Awareness leads to clarity. Clarity leads to choice, and choice leads to transformation.

• Matt Monday

In this captivating episode of The Mindful Coach podcast, I sit down with Matt Monday, an entrepreneur and former product lead at ESPN and Apple, who's on a mission to maximize human potential. Matt shares his remarkable journey from high-achieving corporate professional to mindfulness advocate and innovator in the world of AI-powered well-being.

From Apple to Awakening

Matt's story begins with an unexpected win of an iPod that led to a career at Apple, where he played a pivotal role in the App Store's early days. However, it wasn't until after leaving Apple that he discovered mindfulness through a chance encounter. This revelation set him on a path to explore the intersection of technology, personal growth, and human potential.

The Birth of VITAL: AI-Powered Mindfulness

At the heart of our conversation is VITAL, Matt's groundbreaking startup that's revolutionizing the meditation experience. VITAL combines cutting-edge AI technologies to create:

• Custom-crafted meditations on demand
• Personalized guidance based on user input
• A variety of meditation styles and techniques

What sets VITAL apart is its ability to generate meditations tailored to specific, real-time needs specific to your life, in a matter of seconds. This is where it gets real. Instead of a generic stress reduction meditation, you can create a specific meditation on "Help me to not get triggered by my Boss Bill, in company meetings. He's so disrespectful to people. " Choose the duration, voice, and music you want --and be listening in seconds.

Addressing AI Concerns

We tackle the elephant in the room: concerns about AI-led meditations. Matt offers reassurance about data privacy and explains how VITAL aims to augment, not replace, human meditation teachers and coaches.

The Future of Coaching and Well-being

Looking ahead, Matt shares his vision for VITAL's evolution, including:

• Expanding voice options and languages
• Developing more advanced coaching interfaces
• Creating specialized workshops with expert coaches

A Powerful Mantra

Matt leaves us with a thought-provoking phrase encapsulating his approach: "Awareness leads to clarity. Clarity leads to choice. Choice leads to transformation."

Whether you're a meditation novice, a seasoned practitioner, or a coach looking to enhance your offerings, this episode offers valuable insights into the future of mindfulness and personal development. Join us as we explore how technology and ancient wisdom converge to create new possibilities for human growth and well-being.

Takeaways:

• The journey towards mindfulness often begins with unexpected events that reshape our understanding of ourselves.
• Personal experiences, like making a wager with God, can lead to transformative insights about life.
• Being introduced to mindfulness and meditation can drastically change one's perspective on life.
• Coaching should be accessible to everyone, regardless of their ability to afford it.
• AI technology can enhance personal growth by providing customized meditation experiences for users.
• The evolution of meditation apps is moving towards personalized experiences that integrate mindfulness with technology.

Learn more about Matt at https://www.mattmonday.me/

Want to experience personalized mindfulness meditations like you've never seen before? Browse to https://joinvital.ai/

If you'd like to experience the power of somatic, mindful coaching, head over to The Mindful Coach and check it out.

The Mindful Coach podcast.

So welcome to this edition of the Mindful Coach Podcast.

I'm your host, Brett Hill and I'm super psyched today to welcome to the show Matt Monday.

And I've had such a great time conversing and working with Matt in the past year or so in his venture, which is going to blow your mind.

Let me introduce Matt.

He's an entrepreneur, startup consultant, former product lead and Apple.

He's on a mission to maximize human potential.

And let me tell you, that's not just a sound bite.

He truly is on that mission, more so than anybody I've ever met.

And that's a crazy thing to say in a way, but I mean, you'll see what I mean when you hear from firsthand the way that he holds like a calling to help humanity in a really big way, bigger than a whole lot of people.

And his, one of his main ventures right now with this is a startup called Vital and it's an AI powered, well being coach that does mindful meditations.

You aren't going to believe it.

So welcome to the show, Matt.

So great to have you here.

Great to be here.

Thank you, Brett.

It's an honor and it's a pleasure.

I'm excited to have you.

Had another great conversation with you today.

Oh yeah, yeah.

Matt and I talk from time to time.

He's always inspiring and, and that's one of the reasons I wanted to invite him to the show is because of his vision and it's not just sitting around.

I think I'm going to help people today.

He's actually doing the work of bringing the latest in technology.

Of course he comes from Apple where of course they're always inventing cool stuff.

There was your calling to work at Apple.

Were you called to work at Apple?

Did that work out?

Did that really land for you in terms of being able to align with, you know, who you are to help people?

Yeah, great question.

So, funny enough, I grew up a big PC guy.

I won an ipod in a raffle.

Oh, that's fun.

Yeah, that was my only like Apple, you know, experience.

I, I was really unsure what I wanted to do during college.

And right after college I had a bit of a knack for a broad range of things and focus areas which made it difficult to focus and pick one.

And so right before I got a job offer from Apple, I was actually studying for the lsat.

I was interested in becoming a lawyer.

Is that right?

Yeah.

But it ended up being an amazing fit at Apple.

I worked in itunes on the Marketing team as a data analyst.

I had a, you know, my degree was in finance, which was at that time, numbers and spreadsheets.

And that's what the marketing team needed.

So it was a really great fit.

And right as right after I joined the App Store launched and given my background in media and video games growing up, it was a great fit for me to move over to the App Store editorial team, whereas my role to basically play the games and give my vote on which ones would be the best to feature on the front page of the App Store each week.

And so it was a great, really great fit.

That's amazing.

And so somewhere were you into like mindfulness and meditation at that time?

Was that a part of your world?

I had no idea what it even was.

So I grew up, yeah, I grew up playing sports, so very much into performance.

I was, I was a wrestler on our, on our wrestling team in high school.

We won states.

So, you know, high performance, high achievement.

I was an academic all star in high school.

I got a scholarship in college.

I did, let's say I had as much fun as I did studying.

And that's to say I did, you know, both of those to the maximum and.

But I never learned about mindfulness.

It was only after I left Apple that I had a chance occurrence which introduced me to it.

Oh, wow, so you won the iPad that got you started with Apple, wound up working for Apple, then you leave Apple and another chance occurrence opens up a whole new door.

Can you tell us about what was that like, what you discovered?

Yeah, so at the time, I stumbled into it actually through an interest in religions outside of Christianity.

So I was born in a small town in Michigan.

My family went to church.

It happened to be a Christian church.

I had no say in that.

So I guess, you know, that made me a Christian until I.

Spite of fault.

Right?

Yeah.

Questions that, you know, people couldn't really answer or didn't really want to answer.

So I let it go for a bit and then I had an experience in college that kind of stuck with me.

Let's call it a wager I made with God, if God existed.

And long story short, I asked God, if you exist, help me pass this exam and I'll do whatever you want for the rest of my life.

Okay, A soul contract here.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So a contract more than a wager.

And that exam I actually had not studied for, I was guessing my way through it and I just knew it was going to be a problem if I didn't pass that exam.

I was going to lose my scholarship.

I was going to get kicked out of the honors college.

I was going to be in trouble.

So I made, I asked God, if you exist, help me pass this exam.

I'll do whatever you want for the rest of my life.

So that next day, I woke up and I got a 97 on that test.

Unbelievable.

Oh, shoot.

I guess I, yeah.

What is, what is God?

And what am I now supposed to do for God?

And so fast.

Fast forward to.

And I, I, I stumbled into a group on meetup where one of the attendees was a lady named Zoe Wild.

She offered wildlife coaching.

And I was like, all right, I like animals.

But I'm pretty sure this has nothing to do with animals.

So I looked up her profile, and she was a coach.

I had no idea what a coach was.

She had just come back from, I believe, Tibet.

She, you know, studied with Buddhist monks.

Wow.

And most importantly at this, this time, she had done a lot of research into the world's religions.

It's like, okay, let me ask this person what they think God might be.

And so I set up a time to meet with her, and she shared with me that there, you know, yes, there is a God, but there's much more to it than this in her mind.

And the beginnings of this, you know, she used a great analogy with me, is that imagine you're at the beach and you're looking into the ocean, and you see these very distinct waves.

They're so distinct that someone could even surf on one with a surfboard.

It's definitely a wave.

And those distinct waves are like us as people, Right?

We are distinct people on this planet.

But those waves are part of something much, much, much larger.

They're part of the entire ocean.

And the same way that those distinct waves are part of the entire ocean, us unique people are part of the entire universe.

And that that universe comes from God.

And we can tap into that through meditation.

And she walked me through a couple of guided meditations before introducing me into meditating without guidance.

And it was, it was pretty transformative for me.

I really saw life differently from that point on, still endeavoring to understand, okay, but what does God want me to do now?

And we can come back to more over the years, exploration into what that might be.

But that's, that was the beginning of meditation.

I will say that I let go of it for nearly a decade, maybe another, maybe half a decade, five years, until I was reintroduced to it.

But I'll pause there.

Well, that's amazing.

Story.

And I love the ocean analogy.

I actually use that a lot in my own work and my own.

The way I describe my own sense of being.

So I love that very much.

And I think without going, you know, two sideways on this, I think the problem is that people, people believe they are the wave and don't realize their ocean ness, you know.

And so that, I think, is the real value of meditation.

Clearly, it had an impact on you.

And so it's like you.

So here you are, you've had this technical background, you've had all these amazing experiences and kind of high performance and everything.

You basically are touching and gifted from God, the answers to the questions and then a real awakening with your inner work.

How does that then lead you to the startups that you've done, which get us into the conversation about vital.

Yeah, I think some of the stories going back to the Bible always kind of resonated with me where, you know, there's a question like, if someone is in dire straits and you have the capacity to help them, should you do that?

And there's examples of people doing that.

And that seemed like the right thing to do.

That felt like, okay, if I have the capacity to do this, I should do this.

And I'm not the first person to discover this at a young age.

Working at Apple, making a lot of money, having a very prestigious role, at least for where I was in my career, it felt like I was just achieving at this very high level, but it wasn't quite fulfilling me.

And I left Apple to embark on my first startup, which was an app to help people look up nonprofits so they could donate from their smartphone.

And behind the scenes on this was more transparency into where do your donations go and what are the organizations doing and what are the different types of organizations that are out there.

I remember that and other experiences.

I traveled to Brazil when I was younger and just the dramatic difference between people living in incredible mansions right next to slums of people that were, you know, so poor they almost didn't have clothes.

And just realizing, like, wow, that there's.

There's something in about life that feels a little bit off to me.

So when I ended up shutting that down and I long, you know, I'll fast forward to say I worked at ESPN for a while.

I built more products, and then I went to an app design and development agency Building more digital products.

And while I was there, the leadership team was really kind.

They offered to let me work with an executive leadership coach.

And this individual had a slightly different take on coaching.

He incorporated mindfulness as part of not just tapping into the broader universe, but also for practicing a muscle of awareness, something that I was really unfamiliar with at the time, like basically completely ignorant of.

What does it mean to be aware, aware of my breath, aware of myself, aware of my emotions.

And so with that and many other things that this individual changed my life.

His name is Helga Hellberg.

He's a great, great individual, great guy.

And he had an idea to take his one on one coaching and do a one to many digital platform.

So that digital platform was the beginning of me really endeavoring into not just social impact broadly, but really impact on individuals by transforming how they think of themselves and then therefore how they lead their own lives and can lead others through that.

And, and so that was, you know, that was like a pretty big shift.

I learned a lot in that trying to build this digital coaching platform.

I, we ended up shutting it down, but it stuck with me and it's still with me today.

And that's kind of the genesis of how I got in touch with the VITAL team, which I joined last year.

So tell us a bit about the vision of Vital.

What does VITAL do?

Yeah, we'll come back to the vision.

What it does today is pretty revolutionary.

It is way ahead of its time.

The original co founders were the very first in the world, at least that we're aware of, to combine several new AI technologies, including the ability to take text from an output like a script and turn that into a voice, and then to create text based off of inputs into a large language model like ChatGPT.

And they combine it with beautiful music to essentially create these custom crafted meditations built on demand, uniquely for each user in the moment they want that meditation.

So anytime you want a custom meditation, you tell it what you want.

It takes a couple seconds to input it and then you hit generate and you get a beautiful guided meditation, whether it's a visualization, loving kindness, affirmations, mindfulness.

And it's a really interesting way to get into meditation for the first time ever.

People who have been meditating for years love it because they know that they can craft just the right meditation to help them shift their mindset.

So in a sense, it's almost like micro coaching sessions for them.

And that's really the opportunity that I saw around how important awareness is and mindfulness is to coaching.

That we could use this medit, this custom med, you know, AI powered meditation app as a base layer for doing more advanced coaching where we're allowing the technology to ask you questions and give, you know, help you reflect on your own thoughts, guide you towards new habits, help you explore your goals, help you explore your values.

So that's like future for future.

And we just started experimenting with that.

That's amazing.

And as you know, but you know, probably great for others to know is we have a strong belief that we don't want this app to replace the great meditation teachers that are out there, the great coaches that are out there in the future.

You know, this, we can see this moving into a world of therapy and beyond.

We really want vital to augment the work that great professionals like yourself are already doing in the world.

And so that's why we're really kind of shaping it as almost like a marketplace where you can select from a range of voices.

These voices are the voices of actual individuals that we have cloned with this technology.

And so today, not only can you hear different voices for each meditation, but soon you'll be able to have a slightly different experience depending on the voice that you engage with.

And as we continue to work together with, with our coaches, we'll offer the ability for the back and forth sessions to.

To be really built around the philosophies and the frameworks and the methodologies of each coach that we partner with.

So modifying it a bit based on the actual coach for the.

That the voices from.

Exactly.

So it's representing something of the philosophy, point of view, beliefs and practices of that particular.

That's amazing.

I want to come back just a minute because I think one of the things, I think it's quickly overlooked and under stated is what you mentioned about the capacity to be able to request the kind of meditation you want.

And I don't mean like loving kindness or attention, but more like on the topic that you want right now, that's one of the most powerful things.

And so for listeners, it's like you can go to joinvital AI and when you're there and you have an account, you can log in and it'll ask you what do you want to meditate on?

What is the topic that's on your mind like now Help me go to sleep because my mind is racing about this important interview I have tomorrow.

You can even.

Because it's you and AI.

You can even go so far as you know, my cousin Bob is just being a jerk and I can't stop Freaking out about it help me calm down.

And the meditation will be specifically framed around that particular detail in your particular life at this particular time.

That is, that blows my mind.

And in terms of functionality and practicality for in the moment needs.

It's so it can serve not only as a part of an ongoing process, but what I call.

I haven't put this on the list, but I think I should now.

But join Vital is one of my.

I have about five things I call mindful triage and this could be one of them.

You know, it's pretty amazing.

Absolutely.

Yeah.

And that triage is exactly right.

It's it.

Because it's so fast.

Right.

And unlike your traditional meditation apps where you are browsing a catalog of pre recorded content and not to say it's not good content, but it's really tough to find the.

Hey, my, my boss Bobby, you know, was upset at me again for something that I thought we were on the same page about.

I don't know what to do.

It's going to be hard to find that meditation and calm.

I'm going to, you know, guarantee that it doesn't exist.

Well, yeah, and so, and, and you can, you can input that by tapping the record button.

You say it in five seconds, you hit generate.

Ten seconds later you're listening to something on that, you know, it's on that topic and it's very unbiased, it's very caring, it's very supportive.

And so it lowers your cortisol levels almost immediately.

It really makes you feel heard, it makes you feel supported.

And within like a couple minutes you will feel completely different than you were feeling just prior and amazing.

And practice these concepts that there's tweaks to it.

Right.

I had never done affirmations before I discovered Vital.

So saying nice words about yourself can have a really profound impact.

And vital, that's a really good one.

Exactly.

Yeah.

And so we.

If you've never done that before, Vital will literally guide you on how to do it.

And then you don't need to use the app.

Any given day when you're kind of feeling down, just remind yourself like, no, I am, you know, great.

I am this, I am positive, and so on and so forth.

Same goes with loving kindness, same goes with mindfulness, same goes with visualization.

We have eight techniques in total, including unguided, which is now what I use the most to basically, you know, tap into that, that broader universe of everything.

And we have a streak counter as well.

So the way I think of it is when I see my Streaks going up.

I know that's correlated with feeling really great on a regular basis.

That's cool.

You've got some metrics of there as well.

That's right.

People can check this out because it is an amazing forward thinking application.

Before we ask the next question, you can change the music, the voice, the duration, the kind of meditation that it is.

Are there any other tweaks that you can manage?

Yeah, well, language is a big one, so we have five.

Oh, yeah, huge.

So we have customers all around the world.

Spanish, French, German, Japanese, Italian and English.

Sorry.

Yeah.

And we also have the ability to save meditations on the iPhone app we have for Android users.

We have a web app version and with that one you can share meditations with your friends.

And much more on the way.

Much more on the way.

That's really exciting.

I know you are.

You know, this really aligns with your bigger vision of the world and the way you were just, you were starting out about how do I help the world?

It's like there's clearly some things that aren't right here.

And I really appreciate that about you.

One of the questions I wanted to ask is sort of the counterpoint to this, which is like, what would you.

What do you say to people that are worried about an AI leading a meditation?

Well, I say you should because we're stealing all your information.

No, I'm just kidding.

So it's under.

It's really understandable, you know, if you're not in tech, if your career has not been in technology.

AI can be a pretty broad term.

Does that mean robots?

Yes, it does.

Right.

Does that mean backend analytical systems to predict what movie to put in front of you to watch next?

Yes, that's also AI, like Netflix or.

Prime, you're saying, suggested for you.

Yeah.

So AI is this really broad term.

And you know, it does get into this world of conversations.

And there are people I've heard of, like training in AI that uses data to inform these models.

Well, is it your data when you're talking to it?

No, that's not how you're training the model necessarily.

You can use, you know, and so there's all these caveats that if you're being really honest with people, it can get confusing.

So the first thing we say is like, look, we get it.

And most important is we don't use your data for anything that we're doing.

It's all private, secure.

That is not part of our business model.

It's a simple transaction after the.

You get to try it unlimited as Much as you want for seven days.

And then if you want to continue to use it, it's $9.99 a month.

That's the transaction.

We don't, we don't use your data like a social network would to put ads in front of you or to do anything with the model.

So just if I could interject real quick.

So what you're saying is that if someone says, hey, my brother Joe is being mean to me, how do I calm down?

You're not taking that prompt and saving it, using it to inform the model so it's just like a one time prompt and then it goes away.

That's right.

That's right.

Okay.

And there was another piece I was going to share, but.

Oh, then there's people have a little bit of hesitation around just the philosophy of should I let a robot give me a meditation?

No, it's only for humans.

And I get that as well.

It's like, yes, it would be great if you had your own personal human with you at all times to give you.

That is better.

That would be great.

But you can't always have Brett Hill with, with you to, you know, walk you through whatever you're working through at 2am in the morning.

Well, unless you've got Vital, then you can pick and then you do.

Because in full disclosure, I am a voice on the application then so.

Yeah, yes.

Yeah.

A big fan favorite for sure.

So.

Oh, thank you.

You know, this happened last night.

I was actually at a birthday event and several of the people there are coaches themselves and just got on the topic of AI and shared with them that I have this app and there was certain hesitation, if not outright disdain for the concept.

I'm not going to try to sell you on it, but would you like to hear it?

And so we did a meditation and I think we turned the person who is most against it into the biggest fan.

Isn't that interesting?

It's like raw energy, so negative can also.

That same energy can be so positive.

And it's.

That's just brilliant that you said, I'm not going to tell you about it.

I'm going to have you do it because the experience is everything.

Really smart.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

So I think over time, as people have an opportunity to engage with new AI based products, their appetite and their willingness for trying something like Vital will hopefully increase.

Most of our current customers are, they're innovators, they're technologists.

They were actually thinking of building Vital themselves.

They found us and they're like, oh, use what you guys already have.

So we know we're very early with what we're doing and hopefully thanks to you and opportunities like this to speak directly to folks, this can help quell some concerns that the AI is not going to give you bad advice.

It's not using your data to do anything with that and really just got to try it to really get a feel for it.

Yeah.

And I want to say, coming back to that, as a coach who works with people in this area, I have plans and they're very close to integrate Vital as a part of my coaching offering.

Like, for example, I'm just about ready to come out with a mindful communications sequence to help people really, really learn some interest, some new ways to learn how to be more mindful and present in conversation with others.

And I want to use VITAL as a way to lock in the practices that I'm helping to people, asking people to do every week.

It'd be an amazing support system for that.

And so coaches can use it as a way to augment their offering.

And if anyone's interested in that, reach out to me because I'll be happy to walk you through how that can work.

And you can also look at my own@themindfulness.com in about a week that should be up.

And I don't normally foreshadow stuff like that.

It's just that I'm really excited about it and.

Yeah.

And it's going to be a lot of fun.

Awesome.

This is so good.

All your stuff.

It's like, you know, you're, you've talked a little bit about, you know, the future for Vital in terms of having actual coaching orientations and processings for that.

So is that the kind of thing that.

How far out do you think something like that is?

And I hate to ask you a roadmap question like that, but it's like, you know, where are you a year from now?

What do you think Vital is going to be able to mean to people?

Hopefully, at a bare minimum, it serves as a really great eye opener into the world of coaching.

Which is to say, I think especially in America, so many people kind of assume if I, you know, I've heard what I have from my parents and I heard what I have from my teachers, I kind of know everything I need to know.

Well, that's, that's really not true.

Even, even people who study the brain are learning new things about the brain all the time.

And not every one of your teachers is a brain expert.

And one of the most important things I think about that I think we as human beings need to understand is how does our brain work, how does our nervous system work, how does that work for us and how does that possibly work against us, even if it's not our own fault?

By the time you are old enough, it becomes your responsibility to take action on things that are no longer serving you.

But it's really hard to do on your own.

That's where a great coach can sit with you, get to know you and start to get a feel for what questions can they ask you to help you illuminate in your mind what's maybe working and what's not working and possibly why.

And then to continue to pull on that thread to get you to a point where you're kind of choosing new ways of responding and thinking and acting and behaving over time to really transform your life.

That, to me, I think is something that every single person on the planet should have access to.

And the problem is there's just not enough people like you, Brett.

There are just not enough.

And you.

Well, and so that's why we want, we want to, you know, create a stepping stone.

Because the other challenge is even if you know of a great coach, not everyone can afford a great coach or they're not sure that leap.

And so being able to have a bit of an experience with an AI version of a great coach before going into the one on one, that's what we hope to do.

And so powerful.

Yeah.

Thank you.

And so by this time next year, we're going to have more voices.

We have three new ones on the way that are joining soon.

We'll probably have another 10 to 20 actual coaches on the platform next year.

And while we have a long list of meditation oriented features that our customers are asking us for, that'll all be added here soon.

The next big thing that we'll likely be working on next year and hopefully launch by this time is more of a conversational interface that really remembers what's important to you and helps to illuminate your understanding of yourself, your values, your goals, the habits you want to have.

And with that can help you identify areas where maybe it's it's in the family pillar of your life or the financial pillar of your life.

Where are you?

Not quite where you want to be and how do you focus on making adjustments to get to where you want to be?

The basics of coaching, I'd like to call it.

And, and we hope to have that, you know, by this time next year.

And then the following year would be the More advanced workshops where if you want, you know, if you are specifically a coach yourself and want to work with a coach of the coaches, when you engage with Brett Hill on Vital, you'll have that more specific type of workshop.

We hoped out for that.

It's really an incredible vision.

And it's not just a vision.

This is actual bits in the net you can buy today and a service you can actually make use of today that provides significant value but framed and motivated by vision.

And I.

And it's a powerful one.

And I think, you know, democratizing coaching in a way.

And in your story, I can hear you say, you know, how the coaches have really opened doors for you.

And you're also, in some ways, you're positioning without explicitly saying that, you know, Vital is like a coaching.

A coaching ambassador in a way.

It's like trying to help coaching reach more people, people that can't reach otherwise.

And that's one of the big, big exclamation points I would put out there, is that a platform like this can help people who would never pick up the phone or find a coach.

One on one can have a coaching experience that can open big doors for them that might lead them to a one on one or deeper experience.

Yep, really great stuff on.

On Matt's website, which I'll put links to.

He has this one phrase which I wanted to read before we summarize, which is, awareness leads to clarity.

Clarity leads to choice, and choice leads to transformation.

I love that so much.

Awareness leads to clarity.

Clarity leads to choice.

Choice leads to transformation.

Boom.

That's amazing.

Well, thank you, Matt.

It's been great having you here.

Is there anything else you want to say to our listeners before we wrap up?

Well, thank you, Brett, not only for being a part of Vital, but also just plugging a couple of my friends that I know have also worked with you directly and the great things that they say about working with you.

Thank you.

It's encouraging for me to recommend you to people in my network and to know that people have such glowing reviews.

So you're a great human being.

I am very appreciative of you and what you do, and I'm really excited for what the future holds for both of us.

Well, I appreciate that this is a real life.

Our listeners are kind of participating in witnessing what I call the circle of qualities.

Like when you yourself try to manifest things at a certain level, you wind up resonating and vibing and connecting with other people who are also at that thing.

And if you all stay connected, you uplevel, the whole circle.

And then everybody that they influence also is upleveled.

And this is why I say to the members of the Mindful Coach association that, you know, we sometimes get stuck in the idea that I can't transform the world, but I want you to know, and I mean this from the bottom, the deepest parts of me, that together we are a mighty force.

You know, we are.

You might think you're a wave, but we are the ocean of waves, and.

And together, that is an incredible force.

So thank you once again, man, for stepping in and owning your influence and trying to make a big difference.

I really appreciate it.

On behalf of the world, I appreciate that.

I think you got the message, by the way, from your.

Your.

I'm gonna.

I'm gonna do whatever I need to if I can pass this test.

I think you're doing it.

Thank you.

I hope so.

I hope so.

All right.

Thank you again.

And that's it for this episode of the Mindful Coach Podcast.

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And until next time, this is Brett.

Thank you.

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