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2023-05-25. Best of Brooklyn
Episode 4625th May 2023 • Reqless: Software in the Age of AI • Aboard
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In this episode Rich and Paul take you on a wonderful tour across Brooklyn's diversity, through the multiple "little" diverse communities there. For this episode specifically Rich and Paul created a board for Brooklyn, on Aboard - the sponsor of this podcast. Tune in and join the board to add your take on Brooklyn!

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Paul Ford:

Rich, how you doing?

Rich Ziade:

I'm doing real good.

Rich Ziade:

How you doing?

Rich Ziade:

How you doing?

Paul Ford:

I so thank you for that.

Paul Ford:

The way you just pronounced.

Paul Ford:

That is perfect for where I'm taking us.

Rich Ziade:

where you taking it?

Paul Ford:

I was walking in today.

Paul Ford:

I took a picture.

Paul Ford:

I shared it with you on WhatsApp and with your brother.

Paul Ford:

Uh,

Paul Ford:

there was a, a fruit delivery truck by the bodega on the new Kirk Avenue

Paul Ford:

stop when I was headed over here.

Rich Ziade:

Okay, cool.

Rich Ziade:

lots of food delivery trucks

Paul Ford:

This was, this was the fruit company?

Paul Ford:

Yeah.

Paul Ford:

Okay.

Paul Ford:

And it was, um, it just a big, I love the era we live in, in which

Paul Ford:

people just are able to print four colored giant posters of everything.

Paul Ford:

It's like when you go by the bodega name of the picture of all the sandwiches.

Rich Ziade:

there's an excellent Twitter account.

Rich Ziade:

That's just art from that

Paul Ford:

I love it.

Paul Ford:

I love it.

Paul Ford:

I love the sign.

Paul Ford:

If, if, if I really was given over to Fun and frolic, I would buy a sign store

Paul Ford:

in Brooklyn and just go live out of it.

Rich Ziade:

Oh, it's just like, oh, where's the roast beef?

Rich Ziade:

It's like literally flying sandwiches, ba slamming into each other and it

Rich Ziade:

just says, you know, 14th Street Deli.

Paul Ford:

Oh yeah, the bodega.

Paul Ford:

I've seen some good ones too.

Paul Ford:

I, I, there was one store where for about a week it said you

Paul Ford:

could get cigarettes and beagles.

Paul Ford:

That was good.

Paul Ford:

Uh, and the one near my house just pronounced, ha, they,

Paul Ford:

they didn't pronounce, they just spelled Hamburger Hamburg.

Paul Ford:

So that, that's good too.

Paul Ford:

I love the misspellings, but.

Paul Ford:

The banana truck, the the fruit store

Rich Ziade:

Yeah.

Paul Ford:

Big picture on the back of the truck, like the whole thing is taken over

Paul Ford:

a picture of fruit and we're right in very fancy type in memory of Johnny Bananas.

Paul Ford:

r i p r i p, Johnny Bananas.

Paul Ford:

It's

Paul Ford:

just a great moment and

Rich Ziade:

that is an extremely Brooklyn, potentially Staten Island moment.

Paul Ford:

just, yeah, exactly.

Paul Ford:

It's just, there's just this, there's something that happens only here where

Paul Ford:

it's actually both hilarious and touching.

Paul Ford:

And it really is.

Paul Ford:

In memory of Johnny Bananas,

Rich Ziade:

it really, you know, just let's, can we take

Rich Ziade:

five seconds of silence for

Rich Ziade:

you know what I love about Brooklyn?

Paul Ford:

I love a lot about Brooklyn, frankly.

Rich Ziade:

It's anti assimilation.

Paul Ford:

Yeah.

Paul Ford:

It, it, it's, it's,

Rich Ziade:

it's just like you want to go to Pakistan, get

Rich Ziade:

in a cab for eight minutes.

Paul Ford:

It's true.

Paul Ford:

I live, I live next to little Bangladesh.

Rich Ziade:

It's just this wild

Paul Ford:

Haiti isn't far away either.

Rich Ziade:

Yeah, and look, there's, there's a bit of

Rich Ziade:

that in the other boroughs.

Rich Ziade:

Let's be honest, Queens's, probably the MO like runs a close second.

Rich Ziade:

Maybe Bronx, Manhattan is annoying.

Rich Ziade:

Manhattan is like, okay, I got my master's degree and I'm coming back

Rich Ziade:

into the city to work for kpmg.

Rich Ziade:

Nothing against kpmg.

Rich Ziade:

We are, you know, they did

Paul Ford:

we'd love the demo aboard to

Rich Ziade:

We'd love to demo board to you, but look, it's a

Rich Ziade:

little, it's a little homogeneous and it's, you know, it's a lot

Rich Ziade:

of the, you know, where'd you go?

Rich Ziade:

Oh, Michigan.

Rich Ziade:

Congrats.

Paul Ford:

they, you get into those giant apartment buildings

Paul Ford:

where everyone is exactly the

Rich Ziade:

Yeah.

Rich Ziade:

and

Rich Ziade:

you know, I am an immigrant.

Rich Ziade:

Uh, I came to

Paul Ford:

You don't say

Rich Ziade:

I am, and, and, and the funny thing about, you know,

Rich Ziade:

Brooklyn is why do like people create these sort of concentrated

Rich Ziade:

pockets of different nationalities?

Rich Ziade:

It's because when they come here, they're like, go there

Paul Ford:

Yeah.

Rich Ziade:

asap.

Rich Ziade:

Like, go there.

Rich Ziade:

You're, you're Arabic, go to Bay Ridge, you're.

Rich Ziade:

Greek go to Astoria Queens, like they're told to go where

Rich Ziade:

it is a little familiar to them.

Paul Ford:

I can't remember what it's either little Pakistan or

Paul Ford:

little Bangladesh, but in there is a na, the neighborhood I'm in.

Paul Ford:

Has little, lots of little

Rich Ziade:

Yeah.

Paul Ford:

One of them is simply because there was a dam that was built.

Rich Ziade:

Okay.

Rich Ziade:

And

Paul Ford:

And it it wrecked a lot of communities.

Paul Ford:

And so the people who whose lives were disrupted by the

Paul Ford:

dam were brought, came over.

Rich Ziade:

I see.

Paul Ford:

And they all settled in this one neighborhood.

Paul Ford:

And

Rich Ziade:

and they tend to stick together.

Rich Ziade:

Like

Paul Ford:

And you can get an amazing like curried goat dish to this day.

Rich Ziade:

Right, exactly.

Rich Ziade:

And, and, and I think what happens is when people find that sort of pocket

Rich Ziade:

of culture, they can sort of slip right into, cuz it's familiar to them.

Rich Ziade:

They don't shed it,

Rich Ziade:

they shed it when they move, like, I got a job in, in, in Charleston, then

Rich Ziade:

they start to shed it and it gets weird.

Paul Ford:

Then the kids are named James.

Rich Ziade:

Yeah.

Rich Ziade:

And look, that's all fine.

Rich Ziade:

That's not a bad thing, but GR Brooklyn is, you ever see those like little

Rich Ziade:

pads you put out for like bugs?

Rich Ziade:

It's very sticky.

Rich Ziade:

Yeah.

Rich Ziade:

Like if you get it on your hand by mistake, you gotta have to like war

Rich Ziade:

Rin, like you have to run warm water.

Paul Ford:

You know what's funny that we should, we should be clear.

Paul Ford:

Like I went, I went by, there was this huge street fair.

Paul Ford:

And it was not for the white people, it was for the mostly Pakistani community.

Paul Ford:

But everybody was there.

Paul Ford:

Right.

Paul Ford:

And I, and I got, I bought some samosas and like hung out for a while.

Paul Ford:

Like it's not, when you say non assimilationist, and I think when people

Paul Ford:

think about New York City, they're gonna think about like a Spike Lee film.

Paul Ford:

Yeah,

Rich Ziade:

yeah.

Paul Ford:

reality is like you're just kind of riding your bike or

Paul Ford:

walking around and you're like, oh cool, you guys are having a good

Rich Ziade:

I might be using the word wrong.

Rich Ziade:

What I mean by assimilate is like shedding some of your past

Paul Ford:

No, no, I think you're totally right.

Rich Ziade:

It kind of can't be, we're too jammed together.

Rich Ziade:

Seeing an old Polish couple walk around Williamsburg.

Rich Ziade:

Confused is still a funny thing to this day.

Paul Ford:

what is this?

Paul Ford:

Why are they selling a mink ottoman with coffee?

Paul Ford:

Like, I don't

Paul Ford:

I wanted Pirogi

Rich Ziade:

and, and I think that's what it's beautiful about Brooklyn.

Rich Ziade:

Uh, you can't, I mean, look, there are all kinds of Brooklyn, uh, in Brooklyn.

Rich Ziade:

Brooklyn is a

Paul Ford:

Well, and, and the Brooklyn that is now the

Paul Ford:

global brand of Brooklyn Yeah.

Paul Ford:

Is.

Paul Ford:

Actually a very large city unto itself, but a very small part of Brooklyn.

Rich Ziade:

That's a, I live in the global brand of Brooklyn.

Rich Ziade:

I live in a neighborhood called Park Slope in Brooklyn, uh, which is connected

Rich Ziade:

to Cobble Hill and Brooklyn Heights, which are these really, really sort

Rich Ziade:

of, I, I'll say the word gentrified, gentrified pockets within Brooklyn.

Rich Ziade:

That changed a lot.

Rich Ziade:

Like Smith Street in Brooklyn used to be a

Paul Ford:

This is like, you're on like four layers of, of gentrification over

Rich Ziade:

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Rich Ziade:

But there are po

Paul Ford:

like you're at a point now where when you move

Paul Ford:

in, you're kicking out lawyers.

Rich Ziade:

Yes,

Rich Ziade:

Yes, yes, Which, you know, people are, some are in favor of, um, but you

Rich Ziade:

still have, you know, neighborhoods like Bay Ridge, which were, is where

Rich Ziade:

I grew up, which is still extremely Italian and extremely cannoli like

Paul Ford:

like it is.

Paul Ford:

It is Bay Ridge oi.

Paul Ford:

Can you get a good Greek meal?

Paul Ford:

Oh my, oh my

Rich Ziade:

beautiful restaurants there, but it's truly, it really

Rich Ziade:

has not changed that much.

Rich Ziade:

It

Rich Ziade:

hasn't changed.

Paul Ford:

Cops and firemen still live there

Rich Ziade:

And, and you like, to your point, you know, along the Coney Island

Rich Ziade:

Avenue corridor, it hasn't changed that

Paul Ford:

I always, I always felt that there, well, Coney Island

Paul Ford:

Avenue is Mi miraculous street.

Paul Ford:

If you're ever in New York City and you want a real New York City

Paul Ford:

and not even little like, hey, the insiders New York City, but

Paul Ford:

the one that no one will show you.

Paul Ford:

Yeah.

Paul Ford:

Go to Coney Island Avenue

Rich Ziade:

the one the New Yorkers don't want to take you

Paul Ford:

Yeah, just walk down Coney Island Avenue as long as you can.

Paul Ford:

Yeah.

Paul Ford:

And it is like, Oh, I'm in Aer Baja.

Paul Ford:

Oh, I'm at a tire store.

Paul Ford:

Like I'm, I'm in the, the cultural shifts that happened on that block.

Paul Ford:

I absolutely love that block.

Paul Ford:

So, or that, that street, um, I always felt that there should be a neighborhood

Paul Ford:

because, you know, as my career was moving along, I'd go meet people at

Paul Ford:

places like Conde Nast and they'd be like, Oh, you live in Brooklyn and they

Paul Ford:

might know like one or two neighborhoods.

Paul Ford:

Yeah, and I've always lived further out and I just came up with the idea

Paul Ford:

of way Falbo, which is my neighborhood, which is way the fuck out in Brooklyn.

Paul Ford:

Just easier for people to understand.

Rich Ziade:

I mean, that is still relevant today.

Paul Ford:

Yeah, they know where you are.

Paul Ford:

They know the slope.

Paul Ford:

They know the heights.

Paul Ford:

They know Cobble Hill and Carol Gardens.

Paul Ford:

Anywhere that like Maggie Gillen Hall might be found, they tend to be aware

Rich Ziade:

I think it's Gillen Hall

Paul Ford:

Is it Or a scars guard?

Paul Ford:

They like a good scars guard.

Paul Ford:

I

Rich Ziade:

think it's scars.

Rich Ziade:

Gerd, no, I don't know about, I don't know the right answer for either

Paul Ford:

But I live in way falbo.

Paul Ford:

I go to Coney Island or to the Rockaways on the weekends.

Paul Ford:

I don't go into the city.

Rich Ziade:

Right.

Rich Ziade:

You go the other way.

Rich Ziade:

Yeah, and I know Mill Basin and Keni, I lived there for a bit too.

Rich Ziade:

These are like,

Paul Ford:

are not good.

Paul Ford:

Mill Basin is if you want to be, if you want a guy in a forerunner to get out and

Paul Ford:

punch you in the face, that's Mill Basin.

Paul Ford:

So look, what are some of the best things in Brooklyn, Richard?

Paul Ford:

What are what?

Paul Ford:

Let's, let's each name like three or four things we

Paul Ford:

absolutely

Rich Ziade:

minute per,

Paul Ford:

And I'll tell you while we did this, the funniest thing

Paul Ford:

happened is we were just gonna do this as regular old content.

Paul Ford:

And this is where it gets marketing ready for some marketing.

Rich Ziade:

Yeah, go ahead.

Paul Ford:

and I have a product that we are co-founders of.

Paul Ford:

We've been building for a while.

Rich Ziade:

Yes.

Rich Ziade:

It's called a A board.

Paul Ford:

Very good.

Paul Ford:

Thank you for getting there.

Paul Ford:

I almost forgot.

Paul Ford:

And, uh, a board lets you organize your passions, lets you put stuff together

Paul Ford:

into cards and you stack them up and now you can share them with anybody.

Paul Ford:

Yes.

Paul Ford:

So while we were talking and I was saying like, well, here's

Paul Ford:

some content we could create.

Paul Ford:

You looked at me and you went and we could use our own product here to organize

Paul Ford:

the things that we like about Brooklyn.

Paul Ford:

Totally.

Paul Ford:

And so, Five minutes before we did this podcast, which let, let me be clear.

Paul Ford:

Usually we prepare for days, but today it just happened to be five minutes.

Paul Ford:

Yes.

Paul Ford:

Just a, just a coincidence.

Paul Ford:

Um, I made a board and we started to go through and add a few things to him.

Paul Ford:

We haven't added many things to it, but I'm gonna look, we're

Paul Ford:

each gonna say things we love about Brooklyn, some history, some

Paul Ford:

food, and just a generic place.

Paul Ford:

We'll do one of

Paul Ford:

each.

Rich Ziade:

Yeah.

Rich Ziade:

And look, we're not Brooklyn experts.

Rich Ziade:

If you are in Brooklyn and you have things to add to, uh, our space, uh, let us know.

Rich Ziade:

Email us at hello@zitiford.com and we'll invite you in.

Paul Ford:

in.

Paul Ford:

Okay?

Paul Ford:

Yeah, that's right because anyone can be part of this board.

Paul Ford:

Yeah.

Paul Ford:

So, alright.

Paul Ford:

I'm gonna start with, I'm gonna, I'm gonna actually knock out you,

Rich Ziade:

a minute.

Rich Ziade:

I'm gonna make my We can talk one per minute and we're gonna share

Rich Ziade:

five of the cards on the board.

Rich Ziade:

And there it may have a lot more by the time you see it.

Paul Ford:

Okay, I'm gonna start with a downer, but it's not really a downer.

Paul Ford:

Greenwood Cemetery.

Paul Ford:

You ever been there?

Rich Ziade:

That sounds like a blast.

Paul Ford:

Greenwood Cemetery is this deeply historic and

Paul Ford:

it's about 150 plus years old.

Paul Ford:

It's founded in 1838,

Rich Ziade:

Okay.

Paul Ford:

it is one of my favorite places in Brooklyn.

Paul Ford:

It is the size of Prospect Park,

Rich Ziade:

Is that right?

Paul Ford:

close.

Paul Ford:

Yeah, it's not quite as big, but it is big.

Paul Ford:

Okay.

Paul Ford:

It is the site of a Revolutionary War battle.

Rich Ziade:

Oh boy.

Paul Ford:

has the highest point in Brooklyn, and it is historically

Paul Ford:

important, filled with Wild Mausoleum, some of which were designed by Tiffany,

Rich Ziade:

Whoa.

Paul Ford:

Tiffany Glass, and it's one of the actually most beautiful

Paul Ford:

settings and environments in the fibers,

Rich Ziade:

but it has a lot of deceased people

Paul Ford:

yeah, but I'll tell you what,

Paul Ford:

that's Oh, okay.

Paul Ford:

What's, do you got one or you want me to keep going?

Rich Ziade:

I've got one full disclosure.

Rich Ziade:

Uh, it is a landmarked location.

Rich Ziade:

Uh, well, full disclosure.

Rich Ziade:

Well, I'll do the full disclosure

Paul Ford:

Yeah.

Paul Ford:

You,

Rich Ziade:

It's in Brooklyn Heights, which is one of the

Rich Ziade:

most expensive, exclusive, fancy neighborhoods in Brooklyn.

Rich Ziade:

Uh, and they make a good sandwich.

Rich Ziade:

And there's a really salty proprietor named Frank who runs it, who just

Rich Ziade:

yells at actually some of the most important and influential people

Rich Ziade:

in New York City because they want more mayonnaise on their sandwich.

Rich Ziade:

He just yells at everyone, and it's actually pretty hilarious.

Rich Ziade:

It's called Brooklyn Heights Deli.

Paul Ford:

Mm-hmm.

Rich Ziade:

Full disclosure, um, Frank is my uncle.

Rich Ziade:

I've known him my entire life.

Rich Ziade:

He's actually a big teddy bear, which is why I think most people love him, uh,

Rich Ziade:

even though he yells at everyone, like it's on the same physical block as the,

Rich Ziade:

uh, The education commissioner's home.

Rich Ziade:

Sure.

Rich Ziade:

When you become Commissioner of Education in New York City, you, you live in like a

Rich Ziade:

mansion, like a mayor's mansion and they, I guess they probably have this for other.

Rich Ziade:

And so there's all these prominent figures come in the place often gets shut down

Rich Ziade:

to film, uh, TV shows and movies cuz it's like this beautiful idyllic little shop.

Rich Ziade:

But he is a salty, angry Lebanese guy who makes a preposterously

Rich Ziade:

large roast beef sandwich.

Paul Ford:

Little story about that place, even though we're gonna run

Paul Ford:

outta time, but it's a good story.

Paul Ford:

Um, my twins were born at Long Island College Hospital.

Paul Ford:

Right around the corner, From the Brooklyn Heights

Rich Ziade:

That's right.

Paul Ford:

So when you have kids, you, it's not like they're gonna

Paul Ford:

cater, you don't get hospital food.

Paul Ford:

Like you don't, they don't bring you anything.

Rich Ziade:

Go to Brooklyn Heights Deli.

Paul Ford:

I went, that was my first sandwich after I

Paul Ford:

got my, the twins were born.

Paul Ford:

I went and got a sandwich and uh, I told the guys like, yeah,

Paul Ford:

I just had kids at the hospital.

Paul Ford:

And he was like, oh hey, congratulations.

Paul Ford:

And I gave him a good tip, but I don't think it was Frank, but

Rich Ziade:

probably wasn't Frank.

Rich Ziade:

He wouldn't have said congratulations.

Rich Ziade:

He was like, welcome to hell buddy.

Rich Ziade:

All right.

Rich Ziade:

You're up.

Paul Ford:

Um, well, you know, I'm gonna keep it real with sandwiches.

Paul Ford:

This is a place you don't know this place.

Rich Ziade:

I don't.

Paul Ford:

Red hook, red hook down, down

Rich Ziade:

Red Hook is,

Paul Ford:

Yeah, you keep going, you keep going until you get to the water off.

Paul Ford:

You start at the Brooklyn Heights Deli and you actually just

Paul Ford:

keep walking down Court Street.

Rich Ziade:

What's it called?

Paul Ford:

it called?

Paul Ford:

Devonte's.

Paul Ford:

It's a sandwich shop.

Rich Ziade:

Okay.

Paul Ford:

And it's just, there is a, a good Brooklyn sandwich

Paul Ford:

is a is a hell of a thing.

Rich Ziade:

It's a, it's a thing.

Paul Ford:

The deli sandwich is one thing.

Paul Ford:

And Frank Frank's place makes amazing deli sandwiches.

Paul Ford:

Yeah.

Paul Ford:

These are kind of the next level full on chicken parm, like everything's hot,

Paul Ford:

the meatball sub, that kind of thing.

Paul Ford:

Sandwich

Rich Ziade:

you It's hard to finish it.

Rich Ziade:

It's so freaking

Paul Ford:

It's a medically difficult sandwich.

Paul Ford:

Since I went on Manjaro, I don't actually want to go there very much.

Paul Ford:

Um, it's

Rich Ziade:

an experience.

Rich Ziade:

Red hook's a weird part of Brooklyn.

Rich Ziade:

So if you're coming into Brooklyn, check out Red Hook.

Paul Ford:

Correct.

Paul Ford:

All right, rich, back to you.

Rich Ziade:

All right.

Rich Ziade:

Um, alright, well we're on restaurants.

Rich Ziade:

I'll do one more restaurant and then you do one more and we'll call it a day here.

Paul Ford:

Well wait.

Paul Ford:

That was 1, 2, 3.

Paul Ford:

Okay.

Paul Ford:

Yeah.

Paul Ford:

Four, five.

Paul Ford:

There we go.

Rich Ziade:

There we go.

Rich Ziade:

Um, so I grew up in Bay Ridge for many of my years, uh, and there is an Italian

Rich Ziade:

restaurant there called Ponte Vecchio that is named after Ponte Vecchio

Rich Ziade:

probably, which is I think a bridge.

Paul Ford:

It's a famous bridge in Venice, or one of those things.

Paul Ford:

Yeah.

Rich Ziade:

Anyway, if you want an absolutely authentic, un ironic, just.

Rich Ziade:

An excellent Italian dinner with like a real, like deep in Brooklyn vibe.

Rich Ziade:

You kind of can't beat Ponte Vecchio.

Rich Ziade:

I'll, I'll, I'll, I'm gonna imitate one of the waiters, greeting someone that

Rich Ziade:

walked in with one word and you will get

Paul Ford:

okay.

Paul Ford:

Ready?

Paul Ford:

I'm ready.

Rich Ziade:

So the guy walks in, the waiter sees him from across the restaurant

Rich Ziade:

and he goes, Jimmy, And that was it.

Rich Ziade:

And then you're like, okay, let's, let's have some linguini and white clam.

Rich Ziade:

All right, so Paul, you've got number five,

Paul Ford:

Jimmy.

Paul Ford:

Uh, it's real.

Paul Ford:

It's, it's, um, uh, number five is,

Paul Ford:

Not exactly one place, but it is this, it's, you go, you can ride

Paul Ford:

your bike down the beautiful and well maintained bike path on Bedford Avenue

Rich Ziade:

Uh huh

Paul Ford:

And you can, you get to, um, you can either keep going

Paul Ford:

to sheep's head Bay, but you can actually use this and you can.

Paul Ford:

Kind of go down, go to Chief Tab Bay, take a left.

Paul Ford:

There's more and more bike paths until you get to the Rockaways.

Paul Ford:

And the Rockaways is one of the best beaches in the world.

Paul Ford:

I, I will argue for that.

Paul Ford:

It is an open public beach.

Paul Ford:

It's vast, and it is filled with humans.

Paul Ford:

I mean, if you're looking for, like, I'm gonna walk quietly on the beach

Paul Ford:

in a linen sweater, and, you know,

Rich Ziade:

this might not be for you.

Paul Ford:

rich people, thoughts, that's, that's not this beach.

Paul Ford:

But this is like, I want to see everyone in humanity, everyone.

Rich Ziade:

Everyone's coming

Paul Ford:

and I kind of want to go swimming and it should be pretty

Paul Ford:

like, like nice to go swimming.

Rich Ziade:

Yeah.

Rich Ziade:

It's wor it works

Paul Ford:

there's a toilet like that.

Paul Ford:

That's the Rockaways.

Paul Ford:

Rockaways are great.

Paul Ford:

So that there, there's just good public infrastructure to get you out

Paul Ford:

to the beach and everybody's going.

Paul Ford:

So that's, it's summer's coming.

Paul Ford:

Uh, do it.

Rich Ziade:

I'm gonna throw a bonus one out there and only take 20 seconds for

Paul Ford:

Okay.

Paul Ford:

I'm ready.

Paul Ford:

There's

Rich Ziade:

a ridiculous, uh, fast food place that you would think had hundreds

Rich Ziade:

of locations, but I think has one.

Paul Ford:

Oh, it's not too fast though.

Rich Ziade:

It's not too fast.

Rich Ziade:

It's called Roland Roaster.

Rich Ziade:

in sheep's head bay.

Rich Ziade:

I kid you not, if you turn the lights out and look at the sandwich, and if

Rich Ziade:

you got the roast beef with cheese, the cheese glows so brightly that

Rich Ziade:

it could light the room you're in.

Paul Ford:

I think everyone who can tolerate roast beef should

Paul Ford:

go to roll and roast, right?

Paul Ford:

It is truly one of the most fantastic experiences in Brooklyn.

Paul Ford:

Look up the commercial online.

Paul Ford:

yeah, it, it hasn't changed.

Paul Ford:

So let me ask you something.

Paul Ford:

Did our product help us get this podcast together?

Rich Ziade:

It did.

Rich Ziade:

It did it.

Rich Ziade:

It it, it's funny we went into product mode.

Rich Ziade:

We were like, oh, it didn't parse correctly, but yes it did.

Rich Ziade:

And I think what's interesting about it is, um, the idea of letting

Rich Ziade:

others sort of share their insights.

Rich Ziade:

Cuz Brooklyn is 5 million people

Paul Ford:

Yeah.

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and there is probably something I should know about in some

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they grew up there can share it out.

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So, A, a board is very much about letting others fold in.

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Um, and we're still figuring that out, but it is, it is a place to, to

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number one and two of this tool made it easier for us to get a podcast done.

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