Vic and Gill - Sober, Alcohol free stories and finding natural highs!

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Hi everybody.

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I'm Victoria.

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And I don't drink today.

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I'll be talking to jail.

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Jail happened upon a book.

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Book that changed her life.

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She then joined a Facebook

group and it starts to.

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Her journey to sobriety one day at a time.

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Jealous now a sobriety coach.

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vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: Hi Jill.

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squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

Hello,

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vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: Hello.

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Very warm welcome.

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Thank you for agreeing to

come onto my podcast today.

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squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

Pleasure.

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vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: actually

contacted you through a Facebook group.

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thank you for responding when

asked for you to come on.

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It's really important because, the more

stories that we can get out there, and

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they're all so different, might just be

something that someone needs to hear.

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I really appreciate you coming

on and sharing your story.

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So it's not always easiest thing to do.

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so with that, be interested to

just hear a little bit about you.

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what is your story?

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and then we'll go on and talk about

some of the challenges and some of

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the great tools that you've used.

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So let's hear a little bit about you.

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Yeah,

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squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

well, my story, I guess in my drinking

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story goes back to probably started

drinking my first drinks around 14, which

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is an age that you know at the moment.

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vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: I think I was

14 and I had my first little sniffs of

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wine and maybe some, Martini Bianco or

something, I think it was, down the park.

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squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

think mine was cider, but it

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was back in the 80s for me.

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I'm quite old now.

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So it was, back in the 80s and

life was very different then, you

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know, you didn't need to produce

ID pubs and clubs and things.

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so we would go out to pubs and

clubs at 14, you just had to put a

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pair of high heeled shoes on a bit

of lipstick and then you were in.

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vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: Yeah.

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squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

you know.

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partied quite hard, I guess,

really, from, from then.

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stumbled through my late

teenage years and twenties.

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Drink was always prevalent.

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And I enjoyed it.

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I've got to say I had fun, but

hangovers were never my friend, I'm

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quite legendary for the bad hangovers

that I had, and you would think,

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that would stop me, but it didn't.

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It wouldn't be unknown for me

to be in bed the following day

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after a session the night before.

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throwing up all day,

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vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: Yeah.

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squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

that, to be fair, never really left me.

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I went traveling in my 20s, and I moved

to Jersey for a few years, yeah, I

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mean, in my 20s, I enjoyed life as well.

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parties, drinking, everything

was always drink was involved.

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vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: Yeah.

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squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

pretty similar, like I say, moved,

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went travelling, moved to Jersey,

had the best time, really enjoyed

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my time, but was always there.

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I moved back home to the

UK, and I met my husband.

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he doesn't really drink.

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He's, can have a glass, he can

open a bottle of wine and it take

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him about three weeks to finish

it, which I've never understood.

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vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: Congratulations.

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squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

challenges for me being

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a step mom at times.

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And, so there was always seemed to be

a reason to have a drink because I was

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stressed or because I'd had a good day.

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It was, I was, there's probably a lot

of people, very similar stories to mine.

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you know, you celebrated,

commiserated everything with a drink.

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As you know, as our marriage, we've

been married 16 years now, and it

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just got habitual, you know, it

would be, I had couple of stressful

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jobs where, which I really struggled

with the pressure and the stress.

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So come Friday night, of course, I

was like, Oh my God, I need a drink.

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I need a drink.

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So I'd have a few drinks.

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bottle of wine maybe on Friday night then

in the morning on Saturday do chores and

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then sit down Saturday afternoon crack

open another one go into the evening open

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another one my husband wasn't drinking

it with me it was just me that went

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on for quite some time and that's it.

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I guess we then led up to, Lockdown

was a time to be somebody who

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likes a drink because there was

no need for that off button.

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A lot of the time, you know,

could start earlier because,

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well, what else were you doing?

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so the drinking went up again

and towards the end of lockdown,

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I knew I had a problem.

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I knew there was an issue and did

I was this serving me well, you

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know, I was completely knackered.

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I was completely frazzled,

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because I wasn't getting any decent sleep.

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It was that continual, when you're awake,

you're sort of half hung over and you're,

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you know, Life just feels a struggle

because you're not feeling at your best.

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I also, went into the perimenopause

and really quite struggled.

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towards the end of lockdown, I knew

I had to address this, and I didn't

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really know how, the best way to do it.

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I read a book and the

book really helped me.

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And in fact, I had read the

book a few times before,

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vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: Okay.

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squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

it stuck with me a little

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bit but I read it again.

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And I joined a Facebook group, which

is a Facebook group where you message

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vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: Yeah.

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squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

which was set up by Sober Dave.

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vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839:

it was set up by Sabre Dave.

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I didn't know that.

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squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

initially it was an original group,

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set up by sober Dave to, stop

nking for the month of May in: 2021

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vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: Aha.

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squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

I thought, oh, I'll give

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that a go see how I do.

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And I thought, I probably

won't do very well.

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I could always drop out.

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It didn't cost anything.

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I followed him on Instagram.

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it just came along at the right time and

clicked I haven't had a drink since then.

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vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: Wow.

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squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

I gave up the day before the 1st

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of May, so 30th of April, 2021,

and so grateful that I did it.

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And I also, I can't even

explain how much better is.

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vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: Yeah.

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squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

it was because some of the hungover

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feelings I had around this time.

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I mean, I had a lot in my

past actually were menopausal.

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issues and you know when you start looking

into that whole area, hangover, menopause,

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a lot of the symptoms are similar

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vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: Yes.

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squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

you've got a hangover with

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menopause you're getting the

double whammy and it hurts.

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vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: Yeah.

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squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

after I was then able address my menopause

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issues because it was quite clear what

they were and so life is just so much

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nicer, so much calmer, I mean, I still

have stress, don't get me wrong, but

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you can deal with it in a different way.

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You can see things better.

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You can see things clearly,

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vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: Yeah.

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squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

so much more present.

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and I look back on all my years.

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I've had, great friends and

everything in the past, but was I

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always really present with them?

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Probably not because we were

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vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: Yeah.

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squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

drinking, and you're all worried

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about where your next drink is

rather than your chat and your

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great time with your friends.

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And so in a way, yeah, I do regret

leaving it so long, but I'm so

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grateful that I actually saw the light

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vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: Yeah.

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squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

now I've been, however many years

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it is three and I've Bit three and

a half years ish, and I don't feel

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the need to count my days anymore

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vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: No.

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squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

I'm just fine about it,

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vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: Yeah.

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Yeah.

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squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

by people drinking around me go in

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the supermarket walk up and down I

can buy my husband a bottle of wine.

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I don't mind I'm at ease with it.

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vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: Yeah.

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squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

Never

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vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839:

Well, it's amazing, isn't it?

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You become so calm.

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it's so much easier to deal with things.

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And yeah, I completely recognize that.

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I feel like, I feel like somebody,

I don't meditate, but I feel like

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someone who meditates in comparison

to who I was before I stopped.

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I was always stressing and running around

like a bit of a headless chicken chasing

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my tail because everything was harder

because I was tired and hungover or,

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you know, I'd be planning a night out

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squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

I used to get out of bed in the

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morning and just think, Oh, I

can't wait to get back in here.

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that's how I was starting my day.

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And now I get out of bed quite easily.

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I don't even set an alarm anymore.

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I just get out of bed.

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and I'm fine.

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I mean, you know, There's times I

don't sleep that well, but it's,

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life things thrown in, there's so

much more calmness and it's like,

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I, I wish I could sell this reading.

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Yeah,

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vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: said that it

would be good if you could bottle it and

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sell that instead of booze, wouldn't it?

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squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839: I

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vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839:

What was the book you read?

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squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

it was Jason Vale,

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vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: Okay.

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Okay.

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squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

it was written in the same sort of style

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as, the Alan Carr giving up smoking books

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vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: Yes.

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squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

it's written in the same sort of style

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as that and I used the non smoking one

when I gave up smoking many years ago

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that approach just seems to work for me

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vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: Yeah,

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squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

it's sort of like, if you don't

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want to drink, Don't drink.

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vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: yeah,

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squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839: gets

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vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: I know

it sounds quite simple, but it's

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interesting because that's, that's sort

of what I say, whenever I meet people

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who are right at the beginning and

they're trying often that will happen.

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I'm part of a few different online

communities and one of them, um, we

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regularly have people joining a WhatsApp

group that we're all on and, um, And

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they'll sort of say, Oh, you know, how am

I gonna, how am I going to manage this?

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And I said that at the beginning,

and there was a lady on the group

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who just said to me, Because

you've said that you're not going

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to drink for a hundred days.

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So you're just not going to

drink for a hundred days.

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And it was almost like, this is not rocket

science and you've said you're going to

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do it and you're just going to do it.

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And it was quite, it was fun, but it

was like, Oh, and podcast the other day.

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Hello, Nick.

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She's probably listened to this now.

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and, it was almost that simple for me.

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I think sometimes other

people, it's very different.

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You get people who are on and off

and, but I was like, like you.

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So I stopped, in January, 2022.

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So I think I'm about six

months behind you probably.

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and like you just went not anymore.

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I'm just not doing it anymore because

it makes me feel terrible in every way.

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squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

I really didn't think I would last

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I had tried other times before

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vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: Yeah,

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squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

I tried to do dry January, and come

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the 7th of January, it's like, oh,

God, I really need to drink and

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vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: yeah,

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squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

couldn't do it this

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time around just worked.

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vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: yeah,

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squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

I think it's the mindset.

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vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: yeah,

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squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

somebody did say to me, God,

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you've got great willpower.

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And actually, I don't

have willpower at all.

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vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: no,

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squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

If I had to rely on willpower,

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I wouldn't be able to do it.

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vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: yeah, yeah,

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squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

it's a mindset.

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vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: yeah,

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squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

and my mindset, I got in the right

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mindset at the crucial time for me.

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vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: yeah,

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squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

it really worked

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vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: yeah,

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squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

I'm happy for myself.

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vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: yeah, yeah,

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squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

I've opened my life in that, I've

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done so many more things and embraced

so many more things, you know,

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thinks drinking is so sociable.

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I found I've been so much more

sociable since I've stopped.

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I'm having conversations with people

perhaps online, but they're quite

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in depth, or they're informative

and there's a lot of learning

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and it's really changed my life.

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vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: So what are

some of the things that you're doing

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now that you perhaps wouldn't have

done if you'd have carried on drinking?

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got new hobbies or a new job?

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squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

trained to do coaching.

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with a view to doing, coaching of any

type, but alcohol free coaching, because

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I just feel I want to help people

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vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: Yeah.

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squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

feel.

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and that's something I

would never have done.

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You know, it was learning for me.

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It was, I mean, I'd outlasted an

exam, God, 40 years ago, if not more.

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I wouldn't have done anything like that.

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But what I've got from

that myself is huge.

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vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: Yeah.

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squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

huge.

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doing this podcast, I just wouldn't have

contemplated doing anything like this,

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vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: Yeah.

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Oh, tell me about it.

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I mean, I set this thing up and I was

like, what am I actually doing here?

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but do you know what?

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I think you feel courageous.

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Don't you?

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You feel like You've conquered

something that lots of people

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don't even try to conquer.

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and I'm sure that you've had challenges.

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I'll ask you about those in a moment,

but we all have various challenges for

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me, things like Friday night, actually

five o'clock for me was a bit of a thing

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because that in my head prior was the

time you were allowed to Have a drink.

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So that was a bit of a barrier for me,

but if you can conquer that and still

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be very happy and sociable and probably,

and more so actually than you ever were,

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then I think, yeah, you just become, you

have this courage about you, don't you?

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And this kind of pride about what

you've done that catapults you to

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do other things, that's amazing

that you're doing sobriety coaching.

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squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839: Yes.

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vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: Yeah.

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squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

I love it because I just

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want people to feel this.

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vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: do you

have a company that you do that with?

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you can let everyone know if anyone's

listening, they can contact you.

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Yeah.

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squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

up my own side hustle, at the moment,

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It's called me and her coaching.

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And that's meant to be

like a meander, meander

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vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: I love that.

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squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

I'm on Instagram as me and

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her underscore coaching.

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And I've got a website, meandhercoaching.

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co.

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uk,

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vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: Okay, great.

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if anyone wants some sober

coaching, that's where you can go.

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You'll find Jill.

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squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

yes, I'll be

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vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: Yeah.

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Oh, that's great.

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squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

I'd never have done that, you know?

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and I've met, so many more people and

those people are dotted around the world.

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it's not just people, it's

people all over the place.

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vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: Yeah.

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You just meet some

wonderful people, don't you?

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Actually, this morning I went with a

dear friend of mine from Soberistas.

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We went on a spa morning, the two of us.

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And on the way to it, two of our

other friends, From that group,

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phoned me They were together.

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one of them had come, from Holland

to visit and, was visiting this

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other lady who lives in London.

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then me and this other one went

together and we've got a thing

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planned for next year where there's,

there's someone coming from LA.

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and it's just unbelievable.

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These people are wonderful and

I would never have met them.

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So, yeah, it's almost like.

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squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

Yeah.

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vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: start

drinking, I would say not, but yeah,

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there's things that have come out of it.

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It's quite good to see the positives,

isn't it, in, the whole thing.

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squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

Well, I,

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vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: long,

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squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

one of my things I used to like doing,

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was on a Saturday afternoon, I'd crack

open the wine put Place in the Sun on

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the telly and drink my wine, watching

this, dreaming of, living in the sun,

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because I'm not drinking now, we're not

going to the sun, but we are keeping

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everything crossed at the moment.

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We're in the throes of house selling

and buying a property in Cornwall.

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vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: oh wow,

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squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

I couldn't have done that if

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I was drinking, it wouldn't be

happening if I was drinking.

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And you know, sort of almost

my dream I was dreaming of

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vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: yes.

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squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

sort of coming true.

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vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: That's amazing.

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I'd love to live by the sea.

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There's something about the sea

that's a real draw for me as well.

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In fact, one of the ladies that I

interviewed the other day, she's in

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Cornwall and she set up a sober swim

school and they will swim in the sea.

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I think she goes three times a week.

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So I don't know how far that will be

from where you're planning on going.

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squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

exactly by the sea, but we won't

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be far, 20 minutes maximum,

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vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: Yeah.

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squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

yeah, but it wouldn't be happening.

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if I was drinking, because if one

thing, the expense of drinking is huge

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vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: Yeah.

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squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

to, the quantity

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vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: Yeah.

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squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839: was.

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vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: Yeah.

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And I mean, it's

expensive, but I saved up.

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I think it was after my 100 days.

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I saved up and got myself a diamond ring.

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But that's crazy.

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squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

Oh my God.

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vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: It's

like, well, that's going to be my

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little, I can look at that and think.

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squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839: I

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vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: this

is nicer than sitting on the

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sofa with a bottle of wine.

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Sort of almost a bit of a waste

of time, when you look back on it.

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it's hard to understand for me

now why that was such a draw for

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me, because it just isn't anymore.

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And, and then I, I could not contemplate

what it would be like not to.

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Because it was just what we did and

all of my friends did it as well.

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I don't think I was particularly unusual.

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I probably drank more than my friends.

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but I wasn't that unusual.

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You know, there's lots of people.

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squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

have drank similar, you know,

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perhaps not to the same extent as

me or perhaps the same extent as me.

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But, yeah, everybody I've friends

with, I think has always drank.

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vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: Yeah, Me too.

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And I'm like you in that it doesn't

bother me too much to spend time

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with people who are drinking.

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it's never been a problem for me.

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squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

until they start, if they go

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to that point where it's got a

bit far and the, you know, the,

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vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: yeah.

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squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

are getting a bit louder and the

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stories are getting a bit wilder

393

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vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: Yeah,

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squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

does come a point, and I'm done, but,

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vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: But you can just

get in your car and go then, can't you?

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That's the joy of being sober as well.

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the only time I really don't like it

is if you're one on one with someone

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squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839: hmm.

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: 00:18:33

vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: they've gone

past that point and then they just

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become a little bit repetitive you're

sitting there thinking you just said that

401

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squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

To be fair,

402

: 00:18:43

vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839:

just a minute ago

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squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

that very often, because don't

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really go out much anyway.

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I was always drinking at home.

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: 00:18:50

vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: yeah

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squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

our sort of married life,

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but I know what you mean.

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vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: yeah

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: 00:18:54

squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

Do you

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vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: Yeah.

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: 00:19:02

So you found some unexpected joys.

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What was your biggest

challenge with it then?

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Did you have any, or did

you find it relatively easy?

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squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

I, I honestly don't know that I had any

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major, this time round, any major I think

because I joined the group, it gave me

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a connection with like minded people.

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and there was an

accountability there as well.

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And I think that probably helped.

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With regard to struggles, oof,

can't, I really, this time round,

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I found it relatively easy.

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vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: Well

that's really good to hear.

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: 00:19:40

That's really great, isn't it?

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squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

yeah, I can't say that

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I had any big struggle.

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vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: And so the

connection must have been a massive

427

: 00:19:47

tool for you, without me realising,

428

: 00:19:49

squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

yeah, I

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: 00:19:50

vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839:

connection being there.

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: 00:19:52

Yeah, is there any other sort

of go to tools that you've used

431

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that have been helpful for you?

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Did you drink non alcoholic

drinks or do you yeah, okay.

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: 00:20:02

squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

I love, because sometimes you

434

: 00:20:03

want a grown up drink, you know,

435

: 00:20:06

vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: Yeah,

436

: 00:20:06

squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

even at home, you know,

437

: 00:20:08

vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: yeah Yeah, yeah,

438

: 00:20:13

squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839: I

like the non alcoholic lagers, various

439

: 00:20:16

different ones of those I haven't

really found a wine, that I've liked.

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fizzy wines tend to be better.

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: 00:20:23

In the non alcoholic

range than the still ones.

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I think there's still a bit

of work needed on those.

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: 00:20:29

and then there's the gin one.

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I never drank gin.

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I've never liked it.

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: 00:20:34

But as a non alcoholic version, I

quite like, because there's a lot

447

: 00:20:39

of nice taste, and you know, you can

put nice mixes in or whatever, and

448

: 00:20:43

there's quite a lot of taste in there.

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So I quite like that sort of drink as well

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: 00:20:48

vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: I used

to drink a lot more alcohol free

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drinks than I do now obviously I

drink alcohol free drinks, but I

452

: 00:20:53

mean, you know, uh, imitation drinks.

453

: 00:20:56

When I first stopped, I

used to drink Naughty.

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: 00:20:59

Have you heard of that?

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: 00:21:00

squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839: Busy

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: 00:21:01

vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839:

yes, the fizzy one.

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Because it was quite dry.

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: 00:21:05

squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

Yeah.

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: 00:21:05

vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: Yeah.

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: 00:21:06

And I liked that because I

liked a glass of dry rosé.

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So for me, I needed something

that was kind of tart and dry.

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: 00:21:14

And so that worked quite

well for me in the beginning.

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And, also alcohol free beers,

because I wasn't a beer drinker.

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: 00:21:20

So it didn't really matter to me if

they tasted like beer or not, but I just

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quite liked that they were a version of.

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And like you, the gin as well.

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: 00:21:29

I just the other day bought

something is it mother root?

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: 00:21:34

I can't remember what it's called it's

like a ginger and cider vinegar tonic

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: 00:21:37

squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

okay.

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: 00:21:37

vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: thing

which sounds really weird,

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but it's actually really nice.

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: 00:21:41

You have it with soda

water in it um, facebook

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: 00:21:45

yeah, so that was amazing.

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: 00:21:46

I was like, oh, she used to work for

a drinks company and apparently there

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: 00:21:49

wasn't, there wasn't that many options.

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: 00:21:51

So she set up this company.

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: 00:21:52

Gosh, I should really get

the name right for that.

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: 00:21:54

Anyway, I think it's Mother Root

or something, but it's a ginger

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: 00:21:57

and cider vinegar type, which

sounds odd, but it's very nice.

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: 00:22:01

squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

one of the nicest, fizzy ones

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that I had was Kylie Minogue,

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: 00:22:06

vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: Okay.

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: 00:22:07

squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

fizz, there is a non alcoholic version.

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: 00:22:11

vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: Right.

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: 00:22:11

squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

nice.

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: 00:22:12

I bought that in B& M.

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: 00:22:14

vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: Okay.

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: 00:22:15

squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

it was

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: 00:22:16

vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839:

that's good to know.

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: 00:22:17

squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

Yeah,

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: 00:22:18

vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: lots more

out there than there used to be.

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: 00:22:19

when I was talking to William Porter

yesterday, he was talking about Club Soda.

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: 00:22:23

Have you ever been there in London?

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: 00:22:25

squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

haven't been there, but

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: 00:22:25

I've heard of it, yeah.

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: 00:22:26

vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: Yeah,

I'm planning on going there.

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: 00:22:28

I think I'm going to go there for

Christmas drinks this year because I

498

: 00:22:30

want to see this cocktail making stuff.

499

: 00:22:32

That sounds good.

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: 00:22:33

Mocktails making stuff rather.

501

: 00:22:35

So that sounds good.

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: 00:22:37

So do you still now then do you need,

do you listen to any podcasts or is

503

: 00:22:42

there anything that you would recommend

to anyone else that you listen to or

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: 00:22:45

that you've read that might be helpful

for anyone who's listening who doesn't

505

: 00:22:50

know much about what's out there?

506

: 00:22:51

Yeah.

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: 00:22:52

squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

I think there's quite a

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: 00:22:52

variety of things these days.

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: 00:22:54

the Jason Bales book, I

thought was brilliant.

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: 00:22:58

I would recommend that to everybody.

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: 00:23:00

because that is a bit of a mindset book.

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: 00:23:04

I do listen to podcasts of all sorts.

513

: 00:23:08

Any that come out, to be honest.

514

: 00:23:10

I'm quite new to people

like over the influence.

515

: 00:23:13

I've just started listening to a couple

of their podcasts, when you start looking,

516

: 00:23:17

there's actually quite a few different

517

: 00:23:20

vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: There's lots.

518

: 00:23:20

squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

out there and some new ones coming along.

519

: 00:23:22

vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: yeah.

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: 00:23:23

Yeah.

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: 00:23:27

squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

so so, but Dave has his podcast,

522

: 00:23:31

vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: Yeah.

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: 00:23:32

squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

you know,

524

: 00:23:32

vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839:

He's great, isn't he?

525

: 00:23:34

Yeah.

526

: 00:23:34

squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

there's so many out there, that

527

: 00:23:37

don't need, you don't need spend

hours looking or searching.

528

: 00:23:45

Yeah, I'd listen to I mean,

the coach training that I

529

: 00:23:48

did was through Andy Rammage

530

: 00:23:51

vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: Okay.

531

: 00:23:52

squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839: he's

amazing with his alcohol free, messages.

532

: 00:23:56

I would

533

: 00:23:57

vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: Yeah.

534

: 00:23:58

squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

following him on Instagram

535

: 00:23:59

vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: On Instagram.

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: 00:24:00

Andy Rammage.

537

: 00:24:01

I'll check.

538

: 00:24:01

But yeah, that sounds good.

539

: 00:24:03

squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

he's,

540

: 00:24:03

vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839:

I'm waiting that down.

541

: 00:24:05

squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

yeah, it was his training, coach

542

: 00:24:07

training that I did as well.

543

: 00:24:08

I saw that because I followed him

as an alcohol free, ambassador,

544

: 00:24:14

vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: Yeah.

545

: 00:24:14

squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839: he's

so positive you just get his energy and

546

: 00:24:19

vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: Yeah.

547

: 00:24:20

squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

it when he talks.

548

: 00:24:21

and so there's so many out there.

549

: 00:24:25

vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: Yeah.

550

: 00:24:25

squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

sober everything these days.

551

: 00:24:28

vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839:

It's great, isn't it?

552

: 00:24:29

squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

Yeah.

553

: 00:24:30

vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: It is good

that there's so much that you can access.

554

: 00:24:33

the lady who set up Sober

Easter, she's called Lucy Rocker.

555

: 00:24:36

She also, wrote a book, Sober

Revolution, which is really good.

556

: 00:24:40

one of the reasons she set that

up about 10 years ago is that

557

: 00:24:42

there wasn't really anything.

558

: 00:24:43

So it seems, from reading her book

and seeing what she's done It makes me

559

: 00:24:47

realize how much the world has changed.

560

: 00:24:49

So maybe that's why for me, it was, I

mean, it wasn't easy, but it, it was

561

: 00:24:54

possibly easier than it would have been

years ago because I had access to so

562

: 00:24:59

much stuff that normalized it for me

to be sober because we live in a world

563

: 00:25:03

where it's not really normal, isn't it?

564

: 00:25:06

So it's good to have this

whole community where it

565

: 00:25:10

squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839: It's

566

: 00:25:10

vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: normal.

567

: 00:25:12

squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

Yeah, it's definitely growing.

568

: 00:25:14

and I think when you start embracing

the whole thing and you start seeing

569

: 00:25:19

people, you do see people's energy

570

: 00:25:22

vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: yeah,

571

: 00:25:23

squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

see that

572

: 00:25:26

on all of the, alcohol free pages

I follow on Instagram or wherever.

573

: 00:25:32

don't think I've seen

hardly anything negative.

574

: 00:25:35

Everything's positive.

575

: 00:25:36

And, It's such a lovely

thing to see really,

576

: 00:25:41

vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: yeah,

577

: 00:25:41

squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

people wanting to help each other

578

: 00:25:43

vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: yeah.

579

: 00:25:44

squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

everything's positive

580

: 00:25:46

vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: it's mad

how many people when they've reached

581

: 00:25:49

a stable point in their society,

want to do something to help.

582

: 00:25:52

I mean, all the people that

I've spoken to, so yourself,

583

: 00:25:56

you're obviously a sober coach.

584

: 00:25:57

I've had Tiff, who's doing her,

she does the Sober Swim School.

585

: 00:26:01

Obviously, William was

talking about, his books.

586

: 00:26:03

Clearly, that's a big give back to.

587

: 00:26:05

society.

588

: 00:26:06

I spoke to Mikey the other day who

was talking about his Facebook page

589

: 00:26:10

and he just reached 5, 000 followers.

590

: 00:26:12

that's, incredible 5, 000

people that he's supporting.

591

: 00:26:16

there seems to be a thread where

you want to give something back.

592

: 00:26:21

squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

yeah,

593

: 00:26:22

vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839:

positive place to be, isn't it?

594

: 00:26:24

And that bottling it you

talked about, because you just

595

: 00:26:28

want to tell people, try it.

596

: 00:26:30

a lot of people don't want to try

it and I wouldn't push it on anyone.

597

: 00:26:32

But if you think you're struggling, if

you think something's not quite right,

598

: 00:26:36

if you've Googled, do I drink too much?

599

: 00:26:39

I'd say,

600

: 00:26:40

squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839: you

601

: 00:26:40

vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: probably do.

602

: 00:26:42

squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

Yeah,

603

: 00:26:42

vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: Yeah.

604

: 00:26:43

squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

exactly.

605

: 00:26:43

and that's where I started.

606

: 00:26:45

vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: Yeah,

607

: 00:26:46

squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

is this a problem or not?

608

: 00:26:48

vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: yeah,

609

: 00:26:48

squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

yeah, by virtue of asking

610

: 00:26:50

the question, it's a problem.

611

: 00:26:52

vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: Oh, it's

been so lovely to talk to you.

612

: 00:26:55

what would be your top thing

that you would say to somebody

613

: 00:26:57

if they were thinking about it?

614

: 00:26:59

What's the best thing about it?

615

: 00:27:00

Being sober.

616

: 00:27:00

squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

the energy, and clarity in life.

617

: 00:27:06

vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: Yeah,

618

: 00:27:06

squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

still has struggles, you know,

619

: 00:27:09

the ability to be able to deal

with those struggles is just.

620

: 00:27:14

It's so much better.

621

: 00:27:17

vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: yeah, I

would 100 percent agree with that.

622

: 00:27:19

it's much easier to deal

with the downs, isn't it?

623

: 00:27:22

and it's a fallacy that you won't

have highs because you just will.

624

: 00:27:25

I mean, I've never been,

it's, you know, it's,

625

: 00:27:29

squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

natural, that's the thing.

626

: 00:27:30

They're natural highs.

627

: 00:27:32

And the lows, I mean, there are lows

that people get, but if you're talking

628

: 00:27:39

from a drinking point of view, the lows,

you don't have them, as a sober person,

629

: 00:27:46

vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: No,

630

: 00:27:47

squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839: way.

631

: 00:27:48

vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: no, because

your dopamine is working properly

632

: 00:27:50

and you're able to bounce back.

633

: 00:27:52

I think resilience is a big thing that you

see in people who have stopped drinking.

634

: 00:27:56

my boundaries are much stronger now,

and I don't question everything anymore.

635

: 00:28:02

I'm confident that even if what I'm

seeing is a load of rubbish, it's my

636

: 00:28:06

load of rubbish, and I haven't just said

it because I've drunk four glasses of.

637

: 00:28:09

Exactly.

638

: 00:28:12

squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

yeah.

639

: 00:28:13

vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839:

It's a nice place

640

: 00:28:13

squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

one other aspect that I think gets

641

: 00:28:15

slightly overlooked is that your whole

body gives you signals about things

642

: 00:28:21

when you're drinking all the time,

those signals, if there's something

643

: 00:28:26

amiss, can be ignored or not seen.

644

: 00:28:29

They're not seen.

645

: 00:28:31

I know from my point of view,

mine was menopause things.

646

: 00:28:34

I started having really bad headaches

and that was after I'd stopped

647

: 00:28:38

drinking I was having really bad

headaches when I was drinking.

648

: 00:28:42

And they were hangovers.

649

: 00:28:44

vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: You

thought it was a hangover.

650

: 00:28:45

squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

weren't, they were, well, some

651

: 00:28:48

of them were, for sure they were.

652

: 00:28:50

But you know, it was clouding.

653

: 00:28:51

issue with my headaches.

654

: 00:28:53

vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: Yeah.

655

: 00:28:54

squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

I was having some hormonal

656

: 00:28:55

headache things, but

657

: 00:28:57

vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: Yeah.

658

: 00:28:58

squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

your body's giving you signals.

659

: 00:29:00

And if it's covered with alcohol,

those signals can't get through.

660

: 00:29:05

vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: Yeah.

661

: 00:29:06

You can't read them.

662

: 00:29:06

You don't know they're there.

663

: 00:29:08

Yeah.

664

: 00:29:09

Gosh.

665

: 00:29:11

Well, well done you.

666

: 00:29:12

You're three and a half years

in and it's, you're honestly,

667

: 00:29:15

thank you so much for, yeah.

668

: 00:29:18

It's brilliant and you

should be celebrating it.

669

: 00:29:20

It's lovely.

670

: 00:29:21

I mean, I'm so ridiculously proud of being

sober now, I would wear t shirts that

671

: 00:29:25

say it everywhere and shout about it,

672

: 00:29:27

squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

I've got a sweatshirt says it.

673

: 00:29:30

vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: Have you?

674

: 00:29:30

Well, do you know what?

675

: 00:29:31

when I named this podcast,

676

: 00:29:32

squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

Yeah.

677

: 00:29:33

vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: Sober

Alcohol Free Stories, it was the

678

: 00:29:35

cheeky part in me, so that it

could be shortened to Sober AF.

679

: 00:29:39

squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839: Yes.

680

: 00:29:40

vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839:

I want that on a t shirt.

681

: 00:29:42

squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

definitely.

682

: 00:29:43

vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: so yeah, I did

find a t shirt online that said that, so

683

: 00:29:46

maybe I should wear it when I'm recording.

684

: 00:29:47

If we ever do decide to use

cameras, maybe I'll wear that.

685

: 00:29:52

Oh dear, well thank you so much Jill, it's

just been an absolute pleasure and I'm

686

: 00:29:58

sure your story is going to be familiar

to someone out there and hopefully

687

: 00:30:02

they'll think, well I can do it because

you've done it and it's obviously served

688

: 00:30:06

you really well, so congratulations.

689

: 00:30:08

squadcaster-7h0h_1_10-18-2024_172839:

thank you.

690

: 00:30:09

It's been great.

691

: 00:30:10

I've enjoyed our chat.

692

: 00:30:11

It's been

693

: 00:30:12

vic-_1_10-18-2024_172839: Yeah, me too.

694

: 00:30:14

See you later.

695

: 00:30:14

Bye.

696

: 00:30:17

squadcaster-bg06_9_09-21-2024_084137:

Thank you for listening to our

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