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American Groove - #90 The Devil Wears Healthcare
Episode 907th January 2025 • Lost in the Groove • Dave Lennon & Karissa Andrews
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We're blasting, fucking headfirst into the frustrations of modern healthcare. Let me tell you, its legit a scam. From the absurd cost of dental care, which makes no sense anymore. To the corporate greed of Big Pharma. Asking the question when did dental work start costing more than a car payment? And, don’t even get us started on the CEOs, once got murdered. Who on earth would want to be a CEO of a health insurance company.

It’s not all heavy, not going to lie it kind of is. We kinda sorta lighten the mood with a dive into the benefits of supplements. Our love-hate relationship with caffeine alternatives. Lets be hon est, coffee can be liquid "crack" in some cases. Why you need one of Karissa's candles at:

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Karissa's name for the week is "uptheass"

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00:00.20

Lost in the Groove Podcast

Okay, so you know how like I take care of my grand my grandfather in like the evening? you know like Right now he's like at a rehabilitation center. And he usually watches Fox News, but because of the place that he's at, I guess they're liberal as fuck.

00:15.86

Lost in the Groove Podcast

um They only have CNN and ABC and NBC.

00:17.49

uptheass

That would suck.

00:19.40

Lost in the Groove Podcast

Yeah, they you don't have any.

00:19.51

uptheass

You're like old and dying. Just let you watch what you want.

00:22.81

Lost in the Groove Podcast

I know, like they restrict you to liberal bullshit. So like these...

00:26.24

uptheass

Oh.

00:29.19

Lost in the Groove Podcast

So CNN for like the past couple of days have been like talking about like the CEO that was like murdered from United Healthcare. Do you hear about the story?

00:40.51

uptheass

I don't watch the news, you know that. and

00:43.21

Lost in the Groove Podcast

Okay, good. So A,

00:44.30

uptheass

You've been watching the news, so if you want an unscathed perspective, here it is.

00:51.97

Lost in the Groove Podcast

A, A, A. So his I think his name is Luigi. um marjione or marioni or something like that he basically like comes from like this affluent family and like he went on a killing spree and like killed like straight out of batman okay like this is like straight up like gotham city like dc comics bullshit you know like just so united health care has been under scrutiny like let's be

01:16.11

uptheass

What did he do?

01:23.32

uptheass

What did he do? Tell me about the murder. What did he fucking do?

01:28.01

Lost in the Groove Podcast

He followed him and then he pulled out a gun and he shot him multiple times in the back and killed him.

01:32.88

uptheass

He just shot one person.

01:35.37

Lost in the Groove Podcast

Yeah, he shot the CEO.

01:35.73

uptheass

You made it you made it sound like.

01:39.66

Lost in the Groove Podcast

Well, it was the CEO of United Healthcare, care but yeah, it was just one person.

01:42.47

uptheass

You made it sound like this person went on like a murder rampage. They shot a person.

01:47.63

Lost in the Groove Podcast

Yeah, a person.

01:47.74

uptheass

They shot the the CEO of United Healthcare. care I'm sorry. That sounds like Big Farm to me.

01:55.47

Lost in the Groove Podcast

It is Big Pharma.

01:55.50

uptheass

Who? Yeah. So like, is this like a good assassination? I know there's no such thing, but like, I mean, if we killed the leader of Big Farm, I don't feel like that would be a terrible thing.

02:08.85

Lost in the Groove Podcast

ah and i Agreed like there's no justification for like murdering somebody No But you know what it's like No, it's like honestly also like has to do with the yeah ah There's a lot of

02:12.37

uptheass

I'm not really saying that. Like we shouldn't murder people, but I'm asking like, wait, is this really, really bad? It is bad because he's got a family and stuff like from that perspective, but like at, you know, what, what are people saying?

02:32.61

uptheass

Healthcare care systems fucked. Is that why he did it? Or is he just nuts?

02:38.64

Lost in the Groove Podcast

No, I think it's a mixture of both like I think it's because he's nuts and also like has to do with United like with healthcare care in general I think these are one of things like It's not hard These days is really not hard.

02:46.22

uptheass

How the fuck did he find him? That's what's crazy. Like a lot of people are like kind of pissed about, you know, like this or that, but to actually track somebody down and like shoot him, that's fucking wild.

03:00.19

Lost in the Groove Podcast

I mean certain celebrities I Think he's a

03:01.04

uptheass

What did he live in the same city as him? They live in the same city?

03:06.28

Lost in the Groove Podcast

um I think he was originally from Boston if I'm not mistaken Yeah, he planned this he like planned this whole thing and did it in New York City, yeah I Think last week if I'm not mistaken and it took them like four days to

03:10.09

uptheass

ah So the fucker got in the car and drove a long distance to go do this.

03:20.74

uptheass

Boston and New York City. It's not the furthest in the world, but when did this happen?

03:28.68

uptheass

Oh, damn. Yeah, no, I'm out of the loop.

03:33.31

Lost in the Groove Podcast

It took him four days to find them, by the way. Four fucking days.

03:36.04

uptheass

UnitedHealthcare is what I used to have. Why did it take him so long to find him? Why is he so good at hiding?

03:42.34

Lost in the Groove Podcast

I don't know. I don't know.

03:46.03

uptheass

But they did find him, so he's not that great at it.

03:49.23

Lost in the Groove Podcast

Well, they found him, actually, because ah mc he was at a McDonald's, and the McDonald's employee called the FBI.

03:54.72

uptheass

Holy shit.

03:57.85

uptheass

So everybody knows what this guy looks like, huh?

03:58.34

Lost in the Groove Podcast

And that's...

04:00.99

Lost in the Groove Podcast

Yeah. He comes from, like, an affluent family, so it's not like just some, like, run-of-the-mill, you know, like…

04:09.15

uptheass

But people don't like this guy.

04:09.60

Lost in the Groove Podcast

right There are actual people that are, like, cheering him on, you know, like, calling him a hero. You know, I—look.

04:19.32

uptheass

I was curious because like healthcare care system is shitty.

04:23.89

Lost in the Groove Podcast

Oh, it is. And you know something? It's hilarious because like we've talked about this before, like even somebody like RFK, which is kind of the one of the things that he's trying to do, which is what his uncle did way back in the early 60s, is we have a health care crisis. Like today on the phone, OK, I call up the dental because I've needed my root canal.

04:46.70

Lost in the Groove Podcast

And I finally got like my new coverage that I have now where like it it's in certain brackets. So like my root canal is like between $240 to $480.

04:52.35

uptheass

Ew.

04:56.75

Lost in the Groove Podcast

That's the cap. And I was like, just telling the lady on the phone, she's like, well, the only available we'd have is like until January.

04:58.55

uptheass

Yeah.

05:02.90

Lost in the Groove Podcast

iagnosed with a root canal in:

05:25.41

Lost in the Groove Podcast

It's $3,000. okay like I don't have that kind of money.

05:29.69

uptheass

That's too much money. No one does.

05:31.47

Lost in the Groove Podcast

You don't have that kind of money. Like most of us don't have that kind of money to throw around, you know, and like, I get the anger.

05:39.01

uptheass

I feel like a lot of places aren't letting you do like a payment plan these days anymore either.

05:39.87

Lost in the Groove Podcast

and

05:43.47

Lost in the Groove Podcast

They don't give a shit. They don't give a fucking shit. All they care about is making the fucking money. This is all this healthcare care system is, is give you pills, how much fucking money they can make off of you, and how much money can the insurance fucking drain out of your living life when you actually need...

05:57.53

uptheass

And all those people they're so filthy rich filthy filthy fucking rich like so much money they don't know what to do with it up the ass getting getting fucked

06:07.75

Lost in the Groove Podcast

No, I know. I know and it's fucked up because like where is us in the equation, you know And like We're both young but the truth is like we do need to go to the doctor from time to time like there are things that are gonna come up and The fact that we can't even afford like the both of us can't afford proper health care Look my heart goes out to

06:27.94

uptheass

oh my god i nearly died well i have to work for these fuck faces excuse me um i just i anybody that i worked went for you know but i'm just saying like i gotta work for people who don't give a fuck about me and treat me really shitty and just kind of like run me around all the time.

06:57.47

uptheass

I gotta do that just so I can pay more money to get half-ass health insurance that I can hardly ever even use. Also because I'm always at work so I can't get out of work to go even fucking use it.

07:11.39

uptheass

I'm spending all this money and it's still not enough and it doesn't even cover anything to be honest. It just lets me just go so that I can give them more money. Because honest to God,

07:19.60

Lost in the Groove Podcast

Yeah.

07:20.85

uptheass

No. like My doctor's appointment was $150. My copay, just to go there, just to fucking go there, man. $150. And fifty dollars and like i I went there and I thought it was like covered on my copay. like I like went there and I paid like my $40 copay and I was like, okay. And then I get home and like a few days later I got a um letter saying, like oh well the appointment was actually you know a hundred and eighty dollars but you know like the copay was 20 and so you only paid I mean the copay was 40 so you only really paid $40 you need to pay the other part and I'm like wait wait wait why didn't you just charge me the whole a hundred and eighty dollars

08:12.18

uptheass

Why was I paying? I'm paying the whole thing anyways. What the fuck are we doing here? Doesn't make any sense at all at all. And who let all these people get away with this for so long?

08:21.47

Lost in the Groove Podcast

No.

08:24.78

uptheass

That's what I want to know is like, why is everybody just bending over and taking it forever? Forever, everybody.

08:32.78

Lost in the Groove Podcast

I mean, look, like my heart goes out to his family, like the CEO, like 100% like he's got a wife and kids. But the fact is, I'm sorry, people like him, people like even the CEO of Starbucks, okay?

08:50.83

Lost in the Groove Podcast

that has the audacity, the audacity to say, well, our focus should be on speed.

08:51.17

uptheass

Egg.

08:56.99

Lost in the Groove Podcast

You know something?

08:57.91

uptheass

ah

08:58.07

Lost in the Groove Podcast

One thing I actually enjoy about going to Starbucks is the fun stuff. OK, it may take me a little bit longer to get a cup of coffee. I don't give a shit. I'm paying eight fucking dollars as it is.

09:09.98

Lost in the Groove Podcast

Right. I don't care.

09:11.72

uptheass

I don't want to see people miserable while I buy my coffee.

09:14.09

Lost in the Groove Podcast

But then you have But then you have the people that are running these companies. Their fix, their fucking fixation is, well, let's make it faster. Let's restrict and spend less money. I get that. But you're dealing with people, man. Like, you're dealing with fucking healthcare, bro. This is insane. Okay, I remember I lived in Israel, or and I'm just giving that an example, because that's one place that I was at.

09:46.95

Lost in the Groove Podcast

did universal health care. Okay, 3am in the morning, I was in serious pain went straight into urgent care cost me zero.

09:58.80

uptheass

Yeah.

10:00.15

Lost in the Groove Podcast

Okay, I needed

10:00.34

uptheass

When I was poor enough in LA, I could do that. Yeah, not with dental, but anything emergency, they'd cover it for me.

10:08.19

Lost in the Groove Podcast

Dental, you know how much in Israel, you know, um the the guy didn't want to do root canal. In Israel, the root canal was $480, but I couldn't afford it at the time.

10:18.80

uptheass

Oh my God.

10:19.77

Lost in the Groove Podcast

So he did a filling on there, and the filling cost me $115, okay? A cavity to get done in Israel is $56.

10:30.30

uptheass

Oh my god, when I was in LA, I just had this horrible flashback. I remember I went to one dentist and they told me, like, because I had this infected tooth.

10:41.34

uptheass

Like, I'm like, seriously, like, my mouth is infected and they won't help me.

10:44.94

Lost in the Groove Podcast

Mm hmm.

10:46.20

uptheass

unless I give them thousands of dollars like my mouth is infected and they won't do anything like they just like stare at me and be like well I don't know it's like that's the other thing is like we have a lot of doctors that aren't helping people to help people they're helping people for money

10:46.32

Lost in the Groove Podcast

No.

11:00.83

Lost in the Groove Podcast

Well, it's because of how our insurance is structured. Like people don't understand that basically what these doctors are doing is they're going to school literally to be managers for the insurance company.

11:14.62

Lost in the Groove Podcast

Cause all these doctors are doing is literally processing, putting, exactly.

11:14.76

uptheass

yeah

11:17.66

uptheass

You sign paperwork. Yeah.

11:19.99

Lost in the Groove Podcast

Yeah. Like that, that's it. Like there's no, so, so

11:22.83

uptheass

It's their autograph. That's all it is, is they just sign off. They just make it legal because it's approved by a doctor.

11:30.71

Lost in the Groove Podcast

but Like, what what yeah, like, what what do you what are you doing with...

11:30.68

uptheass

Right.

11:34.11

uptheass

They're just a human approval system. It's fake.

11:37.05

Lost in the Groove Podcast

And you...

11:37.35

uptheass

It's like they've abused what a doctor is. It must be miserable. And like, it's like a good thing the doctors make money because it sounds really shitty. to just be like a tool like that after you work for so long at your education and you learn all this stuff.

11:45.94

Lost in the Groove Podcast

Think about it also with...

11:51.66

uptheass

and I mean, some of them are just shits, you know, and some of them are just naturally smart.

11:53.62

Lost in the Groove Podcast

Mm-hmm.

11:56.51

uptheass

They don't deserve any like praise because they didn't really work that hard for it.

11:58.92

Lost in the Groove Podcast

I wanna... I want to blow your mind their mine for a second.

12:02.03

uptheass

um But I did want to tell you that about going back to the dentist shit, there was when I went to my dentist, they said it was like $4,000 to get the tooth taken out and to get like

12:05.12

Lost in the Groove Podcast

Yeah. Yeah, I wanted i wanted to talk about that.

12:13.45

uptheass

you know, like a ah tooth that I need, you know?

12:13.98

Lost in the Groove Podcast

I paid $500

12:16.78

uptheass

And I know, but listen to this.

12:18.19

Lost in the Groove Podcast

to have my tooth emergency removed in New York. Mm-hmm.

12:22.15

uptheass

This is the kicker. He goes, well, I could just take it out for you for a thousand bucks.

12:31.38

uptheass

A thousand bucks to rip my tooth out. I was like, and and what? Just have a hole? And he was like, well, you know, and I was like, um, I think I'll have a crown.

12:44.34

uptheass

Like goodness God. He was like, well, that's what people do. They just rip it out and they just go without a tooth. Like welcome to poverty. I was like, holy fuck. And you want a thousand bucks for it?

12:54.95

uptheass

Don't go rip my own tooth out you assholes. Like a thousand dollars to rip my tooth out of my mouth. I can't with this.

13:01.90

Lost in the Groove Podcast

So ah here's the wildest thing here in the United States, okay?

13:05.30

uptheass

You know doctor's offices used to be a local thing it used to be like the actual person in your town that knows shit Didn't used to be some big company that owned the doctor and the doctor signs the papers.

13:08.86

Lost in the Groove Podcast

Yeah, they used to come to your house.

13:17.53

uptheass

This is not oh

13:18.26

Lost in the Groove Podcast

ave health coverage until the:

13:37.96

Lost in the Groove Podcast

um What I was going to get at was like,

13:38.88

uptheass

It didn't cost a whole lot.

13:41.05

Lost in the Groove Podcast

No, not at all. The thing about dentists are, and this is the bananas part, they're considered specialists. So their schooling, a kid you're not, you can Google this right now, is somewhere in the neighborhood of between $300,000 to $500,000. An average MD is between $180,000 to about $200,000. Can be more depending on the school that you choose.

14:07.48

uptheass

Ugh.

14:08.87

Lost in the Groove Podcast

That's insane. So no wonder why dentists are so expensive. No wonder why so many states these days no longer offer dental coverage. Most states now offer dental benefits. In the state of Florida, this is bananas. There is no dental coverage. We only have dental benefits.

14:33.03

Lost in the Groove Podcast

So the way that my dental is structured, remember I told you earlier how it's like in brackets? Your two options are they finally have this now where you pay in a bracket. So it's like between 200 to like $400. It's still a lot of money, but like before it's $3,000 with coverage, okay? With coverage, and then you have to have a waiting fucking period. Like there's all this bullshit.

15:01.72

Lost in the Groove Podcast

like It gets even worse as you go down the ladder from, you know, your general, general um practitioner, like you're just general doctor, like the second you you go down from there.

15:03.69

uptheass

Yeah.

15:16.95

Lost in the Groove Podcast

It's hell.

15:18.16

uptheass

Yeah. I mean, there were a lot of different times that I tried to see specialists for things.

15:23.82

Lost in the Groove Podcast

Mm.

15:24.49

uptheass

I don't feel like any of them ever really helped me that much.

15:29.40

Lost in the Groove Podcast

I had a really good podiatrist for my knee. Remember, because I had my injury last year. And he told me the best thing that I would ever hear in like my life. He said, look, he says, I'm going to help you. I'm going to rehabilitate you. He said, but fact is, you may still have a problem for the rest of your life.

15:52.27

Lost in the Groove Podcast

But he said, you know if you make sure, which I haven't done, he's like, if you make sure you do like the right exercises and do what you can, you're gonna be okay. you know I've done everything that I can as a doctor, now it's your turn to be able to do what you can with this new thing that you have to deal with. That was great, and like I remember even him like sitting down and like explaining to me exactly and like how the bone contusion happened,

16:21.64

Lost in the Groove Podcast

He spent over 38 minutes, close to like 45, with an entire place full of patients. There are doctors like that. They're hard, they're rare, but you can find them.

16:43.31

Lost in the Groove Podcast

Ground control de major to tone. Sorry, I lost you there for a second.

16:46.93

uptheass

Yeah. No, the doctors are just a lot of, brings up a lot of thoughts. I so ah saw so many different specialists for so many different things over the years and I realized that I just have to take better care of myself.

16:53.49

Lost in the Groove Podcast

It does.

17:04.78

Lost in the Groove Podcast

I started supplementing. That's one big thing that's been a really big help. I didn't even realize this too. like I've been taking vitamin D. I live here in Florida and we have tons of sun, but the problem is i'm like I'm constantly indoors.

17:15.83

uptheass

Yeah.

17:19.67

uptheass

you

17:20.00

Lost in the Groove Podcast

So even though like I do get some sun exposure, I don't get enough of it. And then I've been having a problem with like with caffeine.

17:28.67

uptheass

Yeah.

17:30.11

Lost in the Groove Podcast

you know like I just have not been getting like enough. Yeah, I'm addicted to substances. right I admit it. like I am addicted to nicotine, cannabis, and caffeine. like I need the shit to survive.

17:40.28

uptheass

mar yeah um I'm addicted to sugar and, you know.

17:40.81

Lost in the Groove Podcast

so

17:45.22

Lost in the Groove Podcast

What I was going to tell you, we all are addicted to ah death cakes and Oreos and fucking ice cream. And it's great.

17:53.27

uptheass

Oreos.

17:53.80

Lost in the Groove Podcast

But um I have what we were talking about. I just lost my train of thought. We were talking about doctors and then we were talking about.

18:06.45

Lost in the Groove Podcast

Oh, supplements.

18:06.59

uptheass

um

18:07.13

Lost in the Groove Podcast

So I have for caffeine, I take it's called proloxetine.

18:08.04

uptheass

Well...

18:11.56

uptheass

What is it supposed to do?

18:12.16

Lost in the Groove Podcast

It's. It's a caffeine alternative.

18:15.74

uptheass

Oh. Wait, you stopped drinking coffee?

18:17.00

Lost in the Groove Podcast

So, no, I still drink. I have like one just one cup of coffee a day in the morning.

18:21.36

uptheass

Hmm.

18:23.18

Lost in the Groove Podcast

But I have the same cognitive functioning that I had at one o'clock in the afternoon. I have that right now. If you haven't noticed, I've been a lot more like here, even though I'm high as balls.

18:39.76

Lost in the Groove Podcast

It's because I've been taking that. It like lasts like the entire day. It's amazing. work like There's so many things that you can learn about like medicine and different ways of taking care of yourself.

18:52.28

Lost in the Groove Podcast

yeah like I could eat better, I could exercise and shit, but I'm kinda getting pissed off with the whole healthcare, care medical, like especially with my mom.

19:04.37

uptheass

Oh yeah.

19:06.23

Lost in the Groove Podcast

I'm just...

19:07.15

uptheass

They took so much money from me this year.

19:11.21

uptheass

Yeah, with your mom.

19:11.91

Lost in the Groove Podcast

RF...

19:13.38

uptheass

I get that.

19:13.77

Lost in the Groove Podcast

RFK if you're listening to this podcast Please for the sake of this country. We need fucking universal health care like I'm like I'm not trying to be like, you know We really need it.

19:27.60

Lost in the Groove Podcast

Like we're at a point already.

19:27.97

uptheass

It's still really terrible, though. Like, how do you think that the universal health care that they, like, what's the word? In, I want to say, Institute?

19:41.30

uptheass

No.

19:42.22

Lost in the Groove Podcast

I

19:42.90

uptheass

That they like, that they put in place, like the the universal health care that they put in place is not going to be good to us.

19:51.28

Lost in the Groove Podcast

Well, so.

19:52.04

uptheass

If it was universal health care the way that it should be, then yeah, I'd be rooting for it. But they're gonna give us universal health care, but it's gonna be shit. Like, it's not gonna be what universal health care should be.

20:02.47

Lost in the Groove Podcast

Possibly.

20:04.06

uptheass

You know that.

20:06.10

Lost in the Groove Podcast

Maybe, but here's here's the.

20:07.29

uptheass

Not the dream of what universal health care was when people started talking about it 20 years ago.

20:10.60

Lost in the Groove Podcast

Nothing. Nothing is going to be perfect. But here's the thing, though. One interesting part about the United States is we're states. So more than likely, if there is some type of form of you know of universal health care, it would be by a state to state basis. What more than likely will happen is you'll have you like a form of state by state universal health care.

20:38.33

Lost in the Groove Podcast

and privatized insurance. Something that ah RFK has spoken about, which makes sense, they do do this in Britain, which it has its pros and cons, which is where you add on benefits, okay?

20:54.00

uptheass

so

20:54.35

Lost in the Groove Podcast

So for example, you get your typical free coverage, but you can add on like, for example, um ah coverages of like hospitalization, urgent care, dental, vision,

21:07.60

Lost in the Groove Podcast

There are things that you can add on. But again, it's not a perfect system. I'm i'm not gonna lie to you. However, we're at a point where either we need to change the way that we're doing this, or chronic illness is just gonna sporadically just keep on climbing.

21:19.30

uptheass

Thank you.

21:26.38

Lost in the Groove Podcast

And more and more people such as ourselves as we get older,

21:32.48

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we're gonna be locking ourself up in a cage. Okay, let's think about this for a second. We just said before that doctors have reached a point that although they are valued is a signature on a piece of paper or clocked in on a computer.

21:52.68

Lost in the Groove Podcast

So that is whitewashed.

21:52.96

uptheass

Mm-hmm. I mean, unless they're like surgeons that are like legit like in action, I think they're just approval per people.

22:03.20

uptheass

Like they just approve.

22:04.13

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They've been denying my mom because these are surgeons.

22:06.24

uptheass

Well, deny or approve.

22:07.09

Lost in the Groove Podcast

that Yeah, because they want to just do spine surgery.

22:07.49

uptheass

Yeah, one or the other. Deniers.

22:11.49

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They just want to do spine. They hear hips and spine. They just want to do spine. They want to go where the money is.

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uptheass

It's so gross.

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uptheass

Yeah, they're like profiting off of our bodies and our pain.

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In my way.

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like the They profit off of our bodies. like We're meat. like We're product. you know it's That's what I mean.

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We technically are a meat and product. Yeah.

22:38.53

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We're their products more than they're actually helping people. It's out of control. like When you're at an ER, you're at a store. like they are like like running SKU numbers, they're running barcodes like you're buying, like if if you've been to the ER recently or like they just run barcodes like you're at a self checkout and they're like, and you have this and this and that, and they won't give any of it to you until they run each one of them through your insurance to make sure that though that your insurance will pay for it. Otherwise it'll just let you lay there and die. They would too.

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And they're all taught not to, but they're all too busy to notice if you die. It's not that they won't try. They just be too busy to see you because you didn't have the money.

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And that they will, they'll just kind of like push you out the door or two. I don't know. I mean, it's not always that way.

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Yeah.

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Like I have had some times where they let me hang around and stuff, but for the most part, they just kind of are like, well, you're not dying at the moment. Get the fuck out of here. I mean, seriously, they basically say it.

23:52.77

uptheass

You know?

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Yeah, it's.

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uptheass

They do. Anyways, sorry. But I've been treated like trash.

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No, no, no, yeah I mean, you know, you won't look.

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This is a lot of people.

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You know what, ah um I remember I spoke.

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They're like, are you about ready to go?

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I remember I spoke with um with this gal that was a part of a Native American reservation.

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um I think it was the Cherokee Nation. The Cherokee Nation has universal health care. The way that they do it is per tribe basis. So depending where they have the facilities, what basically is paid to pay for the cost is the tax money that they collect. So like, for example, like casinos, liquor businesses, among other things.

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And the um medical systems also feed back into the community as well. So like, for example, they'll have members that will go to schools and show um like presentations of like the different things that that they do. So everything kind of feeds back within each other. So like almost like the money is there's money, there is money that needs to be paid, but it's all flowing within the community.

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and she said it's like wonderful you know you can go there for the ER and they will do full body scans so full body scan they they will not let you leave unless you're fully checked and everything is completely and she was like telling me she's like yeah they do like full well I think it's called like um a panel to do like a full body panel I think like they do through your blood like they check

25:36.06

uptheass

I don't think I've ever had one body skin.

25:45.28

uptheass

I've had a panel, yeah.

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Yeah, but it's like one of like those I don't know all the fucking technical terms but like I know like it's something where it's like they do like they take your blood like multiple times and they run like like many tests Did I tell you that I was told

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Yeah. Yeah, and they told me that I need to take better care of my liver. And I was like, well, it's too fucking late, man. I know what you're talking about. I fucked stuff up when I was younger.

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I was told old by a dermatologist that my heart is perfectly fine. Oh, by the way, your heart is running at a 35 year old rate.

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uptheass

What's wrong with that? No, I'm just kidding.

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Yeah, I'm like, okay. And I like i told this to Mac, my brother, and he was like, what? He's like, I've never heard that before. I'm like, neither have I. Like, you mentioned your doctor just being, you're fine. By the way,

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Your kidney is 46.

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How is that a good thing, you know?

26:49.07

uptheass

I don't think it's a good thing. I think he's trying to say like your heart seems a little older than your age.

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We all, pretty much my entire family, like heart disease is a known problem, like my dad suffered from it. So, yeah. But, I mean, is it really gonna be, but

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and I'm sorry. No, it's not cool to hear.

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No, it's not, but it's kind of like almost.

27:16.44

uptheass

I was really creeped out when they told me that my liver wasn't doing well. Like I think I was like worried about it for a few days. Like I was like, Oh, and I like read all these things and I was like really disappointed and I felt like genuinely old.

27:29.82

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And I was like, and they said, you take milk thistle.

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You could take supplements for that, by the way, like if your liver. Really?

27:39.28

uptheass

That's what I read. It's what it says online to take milk thistle. If I have, yeah, the the supplements and vitamins and things, that's the supplement is, right?

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milk thistle.

27:49.10

uptheass

Just a vitamin.

27:51.21

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Um, yeah. Pretty much. I mean, it's like, like we do need like proteins and things to survive, but like there are other nutrients that we need. Like I take magnesium B12.

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uptheass

What else do you take?

28:05.89

uptheass

Yeah, magnesium is amazing. Did we talk about this last time?

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Oh, I think so. I, I, I, I, I,

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uptheass

Oh, wow. Look at us.

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I love supplements. I think, like, um I am still miserable and depressed and, like, anxious all the all the time. But I do function a lot better.

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You know, like, i my reflexes are a lot quicker, like, particularly when I'm driving.

28:27.21

uptheass

Oh, cool.

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So.

28:29.59

uptheass

Oh, I just.

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Yeah, I'm a lot. I don't know. It's like even when I'm high, even when I'm high, it's weird. Like, I have a lot better reflexes. I'm like a lot quicker to catch things.

28:42.24

uptheass

Oh, I just need more sleep. Like, I don't need all this shit. I just need, you know, my work to stop waking me up so fucking early and stressing me out throughout the night.

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um I mean, I wake up about 6 a.m. and I head out to school at about like 8.45. So, I

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uptheass

this is so oh and This is so interesting. like I overheard some girls talking about like what vitamins they take. And I overheard this girl say that she takes red raspberry.

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That's very specific. Why?

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uptheass

I know. The fruit and leaves of the red raspberry plant contain nutrients and chemicals that may have health benefits, including antioxidants, fiber, vitamins and minerals, al- al- algric acid, raspberries contain algric acid and phytonutrient that may help prevent cell damage.

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Yeah, all there all berries are acidic.

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uptheass

um

29:52.37

uptheass

Ooh, it's good for your kidneys.

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Mm-hmm.

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uptheass

So red raspberry flavonoids. Raspberries contain flavonoids, which may improve kidney function and reduce cancer cell growth.

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Sorry.

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uptheass

It's interesting, it says it's really good for um pregnant women as well.

30:11.48

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Well... Honestly, like, when it comes to, like, I call them, like, the ju-ju, you know, supplements. I don't know, I kind of stick with things that I've like researched and kind of like seen results for like magnesium. So the thing that I didn't realize is like B12, my doctor explained this to me, like B12 doesn't work well by itself. So you can't just take B12. So you have to like add something to it. So she told me to add magnesium, because that helps with cognitive function. And like with the added B12, it's,

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She's 100% correct. like It's a night and day difference. um I think like you you have to figure out what supplements work for you. you know I got judged because I have like a 400 for um my vitamin vitamin D, and a guy's like, that's too low. And I'm like, I know I'm not that dark. I don't need that much vitamin D. I just need a little...

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well yeah they prescribed when they did my panel they were like holy hell you have no vitamin d i mean i i don't know what my number was but they prescribed me like a uh pill for it and so i have like a vitamin d from the person from the doctor car but i bet it says i don't know what it is um

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I just need a little.

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Was it like 10,000 or 5,000?

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Have you not been taking vitamin D?

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uptheass

I hadn't been because like ah I wanted the prescription.

31:52.59

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No, honey, you need to take vitamin D. Like, you... Oh my God, the... before we up Before we end this episode, we gotta talk about your nails.

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uptheass

Can you

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Did you get your nails done tonight?

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uptheass

see them?

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Ooh.

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uptheass

They're red chrome.

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That kind of reminds me of the Wizard of Oz, like the Ruby Slippers.

32:15.78

uptheass

Yeah, that's exactly what they're like. Um, I feel like, okay, so how many milligrams? I also, I told you I bought the happy light, right?

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What's that?

32:29.96

uptheass

The happy light is like light therapy for like seasonal depression. Um, so it's like a light that emits like fake sunlight, um, without getting sunburned and it's not like a tanning bed or anything.

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Oh, it's ah UV light.

32:48.83

uptheass

Yeah, but it's like a certain type that it's like, you're not going to get like a sunburn or whatever. But it, it gives your body like the same chemical reaction as like being in the sun. So your body will produce vitamin A and vitamin D. um and When you wake up, you're supposed to turn the light on and have it shine towards you for 10 minutes and it's supposed to treat seasonal depression. depression

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Ooh.

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uptheass

so i bought that light yeah yeah my mom was like what a waste of money

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Ah. Oh. Mm hmm. And he has side effects.

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You know what, I I'll be honest, like, there is practical medicine, but there are certain things that I've definitely seen that are I'd be beneficial. You know, again, it depends on each person. You know, the things that work for me that probably won't work for other people. And that's fine.

33:50.39

uptheass

I want to see how many milligrams. It's really not that many.

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What?

33:56.75

uptheass

Dude, I think it's like it's 50.

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No way.

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and So I mean, like I could take like. It's only 50.

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No, you need a lot more.

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uptheass

It says, but it's it's vitamin D3. Does that matter?

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that's That's what it's called, but people call it vitamin D.

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Yeah.

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uptheass

I don't know.

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So the, nah, you need higher than that.

34:21.25

uptheass

Yeah, they're, they're 50 milligrams. But what is, what is MCG? Wouldn't it just be MCG?

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Micrograms. Yeah. MG is milligrams. MCGE is micrograms.

34:41.13

uptheass

It's a soft gel though. Does that make a difference? I got the liquid

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They're all soft gel. Yeah. um i I don't know if the soft gels work.

34:48.12

uptheass

No, because my old ones were just like actual pills. This time I got the gel.

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The gels um digest and are honestly better than the actual capsules. I honestly, honey, like I'm taking 400.

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Okay.

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uptheass

Hmm.

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Micrograms.

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uptheass

Yeah, I think.

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So you need a lot more.

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uptheass

I think I could probably take at least two of these like.

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No, you need like either 5,000 or probably need about like 5,000.

35:21.39

uptheass

Well, they only gave me a hundred pills.

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Only 100.

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uptheass

Yeah.

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Damn.

35:29.22

uptheass

That's like as many as they said my insurance would do. There's a hundred of them. So like I want them to last for a while. I don't, I don't know when my next refill is.

35:42.15

uptheass

Um, but I, I had to,

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You know you could just buy them in the store.

35:46.59

uptheass

Yeah, but they're cheaper this way. Like there're they're covered under my insurance.

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True.

35:52.92

uptheass

I don't know that they're the same, you know?

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I mean.

35:56.72

uptheass

But I wonder if my old one was like a stronger prescription and this one is like weaker because it kind of feels like that. the

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Yeah, this feels weaker. I'm gonna be honest with you, like, You need you need a higher dose. This is like way too low.

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uptheass

I don't know what

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But.

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uptheass

I don't know how I ended up with that, you know what I mean?

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Yeah, I don't know.

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uptheass

yeah

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Ah. Anyway, I know that you have 30% off on your website for your candles. As a shout out, Kirsten makes handmade candles handmade in Iowa.

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That's called Velvet Earth Shop. ah You can find that at velvetearthshop.com to get your 30% off discount. That's all going on.

36:50.27

uptheass

yeah sure

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Cool. So 30% for the holiday season. And like again,

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uptheass

so

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Motherfuckers if you be smoking right need them candles to get away the stank All right If you want to check out more of the pod We're on all the socials and we're on YouTube and we're now on rumble for American groove only And lost in the groove pot.

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uptheass

ah

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uptheass

Yeah,

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So with that What do we tell these motherfuckers?

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uptheass

sure.

37:20.92

uptheass

Thanks for listening. Thank you. Peace out.

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