Nephilim, Genesis 6, and biblical giants are at the center of one of the most debated topics in ancient history. This episode explores what the Bible actually says about the Nephilim and how those accounts connect to historical discoveries and global legends.

In this episode of At The Mic: Thursday Deep Dive, Keith Malinak sits down with Derek Olson to examine the origins of the Nephilim, including the “sons of God,” the Book of Enoch, and the role of the Watchers. The conversation expands into reported discoveries of giant skeletons, megalithic structures, and ancient technologies that challenge conventional timelines.

Why this matters goes beyond ancient history. From Lovelock Cave to global accounts of giants and modern questions surrounding hidden records and FOIA inquiries, this discussion explores whether these stories are isolated myths or part of a larger narrative that continues to surface in different forms.

Derek Olson is the creator of Megalithic Marvels and has conducted on-site research at ancient locations around the world, bringing firsthand perspective to one of the most controversial and widely debated subjects in biblical and historical study.

Welcome to this edition of At the Mic. I am your host, Keith Malinak, and I'm so grateful you joined us here for the Thursday deep dive. I have so been looking forward to this topic, the Nephilim, and judging by the response you have too. So thank you so much. Buckle up. We've got a lot to talk about with my guest, Derek Olson, coming up here in just a moment.

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She's staying very busy over at the Instagram page at the Mike show, if you want to go and check that out. I got a great team over here with Wes and Gabby, and I'm grateful for both of them. If you missed yesterday's Wednesday wild card show, we hung out with Brad for an hour, and then halfway through, had nurse Kimberly Overton join us from the remnanthealthcare.org.

just going through her experiences during the COVID era, six years ago it's been, my goodness. And I really would encourage you to go and listen to that conversation if you haven't yet. She had a lot to say. And as you know, if you've been tuning in to At the Mic for any length of time here, this topic, this show today on the Nephilim.

This has been delayed multiple times and every one of those delays is the fault of yours truly. was Murphy's law, one thing after another. And I'm so grateful for my guest, Derek Olson, for understanding and rolling with it. And finally, finally we made it happen. So he hosts the YouTube channel that you need to subscribe to. It's youtube.com and it's a megalithic marvels, megalithic marvels. Derek does an

awesome job over there. So informative with the shows that he especially for this one that really piqued my curiosity. And I just want to commend you, Derek, for an awesome YouTube channel and for covering some cool stuff, especially about the Nephilim. Thanks for making time, man. I appreciate it.

Hey Keith, thank you so much for the invite. Honored to be here at the mic and really excited about what we're going to dive into in this show.

I'm telling you, this topic is so fascinated. And before we get started though, let me do this. I mentioned your YouTube channel, Megalithic Marvels, but one of the things that you do is you take these international field trips, man. Like you go to a lot of these places that you talk about. That's what makes your show stand out, I think above others is that you go to these places.

and you take us with you. When's your next international getaway to one of these sites, man? What's up next for you?

Yeah, I appreciate that. You know, my next tour is actually coming up here in May. I'm going to Peru and Easter Island. One of my favorite places on the planet is Peru. And then I'm doing another trip back to Peru in September because this tour sold out. We got one coming in September. We're also going to do Bolivia. And then I'm going to ancient Turkey, October, and then we're going to end the year.

at the Great Pyramids in Egypt, the first of December. So people can go to megalithicmarvels.com slash tours to check out the options. Man, we have so much fun on these tours. We have the best guides. You're going to learn on my tours, the real forbidden history of these areas, these regions, the history. You know, it's one thing to talk about this stuff, but for me, it's just so exciting to go and not just see, but touch and go inside.

these superstructures that I believe were built by ancient lost civilizations who had ancient lost technology.

is I don't know how deep we're going to get today, Derek, because this topic of the Nephilim is so deep. And you get into it on your channel with some of the conversations that you have had with Gary Wayne recently have been just jaw dropping. And you mentioned the loss technology, you mentioned the pyramids.

all this stuff is connected to the Nephilim story. And I don't know that people realize that. I know this audience is very interested in this topic. I've gotten so many people have told me, hey, when's that show that you keep teasing? And again, that was my apologies for being delayed for a couple of months there. I would think that those that read the Bible, there's probably three camps when it comes to Genesis 6.

versus one through four. There's probably the one camp that I was in for probably, I don't know, 35, 40 years of my life that was like, saw it, you didn't really think much about it. You were just like, huh, okay, and moved on with your life. And then there's the camp that I spent, I don't know, five or 10 years in where I was like, okay, that's weird, this giant thing. I'm gonna read these verses in case people aren't familiar. And now I'm in the third camp where I am...

actively seeking more information about this topic because It's really mind-blowing when you not only look at those verses in Genesis But then other texts that you do such a great job of bringing to light. I want to read I'm gonna I'm gonna read verses one through four from Genesis 6 if I made it and then I'm just gonna turn you loose Derek and you take it from there, but Here's what it says here now it came to pass When men began to multiply on the face of the earth

And daughters were born to them, that the sons of God saw that the daughters of men, that they were beautiful and they took wives for themselves of all whom they chose. And the Lord said, my spirit shall not strive with man forever for he is indeed flesh. Yet his days shall be 120 years. And then here's the kicker. love this one here. There were giants on the earth in those days. And also afterward, when the sons of God,

came into the daughters of men and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown." Renown there. So, okay, I want you to take it from there, Derek, because what did I just read?

Yeah, you just read probably the most famous Bible scripture that talks about an ancient hybrid race. I say hybrid because, you know, they could be giants, but they were also other things as we might get into. But they weren't fully human. They were the Nephilim. Now, mainstream, know, unfortunately, sadly, most pastors, Bible scholars would just chalk that verse up to

these this kind of weird race it talks about that was just the evil lineage of of Kane that was started to breed with, you know, the daughters of of Seth or whatever. But when you go down that rabbit hole, that presents a whole other sets of problems. So, yeah, we got Genesis six for right there talking about.

there were giants, that's the Hebrew word, Nephilim, on the earth in those days and also afterward. So it's talking about before the flood, but then it's also talking about somehow they came back after the flood, which we'll get into. And it says clearly that these sons of God came into the daughters of men, they bred with women and they bore children, these were the mighty men who are of old. Now, when we add that scripture in context,

If you grew up in church, like I did, you always heard a million times about the story of the spies, the Hebrew spies, you know, scooping out the land and, they sent out 10 and a couple came back with a bad report. And well, the context they're not giving is that these Hebrew spies went into Canaan and saw the giant tribes of Anak. this is, this was a specific tribe.

descended from the Nephilim post-flood. Okay, there's a reason the spies were freaked out. They were seeing nine, 10, 11 plus foot tall hybrids, not just big, slow guys. We're talking about think orcs from Lord of the Rings or the Uruk-kai, right? Super strength, super speed, and all kinds of crazy anatomical genetic.

Here's another Bible verse, one of my favorites, 1 Chronicles 20 verse 6. says, Yet again there was war at Gath, where there was a man of great stature, with twenty-four fingers and toes, six on each hand and six on each foot, and he also was born to the giant. I could go on and on, but there's three scriptures, right?

Yeah, and you haven't even mentioned David and Goliath.

Yeah, Goliath being the most infamous of all the Nephilim.

tall was Goliath, do we know?

If you use the, I think it's the Royal Cubit, he was about 11 feet.

Right. is, I mean, that's a giant that qualifies.

Great. And there's a reason David took five smooth stones from the stream. And it's because there were five famous giants in this region. David figured that if he took down Goliath, the most famous, that his brother Lamy and the other three would come to fight him. And so again, that's right where that last scripture I read talks about, there was this

giant that had 24 fingers and toes. And there's a reason David cuts off Goliath's head.

I'm so glad you brought that up. is one of the fascinating things that you and Gary Wayne discussed recently. Tell us why sever the head of Goliath.

Yeah, when you get into the other ancient texts and legends surrounding the Nephilim or these men of renown, again, if you believe what the Bible, I believe, says and what the Book of Enoch expounds on, which we can get into that these giants called the Nephilim, they were the progeny of human women, right? And fallen angel fathers, the Watchers.

Okay, so they have human abilities and traits and they also have superhuman abilities and traits. And this is why they again had at least the original generations, the first generations had the super size, but they also had super speed and they had I believe elongated skulls for the most part.

And I believe the elongated skulls we see in Parakas, Peru and elsewhere, these were descendants of the Nephilim, which I can get into as well.

Yeah, that's something that you mentioned. The the the I guess the carvings, right? Like the daughters of was it the Pharaoh at the time? Yeah. And you see that and you just think, well, that's weird. But again, when you when you couple it with this knowledge, it is this stuff's connected, man.

I did not, yeah.

Yeah, so all over the world, the ancients were cradle headboarding their skulls, right? They were trying to make the infant skull elongated. Well, the cradle headboarded ones, that was just the general population trying to emulate the ruling elite hybrid masters who had natural elongated skulls, like we see in Peru, which we'll get into. But again, I believe they descended from

the ancient giant hybrid races who most likely had elongated skulls because they were communicating at strange resonances. And there's ancient Ugaritic texts that basically describe how these Nephilim giants, they were called quote kings and healers and they could basically heal themselves, right? So this is why they were so hard to kill as Gary Wayne points out.

In a battle with a Nephilim, imagine if he cuts off his hand, he can grow it back rather quickly, right? They can regrow limbs. They can regenerate their body, likely through frequencies. And that's why David cuts off Goliath's head, because you had to sever that before it could heal itself. because David, you know, the Bible says he takes it out with a stone, right? The giant falls.

as the new Amazon series House of David. They've done the best job of kind of visualizing this because it's, you know, it's crazy. We're now living in a day where the Nephilim have gone mainstream, right? We've got this House of David series. We've got guys like Tucker Carlson talking about the Nephilim and giants. And so like, this is wild. 10 years ago, I was considered a nut. And now it's like, this is

This is okay to talk about,

Now you've got permission right from the mainstream.

Yeah.

Yeah, go ahead, man. I'm sorry.

I was gonna say, now I'm okay, but that's why David cuts off the head because he knows he has to sever these resonance properties. And then the Bible says that David, he actually takes that gigantic sword, I believe, and his head where this battlefield was. It's a long way if you do the map to Israel, to Jerusalem. David carries the skull all the way to Jerusalem and guess where?

Legends say he buried Goliath's skull. Do you know, Keith?

do tell.

Golgotha, the place of the skull. Now Golgotha, also known as Calvary, where Christ was crucified. I've been to Jerusalem. It's crazy approaching Golgotha or Calvary. It's a natural rock outcropping just outside the city, this hill. And guess what? It's been carved into the face of a skull.

Meaning the rock has been artificially shaped to look like a skull face like Skeletor out of He-Man.

Now you're singing. Now you're speaking my language.

So it's 3D imagery. You've got Golgotha, the place of the skull, but legend says it's also where David buried the skull of Goliath. Now do the play on words. Golgotha, Goliath of Gath, Golgotha, Goliath of Gath, Golgotha. It's very eerily similar, right? And so.

Yeah.

The deeper imagery here is of the crucifixion, where you've got Christ crucified, the blood dripping down, going back to the prophecy in Genesis that says, you know, I will cause hostility between you and the woman, between your offspring and hers. He will strike your head and you will strike his heel. It's like, that's the fulfillment.

Christ is crushing the head of the seed of the serpent, which goes back to this illegal race. Here's the cosmic chess match imagery. According to the Bible, you've got God creating humans in his own image, right? But then you've got these watchers descending into our atmosphere on Mount Hermon.

The Bible says, or the book of Enoch 1 says, there are 200 watchers descended on Mount Hermon. And this is where they chose to marry women. They didn't just want to breed with women. They wanted to marry and have lineage. They wanted to set up kingdoms and they wanted to be kings and rulers. And so the point was they were creating this hybrid race, which God considered an illegal creation, right?

And so all of this suddenly, funnily, funny, takes place right before what? The flood narrative. And so that's when you look at the flood narrative, it's God taking the last purebloods, Noah and his family, putting them on a boat, wiping out this illegal creation. And as we'll get into, it wasn't just hybrid humans, but it was likely hybrid chimeric creatures.

according to the book of Enoch and the book of Giants. And so God is resetting the earth and starting over.

Mm-hmm.

And that is, I'm so glad you brought up Enoch there because there are books that for one reason or another didn't make it into the final draft of the Bible. And Enoch is one of those. And the stuff that is in there, it's mind blowing stuff. And I want you to get into that because

And I want you to also tell us, you mentioned the Watchers. Who were the Watchers and why are they so critical to this story?

Great question. Yeah, when you really get into studying angels and what the Bible says about angels, it really lists all kinds of hierarchy, cherubim, seraphim. You know, in Revelation it's shown us these crazy four living creatures and wheels within wheels. there is insane stuff going on in the heavenly realms, right?

And so it's so much more than we can, I believe, comprehend. But the Watchers were kind of like, from what I understand, a sect of the Seraphim angels. And when we hear the word cherubim, we think of a little angel with wings. It's not at all what the Bible is talking about. These are warrior class angels.

It's a kingdom of angels really with different sects, different commanders. And so the Watchers were essentially Seraphim-like angels who again, we know that Lucifer falls from glory. what do we see in Genesis in Eden? We see the serpent, right? And he's taken on some kind of form.

We know he's a supernatural being, but he took on a form of a serpent, right? So we see the same thing a couple chapters later in Genesis when it says...

Abraham is out there sitting under the tree and here he comes and he sees these men approaching him, right? It was really the angels on their way to wipe out Sodom and Gomorrah. But my point is they took on flesh because Abraham offers them lunch, wants to wash their feet, right? And I'm saying this because the naysayers will say, well, angels couldn't breed. That's why this is so foolish. Well, I think they could.

Because these angels in what is it, Genesis 20 I think it is, who meet Abraham, he offers to wash their feet, feed them a meal, long story short, they go on to Sodom and Gomorrah, right? And what do the evil inhabitants of Sodom and Gomorrah wanna do to these angels?

They want to sexually abuse them, right? Yeah. And so again, there's proof right there that these angels could take on form to the point where even the perversion that had debased this region, these inhabitants wanted to abuse them to the point where they're giving up their own daughters, which is really crazy when you think about it. So that's kind of who the Watchers were. And let me read Enoch.

Yes.

Again, the book of Enoch, it was super popular even during the time of Christ. And in fact, a short section of Enoch 1.9 is basically referenced in the book of Jude, chapters 1, verse 14 and 15. So the book of Jude is quoting from the book of Enoch. So even though the book of Enoch is not part of the canon of scripture, it was highly revered. It's a very ancient book and it...

It's basically expounding upon what Genesis is saying in a quick general statement on the Nephilim. The book of Enoch is taking you depths deeper. And here's what it says. Enoch one, one Enoch chapter six, verses one through three, it says this. And it came to pass when the children of men had multiplied that in those days were born unto them beautiful and comely daughters and the angels.

The children of the heaven. So here it's telling us clearly this was the angels saw and lusted after them, these women, and said to one another, come, let us choose us wives from among the children of men and beget his children. And they were in all 200 who descended in the days of Jared on the summit of Mount Hermon, which is there in Israel. So Enoch here is expounding on what Genesis

6 4 said in more detail saying it was angels. There was 200 of them. They descended on Mount Hermon and check out what Enoch 7 says next quote and all the others together with them. It's talking about these fallen angels took unto themselves wives and each chose for himself one and they began to go in unto them and to defile themselves with them and they became pregnant.

and they bear great giants who consumed all the acquisitions of men. And when men could no longer sustain them, the giants turned against them and devoured mankind. And they began to sin against birds and the beasts and the reptiles and the fish, and to devour one another's flesh and drink the blood. Then the earth laid acquisition against the lawless ones.

I'm so glad you got into that because this is the setting on the eve of the flood. if I've got my timeline correct, this is what really, it's not me if I'm wrong, this is where God's like, all right, this is out of hand. We got to stop this. And that's when the flood happens, yeah?

Yeah, what Enoch here seems to be describing in chapters six and seven is definitely pre-flood. And it's talking about, again, kind of the origins of the Watchers coming into Earth, breeding. Their offspring were the Nephilim. So the Nephilim are separate from the Watchers, if that makes sense. And this is why the Earth became so corrupt and so wicked. And...

Again, Enoch here is hinting that they weren't just sinning against humans, but animals. And so I've talked about, I did an episode on the book of giants. This is an ancient text that was found in amongst the Dead Sea Scrolls. And in the Dead Sea Scrolls, this is where the oldest copies of the Bible were ever discovered, were in these Dead Sea Scrolls, found in the 60s, I believe.

Well, also found amongst these, the most ancient biblical texts of the Dead Sea Scrolls was fragments of the Book of Enoch and fragments of another book called the Book of Giants. And so the Book of Giants now is expanding upon what Genesis and the Book of Enoch had to say about all this anarchy in the old world. And so the Book of Giants is like an attempt where they're trying to explain the wickedness, how it became so widespread.

that God had to send a flood. And check out what the book of Giants says here. Again, it's very fragmented, meaning most of it was damaged. But again, it's one of these apocryphal books that you were referencing that didn't make it into the Bible. Meaning they're not considered inspired, but they're very ancient and the...

the ancients of the day highly revered these books. So look at what the book of giants says here. Let me find it.

Yeah, and when you're done looking that up and quoting that, I want you to address the post-flood because it's not like it wasn't just six people left standing, right?

Right, so here we go with what the book of giants says. It says.

Wow, I just lost it again. I'll paraphrase, but it basically says how.

I've been there. Trust me. I I lost internet two minutes before we connected today. I get it. I was terrified because I was like, he's going to connect while I'm disconnected. no.

Well that must have been scary.

here it is. Here's what the book of giant says. And it's fragmented. says 200 donkeys, 200 rams, 200 goats, 200 beasts of the field were selected for miscegenation. They defiled, they begot giants and monsters and behold, all the earth was corrupt. So if you believe what the book of giants is saying, the old world looked more like Narnia than it does today.

And what was, what were you wanting me to address next?

Yeah, just talk about like, it's not like there was the Nephilim. We had the big giants and we had the flood and then everything's cool. Now we're good, right? I mean, no, we still had, we should have. In fact, one of the fascinating things that you mentioned that just came to mind is you got Josephus story and Josephus talking about the giants. So there's, there's post flood references to these giants.

Yeah.

I'm really glad you brought that up because yeah, not only do we have the Bible talking about giants, not only do we have these apocryphal books like the book of Enoch, the book of giants talking about giants, but we have all kinds of non-biblical sources for ancient hybrids. mean, the reality is whether you're looking at ancient Sumerian texts and depictions, or you're looking at the ancient Andean legends of Peru,

they're all talking about giants. mean, even the Inca legends, when you dive into their beliefs and their worship of Viracocha, guess who Viracocha destroys in the flood? He destroys the evil giants. And so this is all throughout almost every ancient civilization. And then yes, we have historians like Josephus.

who was a first century Roman Jewish historian. And he's written several books that were famous in his day, kind of recounting the Roman and the Jewish wars and Masada. And he's got a book called The Antiquities of the Jews. He wrote 94 AD. In this book and in his other books, again, this is a historian.

He wasn't even necessarily, from what I understand, a follower of God. He was a secular historian whose, we still have his writings, thank God. And he's, guess what? He's talking about an ancient race of hybrids. Here's one of his quotes from 94 AD.

and countenance is so entirely different from other men that they were surprising to the sight and terrible to the hearing. The bones of these men are still shown to this very day, unlike to any credible relations of other men." Fascinating quote here from Josephus. And there's so much we can pull from it again, especially in context of who he was and when he lived.

He is saying that there were giants, a race of giants. So he's distinguishing them from the race of humans. He says their bodies were so large and their countenances were so entirely different from other men that they were surprising to look at and terrible to the hearing, which is, I think, a hint taking us back to why David cut off the head, the resonance, elongated skulls.

And the craziest part is he says the bones of these men are still shown to this day. So he's basically saying in whatever they called the museums, they were probably featured like, wow, look at these are the ancient race we wiped out.

Yeah, yeah. I 100 years after Christ, he's referencing these giants. There's so many things that you said there that I want to expound on. Let me do this, since you just mentioned museums of the day. Let's talk about our own Smithsonian. And our government, if this audience can agree on one thing.

It's that our government is in the habit of lying to us and hiding things from us. And that applies right to this whole thing about giants, right? Like what is happening over at the Smithsonian that's being kept from us?

Great question. Well, when you look at it, sadly up to this point, Darwinism has been the prevailing paradigm that's become the status quo in mainstream kind of history and archeology, right? So therefore any evidence that seems to conflict with the paradigm is kind of hidden away, tucked away.

That's a great point. Right at the same time the Smithsonian is taking off, that's when Darwinism is taking off. That's a great point.

Right. Because when you even look at, as I'll get into in a minute, the Smithsonian's own publications from the late 1800s and early 1900s, they're admitting all over the discoveries of a eight foot skeleton here, a nine foot skeleton there, right? Today they would say that was that never happened. So there seems to be this plan to hide anything that doesn't go with this Darwinism paradigm. Wow. And I say that because

this? No, not at all.

NAGPRA, it stands for Native American Graves Protection and Repatriation Act. It was passed in 1990. So in a nutshell, the law basically states that anything ancient that's found like a skull, anything that's found, it belongs to the Native Americans and it needs to be removed from public display and buried according to the traditions of the Native Americans.

convenient.

Right? so now the Native Americans are an amazing culture and anything that is theirs should be given to them. I agree with that. Yet there's so many things that have been discovered that even the archaeologists who found them said this is not Native American and therefore it should not be hidden. should not be buried. And I could give you countless examples, whether it's Kennewick man.

Yeah, that's that's another one where we've got these legends of the Lovelock cave giants, which I can get into. But yeah, there's people that have claimed to have seen the skulls and even photograph them in a back room of the Humboldt Museum. And the director of that museum was on record. I have a quote is saying that we can't display these publicly because the state doesn't recognize their legitimacy. So again, the big.

Takeaway here is that we actually have laws on the books Where unlike in Peru if they find this incredibly elongated skull they can put it on public display for us to go photograph, right? If we find something like that here it disappears never to be seen again Even though elongated skulls have been discovered right here in America LA Marzulli in fact

found photographs of elongated skulls discovered on Catalina Island in California. And they tried to hide those. So yeah, that's kind of what's going on with the Smithsonian. But let me back up a second and say this. We've talked about what the Bible says about giants, right? And what the Book of Enoch, the Book of Giants, what Josephus says. A lot of people don't realize that again,

up into the late 1800s, early 1900s, newspaper publications all over America, including reputable places like the New York Times and the Scientific American. Guess what they were reporting on on a weekly basis? Giant skeletons that were unearthed in mounds, in caves, in riverbeds. And so the European colonists who arrived here in the New World

You know, they find this thriving culture settled by the Native Americans, but it's basically as the gold rush is happening, as wagon trains are pushing westward, they begin to discover the remains of this other culture that predated the Native Americans, where they found these giant earthen mounds, constructed with ancient knowledge, mathematics that had withstood the ages. And guess what they found when they would dig in these mounds, these

seven, eight and nine foot usually long skeletons. How crazy is that?

I'm seriously, is so much, are so many, every time you say something here, Derek, I've got six or seven questions that are kind of spokes off of this stuff. Let me think here. Let's go back to the Lovelock cage for a second here. Explain what that was and what was discovered there. that's a whole, that could be a Thursday deep dive in of itself, yeah?

man. Yeah, it's incredible. In fact, this is one of the stories that took me down the rabbit trail of doing this full time.

ask you, what really got you going in this realm with your awesome channel? Something like this.

Yeah, well, I'll say two things. One is, you know, I grew up always enamored by history and the pyramids and Easter Island. I would read, you know, Genesis 6-4 and I was always fascinated by that. As a kid, I knew there was something more to the Nephilim, but nobody could explain it to me.

asked countless pastors and I've ignored. I've essentially been ignored, almost just either dismissed or not even a reply to the email.

Right, so I was always curious about these things. And then in 2012, I was living in California at the time. One day I remember I was Googling images of ancient ruins, you know, and up pops a photo of these polygonal, colossal, megalithic, mortarless walls in Cusco, Peru. And I just froze in my seat. And I'm...

my first thought is how have I never seen these ruins before? I was pretty well versed in some history in ancient ruins and how had I never, I knew immediately this was special. This was superior to most of the ancient ruins I'd seen of temples and Mayan pyramids. And so if you

read the mainstream Wikipedia, it's going to say, the Inca built the Megalith of Cusco, right? Well, somehow that somehow that connected me to a guy. think it was Brian Forster who lives in Peru and had a channel, has a channel dedicated to the Megalith of Peru. And I stumbled upon one of his videos and he was breaking down how and just real common sense language. How could the Inca have made this superstructure?

That's a cute story.

when they had copper chisels and hammers, which rank a three on the Mohs scale of hardness with diamond being a 10, when this stone is andesite, which is a seven on the Mohs scale of hardness. They couldn't do it. That's like taking a butter knife and trying to cut through a wooden tree. It's not going to happen. Or I should say a plastic butter knife. And so that got me thinking what?

Yeah.

And so long story short, ended up going to Peru a few years later. I saw the megaliths up close. I saw the elongated skulls up close, which we got to talk about as well. I was hooked. I came back with all this footage and I had just like this passion that there's a hidden history that no one's talking about. And so I launched the megalithic marvels in here where today, but during that time, well, during that time I was Googling ancient ruin images is when I

I stumbled upon this Lovelock cave story and I'm thinking, what? And then I mapped Lovelock cave. And I realized, you know what, this is in driving distance from where I am in Sacramento. And so I convinced my, my friend to go on a road trip with me. He thought I was absolutely nuts until we got to the cave. let me tell the Lovelock story cave. So

You know, the Paiutes of Nevada have this legend that in the ancient, ancient past, they went to war against a ferocious tribe known as the Sitika, which they were said were red-haired cannibalistic giants. It was a giant tribe. And that their legend stated that this giant tribe of red-haired giants was wiping them out. And so they...

consolidated a federation of other tribes to join them to exterminate this giant tribe. And according to the legend, they somehow backed these giants into a large cave. And then they set it ablaze with fire piercing arrows and basically snuffed them out, suffocated them. And this is how they defeated the giants, somehow tricking them into this cave.

And she talks about how her people did really go to war against a ferocious red-haired enemy tribe. And she states in the book that in fact, my most prized possession is this dress that's trimmed with the red hair of the dead giants.

When do we think this battle was between the Giants

Well, when she's talking about it in the late 1800s, it's like this happened in deep, you know, it's like it happened a couple thousand years prior at least.

Okay, but correct me if I'm wrong, I'm gonna put a picture up here. I don't know if this is what I had in mind, but is this accurate from the archeologists at Lovelock Cave? Does that look familiar to you?

Yeah, that no, that's not from Lovelock Cave. But that is a thought of photo of a supposed mummy giant that somebody had. Yeah. In the late 1800s.

Okay. Yeah, because that's not the photo that I'm thinking of. I'm thinking of more, and I'm going to keep looking here while you're talking, but I'm thinking of almost like miners or something. Yeah. Standing around skeletal remains of a giant. I'm going to have to find that.

Yeah. I don't know if I've seen anything like that, but if you go to my blog, mygallithicmarvels.com, and there's a search tab near the bottom right. And if you type in Lovelock, you'll see all kinds of articles and photos. yeah. So, you know, her, her autobiography brought this, this legend to life when she said it really happened. And I've got this dress. Fast forward to 1911. There's miners.

Okay.

Wow.

who are mining for bat guano, that's bat dung, which was used as fertilizer in all these caves in Nevada. Because in these caves, there's just hundreds, if not thousands of bats, right? And so over hundreds and thousands of years, there's so much valuable fertilizer, imagine having that job, that they can scoop out of these caves. So that's what these guys were doing in 1911. They were in this giant cave.

middle of nowhere, Nevada, scooping out the guano and guess what they begin to find? Countless artifacts. The most elaborate duck decoys on earth, which are like 4,000 plus years old. They're on display at the Smithsonian in New York now. And so they found duck decoys, which is weird for a desert cave, right? And then they found

The University of California Berkeley sends out a team of archeologists to take over the site. And their names were Loud and Harrington. That's the last names of these archeologists. And these archeologists excavated over 10,000 artifacts. Long story short here, including skeletons. And again, when they wrote this book, they wrote a book called Lovelock Cave. That was their book.

And guess what? The archaeologists, this is before political correctness, right? Before the Smithsonian really shut everything down. They said what we found in the cave, and I'm paraphrasing here, basically really lends credence to the legends of the Paiutes, that there was a giant race that once existed. And they said, we found giant weapons. We found

large skeletons and they said they found a six foot six, very thick, girthy giant skeleton with red hair. I know six foot six, that's not necessarily a giant. But they said the biggest giants were all taken by the miners and that the miners took a skull that was so huge that they used it in a fraternal lodge. And so the point is we got the legends, we got

The miners, we got the archeologists. They also found a humanoid skeleton which looks very similar to what we see in Paracas, Peru with a weird skull. And the archeologists said, man, the earliest inhabitants of this cave went back like 5,000 years at least. And then what's more, you can pull up all kinds of articles from Lovelock area that talk about

Mm-hmm.

Nine foot skeleton found in the Humboldt Riverbed, 10 foot skeleton found on the backside of Lovelock Cave. I tracked down the guy that heads up the anthropology department at the University of Nevada. And he features in one of my pictures a pestle, which was an ancient grinding stone. It's like this long. And he says it was found underneath a

anomalous skulls in a back room. And there's one guy named MK Davis who actually found a photo he had took in the 70s of these skulls, which I have on my website. And you'll see four skulls and there's a red one in the center, which is quite a bit bigger than the other two skulls, which looks like it would have belonged to an eight or nine foot entity. Do you see that skull?

Yeah, I'm looking right now to try to get this on here. Shoot. Because, I mean, your website there, megalithicmarvels.com, when you do that search, like you said, so many links come up here. I'm trying to find if this is, this may not be the most, does it say Don Monroe on that? Yeah. For some reason, I can't get this to get any bigger than this, but this should do the trick.

Yes, yes, Don Monroe, that's it.

Is that is that the picture you're talking about there, the four skulls? OK, cool. Wow. Wow. OK, so that's a that's a big head there.

That's it, yep.

Yeah, you can see it's quite a bit bigger than the other schools surrounding it. So that is that's the Lovelock Cave story. And so we've got news publications. Again, especially the New York Times, I've got all kinds of these documented on my website there. Here's a couple of headlines just to give you a taste. And these are all straight from the New York Times. Eight foot skeletons with filed teeth found in Virginia Cave.

Yeah.

8 foot skeletons found in underground vault. 7 foot horned skeletons found in Pennsylvania Mound.

this as well.

I have not.

So our good old 16th president, Honest Abe, he was visiting Niagara Falls, I believe during his time as president. And so he is overwhelmed by the power and the beauty of Niagara Falls, right? And he, in his journal, he writes this, quote, when Columbus first saw this continent, when Christ suffered on the cross, when Moses led Israel through the Red Sea,

Nay, even when Adam first came from the hand of his maker, then as now, Niagara was roaring here. And then his next statement is this. The eyes of that species of extinct giants whose bones fill the mounds of America have gazed on Niagara as ours do now. Is that wild?

Wow!

That's a presidential quote you don't hear dusted off too often.

That is a real quote. You can even find images of this actual quote in his handwriting online. But how nuts is that? See, the point is that even in Abraham Lincoln's day, 1800s, this was common knowledge. It was no big deal. No one was trying to hide anything or make it a conspiracy.

My goodness, yeah. And then, like you said, you get to the time of Darwin and then poof, this stuff goes away because it doesn't fit the narrative. is one of the things that you when you were going through your evidence that I didn't hear you mention that you mentioned on a recent episode over on your YouTube channel. Let me put that up there. There you go. Megalithic Marvels is that what was the finger or the wasn't it like a guy had a

What was that again? Refresh my memory.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. And you might find a picture of this on or actually, if you just Google giant Egyptian finger, it should pop up. But yeah, back in the 80s, there was, I believe, a Swedish guy who went to take a trip to Israel, not Israel, Egypt. His name was Gregor Spory. And he was in Cairo there somewhere. And he was in some guys.

Okay.

some grave robbers house who had a collection that he thought was pretty cool. And amongst this guy's ancient Egyptian artifacts was this finger.

Is that what you

Yeah, that's it. There's many photos of it taken by this guy named Gregor Spore, but this is a great one. There's another one that shows it next to an Egyptian dollar bill to kind of give it size reference, but that finger is like 14 inches long. okay. So do the math and figure out how big of an entity that would have. But this finger, the guy told him it was actually,

Go.

you know, had actually been discovered like a hundred years prior by his family and that they kind of kept it in the family and passed it down. And he said, he believes it was a hundred percent real up close. You could see, the skin cracking. could see fungus on it. The nail was loose and you can see the, bone kind of coming out of the right side there. Yeah.

Look at it, man. It's the size of this guy's belly. And it's a finger.

That's right. It is intense. And so, yeah, I mean, again, we can go to Egypt. There's all kinds of legends there as well of ancient giants, of pharaohs who were giants. There was a king pharaoh, Cascomway, who was at least eight, eight foot tall. We've got the the famous pharaoh Akkignaten.

Ha

Again, when you look at him, it looks like he's got really strange features when you compare him to most of the other dynastic pharaohs. Why is this one pharaoh so uniquely different looking depicted than the others? He's got slanted like serpentine eyes. He's got this long chin. He's always wearing this massive elongated

They would call it a headdress, but it really looks like a covering for an elongated skull. And then his family, again, those busts I've shown of the pictures of Akkagnaten's daughters in the Egyptian museum, they all have huge, massive elongated skulls. So was this, the theory is, was this a hybrid? Remember, they wanted to rule. They wanted to set up kingdoms and dynasties.

Did he come to power in Egypt? And is that why they hated him? Because when you study Akhaganaten, after he died, the dynastics tried to erase him from history. Everything he did was carved over, etched over. He tried to change the religious system. And so he was like this completely different ruler that came to power.

So yeah, lots of giant lore in Egypt as well.

And those of you in the comments, I am taking notes here. We're gonna revisit some of these questions. There's been some good ones here. I've been taking note that I will ask Derek before we part today. So keep them coming. My goodness, I'm just trying to figure out where to go next because there's so much I want to ask you. Do we... Just clear this up for me.

Do we think, or is there a school of thought that thinks that people with red hair today are somehow related to the Nephilim, or is that just me dreaming that somewhere?

I wouldn't say that anyone with red hair is related.

Okay. How about people in the NBA though? Go ahead. Sorry.

Gary Wayne, he's the foremost expert on Nephilim bloodlines. And he would tell you that there are people alive today that have descended from the Nephilim, but they're mostly royalty that are in high powers of positions that have protected the bloodlines.

And so they know. there are some people that believe that they are of these giants. Yeah.

There's, he would say there are people today that yes, believe that they are descendants of, the ruling elite of the ancient days. And yeah, he would give you all kinds of examples on that. That's not my specialty, but I will tell you that the giants of old, they had different hair colors for different regions. Like the giants of the England area, they were known to have, you know, blonde hair.

The ones in North America had red mostly Peru red hair dark red hair and that's something we can talk about next is the elongated skulls real quick if you want

Yeah, please go ahead. Yes, sir.

So again, I've tried to make a decent case of we have all these pieces of evidence for this Nephilim hybrid race, whether it's the Bible, right? Non-biblical scholars like Josephus, Lovelock cave skulls, the writings of all of these publications from the late 1800s, the legends of ancient Sumerian, the Anunnaki.

I mean, there's so many different trails we could go down. The flood giants in Peru of giants. And I should say another rabbit trail before I talk about the elongated schools of Peru is when you look into the writings of the Spanish chroniclers. Cause you know, you had the conquistadors taking over Peru, defeating the Inca. And so a lot of what we know about the Inca empire.

All we know is what these Spanish chroniclers wrote, because the Inca didn't really have a written language. So all we know is the memories that the Spanish chroniclers captured from talking to the Inca. And so what some of these Spanish chroniclers wrote about is nutso. They talk about different events, or guess what they found? Gigantic.

Right.

mummified elongated skulled humanoids and caves.

They talk about one point these, cause what was happening is the priests were going in the Inquisition and they were trying to wipe out anything that was a cult or witchcraft, right? And so they were relic hunting. They were going into the Incas caves. And I should just say this was, well, I'll go there in a minute. They were going into the Inca caves to take away their mummified Malkis. Malki means mummy.

and the most prized possessions of the Inca wasn't their gold and their silver, it was the mummified remains of the elite ruling race that preceded them. They hid them everywhere in caves, in secret tunnels. They called them the Malkis and these were these huge elongated skulled entities. The Inca worshipped them.

In fact, all over Peru is not just megalithic walls, but there's what we call wakas. That's what the Inca called them. These are any megalithic trapezoidal precision cuts that you see in caves or out of the bedrock. They were made by a lost civilization with lost technology. Again, we're not even talking about a wall that could have been made with geo-polymer. We're talking about you go into a cave.

Anybody can look up a cave called Napa Iglesia, my favorite place in Peru. I've talked a lot about it. This is a remote cave high in the Andes. You hike way up there. You go inside this trapezoidal cave and inside is what looks like a precision laser cut stargate that spans the entire wall. It's got to be 100 feet long. And it's like seven layers deep where it ends in this

Faux door that looks like you're going to walk into the mountain. Again, this is andesite. There's no way the Inca could have chiseled it, let alone precision shaped it with their little copper chisels and hammers. The Inca found this, but when you get into the legends, here's where it's crazy. The Inca, what they were doing is they were finding these ancient sacred sites and they were repurposing them. They called them wakas.

I know man.

So what they would do is on the summer and winter solstices, the high days, when they believe the energy vortexes were open, the ink would come to these sites and guess what they would bring out behind the corner? Their mummified malkeys, these ancient hybrid elongated skulled humanoids, they would set them in what they called the portal.

Mm-hmm.

Now this isn't me saying it, this is the Inca legend saying what I'm about to say, okay?

I love it.

The Incan legends say that on these high days, these solstice high energy days, that somehow these mummified humanoid entities would become animated and would speak to the Inca and tell them what to do and give them prophecies and how nuts is that? So the point is the Spanish chroniclers talk about how they even found giant

Malkis as well. So that takes us to these elongated skulls. The skeptics will say, well, this is just cradle headboarded people. No big deal. Well, again, the general population was cradle headboarding, but they were trying to look like the elite few, if that makes sense. elite few had naturally elongated skulls and most of these skulls were found in Paracas along the coast down there.

And these naturally elongated skulls have all these genetic anomalies, larger eye sockets, huge thick jaw bones. They're missing the sagittal sutures that our skulls have.

On many of these natural elongated skulls, guess what's found at the back of the head? Two dots in the very back of the head where some type of tubes came out of them. What's more is they have anywhere from 25 % to 40 % more cranial mass than we have. Cradle headboarding can change the shape. It can magically add more cranial volume. These were 100 % genetic hybrids.

See now, and you touched on, mean, that is fascinating in of itself, but you touched on the wall that you referenced in the cave. And it's so obvious to anyone being intellectually honest that ancient technology as we know it, didn't build this stuff around the world, whether it's pyramids or temples or just even walls and stuff with the...

with the exactness of these things. And one of the most fascinating things from your recent discussions with Gary Wayne is that these are apparently lost technologies that is a, like to look back at ancient times and think, man, we are so far ahead of where they were. the, I get the feeling that we're the ones trying to play catch up with them. This is lost technology. Yeah.

100 % Yeah, we would be told today that we're the the zenith the height of technology. No, we're just barely scratching the surface of what they mastered in the Golden Age. Almost every civilization has legends of a Golden Age where the gods mingled with men. When we go back to the Book of Enoch, I read you a couple scriptures out of chapter six and seven. The parts I didn't read talk about how

guess what these fallen angels had to trade the fathers of the earth women they married for their hand in marriage. They had to trade them secret knowledge and technology. And it talks about that's what they traded to be able to marry and intermarry and have children. So there was lost civilizations, there was lost technology. I mean, one,

If anybody can ever come on a tour with me, especially my Egypt tour this year or Peru or anywhere, but I'm just thinking of Egypt right now. One trip inside the great pyramid will shatter any doubt you had at lost technology. It's like entering a high tech machine like structure. When you go inside the pyramid, it's not just a bunch of blocks stacked up in a triangle.

right?

This thing has 70 ton granite blocks inside the so-called King's chamber. I say so-called because I never found a king in there. This was a resonance chamber and there's 70 ton blocks that were lifted 300 feet high inside. When you go down the 300 foot passageway that goes to the subterranean chamber, it's super steep, right?

You have to crouch over because you can't fully stand straight up. My point is it wasn't, you can tell it wasn't designed just for humans to be going inside of. It was more like a maintenance shaft for some device that went down because you have the back breaking bend over all the way down and up while you're holding onto the wooden railings they've put in in modern times and wooden staircases they've put in in modern times.

And so anyway, that's a rabbit trail, but no, we have.

Go ahead, go ahead, please.

no, know you got some questions so we better get to those with the time we got left.

Yeah, I'm seeing the time here. Just real quick, talk about what happened to you when you went to that temple with that natural energy. You took your shoes off in it and it just was incredible, right?

in the King's chamber.

I don't know where it was, but-

Yeah, I think they're talking about the King's chamber, which I was just talking about, with the 70 ton blocks. But yeah, although these are ancient superstructures from the old world, the golden age, there's still energy that leaks out of them. That's an option. I often tell people I'm not a big feeler like my wife's a feeler. She can feel any kind of vibe, good or bad. I'm just a big dummy with that stuff. But when I was in the

Okay.

King's Chamber last year. I took my shoes off inside again the so-called King's Chamber because it's got. It's got like a granite. believe the walls are granite and the floor is limestone. all this stone specifically activates each other and somebody said dude, you should take your your shoes off. You gotta feel this. So I did actually laid down.

with my shoes and socks off. And it was one of the most strongest energy sensations I've ever felt. I say it's equivalent to if you ever been to the dentist and taken their laughing gas. And it's just kind of like you feel this wave just kind of just wave roll over you of like, that's what it felt like.

And so you'll feel that at different places at these ancient sites, whether it's Peru, but especially in Egypt at some of the temples or this king's chamber. But it's real. The ancients knew how to tap into the magnetism of the earth combined with the power of the sun combined with the geology of the specific stones. When you look into what Rose Granite does, it acts as a conductor for limestone. They were

They were masters at this. They didn't need archaic telephone wires or power cables. They were just using the pyramid to act like a holistic energy machine, if that makes sense.

It's I mean it just goes to show that we're the ones that are behind on technology not the other way around. Okay, so I'm looking at my questions. I got about seven questions left here many of them incorporated from the chat So I wanted to respect your time. So we have about 15 minutes left here CERN you talked about that on a recent episode. That's not just some nerds hanging out in Europe with a hydrogen collider, right?

You know, yeah.

You know, however you want to answer that, like I know, I know, I know you could go on forever about that, but I'm just looking at the clock here.

Yeah, know, CERN, I haven't looked super in depth at it, but again, from my discussions with others and from what I have researched, here's the world's largest hydrogen collider, which is beaming into space. And to me, it's the symbolism that surrounds it that is kind of looks like the tell, right? They've got the God Shiva, the destroyer.

statue on the outside of this CERN huge technological device. If it was just a scientific device that wasn't doing anything spiritual or trying to do anything spiritual, why would they have the statue of the god Shiva outside? if you study Shiva, you'll figure that out.

That's so weird, man. Yeah, there's more there, definitely. One of the things there at Megalithic Marvels that really stood out from the discussion was something I had never heard before. Who am I kidding? Most of this I haven't heard before. But talk about the FOIA request that I guess when Hillary Clinton was Secretary of State, what was that all about exactly?

Yeah, that's crazy. I mean, these are real declassified emails that mentioned Hillary Clinton inquiring about the tomb or, you know, even the body of Gilgamesh. Right now, if you look at Gilgamesh, this is an ancient, you know, Sumerian. Some would say God, but most would say hybrid.

Ha ha ha!

or he might've been, you know, thought of as a king, but he kind of goes hand in hand with the Anunnaki, which is kind of almost like the Sumerian version in ways of the Nephilim. And so, yeah, it's strange that you've got Hillary Clinton inquiring about Gilgamesh. And so this leads many, many to wonder, you know, what were the real reasons we were invading, you know, Saddam Hussein's palace and

And there's all kinds of rumors of artifacts. And you've probably even heard of this story of the what's the name the Candahar giant? Have you heard of that? Okay.

That was from Born Genius. She posted a question there along this line. Tell us about the Candelar Giant because that's something that I've only recently become aware of as well.

Yeah, again, there's others who could give you a better deep dive an eye on this. But from what I've heard, again, this was Kandahar. Is that what country is that? Afghanistan. So the story goes that during, you know, what is was it Desert Storm or, one of the.

11 we went to Afghanistan and yeah and I guess it was US troops right that were involved in something here.

US troops were in a very remote region of the mountains near Kandahar and they were investigating something. I don't know if they had a tip or what, but they are high in the remote mountains and in the distance is a cave.

And they're approaching this cave when, from what I remember, some of the troops here, gunfire, I don't know if there was other servicemen up closer to the cave than the rest, but they rushed the cave and outcomes. What would look like a, I'm not, not a giant like in modern day clothing, but we're talking like a, a giant from 10,000 BC.

It's crazy that sounds and I'm pretty sure the description said red hair, but this thing was like nine plus feet tall and I believe it had a spear and it literally speared one of the guys on like his pike. And so they opened fire. They mowed down this, this giant. And again, all this sounds so insane, right? Yeah.

What's given it credibility is I think there's one or one or two witnesses, at least one. The main witness of this story who talked to Ellie Marzulli is, was the helicopter pilot who is responsible to fly the giant in this gigantic helicopter or plane, one of those two, to a base in the U.S. And the helicopter pilot says that he literally saw it on a pallet.

You know, they had it, they were trying to have it covered, but it was so big. One of its arms was hanging out. I think he saw some of the red hair. And so that's the Kandahar giant tail of a possible giant.

Okay, old guy with a microphone asks if they did DNA tests on that giant finger we had earlier that was, how many inches was it long? 15 inches or so? What was it? Yeah, okay, so any DNA tests you're know of on that?

14 or 15, yeah.

Nope, I haven't read that there was any DNA tests, but the guy that photographed it said that the owner who owned it, his family in the sixties paid to have it x-rayed and stuff like that. And that the x-rays came back, this is an authentic finger with everything a finger would have in it, you know, so.

Okay, let's see here. Where am I going next? Mandalorian Patriot was asking if there was, if the giants that we were talking about earlier in the program, were they around at the same time as the dinosaurs?

Wow, that's a deep question.

And before you answer, I will say, sir, if you ever find your way to Dallas, Texas, I got to take you to the ICR Museum where there is evidence that dinosaurs were around in the not too distant past with certain drawings and stuff at castles and what have you. So I just absolutely fascinating.

It's absolutely fascinating when you consider all this. Hey, I would encourage everybody to follow my friend on Instagram. His name is Travis Roy. He has an account called Giants of Ancient America. And he posts lots of articles about giants in these headlines and these articles. what really sets him, Travis, apart is, and you'll appreciate this being in Texas,

He's posted some crazy photographs of him discovering what looks like arrowheads or axe heads that are about this big.

Okay.

Yep, Giants of Ancient America.

Good. Instagram. Okay, go ahead. Sorry.

He's found these, whether he calls them arrowheads or axeheads, this big along certain riverbeds outside of, believe, the greater Dallas area. What's more, he found photographs of giant footprint of his foot next to it. Okay, and it's gonna blow your mind because this thing was for like a 10 foot tall entity.

And what's his name again?

Travis Roy, Giants of Ancient America.

Does he live here in Dallas?

Yeah, he lives somewhere there.

So I'm going to go have a beer with this guy.

Yeah, you got to have him on to talk about these giant footprints he's dinosaurs, mean, there's so much there. You know, this in this could even get into the gap theory that some people talk about. I don't think we've got time to unpack at all, but I think there is. guess I'll answer this. I think there's definitely a possibility that they were simultaneously roaming the planet.

Nice. Big Poppy asked any connection there between the Nephilim and UFOs?

man, I think there could be a huge, massive connection. When you study the topic of the Nephilim, some would tell you, well I should say, let's start with aliens. Some would tell you that aliens are Nephilim 2.0 repackaged.

Meaning that if, again, if the watchers were genetically starting this breeding program with women to create a hybrid race, right? Well, what did mankind eventually do? They somehow wiped out the illegal race. Well, God did the first time. And then the second time, this is why God's telling Joshua, Moses,

Israel to wipe out the inhabitants of Canaan. It's not because God is advocating for mass murder. It's because these were all hybrid deluded Nephilim tribes.

So that's why, again, that's why the spies of Israel see the sons of Anak, the Israelites look like grasshoppers in their sight. God's telling them, this time you got to take dominion. I reset the world the first time. Now you've got to take dominion. This is why all of David's mighty men, when you read, what is it in 2 Samuel? The one common thread of David's mighty men is they're all slaying hybrids.

They're all slaying giants or hybrids. In fact, I'll prove it to you with a couple of scriptures to close this out.

Okay.

OK, so.

We've got...

What is this? 1 Chronicles 12, 8. It says, of the Gadites, they're separated themselves unto David into the hold to the wilderness men of might and men of war fit for battle that could handle shield and buckler whose faces were like the faces of lions and were as swift as the rose upon the mountains. When you kind of do a breakdown of the Hebrew there,

the son of a valiant man of Cobzeal, who had done many acts, he slew two lion-like men of Moab.

Right?

That's good stuff,

And so there's so many scriptures like that, but the old world was a weird world. But again, back to the aliens thing, there could be a connection, you know, because Christ said, as it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. A lot of people would say, we're living in the end days. Okay, well, what was happening in the days of Noah? Everything that we just discussed.

was happening in the days of Noah, which was why I believe God sent the flood. It was Nephilim genetic breeding. It was hybridization. Okay, so with the technology we have today, right? mean, we know the governments have breakaway technology that's at least a hundred years ahead of what we know of now. If that's true, and if Hillary is

doing FOIA requests for the body of Gilgamesh, follow me, Nephilim DNA cloning technology. So that's one aspect of it. But then the other aspect of it is did the Nephilim, did they kind of go off world? the Watchers had the ability to descend to planet Earth, couldn't they descend somewhere else?

and couldn't they take the DNA and this kind of goes to the topic of abductions. What's the common thread of abductions? It's that they're, it's DNA, it's all that stuff. So could they be taking that and doing a genetic thing again, repackaged for a great deception?

man!

Does this count? Oh, good point. Good point. Does this count as an elongated skull right here? Very cool. So let me just leave you with this last thought there. Honestly, what you've discussed for the last 90 minutes makes our Roswell crash site UFO discussions that we've had in the past and the technology that our government took from that 70, 80 years ago.

This Derek is together, but I was so fascinated by the connection between Da Vinci's Last Supper and his Likely trip to ancient Egypt go watch the videos that Derek has put together at the YouTube channel megalithic marvels and megalithic marvels calm Derek Olson, this has been

just a treat, a great conversation. And I appreciate you taking time, sir. Any, any parting thoughts you want to share on this topic?

Oh man, no, would just say thank you so much for the opportunity. Had a great time and I really hope people enjoyed this. know, I always encourage people don't take my word for it necessarily, but do the research yourself. Look into some of this. It's amazing what you'll find. And again, I, I've just always been one these critical thinkers who doesn't just accept the mainstream narrative on anything.

Amen.

And I just think it's so key with history. And what's crazy is once you get out in the field, like I said, and you touch these megaliths and you start learning the legends. When the oral traditions of the Inca or the dynastic Egyptians, it's crazy how it's this crazy what they're describing. There's so much more there than we've been told. And so that's why I think history is so fascinating.

And list off the countries you're going to be visiting in 2026, Derek, and people could join you at megalithicmarvels.com, right, if they want to join you on these trips. Where are you going again?

Yeah, thank you. Yeah. Going to Peru and Bolivia this September. It's going to be an epic trip. We're going to go down to Southern Peru and the Lake Titicaca region. We're going to see what the Inca called ancient portals, the Amaru Muru Stargate, which looks like this star gate carved into this hillside. We're going to go into Bolivia and go to Pumapunku, one of the craziest megalithic sites on the planet. And then we're going to take a road trip up.

whoever wants to do it and go to Machu Picchu and see the the can't miss stuff in Cusco and then October. I'm super excited. My first ever time to Turkey. It's like the one place I haven't been. So, we're going to ancient Turkey. We're going to see Gobekli Tepe, one of the oldest sites on earth, Karahan Tepe and all the can't miss sites and then again, that's October and then December 1st, the 12th, going back to Egypt.

We're gonna have a private visit inside the Great Pyramid for two hours, just our group, where we get to run around and see anything we want inside there. There is nothing like it. And so go to megalithicmarvels.com slash tours.

megalithicmarvels.com slash tours. Derek Olson, it has been such a treat. Thanks for taking time and thank you to all of you who have joined us today. We'll see you in about 22 hours from now, right here for the Friday live stream. Until then be safe everybody. Thanks so much, Derek. I appreciate it.