Today's guest told me that when he's told to tone it down, he cranks it 10x!

On this episode I'm chatting with Montreal video producer, xcephasx

https://xcephasx.com/

Cephas describes himself as a business man first - and an artist second... which i think is great because we need more business minded creatives as far as I'm concerned!

So today we're talking business systems and animaniacs?  

Cephas talks to me about pushing it so that people feel it, how he never wanted to grow up and how art is exciting but so is seeing the money deposited in your bank account!

it's a really fun chat this week, you are going to love it!

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