like you started to grow an audience

Chelsey Donn:

Cause that's such a like ambitious thing to do,

Marc Tumminelli:

well, honestly, that is the work that never stops because every year I have

Marc Tumminelli:

So I'm never, it's not like, oh, we've developed this product and we could just keep doing it.

Chelsey Donn:

right.

Marc Tumminelli:

are constantly having to engage new kids.

Marc Tumminelli:

And when I started, it was all word of mouth and it continues really to be, but one parent

Marc Tumminelli:

do probably workshop instead.

Marc Tumminelli:

that is how it really grows.

Marc Tumminelli:

and then, you know, it's like some Facebook and Instagram Marketing and that continues to be the

Chelsey Donn:

Yeah.

Marc Tumminelli:

And it's not ever money because I can certainly produce things cheaper.

Marc Tumminelli:

I can get teachers who might have a lower rate,

Chelsey Donn:

Sure.

Marc Tumminelli:

But aren't as good.

Marc Tumminelli:

and so everything is always a bit about creating the best possible product and

Marc Tumminelli:

And I think that is what you all are doing over at Review That Review, because I

Marc Tumminelli:

Thank

Chelsey Donn:

you.

Marc Tumminelli:

beautifully marketed and your episodes are so good.

Marc Tumminelli:

you're just building the thing.

Marc Tumminelli:

You're just pushing the wheel up the hill every week, a little more and more so

Chelsey Donn:

Yeah.

Chelsey Donn:

I mean, I think thank you.

Chelsey Donn:

You're so sweet to turn, like, what was basically like a kvell about you into a compliment

Chelsey Donn:

And I

Chelsey Donn:

think I oh, but I think you're talking about like the passion of it.

Chelsey Donn:

Like that's, what's so exciting.

Chelsey Donn:

Like obviously you're very passionate with helping these kids and I think

Marc Tumminelli:

for

Marc Tumminelli:

sure.

Trey Gerrald:

mentioned the power of the word of mouth,

Marc Tumminelli:

Yeah.

Trey Gerrald:

is what we are so obsessed with over here.

Trey Gerrald:

Personally, Marc, how impacted are you in your decision-making by online reviews?

Marc Tumminelli:

my God.

Marc Tumminelli:

I am a Review!

Marc Tumminelli:

reader.

Marc Tumminelli:

If I am buying anything over the price of $50,

Chelsey Donn:

Yes.

Marc Tumminelli:

reading like 10 different reviews.

Marc Tumminelli:

I'm a researcher.

Marc Tumminelli:

It took me like two months to buy a mattress I needed to read every review.

Marc Tumminelli:

I needed to go sit on every, but I can't trust Raymour and Flanigan because a

Chelsey Donn:

Exactly.

Marc Tumminelli:

example.

Marc Tumminelli:

Like

Chelsey Donn:

Yeah.

Marc Tumminelli:

it fresh out the box.

Chelsey Donn:

yeah,

Marc Tumminelli:

yeah, I'm a Review!

Marc Tumminelli:

person for bigger purchases.

Marc Tumminelli:

I

Chelsey Donn:

uh, so gray.

Trey Gerrald:

uh, listeners will remember that our Splash at the Boathouse Review!

Trey Gerrald:

was actually curated by Marc Tumminelli.

Chelsey Donn:

Oh my God.

Chelsey Donn:

That that's right.

Chelsey Donn:

I love that Review.

Chelsey Donn:

That was such a good review because it was the perfect example of how these lower

Chelsey Donn:

reviews can't!'.

Chelsey Donn:

Well, yeah, but also yeah, as that, but also like how, not every one star review that's really

Marc Tumminelli:

well, you got to look at many reviews because you have to

Marc Tumminelli:

So it's like, I do a lot of restaurants.

Marc Tumminelli:

I will say.

Marc Tumminelli:

I look at a lot of restaurant reviews.

Chelsey Donn:

Yeah.

Chelsey Donn:

Do you ever like, worry about that?

Chelsey Donn:

Like being in the public eye, like, like, oh, people can just write a review about me like that.

Chelsey Donn:

Do you ever think about it?

Marc Tumminelli:

do.

Marc Tumminelli:

I do think about it quite a bit.

Marc Tumminelli:

So if I'm having like about with a parent about something

Chelsey Donn:

Yeah.

Marc Tumminelli:

refund or something that I know, and I'm a very ethical person.

Marc Tumminelli:

So if I, if I do say so myself, but if I'm like, no, you're not getting, you just didn't show up

Marc Tumminelli:

I'm not refunding you.

Marc Tumminelli:

Like

Chelsey Donn:

Right.

Marc Tumminelli:

that space to another,

Chelsey Donn:

Okay.

Marc Tumminelli:

but it's sometimes it's like, true.

Marc Tumminelli:

The squeaky wheel gets the grease.

Marc Tumminelli:

It's like sometimes easier just to be like, I don't want to deal with you.

Chelsey Donn:

Yeah.

Marc Tumminelli:

you to go to and write a negative review.

Marc Tumminelli:

Just easier to like, just let's walk away from this, which kind of sucks for the parents who

Marc Tumminelli:

And sometimes the same thing it's like, I miss the classes are mistake.

Marc Tumminelli:

Let's figure out what we can do here.

Chelsey Donn:

Right, right.

Marc Tumminelli:

I will say that sometimes it just makes the most sense.

Marc Tumminelli:

I've worked in customer service, for very big ticketing company.

Marc Tumminelli:

you know, I dealt with a lot of people calling and screaming and it's just like, how do we

Trey Gerrald:

Right.

Marc Tumminelli:

and you get so much more and we all know this.

Marc Tumminelli:

If like, you're really nice to somebody versus like cursing somebody out.

Marc Tumminelli:

I've been, been on the wrong side of that a few

Chelsey Donn:

Yes.

Chelsey Donn:

I'm sure we all have.

Marc Tumminelli:

it's nice to be kill people with kindness.

Marc Tumminelli:

a lot,

Chelsey Donn:

love it.

Marc Tumminelli:

a Review!.

Marc Tumminelli:

I love to read a review.

Marc Tumminelli:

I write a review

Chelsey Donn:

I was going to say, have you ever written like a one-star review of something?

Marc Tumminelli:

Oh yeah.

Marc Tumminelli:

Oh certainly.

Marc Tumminelli:

I, I sh I probably, I think I have in the, oh, I have in the last like month,

Trey Gerrald:

I actually, yeah, your husband sent it to me.

Marc Tumminelli:

what was it for?

Marc Tumminelli:

I like don't even remember it.

Marc Tumminelli:

Wasn't the.

Trey Gerrald:

like the appliance.

Marc Tumminelli:

my God, that's it.

Marc Tumminelli:

She called me be like, why would you write that?

Marc Tumminelli:

Review!

Chelsey Donn:

my God.

Marc Tumminelli:

the Review!.

Marc Tumminelli:

She's like, I gave you everything back that you asked for.

Marc Tumminelli:

I said, but is anything in my review?

Marc Tumminelli:

A lie?

Marc Tumminelli:

Like, did I

Chelsey Donn:

Yeah.

Marc Tumminelli:

Where am I lying about anything?

Marc Tumminelli:

She's like, no, I was like, well, then

Chelsey Donn:

then the public deserves to know

Trey Gerrald:

that's ballsy of them to

Chelsey Donn:

to call it yeah.

Chelsey Donn:

To call you and be like, why would you do that?

Chelsey Donn:

How about calling and saying, I saw that you wrote the serve you, I wanted to like, you know,

Chelsey Donn:

Maybe you would have taken it down.

Marc Tumminelli:

I would have hundred percent taken it

Chelsey Donn:

Exactly.

Chelsey Donn:

I mean, that's the whole point full circle.

Chelsey Donn:

You win more flies with honey.

Chelsey Donn:

You know what I

Chelsey Donn:

mean?

Chelsey Donn:

There we go.

Trey Gerrald:

Alright.

Trey Gerrald:

So, Marc, you obviously know this because you are a listener and we love you for

Trey Gerrald:

as a warmup, we like to show our diversity as RQs, by sharing how we

Chelsey Donn:

So many.

Trey Gerrald:

judging.

Trey Gerrald:

Marc, I have a big ask for you.

Trey Gerrald:

you like to join us as we,

VOICEOVER:

Lodge A Complaint.

Marc Tumminelli:

Yes.

Chelsey Donn:

oh my God, Yay.

Chelsey Donn:

Okay, great.

Chelsey Donn:

Thank God.

Chelsey Donn:

He said, yes,

Chelsey Donn:

God.

Chelsey Donn:

I was worried.

Trey Gerrald:

Okay So I today really need to lodge a complaint against

Chelsey Donn:

Yes.

Trey Gerrald:

experience like you're laying in bed and you're trying to charge

Trey Gerrald:

You could just see as like

Trey Gerrald:

an

Marc Tumminelli:

Trey.

Marc Tumminelli:

You better leave

Chelsey Donn:

You better leave that.

Trey Gerrald:

and it's just it's it's like, Two, then you have to like roll on one side

Trey Gerrald:

It's just, it's awful.

Trey Gerrald:

I don't understand who came up with the actual lengths for which power cords standard

Chelsey Donn:

Yeah.

Chelsey Donn:

I was going to say like, do you think that there's like a focus group where

Trey Gerrald:

I know with apple, you can buy a, um, they have to, they do have a longer

Chelsey Donn:

I know ridiculous.

Trey Gerrald:

just, I'm lodging a complaint against power cords that are

Marc Tumminelli:

you thought matter how long it would be would never be long enough.

Trey Gerrald:

Yes.

Trey Gerrald:

I have actually thought about that.

Trey Gerrald:

I mean, that's very true to life, right.

Chelsey Donn:

Yeah.

Chelsey Donn:

What a metaphor.

Trey Gerrald:

that's my complaint.

Trey Gerrald:

I'm lodging it.

Trey Gerrald:

Please.

Trey Gerrald:

Someone help us another shark tank idea.

Chelsey Donn:

Oh my God.

Chelsey Donn:

Adding it to the ledger.

Chelsey Donn:

Totally agree.

Chelsey Donn:

I personally just wish that all power cords were like retractable,

Chelsey Donn:

Like

Trey Gerrald:

on iron irons

Chelsey Donn:

I want it as long as exactly.

Chelsey Donn:

I want to, as long as I want it when I want it that long, you know what I mean?

Chelsey Donn:

And then if I just want it short, I can make it short.

Chelsey Donn:

Like I would pay more for the product.

Chelsey Donn:

Why is it not, I don't know.

Marc Tumminelli:

Trey just said he wouldn't pay $10 extra for the long cord.

Trey Gerrald:

I have as the problem,

Chelsey Donn:

you pay for retractable though?

Chelsey Donn:

A retractable cord.

Chelsey Donn:

I mean, who wouldn't

Chelsey Donn:

pay for that?

Trey Gerrald:

Alright Marc, what about you?

Trey Gerrald:

Is there something you would like to complain

Marc Tumminelli:

Yeah.

Marc Tumminelli:

I want to complain about the company Quip and their toothbrushes.

Chelsey Donn:

Oh no.

Chelsey Donn:

Are they bad?

Chelsey Donn:

Tell me

Marc Tumminelli:

I'm very obsessed with teeth.

Marc Tumminelli:

So the Quip company is actually fabulous.

Marc Tumminelli:

I, I just, switched to equip this year.

Chelsey Donn:

Okay.

Marc Tumminelli:

And within like a couple of weeks, like it wouldn't do the full three-minute

Chelsey Donn:

Okay.

Marc Tumminelli:

the battery.

Marc Tumminelli:

Same thing was happening.

Marc Tumminelli:

I emailed them, they responded immediately and they

Chelsey Donn:

Great.

Marc Tumminelli:

something wrong here.

Marc Tumminelli:

We'll send you a fresh one new one coming in the mail.

Marc Tumminelli:

I'm like, oh, that's so nice.

Marc Tumminelli:

They're like, just throw out your old one and like, whatever.

Marc Tumminelli:

So I throw out the old one, got the new one it's happening again.

Chelsey Donn:

no.

Marc Tumminelli:

now here's, there's two things.

Marc Tumminelli:

I brushed my teeth more than a normal person.

Marc Tumminelli:

I

Chelsey Donn:

You're really putting this to the test,

Chelsey Donn:

the full test.

Marc Tumminelli:

a battery life.

Marc Tumminelli:

So it's fine.

Marc Tumminelli:

I can change my own battery.

Marc Tumminelli:

The problem is it is so hard to get

Chelsey Donn:

Um,

Marc Tumminelli:

out of the

Chelsey Donn:

you have a tail.

Marc Tumminelli:

that

Marc Tumminelli:

like,

Trey Gerrald:

clap

Chelsey Donn:

Oh,

Marc Tumminelli:

cannot separate these two things.

Marc Tumminelli:

And now I'm only sitting there thinking what is going to happen when I'm older, when

Chelsey Donn:

oh yeah.

Marc Tumminelli:

there's no way these are the things that I think about all day

Chelsey Donn:

Oh God.

Marc Tumminelli:

able to do this in my seventies, late seventies,

Chelsey Donn:

I can barely Do it now.

Chelsey Donn:

Yeah.

Marc Tumminelli:

So my issue with Quip is like, there needs to come a better way.

Marc Tumminelli:

Maybe you can turn it to the left and something needs to happen, but you can not get, the other

Chelsey Donn:

She has to order online or

Chelsey Donn:

what?

Marc Tumminelli:

Well, when you

Chelsey Donn:

months.

Marc Tumminelli:

comes with a toothpaste it comes with the floss.

Marc Tumminelli:

I don't want their toothpaste

Chelsey Donn:

Oh,

Marc Tumminelli:

own toothpaste.

Marc Tumminelli:

I just want extra heads because I'm going to change it

Chelsey Donn:

oh, that's ridiculous.

Chelsey Donn:

This is like all sounding very wasteful to me.

Chelsey Donn:

You know, throw the old toothbrush.

Marc Tumminelli:

months, it's just, got to say, I think I'm looking at some regular old back to

Chelsey Donn:

I going to say, go back to the Sonicare man.

Chelsey Donn:

I

Chelsey Donn:

have the Sonicare.

Chelsey Donn:

like it's great.

Chelsey Donn:

I know it's a lot.

Chelsey Donn:

Me too.

Chelsey Donn:

I

Chelsey Donn:

hate that part.

Trey Gerrald:

So good

Chelsey Donn:

Wow.

Trey Gerrald:

Quip, but that it is exceedingly difficult to pull it apart.

Trey Gerrald:

I've.

Marc Tumminelli:

But I do love the product.

Marc Tumminelli:

It's very good.

Marc Tumminelli:

And the customer service is excellent.

Marc Tumminelli:

So lodging, a complaint

Chelsey Donn:

Yeah,

Marc Tumminelli:

easier to remove.

Chelsey Donn:

they should really listen to this and change these things about their products.

Chelsey Donn:

Cause it seems like they're doing a lot, right.

Marc Tumminelli:

Please tag them in the show

Marc Tumminelli:

notes.

Trey Gerrald:

sure.

Chelsey Donn:

I just want to talk a little bit, cause I feel like this was a big topic back in the

Chelsey Donn:

Like if I'm reading like a New York times article or something, and then all of a sudden

Chelsey Donn:

Like just stop it, I can't stand it.

Chelsey Donn:

It's really annoying.

Chelsey Donn:

Or the popups that like move with you.

Chelsey Donn:

So you're trying to like do some sort of like, I don't know, online Jenga

Chelsey Donn:

What is this?

Marc Tumminelli:

particularly bad.

Marc Tumminelli:

If you're a theater lover and you check out playbill.com, is the worst pop-up situation.

Marc Tumminelli:

New York times is pretty bad

Chelsey Donn:

A'..

Marc Tumminelli:

it's a it's rough stuff.

Chelsey Donn:

It's like, yeah.

Chelsey Donn:

Get out of here.

Chelsey Donn:

And then sometimes there's like a hidden ex you got to find the fucking hidden necks.

Marc Tumminelli:

or the X is there and you hit it and it takes you to the

Chelsey Donn:

Oh yes.

Chelsey Donn:

Well, cause you didn't hit the X, right?

Chelsey Donn:

You hit the X a little bit to the right of the X and now you're at an ad landing page.

Chelsey Donn:

It's ridiculous.

Marc Tumminelli:

feel your Chelsey.

Chelsey Donn:

Thank

Chelsey Donn:

you.

Trey Gerrald:

feel you too.

Trey Gerrald:

That, that is like a thing.

Trey Gerrald:

It's like a constant aggravator as you're just trying to seek knowledge

Chelsey Donn:

Yeah.

Chelsey Donn:

Just trying to read an article, learn some things, you know?

Trey Gerrald:

we go.

Trey Gerrald:

So, Marc, since you coach for youth.

Trey Gerrald:

Today, brought it in a Review!

Trey Gerrald:

that we're really gonna need your expertise on.

Trey Gerrald:

Okay.

Chelsey Donn:

Yes.

Trey Gerrald:

have one star Yelp review for...

Trey Gerrald:

I'm nervous to say the company name.

Trey Gerrald:

I'm going to just say the company.

Trey Gerrald:

Okay.

Trey Gerrald:

So I have a one-star Yelp review for Barbizon youth acting and modeling

Marc Tumminelli:

great.

Trey Gerrald:

California, that I feel really needs to be inspected.

Trey Gerrald:

So how it works here is I'm going to read the review.

Trey Gerrald:

We're going to break it down together.

Trey Gerrald:

all three of us will rate the impact on a scale from one to five crowns.

Trey Gerrald:

And this is a very Regal process that we like to call.

VOICEOVER:

Assess that Kvetch!

Chelsey Donn:

And it's your turn Marc to embody your Review Queen ness and help us crown trays.

Chelsey Donn:

Our view.

Chelsey Donn:

Are you ready for the challenge

Marc Tumminelli:

am ready.

VOICEOVER:

Review That Review.

Trey Gerrald:

Okay.

Trey Gerrald:

So today I have a one-star review from Dolores L

Chelsey Donn:

Delores L.

Trey Gerrald:

from Yelp.

Trey Gerrald:

This is for Barbizon acting and modeling.

Trey Gerrald:

And here we go.

Trey Gerrald:

Honestly, I was really excited and interested in this, but just wait.

Trey Gerrald:

Me and my mom got approached by an older guy in Walmart telling us that

Trey Gerrald:

He said that it was a short line I had to say, and that it was going to be at the Marriott hotel.

Trey Gerrald:

He gave us an invitation that seemed legit.

Trey Gerrald:

The next day I went there and about 25 kids there.

Trey Gerrald:

We all went up and said our line.

Trey Gerrald:

After that we walked down the stage went to this table.

Trey Gerrald:

And all they said was, if we like you, we will call you within the week.

Trey Gerrald:

About a week later, they gave us a address to a acting school.

Trey Gerrald:

We went there and waited a long time.

Trey Gerrald:

The girl came finally late about an hour and called us in and said, sorry, her grandpa died.

Trey Gerrald:

And she lost track of time.

Trey Gerrald:

Really all a con.

Trey Gerrald:

She told me to stand in the corner, T H E E and say my line, I did,

Trey Gerrald:

I was really nervous and still asleep.

Trey Gerrald:

Oh!

Trey Gerrald:

I forgot.

Trey Gerrald:

There was another kid there waiting as well.

Trey Gerrald:

I noticed her from the audition.

Trey Gerrald:

Not to be mean, but she was not good at all.

Trey Gerrald:

She looked down the whole time and whispered her line and wouldn't stop shaking her leg.

Trey Gerrald:

They said that they only picked three out of everyone that was there.

Trey Gerrald:

Ummm...

Trey Gerrald:

pretty weird.

Trey Gerrald:

Anyways I was really bad in the audition in the corner and she smiled really big.

Trey Gerrald:

It kind of scared me and clapped and said, "amazing!"

Trey Gerrald:

She told us the whole procedure then told us the cost $3,000 for the whole six months.

Trey Gerrald:

My mom was willing to do whatever made me happy.

Trey Gerrald:

The girl told me I can pay now.

Trey Gerrald:

Or in six months I was going to do the six months thing.

Trey Gerrald:

I told my friend about it.

Trey Gerrald:

She told me they came up to her about four years ago in a mall and told

Trey Gerrald:

They auditioned and everything.

Trey Gerrald:

They both made it.

Trey Gerrald:

Their cost was $10,000 for both of them.

Trey Gerrald:

Their mom did it for them.

Trey Gerrald:

They went through with everything.

Trey Gerrald:

Then on the last part, the final audition with a bunch of agents in the front row.

Trey Gerrald:

They both did it and a bunch of agents went up to her sister telling her that she was amazing told

Trey Gerrald:

They never called her, and her mom wasted $10,000 for nothing.

Trey Gerrald:

think God for my friend, because luckily my mom didn't waste her money too.

Trey Gerrald:

All caps.

Trey Gerrald:

This is just a huge money hungry scam.

Trey Gerrald:

Don't go here.

Trey Gerrald:

Please.

Trey Gerrald:

And it's also weird that for all the reviews, I've read all the money prices is different.

Chelsey Donn:

Delores Delores, Delores.

Chelsey Donn:

How old do we think Dolores is?

Marc Tumminelli:

I think she's like 14, maybe 13.

Trey Gerrald:

I think Dolores has an early teen, sorry.

Trey Gerrald:

I had a hard time reading that because it really is like, there's maybe five periods in this.

Trey Gerrald:

It's all run on sentences with no capitalizations, but I, something about my

Trey Gerrald:

And she's like, everyone be careful.

Chelsey Donn:

Yeah

Marc Tumminelli:

is looking out for Dolores.

Chelsey Donn:

guys.

Chelsey Donn:

I mean, I know it's not the most important thing about the serve you, but I just feel like Dolores

Chelsey Donn:

Okay.

Chelsey Donn:

I mean, I know it's at the, well, so call her Dolores for the sake of this

Marc Tumminelli:

Well, this is something I tell the parents about all the time.

Marc Tumminelli:

This is like a very real scam that happens with lot of different companies like this.

Marc Tumminelli:

And John Robert Powers, there used to be something called the star network and they're all.

Marc Tumminelli:

Basically scams, where they go up to people in malls, they go out to people at targets.

Marc Tumminelli:

They say, you want to be an actor?

Chelsey Donn:

Yeah.

Marc Tumminelli:

this open Disney call where they say Disney call they'll post it.

Marc Tumminelli:

You can go to their websites.

Marc Tumminelli:

And then it's always at a hotel.

Chelsey Donn:

my God.

Chelsey Donn:

it's, shady.

Marc Tumminelli:

it's so shady.

Marc Tumminelli:

And normally it's jeez, Dolores, our friend saying there's only 25 kids.

Marc Tumminelli:

There it's normally like hundred kids there.

Chelsey Donn:

I was going to say I was shocked that it was so little,

Marc Tumminelli:

Um, it was probably a bad day at Barbara's on.

Marc Tumminelli:

So um, they, they give the kids like a commercial to read.

Marc Tumminelli:

And then a lot of times what they do is they give them a sticker that says

Marc Tumminelli:

That like you've made it past round one.

Marc Tumminelli:

they, they make it feel like the whole time you're auditioning until they sit you down

Marc Tumminelli:

And it only costs $1,100.

Chelsey Donn:

right, right, right.

Chelsey Donn:

Wow.

Marc Tumminelli:

the, do you know the famous bait and switch of, you know,

Marc Tumminelli:

If they bought the thousand dollar package,

Chelsey Donn:

So they're eliminating people presumably, right.

Chelsey Donn:

Or like,

Marc Tumminelli:

I don't think they're, they're not eliminating anyone.

Trey Gerrald:

Yeah.

Trey Gerrald:

I think they're telling that to add the pressure,

Chelsey Donn:

okay.

Trey Gerrald:

three people

Chelsey Donn:

Oh, got it.

Chelsey Donn:

But they're really saying that to everybody.

Chelsey Donn:

Ugh.

Chelsey Donn:

That's so gross.

Chelsey Donn:

Poor Dolores,

Marc Tumminelli:

they want to hear their kid's a star they want,

Chelsey Donn:

right?

Marc Tumminelli:

thinks their kid is gorgeous and talented and has

Chelsey Donn:

Sure.

Chelsey Donn:

Of course.

Marc Tumminelli:

and then there are kids who actually do have talent in something special and

Marc Tumminelli:

They are getting in

Chelsey Donn:

Well,

Marc Tumminelli:

of these people,

Chelsey Donn:

yeah.

Marc Tumminelli:

what cost.

Marc Tumminelli:

Yeah.

Chelsey Donn:

Well, I was wondering about that because when they talked about the

Chelsey Donn:

do think

Marc Tumminelli:

and the things that I

Chelsey Donn:

Or like assistance or something?

Marc Tumminelli:

And yeah, there assistance there,

Chelsey Donn:

Yeah.

Marc Tumminelli:

and the chances are, even if someone's really talented,

Chelsey Donn:

Right,

Marc Tumminelli:

a call.

Marc Tumminelli:

We used to do an industry, showcase a free showcase every year and

Marc Tumminelli:

we'd have like 300 kids audition.

Marc Tumminelli:

We'd put 40 showcase kids in the showcase and it was completely free to be in it.

Marc Tumminelli:

They didn't have

Chelsey Donn:

right.

Marc Tumminelli:

Um, and we were doing that so that we could meet new kids.

Marc Tumminelli:

We'd have like

Chelsey Donn:

Yeah.

Marc Tumminelli:

new kids we met.

Marc Tumminelli:

But out of those 40 that we thought were really Marcetable, maybe 15 got callbacks.

Chelsey Donn:

Right.

Marc Tumminelli:

you know what I mean?

Marc Tumminelli:

It's like, even if you have it and you're great, doesn't mean that an agent is looking

Chelsey Donn:

Right,

Marc Tumminelli:

it's, or they really just want really tiny kids.

Marc Tumminelli:

Yeah.

Marc Tumminelli:

like that.

Trey Gerrald:

it's interesting to me because I have a very close friend

Chelsey Donn:

Okay.

Trey Gerrald:

on.

Trey Gerrald:

they actually do teach, it is all inside of this huge financial commitment that's required.

Trey Gerrald:

But because Dolores is presumably young, I mean,

Trey Gerrald:

they were the one that was scouted.

Chelsey Donn:

Right.

Trey Gerrald:

perspective here because we have our own personal opinions of what

Trey Gerrald:

But from Dolores, his point of view and this Review!

Trey Gerrald:

we think that the information is valuable?

Chelsey Donn:

Yeah.

Chelsey Donn:

Very.

Marc Tumminelli:

think about it.

Marc Tumminelli:

If your parent, is the other thing, why it's so great that we have and this

Marc Tumminelli:

Is this a real thing.

Marc Tumminelli:

I always tell parents who probably works out cause we have a lot of kids come from all

Marc Tumminelli:

And the last day I do this whole thing about you're ever asked to pay

Chelsey Donn:

Red flag.

Marc Tumminelli:

good to be true, it is too good

Chelsey Donn:

Yeah.

Marc Tumminelli:

And if you have a question, email me and I will let you know.

Marc Tumminelli:

So

Chelsey Donn:

Right,

Marc Tumminelli:

get emails randomly, like, Hey, I got stopped to do this thing.

Marc Tumminelli:

I'm like, yeah, this is just a community theater.

Chelsey Donn:

right.

Chelsey Donn:

Yeah,

Marc Tumminelli:

a $200 fee to be in the show like,

Chelsey Donn:

sure.

Chelsey Donn:

Oh, gross.

Marc Tumminelli:

star and it costs $800 a month.

Marc Tumminelli:

And I'm gonna put your picture in this book, that was like a big thing in the eighties

Chelsey Donn:

yeah.

Marc Tumminelli:

of like coming up, um, it was faces international was the big

Chelsey Donn:

Yeah.

Chelsey Donn:

Was that the one that was like at like reproductions?

Chelsey Donn:

Like they would have like those books, I think in the waiting rooms till,

Chelsey Donn:

yeah.

Marc Tumminelli:

this huge book and you paid $250 or $500 if you wanted a full page.

Marc Tumminelli:

And

Chelsey Donn:

Oh my God.

Marc Tumminelli:

the agents and casting, my dad took me in to faces international and

Chelsey Donn:

my God.

Marc Tumminelli:

Like you meet with all the people, but they're like, but for $500, you

Chelsey Donn:

Wow.

Marc Tumminelli:

And then of course it all got

Chelsey Donn:

So gross.

Marc Tumminelli:

Elliot Gould was on the commercials.

Chelsey Donn:

Oh my God.

Marc Tumminelli:

as international commercial, put it on the Patreon

Chelsey Donn:

Oh yes.

Chelsey Donn:

I just think it's so sad.

Chelsey Donn:

There's something, you know, obviously there are acting programs that are out there that

Chelsey Donn:

then a parents.

Chelsey Donn:

And then a parent's love for the child

Chelsey Donn:

just feels so

Chelsey Donn:

gross to me.

Chelsey Donn:

Yeah.

Marc Tumminelli:

think she's very good.

Marc Tumminelli:

And she knows she's like, I am suck.

Marc Tumminelli:

I just was along for the

Marc Tumminelli:

ride.

Chelsey Donn:

I wanted to talk to you about that So like, do you think that it's possible

Marc Tumminelli:

I think it's like a kid who just doing it for fun.

Trey Gerrald:

Yeah.

Marc Tumminelli:

oh, it was really bad.

Marc Tumminelli:

Like they do the school play and they're like, well, my God, it was so embarrassing.

Marc Tumminelli:

It was like so bad.

Marc Tumminelli:

I was great.

Chelsey Donn:

be good.

Chelsey Donn:

I feel like sometimes the kids that are like, oh my God, I'm so bad end up being

Chelsey Donn:

And the kids that like really care and like really want to be great are really trying.

Chelsey Donn:

They just look not natural and good, but if you're like onstage and like,

Chelsey Donn:

This is dumb.

Chelsey Donn:

Maybe that actually looks real.

Chelsey Donn:

So I wonder if Dolores is being a little bit harsh on herself here.

Marc Tumminelli:

Well, like as much as they say they want like real kids, they don't, they want

Chelsey Donn:

Okay.

Marc Tumminelli:

that look real and are not annoying, but are good actors,

Chelsey Donn:

Right, right,

Marc Tumminelli:

gritty, real kids.

Marc Tumminelli:

I'm like, yeah, but you need them to present.

Marc Tumminelli:

Well,

Chelsey Donn:

right, right.

Marc Tumminelli:

kids.

Marc Tumminelli:

So

Chelsey Donn:

True.

Marc Tumminelli:

seems to me like salt of the earth.

Marc Tumminelli:

She's a real kid.

Marc Tumminelli:

sure she's working at a

Chelsey Donn:

For sure.

Chelsey Donn:

Yes.

Trey Gerrald:

it reminds me of how Audrey Hepburn famously said that every single day

Trey Gerrald:

But I

Chelsey Donn:

Right.

Chelsey Donn:

That's not what's happening here.

Trey Gerrald:

that's one line of dialogue that they had to act was.

Chelsey Donn:

Oh my God.

Marc Tumminelli:

it would probably is like, my stomach always hurts.

Marc Tumminelli:

But now with your children's Tylenol, my stomach feels great.

Marc Tumminelli:

It's like, it's always, it's always problem and a solution.

Chelsey Donn:

Right.

Marc Tumminelli:

a worst lunch, but now with new Lunchables, lunch is

Chelsey Donn:

Oh my God.

Marc Tumminelli:

It's like, someone's always bad at something.

Marc Tumminelli:

And then they get real good at it.

Chelsey Donn:

That's

Chelsey Donn:

hilarious.

Chelsey Donn:

Yes.

Chelsey Donn:

Dr.

Chelsey Donn:

Dolores.

Trey Gerrald:

atrocious.

Trey Gerrald:

I

Chelsey Donn:

Awful.

Trey Gerrald:

their mom's iPhone, typing it in, like, this is insane.

Trey Gerrald:

This girl, like she's really bad not to be mean.

Chelsey Donn:

Yes,

Trey Gerrald:

I do think that Delores is being truthful

Chelsey Donn:

do tail.

Trey Gerrald:

Marc was alluding to doesn't sound like Dolores has a lot, a lot in the game here.

Trey Gerrald:

I think Dolores was like, this could be fun for Saturday like, oh, but I'm like a bad actor.

Chelsey Donn:

Right, right, right.

Trey Gerrald:

this is bad this is a lot of money.

Trey Gerrald:

So for that reason, it sounds to me like Delores is being very truthful.

Chelsey Donn:

I do think Dolores has.

Chelsey Donn:

Yeah.

Chelsey Donn:

I think we could try.

Chelsey Donn:

I just wonder, like, if we're writing this as an assay, why the first point of con was

Chelsey Donn:

that was

Chelsey Donn:

like

Trey Gerrald:

a weird part.

Chelsey Donn:

right

Chelsey Donn:

thing.

Trey Gerrald:

AF okay.

Trey Gerrald:

It says, came finally late about an hour and called us in and said, sorry, her grandpa died.

Trey Gerrald:

And she lost track of time.

Trey Gerrald:

Really?

Trey Gerrald:

All a con,

Chelsey Donn:

all con so like why, like, why like, is that the first piece of evidence?

Chelsey Donn:

Like there's so many other

Marc Tumminelli:

she doesn't believe that she was late because her grandfather died.

Marc Tumminelli:

She thought she was

Chelsey Donn:

that

Marc Tumminelli:

some other BS.

Chelsey Donn:

that's

Chelsey Donn:

the con that's

Marc Tumminelli:

with a Starbucks.

Chelsey Donn:

right.

Chelsey Donn:

like, I don't

Chelsey Donn:

believe your grandfather died.

Trey Gerrald:

mourning a grandpa looks like.

Chelsey Donn:

know.

Chelsey Donn:

I just thought that

Chelsey Donn:

was So funny.

Trey Gerrald:

humor on the Review!.

Trey Gerrald:

How do we feel?

Trey Gerrald:

I think it's incidentally humorous.

Chelsey Donn:

Yeah.

Chelsey Donn:

Anecdotal

Chelsey Donn:

again.

Chelsey Donn:

Yeah.

Trey Gerrald:

So ultimately before we go into crowning, what do you think?

Trey Gerrald:

Like, would you find this to be a deal breaker for you?

Trey Gerrald:

Like if you were a parent?

Trey Gerrald:

Yeah, I would

Trey Gerrald:

why I love that.

Trey Gerrald:

Dolores is like not an angry mom.

Chelsey Donn:

Right.

Chelsey Donn:

Love.

Trey Gerrald:

it's like, this is a scam.

Chelsey Donn:

Yeah.

Chelsey Donn:

I mean, when I heard the name Delores and one SAR, I just assumed that this was going to be a

Chelsey Donn:

And I love that it was from the kid's perspective.

Chelsey Donn:

Yeah.

Trey Gerrald:

All right.

Trey Gerrald:

So I think I'm ready to cry now.

Trey Gerrald:

How do

Chelsey Donn:

I'm ready to crown.

Marc Tumminelli:

Yeah, sure.

Trey Gerrald:

Alright.

Trey Gerrald:

on a scale from one to five crowns, we will simultaneously reveal

VOICEOVER:

Queens are Tabulating.

Trey Gerrald:

whoa.

Chelsey Donn:

wow.

Chelsey Donn:

That's first

Marc Tumminelli:

I w

Chelsey Donn:

queen.

Marc Tumminelli:

I want to honor Dolores because maybe she

Chelsey Donn:

Yeah, I think so, too.

Marc Tumminelli:

on Review That Review.

Chelsey Donn:

I want to see Dolores.

Chelsey Donn:

I want to see if she is really bad.

Chelsey Donn:

Cause I have a feeling she's not

Marc Tumminelli:

What if I like found Delores and made her a star

Chelsey Donn:

think should

Chelsey Donn:

make Delores a start.

Chelsey Donn:

She's like,

Chelsey Donn:

' Marc Tumminelli: And now I'm in

Trey Gerrald:

Literally.

Trey Gerrald:

said four crowns because ultimately I feel like Delores really led from a protective heart

Chelsey Donn:

Yes,

Trey Gerrald:

while they didn't really do any auto, correct,

Trey Gerrald:

didn't do any grammar.

Trey Gerrald:

a huge punch to Delores as Review!.

Chelsey Donn:

yeah.

Trey Gerrald:

to take the one crown off because, uh, it, needs she needs

Trey Gerrald:

But, um, that's why I said four because I would not want to take any of my loved ones here.

Trey Gerrald:

What about you Chelsey?

Trey Gerrald:

Why did you say four.

Chelsey Donn:

I really love Dolores.

Chelsey Donn:

I mean, when I was a kid, I was like a chubby kid.

Chelsey Donn:

So I was never the one that was approached by any of these people.

Chelsey Donn:

And I was always like a little bit jealous.

Chelsey Donn:

I wanted to be approached in the mall or the Walmart and I wasn't.

Chelsey Donn:

And I feel like Dolores really took me through that whole process.

Chelsey Donn:

Like I could now write a lifetime movie about the process of being

Chelsey Donn:

And I think it's a real cautionary tale.

Chelsey Donn:

I love the fact that it's, from the kid's perspective, I think any parent reading this would

Chelsey Donn:

I took off the crown for, you know, spelling and grammar and the fact that she called

Chelsey Donn:

So other than that, I thought that Delores was a real queen.

Chelsey Donn:

And for crowns to Dolores,

Trey Gerrald:

what about you, Marc?

Trey Gerrald:

Why did you say four?

Marc Tumminelli:

I feel like any kid who's taking pen to paper or in this

Chelsey Donn:

yes,

Marc Tumminelli:

to iPhone, you know, deserves a little something special

Chelsey Donn:

agree.

Marc Tumminelli:

kids are not, I think kids should review

Chelsey Donn:

I agree.

Chelsey Donn:

Yeah.

Chelsey Donn:

Amazing.

Chelsey Donn:

Let's take a quick break.

Chelsey Donn:

And when we return, Marc has agreed to share a view that he himself has received.

Chelsey Donn:

Wow.

Trey Gerrald:

Ooh, I can't wait for that.

Trey Gerrald:

All right, we'll right, back.

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Hold your crown.

VOICEOVER:

we'll be right back.

Chelsey Donn:

All right, we are back.

Chelsey Donn:

And now it's time to get a little more personal Marc.

Chelsey Donn:

We asked you to bring a personal review in with you today.

Chelsey Donn:

That was either a harsh critic or an MVR, most valuable reviewer.

Trey Gerrald:

Basically a negative or a positive review, so we will together.

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Trey Gerrald:

And then just like before Marc, we will ask you to share with

Trey Gerrald:

So, Marc, what Review!

Trey Gerrald:

did you bring in for us today?

Marc Tumminelli:

So I picked a review from Alison Brooks Admunson, who is a,

Marc Tumminelli:

And then she also sent her daughter to New York to do multiple camps with us.

Marc Tumminelli:

and it just was a nice review and it was the first thing that popped out it's from August 25th, 2020.

Marc Tumminelli:

And as I mentioned, I don't have negative reviews, but it's not because people don't like me.

Marc Tumminelli:

Wait, it's not because people don't hate me.

Marc Tumminelli:

Plenty of people hate me, but, um, they just haven't taken to the internet with it yet.

Trey Gerrald:

I hope that this is not an invitation.

Chelsey Donn:

it's not.

Marc Tumminelli:

write nasty reviews about

Chelsey Donn:

Don't do it.

Chelsey Donn:

Don't you dare.

Trey Gerrald:

All right.

Trey Gerrald:

So Chelsey is going to read it.

Trey Gerrald:

I'm so excited.

Chelsey Donn:

Yes.

Chelsey Donn:

I will read this Facebook.

Chelsey Donn:

Review!

Chelsey Donn:

from Alison Brooks, Adamson for Broadway Workshop.

Chelsey Donn:

I cannot say enough good things about Broadway Workshop!

Chelsey Donn:

For one, Marc Tumminelli is a legend.

Chelsey Donn:

He is so down to earth and makes the kids feel like they have known him forever.

Chelsey Donn:

He understands that many students come to workshop full of anxiety.

Chelsey Donn:

His warm and friendly personality puts them at ease immediately.

Chelsey Donn:

He is such an encourager.

Chelsey Donn:

Marc's guest teachers are also amazing.

Chelsey Donn:

In six years of attending Broadway Workshop camps, not once, have we ever

Chelsey Donn:

From Camp Kentucky to NYC workshops, he brings the best of Broadway wherever he goes.

Chelsey Donn:

Aw,

Marc Tumminelli:

so sweet.

Marc Tumminelli:

Isn't

Chelsey Donn:

that's so nice.

Chelsey Donn:

I love that.

Chelsey Donn:

I just think there's so many great things in the serve you that if I were like a parent or

Chelsey Donn:

that would make me feel better.

Chelsey Donn:

Like I love the Alison address, the anxiety, because, you know, especially when I was a

Trey Gerrald:

Yeah, I actually it's.

Trey Gerrald:

interesting in contrast with Dolores is Review!

Trey Gerrald:

because I felt that there was so much unknown with Dolores and what

Trey Gerrald:

here is that the experience is very positive.

Trey Gerrald:

It's very encouraging.

Trey Gerrald:

And the whole idea of anxiety.

Trey Gerrald:

I feel like any there's.

Trey Gerrald:

I mean, there's so much anxiety that becomes around performance, getting in front of

Trey Gerrald:

And Alison really speaks to how Broadway Workshop cultivates a, an

Trey Gerrald:

I love this Review!

Trey Gerrald:

I think it's very valuable.

Trey Gerrald:

I also believe Alison, it seems like they are very invested in the product,

Chelsey Donn:

Yes.

Marc Tumminelli:

It's very sweet.

Marc Tumminelli:

Cause our, our program in Kentucky is meat going to Kentucky with like four other.

Marc Tumminelli:

You know, teaching artists and doing a week long intensive, and you know, it's kids

Marc Tumminelli:

So it's a very different It's a very different way of the way the workshops work.

Marc Tumminelli:

It's all very different.

Marc Tumminelli:

And so for a kid to, and it's very elevated for what they might be getting locally, even though

Marc Tumminelli:

Um, and it feels like they're nervous because they're going to do a theater camp

Chelsey Donn:

Of course.

Marc Tumminelli:

I believe they have been with us from our very first year there.

Marc Tumminelli:

So they were trying a new thing and here we were coming in and every year I brought different, you

Marc Tumminelli:

And it was really fun.

Marc Tumminelli:

And then some of those kids kind of banded together and were like, we're going to go to New

Marc Tumminelli:

Like, you know, obviously different families have different situations that allow them

Marc Tumminelli:

But for a lot of these kids, like, that'll be, it they'll do probably workshop and 99.9% of them

Marc Tumminelli:

And we just have this little week together as five days together.

Marc Tumminelli:

And that is, it's a really special thing to be part of, uh, some artistic excellence a young

Marc Tumminelli:

it's as exciting to me as the kids that decide that they want to move

Chelsey Donn:

I love

Chelsey Donn:

that.

Chelsey Donn:

There's so many things that she says that I think are helpful for a parent that are deciding

Chelsey Donn:

I love the fact that they've returned for six years.

Chelsey Donn:

That makes me feel like they're really genuine.

Chelsey Donn:

Like really makes me trust.

Chelsey Donn:

Alison BA.

Trey Gerrald:

Yeah.

Trey Gerrald:

That's a really great point.

Trey Gerrald:

I think like the repetition of, the relationship here speaks volumes, honestly,

Chelsey Donn:

And that light before doing six years.

Chelsey Donn:

And they've never been disappointed in the quality of the staff, then that's

Trey Gerrald:

For sure.

Chelsey Donn:

Yeah.

Chelsey Donn:

I love that.

Trey Gerrald:

The only thing, like the only sort of I have here, maybe for Alison is like,

Chelsey Donn:

Yeah.

Trey Gerrald:

I'm not having a lot of humor in the

Chelsey Donn:

No, I'm not like bowled over.

Chelsey Donn:

I'm

Chelsey Donn:

not laughing.

Trey Gerrald:

me is when, when we're talking about someone's children,

Chelsey Donn:

It's not funny.

Trey Gerrald:

know it's not like,

Marc Tumminelli:

it's not

Chelsey Donn:

No,

Trey Gerrald:

thing.

Marc Tumminelli:

in unclear of what sheet music was,

Chelsey Donn:

exactly,

Chelsey Donn:

exactly.

Marc Tumminelli:

of funny Review!.

Chelsey Donn:

Yeah.

Chelsey Donn:

that's

Trey Gerrald:

as a Review because I don't even know if it's a

Chelsey Donn:

applicable.

Chelsey Donn:

Yeah.

Chelsey Donn:

I don't know if it comes into play here.

Marc Tumminelli:

I'm just looking at other reviews and none of them are funny.

Chelsey Donn:

Yeah.

Chelsey Donn:

I don't think they need to be.

Chelsey Donn:

Another thing that I liked about Alison BA was I know that we've talked about you working

Chelsey Donn:

And so I think that that would be interesting to me if I was from somewhere outside of New York

Trey Gerrald:

for sure.

Chelsey Donn:

Yeah.

Trey Gerrald:

anything else you want to add to this before we crown

Marc Tumminelli:

No, it's so weird to be like, I'm amazing.

Marc Tumminelli:

Do you guys listen to this amazing Review!

Marc Tumminelli:

I would have loved

Chelsey Donn:

Well,

Marc Tumminelli:

a really negative review and told you this backstory, but

Chelsey Donn:

right.

Marc Tumminelli:

have that sadly.

Marc Tumminelli:

Well, no, I'm glad I don't have that, but no, it's really nice.

Marc Tumminelli:

It's really, this is like for anyone listening, that things you love and especially the small

Marc Tumminelli:

I just wrote a five-star Google review because it's like the best

Marc Tumminelli:

And I'm so worried they're going to close, but that's like the thing, if you find

Chelsey Donn:

Yeah.

Marc Tumminelli:

a small business that you know, who owns it, know, it's not the cheesecake

Chelsey Donn:

Right, right, right.

Marc Tumminelli:

businesses really rely on someone saying, or like a mom and pop or hotel,

Marc Tumminelli:

Go to Yelp, go to whatever their Facebook and see some positive things.

Marc Tumminelli:

So if anything, I could say they Review!

Marc Tumminelli:

means a lot to me, like all, all of the reviews you, because I own my own little business and

Marc Tumminelli:

And I try to pay that back wherever I can, with small businesses that,

Trey Gerrald:

really is a perfect example of the power that we possess as consumers.

Marc Tumminelli:

And we have a lot of what we'll call cheater brands that have

Chelsey Donn:

Wow.

Marc Tumminelli:

when I started probably workshop, there was like me and one other program, it was

Chelsey Donn:

Right,

Marc Tumminelli:

thing did not exist that everyone had an acting school.

Marc Tumminelli:

So, you know, I encourage parents to look at a legacy of a program.

Marc Tumminelli:

this been around two years?

Marc Tumminelli:

Has it been around 15

Chelsey Donn:

right,

Marc Tumminelli:

has this program made.

Marc Tumminelli:

Do you know, stars has this program made students great college students.

Chelsey Donn:

right, right, right.

Marc Tumminelli:

been a place where kids could feel safe and just have their weekend activity

Marc Tumminelli:

You know,

Chelsey Donn:

Yeah,

Marc Tumminelli:

like mine where it's like that person does not have anything to do with this.

Chelsey Donn:

right, I mean, I liked that you brought that up Marc, because your,

Chelsey Donn:

Obviously the, or your page rather

Chelsey Donn:

is, is a great URL, but we trust Alison BA because immediately after she says

Chelsey Donn:

And now automatically I know that there's a human being behind this organization.

Marc Tumminelli:

That's probably why I like it so much.

Trey Gerrald:

Well, I also

Chelsey Donn:

Yeah,

Trey Gerrald:

that, it isn't like, it doesn't sound ego because it

Chelsey Donn:

no,

Trey Gerrald:

to Minnelli school of drama,

Trey Gerrald:

like there's something

Marc Tumminelli:

Should I start that

Trey Gerrald:

think you should.

Chelsey Donn:

Why not?

Chelsey Donn:

At this point you've earned it, but I can.

Marc Tumminelli:

crown at.

Chelsey Donn:

Let's do it.

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Queens are Tabulating.

Chelsey Donn:

Oh my God.

Chelsey Donn:

We did it again.

Chelsey Donn:

Four and a half crowns, four and a half crowns.

Chelsey Donn:

Love it.

Chelsey Donn:

I did four and a half crowns.

Chelsey Donn:

I love this.

Chelsey Donn:

Review!

Chelsey Donn:

from Alison BA it takes a little bit of extra special sauce to make a full

Chelsey Donn:

I think it would be a little bit more of a detail about Allison's kid and like what it

Chelsey Donn:

But other than that real perfection, how about you, Trey?

Chelsey Donn:

What'd you think?

Trey Gerrald:

I had a similar thought I'm just sort of removing humor completely

Chelsey Donn:

Right.

Trey Gerrald:

don't find that I feel this way often, but I would love a dash more

Chelsey Donn:

Yes.

Trey Gerrald:

taking.

Marc Tumminelli:

yeah, it's a nice general.

Marc Tumminelli:

Review!

Trey Gerrald:

definitely get the positive sense of the impact for six years, which is huge.

Trey Gerrald:

So that's why I said four and a half.

Trey Gerrald:

It's so close to

Marc Tumminelli:

and I

Chelsey Donn:

close.

Marc Tumminelli:

Nadia Adamson.

Marc Tumminelli:

Who's the daughter of Alison

Chelsey Donn:

Oh,

Marc Tumminelli:

just a great kid.

Marc Tumminelli:

And I love her so much.

Marc Tumminelli:

just like a Ray of sunshine

Chelsey Donn:

oh, Nadia.

Trey Gerrald:

Marc, thank you

Chelsey Donn:

You're the best.

Trey Gerrald:

Alright.

Trey Gerrald:

We are reaching towards the end of the episode, but before we

Chelsey Donn:

Yes

Trey Gerrald:

Marc it's time for us to get serious and crank up the heat.

Chelsey Donn:

Yeah.

Chelsey Donn:

Can you take it, Marc?

Chelsey Donn:

Are you ready?

Marc Tumminelli:

You know, I am

Trey Gerrald:

So, Marc, we've got some serious questions for you,

Chelsey Donn:

All It's time for some strong opinions.

Chelsey Donn:

We want to hear your first gut reaction answer.

Chelsey Donn:

There is no wrong answer.

Chelsey Donn:

Just your immediate response.

Trey Gerrald:

Chelsey and I will alternate pulling questions out of our respective Kvetcher hats.

Marc Tumminelli:

Guys, you have so much cool stuff

Chelsey Donn:

Thank you.

Trey Gerrald:

We're gonna put 30 seconds on and you, Marc, will try to answer as

Trey Gerrald:

Okay.

Chelsey Donn:

Okay.

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3, 2, 1, GO!

Chelsey Donn:

Ok Marc!

Toilet paper:

under or over?

Trey Gerrald:

Marc, if you got food poisoning from a restaurant, would you go back?

Chelsey Donn:

Is cereaI soup?

Marc Tumminelli:

No

Trey Gerrald:

What does green tastes like?

Marc Tumminelli:

mint.

Chelsey Donn:

How do you pronounce G I F

Marc Tumminelli:

Jeff.

Trey Gerrald:

Would you see a doctor with a four-star rating?

Marc Tumminelli:

Yes.

Chelsey Donn:

Sophie's choice, Clueless or Mean Girls.

Marc Tumminelli:

Clueless.

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TripAdvisor.

Trey GerraldVacationing::

or Yelp?

Chelsey Donn:

IPhone or Android.

Marc Tumminelli:

iPhone.

Marc Tumminelli:

I'm Not psychopath.

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That's All.

Chelsey Donn:

Great job.

Chelsey Donn:

Wow.

Chelsey Donn:

That was a lot

Marc Tumminelli:

could have done more.

Marc Tumminelli:

You guys just needed to

Chelsey Donn:

less N okay.

Chelsey Donn:

All right.

Chelsey Donn:

Fine

Trey Gerrald:

one more?

Trey Gerrald:

Cause I love these

Marc Tumminelli:

I, this is fun.

Trey Gerrald:

Free tattoo from a three-star tattoo shop.

Trey Gerrald:

Yes or no.

Marc Tumminelli:

Uh, no, no, thank you.

Marc Tumminelli:

No, thank you.

Chelsey Donn:

top sheet or no, top sheet.

Marc Tumminelli:

No top sheet

Chelsey Donn:

Agree.

Chelsey Donn:

Thank you.

Trey Gerrald:

your most ex rate you,

Marc Tumminelli:

10 out of 10 baby.

Chelsey Donn:

Yeah.

Chelsey Donn:

Okay.

Chelsey Donn:

A person with a elite reviewer status.

Chelsey Donn:

Is that a turn on or turn off?

Marc Tumminelli:

On!

Chelsey Donn:

Yes.

Marc Tumminelli:

Turn on, daddy.

Trey Gerrald:

Have you ever asked speak with the manager?

Marc Tumminelli:

Yes,

Chelsey Donn:

Is a hot dog a sandwich?

Marc Tumminelli:

No,

Chelsey Donn:

Absolutely not.

Chelsey Donn:

Okay.

Trey Gerrald:

If animals could talk which would be the rudest

Marc Tumminelli:

my dog that is sleeping right such a grumble, Gus.

Chelsey Donn:

Okay.

Chelsey Donn:

What is more trustworthy?

Chelsey Donn:

Something that has only one star reviews, or something that has only five star reviews,

Marc Tumminelli:

The one-star review, I think.

Chelsey Donn:

right.

Chelsey Donn:

Something suspicious.

Trey Gerrald:

such a,

Marc Tumminelli:

You know, we do something like this on my podcast, but everyone

Marc Tumminelli:

I'll be like favorite place to go on vacation.

Marc Tumminelli:

Oh,

Chelsey Donn:

Well, maybe we'll make it a little longer than 30 seconds in the future.

Chelsey Donn:

Yeah.

Chelsey Donn:

I mean, cause we, we, we want to limit the time.

Chelsey Donn:

Cause there's something about that clock that really just makes

Chelsey Donn:

you like give that answer.

Chelsey Donn:

You got to have a

Chelsey Donn:

clock,

Marc Tumminelli:

it from you guys?

Chelsey Donn:

Please steal.

Trey Gerrald:

we are very thrilled to share with you that you've

Chelsey Donn:

It's true.

Chelsey Donn:

You have welcome.

Marc Tumminelli:

queen before all of this.

Chelsey Donn:

Welcome to the queendom.

Trey Gerrald:

So, here we are, Marc.

Trey Gerrald:

we have reached the most Regal portion of show.

Trey Gerrald:

Is

Chelsey Donn:

If there's.

Trey Gerrald:

that you find to be deserving of five stars that you

VOICEOVER:

My Royal Highness!

Marc Tumminelli:

Oh yes.

Marc Tumminelli:

Are you

Chelsey Donn:

Yes.

Chelsey Donn:

Yes.

Marc Tumminelli:

television.

Marc Tumminelli:

Great.

Marc Tumminelli:

Robert Stack, you might remember from Unsolved Mysteries.

Trey Gerrald:

was podcasts that you and I never said.

Marc Tumminelli:

Correct.

Marc Tumminelli:

I love Unsolved Mysteries so much.

Marc Tumminelli:

The original show that aired through the late eighties through the

Marc Tumminelli:

I have watched them and rewatch them.

Marc Tumminelli:

They never get boring to me.

Marc Tumminelli:

And Robert Stack is a gift.

Marc Tumminelli:

He is truly the most terrifying human being that ever walked the face of the earth.

Marc Tumminelli:

And he just is walking and talking to the camera, saying things a little bit wrong, and

Marc Tumminelli:

I, I gotta tell you wherever he is right now, he's looking down and going, Marc.

Marc Tumminelli:

Thank you for keeping my love alive.

Chelsey Donn:

I love

Chelsey Donn:

that.

Marc Tumminelli:

rewatch all season 12 yesterday.

Marc Tumminelli:

Okay.

Chelsey Donn:

Oh my what, what year was this?

Marc Tumminelli:

That's like 91.

Marc Tumminelli:

He's also in the movie airplane, which is the funniest movie of

Chelsey Donn:

Oh,

Marc Tumminelli:

So we know this man is like terrifying, but also a comic genius.

Marc Tumminelli:

I don't know The Untouchables well, but Unsolved Mysteries, Robert stack, uh,

Chelsey Donn:

let a guy

Marc Tumminelli:

Royal Highness.

Chelsey Donn:

it.

Trey Gerrald:

honestly, Robert Stack's voice.

Trey Gerrald:

Anytime I hear it, it's like an instant trap door to being in my child at home and being terrified.

Trey Gerrald:

I can hear his narration and it instantly scares me.

Trey Gerrald:

His voice is so scary.

Marc Tumminelli:

He also is

Chelsey Donn:

I can't.

Marc Tumminelli:

internet and he goes, check out www.unsolved.com, but

Chelsey Donn:

my God.

Marc Tumminelli:

can you find a clip

Chelsey Donn:

God.

Chelsey Donn:

Love

Chelsey Donn:

that.

Chelsey Donn:

Yes.

Trey Gerrald:

Marc!

Trey Gerrald:

Thank you so much for joining us today.

Trey Gerrald:

It's been an honor.

Marc Tumminelli:

Thank you for having me.

Marc Tumminelli:

What a dream.

Marc Tumminelli:

Congratulations on your fabulous podcast.

Marc Tumminelli:

Thank

Trey Gerrald:

tell all of the listeners where they can find you.

Marc Tumminelli:

Well, go ahead and follow me @MarcTumminelli on Instagram, but also check

Marc Tumminelli:

Also rate, subscribe, download.

Marc Tumminelli:

I don't really care if you listen to it, just rate, subscribe, download,

Chelsey Donn:

Yes.

Marc Tumminelli:

and you can also see what's happening at Broadway Workshop

Marc Tumminelli:

Me, Little Me, and, uh, Broadway Workshop

Trey Gerrald:

And, uh, some favorite recent episodes of Little Me: Growing Up

Trey Gerrald:

International sensation Debbie Gibson.

Chelsey Donn:

Stop

Chelsey Donn:

it.

Marc Tumminelli:

can't shake your love

Chelsey Donn:

Debbie give summons my first concert ever.

Chelsey Donn:

I'm obsessed with Debbie Gibson.

Chelsey Donn:

I hugged Debbie Gibson at like four years old backstage.

Chelsey Donn:

It's a thing we got to talk about in the aftershow

Chelsey Donn:

to saying, okay.

Marc Tumminelli:

to my episode with her, it's a scream.

Marc Tumminelli:

I'm a huge fan.

Marc Tumminelli:

So it

Chelsey Donn:

my God.

Marc Tumminelli:

a dream to get to talk to

Marc Tumminelli:

her.

Trey Gerrald:

dig deep into that in the after show, for sure.

Trey Gerrald:

Uh, but Marc has crazy A-List guests on his podcast.

Trey Gerrald:

He's an amazing interviewer.

Trey Gerrald:

So check it out.

Marc Tumminelli:

That's very sweet.

Chelsey Donn:

Yes.

Chelsey Donn:

And thank you for listening today.

Chelsey Donn:

If you liked what you heard, please tell a friend

Trey Gerrald:

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I'm @ChelseyBD and that's Chelsey with a Y.

Trey Gerrald:

I'm at @TreyGerrald.

Trey Gerrald:

And., We are going to cover an additional review with Marc on our after show podcast.

Trey Gerrald:

So to find out what made Chelsey say:

Chelsey Donn:

"I'm not going to lie.

Chelsey Donn:

I definitely thought about calling Dan Smith and learning how to play guitar."

Chelsey Donn:

And to find out what made Trey say:

Trey Gerrald:

"I was like obsessively listening to Les Mis!"

Chelsey Donn:

Join our patreon at patreon.com/ReviewThatReview to hear our

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And remember, ignore the haters.

Chelsey Donn:

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Trey Gerrald:

non-specific Queen.

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Bye!

Trey Gerrald:

Bye!

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