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It's crazy cuz it's it's like a pandemic.

Yeah.

You would, you would think, you know, like we're just, we're

just talking about it just now.

Before you went live here.

Right.

It's like we shouldn't see these numbers.

These, these shouldn't exist.

Right, right.

This is I was looking at 20 19, 2 36.

Now this is only police, I believe.

Cause I looked up a.

The just kinda like, for police suicides, unfortunately.

And that's in 2019, 236.

And right now as it stands from what it looks like, 1 37, they're

talking about like, someone's probably gonna say, well, it's a lot

less, shouldn't be up there at all.

It shouldn't be a thing.

I shouldn't have to like go on here and look to see.

Cause I shouldn't, you know, no one, no one should.

It seems like it's easier to find the, the statistics behind the losses a

lot easier than it is to find solution.

Yeah.

The help.

Right.

And granted, I mean, I think we're going places we have made changes.

Yeah.

You know, we've made progress to what it used to be.

Mm-hmm.

even last year alone.

, well

progress with the phone number too, right?

Mm-hmm.

the phone number used to be, and you know, I always thought about that too.

Like that number is really long.

Who's gonna remember that and who's gonna save that in their phone?

Just to be like, yeah.

Just in case one day say one day I decide, you know?

Yeah.

No, no one thinks like that.

So, I mean, so we know here the number you can text or call 9 8 8 9

8 8.

Yeah.

I mean, you, for an emergency you call 9 1 1.

Mm-hmm.

. Yeah, for help.

or information you called?

Not emergencies.

Here you call three 11.

Yeah.

For information you call at least, I don't know if it still exists, but four 11.

Four 11, yeah.

You

know, should have been the thing, you know, for a while.

Like, yeah, it should have changed a long time ago.

It shouldn't have took this long.

It shouldn't took this many deaths for it to change.

Right.

And I don't know, is that like the organization, I'm sure the

National Suicide Prevention outline.

I mean, I'm sure that's a project they've been working on forever and

there's probably a lot of loopholes and politics behind it, but, Yeah, it

shouldn't, it should have been the the foundation from the start, so, yeah.

But anyway welcome back with infant lines.

My name is Vince and with me today I have Armando Buso.

Hello, everyone.

Like I rolled my arms on that one.

Yeah, I did like this.

Nice.

Yeah, it's real nice.

Oh, wow.

Do it one more time.

, Vince: man.

It's a one time thing.

It's been a long time since I've seen you, man.

Yeah, it's been it's been a few months.

I think it's,

Yeah, it was a rough couple months.

Lot, lot of things going on, I think on

everybody's perspective.

, you know, for the good, the bad.

Mm-hmm.

challenging the easy mm-hmm.

. But here we are.

I think this was a, another impromptu episode.

Yes.

You know, we've, we've done, well we we're sitting on a recording right now middle

of editing and we're gonna release that.

And recent circumstances have made us wanna sit down for this episode.

Yeah.

Unfortunately.

And make this a priority.

So this is a a short for us, but.

nonetheless, something that's crucial and is to acknowledge the elephant

in the room, which is mental health, which is suicide prevention, which

is the loss that we've encountered or losses we've encountered.

Yeah.

Nationwide.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So a buddy of mine from my former department, unfortunately

you know, committed a suicide.

I don't, you know, and I don't like to say it like that, but it, it, you know,

it, it caught us off, off, off guard.

Just, it, it just came outta nowhere, you know?

And now this guy is, this guy was awesome.

This guy was hilarious.

This guy.

just always there and, you know, looked at the good stuff.

You know, he was a veteran and police officer.

And I think most importantly, he was a great father.

I saw a lot of his videos and pictures, stuff on the internet, you

know, he was a great dude, you know?

Mm-hmm.

it's a, it's for sure a loss.

I mean, anytime you lose something like that, it's a loss, but this for sure hurt

a lot of, And yeah, and it sucks because I know I lost contact with him a little

bit, you know, throughout the years after I left and to where I'm at now.

But that guy was always, you know, he would, me and him would share Snapchats

about cigars, so that was cool.

So he still talked a little bit here and there.

But like, you, it, you know, I feel for his partners, his two

partners that he worked with that were like they were, they are.

Hi.

They are his best friends.

I feel for those guys, cuz I don't know how they're doing it, you

know, one day here, one day not.

Yeah, it's rough

man.

It's a, it's a domino effect, you know?

It's, yeah.

And I, I don't wanna seem this, I don't wanna make it seem like this

episode's coming off dark and.

Challenging, but it is a dark and challenging conversation.

Yeah.

But I think nonetheless, it's it needs to be addressed whenever

it encounters or it occurs.

And I think we're making progress with it as an organization here

who's we're focused on bringing that light back into mental health,

starting the conversation early.

You know, we're, we're aspiring to go out to these academies, law

enforcement, fire, ems maybe someday going into the, the military.

And just starting the conversation to our con our, our candidates.

In the essence of, like, my frustration is that in, in almost every academy

or every agency that I partake in, the basic training you wanna call

the mentation Express was like, don't bring your problems home.

and you always thinking like, okay, I guess so, and that kind of makes

sense cause maybe your family doesn't really understand or they're not

gonna be completely able to understand what you, what you've encountered.

But not bringing your problems home makes you ignore those problems.

Yeah.

And then try to swallow those problems.

And then you find it that within a year or a couple months,

couple weeks, couple years.

, those problems re arise and has caused a greater issue.

Right.

Or a day.

Or a day.

Yeah.

Or a day.

Yeah.

A couple hours, who knows?

Yeah.

And we could act like we are.

Okay.

And we could act like, you know, we're trying to protect our family

by not showing them our weaknesses.

But they already know, you know, the many you showed up to the

home, you know, they already know that you've had a challenging day.

Your body language, your demeanor.

Yep.

You know, so my response and part of my language is, fuck.

, bring it home, you know?

Yeah.

Address it.

As soon as you get off shift, even while you're on shift, you know, have

that conversation with your partner, with your peers those involved.

You know, be the inspiration, be the, the guidance.

And then remember that you need guidance as well, regardless of how

many years on the job you've had.

Every circumstance is different.

Every situation is different.

I don't know what that officer.

completely was going through.

I mean, I, I know we have a, an an idea, but that's between him and, and, and the

rest that's going on to truly understand.

But yeah, I truly believe this is preventable.

You know,

I think talking has always been the thing that many people don't wanna

do, because I think we've talked about this in the past couple podcasts or

something, but, It seemed as a weakness, as a weak, like spot, as a weakness

to talk about it as men, you know, not so much as anybody, but as men.

I mean, it could be, I'm not saying it's not hard for women, but I

think it's like, I think it's especially harder for men, you know?

And as you, as you were just talking about it right now, you, you were mentioning it,

hopefully one day we go into like, talk to candidates, you know, at academies,

you know, police or fire, whatever it may.

What about, what if they're prior military, they're

bringing that into the mm-hmm.

with them to, you know, now they're gonna stack on top the job of police or fire,

you know, or medical, you know, ems.

So they definitely don't know who to talk to at that point.

If they're even allowed to talk to, right.

Like, if they say, oh, don't leave it behind you behind, or

leave it here, leave it there.

Don't take it home.

Well, they have something else extra that they've been holding onto.

So what, what are they gonna.

You know, you take that and become stack it on top of something else.

Recall, now you're really bubbling it up.

What, what are you supposed to do?

So we need to normalize the effect that it's okay not to be okay.

We need to normalize that.

We need to say and let others need to say and let others

know that, hey, it's okay man.

You can talk to me or I can talk to you.

And that's the thing we're trying to strive to as well.

Like, we're open here.

This podcast is open.

We're new.

What do you mean?

That we, we have resources that you, we, you can reach out to us and we can give

you resources or you can even talk to us.

Mm-hmm.

, you can call us.

We have, we have some numbers set up and one of us will pick up.

Cause it's not just me and Vince here.

We have a bunch of members or that got there already.

Those guys are ready to talk to you.

And recently we just got another guy to join honors and my friend, you know?

Mm-hmm.

he's a, he's a deacon, but he's also a first responder.

And he was in, he's a veteran.

. So, and he's been through it all.

He was telling me a couple days ago when I was telling to him about it,

so he offered his services, says anytime, and he plays, give him a call.

Mm-hmm.

. So he's on there, you know, I'm just saying like, there's, there's people

you can talk to because we're here and, and we've been through your,

we've been in, we're in your shoes.

We've been in your shoes, and we know what's going on because we're first

responders as well related, related.

and we have someone for everyone, right?

We have, we have military, we have police, we have fire, we have ems, we have nurses.

You know, dispatchers.

Dispatchers as well.

You know, and we're here, man.

You know, anything.

Yeah.

No, you said it's, it's normalizing.

You know, it's the attempt to try to try to bring the calm back into the situ.

. And like I said, I think some of the feedback I get from our viewers is a

mindset of like, Hey, I mean, you guys should publish more episodes or y'all

are just trying to push out more content.

We're missing you guys, which is phenomenal.

Like, I, I love seeing that we actually have a followership, you know, , that

one person,

somebody is kidding.

Hayden, no , that we actually have people that are listening but to know.

, we also, or I guess this is my opportunity, our, our opportunity to

express what else we got going on.

You know, it's more than just behind the mic.

Mm-hmm.

, you know, there's, there's a plethora of things that we've aimed and

thrived to do with this organization.

We kind of touched base that we're, we're reaching out these academies

and, and you know, even if it's given us an hour, and I guess there's a

specific academy that's actually been listening to our podcast religiously.

Nice.

For content and for education, you know, so we're, we're gonna be

coordinated with them to possibly have a live show at their facility with

their students to give them a chance to be part of the conversation live.

You know, we're also

doing actual podcast for like, IMED to get Yup.

Kane so.

although we don't publish more often, I think that a lot of our episodes are

very strategically made and you know, they're gonna be put out for certain

situations or like a fortune situation like today, or, you know, just training.

There's a big one for us, you know?

Mm-hmm.

. So that's what we're working on.

And of course we're working on getting more episodes here and there, you know,

within the week or a couple weeks or the month, whatever it is that we're working.

To put those episodes out, but we're also giving you like really good content.

You know, it's not just like, yeah, tomorrow let's talk

about something and then Yeah.

What'd you add today?

Oh, I had a black coffee.

What'd you have for lunch today?

Yeah, another black coffee.

Right?

. But like, we want, we want these episodes to mean something and actually be.

Relatable to people and actually have some type of content or some

type of something that we can give you, you know, yes, we out yes.

Whether it be this right now talking or would it be some type of safety?

Everything you can have like safety isn't like something you can do at work.

Safety related, you know.

Sure.

Or training.

Right.

And we're also working on that.

We're also working on videos about training, so tips and

tricks and what that stuff

like that.

Yep.

Yeah.

There's a lot, lot more behind the mic.

You know, like I said, a question we get lot is how many viewers do you.

, you know, what's your followship like?

And I mean, I have the means to be able to look that up, you know?

But I think I neglect that side of the platform because that

doesn't really mean anything to me.

You know, you could talk about a number.

I think the numbers we're looking for is the people who respond to our show with

emails or people who call our business.

just to have a conversation or, you know, the amount of followers that have actually

said, Hey, can I be part of the cadre?

Yeah.

You know, that's, that's like the win, you know, we have individuals actually

admit and acknowledge that they're struggling and they seek help through us.

Like that's the number I count, and that's the number I I, I look for

as currency, so to speak, you know?

Yeah.

. I mean, and granted, I wish, I wish all of us here could do this full-time.

You know, would it be great to be able to say we're pushing out an episode a week?

A hundred percent.

Yeah.

I think we're doing more quality sort of quantity.

I think that's kind of the way you can think about it, right?

So

Right.

Purpose, meaning, right.

You know?

Yeah.

What's the what's the reason behind it, you know?

, but in recent events, you know, like, yeah, it's, it's a challenging time.

Especially the holidays, you know?

Yeah.

I think that's always been a challenging time of the year.

And has there been change in resources?

Yeah, sure.

Like I said, the, the three digit number for the National Suicide Prevention

Hotline of 9 88, you know, call, tax call or chat box on their website,

you know, it's a resource for them.

They have a Veterans Channel now as.

Which is huge, you know, and it's an easier number to remember.

Yeah.

You know, and I see, I hear it on radio shows.

I see it come across tv and it's just, like you said, it's

normalizing this conversation, you know, but there, there still needs

to be more resources out there.

We talk a lot about, you know, there's a lot of programs out there that help

you acknowledge whether or not you have mental disorders or mental challenges.

You know, they at least say, Hey, here are the signs and symptom.

, but then there's nothing out there.

It really says, what do you do from here on out?

You know, what do you do in long term, you know, short term, a month,

a couple days, years, a decade?

You know, how do you cope and how do you deal with it?

And and another part of it, and I've gotten her permission

to talk about it lightly.

You know, we're, we're still not gonna disclose full information,

but we're working with families, you know, significant.

You know, there's a family out there who, whose husband is a

veteran, is going through ptsd.

T S D as you know, is, is going through the challenging times, has unfortunately

succumbeded to the the alcohol habit.

And what we are gonna do is we're approached by this family is you know, go

make contact and go find this individual and, and just normalize this, the stigma,

you know, the side to break the stigma to.

, you know, let's talk, let's, let's figure this out.

You know, let's make this a a brotherhood.

And that's what we do and that's what we thrive for.

Yeah.

I think the, with that said, like you had said we're also working on things to

make it easier for you guys to contact us for that reason or for any other reason.

So like one of the, like our phone number is (844) 782-9985.

That's 8 4 4 7 8 2 9 9 8.

The interesting part about that number is that one of us is gonna pick

up and it's gonna go, like, it'll, it'll ring until someone picks up.

Am I, am I correct, Vince?

Yep.

It'll, it'll cycle through the cadre members, you know, and then granted, there

may be a time of the day or whatever that not all the cadre members are available or

none of the cadre members are available.

But it gives you a chance to leave a voicemail and we, we follow it pretty

religiously and make sure we're following up with those individuals who call.

But that just shows that we are trying to make this into a team organization.

Yeah.

Where you can reach out to one of us and let's say you call us and you need

somebody of a military background, you know, but let's say buso yourself,

you know, with the ems, fire, and law.

Yeah.

There may be an individual who you, you pick up and says, Hey, I need military.

you'll be able to further this, this conversation by trying to reach out

to one of us who are military Yeah.

Or our partnering organizations such as first help.org the 9 88 hotline,

you know, and, and other agencies.

Yeah.

Really dependent on where that individual lives.

Yeah.

We're gonna help you out.

We're gonna get you who you need and even someone talk to and like, our friend.

Jumped on to become part of the podcast.

He's a, he's done the serv.

He's a first responder.

Like I said, he's a veteran and he is also a deacon.

So, you know, he, he's done, he's done it all a little bit here, there too.

So he's, he's been through a lot of things.

So, you know, if you're like in really religious, you know, you can talk to him.

You know, he got, he's like a chaplain almost.

Nice.

So, . Yeah.

So at one point he was looking into being a chaplain for

something else that I was doing.

He would say, Hey, I can be your chaplain.

I'll say, we'll take it.

You know?

Sure.

So that's, that's good to know.

Sure.

He's a good guy.

So I know he is, been through a, a few things and he was giving me information

at time, so.

Sure.

And the other side of the house is that we are sent up these

events, you know, come, uh mm-hmm.

, I have to talk to Tyler cuz this is, this is his niche of the house.

You know, we're setting up a fishing.

, it's gonna happen in March of next year.

Yes.

And it'll be out Michigan.

And the goal is to get multiple charters where we kind of

build up on multiple teams.

Make it a little competitive, you know, veterans versus law, or

veterans versus ems and this and that.

And you know, people go out fishing, they pick up a new hobby, they experience

something they haven't experienced before.

And and the day we come back together, we do a cookoff, you

know, we have a little campground.

Brewery, whatever it is.

And, and cigars have, cigars, have a little bonfire and just, you know, chat.

And it doesn't have to be about anything.

It could be about everything.

It could be about, you know, the day-to-day life, or it could be, you know,

the, the deep moments where we're actually opening up to who may be strangers

to us, but wear the same uniform.

Mm-hmm.

, you know, and like I said, when it comes to mental health and, and

speaking on probably behalf for everybody who is a first responder

or veteran, you know, we're.

And we're not gonna be able to talk to someone who's never experienced it.

You know, you know, it's

hard to talk to someone who's never experienced it.

Yeah.

Because even though they have a PhD in whatever it is or whatever it may

be, they've never been in the field.

You know what I'm saying?

They, they'll, they'll, they might even look up stuff saying,

oh, this is how you should feel.

No, no.

You know, we got people who have experience and they're still either on the

job or we're on the job, and they can tell you firsthand, this is what you can do.

This is how I coped with it.

You know, not just someone sitting there with a clip.

or, you know, notepad John's stuff down, and then, oh, come back next week

and I'll tell you how this is . Yeah.

I never,

you know, yeah.

We are our greatest assets, you know, we're the greatest tools to our mental

health, our physical health, you know.

And that's what we gotta do is just, just continue this conversation,

continue our, our guidance and our aspirations here to you all and say you.

Although we may be hit or miss about what dates we release these episodes.

And not always consistent, but our phone line and our email and our social

medias, you know, those are consistent.

Consistent.

And we have a connection, you know, where we're able to respond to you all.

. And even if it's just like, you know, Hey, I have a training idea or a topic you

wanna talk about, or a question, you know, I have people write up to me and say, Hey,

what do you think about this protocol?

Who recently changed ketamine?

And you all know by now that I very passionate about Vince loves ketamine.

I'm very compassionate about it and I love seeing it that we have these

viewers, you know, fall along with our conversations, you know, and

yeah, that's, that's what we're aiming for and that's what we thrive for.

So stay tuned.

We're, we're able to talk to you a little more about these.

These events that we're going to, especially in March, you know,

we're gonna be, so figuring out some of the logistics behind it.

Yeah.

We're, we are gonna be recording an episode shortly with another agency who

we are gonna be formally partnering with who is gonna be able to, you know, broaden

our resources, our coverage area, and just make the mission overall greater.

You know, and that's gonna be a another foundation who.

, you know, definitely could see some value in what we bring and and vice versa.

And you know, it's all about collaborating to the greater good, which is to you,

the support of you all out there.

Yes.

So, but then it goes, goes, goes family, you know, goes

through your friends as well.

Anybody who is in your life that witnesses your day to day you know,

that's what we could do if we could.

I mean, look at my dogs.

They're probably somewhere in the camera here.

They're slum dogs, you know?

But, Our canines are, are great mental health, you know, so I plan on

bringing one of my dogs over to the academies to show them mental support.

Because you'd be surprised what a dog could do.

Yeah.

To be able to really enlight somebody's day,

you know?

Actually, you know, I think tomorrow, which is I heard something

about having, most likely maybe having a therapy down there.

Yeah, yeah.

Which is, which is awesome.

Yeah.

Latino was one of the canine guys who was like, Hey, I got connections, so, yep.

Maybe I can talk to them and that too.

There you go.

There you go.

See, we're

constantly

working here.

We're start, we're constantly trying.

No, remember that one time we went to when we did the cigars and the gift

cards for the troopers, after that one, trooper, unfortunately did the same thing.

Yes.

He like, and we went out there and you.

Remember?

And, and right away he said, oh, I love dogs.

Yeah.

Because he saw him in the back and just, just popped his head out.

, that was

it.

That was it.

That's sometimes that's the best, best way to to really break the, you know,

or build that connection and break the stigma and just, you know, even if

it's just starting the conversation.

Yeah.

You know?

Yeah.

And yeah, this is where I really hope that we see a lot more engagement,

you know, through our audience.

for those who have appreciated us.

You know, I've, I've, I've recently have had a, a plethora of responses

and people who have been following us just verbally expressing their interest

and they're like, man, you know, you gotta, you gotta put more content.

We're expecting more.

We want more, and this and that.

And it's like, there's a lot going on.

, you know, we have a lot going on, but I'm honored and I'm, I'm, you know,

we take this as a, as a privilege to really be to be here for you all.

But I, I challenge you all to.

Take this next step.

You know, if you listen to this episode and it's a short episode, but

it's hopefully it gets to the point.

Yeah.

You know, reach out to our email at, well, the whole email is stay wtl podcast.us.

Reach out to us and accept the challenge where we're gonna

send you a challenge coin.

Yeah.

You know, we've got these, these

challenge coins.

I think they're almost like temporary coins.

Yeah.

We're gonna get a lot better ones, but we're working.

There's gonna a lot

better ones.

There you go.

And we've talked about these coins before and initially our goal with these coins

was to do this as like a an honorable pat in the back, like good job kind of thing.

You know?

Honestly, real quick, I think there's two sides to this coin.

The way we have it on the floor, literally there's two sides.

Yeah.

Literally.

And the, the back is to honor those who have fallen.

Yes.

And I think the front is to, to show those that we're here and we train and you.

, thank you for doing what you're doing.

And con, you know, like a Congratulations on you doing really good, hard work.

That's how we give 'em out too.

Yes.

That's how you get one in a way.

Yes.

Yes.

But we're gonna extend this to where emailing us mm-hmm.

and we will send you a low care package.

And we want you to take this challenge where you put this in your pocket, you

know, put this in your wallet, put this in your duty bag, and then anytime you

find yourself in a challenging moment and you need a way, you know, you need a way.

Find strength, you need a way to find some sort of support.

You know, this is your token to the show.

Yeah.

Whether it's coming up in person, reaching out to us and being part of one

of our events, or every now and then.

I mean, my cigar lounge is a, or my garage is a formal cigar lounge now.

Right.

Show up and you got one of these coins in your hand.

I mean, that's, you just want your c or want a, want a spot in our couch, you

know, just sit down and join the convers.

Or it's just the saying, Hey, you know, you put your coin on the table, and

that's the non-verbal way of you saying, I gotta, I gotta get help, you know?

Mm-hmm.

. And if, if that's what it takes for us to lower these numbers of the

losses that we are seeing, then yes.

That we're in, you know, , but I really hope we do get these people responding.

I really hope you all are listening to this and say, you know what,

I'll take that a challenge.

As silly as it may sound as cliche or, you know, minute, it may be, I think

somebody out there may take that as a challenge to say, I gotta, I gotta

pay attention to this a little more.

You know, I'm

gonna, I'm gonna say something cause it, it just clicked in my head.

I was actually talking to my daughter a couple.

About a week ago, I was letting her know that you need to ask for help.

I was talking to her in the sense of like, schoolwork, because she struggles.

I mean, I, I struggled a lot in school, but I think that this works in the real

world because no one is really gonna come up to you all the time and say,

do you need some help with something?

Especially to a man, right?

So what you need to do is you need to.

and, and I tell her like this, but like, raise your hand.

Or in our case, put the coin down, right?

And say, Hey, I need help.

No, I, I, I need help with whatever it is that's going on.

I need help.

So if you guys, women, men out there, you need help, man, reach out.

Don't you know, and I was telling her, because she's, you know, I'm like, if

you're gonna do it in school and you're gonna raise your hand, I have a question.

I need help.

People are gonna be that stupid.

You're stupid as dumb.

Why'd you ask that question?

You know?

Maybe you're embarrassed of asking that question.

Don't be embarrassed to answer that question.

Don't be embarrassed to ask for help.

Don't be embarrassed in any way.

You know when you need it.

You know, because you know what?

It could be a domino effect in a good way.

If you need help, maybe somebody else needs help as well.

Sure.

Then they see you going to get help.

Maybe they're gonna go get help.

Yeah.

So don't be embarrassed.

Don't care about what other people.

because you're this big person or something, you know?

It's like, man, that guy needs help.

Maybe that guy needs help and someone else needs help.

So don't be afraid to ask for help.

Yeah, I like that.

If Buso could say it, then you all could live it.

I mean, man,

me and her had like a moment now.

Sure.

Yeah.

But yeah, cause it's hard.

It's not easy, man.

It really isn't.

It's really not, man.

It's really not.

, you know, but at the, at the same point, I mean, we talk about all these

resources and maybe the lack thereof.

Yeah.

But we've got them right in front of us, you know, our partners.

Mm-hmm.

, our peers, you know, and even our family.

So this could be extended out to the family members as well.

You know, you see, you wanna be partake of this this challenge.

Come email us, we'll send you a challenge coin.

, you know, cause you, you'd be a Zoom call.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You'd be surprised.

You'd be surprised.

I and I, if, if she listens to the show, I'm, I'm pretty sure she knows

exactly that I'm talking about her.

This is kind of a movement of your sacrifices and your efforts and

your challenging times as well.

You know, recent conversation I had with her, and, and this is a spouse of

a, a veteran who's going through PTSD is I told her I was like, before the

conversation, then it's like, you know, I'm gonna say I, I respect your spouse.

I respect, you know, the, the, the individual that we're talking

about, who I still need to further meet in, in this challenging times.

And I will always say that I will honor our first responders and our military

personnel, but I also wanna make sure we take the time to acknowledge and honor

our spouses and our family members.

Because if anybody has it hard, they have the hardest.

Yeah.

You know, there are times where they don't know what they're walking.

They, they're kind of left in the dust.

They're kind of left in the quiet, in the dark.

And there's not resources out there for family members to

really regain the strength.

You know, there's no, you know, there's 9 88 for this, the National

Suicide Prevention, but there's also, you know, is there a lot of

organizations meant for family Yeah.

In what they can do.

Mm-hmm.

, you know, so because of that recent conversation with her, it's kind

of made me say, we're gonna really, really gonna pay attention to family.

Someday have this episode or this podcast release an episode where it's

our family members on the break, our spouses, talking about our problems.

Problems and our challenges and what they

go through, what they don't like.

Yeah.

. Vince: Right.

You know, but that's that's, that's really it.

You know, it's really the, that's just normalize this,

make this a everyday thing.

Yeah.

You know, so take us up on this challenge.

If you like the show, you like the content, you like what we're doing.

You've seen us in person.

I hope we see you.

If you've utilized our resources, I hope you continue to utilize it.

But if you really see some, some benefit out this show, then

email us at Stay at wtl podcast.

Tell us you're accepting a challenge.

We will get your information and we'll send you out a care package,

which I'm sure is gonna be a lot more than just a challenge.

Yeah, no, we got some stuff, . We got some cool stuff.

Reach out to us at our phone number as you want.

That's 8 4 4 7 8.

99.

85.

Also Oregon

as, yeah.

8 44 stay wtl.

Oh yeah.

8 44 Stay wt.

I worked hard to get that number.

, Bucio: I'm sorry.

I apologize.

I sometimes it's hard for me.

Right, right.

I need to see those numbers now, but yeah.

Right, right.

Stay.

Was it 8 44?

Stay wtl.

Now it would be great if we had our own three digit number, but we're,

that's probably gonna be a while.

Yeah.

In a while.

, Bucio: but you could also,

Nine eighty eight.

Yes.

Text or call that number if you need it.

Yes.

And then you can still reach your toes on social media as well.

Yes.

WTO podcast.

Yes.

Yes.

You know, we have a lot of things going on in the background.

Yeah.

And at some point we're gonna be transparent and tell you the progress and

where we're going and what we've done.

You know, I, it's a lot of exciting stuff.

It is.

It

really is.

It's, it's really cool.

Like,

dude, it really is.

Talk about your first episode here.

You know, the first time you came on this show.

Way different from then to now.

It's like what?

We have a new

desk too, right?

We

got a new,

Setup, new desk here, A new setup.

But yeah, no, we got some good stuff, man.

Really good stuff.

Mm-hmm.

, Vince: so.

Mm-hmm.

. And if you see yourself, you know, partaking in our mission, you could also

reach out to possibly join the team.

Mm-hmm.

via what?

Gather at wt.

Sorry, my fault.

. Vince: Oh man.

This is how long he's been off the show.

No,

it's, well, it's, yeah, it's Kare wtl podcast us.

Yes.

I forgot the US part.

Okay.

Yeah, that was the one I was like, wait, yeah.

What?

Kare wtl podcast us?

Yes.

That's if you wanna be part of the show and be part of the Kare, which is,

we'll explain to you more of you email

lessons put there.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, you know, there's a lot of tasks behind this and there's some

responsibility, you know, and whatnot.

We're looking for like-minded individuals who are inspired

and aspired to help others.

Yes.

To help with leadership, help training.

They have a teaching ability that they wanna do, you know, so.

Sure.

Or if you're a video editor, we're also looking for video.

Yeah.

If you know how to edit content, you know, that would definitely help.

Yes.

Yeah.

Just producers.

No, but we're, we're looking for that.

That's, that's what we're trying to do.

You know, we're doing a lot in person.

. I don't know if you guys

know all this, but Vince does like pretty much everything.

. I don't, he's literally the, I dunno.

No.

Well he, he does the editing, he does the microphones, sets him up.

You know, he gets the context to have people come in.

You know, one, once I leave here, I'm sure he is not going to sleep.

That's why he has a coffee in his front, you know, . So he does a lot.

You know, we try to help him out as best we can.

Half the times, there's just stuff that we don't even know yet.

Right.

So we're trying to figure that out.

Right.

And then, yeah.

Yep.

So, yeah.

Well, you got here today to catch up with me, like, so how's everything going?

I'm like, I don't even know where to begin.

You didn't

tell me anything.

He just looked at me like, eh, . I was like, eh, little

teardrop comes on my eyes.

I don't know what's going on.

But yeah.

No, it's exciting, man.

This has been a, a project that I've, I'm really committed to and

I'm really compassionate about, you know, but it's, it's nonetheless, , it

wouldn't be where it is now if it weren't for the help of the cadre.

You know?

And, and I see this as our show, our mission, you know, and you

are the viewer, the listener.

This is your mission and it's just to to be part of it.

That's right.

So we're looking for individuals, we're looking for, for people

to, you know, join the team.

We're looking for people who want to take the challenge.

You get a cool coin out of it, put it in your back pocket.

Yeah.

And yeah, just be part of this.

This is a great family.

. Yeah, right.

. It's something.

It's something.

And we have cigars.

And we have cigars and a bunch

liquor and, yep, yep, yep.

Yes.

And we go to, we go to ranges and Oh yeah.

Have some good time.

Got some good toys.

Yep.

. Yep.

So what are you carrying

right now?

. But that thing is nice.

Yeah, that thing is nice.

It is nice.

That's nice.

Let's talk about hobbies, right?

I guess we'll finish a show with a little hobby side.

Yeah, right.

We talked about a little, the challenging times, which we are not neglecting

and I'm not trying to push past it.

We're

not trying to make this episode like kind of dark

or anything in that matter.

We wanna let you know that even though we're here for you

guys and you know, losing that friend of mine, that's not cool.

You know, that's, that sucks.

You know, we're just trying to end it in a good note, not in a bad note, you

know, and just let you know, you know, we're talking about hobbies cuz if

you have a hobby sometimes that helps.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You know, has a hobby of owning hobby, a bunch of stuff that Right.

he hasn't even used yet.

Yeah.

I like, I like shooting, you know, I like my range time front.

I got a flame thrower.

Yes, indeed.

I'm just into that stuff, man.

I'm into the cool stuff, you know, and doing it responsibly obviously, but,

you know, I'm into when I have other people who don't know how to clean their

shotguns, you know, they come, bring it here and I, I like, you know, I like

taking the time to really suit up somebody else with a, you know, a cool toy.

Yeah.

You know, and, Oh yeah, he definitely did that.

Yes,

I definitely did appreciate that.

Yeah.

She had a rusty shotgun, you know, but my everyday, listen,

that was a, that was a freak accident.

It's not rusty anymore.

Your face was a freak accident, , you can't change that.

All right.

Exactly.

You know, that's what we're doing.

I got a little station in my, my studio now.

Yeah.

Where it's just a gun cleaning and you know, accessorizing, whatever.

And it's just, that's my hobby.

That's my pickup.

You know, my, my outlet is going to the gym, you know, and I think

I, I really pay, I really work that, that monthly membership, man.

Oh, you worked me that

one time.

I hate you for, yeah, that was a year.

Was it?

Was that the last time I worked out a year ago?

? Vince: I hope not.

But it was the last time you went out with me, man.

Yeah.

First hand

last.

I think that's the first and last time.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Other than in the whole he tried to kill me with I don't even remember.

I think that was a little Daz.

I had to drive home

that day too.

, you drive home in tears.

Cried in my car for an hour and a half before I left, but

fitness is key in my mind.

You know, that is it.

It releases endorphins.

. Huh?

What?

Yeah.

N fq . N fq.

Never fucking quit.

It releases endorphins.

It makes you stronger.

And then, I mean, listen to our next podcast, the one we're

about to release here shortly.

We recorded last week.

You know, we, we gave you a challenge of of doing pushups on

the show, and we talked about what the effects of physical fitness.

They did a

study on that too, a while.

Man.

Some, some like Harvard kids or something.

They say that they really helps out.

Yes.

Even pushups.

Just like get on the floor.

20 pushers.

Yeah.

And it, it's like, I mean, yeah, you, but there's other things.

If, if you work out and you don't like to go hit the gym with weights

and stuff, you can do other things.

Mm-hmm.

, you know, like I do like mixed martial arts or something, you know, like

that's still getting the body going.

You know,

sweating is detox.

Yeah.

You know, that's, I don't know.

And then you find, you find yourself building relationships

within the gym community.

Yeah.

You know, you see that one guy or gal that you've, you've happened to be working out

at the same time and you're like, oh yeah.

What you working on?

And then you just start having a conversation and you find

yourself helping each other out.

You know, and it's just building that camaraderie, you know?

But why can't we take that camaraderie into our everyday careers?

Hmm.

You know?

How cool would it be to be able to say that we have a first

responder, Jim, who you know?

Yeah.

You know, I've always thought about that.

Cuz you think about it like this, the police officer, you're coming off work.

Where do you put your duty?

or gun you're carrying, right?

Yeah.

A lot of guys, you want me in the cars or what if, but that's like,

ah, it's in the back of your head.

Yeah.

Can you leave it at the gym?

Maybe If you had a first responder gym, you could mm-hmm.

. Ah, great.

Yeah.

You a special own key that no one else can have while you, you're working out.

It'd

be so cool to have a gym that has a range.

. Oh, and a smoothie bar.

Yeah,

of course.

You see a guy, it was like Jim Short the smoothie and the rifle.

Where you going?

I'm America.

I'm gonna go for a swim.

With your rifle.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Why?

Go Navy rock

climbing.

That'd be sweet.

Rock climbing.

I love rock climbing.

That's sweet.

That's something I don't think I've ever told you.

No,

you never told

me that.

It's kind of hard now, dude.

No, it's . Nah, I think it's great.

A lot of upper body and and lower body work that that's hard.

Yeah, but that's good.

What is your outlet?

You know?

Yeah.

As you listen to the show, what do you guys do?

Or gals, you know, what is it that you find yourself?

What's a hobby or what's

a workout?

You like work workout style stuff.

You know?

What is your mental.

Yes.

What do you do after a chef?

A hard day.

Yeah.

They get you back on track.

And we hope it's not the bad habits.

We hope it's not.

Yeah.

Finding the bottom of the bottle, you know, it's more so.

The bottom of the water bottle.

Cause you just spent two and a half dollars at the gym.

Right?

Right.

Yeah.

We're not against the, the liquor and the cocktails, but we

just don't want it to consume you.

Exactly.

You know, we want it to have like, eh, I had one Sure.

Right.

With a cigar or we do it here socially.

Oh

yeah.

You know, it's all about the social.

I

think I only drink socially.

I don't think anything.

Yeah,

you haven't really been social for like two months.

But it wasn't my fault . Anyway, that's a whole different

story.

Yeah.

What, what is why don't you give us a, send us a message, maybe comment

on one of our posts with, we'll post something up and then just tell us

what your hobby is or what your outlet is, you know, what do you like to do?

Maybe you'll find someone on there that does something that

you like and there you go.

Right.

Talk to someone else or try something new.

Yeah.

That's a big thing.

You know, I just realized I forgot I had to call.

Call him back.

Oh, is that him?

No, that's not him.

Oh.

Answer it

anyways.

Spam.

Yeah, let's put the spam on Telemarket.

You have to have insurance.

Wouldn't that be funny?

Old?

Yeah, that would be funny.

I've been getting a lot of those spam calls nonstop.

It's it's nonsense.

Ridiculous.

It's crazy.

Yeah.

At this point I just mess with him as much as I can.

Bad.

But

imagine how cool it would be if you were getting like calls from us.

Hey, hey, we're checking in.

See how you doing?

Or Hey, we got a new episode.

Hey, don't good.

You know, the challenge, you know, like a little you get those

text updates, like inspirational quotes, like other organization.

I know.

Yeah.

I have something.

I know they do it pretty, pretty regularly, which is kind of

pretty, I got something similar.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That'd be kind of cool if you were able to progress into that side of the world.

Not there yet.

We'll see, how's your day going?

Oh, yeah.

How's your day going?

And you can actually respond to it.

Yeah.

So we're gonna be moving this podcast into another platform, and then we've

tried a little bit here, but you know, we're keep dabbling on the idea of live.

Yeah, they talking live.

Yeah.

Yeah.

To have like people comment or talk while we're, we're it'd be sweet recording and

we could actually be engaged with 'em.

Yeah.

You know, or bringing this show to the academies.

, Bucio: get an idea.

Yeah.

I mean, I think we've done it already.

Or maybe if they wanna send us an email Yeah.

Or a message on like Instagram or something of a question that they have.

Yeah.

And then we can talk about that one day.

Sure.

Yeah.

And even if they want to, we can call them and they can be on

the show for like a few minutes.

So there's something else right there.

Yeah, there.

See, we're always thinking.

We're always thinking.

We're always doing stuff.

Yes, yes, yes.

But I think that'd be great people.

But that wraps up today's show.

Yes.

You know, ultimately this is a a brief or a short episode.

Just a reminder that we have your six and your 12, right?

Yes, sir.

It's not just getting your back, but we're also getting your front

and the essence of, we'll help you get where you need to go.

Mm-hmm.

, you know, whether it's trying to find support, trying to find better care,

trying to find better education.

, a hobby, family support, whatever it is.

Just find an outlet and I hope we could be that outlet for you all.

You know, we'll have good times, we'll have challenging times.

We'll have those adventures, we'll have those, those training moments.

But we cannot forget the root of our existence, which is

to be here for mental health.

Yeah.

And unfortunately, we are losing individuals left and.

So we hope that you listen to this episode.

If you find yourself struggling, call us, email us if it's immediate.

Call 9 88.

Yeah.

If it's just from wanting to get additional support, even if it's minute,

even if it's to talk to see where it leads.

Sure.

Give, what's it called?

Our podcast number?

Sure.

8 44 Stay wtl or 8 44.

7 8 2 9 9 85.

Perfect.

So from us all here at the W T O Podcast, my name is Vince and I hope

that you've enjoyed this episode, or I hope you do take us on this challenge

cause we got a whole bunch of challenge coins that we wanna mail out with other

plethora of cool stuff, although impromptu and spur the moment, but well overdue.

This specific episode is in honor of those who have.

Have succumbed to their duty, to their struggles, to their challenges,

and this episode is dedicated to the survivability and strength of you all.

So we hope that throughout this time you've taken the time to actually

acknowledge what we do, what you do.

and the sacrifices that we as first responders and veterans continuously do.