My journey to becoming an online business attorney wasn't something that happened overnight. I didn't wake up one morning and decide to be an online business attorney. I started my career as an attorney on a more traditional path.

However, circumstances lined up, and one thing led to another, and I realized that becoming an online attorney was my calling, this is what I had to do.

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You are listening to Not So Risky Business podcast where we

make legal easy for you by unlocking access to essential legal information,

training and strategy for online businesses, coaches and entrepreneurs.

I'm your host, Mariam Tsaturyan.

Welcome.

Hello.

Hello.

So I've decided to do things a little bit differently to shake things up,

and I've realized that I haven't really introduced myself to you in all this time.

You've been listening to these episodes.

Hopefully you have been finding them helpful for your businesses.

So I wanted to connect with you better today.

I wanted to give you a little bit of background as to who I am, how I

came to be how what I do today came to be, and the main reason for that.

I hope you'll enjoy the episode, and if you do, please don't forget to give me

a follow and leave a review if you have.

A quick minute, so let's get started.

As I've talked about the fact that I'm actually an attorney many times during

this episodes, just because I have to do my legal disclaimer all the time.

But this journey as attorney for online entrepreneurs didn't start out

from the fact that I was an attorney.

So several years ago I believe it was maybe 2017 my husband

applied for his medical residency.

He's a physician, and we got the results that he matched in Washington State

in this county called Yakima County.

For those of you who don't know about Yakima it's took quite

little place, a very agricultural farming and, growing trees.

Delicious apples and peaches and cherries, like all that good stuff.

But we had to move, we had to move to a new state from California for three

years we had to move to Washington State.

We didn't have anyone there.

We didn't know anyone in that state.

You can say it was a little bit of an adjustment for all

of us, but we moved there.

After three months or so, we adjusted and we actually fell in love with the place.

We bought ourselves a little house.

Everything was great.

My husband and I looked for an office space for me, and I opened up my law firm.

While we were there, I found the babysitter who was caring for my kid.

Thankfully, everything seemed to work out for a little while.

Unfortunately it didn't last long.

I say unfortunately, but I think it was fortunate because it actually

set me on the path that I am now.

And I believe I was always called to do this.

This was always going to be part of my journey.

I just didn't know that.

And circumstances made it so that it was impossible for me not to do it.

So as I was practicing in Washington state I realized that I was spending

a lot of time apart from my child.

He was barely two years old at the time.

Oh no, I'm sorry.

He was not even two years old.

He was barely a year old at the time.

And I was spending all my time at the office.

I would come home constantly worried about him because the

babysitter we hired obviously was somebody that we didn't know.

We did our best to background check and everything.

But at the end of the day, when you have a child and for those of you who have

a child will probably relate to this, you can never trust somebody too much.

You can, no matter who that person is, you always have this fear in the back

of your mind that somehow they might not take care of your kid properly or

they might do something to hurt them.

So you always like in this constant state of worry, at least I was.

And it came to a point where my husband and I sat down and we've decided

that this wasn't working anymore.

I needed to be with my kid.

He only goes through that age once and those years were going to pass by so

quickly and I could always rebuild my practice if need be at a later time.

It definitely was not an easy decision but it was one that was

important for our family at the time.

So I closed shop basically.

I closed my law practice at the time, closed my office down

and became a stay-at-home mom.

I loved it because obviously I was spending a lot of time with my child,

but I was bored out of my mind.

One, because there was nobody in that state that I knew and I could talk to

at least to spend some time with two, because up to that point, I have always

been a person who worked throughout college, throughout law school.

I have always worked, so it was a little.

Weird or and unusual for me to be home.

And the only thing I had to do was be a housewife and a mom.

I love that, but I needed a little bit more.

So in order for me to, not to go start crazy at the time

I've decided to start a blog.

I was familiar with blogging just because I've done it long time

ago while I was in high school.

It was something that I've done at the time.

I've decided to start a blog.

I've researched what were people talking about?

What were some topics that people were talking about and interested?

And I came across a lot of mom blogs at the time.

Moms talking about their lives with their children, like posting

photos sometimes doing affiliate marketing by writing articles,

recommending products and services.

So I figured, hey, why not?

All I do nowadays is mommying, right?

I'm a mom and I'm not doing anything outside of this, so

I might as well start a mom.

And I think I'm trying to remember the name of the mom blog I started

and I can't, it's not something about mommy being right.com or I

don't know, I hope I'll remember, probably come to me at some point.

But I started a mom blog.

It didn't take long for that to fail just because I realized.

What I was talking about wasn't something that I was excited about.

I started sprinkling that mom block with a few things here and there.

In my about section, I talked about the fact that I was a full-time

attorney, turn stay at home mom, and then something magical happened.

I had people reaching out to me via.

On that blog or in a comment section and asking me questions about legal topics

when it comes to blogging, when it comes to online businesses in general.

And I'll be honest, sometimes I knew the answers and sometimes I didn't.

But what I did know was where to look for those responses, how to get to the answer,

just because of your critical analysis and critical thinking and knowing the

law and researching law and all of that.

So little by little, more and more people started asking me legal

questions, and then I would get comments such as, what are you doing?

Talking about mom topics or creating a mom blog when so many of us need an attorney

in this space to tell us how to run our businesses, how to protect our businesses.

So that got me thinking.

And I started researching.

I realized that what they said was true.

There are a lot of business attorneys out there, but majority of those

business attorneys concentrate on traditional businesses.

Brick and mortar type of businesses where you have a physical location

where you know, maybe you need some kind of a permit or a license to start

doing your business and all of that.

However, there was a huge shortage for attorneys who were knowledgeable

about online businesses.

So that one thing led to another.

I started researching.

I started actively learning and I started experimenting on my own

websites, on my own online businesses.

And little by little I realized that, hey, I have become an

actual online business attorney.

I knew more about online businesses at that point and how to keep it

legit, how to make sure they were legally protected than I knew about

any other legal topic trust me.

I know a lot about other topics, but online business was something that I

became very passionate about very quickly.

So I just, del.

Into that topic headfirst.

And I never quite recovered from that.

I'm still in that mode.

I love online businesses because I believe this change from

traditional businesses to this more hybrid or online only businesses

gave a lot of people opportunities that they didn't have before.

They.

People such as stay-at-home moms, for example, for one thing to be able

to start and run their businesses from the comfort of their own homes.

They gave professionals who had day jobs, but maybe dreamt about quitting those day

jobs one day and following their passion, they gave those people the opportunity to

start that business on a side and grow it and scale it, and then one day quit that

day drop that they were miserable at.

And so online.

Is definitely something that.

Speaks to me.

It is a passion of mine and personally, I have two online

businesses outside of my law firm.

So if you count my law firm, it's three.

And my law firm, by the way, is completely virtual too.

I do have an address, a physical address, and if somebody wants to meet with

me in person, I can make that happen.

But my preference is to just keep everything virtual because it's much

easier to work with somebody virtually.

And besides my clients are all over the world, all over the United

States and the world, so it's easier, obviously, and almost a requirement

to meet with them virtually.

I went all in on this virtual workspace idea way before Covid hit.

So to be honest with you, when Covid.

Everything's shutting down and all of that.

It didn't really affect me too much because I was already

completely online and virtual.

So my work just continued as it was before.

Now throughout this like process and stages of me researching and learning

the law and trying to figure out how to protect this online businesses, or

what were some things that set online businesses apart from traditional

businesses, I've realized that I should create my own website and

I should concentrate on talking about online businesses strict.

So that led me to start my website.

At the time it was called Freelance and marketing.com.

Horrible name, horrible url.

I will never forgive myself for picking that, it was the first

thing that came to mind and I picked that and I rolled with that.

I just wanted to get.

Started now it's called maryam saurian.com.

I have recently rebranded because my business is shifting a lot.

There's all these amazing things that are happening and I'll

share them with you later on.

But I started a website and obviously it had a blog component

to that, and I started talking.

All kinds of legal topics that were relevant for online businesses, for

entrepreneurs, for coaches and little by little it took a life of its own.

I started making connections with some strategic people in the industry.

They were bloggers, they were coaches, e-commerce owners who had audiences.

And as a result, what ended up happening is, This people started recommending

my information, my blog posts to their audiences in their Facebook group

Facebook groups in their memberships.

So whenever somebody needed actual information on a particular

topic, if I had a blog post on it, they would come and read it.

If I didn't have a blog post on that topic, I would get an email

from them asking me to create one on that particular topic.

So little by little I developed a reputation in this space.

Then the next natural progression, came to my legal contract templates.

At the time I didn't have my shop, I believe this is back in 2018 I started

getting inquiries from my audience Miriam, can you create a privacy policy?

Or Miriam, we found this online, but I don't know if it's a good one to use.

I use this generator, or I copy and pasted somebody else's privacy policy.

Can you see if I can use that?

Immediately.

This is a no, you cannot copy paste somebody else's privacy policy to

use a copyright infringement on top of not knowing whether that

privacy policy is good or not.

But this is how it all came about.

They started wanting contracts, policies more advanced things such as collaboration

agreements, NDAs, and whatnot.

My blogging.

In the online business space, led my audience to ask for contract.

I ended up creating an entire shop full of contract and policy templates.

I opened it up to the public, to the audience, and as they

say, the rest is history.

This is how my journey has begun in this online.

Fast forward now several years later.

I have several online courses.

I have a shop full of digital products contracts and policies, and I still

have my website full of a lot of block posts that I keep adding

onto on hopefully after this point.

To be really frank with you, I took about a year and a half of break from this part.

Portion of my business, everything was still there for everyone.

People could buy the contracts and they did, but I didn't actively promote

it, market it or create anything new for it because for the past, like

two years or so, I was heavily cons.

And trading on building up my law firm side of the business.

And now that I feel like my law firm's okay, it's doing well on its own.

I don't need to constantly feed it.

I, it obviously requires attention, but it's not the same

as when I was just starting out.

So it's doing okay now on its own.

I figured it's good time for me to go back and concentrate.

Business, this is when that shift happened.

I decided I have let things go for quite some time.

Sometimes no change is not a good thing.

Sometimes you need change.

You need shift in direction.

And that happened because when I started primarily in the beginning of my

journey, my audience was predominantly composed of beginner blogger.

However, in the recent years there was a shift, especially because of my law

firm, because my law firm concentrated on helping six to seven figure coaches

con course creators and entrepreneurs.

Because of that, the audience that started coming into my, this online

business space were also the same people that were coming to my law firm.

So my this one right now that I've rebranded and instead of

freelance and marketing.com, it became maryam saurian.com.

My audience for that has started getting more and more, six to seven figure

coaches, consultant course creators.

So I, I figured it's time I start creating products and services for that audience

as well, because what I have up to.

Served well for beginners beginner bloggers, beginner online business owners

beginner e-commerce business owners.

But right now, the shift is that I'm trying to create content for my current

audience, which is I would say about 70.

5% comprised of coaches, course creators and consultants who are

in multi six to seven figure range.

So this is where the shift for my business came about that right

now, that's what I'm working on.

In fact, my website is being rebuilt.

It's being redesigned.

My products are getting.

Facelift they're being updated.

The policy are being kept up to date at all times.

So with that said I am basically moving in a completely new direction and I'm

excited to see where this is heading.

I should have something really exciting to share with you in about a month and a.

Time.

I won't say much about that right now, but in about a month and a half

I'll share something amazing with you.

So yeah this is me, basically, this is how I came to be.

This is how my online business was born.

This is how I started working with online businesses, entrepreneurs providing the

services that I provide pro offering them the digital products that I created.

So that was the beginning of my journey.

That was how I started, but that's not where I'm going.

I'm definitely going up and I hope you're coming with me.

So I wanna hear from you.

I'd love it if you sent me an email.

Miriam derian.com or when you go to the website of my podcast when

you click on a link, you'll see that there is a comment section.

You're welcome to leave me comments as well.

I wanna hear from you.

I wanna hear how you started in your journey into this.

Space.

What prompted you to take that first step and actually start on your business?

Create something out of thin air, basically.

So tell me a little about you.

I really wanna connect and I wanna know my audience as much as possible.

Great talking to you.

As always, I'll talk to you in a couple of days.