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Episode 16 • 24th April 2024 • Films in Black and White • Doug Wagner, Marcus Destin, and Bryan Roush
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I mean, yes, we have, but also here we go.

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welcome to films of black

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and white everybody all

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right all right all right

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I don't do mouth horns.

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You don't do mouth horns.

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You were feeling the, you know,

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DJ Jazzy Jeff,

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like Will Smith summertime.

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So Brian, it's okay.

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It's okay.

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We were all feeling it.

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So it's okay.

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I missed my cue.

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It wasn't like a ton of dead air there.

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It wasn't like a lot of dead air.

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But yeah,

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I went with the Matthew McConaughey.

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I feel like you can't go

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wrong with all right, all right,

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all right.

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That used to be my go-to in

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meetings when I was in student affairs.

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So yeah.

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So yeah, I brought that out.

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It's all reliable.

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It is.

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It is nice to have in your back pocket,

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something you can go to

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whenever you need it.

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Hopefully everybody's doing well.

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It is another fantastic Monday.

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We're happy to be with you

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all today to talk a little

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bit about a lot of little things.

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Like we're going to basically,

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this is kind of the potpourri episode,

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y'all.

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We're going to

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We're going to be a little bit of this,

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a little bit of that before

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we get into a bonus.

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Last week was a little intense.

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Civil War brought a lot out.

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We were talking about war crimes.

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Some of us were maybe

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selecting our favorite ones.

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Who knows?

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Things got really intense.

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We'd have to go to the tape.

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Who knows, really?

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But I guess our podcast knows.

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We recorded everything.

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I'm excited to talk about

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some lighter things.

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Oh, yeah.

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On this episode.

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Yeah.

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But man, before we get into that, Doug,

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how are you doing?

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I'm doing great.

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Got to celebrate a birthday

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party yesterday.

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So Harrison turned seven yesterday.

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So we had a birthday, which went really,

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really well.

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So, I mean, no complaints.

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Things were great.

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So all in all, it was a good weekend.

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Everything went smoothly.

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It was what we wanted it to be.

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And here we are.

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Here we are.

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Happy birthday to Harrison.

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Whoops.

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Yeah, happy birthday to Harrison.

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So I'm glad he had fun.

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That's the most important thing.

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Yes.

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He had his first, like, big kid party,

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like, where he actually liked to,

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you know.

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God damn it.

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Okay, so Roman's in the chat.

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Roman's in the chat.

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His name this week is Sad ASPCA Dog.

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Doug didn't want to help last week.

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Yes, there will be a quote this week,

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Roman.

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Just so you know.

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Yeah, so here we are.

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But Brian, Bubble Wizard, how are you,

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sir?

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Hello.

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Yes, I'm doing great.

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I am the Bubble Wizard,

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according to my children.

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Okay.

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Because one of the

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activities that me and all

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three of my kids can do

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outside is do bubbles.

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Yeah.

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And we have these really long wands.

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We invest in the summer

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infrastructure for outside play.

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So we got bubbles.

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We got like hundreds of chalk.

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Uh, you know, we got a hundred chalk.

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I don't even know what to call them.

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I don't know.

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Whatever.

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We have a ton of pieces of chalk pieces,

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whatever.

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Um, we got, we got a big chunks.

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Yeah.

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I don't know.

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Chalk chalk pencils, whatever.

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I'm going to look.

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We got, um, we got, we got chalk.

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We got chalk.

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And, uh, so we're, we're,

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we're starting to get into

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summer mode and being outside.

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And I had this one and I was

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just like doing a figure eight.

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And my one kid was just like, dad,

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you're a bubble wizard.

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And I was like, thanks.

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I am.

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bubble wizard so I am a

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bubble wizard I am you know

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what I deserve happiness I

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deserve to be a bubble yeah

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and you know what I love

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those those are also some

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of my favorite moments when

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your kids identify

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something that like is

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rudimentary like I remember

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I was playing with a yo-yo

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once and I just was like

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letting it go and they're like

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you're so good at the yo-yo

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and I'm like uh-huh yep I

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am you should know that I'm

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excellent at the yo-yo so

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it's just always great to

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me like that for now all of

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our children still look up

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to us and are like and I

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was like dad's a bubble

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wizard rather than when

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they're 14 like dad's a douche like

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No, none of our children would say that,

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but I hear they get angsty

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when they become teenagers.

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I mean, yeah, I think my oldest is seven,

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and I'm already starting to get... I mean,

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he's in first grade,

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and he's had some of that recess attitude,

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and I'm like, whoa, okay.

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And I'm like, wow,

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it's only more intense after this.

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What's his favorite piece of

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recess attitude?

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What's the one thing he says

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where you have to like...

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fight back the tear like

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fight back the laughter a

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little bit he uh so Liam

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the other day went on a

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whole streak of like I

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don't care I don't care and

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like he like to his credit

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I'm waiting for Liam to

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listen to this in like 10

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years yeah to his credit

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like he committed to the

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bit this seven-year-old

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looked me dead in the eyes

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and I was like hey kid if

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this continues you're gonna

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lose video games he's like

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well I don't care

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I don't care and I'm like I

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know you care I know you

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care it's Lego Marvel it's

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like your two favorite

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things like I know you care

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and he's like whatever I

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don't care and I'm like you

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totally pick this up on the

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playground it's like a

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defense mechanism but my

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man like this is like

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recess ends like you you live here

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Yep, that's right.

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My favorite from Harrison is, I don't know,

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you tell me.

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Like,

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that's my favorite one that he's been

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doing lately is, I don't know,

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you tell me.

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And we'll say things like, hey, man,

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have you brushed your teeth?

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He'll go, I don't know, you tell me.

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And I'm like...

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because he's not even like

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using it quite right like

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that's amazing that's

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perfect like oh my gosh hey

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did you eat all your peas I

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don't know you tell me and

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he'll like show me the

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plate and I'm like I mean

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yeah you did you could have

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just answered me that way

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like that's my that one is

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my I don't know you tell me

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and I don't care because we

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had a we had a streak oh I

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don't care too brian yeah

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we had a streak but I don't

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know you tell me is my favorite i

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I like I don't know you tell

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me because there are

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literally going to be

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things where it's like no I

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I do need you to tell me

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like I do need you to tell

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me this like I wasn't there

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did you did you do that

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like like yeah yeah man

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it's the best that's that's

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incredible seven-year-olds

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are another level

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seven-year-olds are just

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coming into their own I

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didn't ask you about your

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Chiron sir it you list

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yourself as Doug white girl

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interrupted what's going on there

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so we're going to cover this

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today we got a new

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wolverine and deadpool

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trailer and white girl

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interrupted was my favorite

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nickname for cocaine that

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they used in the trailer so

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there was a string of them

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there was a string of them

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where it was like oh my

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gosh like I love marching

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marching powder white girl interrupted

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Um, they were all really great,

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but for some reason,

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white girl interrupted,

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I thought was hilarious.

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So that's incredible.

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That's incredible.

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But we're going to carry on.

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So you might notice Marcus is in here.

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Uh, the,

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the state of student affairs is

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that he's got stuff to do.

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Um, and here's where we're at,

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but we are going to play a

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little game called catch that quotable,

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uh, catch that quotable.

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Sounds of Doug Wagner.

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The harsh tones of Doug Wagner.

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I can try to T-Swift it,

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but it's going to be ugly

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and nobody wants that.

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Brian, I don't need to hear it.

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You're not breaking up with

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Catch That Quotable.

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We don't need to know.

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We're fine.

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That's it.

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Yep, that's the one.

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So this week we are going to do a quote.

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Now, Roman did send us to the one.

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I'm saving the one that he

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sent us to fill that

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quotable because I feel

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like Marcus would be mad if he missed it.

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And he'd also be mad at us

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if we missed it.

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So we're going to go back to

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last week's quote.

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I don't know why I'm telling

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all of you this,

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but that's what we're going to do.

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No, that's what we should do.

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So, Brian,

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are you ready for this week's quote?

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Doug, hit me.

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I woke up this morning, you know,

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and the sun was shining and

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it was nice and all that type of stuff.

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And the first thing I saw you and I said,

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boy,

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this is going to be a one terrific day.

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So you better live it up

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because tomorrow you'll be nothing.

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You see?

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And I almost was.

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Oh, boy.

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Yeah, that's how I felt too.

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Okay.

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That's how I felt too.

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This is a quote from a piece

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of cinema that was shot with a camera.

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That's most likely in the past 50 years.

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Yep.

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So I'll read it again.

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I don't know what this is.

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I need to stretch this out.

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I woke up this morning, you know,

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and the sun was shining and

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it was nice and all that type of stuff.

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And the first thing I saw

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and the first thing I saw you and I said,

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boy,

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this is going to be one terrific day.

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So you better live it up

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because tomorrow you'll be nothing.

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You see?

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And I almost was.

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No idea.

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OK,

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so the only thing that I can get is

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this is either I don't know

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if it's like a comedic tone or not.

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It feels like it's a comedic tone.

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And so my knee jerk reaction

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is to say this is from like

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Scary Movie 3.

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Like if that's the only

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thing that I can think of,

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like I can see Kevin Hart saying this.

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I'm getting a vibe that it

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is it is an existential piece of cinema.

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If we're going to be using

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the fancy terms here.

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Yeah, that's fancy.

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We're fancy today.

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Mr. Watkins, that's for you.

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That was one of my film, my film teachers.

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I this it feels cheeky,

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but it also feels serious.

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So it feels like this person

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that is speaking is going to die.

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Yes.

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And they see someone and they're like, oh,

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well, this isn't so bad.

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But then they end up living.

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So I'm trying to think of a plot.

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Yeah.

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Like a movie like that.

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Yep.

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You know, there's Angel.

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There's Angel with, I think,

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John Travolta.

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But I feel like that is.

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Is that Phenomenon?

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No, I honestly think the movie was... Oh,

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it was Michael.

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I take it back.

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Oh, Michael, yeah.

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Michael.

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Yeah, it came out in 96.

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I watched that with my parents,

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but y'all don't need to know that.

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Brian,

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that's because this movie and there

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were like a string of

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movies like that movie that

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we all collectively watched

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with our parents.

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Like Angel...

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We all watched Splash with

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our parents at some point in time.

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The movie where Tom Hanks finds a mermaid.

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Contact.

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We all watched Contact.

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We all watched My Stepmother

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is an Alien with Dan Aykroyd.

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We all watched those kind of

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movies with our parents.

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yeah um yeah that I don't

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know michael's coming to

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mind but I i don't feel

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like that's it um I don't

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feel like that's it welcome

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marcus the real big texas

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oh here comes big texas

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holy shit he's got a gun

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yeah just like big texas

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it's just you know his name

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jamal yeah yeah

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Welcome, Marcus.

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Welcome.

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We're in the middle of muddling through.

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I sang Big Texas to myself

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for a majority of the day today.

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Me too.

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Marcus, here's the quote.

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Brian looks very serious.

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His trusty steed is named Jamal.

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We got completely

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sidetracked by Big Texas

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and we're in the middle of

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Catch That Quotable.

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Come on, guys.

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Focus up.

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I woke up this morning and

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the sun was shining and it

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was nice and all that type of stuff.

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The first thing, I saw you and I said, boy,

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this is going to be one

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terrific day so you better

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live it up because tomorrow

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you'll be nothing.

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You see?

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and I almost was,

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we don't know what it is.

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Oh, fuck no.

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I don't know what that is.

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Marcus, you're supposed to come and help.

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Come on, man.

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Please help.

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Deep-ass philosophical.

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I don't know what that is.

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I don't think it's a dogma.

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We had one,

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but we weren't sure if you were

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going to be here,

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so we went to the one from last week.

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I'll be honest.

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I don't know what it is.

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Dogma is a very... That's a deep quote.

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That's a deep pull.

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Yeah.

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I don't know.

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No, I don't.

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Great.

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I have no guess.

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I'll give you a hint.

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It is a classic.

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It's from 1955.

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I don't know this.

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I don't watch anything where

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racism was still alive and well.

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Fair point.

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That is free the civil rights act.

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So I don't watch anything.

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Nothing before 2024.

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Gotta be black and white, right?

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Oh, yeah.

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Yeah.

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I mean,

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I don't think it's A Wonderful Life.

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I don't know when that came out.

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I don't know.

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Roman, give me one word in the title.

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I've looked it up,

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so I can give you a hint.

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Yeah, give me one word in the title.

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I don't know what it is.

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Not like the or an.

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Cause.

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Cause?

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Cause.

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Cause?

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Cause.

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Cause.

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You know, in the 1950s,

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all titles were long as hell.

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Like,

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I'm going to go meet Grandma in the

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Rainbow because... Like, Meet Me in St.

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Louis.

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Which is a real movie.

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It's like, why is that so long?

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It's a wonderful life.

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Miracle on 86th Street

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around the corner and around the bend.

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I don't know what this is still.

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I don't know what this is either.

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Are we white flagging it?

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No guesses?

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Are we just going to white flag it?

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I want one more joke on the

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long movie title thing.

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Mr. Smith goes to Washington.

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I don't know, man.

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They just couldn't.

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They could not have a concise title.

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Yeah, save their life.

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The best years of our lives.

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Anyway, I'm throwing in the towel.

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Cause and effect.

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Here we go.

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It's Rebel Without a Cause.

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Gosh dang it.

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It is considered a classic.

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It is a James Dean classic.

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I wasn't going to get this

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because like Marcus,

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I don't watch things.

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I need to re-watch it.

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I'll give you as many hints

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for the amount of catch

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that quotable you did there.

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Still salty.

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I thought we overcame it.

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We had some scheduling stuff, man.

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We had stuff to do.

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We're doing stuff.

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Did you forget that I was in

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a car with my kids?

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Did you forget?

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Did you forget?

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Marcus,

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do we want to explain Big Texas to Brian?

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What is Big Texas?

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What's happening here?

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Brian,

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I'm going to explain it to you in

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the exact way that it happened.

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That's the best way to do it.

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I'm with my guy, Doug Wagner,

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and my nephew, Harrison.

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Doug invites me to a

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Comic-Con toy con in the mall close by.

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We go up there.

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It was pretty nice.

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They had a lot of fun stuff up there.

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I got me a...

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got me a nice little small

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soldier you know that was

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yes that was a that was a

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find that was a deep find

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too I love that so we had a

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good time so we leave and

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doug's like oh man you know

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do you mind if I go by you

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know uh sam's club so I'm

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like yeah for sure because

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doug is very efficient when

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he goes in the same I don't

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waste any time no no you have to be

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Does not fuck around.

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So he goes in and we're just

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walking around.

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We're shooting the shits and

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we're just talking about like whatever,

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you know, me,

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Harrison and Doug all messing around.

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Sure.

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And so I just passed by.

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We both passed by this big

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Texas cinnamon roll.

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And I just say big Texas cinnamon roll.

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I say it just like that.

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And all of a sudden,

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I don't know who started singing.

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You did.

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It was amazing.

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You did.

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What a lead-in.

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What a lead-in.

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Brian,

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when I tell you this is exactly how

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it happened,

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I saw the Big Texas Cinnamon Roll,

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and my ADHD kicked in,

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and I just started singing,

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here's Big Texas.

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And then I said, like, you know, that's,

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and I was like,

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do you know what the beat is?

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It's dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun.

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And I was like,

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and there's a whip in the background.

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And then for the remainder of the trip,

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he and I just riffed off of Big Texas.

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That's incredible.

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We made a whole song.

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We made a song.

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So the whole song is, here's big Texas.

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Holy shit, he's got a gun.

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Here's big Texas.

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You know these colors never run.

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Here's big Texas.

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His trusty steed is named Jamal.

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He is big Texas.

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He's the hero for us all.

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Wow.

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Well, subscribe.

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I would like to like and

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subscribe to your newsletter.

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We're going to start an old

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ass black and white TV show

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with just this guy who's

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like from Texas and everybody's like, oh,

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holy shit, he's got a good.

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My favorite part was that, the holy shit,

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he's got a good.

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It really took me off guard and I was like,

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no, this is going to be

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it's gonna it's gonna be not

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what you think it's the

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only lyric that doesn't

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make sense to the rest of

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it like no it's shocking

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but the delivery was spot

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on it was spot on yeah um

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the best part of this whole

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comic trip is y'all the

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addiction's back I i found

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a I found a hall

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oh boy and the problem is is

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marcus knew precisely when

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it was gonna be a problem

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it was crazy so one of the

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vendors there he had like

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these bin he had comic

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boxes set up he goes hey

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just you know like all the

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ones that are in that bin

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like they're they're 50 off

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like so if you find

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something like go for it

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and that's where I was like

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oh shit yeah that's when you knew

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Yep, that's what I knew he had me.

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Because I had, from a while ago,

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I had these three.

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Like this Brian Michael

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Bendis Uncanny X-Men run.

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I had these first three for a while.

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And it was always on my list.

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Like, hey, I'd like to complete.

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You know me, being a completionist.

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Of course.

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And having some OCD.

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I was like,

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I'd really like to complete that.

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I'd really like to complete that.

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So Brian, I did.

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oh okay listeners he's

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holding a fat stack of

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comics so I went I went

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that was one through three

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I found four through no

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kidding that was just there

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and so wow so now I've got

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some reading to do because

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I guess you do what you all

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can't see behind me is that

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there's a stack here a stack here

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all unread that I need to

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get to at some point in time.

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I need someone to barricade

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this door and just say, hey man,

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you can come out once

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you've read all of it.

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Read, bitch!

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Sit in there and read!

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Here's the thing, though.

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I watched my guy lock in in real time,

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Brian.

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So like, did you really?

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I don't know when the last

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time you got to be around

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when you see him locking in.

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Right.

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So there was it didn't seem

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like there was like really

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a functional system to

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anybody who just kind of

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started like just flowing

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through comic book.

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Yeah.

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Here's what I've noticed.

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experienced vinyl record

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player vinyl records

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lookers people that go to

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vinyl record stores and

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people who shop at comic

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books and even to an extent

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like clothes shopping yeah

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they have a system or a way

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of like combing through

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things because you kind of

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know what you're looking

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for right I can go to a

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vinyl store and I can just

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pop through because I know

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exactly kind of where to

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look on the vinyl seam I

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know exactly what the cover

::

like what covers trying to

::

catch my attention

::

For the comic book,

::

the store we usually go to in Sioux Falls,

::

Rainbow Comics and Collectibles,

::

they have a nice system.

::

It's very easy to like – you

::

can go through everything.

::

You can be in there for hours,

::

and it's not for fighting the system.

::

This guy, nice guy,

::

he didn't tell us what the system was,

::

just what the deals were.

::

Got it.

::

It didn't look like there

::

was one because what threw

::

me off was I found like 18,

::

and I was like –

::

i was like where's but I was

::

like 1918 and I was like

::

why are we doing this in

::

reverse order it just

::

didn't make any sense to me

::

and so I was like all right

::

well let's keep going back

::

and see if I can find it

::

and finally I got to that

::

one I was like this is nope

::

fuck all right here we are

::

and I was like and I just

::

once I figured it out once

::

I figured it out I was it

::

was fine it was like you

::

saw the code of the matrix

::

and you're like yep I know

::

Brian,

::

he stopped making jokes and

::

immediately got quiet.

::

All I could hear in my ear

::

was a... He came out with a stack.

::

This is what amazed me.

::

He did the math on the stack

::

of comic books that he got.

::

Basically, he got a hell of a deal.

::

It was actually a great deal.

::

It came out pretty cheap.

::

If you think about it, I got...

::

what was it?

::

Four.

::

So I got like 18, almost 18,

::

19 comics that I got for

::

essentially like 50 bucks.

::

Like, because yeah, they should have been,

::

I did the math in my head.

::

Like I was just running the

::

math in my head as it was going.

::

It was like, yeah, yeah, this makes sense.

::

Like that should have easily

::

been a hundred bucks.

::

Oh, easy.

::

Absolutely easy.

::

Wow.

::

We were, we're fine.

::

So here we are.

::

Wow.

::

That's awesome.

::

But more importantly, y'all,

::

We had a fire trailer

::

released this morning.

::

We got another Deadpool and

::

Wolverine trailer.

::

I don't think this one's going on TV.

::

This was the red band.

::

This is the red band trailer.

::

I guess it was.

::

We'll drop a link in the

::

episode description so that

::

you all can check it out if

::

you haven't already.

::

Gentlemen,

::

first thoughts on this Wolverine

::

Deadpool trailer.

::

I mean,

::

it fulfilled all expectations just

::

by... It caught me off

::

guard with the seriousness of the tone,

::

if I'm just being honest.

::

Yes, I agree.

::

Because everything... It's Deadpool.

::

It's supposed to feel goofy.

::

It's supposed to be funny.

::

And everything we've seen

::

leading up to this point

::

has been that same Deadpool feeling.

::

But this trailer kind of

::

showed the seriousness of

::

what the... Kind of the

::

thick of the plot is in

::

that it pretty much

::

revolves around a Wolverine

::

redemption arc.

::

It appears that way.

::

It certainly feels that way.

::

Yeah.

::

So I thought that was pretty cool.

::

Yeah,

::

I think one thing that jumped out to

::

me immediately was how it

::

this is all multiverse.

::

I don't think we're getting

::

I don't even think we're

::

going to be in Deadpool's world,

::

even if that is the same

::

world as the MCU.

::

Like, I don't think.

::

I don't think we're getting any of that.

::

I think we are immediately

::

multiverse hopping.

::

That was the thing that

::

stood out to me immediately.

::

And I also enjoy that it

::

seems like there's going to

::

be this element of like, no,

::

like Deadpool, for some reason,

::

you're the only one that

::

can go save this particular

::

universe or you're the only

::

person that can recruit

::

Wolverine or something like that.

::

So I'm, I'm really pumped for that.

::

I feel like that's going to

::

be a fun twist and it's Deadpool.

::

I feel like it's going to be

::

irreverent at some point

::

with that concept.

::

And I'm very much here for it.

::

Yeah.

::

And I like that they did it.

::

The tone is serious because

::

there's stuff going on.

::

But they also kept those

::

elements of it of like why

::

you showed up like of those

::

like fourth wall breaking moments.

::

And then even like so

::

staying true to character,

::

which I really like really

::

appreciated a lot, which was.

::

Yeah.

::

Let me know at which point I

::

can just go off.

::

Go for it.

::

Go do it.

::

Do we want to now?

::

Do we want to keep?

::

No, seriously.

::

I want to keep digging up

::

the trailer first.

::

Are we sure?

::

Okay.

::

All right.

::

Listen.

::

Let that dog off the chain.

::

It has nothing to do.

::

It has nothing to do with the trailer.

::

It has something to do with

::

a tweet I saw about the trailer.

::

Oh, that's fine.

::

It's trailer adjacent.

::

It's trailer adjacent.

::

Before we get to that,

::

because I also saw some stuff.

::

Let me get into some of like

::

two other meaty bits that I

::

wanted to... Brian,

::

give us your meaty bits.

::

Motherfucker.

::

I set myself up for that.

::

I really did.

::

I really did.

::

You know what, Brian?

::

I don't even blame you.

::

I mean, no.

::

That was perfect.

::

I mean, you said it.

::

I mean, you sung it.

::

Someone's going to hang it

::

over a middle center plate.

::

I'm going to hit that out of the park.

::

I'll take all your meaty bits.

::

Thank you.

::

You know what?

::

That means a lot.

::

The egg might be meaty bits.

::

Look, the two things...

::

The two meaty bits I wanted

::

to bring to everybody's attention.

::

Bigger than anticipated meaty bits.

::

Quite large.

::

Holy shit, he's got a gun.

::

I don't, but anyway.

::

No,

::

it looks like Cassandra Nova is going

::

to be an antagonist or the

::

main antagonist of this movie.

::

And I have been reading

::

comics for about 30 years now,

::

and I did not know who this person was.

::

And then I looked her up,

::

and I didn't... It's

::

probably one of the most, like, comics,

::

like, character stories I've ever heard.

::

Oh, it's 100%.

::

Like, so basically...

::

Basically,

::

she's on the level of Charles Xavier,

::

I think is the short version here.

::

She has history with Xavier.

::

She's potentially his twin.

::

Kind of, sort of.

::

That was my gist.

::

I also know she was a clump

::

of cells on a sewer wall at one point.

::

Oh,

::

that's because she was his biological

::

twin.

::

Okay, I thought so.

::

And she tried to kill him in the womb?

::

No.

::

Because she's a mama dry.

::

And so basically those folks

::

like absorb and can like

::

shift around to different

::

people based on who they are.

::

And so she she basically

::

like she tried to kill him

::

in the womb when she

::

accepted all of his psychic powers.

::

Well,

::

Charles in the womb used his psychic

::

abilities to drive her out

::

and she became a clump of

::

cells on the wall.

::

Amazing.

::

Fast forward.

::

Amazing.

::

She's a bald woman.

::

There you go.

::

She's a bald woman terrorizing.

::

She's a bald woman version

::

of Charles Xavier.

::

Yeah.

::

Cassandra Nova.

::

I feel like that's a thing

::

here popping out.

::

And then I didn't get this

::

from when I watched the

::

trailer the first time.

::

Excuse me.

::

But it appears that other

::

people picked this out.

::

There are a ton of other

::

X-Men characters in the movies.

::

Some of the Morlocks.

::

We have Azazel from First Class.

::

We've got Pyro.

::

We knew that already.

::

We did know about Pyro.

::

Someone said they saw Toad.

::

Toad was in there.

::

Yeah.

::

So that strike is in there.

::

Yes.

::

Oh my gosh.

::

I'm just I'm really pumped

::

for that because there is

::

so much X-Men history with that.

::

And some of those characters

::

got plenty of time to shine.

::

Others did not.

::

So I'm excited to see how

::

they kind of bring all that.

::

And we know Kevin Feige, he,

::

he gets how to make movies and honor,

::

like give those characters

::

time to breathe without

::

them overstaying their welcome.

::

So I'm pretty excited about that.

::

I'm really curious how that,

::

is going to hit for people

::

who don't know the X-Men movies.

::

So, I don't know.

::

This movie feels like a

::

really weird blend of a reboot,

::

but also nostalgia,

::

but also having it be

::

something new because...

::

we haven't got Wolverine in

::

his classic suit since the

::

beginning of these films in 1999.

::

So we waited now 25 years for this.

::

So I feel like people are

::

understandably hyped for it.

::

And I think that's okay.

::

Like,

::

I don't think we should shame those

::

people.

::

Wolverine was never in a comic suit,

::

which is,

::

I feel like that was really easy

::

to do and nobody ever did it.

::

Yeah.

::

One other thing I'll mention

::

about Cassandra Nova before

::

we pivot over to Marcus's thing.

::

She's also the one.

::

So the most recent episode of X-Men 97,

::

I think we talked about it

::

last week where it was like

::

a big central Sentinel

::

conglomeration that

::

attacked Genosha and the comic book.

::

She's the one responsible for that.

::

she's the one who's

::

responsible for the

::

genocide on Genosha because

::

it's a relic of her brother

::

started it and she wanted

::

to tear down everything

::

that he created so she

::

attacked and did the

::

genocide in Genosha can't

::

remember the issue but it

::

definitely happened

::

I mean, yeah,

::

I have not run into her in my comics.

::

No, neither have I. At all.

::

So I'm kind of... To be honest,

::

I'm kind of excited just to

::

see the movie version.

::

Yeah, me too.

::

I don't really feel like I

::

need to go read a bunch of comics.

::

I know that there's like a

::

comic... There's a story

::

where Jean Grey talks about it, but I...

::

I don't know where to track it down.

::

And I'm like, you know what?

::

I'm okay.

::

Like I'm okay with the movies.

::

The way she gets,

::

the way she gets beaten in

::

one issue of the comics is it's all like,

::

when we say it's like hashtag comics,

::

this is the best way.

::

This is like the most insane way.

::

Charles separates his mind

::

into a million pieces and

::

goes into the minds of

::

everybody and helped like drives her out.

::

And just like,

::

it's just the most insane

::

thing you'll ever hear.

::

So yeah.

::

You know, yeah,

::

it just kind of feels

::

like... Cassandra Nova kind

::

of feels like someone was

::

in the writing room and they're like,

::

who's a good match for Xavier?

::

And then they just kind of

::

conjured this out of thin air.

::

Amazing.

::

Amazing stuff.

::

His twin!

::

Yeah, exactly.

::

And I will say,

::

I think it's kind of a

::

unique thing because, I mean,

::

she could be a Charles from

::

a version of a... Like,

::

you know what I mean?

::

He is a freak.

::

Absolutely is a freak.

::

100%.

::

He's down to clown.

::

She could be the...

::

Thank you.

::

He wants to put some oil on that bald head,

::

and he just wants you to rub it.

::

That motherfucker was ready

::

to bark for his wife.

::

Yes.

::

In the episode, this motherfucker said,

::

they think that I'm your pit.

::

And she says, calm down.

::

I'll make you bark later.

::

And he said, I'm excited for that.

::

I mean, yeah, essentially.

::

Excellent.

::

I mean,

::

she could be a Charles from an

::

alternative universe.

::

I mean, right?

::

I mean, like, it's possible.

::

That's the thing with this is that, Brian,

::

you're right.

::

This is multiverse.

::

So she could come from

::

anywhere and be a relic of anything.

::

So there you go.

::

Yeah.

::

Marcus, I'm taking your leash off.

::

No.

::

Hold on.

::

Go nuts.

::

Go nuts.

::

You want to get nuts?

::

You want to get nuts?

::

I felt racist what I just said.

::

Yeah, I was going to go pit.

::

I was just going to ride right past it.

::

I acknowledged the mistake.

::

You did.

::

Hey, Marcus, take it away.

::

That's what makes him a great white.

::

All right.

::

Listen, here's what happens.

::

So I saw somebody pulled my phone,

::

literally just died.

::

But the post,

::

the tweet that I saw was a screen.

::

Now,

::

my favorite part of this was the fire

::

ass money shot that they got,

::

which they let us bask in

::

it for a nice little nice few seconds.

::

Wolverine sleeveless walking

::

around the corner with.

::

Yes.

::

Yes.

::

We got what we wanted.

::

We get two different

::

versions of Wolverine's classic outfit,

::

which is one that has long

::

sleeves on it and then one

::

without long sleeves on it.

::

So he walks around the corner.

::

The tweet said this.

::

It says, wow,

::

how could they ruin such a...

::

Why would they take the

::

armored shoulder pads off?

::

This is such a waste of a classic outfit.

::

Or they ruined it, basically, somehow,

::

some way.

::

Let me tell y'all this.

::

Shut the fuck up.

::

There's nothing ever fucking

::

good enough for y'all.

::

And y'all,

::

we finally get Hugh Jackman old at, like,

::

no offense to Hugh Jackman,

::

but nobody's supposed to be

::

looking like this.

::

And doing this type of stuff,

::

he's back on his Wolverine regimen.

::

The dude still looks good.

::

It's obviously a different

::

version of Wolverine, too.

::

So, like, in his face,

::

you can kind of see more

::

disgruntled Wolverine.

::

You talking this tweet?

::

This is the exact tweet.

::

What'd it say?

::

It says, someone please tell... Thank you,

::

Brian.

::

Someone please tell me why

::

they took off the shoulder

::

guards when the sleeves are off.

::

Ruins the whole Wolverine look.

::

And up to you, I want to say, Alex,

::

shut the hell up.

::

Enjoy the damn movie.

::

I mean...

::

What are you upset about?

::

You literally made him do

::

bicep and tricep workouts

::

for the better part of

::

three months so he can flex

::

and drive his claws into

::

somebody and you're not

::

going to take those sleeves off?

::

Get the fuck off, man.

::

I don't understand.

::

I don't understand this

::

tweet because also

::

Wolverine in the comics

::

has... That man has so many looks.

::

He's on so many teams.

::

He's in so many relationships.

::

I guess that one doesn't count.

::

But he has an outfit that is

::

sleeveless without the shoulder guards.

::

Like...

::

I don't understand why this

::

is even an issue.

::

Let Hugh be jacked, man.

::

I don't get it.

::

I don't get it, man.

::

Of all the things to nitpick

::

in this trailer,

::

you're going to talk about shoulder pads?

::

I hate how good that was, Brad.

::

I'm not even mad about it.

::

That's despicable how good that was.

::

Let Hugh be jacked, man.

::

Listen,

::

I just want to tell everybody to

::

shut the hell up.

::

Enjoy the trailer or not.

::

I'm at a point where, yes,

::

vocalize your opinion

::

because you have a phone

::

and you have an ex-account,

::

which I'm about to delete soon.

::

I just want to let everybody know.

::

Do it.

::

Do it.

::

At least take the app off your phone.

::

It'll do you wonders.

::

This is the most disgusting

::

app I've ever had in my life.

::

The amount of right-wing

::

propaganda that I get on

::

this fucking app is terrible.

::

It's fucking terrible.

::

Anyway...

::

elon kiss my ass so anyway

::

stop complaining about

::

little shit I think you

::

should just enjoy the

::

trailer I think we're

::

finally going to get

::

something here you know

::

about deadpool they talk

::

about there's a new theory

::

that they introduce that

::

talks a little bit about

::

when when they um when an

::

anchor figure or person

::

dies in a in a multiverse

::

realm that world dies

::

And so they will go to this

::

new idea that there will be

::

a character in each

::

universe that is important to it.

::

So if that person dies,

::

the entire world eventually

::

decays and breaks down.

::

Oh, okay.

::

So, Doug, check me on this,

::

but I'm pretty sure that's

::

the idea of Nexus beings that...

::

there is a being that is

::

connected to other realities,

::

but in their own reality,

::

they're essentially like,

::

they're the most important

::

use your terminology.

::

They're the anchor.

::

Yes.

::

And I feel like this is a,

::

if we're going down this rabbit hole,

::

um we do have stuff in the

::

mcu pointing to wanda as

::

that person and this and

::

yes I do have an affinity

::

for scarlet witch but I

::

also feel like it's

::

important to call that out

::

there was a whole fucking

::

commercial for it in

::

wandavision the nexus yeah

::

the nexus being I was

::

thinking it was spider-man

::

but yes wanda makes more sense well

::

I mean, it's from right.

::

It's from the text that we have.

::

I also feel like the MCU.

::

Honestly,

::

what I'm waiting for the MCU to

::

do is be like, oh,

::

you thought this was the main universe?

::

Check this out.

::

And then it's like a whole

::

different thing.

::

Brian.

::

I do want to add to this

::

point because I don't want

::

to bask on it too long,

::

but I think it kind of connects the dots.

::

Tom Holland has said today

::

in an interview that he

::

plans on playing Spider-Man

::

for a very long time.

::

He said he owes his career to Spider-Man,

::

and he's actually a part of

::

the early creative

::

processes to developing Spider-Man,

::

which I think is very interesting, right?

::

Which means we can get grown Peter Parker.

::

We'll get those a long time ago.

::

We predicted on this pod

::

that they would do high

::

school Peter Parker.

::

That's a three.

::

college peter parker and

::

then adult peter parker and

::

then I think that that's

::

where he would like kind of

::

pass it over to miles

::

morales gives you a kills

::

two birds with one stone

::

you get to age out of

::

spider-man and then start

::

an entirely new spider-man

::

with miles morales and then

::

kind of bring him back

::

periodically right also in

::

addition to I think it's

::

very interesting that

::

fantastic four takes place

::

in a different universe

::

okay um the universe or

::

time is it universe oh it's

::

I think it's both.

::

I think it's an entirely

::

different universe and time

::

because they said it's

::

based on a futuristic 60s something.

::

Yeah,

::

based on what they've said in interviews,

::

we're unsure.

::

We're unsure if it's our

::

timeline and our time.

::

Yes.

::

And then in addition to that, there is.

::

Oh, God, it's fantastic for.

::

And then there's one more.

::

Oh, X-Men,

::

the new X-Men that we got at the

::

end of the Marvels.

::

That takes place in an

::

entirely different universe, too,

::

as well.

::

Yeah.

::

I don't think you're far off, Brian,

::

by saying they're they're

::

like six one six.

::

Maybe the universe we're familiar with.

::

It won't be the one that we

::

should be comfortable with.

::

I think it'll all change.

::

Yeah.

::

And I don't know if they'll get away.

::

I don't know if they're

::

going to like totally destroy 616.

::

I don't think it's going to

::

be like a Deadpool killed

::

the Marvel universe type thing,

::

which I read for the first time,

::

by the way, this past weekend.

::

But I think.

::

I don't know.

::

It makes me wonder how

::

they're going to play with it.

::

And I also enjoy the idea of

::

them really establishing

::

nexus or the anchored folks of like, Oh,

::

it's like this person dies.

::

This entire world dies.

::

Um,

::

And then, yeah,

::

exactly what Mason is saying,

::

the incursions from the

::

Multiverse of Madness, which is, like,

::

probably, like,

::

my biggest gripe with the MCU right now.

::

Like,

::

because they... That's... You're

::

saying this is the Multiverse saga,

::

and then, like,

::

you haven't moved that...

::

You haven't moved that meter forward for,

::

like... Jeez, I...

::

Until June or July, right?

::

Like, right.

::

If you haven't touched it for years, like,

::

and let me correct myself.

::

And you've had almost a dozen projects.

::

There you go.

::

Like,

::

I wouldn't mind if it was like one

::

thing a year.

::

That's, that's fine.

::

If it was phase one MCU, that's fine.

::

But like,

::

you've had about 10 projects

::

to address this or figure

::

it out and nothing's happened.

::

I definitely think all your

::

anchors are going to be in

::

the last Avengers movie

::

when they do the Avengers Secret Wars.

::

I agree.

::

All of your anchors,

::

the important people that

::

are supposed to be there,

::

will get pulled in to

::

participate in this.

::

And whatever happens with

::

the Beyonder or not the Beyonder or King,

::

I think that's how they destroy 616.

::

And they bring all of these

::

different universes to one universe.

::

Your incursion is going to be this new 617,

::

618 is the new multiverse.

::

Mm-hmm.

::

I agree.

::

I do feel like it's gonna

::

pull from Oh my gosh,

::

I want to get this right.

::

The 2015 Secret Wars.

::

It's not Secret Wars two,

::

which was like written in the 80s.

::

And it's not the original

::

Secret Wars wars more.

::

Yeah, I think I think I have it over here.

::

Let me give you the okay.

::

Yeah,

::

it's the most recent secret of the wars.

::

War Machine and Miss Marvel are kissing.

::

Yes.

::

Is it the Jonathan Hickman?

::

Yes.

::

Asad, Asad Ribic.

::

Yes.

::

That one was from, Oh,

::

this is not going to help us with it.

::

That's okay.

::

Carry on.

::

I'll keep looking.

::

Authors are even helpful.

::

Like the Hickman secret wars,

::

I think is that's good.

::

And the idea there was that

::

they did pull apart all

::

these universes and they

::

made a battle world of all

::

those universes.

::

But then after that,

::

It was like, this is the one continuity.

::

Like, this is it.

::

Everybody's here and we're done.

::

Which part of me would be

::

sad to see the multiverse go away.

::

But the other part of me is like, man,

::

like the way you all handled it.

::

I'm not like super pumped

::

with how you've handled it.

::

And I'd kind of be OK clarifying.

::

closing the chapter on it

::

because I also think

::

there's a fun way to end it

::

and like if we're having

::

all these different types

::

of heroes battling or

::

villains battling each

::

other I don't really think

::

there's another way you can

::

top that with having the

::

multiverse door still open

::

right no it's got to shut

::

at some point because

::

that's where I mean that's

::

where Marvel really started to

::

They didn't know how to... I

::

don't want to say they

::

didn't know how to handle it,

::

but they got really

::

distracted by whataboutism.

::

I feel like they kind of...

::

You know what I mean?

::

It was like,

::

but what about Doctor Strange?

::

And what about his

::

girlfriend who's

::

technically a daughter of Dormammu?

::

Remember when we introduced that randomly?

::

This is all stuff that they were just like,

::

and then we could do that,

::

and then we could do that.

::

It just felt like someone was just...

::

They were playing improv in

::

the writing room.

::

And then what?

::

No, that's it.

::

No, no, no.

::

And then what?

::

They just needed to stop.

::

it really did and I i feel

::

like you know and this and

::

this happened to dc2 in

::

comic book form with crisis

::

on infinite earths and I

::

love that the entire reason

::

they did crisis on infinite

::

earths as a comic was like

::

we gotta clean this up we

::

gotta kill people we gotta

::

trip we gotta trip some fat

::

you guys like I love how

::

crisis of infinite earths

::

is held up as like oh this

::

is like the comic but it's

::

like really a glorified custodian

::

I'm just like, I gotta clean this up.

::

Flashpoint is the same thing, right?

::

It's DC's go-to every time

::

they want to mainstream

::

something or introduce new

::

characters or whatever the

::

fuck they want to do.

::

Make Flash run backwards and fix it all.

::

He runs faster, Doug,

::

and then he goes backwards, okay?

::

Come on, man.

::

Sorry,

::

the Flash movie threw me off and now

::

I'm all screwed up about how he does it.

::

Put him in the chrono

::

bowl there now brian now I'm

::

back on track thanks got it

::

don't forget the spaghetti

::

randomly oh my gosh oh my

::

gosh um yeah I oh my god

::

what a wild terrible movie

::

that is still not good that

::

movie really they looked at

::

that shit and was like put

::

it out yeah fuck it we

::

don't care honestly that's

::

the point where I knew it

::

was just kind of all made

::

up in like TV executive

::

world like that's when I

::

knew like we would do a

::

better job because like you

::

look at the flash and then

::

you hear what Batgirl was

::

gonna be and you're like

::

you're telling me that we

::

worked on this for years to

::

get this out the door

::

But you're telling me

::

there's a literal finished

::

movie with Brendan Fraser

::

as the villain and the

::

woman from In the Heights as Batgirl?

::

And you're telling me we're

::

going to trash the Batgirl,

::

but we're going to make the

::

Ezra Miller property,

::

who's super problematic.

::

They have a lot going on.

::

We're going to put that out, though.

::

You know what it probably was?

::

They were talking to the

::

they probably were like he

::

was having a conversation

::

with like his seven year old nephew,

::

Brian, to throw it back early.

::

And he's like, it's really bad.

::

I'm not sure people are going to like it.

::

And the seven year old was just like,

::

I don't care.

::

Put it out.

::

And he was like, all right, fuck it.

::

We'll put it out.

::

What is this boss, baby?

::

I mean, that would explain a lot.

::

It absolutely would.

::

Fast and Furious franchise, honestly,

::

would make a lot of sense.

::

um how much y'all need to

::

make a better movie oh my

::

god we need we need we need

::

200 patreon 200 patreon top

::

tier members and we will

::

make a better minimum well

::

we gotta get it lower

::

that's global I mean I mean

::

all I'm saying is if we

::

were in the decision room

::

and be like no you put out

::

batgirl yeah immediately

::

let me answer roman's

::

question definitely face

::

Roman,

::

if you just want a better story

::

that's written, I mean,

::

I can make a better written

::

story for like 50 bucks.

::

The visuals are going to be dog shit,

::

but the story will be much better.

::

Now, if you want high quality visuals,

::

yeah,

::

we're talking like at least 500 more

::

top tier Patreon members.

::

At a minimum.

::

For a year.

::

For a year.

::

Do it.

::

Okay, send me your memo.

::

Okay, cool.

::

Stay cool.

::

I don't know.

::

Anyway,

::

that's what I knew it was all made up.

::

We're getting into universes

::

and multiverses.

::

Before I transition us to

::

the Tom Holland stuff,

::

does anybody have anything

::

else they want to say about Deadpool or

::

I'm really excited.

::

I like the cocaine jokes.

::

Cocaine jokes are my favorite.

::

The characters, the Deadpool dog.

::

I think you can tell Ryan

::

Reynolds really wanted to do this movie.

::

He's been talking about it for a while.

::

And I love Ryan Reynolds as

::

Deadpool because he takes

::

this character serious for

::

how silly and goofy the character is.

::

I think I'm starting to like

::

Ryan Reynolds more and more

::

as a human being.

::

Like, I think like the more like, okay.

::

I mean, it's just, I, I always kind of,

::

I always looked at him like.

::

oh look at this pretty boy

::

he's probably a dick that's

::

probably a dick like wow

::

wow like I i that's just

::

kind of that's kind of how

::

I am is like if someone if

::

someone if someone's like

::

too funny too good looking

::

my my response is this

::

motherfucker probably you

::

know he's got some fucking

::

skeleton in his closet that

::

he doesn't want to tell anybody

::

But after watching the

::

Welcome to Wrexham

::

documentary where you got

::

to see him as a human being

::

and his passion stuff here,

::

I retract my previous

::

statement that he's probably not a dick.

::

Look,

::

I know we don't do a lot of romantic

::

comedies on this podcast,

::

but the proposal with Sandra Bullock,

::

he's phenomenal.

::

He blends that charming Ryan

::

Reynolds aesthetic with

::

being super sincere, and it's nice.

::

It's a good, nice...

::

date movie whether you've

::

been married for 10 years

::

or or maybe you're just

::

you're just setting out on

::

your relationship trying to

::

figure out what this is

::

what about marcus what like

::

is he's not dating but he's

::

can he watch it by himself

::

or does he have to watch it

::

with somebody that's fucked

::

up that's fucked up that's

::

by yourself yes yeah I'll

::

just take my vaseline with

::

me too and watch the movie

::

We have some chats in the

::

chat that are saying his

::

interactions with his wife, Blake Lively,

::

are fantastic.

::

They are cute.

::

They are so cute.

::

Look,

::

I'll acknowledge that something

::

happened to me where

::

someone who was really

::

funny and really pretty...

::

like said or did something

::

to me and now I've just

::

written off anybody that

::

way as like wow you know

::

what I mean like I'm just

::

now holding them all

::

accountable for one thing I

::

don't know I don't know but

::

I might write a song or an

::

album about it I hear those

::

do pretty well brian move

::

into stop moving to

::

spider-man before this

::

turns we're gonna we're

::

gonna transition here to

::

star wars uh not star wars spider-man man

::

We're talking about Spider-Man.

::

Anyway,

::

Deadline had a piece come out today

::

and it was an exclusive

::

interview with Tom Holland.

::

And the big takeaway here is

::

that Spider-Man 4 with Tom

::

Holland is in development.

::

They are currently in the script phase.

::

They are taking scripts.

::

Tom Holland is excited and

::

he is part of the early creative team,

::

which was the really,

::

I feel like that's the big

::

zinger here from this series.

::

deadline piece is that Tom

::

Holland is involved with

::

the creatives at the very,

::

very beginning of this.

::

So Spider-Man 4, it's probably on the way.

::

I think they've already got these scripts.

::

Well, he said it in a weird way.

::

It felt very PR doctored.

::

Here's the quote.

::

Quote, we're figuring it out.

::

We're at the stage where it's post-strike,

::

so we're waiting for those

::

scripts to come in.

::

Oh, he's lying.

::

He's lying.

::

So I thought that everybody

::

knew Spider-Man 4 was

::

already coming out because

::

there were already heavily

::

rumored who's going to appear in it.

::

Because Sony and Kevin Feige

::

were going back and forth

::

about which direction to

::

take Spider-Man 4.

::

Sony wanted to go multiverse, like bigger.

::

And then Kevin Feige wanted

::

to do more ground level heroes,

::

all involving like

::

Daredevil to some extent.

::

And maybe even like, you know,

::

Spider-Man running into Daredevil,

::

not as like mentor mentor,

::

but like as two guys that

::

just like whatever.

::

Because the synopsis came

::

out about Spider-Man 4 already.

::

Oh, really?

::

Yeah.

::

It was like it might have been leaked.

::

So take it with a grain of salt.

::

But it just kind of said

::

like along the lines of the

::

more Peter Parker has Peter

::

Parker is now only Spider-Man.

::

And the more he becomes Spider-Man,

::

the less he becomes Peter

::

Parker and basically how

::

he's losing himself.

::

And it's only Spider-Man

::

that remains here.

::

Sidney Sweeney was also

::

rumored to be Black Cat and

::

Black Cat is also like

::

rumored to be like the love

::

triangle with MJ will happen.

::

MJ will get her memories

::

back of Peter and start

::

getting it all back.

::

So it's like that stuff that

::

I had been reading up on.

::

So I don't know.

::

And that our guys is like

::

rumored to be the director

::

that they want to lean into

::

that did Multiverse of Madness.

::

Sam Raimi?

::

Oh,

::

that's weird because he came out in an

::

article and I'll find it.

::

He came out at WonderCon.

::

He dispelled the rumor.

::

He said, I already did Spider-Man.

::

Why would they want me to do it again?

::

Even if they offered it to Raimi,

::

I don't think he would take it.

::

Really?

::

You think so?

::

No, I don't think he'd touch it.

::

He had such a negative

::

experience on Spider-Man 3

::

that I think it would take

::

a lot for him to come back.

::

I think it would be a lot of

::

money that Kevin Feige,

::

I don't think... Marvel's

::

not in the doghouse,

::

but they're not in La La Land anymore.

::

They gotta actually...

::

I want to phrase this the right way.

::

They need to be performing

::

as they were pre-2021.

::

Chapik's not in charge anymore.

::

The instructions of give me more, more,

::

more is gone and Iger,

::

love him or hate him, said,

::

I really want to have quality stories.

::

If the story's not quality,

::

don't turn it out.

::

I think there's a lot more critique of

::

you know of the of that type

::

of stuff so I do think it

::

would be funny I mean I i

::

agree with uh I the the

::

rumor what am I trying to

::

say the rumor you're

::

talking about marcus of

::

kevin feige wanting to be

::

having spider-man be a

::

street level hero I think

::

that is the right direction

::

after no way home you can't

::

top it I don't think you

::

can top no way home as far

::

as like multiversal shenanigans

::

And I think the way you try

::

to thread that needle is

::

like he's a college student.

::

Like he is a college student

::

that survived multiversal events.

::

And how do you deal with that?

::

Like,

::

I feel like there's a good story there.

::

I also feel like this is a

::

perfect opportunity for him

::

to run into Jessica Jones or Luke Cage,

::

Daredevil.

::

Pick any of your plucky

::

street level heroes.

::

And I feel like those are

::

going to be pretty good interactions.

::

I mean, Kingpin's right there.

::

Like, it feels really... To me,

::

it feels very...

::

simple to me um but I i I'm

::

not surprised that sony is

::

like how can we make it

::

bigger after they've tried

::

to have madam webb be this

::

like whole entire spanning

::

thing and they're trying to

::

make craven the hunter be

::

it's like globe trotting

::

hunt right like all of the

::

morbius too like it's the

::

vampire and there's

::

vampires they're gonna take

::

over the city right like it's

::

They always are going bigger.

::

Those are probably always

::

the action notes that they're getting.

::

And then for Kevin Feige to be like, no,

::

actually,

::

I just wanted to save this diner,

::

actually.

::

That's it.

::

Give it to me bigger.

::

Actually, not so much.

::

I mean, yeah.

::

I don't know.

::

I don't know where we're going here.

::

I have an itch on my goddamn

::

back that's been distracting.

::

And I can't get it.

::

Just let it out.

::

You guys are talking and I'm like, yeah,

::

good point.

::

And I'm like, my fucking back.

::

Anyway.

::

Spider-Man.

::

All right.

::

Anyway,

::

there wasn't much more information there.

::

Tom Holland's in the creative process.

::

So I think that's going to be fascinating.

::

So what do y'all want to see

::

in Spider-Man 4?

::

Brian?

::

For me,

::

I want to see that college Peter Parker.

::

I want to see him coming

::

into his own a little bit.

::

I feel like No Way Home set

::

up this really cool blank slate.

::

I'm excited to see what

::

decisions Peter is making

::

without having to worry about his aunt,

::

without having to worry about

::

MJ,

::

if they do stick with nobody

::

remembering him,

::

like I feel like there's a

::

really good story to tell

::

that we haven't seen of like,

::

what does Peter do when

::

he's not having to worry

::

about protecting these people?

::

What what is it that he

::

wants and exploring what

::

that what that looks like

::

for his character?

::

I can think of a few paths of what that is,

::

whether it's his academics,

::

whether it's going full

::

time Spider-Man or whether

::

it's something like completely different.

::

I think that could be really special.

::

Yeah.

::

I think for me,

::

I want to see the

::

repercussions of the choice, right?

::

Like I, you know, I want to see, you know,

::

he made a very,

::

he made a very big decision to say,

::

what if nobody remembered

::

who Peter Parker was like,

::

and I want to see how is he

::

adapting to that in a world where,

::

Now he's in college and, you know,

::

he has this he still has an

::

identity of some way, shape or form.

::

Yeah.

::

So how does he now balance

::

of how do I get pieces of my life back?

::

But even though I've kind of

::

put all my chips in one bucket,

::

like I think there are

::

things there that are going

::

to be important to think about.

::

Yep.

::

and the scientists that he

::

could run into his teachers, right?

::

Like he's got a brilliant scientific mind.

::

Yeah.

::

You could pick one of the

::

scientific villains, spin the wheel.

::

And that's the professor

::

that he's running into in college.

::

And it needs to work.

::

I, well, I can tell you what I don't want.

::

I don't want it to be.

::

I really don't want it to be

::

a high stakes thing.

::

Like, I don't want it to be like, uh,

::

he's trying to stop the

::

entirety of the world from exploding.

::

Like keep the threat to New York city.

::

And that's fine.

::

So you're saying you don't

::

want venom taking over the city.

::

Got it.

::

Well, I would, I would take,

::

I would take like a,

::

I would take like a venom Island venom.

::

Like I'd take a venom, like, you know,

::

the symbiote storyline

::

where there's a lot of them.

::

I definitely think that's happening.

::

Oh, I agree.

::

Yeah.

::

I think so too.

::

I'm fine with that.

::

I just don't need it to be

::

the king in black.

::

I don't need the space

::

symbiote creator to come

::

down while we're dealing with Venom.

::

I don't need to do that.

::

I feel like this would be

::

the best opportunity to

::

introduce Miles because I

::

feel like Insomniac with

::

their Spider-Man 2 game showed that

::

you can have this narrative

::

of peter mentoring somebody

::

as spider-man and how

::

engaging that is and how

::

gut-wrenching emotional

::

that is when things don't

::

go right um like I that's

::

like the third path I was

::

kind of thinking of but I

::

don't I don't know if

::

they're going to be at the

::

miles stage yet but I feel

::

like at this point you have

::

to um but marcus what do you think

::

I feel like I'm going to

::

disagree with the mouse thing.

::

I think it's entirely too soon,

::

and it'll be... Really?

::

Four movies in,

::

and you feel like it's still too soon?

::

Okay.

::

I think it feels like,

::

although it's four movies in,

::

if we honestly think about it,

::

Spider-Man is just hitting

::

his solo adventure after No Way Home.

::

That's a good point.

::

To me, right now,

::

he's not in a mentoring phase.

::

Insomniac, Peter has gone through college,

::

started his own business,

::

done everything.

::

That's adult Peter.

::

This Peter still needs his

::

own mentorship that's not Iron Man.

::

So I think learning from Daredevil,

::

taking up Kingpin and going

::

up against Kingpin on your

::

own and having your own

::

enemy falling in love with

::

Mary Jane so you know exactly,

::

kind of going back to your point,

::

what is it that Peter Parker wants?

::

I don't think we can

::

introduce a Miles until

::

Peter knows who Peter is.

::

And I want to see Tom

::

Holland get some like gruff

::

on him as this college

::

mid-age Peter Parker.

::

Yeah.

::

just to have them get

::

knocked around real hard.

::

I think it's also worth mentioning that

::

I agree with Marcus,

::

but for a different reason, which is,

::

like,

::

we have the last Spider-Verse

::

animated movie that's still slated.

::

Oh, yeah.

::

And I kind of want to give

::

that enough space to

::

breathe and to finish right.

::

You know what I mean?

::

Like,

::

I want that to... Let that take its

::

space.

::

Like, let that take its thing.

::

Because if there's two

::

Mileses we have to figure out...

::

i just feel like one's gonna

::

eat the other and I would

::

rather say finish that one

::

out and then loop back

::

around yeah I think you

::

both make compelling points

::

I think for me it's coming

::

from like an audience

::

perspective of like this is

::

gonna be if this happens as

::

the fourth spider-man movie

::

like we are staring down

::

the barrel of like the

::

eighth spider-man movie

::

yes that's exactly when I

::

think you should do it 25

::

years and it's like we've

::

had Miles for like 10-ish I

::

think and I just I think

::

it's time because when I

::

think of Spider-Man I also

::

think of Miles so at some point like

::

It's just like,

::

you're clearly leaving it out,

::

but I could do one more movie,

::

but it is still going to be

::

a thought in my head.

::

I'll take two more.

::

I think he has to hit the

::

end of his own trilogy.

::

No, Brian, and here's primarily why.

::

Here's why.

::

primarily I'm more concerned

::

that they will rush miles

::

because rob miles isn't

::

just a black spider man

::

he's not just a latino

::

spider man he's an afro

::

latino character that you

::

have to get the right

::

person the right chemistry

::

they're about to introduce

::

the fantastic four and

::

x-men I think it's too much

::

I think once you get those

::

new teams established then

::

you can introduce this new

::

you got to have peter

::

parker with the human tour

::

with johnny storm fucking

::

around with each other

::

first you got to get

::

some other chemistry points

::

with Spider-Man and Tom Holland in it.

::

And then you can introduce that, like,

::

So, yeah,

::

I'm reading the writing on the wall.

::

So it's going to be

::

Spider-Man six or even even

::

hear the name.

::

Yes.

::

Yes.

::

Or I should say Tom Holland, Spider-Man.

::

Yeah.

::

So, no, I think those are all fair points.

::

And I agree with your logic

::

from like a movie from like

::

a movie rhythm.

::

Like they're going to want

::

if they're going to do this,

::

they're going to want to do another job.

::

And boy,

::

it sure sounds like Tom Holland's

::

in the driver's seat.

::

Sounds like he's the captain now.

::

He's Robert Downey Jr.

::

I think that's exactly what

::

they established.

::

He's RDJ.

::

Let's hope without the habit.

::

I don't think he wins.

::

Anyway, hope y'all like Spider-Man.

::

I'm sitting in it.

::

I made my choice.

::

Those were the two big news

::

pieces that y'all are so

::

uncomfortable and it makes me so happy.

::

Thank you, Brian.

::

I'm not saying that.

::

I'm not uncomfortable.

::

As long as you want to live and play,

::

I'm going to let you get your shit off.

::

Just remember, RDJ,

::

it's not Marcus J. Destin or Brian Roush.

::

Hey, Robert,

::

remember whose face is

::

plastered all over that FIBW stuff?

::

It ain't just me, baby.

::

What the fuck?

::

Why would you bring us into it?

::

I don't think he was using

::

during the MCU days,

::

but I'm also not a babysitter,

::

so I don't know.

::

I don't know.

::

What I do know is RDJ gave

::

us a very memorable character.

::

Is there anything that my

::

co-hosts would like to mention for news?

::

Why is there...

::

They want to bring up.

::

Because my itchy back threw

::

me out of all of it.

::

And I blame my back.

::

Who would win?

::

Human or itchy back?

::

Itchy back always wins.

::

Itchy back every time.

::

I don't give a fuck what's happening.

::

If your nose or back is itchy.

::

I've been in a meeting where

::

my nose itches.

::

There's no discreet way to do that.

::

You just look like a weirdo.

::

Rub it too much.

::

They think you're doing cocaine.

::

There you go.

::

Marcus, did you have anything?

::

Because I don't have anything.

::

No, I don't have anything.

::

Let's close it out.

::

We got a bonus episode.

::

Brian's like, hey, I got things to do.

::

An RDJ joke just sent him

::

through the roof.

::

It really did.

::

It really did.

::

He's like done with it.

::

He's like completely over it.

::

That's all you're going to

::

hear from Brian is go motherfuckers.

::

Yeah.

::

Yeah.

::

We're going to get a big,

::

we're going to get a text tomorrow.

::

That's like, Hey,

::

I think making fun of

::

someone with a drug problem

::

is a bridge too far.

::

You want to know something, Brian?

::

I don't censor fucking shit.

::

So like, I know you don't.

::

Look, man,

::

I've just seen the Letterman

::

interview with Robert Downey Jr.

::

He seems like an okay guy, all right?

::

That's all I'm saying.

::

He's a stand-up guy.

::

He feeds goats, okay?

::

Yes, he does.

::

Gentlemen,

::

what do you all have to plug for

::

this week's episode?

::

I'm here to tell you about

::

Color Me Confetti.

::

That's my wife's party

::

supply shop on Etsy.

::

Go to Etsy.com.

::

Search Color Me Confetti.

::

All one word.

::

We'll also have a link in

::

our episode description.

::

Go support a local business.

::

Are you throwing a party?

::

Don't order anything.

::

Just go to Color Me Confetti

::

and you can print out all

::

those designs for your party.

::

You don't even have to leave the house.

::

You know what's funny to me?

::

Does Maggie know that we

::

talk about cocaine or

::

Vaseline and then pivot

::

right into comedy?

::

She has listened.

::

Okay, good.

::

There's no objections?

::

We can try to build in some buffer.

::

We also did not ask her at all.

::

Yeah, anyway,

::

get that finger out your butt.

::

Color me confetti.

::

Anyway, welcome to Color Me Confetti.

::

No, I can't remember what she phrased.

::

She was like, no,

::

this is what I expect from you three.

::

I think that's what she said at one point.

::

That's fair.

::

Thanks.

::

That's right.

::

Marcus, the real big Texas.

::

What do you got to plug this week?

::

Make sure you follow the mantra.

::

Never offended.

::

Always humble.

::

Go ahead.

::

Buy yourself some merch.

::

Go ahead.

::

Buy yourself some gear.

::

Hit the link in my bio and

::

all my socials at Marcus J. Destin.

::

Soul Tide's got new music on the way.

::

S-O-U-L-T-Y-E.

::

Link is coming out, I think, Wednesday.

::

Actually,

::

new Soul Tide music is coming out

::

Wednesday.

::

And then...

::

I got some new music on the way,

::

working on an album.

::

But whatever you do, follow the mantra,

::

never offend it, always humble.

::

The lead track is going to

::

be all about Big Texas.

::

Oh, yeah.

::

The whole album is named Lead Texas.

::

That's right.

::

Big Texas.

::

This week, I have to plug... Mother...

::

Brian,

::

my mom has this infatuation with you,

::

and I don't know what it is.

::

I want to read to you,

::

but put Mason's thing back on.

::

I'm going to tell you how it sounds.

::

I was just going to

::

highlight a bunch of them

::

as we were closing out.

::

She calls me, and she says, King Marcus,

::

tell Brian, say, hey, Brian.

::

That's exactly what she says.

::

Well, hello.

::

that's what I want you to

::

know maggie I love it

::

please just I took her note

::

every time so she had to

::

use mason to get through it

::

I love it thank you mason

::

yeah I appreciate you uh

::

this week I want to plug

::

this podcast look if you

::

enjoyed our conversation

::

about spider-man and

::

wolverine and deadpool and

::

sort of the potpourri

::

episode we had uh sign up

::

for one of our tiers over

::

at patreon.com slash films

::

of black and white

::

The best way, though,

::

to share us is by spreading

::

the word to a friend or a family member.

::

Tell us about the pod.

::

Spread the word that way.

::

We do have a fantastic bonus

::

episode right after this.

::

We're going to talk about the life aquatic,

::

which is going to be great.

::

But that's what we got.

::

Gentlemen,

::

we have a three-step process to success.

::

What is that first step, Brian?

::

Hey, folks,

::

I'm here to tell you to read a book.

::

And I'm also here to tell you,

::

you don't have an excuse

::

anymore because I figured

::

out how to check books out

::

through my phone.

::

And I'm saying it's so easy.

::

It's like you just you download Hoopla,

::

download the Hoopla app.

::

as it sounds and you put in

::

your library card if you're

::

like brian I don't have a

::

library card go go get one

::

there's free books for you

::

they free in the library

::

you they don't charge you

::

anything so you go do that

::

you get that you get your

::

library card number you put

::

it into hoopla the app the

::

phone that you have that

::

you watch the tick tock

::

videos on right and then

::

you can check out

::

anything you you can you can

::

go if we talked a lot about

::

comics if you're like wow I

::

don't even know who

::

cassandra nova is I

::

guarantee you there's a

::

library out there that will

::

lend you that comic on your

::

phone and then you can just

::

read those comics on your

::

phone are you mindlessly

::

scrolling tiktok or reddit

::

or I don't know maybe

::

you're a boomer and you're

::

on facebook right like

::

don't do that just look at

::

comics on your phone yeah

::

I took a shot at Facebook.

::

I feel attacked.

::

That's all I look at.

::

I thought we all

::

collectively abandoned it

::

for the most part.

::

I might have got that wrong.

::

I abandoned Twitter and TikTok.

::

But you kept Facebook.

::

You kept the boomer.

::

Anyway, download Hoopla.

::

Read books.

::

You just need a library card.

::

Read a book.

::

Yeah,

::

and my friends in my chat about

::

freedom are really starting

::

to make some convincing points.

::

Oh, wow.

::

It was a joke.

::

It was a joke.

::

It was a joke.

::

He's just three steps away

::

from joining a militia.

::

Guys,

::

I'm three steps away from being what

::

they call a title 63.

::

Oh, no.

::

Don't know what that means.

::

Oh, my God.

::

No, no, no, no.

::

Oh, my God.

::

I heard there's like a dragon involved.

::

I don't know.

::

There is.

::

I'm excited to slay it.

::

Marcus, what is that second step?

::

Just drink some water.

::

A lot of y'all,

::

I feel like you can just

::

drink some water.

::

Shut the fuck up.

::

Just drink water so you

::

can't say nothing else.

::

Just drink it so your mouth is just full.

::

Just drink some water.

::

Not you.

::

Hey, wash your ass, y'all.

::

It's really important.

::

Get the stink out.

::

Look, summertime is here.

::

You heard Will Smith and DJ

::

Jazzy Jeff say it at the

::

start of this pod.

::

Summertime is a coming,

::

and you want to make sure

::

you've got a clean ass as

::

you come into this season.

::

So get up in it, scrub it.

::

If you've got to take a two-shower day,

::

take a two-shower day.

::

There's no shame in it.

::

If you go work out in the morning, shower,

::

and then you mow the lawn later that day,

::

It's okay to shower again.

::

No one's going to judge you.

::

Leave that stank on there.

::

Your partner loves it.

::

No, they do not.

::

Hard pass.

::

Step four, according to Roman,

::

is take every chance you

::

get to earn money for charity.

::

We missed one.

::

We missed one.

::

Our chat folks and Roman

::

will not let us forget it.

::

That's a very good point.

::

Uh,

::

that does it for this week's episode of

::

films of black and white.

::

We'll be back next week with

::

another outstanding episode,

::

but in the meantime, in the between time,

::

stay safe, stay healthy.

::

We love y'all.

::

We appreciate y'all.

::

And we'll catch y'all next week.

::

Yeah.

::

the aspca that's what we

::

chose we chose that that's

::

the charity we chose roman

::

just didn't reveal it until

::

our outro surprise

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