In this episode Justin informs the listeners of the latest news including the DFB pokal semi-final draw as Die Roten Bullen have drawn an unfavourable opponent and after another disappointing performance and result for RB Leipzig, Marcel Schäfer didn't want to comment on the growing pressure on head coach Marco Rose leaving fans in the lurch as fans struggle to find answers on where the club is heading. We recap the 2-1 loss to Manz successfully predicted in the previous episode and look at player watch players for that game and our next game against SC Freburg in the Bundesliga along with predictions, with rounding out the show with the RBL talk segment.
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Intro Music
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:Playing
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:Justin: Hello, everyone,
and welcome to RBL Talk.
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:On today's show, we have some club news.
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:We recap the 2 1 defeat to Mainz in the
Bundesliga that was successfully predicted
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:by the podcast in the previous episode.
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:Our preview matchday 25 in the
Bundesliga against SC Freiburg.
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:We will also have player watch
and a predictions analysis.
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:And also in the RBL talk segment,
your listener, input on the show.
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:In club news in this episode, Marco
Rosa comments on lethargic RB Leipzig.
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:We lost energy.
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:RB Leipzig head coach Marco Rose's
concerns that his team might be tiring
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:out manifested in a grim reality
on Saturday afternoon in Mainz.
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:The German Red Bulls dropped
a crucial Bundesliga fixture
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:to European rivals Mainz 05.
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:The match very much served
as a European six pointer.
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:Matters couldn't have gotten worse
for Rose's side, who looked very
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:lethargic after Chavi Simmons
opened the scoring in the minute
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:before Mainz went on to win 2 1.
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:Mainz and Leipzig entered the contest
deadlocked on 38 league points.
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:The result now sees Mines open
up a three point gap and move
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:into fourth place, while Rose's
Saxons remain mirrored in sixth.
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:Wolfsburg, Borussia Mönchengladbach
and Dortmund, all winners on Saturday,
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:nip at Leipzig's heels in the race
for the second Europa League place.
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:Stuttgart too are within
easy striking distance.
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:Rose found himself unable to rest as
many players as he might have liked.
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:Emoto Hidara, for Kevin Campbell,
served as the lone outfield change.
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:The team effectively ran out
of ideas after the early goals.
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:Matters could have been much
worse, still as minds played.
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:Piled on toward the end, Rose lamented
the fact that a thin squad appreciated him
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:from making personal changes on the half.
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:On the bench today, attacking
options were slim, Rose noted.
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:After a good opening 10
minutes, we lost energy.
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:Little by little, you could tell at
the end of the first half that minds
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:were getting into the game better.
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:We sensed that we would
need changes today.
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:Now it's not time to recharge
and engage in a razor sharp
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:training week, Rose concluded.
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:Three coaches in Leipzig's
shortlist for next season.
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:Despite a home defeat at the
hands of a club he used to play
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:for, Marco Rose will most likely
finish the season with RB Leipzig.
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:However, the club is already
preparing for next season.
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:RB Leipzig face another
slump in the Bundesliga.
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:With the 2 1 defeat to Mainz,
as a Bo Henriksen side now
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:jumped 2 4th in the standings.
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:For now, qualifying for the DFB Pokal
semi final would give Marco Rosa the
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:chance to end the season in the dugout.
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:However Their working relationship
is seeing its final days after
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:an underwhelming season in both
Bundesliga and Champions League.
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:Sky now reports that there are
already three names on Leipzig's
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:shortlist for replacement.
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:While his name was first linked with
the club a few months ago, Eric Ten
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:Hag is surprisingly not on the list.
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:Meanwhile, Stuttgart's Sebastian
Honess is top of their wishlist, as
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:the news was also confirmed by Kickr.
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:There is a release clause
of around 8 million euro in
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:Honess's contract at Stuttgart.
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:On Friday the 42 year old played down
Leipzig's interest as he always maintains
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:constant contact with Stuttgart.
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:Stuttgart and Leipzig could cross
paths in today's Pokal final semi draw.
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:According to Sky, Oliver
Glasner is another name
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:currently discussed at Leipzig.
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:The Europa League winning coach is
enjoying his time with Crystal Palace
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:after a difficult start to the season.
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:Marcel Schaffer's involvement could
certainly help Leipzig's case.
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:But it'll take a huge effort
to bring back the 50 year old
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:Austrian back to the Bundesliga.
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:Roger Schmidt, who has been without a
club since August, rounds up the list.
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:Due to his previous spell in RB Salzburg,
Schmidt looks to be the perfect candidate
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:for the required RB principals, as
Leipzig aim for a fresh start next season.
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:Leipzig boss refuses to commit
on under fire Rosa's future
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:after latest disappointment.
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:After another disappointing performance
and result for RB Leipzig, Marcel Schaffer
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:didn't want to comment on the growing
pressure on head coach Marco Rosa.
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:After an engaging 1 0 win over Wolfsburg
in the DFB Pokal in midweek, RB
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:Leipzig was sent crashing back down
to earth with a 1 2 defeat at home to
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:Mainz in the Bundesliga on Saturday.
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:The defeat puts further pressure on the
shoulders of RB Leipzig coach Marco Rosa.
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:On previous occasions, the 48
year old has been backed by his
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:superiors to remain in charge.
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:This time, however, Leipzig's
managing director for sport,
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:Marcel Schaffer, wouldn't comment.
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:One interpretation is that Schaffer
didn't want to back Rose without
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:consulting Red Bull management.
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:After all, it is not just Schaffer
who decides on coaching matters,
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:but also the likes of Supervisory
Board Chairman Oliver Mintzlaff and
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:Head of Global Soccer Jurgen Klopp.
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:Rose himself felt his team lacked energy.
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:There were two moments where we
simply didn't defend well enough.
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:We didn't play with the kind
of energy that we need to.
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:We didn't put enough pressure
on them when they had possession
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:and didn't chase back enough.
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:Rose said we more or less invited
them onto us and didn't work hard
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:enough at either end of the pitch.
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:We didn't turn up in the
period, which decided the game.
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:One thing is certain, with Leipzig
having won just one of their last eight
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:Bundesliga games, the upcoming clash with
Freiburg will be crucial, as well with the
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:following match against Borussia Dortmund.
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:And final piece of club news for
this episode is the cup draw.
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:Leverkusen play third tier Bayerfeld
and Leipzig away at Stuttgart.
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:Cup favourites Bayer Leverkusen
will be away at third tier club
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:Armenia Bayerfeld in the last four.
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:Meanwhile RB Leipzig's under
fire coach Marco Rosa will face
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:a tricky trip to VfB Stuttgart.
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:As Sebastian Honess side
Get another home time.
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:Three leaguers at fifth place side
knocked out three Bundesliga clubs in
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:their historic run in the cup semifinal.
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:Mitch Kanat, who is younger than Xabi
Alonso, will be hoping to secure a
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:first POCAL final for Bayer Field.
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:Recent two time champions
Leipzig lost in both of their
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:last two trips to the MHP arena.
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:The Swabians last won the cup in 1996
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:and Gervain Eber were in their ranks.
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:That's all for the club
news on this episode.
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:As always, you can find all RBL Library
Club news from credible sources all around
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:the internet on the homepage at rbltalk.
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:com.
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:Now to preview the game against minds,
with the good, the bad and the ugly.
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:In these cases it's always hard to find
some things that are good, because the
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:brain always thinks of the negative,
but we do have some good things to say.
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:I only committed 8 fouls,
mines committed 15.
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:More shots inside the
box, with 10 out of 13.
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:Only offside once, only one yellow
card, and 27 touches in the mines box.
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:Mines also had the same, not
bad, but it could be better.
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:Now for the bad.
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:We look lost, out of position
often, no shape in our formation.
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:We miss two big chances.
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:Only 4 of 13 shots were on target.
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:That's just 30.
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:76%.
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:Substitutions were poor
after going down 2 1.
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:Taking off for Penda.
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:him out wide to the right, player 3
4 3 flat, Chavi on the left, Sesko in
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:the middle and Appender on the right
out wide and you keep the midfield
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:4 the same along with the back 3.
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:You can make changes in the middle and the
back line but you don't take Appender off.
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:Yes, he's playing poorly for the
output but he has that pace and can
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:cause defenders and defences trouble
and cause opportunities to arise by
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:putting defenders under pressure.
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:Too many passes in our own
half, 212 of 518 were in our own
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:half, 191 in the mine's half.
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:Poor on the contest, we lost the duels.
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:53 to 65, ground at 44 percent
success rate and aerial at
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:47 percent success rate.
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:The keeper only made one save.
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:Why did van der Voort get dropped?
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:When he was close to, if not
best on ground in the DFB
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:Pokal, just a few days before.
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:And you can't say team
management for fatigue.
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:He is barely played.
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:Pathetic squad rate selections
and rotations by Marco Rosa.
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:Finally, poor distribution.
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:Only 28 percent accurate crosses, total of
5, 39 percent accurate long balls, total
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:of 19, and 78 percent of regular passes.
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:You want around at least 82
percent for just regular passing.
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:And now for the ugly.
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:Marco Rose's tactics.
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:The club is going backwards, and yes,
it's going to be hard to find a long
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:term replacement before season's end.
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:But if we don't get an interim coach,
we won't play European football,
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:especially if we lose and drop
points with our next five games.
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:That being said, the club has said
they plan on a fresh start next
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:season, whether that means with
Marco Rosa or not, time will tell.
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:Now Marco Rosa is not the sole problem
of the problems that we currently have.
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:There is some management issues above him.
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:There is squad issues, which some as
partly to blame for Marco Rosa, such
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:as morale and possibly squad depth.
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:However, the latter is actually more
of a management issue as they're
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:the ones that control the signings.
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:Three things we learned.
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:V mines number one.
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:Many local fans are deluded by just
how bad we are under Marco Rosa,
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:chanting and accepting mediocrity.
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:Maybe we should become the Arnsberg
of the league, finish lower end to mid
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:table each year, and they'll be happy
as long as Marco Rosa is the manager.
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:Number two.
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:We are now in a downward spiral.
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:How far will we go come season's end?
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:Don't expect anything
big until next season.
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:But the season is done.
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:And number three Squad
depth isn't good enough.
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:Yes, I've been critical of
Marco Rosa, and rightfully so.
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:However, we also have to admit, the
squad and players are good enough.
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:Players are playing for themselves,
don't care about the club, and are only
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:going out there to get paid it seems.
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:Our leadership group also needs to
show some guts, and so does Marco Rosa.
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:Be honest about the internal problems,
and the squad, and what is lacking.
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:Those that can see, know what I'm talking
about, and if you don't, I hope you'll
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:be enlightened sooner rather than later.
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:As we go into the detailed summary and
recap of the Mines game, we will have
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:a look at the player watch players.
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:And they were David Raum for RBL,
and for Mines was Robin Zentner.
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:David played the full 90 minutes, had
89 touches, attempted 37 of 49 passes
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:at an accuracy of 76%, attempted 11
passes, only 3 accurate, attempted 6
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:long balls, only 1 came off, attempted
1 dribble, and it didn't come off.
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:was in six ground duels, he won four
of them, and he was also in three
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:aerial duels, which he won two.
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:Lost possession 25 times, was
fouled once, made two clearances,
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:and made three tackles.
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:According to the OneFootball
app, Raumi was rated a 5.
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:0, and I would rate him a 5.
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:5, as he lost possession 25 times,
which didn't help the game plan.
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:Robin Zenner, who was the mine's
goalkeeper, played the full 90 minutes,
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:had 48 touches, made two saves, one
higher claim, made 27 of 41 passes at 66%.
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:Most of the long balls of
the 27, 26 of them were long
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:balls, and only 12 came off.
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:According to the one football
app, he was rated a 6.1
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:and I would rate him a 6.8.
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:Mainz completed an important comeback
against European rivals RB Leipzig
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:to prevail 2 1 and climb up into
4th spot in the Bundesliga as they
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:continue their quest for a maiden
UEFA Champions League qualification.
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:A whopping 30 points separated these
two sides last season, but they
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:came into this clash with only goal
difference keeping Leipzig below Mainz.
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:The Red Bulls were keen for that
to remain the case come full time.
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:Though, and started in lightning quick
fashion, not even a minute was on the
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:clock when the host took the lead,
with Chavis Simmons steering home from
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:close range after Amadou Haidara's
initial effort was sensationally
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:blocked six yards from goal.
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:The Malian had another chance to get
on the score sheet soon after, but this
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:time he could only fire wide when he
ought to have doubled their advantage.
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:It was largely an onslaught
towards the mine's goal in the
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:first half, as the visitors spent
most of their time defending.
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:They let their standard slip for a
moment midway through the half and were
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:almost punished, but Benjamin Sesko's
effort flew inches wide of the target.
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:Mines could surely only improve
after the break, and that proved
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:to be true within 10 minutes of the
restart when the visitors drew level.
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:Paul Neubel was the provider, working
his way to the byline before cutting the
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:ball back for Nadim Amiri to sweep home.
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:Mines tales were firmly up by that
point and they came close to moving
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:ahead just moments later when Li
Jiang Song headed narrowly over.
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:Lobzig didn't heed that warning and soon
found themselves behind for the first time
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:on the afternoon when equalizing scorer
Amiri was again involved, threading the
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:ball through for Jonathan Burkhardt, who
Swivelled in the area and saw his left
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:foot effort nestle into the far corner.
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:Amira was proving to be the thorn in the
hosts side and he could have wrapped up
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:the game up 15 minutes later from time
but his effort crashed back off the post.
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:That failure to put the game to
bed, set up a nerving ending for the
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:visitors but they defended admirably.
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:to see out a third successful league
win and open up a nice gap over a rival.
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:Leipzig meanwhile now have to work
to do, to close the gap to the top
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:four, leaving under pressure boss
Marco Rosa under even more scrutiny.
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:Now let's talk those three goals.
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:The first goal was a goal for
RBL in the first minute of play.
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:The build up play started with a recovery
from Chad Bishabu from a poor throwing
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:from Mainz on the right hand side as the
ball missed everyone and went centrally.
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:Bishabu passed directly in front of him
to Amadou Haidara in the center circle.
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:His forward pass was to Benjamin Sesko.
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:Just slightly in front of him.
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:Sesuke then turned and dribbled towards
goal, passing once in the final third.
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:His pass went into the box to Lewis
Appenda, attempting to square the ball
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:towards the penalty spot as he was
running towards the byline of the goals.
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:Amadou Haidara met the ball and
attempted to shoot at goal, got a fresh
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:airy and missed everything which was
fortunate as it fell for Chavi Simmons
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:who made a right footed shot from very
close range to the top left corner.
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:This goal looked messy but boy
was it effective and just took 15
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:seconds from start of play to finish.
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:The second goal and the first goal
for mine's build up play started
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:as Chavi Simmons took on Moritz
Jens and lost his challenge.
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:The second goal and first goal for
Mainz build up play started as Xavi
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:Simmonds took on Moritz Jens and lost.
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:As his challenge was successful, Jens
couldn't control the ball after his
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:challenge, as the ball spilled free
with a recovery from Jay Lee Sung.
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:He ran towards the left flank for Mainz.
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:He passed through Philip Mai as three
RBL players were chasing him, Arthur
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:Vermin, Amadou Hira, and Ra Baku.
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:He managed to pass centrally between all
three of them to Nadiem Amir, who switched
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:the play to the right with a pass to Paul
Bel, who passed back to Amir centrally
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:with his pass heading into the box to
Jonathan Burkhart, who did a lovely.
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:little first time flick pass to Paul
Neubuhl who took a shot which was blocked
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:and parried by Peter Galacci with his legs
from his near post, the right goal post.
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:Unfortunately for him and for
the RBL the ball went centrally
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:where a lot of the players were.
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:Gattruda cleared the ball not very far as
Amadou Haidara had to recover the ball.
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:He then lost the ball with a quick
chain of Keishu Sano, Anthony Kaki,
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:Paul Nibble, linking up towards the left
side of the pitch with a pass by Nibble
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:getting a deflection of Willie Orban
and Nadim Amiri bearing home the finish
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:with a right footed shot from the centre
of the box to the centre of the goal.
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:Now how could we have prevented this one?
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:The simplistic answer is don't
lose the ball in a dangerous area.
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:Not even being able to get the
ball out of your defensive third.
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:Next, we had Gertruda, Bishoebu
ball watching, and trying to
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:run towards goal for no reason.
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:Galachi is protecting the near post.
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:At this stage, man mark,
or use zonal defense.
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:Don't just be drawn to
the ball because of this.
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:Gatruda, Bishabu, and Raidou
Baku get caught out here.
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:These three players need to be better
at their defensive positioning, as
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:the eventual goal scorer gets a clear
hit at it with nobody around him.
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:He would have had enough
time before he put it in.
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:His foot through it and be put
under pressure if he decided not
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:to take a first time shot a goal
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:The third and final goal of the
game, and second for Mines, came six
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:minutes later, in the 58th minute.
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:The build up play for Mines started from
a free kick, as Amadou Haidara gave away
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:a cheap free by misplacing his foot and
tripping up Nadim Amiri accidentally.
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:They moved the dead ball to the
right, and tried attacking down
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:there after a clearance from Bishebu.
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:The ball went back to Mines, and they
moved the play from right to left.
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:Center down the left side and back
into the center with the final pass
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:into the box coming from Nadeem Amiri
to Mainz captain Jonathan Burkhardt,
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:who then took a left footed shot from
the left side of the box to where
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:Peter Galacci was standing in the center
of the goal, although off balance,
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:it easily went past Peter Galacci.
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:Now how could we have prevented this one?
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:It's very hard to defend
against one touch passing.
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:Burkhardt nutmegs Chad Peshabu, and
he could've and probably should've
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:put a challenge in, but Peter
Galacci just fell to the floor like
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:a sack of potatoes, a very poor
attempt at a save from, apparently,
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:the Bundesliga's best goalkeeper.
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:Also, in the build up play, Aja
Vermeeren needed to put in a better
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:challenge on the assister Amiri.
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:I would have been more happy
giving away a foul there, and
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:being able to defend a free kick.
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:Instead, Arthur Vermeeren decides to go
for the challenge, and then, by the looks
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:of things, pulls out halfway through.
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:The best players for RBL were
Chubby Simmons, who created the
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:most chances, four in the match.
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:And Arthur Vermeeren, who was the most
accurate passer to play 45 minutes
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:or more, with an accuracy of 93%.
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:The best players for Mines were Naidim
Amiri, who completed the most passes
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:of the match with a 65, Jonathan
Burkhardt, Jae Song Lee, Anthony
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:Akaki, Andreas Hansa Olsson, Moritz
Jens who had the most tackles in the
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:match with five and Kaishu Sano who won
the most duels in the match with 10.
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:That's all for the
review of the Minds game.
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:Now onto suspensions and
an injury list update.
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:Antonio Nusa, with a knee injury.
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:His estimated return date is late March.
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:Osano Drago, hamstring injury.
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:His estimated return date is mid April.
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:Xavier Schlager, knee injury.
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:His estimated return date is May 2025.
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:And Benjamin Henricks,
Achilles tendon injury.
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:Estimated return date, end of season.
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:To preview the SC Freiburg game in
the Bundesliga, Freiburg are on a
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:five game run of not having lost a
game since January, when they got
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:beaten by Bayern Munich 2 1, with
wins over Bochum, Heidenheim, St.
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:Pauli, Wörterbremen, and most
recently a draw against Arnsburg.
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:There are questions around injured
players, Daniel Kofi Kairer, Manuel Gaudet
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:and Max Rosenfelder, with the latter a
possibility to play against Ayrton Bullen.
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:RBL on the other hand, already
missing four players, with questions
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:around Christoph Baumgartner,
who is suffering a small illness.
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:Most recently, RBL have been able to score
at least three goals against Freiburg,
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:and the history between the two is
pretty even in Freiburg, as RBL have won
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:five, Freiburg won four, and two draws
being played out in the eleven games.
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:RBL are going to want to dust themselves
off and show the Bundesliga that they
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:are still a top four candidate, as right
now, to the Bundesliga community and
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:RBL fans, we are not a top four side.
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:Anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional
and can't grasp the actual positioning
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:of the club and where we're currently at.
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:I hate to say it, but we are
not currently a top four side.
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:Some interesting match facts leading
into this game are, Freiburg are ranked
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:third at home so far this season.
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:Freiburg have scored nine goals
in their last five matches.
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:Freiburg have won all four
times against RBL at home.
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:RBL have scored 6 goals
in their last 5 matches.
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:And RBL haven't lost to Freiburg
in their last 12 meetings, with
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:9 wins and 3 draws being played.
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:The player watch for both sides will
be, for Freiburg, it's Ritsu Doan.
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:Doan has been one of the best
for Freiburg this season.
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:He has added to his game with the
ability to score and assist with goals.
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:He can turn the game
in favour for his side.
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:There is also an honourable mention for
Vincenzo Griffo, as he's created the
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:most big chances for Freiburg with 11.
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:For RBL, it's Petty Galacci.
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:I fully expect him to still be
between the posts in the next
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:game, seeing as Marco Rosa doesn't
rotate that goalkeeping position.
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:Joining first now for the most clean
sheets in the Bundesliga this season
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:with Emanuel Neuer with 11, Galachi
has conceded 32 of the 33 goals RBL
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:has conceded so far this season.
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:He needs to pull his finger out
if we're going to get a top four
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:finish this season, if he is still
insisted being picked by Marco Rosa.
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:There's also an honourable
mention for Luis Appenda.
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:As he has the most shots on target
per match for RBL, averaging 1.
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:5 shots per game on target.
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:Now what I'd like to see in
this match with my line up.
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:If we're serious about turning our
season around and getting out of the
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:spiral, Marco Rosa needs to be pulled up.
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:Go back to basics.
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:Van der Voort needs to start in
goal, a back three just needs to go.
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fundamentals of the 4 2 2 2.
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:No fluff, no fuss.
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:Experience would be key, as well,
to get the team morale better.
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:So, going from left to right, in the back
four, it's going to be David Raum, Willy
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:Orban, Kseli Keber, and, although I don't
like him at right back, Lucas Klosterman.
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:Then in the central defensive
midfielder roles, Kevin
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:Campbell, and Arthur Vermeeren.
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:Arthur Vermeer has been doing quite well
for himself lately and deserves a start.
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:And the central attacking midfielder
rolls, on the left, Chavi Simmons.
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:If Christoph Baumgartner is up for it
and can play, I will put him in the
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:right central attacking midfielder roll.
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:Otherwise, this is also going to be a
bit of a questionable decision, but with
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:the squad that we have at our disposal,
and the players we have, and Marco Rosa
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:not playing Tidim Gomis, which is who
I would pick to put in the debut in
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:this position, would be Amadou Haidara.
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:He's good enough to play as a number
8 box to box midfielder, he can
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:shoot, he sometimes can't be clinical,
but he's definitely going to be
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:and be able to shoot and score,
most likely, if he's up for it.
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:And then the front two,
Benjamin Sesker, Lewis Appenda.
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:Like I said, no fluff, no fuss.
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:For predictions, I want to be an
optimist and say a two, two draw, but
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:I'm going for another loss this time.
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:Three, two, as Galachy will start and
we will concede too many with the back,
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:three with plays outta position, I can't
really predict anything else except any
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:result that a win probably isn't gonna be
on the cards as I, like I said in the last
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:Show and show us the debut of Gomes.
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:Get whatever fans travel.
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:Happy to see one of their new signings.
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:And now it's time for
the RBL talk segment.
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:Remember, you can be a part of the
show too with the RBL talk segment.
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:The way you do this is by interacting
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:show for free in the show notes.
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:We have some submissions today from
the RBFans discord community, some
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:from X and also some from Instagram.
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:first is from the RBFans
discord community.
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:Rob3r70 says it should
be Rose's last match.
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:Because it's a disaster, again.
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:I know how you think there, but
unfortunately, it's just not going to
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:happen, as the club has already said.
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:We're going to be sticking with
Marco Rosa to the end of the season.
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:We also have another submission from
NITROSO on the RBFans Discord community.
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:They said, Constantly, The S word.
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:For those that have kids or are listening
to kids in the room, you can educate your
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:young ones what that S word is if you so
choose, but it's not a very nice word.
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:How can a single player
not have a good game?
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:Can't even remember the last game
where the entire team showed up.
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:Yep, pretty much no player
on the pitch had a good game.
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:Like I said, Arthur Vermeeren and
Chavi Simmons were the best on
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:ground, but they were certainly
far from having great games.
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:There's really nothing else I could
say, and sometimes it's hard, with
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:the way our team is at the moment,
in, , being positive and also picking
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:good players on the pitch, especially in
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:And I honestly can't even remember
the last game where the entire team
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:showed up off the top of my head.
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:However, it would have been a Champions
League game, and as sad as it sounds,
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:probably one of the ones where we
lost, for instance, like the Juve.
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:We played so well, the whole entire
team played well, and it was just
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:experience that costed us in the end.
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:Next is from Gavin from X.
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:Says via a direct message.
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:Hi RBL Talk, Irish Leipzig fan here.
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:Love your work.
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:Keep it going.
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:I was thinking if Leipzig win
the DFB Cup, we should keep
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:Marco Rosa for one more season.
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:But if we get knocked out or lose the
final, he should leave in the summer.
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:And we bring in Eric Ten Hag as manager.
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:The lads are good enough
to win the Bundesliga.
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:Take care.
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:Couple of things to dissect there.
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:Thank you for listening over
there in Ireland, Gavin.
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:It's good to know that the
podcast is reaching more and
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:more countries every episode.
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:I will always keep doing
the work and keep it going.
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:I do this podcast for every single
listener, and that includes you.
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:, You were thinking, if Abelabsic
win the DFB Cup, we should keep
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:Marco Rosa for one more season.
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:Now, the only issue that I would
see with that is that, tactically,
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:you're still going to be the same.
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:And, unless there's a big, big change,
and that includes getting more squad
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:players as well, and that's not a
knock on Marco Rosa, that's a knock
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:on our upper management, above Marco
Rosa, who control the signings, then,
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:You know, we're just going to look to
the same football again next season.
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:Now, that being said, winning a DFB cup,
you should still be rewarded for that.
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:So as painful as it may be, as I want
what's best for the club and going
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:forward, it doesn't seem that Marco
Rosa is best going for the club.
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:As at the moment, it just seems
that , it's a PR stunt for owners Red
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:Bull, having a local man at the helm.
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:, I would still reward him, but only give
him a month or two and see how we go.
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:As soon as you do any little thing, you
already have another manager in waiting.
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:Now, if we were to replace him
with some of the rumours that are
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:saying Roger Schmidt, then it's
just going to be the same thing.
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:It doesn't matter if it's Marco Rosa,
Roger Schmidt, it's, I don't see
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:a big turnaround in the football.
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:We really need to get back to
our fundamentals and the basics
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:of what made this great team.
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:I said earlier episodes that I thought
Marco Rosa was quite possibly gifted a
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:couple of trophies, being the DFB Pokal
and the Super Cup, because after those
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:wins, we've started to see the Marco Rosa
football, which is completely different to
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:the normal Red Bull philosophy football.
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:So some of that's still there.
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:But it's almost non existent now.
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:Would be good to see
Eric Ten Hag as manager.
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:However, I do think RB Leipzig
are going to be pushing hard
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:for Sebastian Honnes first.
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:The lads are good enough
to win the Bundesliga.
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:I can agree with that.
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:However, it's the squad depth
and also the manager that are
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:stopping us from winning that.
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:I can't see us winning the Bundesliga
with Marco Rosa at the helm.
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:It doesn't matter what squad
that we have, even if we had
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:the best squad in the world.
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:World football.
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:I still can't that see
that being the case.
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:However, the lads we have are
good enough and have quality.
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:We just need to maximize the squad
depth so that if injuries happen
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:and rotating for players, something
that Marco Rosa doesn't do.
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:People say that it's
because of the squad depth.
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:Well, you can still rotate players.
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:And Ballum from X also from Direct Message
says don't worry about the recent no
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:live stream Stuttgart away tough on paper
Good test for team and a good practice
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:before his final you'll have one or two
contracts To preview this match in near
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:future Lucky buyer they have Armenia
away Yes Why Levi CuSum got the really
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:good draw against Armenia Biofield.
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:I personally said that I didn't
want to get Armenia biofield anyway.
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:I would rather have stood Gut or
Levi CuSum because I feel that
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:we're going to lose the next
game in the d FP podcast anyway.
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:Didn't matter who we played.
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:And , as critical as I have been on
manager Marco Rosa, I know what it's
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:like to , , be scrutinized all the
time with everything that you do.
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:Hey, as a content creator and a
podcaster, I'm also scrutinized all
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:the time with everything that I do.
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:So I understand how manager
Marco Rosso is feeling.
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:So I would rather have
there be excuses for him.
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:Against, , the likes of Leverkusen
or Stuttgart, which are currently
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:better squads and sides than us.
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:So if we did lose, it's not going to be,
oh, well, an embarrassment and we lost
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:against Armenia, you know, by a field.
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:So at least you have that, but
like, look, we were just beaten
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:by another competitive side in the
Bundesliga, which is a respectful
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:way to go out of the competition.
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:I will be, however, doing a live stream
in the next game against Freiburg.
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:So if you're available and not doing
anything, make sure to check that out.
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:, streaming on all platforms.
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:rl9louifan on Instagram
says, Not much to say.
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:We played a great first half, but
then everything ruined in the second.
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:Our best player tonight was Travis
Simmons, and our worst three were 1.
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:Lewis Appenda 2.
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:Rydell Baku 3.
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:Lutus Shirel Gertruder Rose out.
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:I understand what you mean
there by not much to say.
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:It is sometimes very difficult to
say certain things and, , some people
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:at times, we're lost for words.
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:I was originally lost for words
when I, , got the prediction right.
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:It was something that I knew
that was kind of becoming.
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:It was something that I fully expected.
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:I didn't just guess it, but I wanted
us to, I wanted myself to be wrong.
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:I wanted us to still be able to win.
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:That being said, Lewis Appenda
definitely played a terrible game.
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:Not so much Raito Baku and the
Distraught Gatruder, but they were
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:equally just as bad as each other.
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:I do think it is time for
Rose out, unfortunately.
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:PIA__HFFMR from Instagram says, I
don't think it's the coach, it's
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:the overall performance of the team.
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:I agree with that statement,
but only in part, as I don't
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:think it's just the coach.
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:So it's not just Marco Rose's fault.
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:That being said, how long can he
produce and be in the position that
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:he's in before, like I've always
said, how long does it start being
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:a public publicity stunt for owners
Red Bull to have a local at the helm?
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:, PR for public relations, so it's a good
look, it's good for business, it's good,
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:you know, good in that retro guard.
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:But it's not about the football.
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:And that's, at the moment, to me, from
an international supporter's perspective,
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:it's not about the football at the moment.
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:It doesn't matter where we end up.
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:Like, who cares at this point?
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:, it's all about manager Marco Rosso,
we've got the local at the helm,
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:we've got a local fan base, , yes,
the local fans, they are key.
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:They are the ones that
put the bum in the seats.
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:They're the ones that pay for the tickets.
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:They're the ones that are
the voices in the stadium.
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:My part as an international fan is
giving a voice to every single person.
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:Doesn't just mean local fans, but every
single person around in the world.
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:And I want them to have that voice.
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:And they are Most of them,
with me, a general consensus of
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:we're fed up with this football.
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:Yes, it's not just Marco Rosa's fault.
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:I know that.
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:Most fans know that.
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:Most fans, they don't like Marco
Rosa for one way or another.
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:For me, it's just his tactics.
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:If he can turn his tactics around and
make us play better football, I would
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:love him to be at the helm for the next
ten, Or whatever years it may be, and
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:have a long, successful relationship.
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:We've already won
trophies with Marco Rosa.
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:He's shown that he can
win things at RB Leipzig.
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:But at the end of the day, when are we
going to be going down to this spiral
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:of, we're going to be a mid table club.
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:Is this going to be something that
is expected of us going forward?
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:Yes, it's not.
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:Always the greatest, especially
with how the Red Bull model is.
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:We get these good young players, we build
them up, we get them better at their
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:trade, and as they're starting to reach
their prime, we sell them off for profit.
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:Look, it does work.
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:We've shown that.
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:But you also need to have a good
Manager, fundamentally able to
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:teach the players all the Red Bull
philosophy and work on the players
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:strengths and also work on the players
negatives coming through the ranks.
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:That's what makes us such a
good side getting in there.
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:I hope, I really do hope if Marco Rosa
does go, that all the management at
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:Red Bull, they really think about this.
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:Because the next manager is key and
it can't be someone just in the same
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:mold as Marco Rosa and anyone else
in the Red Bull system as before.
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:It simply won't work.
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:We need someone fresh.
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:We need someone with new ideas.
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:They need to be brought to the
table and then injected the Red
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:Bull philosophy in how we play.
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:That there.
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:will make the club more dynamic
and better going forward.
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:As always, I'd like to thank the
contributors for their contributions
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:in this episode in RBL Talk.
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:All RBL Talk members, and thank
you for listening to this podcast.
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:It really helps us find new
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:So until next time,
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