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No, and welcome to the Borealis experience. I'm your

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host Aurora, and today with me sad gab mA here. And I'm

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extremely blessed and delighted to have this young man on my

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show today he is 15 years old from Bangladesh. And he reached

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out to me, as an aspiring author, and mental health

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advocate, he has a strong mission and vision out there for

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us. And yeah, I'm especially excited today because a couple

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of days ago, I thought that I really wanted to have an

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interview, where we talk about the young generation. And now

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here he is.

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And I'm very excited to share with my audience what your

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mission is, what your vision is for the future. And at the end,

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you will let us know, yeah, where we can meet with you where

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we can stay connected with you and learn more about your book.

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We just had a little bit of an introduction talk. And this is

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where you shared with me where you from, and where your desire

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or urgency comes to raise awareness when it comes to

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mental health. You also shared with me that at school, you're

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being taught how you can take care of your mental health. And

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I find that very, very impressive and worthy of sharing

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with people from North America and from Europe. So welcome to

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the show, The stage is yours. And we want to know as much

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about you as possible. If you want to give us a little bit of

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an introduction of how you started becoming

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interested about mental health awareness, it is not usual as a

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15 year old

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to be passionate about this topic, and it'd be awesome to to

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find out what made you so passionate about it.

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There are a lot of reasons for what made me passionate about

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it. Some of which was where I lived in and what situation I

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was like, what environment I was situated in. So those played a

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role. Also, one thing about like having

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social anxiety was one thing that also played a role since I

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had it. So I thought like, that was something others might

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happen. But at that time, there was less awareness about it. So

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I did not know I, I felt like that was only me who was going

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through this. So as soon as I learned that it isn't me only.

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So I thought spreading the message would help others know

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that they're not alone in this journey. There are others who

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are here at our company. Hmm. And that is so important.

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Because probably back then when you first experienced your

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anxiety, you saw something is wrong with you, you're broken,

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and you have a hard time surviving.

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How are you going to make a future if you have that anxiety,

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and once you realize that there is other people with that

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anxiety. It actually lowered the anxiety probably and made you

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feel less alone. That is so critical. And then you decided

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to talk more about it in order to to de stigmatize it even

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more.

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And how was it for you within within your family? Like were

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they a full support? Or did they think oh, what is up doing

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there? This is very weird for a young person. How did your

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family react?

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Actually, my mom is really supportive. She supports

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everything I do. She she has given us as much freedom as it's

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needed. So she doesn't really keep like, you know, asking us

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of what we do, but she does keep updates about what we're doing.

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Obviously she does. So she was really supportive and everyone

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else was also

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really supportive? Yeah, yeah, no, they can be very proud of

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you. Sometimes when we, we have strong desires to, to yet change

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society or shape society in a new way. We we meet resistance

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and we meet people who are like, well, this is weird.

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But I'm glad that I found the support and your family. That's,

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that's so precious.

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Now tell us a little bit about your writing, you started

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writing? And Did I understand correctly that this is your way

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you'd like to express yourself and get the message out there?

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Yeah.

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So writing for me is actually like, expressing my feelings

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into like, putting them into words and sharing them helps

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like other people who are also experiencing this, to really

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understand how

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they are not alone and how the things can be. And to fiction, I

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think it's more you have more capacity to have a broader range

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of expressing the thing you're trying to express. Because you

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can kind of you can go on and make situation that you haven't

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been in, but others might have done. So you put them in those

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situation. And then you're like, see this character is going to

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this, you? You might as well be going to this, but she ended up

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well. You might also end up well. Yeah, yeah. So with your

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work, you make people feel less alone, you make them able to

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relate to the characters in the book? And how far are you into

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into writing? Now? Did you publish something already?

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Yes, I've already published my first book. It is a story.

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Obviously, it's fictional. But the thing is, I tried to keep it

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as realistic as possible, so that people can relate and feel

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moved by it. Yeah, yeah. That is so cool. And is it written for

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children? Or is it for adults? Or is it for both?

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It's for both, it's for all ages. But

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people have like, you know, younger people, like, you know,

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young adults and new adults would find it more relatable.

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Yeah, yeah. Because the things I tried to break down like some, I

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even tried to break down some stigmas. So some stigma most

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most of the stigma that I tried to be on both about them, so

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near them, so yeah, I'm part of it was like, the message that

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reach out, you might be helped, there might be people willing to

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listen to you. So that was there. But there was also stuff

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like there was cruelty as well, because we experience it so

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completely vanishing, it would make it seem like you're the

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only day are the only people

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like, you know, feeling those

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spacing those stuff, and not others, which would make them

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feel like Oh, my God, my life is the worst. But then it's so I

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included Realty so that they know that it isn't only them,

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facing those, and others are standing to the storm.

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without falling apart, so please, you should do it. Yeah,

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yeah. That is so cool. No, it makes a lot of sense and, and

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resonates was my mission and was my heart. So yeah, I'm just

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blown away how you found my podcast, and we're here now

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talking, this is awesome.

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Would you like to share with us how you take care of your mental

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health, you said that at a young age, you experienced anxiety and

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then you found out that you're not alone. And that's one of the

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tools that I use, that you are using today.

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To help yourself to stay grounded and to keep focusing on

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your mission.

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Definitely one part of it is keep yourself surrounded by

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people who are supportive because when you're surrounded

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by those people, they help you like the you know, the vibe they

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give, give off, helps you keep strong keep to go in throughout

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all those storms and all that

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was crashes your grown going through. So definitely that but

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then some part of it was writing. So I would suggest,

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like, you know, any hobby that you have maybe cooking, or

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learning a new language or anything, go up, do it like, you

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know, now we have Google. So definitely that is really

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helpful to like research about anything you want to do. So

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go up and research about what you're trying to do learn new

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things, maybe try doing them and then maybe you you will feel

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moved. Definitely. Yeah, that is so special. And earlier, when we

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talked, you said, once you found your hobby, your activity that

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excites you and grounds you and makes you feel good. Sometimes,

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self doubt, creeps in and makes you want to stop and makes you

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want to throw away that pen that you use to write your story.

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What do you share with people on how to,

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to conquer that self doubt and how to stay on your mission once

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you found it?

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One part of it is that I think for some, like, at least for

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some minutes, take a break.

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Be yourself as a cup of coffee, and then just think where you

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started, see where you started. Even if it's like just

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yesterday, you have come like you have spent the whole day

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your face the whole day. So, you will be able to face the next

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day if you try. And another thing is that since I have been

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an artist, so I looked up people there, there have been a lot of

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people who have gone gone through the same struggles as

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me. So but they are like, you know, they have moved past it.

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So when you look at those images, those pictures you you

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can like, you know, that will give you the positivity that

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know, there are people who have been here and they have

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exhibited from this darkness, so I can do

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so sometimes like some of the self, like indie authors, some

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of them we don't we don't we don't know that they're indie,

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such as Stephen King. He's an in he started as an indie author.

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But see, he's at a high position. So it's not just about

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authors. It's about everything. Everybody starts at some point.

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And every no one starting point is good. Yeah, I've been missing

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the one have been in darkness. So in self doubt, they haven't

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passed it. Yes, yes. And that is so important to, to shine light

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on because so often we look at the people who are successful

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artists today. And we think, Oh, they always had it easy. They

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were born with this talent. And who am I to say that I'm going

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to be good at it? No, they had to struggle. And they just

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decided to keep pushing through it. And I think another point

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is, is very important to mission mentioned is your, your mission.

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So your mission, if I understood, right, it's not to

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become famous and to earn a lot of money, and to drive big cars.

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Your mission is to raise awareness and to help society be

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more resilient to stress. And then beautiful side effect can

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be the big car and the private jet one day, but it is not your

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main drive. You wake up in the morning, and you think about how

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can I help that kid over there that is struggling with anxiety?

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How can I help the adult over there who's struggling with

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depression? Right and that

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takes maybe some some pressure off of it too because you know

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you are serving society you're not being selfish and and that

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very good to cling on. Yeah, it's a very good good. Yeah.

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Mission to be on that. Now.

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Yeah, it is definitely like something I think everybody

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should have sort of because when you have good intentions, they

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will good intentions like literally pave the pathway for

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you and you can walk on it. So some part of it is like when I

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see others going to

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To the same thing I have been, but then they are not seeing it

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in the same I have been. So sometimes I feel like, they're

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going to go to the wrong part, they're going to take the wrong

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part. So if I put a block over the wrong part, by my messages

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by the thing I'm doing, then they may take the right path and

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go to the path they're supposed to. Or they might lose

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themselves.

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Yes, that is very true. That is very true.

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Now share with us, where can we connect with you? Are you more

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on active on Facebook? Or on Instagram?

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Where can we have a look at your book? Is that available online

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somewhere?

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Yes, my book is available on Amazon. So if somebody wants to

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read it, or buy it, you can go on do that. And I'm mostly

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active on Instagram, but I'm really active on all other

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social media profiles as well. Because I try to keep up with

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you know, the competition. So that like, you know, so in

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order, you know, there are different audiences everywhere.

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So, being active everywhere, lets me keep connect, keep

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connected with people, different people, different people have

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different views. So that helps. And yeah, I also I'm posting a

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campaign a giveaway. So if you really feel like you want to

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read that, you can go participate it on it. To my

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Instagram account. Yes. Yes.

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And is it under your name? Set up my here? Yeah.

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Okay, it is under my name. But with official, so I like to put

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that word as well. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, that is so if you search for

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me, you will find it. I will find it.

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Now, last question for you. We would like to to hear one more

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time, your mission and your vision? What is it that you

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would like to see changing?

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In the future? When you talk about stigma? maybe be a little

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bit more specific there?

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On what would what would you like to see in the future for

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your generation.

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So a lot of things actually, but then some things that are that

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really stick to mind is how mental health is actually taking

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nowadays, how people are not like people with mental health

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issues, their issues are not taken into account when doing

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something or deciding something, they so what I would like, is to

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have your worlds where everything is taken into account

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before coming into a contusion. So every one every single person

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is included in it.

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Because you know sometimes, because there's someone with a

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problem, and then they're gonna be like, some people are like,

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it's not like, they're bad. They're just, they just don't

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know. They're, this is something. So sometimes they

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feel like, that's not really important. Because let's not

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take that into account because it's just one or two people that

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doesn't really make make it a necessity. But it should be a

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necessity because they are human too. Just because they're

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destined number doesn't mean they don't exist, they do exist.

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And they should be taken into account. So I would love

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worlds where this is possible. This is happening.

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Yeah, this is so beautiful. And you know what, when you when you

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share this with me,

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I think of people who commit crime, people who are violent.

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And if they

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you know, they're not born that way. They're not born criminals.

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They're not born violent they become so they can unlearn this

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again. And if there's people like you out there, showing them

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that hey, you're on a wrong on a on a weird path right now, but

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we can give you the tools to feel better, and to belong to

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society again, there's less likelihood of them becoming more

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criminal and more violent. Do you feel the same about this?

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Yeah, yes, I do. And I know a lot of people don't agree with

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this thing. But I have been trying. I have talked about this

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before, and I've gotten like, you know, people who didn't

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agree, because what I think is that no one is at

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should be bad. No, everybody is bad and good. They have done a

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good, good thing about them. But then maybe it's so like, you

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know, tiny and amount that it's overlapped by the bad they have.

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So if if there is there are people who are willing to help

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them, they can increase that goodness and overlap that bad.

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With that good thing. Everybody has some kind of good thing in

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them. If you try, you can find it. Yes, this is one thing I

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always like to see, from a different perspective, no matter

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what the thing is, I like to view it from a different

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perspective, something that is not the perspective that is not

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common. So that sometimes, you know, they might have thought it

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this way and gone to this way. So maybe this is why they're

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wrong. So we can tell them that this is not how you're supposed

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to go.

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So a lot of people think that no, they just knew this was

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going to happen. But they still decided to do it. Sometimes it's

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not like that. Sometimes it's like they viewed it in a

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different way. And then

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they just landed into a wrong part. without even noticing.

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Yes, yes. Very, very wise, and precious words that you're

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sharing with us here like I'm so, so blessed to to have met

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you. And I'm so grateful that there is young people like you

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out there, fighting for the good and shining the light on stuff

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that most people don't like to look at and like to push away.

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But we have to learn to Yeah, include mental health, mental

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well being into our lives a little more. And then we can be

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more sensitive with the people around us and build more

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resilient societies and, and your mission and your vision is

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clearly needed all around the world at this moment, not only

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in Bangladesh, not only in Malaysia, or Canada, but around

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the globe. So I'm wishing you all the best on your journey.

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I'm very happy to stay connected with you. And to share this

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episode around with you. Thank you so much for reaching out to

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me and for letting me ask you all these questions.

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Thank you, you to YouTube for having me today. And to all

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those listener out there, putting attention and listening

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to me. Thanks a lot. This means a lot. Yes, it means a lot to me

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to thank you so so much.

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Thank you.

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Thank you so much for listening to this episode. If you haven't

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already, make sure to subscribe to the Borealis Experience

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podcast. And if you want to leave a rating or a review, it

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would be very, very much appreciated. I find it amazing

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how more and more youngsters out there are rising and raising

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awareness around the topic of mental health. It is truly Yeah.

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It gives me hope and truly inspiring and great. So yeah,

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make sure to share with family and friends if you liked this

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episode, and I will be out there very soon again. Bye bye