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238. Hosting Hotline: When To Hire vs. When To Self-Manage Your Airbnb
Episode 23821st March 2023 • Thanks For Visiting • Airbnb Superhosts Annette Grant & Sarah Karakaian
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Welcome to another Ask Me Anything (Ask Us Anything?) episode! Each week we’ll answer your questions on STR, real estate, OTAs, and everything in between.

Carrie asks:

We have 14 properties that we own, but a friend is managing. We’re trying to decide if we should take over management for them. What should we consider?

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Sarah:

Hello.

Sarah:

Hello.

Sarah:

Welcome back for the great episode.

Sarah:

My name is Sarah Karakaian.

Annette:

I am Annette Grant, and together we are--

Both Sarah and Annette:

Thanks Visiting.

Sarah:

And this is the--

Both Sarah and Annette:

Hosting Hotline.

Sarah:

We've got a really, really fun one for you, listeners, today.

Sarah:

And we promised there is a purpose behind playing this for you right now.

Questions:

How do you manage to be so funny, beautiful,

Questions:

interesting, intelligent, successful, all at the same time?

Annette:

We have to admit we might have listened to this a couple of times.

Annette:

And yes, it was a nice for the old ego, but here's what we're going to do.

Annette:

We're going to parlay this into, first of all, this person that

Annette:

called in did not leave their name.

Annette:

So it's one of those things, are they being genuine?

Annette:

Are they being sarcastic?

Annette:

This probably has happened to you in some of your reviews

Annette:

that you've gotten from guests.

Annette:

There's some of those digs in there and you're like, hmm.

Annette:

We want to talk about reviews today.

Annette:

But this person, their name was Dove.

Annette:

So let me know what you think about that, but thank you, Dove.

Annette:

I took it as super positive and then Sarah was like, oh, maybe he's--

Sarah:

No.

Sarah:

I took it as like he was being sarcastic.

Sarah:

I was like, Annette, this is a really good opportunity for-- but then

Sarah:

when we played it, we were like, we felt really good about that.

Sarah:

He was stroking our ego.

Sarah:

And so the first thing we want to offer up to you is hosting is hard, right?

Sarah:

You pour your heart and soul into not only the design and the decor

Sarah:

and the location and how you speak to your guests, and they're checking.

Sarah:

And--

Sarah:

Things are bound to go either wrong or expectations are different

Sarah:

on both sides of the table there.

Sarah:

And so you are going to get constructive criticism.

Sarah:

You're going to get flat out rude, reviews.

Sarah:

So when you get those awesome ones, because they are the majority and we know

Sarah:

all of our Thanks for Visiting audience.

Sarah:

You guys have the majority are glowing reviews.

Sarah:

Do yourself a favor and print a few out and put them on your bathroom mirror

Sarah:

or on your bedroom vanity mirror in your office because you're going to

Sarah:

need those reminders when things get tough that you are a rockstar host.

Annette:

Yeah, like we're going to keep this recording and we're going to play it.

Annette:

We might make it into a mix if we need to, but I actually at

Annette:

VRMA or Varma, Vacation Rental Management Association.

Annette:

I attended one of the seminars and it was about reviews and

Annette:

how to deal with bad reviews.

Annette:

And this was something that the woman that was leading it said like she has a file

Annette:

in her office of all positive reviews.

Annette:

So when she's having that day where she's just getting beat up by a

Annette:

negative review, she can go into that brag bank and look at those.

Annette:

And the other thing that she offered, which I thought was really good, is

Annette:

to-- those negative ones, because people in this section, it was awesome.

Annette:

They were standing up and they were giving names and almost

Annette:

verbatim, the negative reviews.

Annette:

They were seating and it might have been a year later, and she was like, I give you

Annette:

permission to let that negative review go.

Annette:

So we also want to give you permission to let those go.

Annette:

They sting, they hurt, but you have to let them go in order to move on.

Annette:

I was telling, we get bad reviews on our podcast.

Annette:

So if you haven't left us a positive one, feel free.

Annette:

That's my plug today, to leave us a positive one.

Annette:

But definitely let those negative reviews go.

Annette:

But Sarah, what should you do with every single review, positive or negative?

Sarah:

Always respond to every review.

Sarah:

It is not for the person who left the review.

Sarah:

It is for the person considering staying with you.

Sarah:

How you respond to both positive and negative reviews tells so much about

Sarah:

the business owner and operator.

Sarah:

And I promise you, you are going to be doing yourself a favor with

Sarah:

your occupancy if you do that.

Sarah:

And we do it for every single review that we receive.

Sarah:

And here's what the team does as well, is every week they will share a positive

Sarah:

review with the team, with the cleaner.

Sarah:

And when we do have constructive criticism, because if we get something

Sarah:

that is just blatantly inappropriate or rude or what have you, we

Sarah:

honestly just discard those outliers.

Sarah:

But when you have constructive criticism, take it inhouse with yourself if you are

Sarah:

running the business, and see how you can spin that to be positive, just like

Sarah:

we did with Dove's message for us here.

Annette:

I love Dove's review.

Sarah:

No, I do.

Sarah:

Thank you.

Sarah:

No, we needed to hear that.

Sarah:

But also if he came at it from a sarcastic way, it's okay because

Sarah:

we're choosing to take it and spin it into something positive.

Sarah:

So when someone leaves you at two stars, because this happened to me,

Sarah:

I didn't have Kleenex in my rental.

Sarah:

This is back of the day.

Annette:

Is it Kleenex or tissue?

Sarah:

Tissue paper, but Kleenex.

Sarah:

When I grew up, my mother was just like, you can use a toilet paper.

Sarah:

So when I started hosting, I didn't think about it.

Sarah:

And you better believe we have multiple boxes of tissue throughout our properties.

Sarah:

You know what I mean?

Annette:

But that was a great constructive, like, you know what?

Annette:

One, that was something that a guest wanted.

Annette:

ADBREAK

Annette:

I got a very negative review meds.

Annette:

I'll be honest, I didn't have table lamps on all of my nightstands.

Annette:

And this couple, they were vacation rental owners.

Annette:

They were big readers.

Annette:

They did not want the overhead lights on at night.

Annette:

And there are now lamps at every single bedside.

Sarah:

Annette now loves secondary lighting.

Annette:

Yes, I do.

Annette:

I actually have two extras.

Annette:

I haven't even showed you.

Annette:

I just bought two last week at Target because they were so cute.

Annette:

I was like, I don't even need these, but I'll buy them for future.

Annette:

I need to show them to you.

Annette:

They're really cute.

Annette:

But copy this stuff out, have the positives there.

Annette:

But I love, if you do not leave those reviews, that was something again,

Annette:

like, that was an eye-opening moment.

Annette:

That was actually inside of our membership.

Annette:

We had a huge discussion about that, about leaving all-- reviewing

Annette:

every review that is given to you.

Annette:

And let's give you a specific, for instance, let's say a pipe froze in

Annette:

your house and this guest is leaving a skating review about this one-off

Annette:

issue because of Mother Nature.

Annette:

You could reply and say, explain what the weather was.

Annette:

It's remedied.

Annette:

It will not happen again.

Annette:

You want to give them the steps out of it.

Annette:

Let that future guests know.

Annette:

We were there within three hours.

Annette:

We did this, we called.

Annette:

That's where you would want to give a description to the

Annette:

potential guest of what happened.

Annette:

They can obviously read that review, but what your rebuttal was, how you

Annette:

remedied it, that's exactly what Sarah's talking about, is giving that future

Annette:

guest-- you are doing marketing for the future guest that's going to book your

Sarah:

You brought up a good point.

Sarah:

Now we could have a whole episode on just reviews, but I guess we are--

Annette:

Aren't we?

Sarah:

We are.

Sarah:

Do not use the opportunity to respond, to review, to vent.

Annette:

No.

Sarah:

Okay.

Annette:

Write it all out.

Sarah:

Yes.

Sarah:

Call your bestie, vent and then you get on there and you are positive and

Sarah:

you are constructive and you own up too whether it is mother nature or your fault.

Annette:

And give it some time.

Annette:

You always want to give yourself a little buffer time.

Annette:

We were actually with host last week and one of the hosts was talking about

Annette:

how they go back and forth and they text what their reviews would be and then

Annette:

they're like, okay, you need to tone it down, but they just need to get it out.

Annette:

So I know people that have a fake email and they send all their feelings to that

Annette:

email address so they can press send.

Annette:

They want to rage, click send.

Annette:

So if you are like that, maybe you have your own Gmail where you send all

Annette:

those, just make sure you don't mess up.

Sarah:

But you don't want to let your future hosts know that you are just--

Annette:

Yes.

Annette:

Yes.

Annette:

Seating.

Sarah:

Yeah.

Sarah:

So with that, we hope that we've given you permission to let go that

Sarah:

negative review, celebrate the positive ones, and use every piece of feedback

Sarah:

as a way to improve your business.

Sarah:

With that, I am Sarah Karakaian.

Annette:

I'm Annette Grant, and together we--

Both Sarah and Annette:

:

Thanks for Visiting.

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