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3 Techniques for Navigating Toxic Relationships | Mardi Winder
Episode 13 • Bonus Episode • 15th September 2026 • Speakers Making Waves • Michelle Elise Abraham
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You can navigate difficult or toxic relationships more effectively by reducing emotional engagement, preparing for the conversation in advance, and knowing when it is time to walk away. Mardi Winder shares three practical techniques: use the gray rock method, visualize the outcome and how you want to show up, and establish a clear walk-away line or boundary. She also emphasizes that conflict alone does not automatically make someone toxic. Looking for repeated patterns of high-conflict behavior can help you respond more thoughtfully without rushing to label or diagnose someone.

Mardi explains how the gray rock technique can remove the emotional reaction a high-conflict person may be seeking, while visualization helps you enter difficult conversations with greater clarity and intention. She also introduces a simple breathing practice, inhaling for four counts and exhaling for six, to help you respond rather than react when you feel triggered. But even with all of those tools, Mardi stresses that you cannot control the other person. Knowing the point where you will pause or leave the conversation becomes an important part of protecting your own well-being.

Waves Worth Catching

  • Why one difficult interaction does not automatically mean you are dealing with a toxic person, and why patterns matter.
  • How becoming as uninteresting as a “gray rock” can take fuel away from a high-conflict conversation.
  • Why getting clear on your desired outcome before a difficult conversation can change how you show up in it.
  • The simple breathing technique Mardi recommends when you notice the first physical signs that you are becoming triggered.
  • Why knowing your walk-away line may be just as important as knowing what you want to say.

About Your Hosts:

Kimberly Crowe is an award-winning international speaker, TEDx speaker, six-time entrepreneur, best-selling author, and founder of Entrepreneurs Rocket Fuel. She is also the co-founder of Speakers Playhouse and is known for helping entrepreneurs, coaches, and speakers get seen, heard, and connected to the stages, people, and opportunities that can expand their reach and revenue.

Entrepreneurs Rocket Fuel: https://entrepreneursrocketfuel.com

Speakers Playhouse: https://speakersplayhouse.com

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kimberly-s-crowe/

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Michelle Abraham is an international speaker, podcast producer, and founder of AmplifYou and High Vibe Leaders. A longtime leader in the podcasting industry, she has helped launch hundreds of podcasts and works with entrepreneurs and thought leaders to turn their voices and messages into greater visibility, authority, and impact. Through High Vibe Leaders, Michelle brings visionary leaders together through podcasting, community, events, and transformational experiences.

AmplifYou: https://amplifyou.com

High Vibe Leaders: https://highvibeleaders.com/

LinkedIn: https://ca.linkedin.com/in/michelleeabraham

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/amplifyou.ca

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