Author, speaker, entrepreneur, and veteran basketball performance coach Alan Stein Jr. explains the 4 levels of the competitive pyramid, nature vs. nurture on the court and in the boardroom, talent vs. skills, filling the "execution gap", always keeping the spotlight of accountability on yourself, and why it’s what you do in the "unseen hours" that counts the most.
Peak Performance, ultra performer, who we're talking to
Host:today is Alan Stein, he's been the director of performance for
Host:pure sweat basketball, working with elite high school, college,
Host:and NBA players doing things for like the Nike skills Academy,
Host:the McDonald's all American game, the Jordan Brand classic,
Host:you know, the NBA Players Association, top 100 Yeah,
Host:that's what pure sweat does. And Allen does a lot of the
Host:performance work, which we're going to talk about, he has
Host:since moved into sort of the speaking world and, and doing
Host:training and so forth. So we wanted to talk about the high
Host:performer, you know, the habits of high performers. So Alan,
Host:welcome to the show.
Host:Alan Stein Jr: Hey, thanks so much for having me, I'm looking
Host:forward to a fun conversation.
Host:So when you think about preparing somebody, you know, to
Host:compete in the NBA, I know one of the things that you talk
Host:about is this sort of like pyramid concept.
Host:Alan Stein Jr: Absolutely. I mean, for the for the players on
Host:court, in order for a player to be the best player that they're
Host:capable of, we look at four different components. The bottom
Host:of the pyramid, the base, the foundation for the whole thing
Host:happens to be my area of expertise, which is their body,
Host:and improving their athleticism, improving their ability to move
Host:efficiently on the court, and to remain as injury free as
Host:possible, then we go one level up skill acquisition, you know,
Host:doesn't matter how athletic a player is, if they can't shoot,
Host:pass, rebound, defend or handle the ball, then it really doesn't
Host:matter. Then we go at one more level, and we start talking
Host:about the mind, which is two separate areas, we want to look
Host:at one, we want to make sure a player has the mental toughness
Host:and fortitude to compete every day. But we also want to make
Host:sure they have a very high basketball IQ, that they know
Host:how and when to use their skills and their athleticism to be as
Host:effective as possible. And then the apex of the pyramid is their
Host:heart. That's their grit, their passion, you know, their motor,
Host:if you will. And and we found that when you can improve a
Host:player in those four distinct areas, almost like you're
Host:putting together a jigsaw puzzle, you'll create the best
Host:basketball player that they're capable of becoming.
Host:So do you start at the bottom and sort of work your way
Host:up?
Host:Alan Stein Jr: It is rather sequential. Now, when we say
Host:working on their strength and conditioning in their body, when
Host:most people hear strength and conditioning, they usually
Host:envision a player, you know, doing a bench press or have a
Host:barbell on their back and doing squats. That's not necessarily
Host:what we're talking about, we're talking about improving their
Host:coordination, and their balance, their motor control their
Host:proprioception, just getting them in touch with their body.
Host:And we do that with very young players. I mean, I'll do events
Host:that have kids that are seven or eight years old, where we're
Host:teaching them movement patterns, you know, do they have rhythm
Host:and coordination in their feet working on their footwork, so
Host:really just teaching them how to control their body. Because as
Host:you can imagine, if a player can't control their body, if
Host:they can't start and stop and jump, and land and move forwards
Host:and backwards, they're gonna have a lot of difficulty doing
Host:fine motor skills, like shooting and passing and ball handling.
Host:So yes, we address the body first. And then we level up and
Host:we start teaching them the skills of the game. And that
Host:will be rudimentary skills. You know, here's how you make a
Host:bounce fast. Here's how you dribble between your legs. Then
Host:the next layer is the IQ portion, which is the teach
Host:them. So it's one thing to know how to make a bounce pass, it's
Host:another to know when to make abouts pass. So how do they
Host:apply their skills and their athleticism. And then in all
Host:honesty, and in full humility and transparency, the top the
Host:apex in the heart, that's the one I believe that we as coaches
Host:have the least impact on that needs to come from the players.
Host:Now we can motivate, we can inspire, we can model the fact
Host:that we love what we do, and we're passionate about coaching.
Host:But at the end of the day, a player has to want to be the
Host:best player that they're capable of. So when we get all the way
Host:to the top, that's almost when we pass the baton to the player
Host:and say, Okay, now how bad do you want it? We've given you the
Host:raw materials and the tools to be as good as you can be. Now
Host:you need to actualize it.
Host:So do you think that the you know, I mean, I think that
Host:gets to the question, which is irrelevant. Obviously, most of
Host:us listening here, we're not going to probably make us make a
Host:run at playing in the NBA. But that gets at the question of do
Host:you think Ultra performers are made or are they born? What's
Host:your take on that?
Host:Alan Stein Jr: And in that in the world of athleticism, you
Host:certainly have to be born with certain genetic predispositions
Host:that would give you the potential to compete at that
Host:level. And here's what I tell you On players all the time when
Host:I say with with a friendly smile, if I'm talking to a group
Host:of young players, I'll say, every single one of you has the
Host:potential to make it to the NBA. However, less than half of a
Host:percent of you have the potential to make it as a
Host:player. And the point being that, you know, most players
Host:that are using sports as a vehicle to learn life lessons, I
Host:mean, they can still make it to the NBA, but they'd have to make
Host:it as a coach, or a referee, or heck, maybe even as an owner or
Host:a general manager. So if their goal is to make their living in
Host:the game of basketball, and be in the NBA, I want them to go
Host:after that with everything that they have. But the reality for
Host:most normal human beings is they weren't born with the athletic
Host:tools to play in the NBA. And I don't ever say that to
Host:discourage or diminish a player, I want them to go after that. I
Host:mean, when I was eight, I thought I was going to play in
Host:the NBA and I went after it with everything I could. And it just
Host:wasn't in the cards but so I don't want players to be
Host:discouraged from going from their for their goal. But you
Host:have to realize that a guy like LeBron James, or Kevin Durant,
Host:those guys were born with certain tools that most people
Host:weren't born with. However, and this is a big however, that is
Host:not to take away from the work ethic and the habits and grit.
Host:The players like LeBron and KD have, just because they were
Host:born with some physical tools doesn't automatically give them
Host:the golden ticket to the NBA. You know, Kevin Durant's, not
Host:the only 610 guy walking around, there's plenty of them who
Host:didn't actualize their potential, who didn't create
Host:habits, who didn't do the things that they needed to do. So a guy
Host:like LeBron, or KD was born with the raw materials to make it to
Host:that level. And yet they've worked incredibly hard,
Host:incredibly smart, and with tremendous consistency in order
Host:to make that happen. But Spud Webb and Mugsy Bogues, and Earl
Host:Boykins. And some of the other players that were on the shorter
Host:side, certainly had so many other physical tools to allow
Host:them to be able to play at that level, you know, even a ticket
Host:player like Stephen Curry. I mean, he's one of the top
Host:players in the game, arguably the best hitter in the game. And
Host:when you just look at him just standing there, he looks like a
Host:normal guy. He has a normal frame. I mean, he's a little bit
Host:taller than the average male but you know, he, you know, he
Host:doesn't pass the eye test the way that a LeBron James does.
Host:However, when you really look at athleticism, I mean, Stefan
Host:Curry was born with some some pretty good genetic hookups, I
Host:mean, his hand eye coordination, his balance, we can't just look
Host:at height, and one's ability to jump or run as the only
Host:barometers of athletic success. I mean, the these guys can do so
Host:many other things. Steve Nash is another one. Steve Nash is one
Host:of my all time favorite players, and most novice fans would not
Host:consider him a great athlete, because he wasn't a high flyer
Host:or a dunker. Well, if you take all of the other areas of
Host:athleticism, his mobility, his reaction, his hand eye
Host:coordination, his conditioning level, I mean, Steve Nash would
Host:right off of the charts in those other areas. So even though
Host:Steve Nash may look like a normal guy, and he's not winning
Host:dunk contests, he's in the upper, you know, point oh, one
Host:percentile of the human population when it comes to
Host:athleticism. And certainly not every player that's currently on
Host:an NBA roster was born with just unbelievable genetic gifts, lots
Host:of people have been able to overcome certain deficiencies,
Host:because they had an exceptional skill. You know, I mean, if you
Host:can flat out shoot the ball, that will make up for maybe a
Host:lack of some natural athleticism that you don't have. And and I
Host:would say the same is true for being a high performer in any
Host:vocation. I mean, certainly, if you're going to be a world class
Host:singer, it would help for you to be born with the tools that
Host:would make it you know, make you privy to being a world class
Host:singer. But that doesn't mean that you can't be an incredibly
Host:successful salesperson or CEO or entrepreneur. So that's why I
Host:love the transition from sport to business, because it's less
Host:reliant on one's genetics and or athleticism.
Host:So when you look over then to the business world, do you
Host:think that that same rule applies that it's like to
Host:compete at the highest level a bit to be a fortune 100 CEO? Is
Host:there certain a genetic predisposition that is necessary
Host:to make it to that level? Are you saying in the business
Host:world, it's more of an equal playing field?
Host:Alan Stein Jr: I'm gonna say it's both and I don't say that
Host:to back out of an answer. I do think that there are some
Host:inherent traits that one can be born with that will improve
Host:their chances of being successful in that arena. Not
Host:everyone was born you know, with the with the academic IQ of a
Host:Warren Buffett or a Steve Jobs you know, not everyone was born
Host:with the inherit leadership skills that some of the best
Host:leaders like a Coach K. Duke basketball may have. So I do
Host:think there are certain traits and talents that one can be born
Host:with that will greatly increase their chances of being
Host:successful. But I also think a good portion of what's needed,
Host:our skills and skills can be developed and they're developed
Host:through repetition. When and through training and practicing
Host:with purpose. So I do believe it's both do I think every human
Host:being born has the potential to be a fortune 100 CEO? No, I do
Host:not. Do I think of a good portion of people can develop
Host:the skills that will put them in a position to be able to hold
Host:jobs like that.
Host:So is there anything in common in terms of maybe the
Host:habits that you see of the people who you go like on the
Host:surface, you go, Gosh, that person doesn't really come off.
Host:Like you mentioned, Steve Nash doesn't look like they have the
Host:genetic predisposition to be doing what they're doing, or the
Host:business world you go cast, that person doesn't really seem to
Host:have kind of like the natural charisma to be a great
Host:salesperson or a great leader. But somehow they rise above
Host:that.
Host:Alan Stein Jr: Yeah, there's two in particular that come to mind.
Host:One, the habits and mindsets, rituals, routines, and
Host:disciplines that they have during the unseen hours. It's
Host:what they're doing when the proverbial cameras aren't on
Host:that that really determines whether or not they'll be
Host:successful. Because at some level, we all have to appreciate
Host:the fact that our habits are a choice, you know, and our habits
Host:are what dictate whether or not we're successful in any
Host:endeavor. Our success is not predicated on things we do when
Host:we feel like it, when it's convenient, or when we want to
Host:our success is predicated on the things that we do every single
Host:day. So the people that create incredibly strong and positive
Host:work habits and are consistent with those are going to
Host:outperform and out achieve most other people. And the other is
Host:high performers. And high achievers have a relentless
Host:thirst for development, they are always looking to get an
Host:advantage and always looking to learn to grow to develop to
Host:sharpen their sword, and master their craft. A friend of mine
Host:named Michael Burke, who was a former basketball coach and is
Host:now in the business world as well. Like he coined a term that
Host:I love called execution gap, an execution gap is the difference
Host:between what we know we're supposed to do. And what we
Host:actually do. And every one of us has an execution gap. I mean,
Host:take physical fitness, everybody knows what they need to do to
Host:work out and to eat, right. But how many people actually do
Host:that? That's an execution gap. But we all have it. Well, the
Host:highest performers and the highest achievers. And for that
Host:matter, the happiest people on the planet, have narrowed their
Host:execution gap to almost nothing. They know what they're supposed
Host:to do, and they actually do it. And to me, that's the big
Host:equalizer, is what you do in the unseen hours, how bad you have
Host:the desire to improve and get better. And if you can close
Host:that execution gap. There's no reason why you can't be
Host:excellent and sales are excellent as a leader, if you're
Host:willing to work on those skill sets. And then if you take out
Host:let's say you're born and add it to that, then you're a
Host:superstar.
Host:On your perspective, how do you do it? How do you get
Host:yourself to do those things you know, you're supposed to do when
Host:you don't feel like doing it.
Host:Alan Stein Jr: From an accountability standpoint, I
Host:believe that, as human beings, whenever the spotlight is off,
Host:we're always going to revert back to bad behavior. So from an
Host:accountability standpoint, we need to put systems in place
Host:that always keep the spotlight on us. So for instance, if I'm
Host:looking to change a habit, my I want to start reading for 30
Host:minutes every night before I go to bed, it's in my best interest
Host:to share that with as many people as possible, especially
Host:the people in my inner circle, my family, my friends, my close
Host:colleagues, even in today's day and age, share it on social
Host:media, put it out there and let everyone know that this is a
Host:habit that you're trying to establish, because now the
Host:people that really care about you will help hold you
Host:accountable. So tomorrow you and I are chit chat, and you say,
Host:hey, Alan, did you do your reading last night? What did you
Host:read, tell me about what book you're into whatever. But now
Host:I'm going to have lots of people holding me accountable. And one
Host:of the worst emotions that any of us can ever feel is
Host:disappointing somebody else. So when you've put it out there,
Host:that you're going to change this habit to a lot of people, and
Host:they're constantly checking in with you and holding you
Host:accountable to see if you're doing it, you know, in order to
Host:not disappoint them. It's a way to keep that spotlight on you
Host:and hold you to the fire while you stick with that habit. And
Host:then the beautiful part about habits. You know, research shows
Host:that it can take as little as 21 days, sometimes as much as six
Host:to eight months to groove a new habit depending on you know, the
Host:depth of the habit, but it's still a finite period of time.
Host:So key is put systems in place to get the people that care
Host:about you to hold the spotlight on you for say three weeks to
Host:six months, and you'll have formed that new habit and then
Host:you can move on to another habit that you'd like to improve.
Host:I love it. Alan, where do you want people to go if they
Host:want to connect with you?
Host:Alan Stein Jr: Go to AlanSteinjr.com That's a l a n
Host:Ste i n jr.com. And I'm also at AlanSteinJr. on all social
Host:handles.
Host:Well, I appreciate it, brother and appreciate you
Host:coming on man. We wish you all the best.
Host:Alan Stein Jr: Thank you, likewise.