Financially worse than death, disability scenarios need your proper attention.
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Joseph Okaly:Hello, and welcome to the EnjoyMore30s Family
Joseph Okaly:Finance podcast. We're on our sixth episode today in this
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Joseph Okaly:Today we're discussing if you can believe it or not what is
Joseph Okaly:actually worse than death financially. And it's the
Joseph Okaly:insurable scenario, that's actually more likely to happen.
Joseph Okaly:And that's disability. Although it's really important, it tends
Joseph Okaly:not to be one that most people have heard about as much when
Joseph Okaly:you compare it to life insurance, or tend to focus on
Joseph Okaly:the most. So today we're going to discuss what you need to know
Joseph Okaly:about disability and the scenarios it covers as well as
Joseph Okaly:what you can do to make sure you have the proper amount of
Joseph Okaly:coverage. Now, I don't know about anybody else out there,
Joseph Okaly:but I am a big fan of the Muppets. Growing up I loved
Joseph Okaly:Sesame Street and still to this day, my favorite Christmas movie
Joseph Okaly:of all time is the 1987 made for TV, a Muppets Family Christmas.
Joseph Okaly:So my kids watch it now. It's it's still fantastic. So
Joseph Okaly:timeless. Now if you have any kids in the area that can hear
Joseph Okaly:please pause this. Make sure they're not in the room so I can
Joseph Okaly:avoid scaring them and scarring them for life. All right,
Joseph Okaly:everybody ready? Okay. The Muppets aren't real. They're not
Joseph Okaly:they're puppets. I know. It's really surprising. If you have
Joseph Okaly:never googled Muppets puppeteers, please make sure
Joseph Okaly:that is the the next thing you do. You're going to see all of
Joseph Okaly:these adults with their hands up the puppets holding sticks to
Joseph Okaly:move their arms, contraptions around their head to aid in
Joseph Okaly:movements, looking down to both see a screen on what's being
Joseph Okaly:seen and keep their heads out of the shots. So they don't ruin
Joseph Okaly:it. It's it's really mind blowingly remarkable. If someone
Joseph Okaly:said to me, like, "Oh, we can just do it like this", I'd be
Joseph Okaly:like, 'You're crazy, that will never work'. It's especially
Joseph Okaly:cool if you find a big scene with like 20 muppets in the shot
Joseph Okaly:and you see like 50 adults on the stage, twisting their bodies
Joseph Okaly:all around to move the muppets and stay out of the picture so
Joseph Okaly:they really must have a chiropractor on staff I think
Joseph Okaly:for that kind of work. What you need to know that may be equally
Joseph Okaly:shocking, is that you are actually four times as likely to
Joseph Okaly:be disabled, as you are to die as a 30 year old. It's very
Joseph Okaly:significantly more likely, yet life insurance is the thing
Joseph Okaly:everyone immediately recommends when you have kids, which you
Joseph Okaly:should have but it's probably not the only thing you should
Joseph Okaly:have. As we covered in 1.3 the first series Survivors Don't
Joseph Okaly:Care About Too Much Life Insurance, your biggest asset as
Joseph Okaly:a young person is your future income potential. $100,000
Joseph Okaly:salary for the next 30 years say is $3 million, ignoring any
Joseph Okaly:raises or anything else. So it's really your biggest asset. And
Joseph Okaly:life insurance/disability insurance, they both go towards
Joseph Okaly:protecting that biggest asset. And when we look at the
Joseph Okaly:likelihood of death due to such things, as you know,
Joseph Okaly:hypertension, kind of like high blood pressure, or heart
Joseph Okaly:disease, when it comes to life insurance, those risks have
Joseph Okaly:actually gone down, as medical treatments have advanced with
Joseph Okaly:the likelihood of you actually dying from them. However, on the
Joseph Okaly:flip side, the likelihood of disability or being disabled by
Joseph Okaly:them has gone up by roughly the same amount in many cases. So
Joseph Okaly:what used to kill us doesn't kill us anymore, it just makes
Joseph Okaly:us disabled. So that's great. What makes disability
Joseph Okaly:financially worse than death is that if you can't work, you have
Joseph Okaly:no income. So the same as death but you still need to now eat,
Joseph Okaly:you still need to go to the doctor probably even more often
Joseph Okaly:and you know, just overall do all that living stuff. So you're
Joseph Okaly:you're here with no income, but you still need money to do all
Joseph Okaly:the things that you need to do. You may need even additional
Joseph Okaly:care on top of this, maybe your spouse has to work more. So it
Joseph Okaly:really covers a whole range of things. In death, there are no
Joseph Okaly:medical expenses, or you know, you know, having to eat and
Joseph Okaly:stuff like that. So Long Term Disability Insurance
Joseph Okaly:specifically, can easily be financially worse than death.
Joseph Okaly:And it doesn't necessarily have to be breaking your neck. You
Joseph Okaly:know for some people with specialties, let's say you're a
Joseph Okaly:surgeon, if you lost a few fingers, all that schooling may
Joseph Okaly:have been for nothing as your income ability may never
Joseph Okaly:recover. Now, you may be saying, you know, "Well, Joe, won't the
Joseph Okaly:government protect me if something happens?" Any short
Joseph Okaly:term disability you may receive would be on the state level. So
Joseph Okaly:like looking at New Jersey, where I'm in, you receive up to
Joseph Okaly:six months of disability protection for income. However,
Joseph Okaly:it's not for your whole salary, they don't say, 'Oh, you're
Joseph Okaly:making $200,000? Let me give you all of that back over the next
Joseph Okaly:six months.' There are limits to what you could receive. So it's
Joseph Okaly:going to very likely be less than what you need to live on.
Joseph Okaly:But it's still something. Long term, though there's social
Joseph Okaly:security disability and that's really the only government based
Joseph Okaly:option. But qualifying is really, really difficult. And
Joseph Okaly:they're going to come back to regularly to check on if you
Joseph Okaly:really still can't do any work of any kind. So it's not 'Can
Joseph Okaly:you not do your job', it's 'Can you not work at all.' So again,
Joseph Okaly:with the surgeon example, losing a few fingers may mean he can't
Joseph Okaly:do his job but that doesn't mean he's going to get social
Joseph Okaly:security disability. And on top of that, it's definitely not
Joseph Okaly:going to be as much as he was making. What you can do though,
Joseph Okaly:is make sure you understand what you are covered for and what you
Joseph Okaly:aren't, and make sure you have that required protection in
Joseph Okaly:place in case. So most employers have some level of coverage for
Joseph Okaly:disability, or at least offer it as an option. Having at least
Joseph Okaly:say 60% of your salary protected is a good place to start. That's
Joseph Okaly:kind of a baseline. The one problem with relying on employer
Joseph Okaly:insurance is, really of any kind, is that it's an employer
Joseph Okaly:benefit. They are only as good as long as you work there. If
Joseph Okaly:you were to change jobs, lose your job, your health might
Joseph Okaly:change, you may not qualify anymore, you may find yourself
Joseph Okaly:without any protection. Ideally, that's why we say if you can
Joseph Okaly:afford to do so having your coverages outside of work, so
Joseph Okaly:life insurance, and disability, long term disability,
Joseph Okaly:specifically, I should say, where you can control them
Joseph Okaly:always is the best. Now when obtaining a disability policy,
Joseph Okaly:and we're focusing our long term disability, the main three
Joseph Okaly:elements to look at after, you know, obviously, what the
Joseph Okaly:monthly benefit is, what you would receive is the definition
Joseph Okaly:that they're using a disability, the length of the coverage and
Joseph Okaly:the elimination period. So you know, yes, you want to make sure
Joseph Okaly:the benefit will replace at least 60% of your income. But
Joseph Okaly:then you also want to make sure it will cover your own
Joseph Okaly:occupation. Again, with the surgeon, you want a policy to
Joseph Okaly:kick in if they couldn't be a surgeon, not if they couldn't
Joseph Okaly:work at all. Length of coverage is how long it will last for and
Joseph Okaly:usually that defaults to age 65. Now this is important, because
Joseph Okaly:really what we're trying to protect against is long term
Joseph Okaly:disability, because that's the catastrophic scenario, that is
Joseph Okaly:what can completely blow up your finances, especially as a young
Joseph Okaly:family. You got disabled tomorrow, you don't want a five
Joseph Okaly:year policy to take you from 30 to 35, you want to cover the
Joseph Okaly:next 65, you know, all the way up to age 65, the next 35 years
Joseph Okaly:when you would be kind of retiring anyway. Remember that
Joseph Okaly:$3 million of future income example from earlier. Last is
Joseph Okaly:the elimination period for how long you have to wait for the
Joseph Okaly:benefit to start, which is normally defaulted to 90 days.
Joseph Okaly:The longer you wait to start the benefit, the cheaper the policy.
Joseph Okaly:So extending this piece of it is really the easiest way to make
Joseph Okaly:the policy more affordable as a long term disability is really
Joseph Okaly:that catastrophic scenario. So protecting at the right amount
Joseph Okaly:for the right occupation all the way to age 65 takes top
Joseph Okaly:priority. Even if you know made the elimination period six
Joseph Okaly:months or a year, you could probably get by for that if you
Joseph Okaly:had to, but not from now to age 65. So at 30, you could probably
Joseph Okaly:survive to 31, it'd be tough, but you're definitely not going
Joseph Okaly:to survive to 65. So if you have to make that elimination period
Joseph Okaly:longer just to make it affordable enough to have that
Joseph Okaly:long term coverage, then that's generally what is recommended.
Joseph Okaly:So the quick recap for today is first realize how disability may
Joseph Okaly:be much more statistically likely than you realize. And you
Joseph Okaly:really need to protect for that scenario. Two is that your
Joseph Okaly:employer may provide or offer options to obtain this coverage
Joseph Okaly:but obtaining a policy outside of work can provide that full
Joseph Okaly:control if you so choose. Next, check what your state may
Joseph Okaly:provide but do so with understanding there really is
Joseph Okaly:not going to be an easy or likely, you know income
Joseph Okaly:comparable disability coverage at the federal level that you're
Joseph Okaly:going to be able to rely on. Lastly, in obtaining a policy,
Joseph Okaly:make sure the coverage amount is correct, your own occupation is
Joseph Okaly:covered, the coverage period extends long term and the
Joseph Okaly:elimination period or how long you have to wait makes sense for
Joseph Okaly:what you're trying to do.
Joseph Okaly:So thanks very much for tuning in today. As always, if you are
Joseph Okaly:able to implement what we're covering, that is fantastic as
Joseph Okaly:always. You have less to worry about then before. You can focus
Joseph Okaly:more on enjoying life, really the whole reason you're
Joseph Okaly:listening I would assume today. So if you are wanting help with
Joseph Okaly:these things though or you have questions you need help in
Joseph Okaly:clarifying, check out that Ask Joe section on the show's
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Joseph Okaly:The next episode is Don't Worry, We Are All Emotional Investors,
Joseph Okaly:where we're going to discuss why emotions tend to play such a big
Joseph Okaly:and unwelcomed part in investing and what you can do to try and
Joseph Okaly:not let that work to your detriment. So until next week,
Joseph Okaly:thanks for joining me today and I look forward to connecting
Joseph Okaly:with you again soon.
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