The Mikes have been recruited by Carey Elwes to put an end to some German U-Boats...wait, no...that's Henry Cavil and Alan Ritchson in The Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare.
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and talk about what we thought about it.
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:In this case, this week,
we're talking about the Ministry
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:of Ungentlemanly Warfare,
not the League of Ungentlemanly Warfare.
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I dubbed you with my voice.
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:We're talking about the Ministry of.
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:All right, so we watched this yesterday.
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our local cineplex.
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but we went to our local theater,
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because it's not in Imax.
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where it has the recliners
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shape, to say the least.
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what do you want to start here?
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you were your anticipation for this movie.
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any kind of anticipation for this film.
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Richie, was his last movie.
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you saw a covenant.
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the Jake Gyllenhaal one.
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Is that him, or was it Antoine Fuqua?
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because he directed that during the
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but but so did Fuqua.
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he's been suspended. And.
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he was up in the vans of offset, so
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it was shot during the pandemic
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and stuff like that.
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Fortune, ruse.
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and, Hugh Grant.
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one because I don't know where it went.
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as the idiot actor, right? Yes.
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that's not bad. Yeah.
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I was like oh it was okay when I saw it.
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every time I see a clip of I'm like,
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that Tom feels really good in that.
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on Netflix though.
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and he was trying to get me to watch it.
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the name of it, the Mysterio
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probably the perfect question to ask.
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they pretty much kill Nazis.
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it's always nice to have a bad guy
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yeah, no, they're the bad guy.
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in the violence level, like the violence
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character goes nuts.
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maybe they were kind of
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to figure out what they wanted to do.
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an Inglorious Basterds type bloodbath.
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I can understand that there were there
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like when he's got the ax and he's like,
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definitely doing some bad stuff.
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I guess it leaves it to the imagination,
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I guess I don't
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for that much.
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I was thinking that too, after the fact.
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gentlemen.
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but it's like it's violent gangsters.
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violence, if that makes sense.
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No he doesn't. Yeah. He never.
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don't really kind of cross that line.
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I guess I was, I was fine with that.
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the bad guys, I think there was never
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happening to them.
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that kind of like
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and not worry about that
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but then there's no stakes at hand.
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oh my God, what's going to happen?
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they're going to get away with it.
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kind of a double edged sword, but I think,
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like they're trying to do more
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who's a Henry Cavill's character,
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before it gets captured.
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but I don't think he gets captured.
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like that.
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one of the other guys or Freddie Alvarez.
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captured because Gus is the first one.
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about how it gives him, like all this,
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but it doesn't tell anything.
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is the one that gets captured
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and saying, gusted to
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don't think that was his character.
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that mission, that's what they said.
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who cares regarding that?
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you know, anything like that.
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whatever it was, was there's no stakes.
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not going to get away with it or not.
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that they were supposed to get?
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somewhere or two?
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you know what I mean?
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or whatever, but they they decided
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that's going to supply them.
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the montage of when they're sailing, like,
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they got to sail for 12 days
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with the the ministry.
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sailing along.
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there wasn't really much happening.
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they line them all up
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and they have, Marjorie with them.
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you ministry of ungentlemanly,
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ungentlemanly warfare. It's like.
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that they were part of that.
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They were setting everything up.
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to were the actual guys that, you know.
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to get the information.
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at one time together and
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caught in international waters,
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the unsanctioned mission.
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to their country.
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stakes, it's like you have the,
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heavier till till Schweiger.
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you know, like bulkier number, heavier.
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obviously Eli Roth with huge.
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who killed like a ton of Nazis.
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oh, he's got blood in his hands.
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briefly,
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which is, I guess, okay.
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there's no real stakes.
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a thing for beating people, but
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character was ever going to be.
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like, oh, Marjorie is going to get kicked.
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I never thought that, you know,
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up and then then they hear the explosion
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he's like, shackle her or whatever.
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they're going to take her with them.
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going to leave her there.
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And then she's in the car.
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maybe they'd get her on.
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the guy from, Strange New Worlds.
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electric room trying to shut the power.
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all right, then that's that's it.
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it's based on a true story.
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they all survived.
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that was the one moment I thought,
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someone's not going to get away with it.
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and he gets away right.
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with the exception of Heinrich Lure, who.
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that Till Schweiger played?
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were kind of bumbling.
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when even when they went to the prison,
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the guy that the robber.
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it just doesn't seem like the
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a well-organized, unit.
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just the location of where they were,
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or it was just kind
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they're not in the fight kind of thing.
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to be buffoonish and but like, we want.
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and nobody's going to complain about that.
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that, that, you know, they,
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take care of business and whatnot.
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and it's got really good action
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Al Allen Richardson's character,
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going on.
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when he's flipping here and there,
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and then he takes everybody out.
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when the prisoner.
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and he's like, shut up.
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because the air gun just rips
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because I don't know this offhand,
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because you love James Bond so much.
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oh, was character
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Gubbins, who's m the history of M.
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you know, like when that started.
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you know, the whole character of M
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it all starts in World
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like what Ian Fleming did.
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in real life, at least in World War two,
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that was an actual station.
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the origination of the term comes from.
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like he's the master of the group.
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that's why he was
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was big on the underhanded kind of stuff.
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I get whatever he was.
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gotta give a plug now for,
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Ian Fleming, Freddie Fox, he's actually
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Slow Horses with, Gary Oldman.
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That's actually British.
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You know what the slow horses are?
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the underdogs, the group of spies.
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because they're in Slough House.
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That's why they're called Slow Horses.
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where they're located in Slough House.
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is, is agents that have messed up
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with not just like screwed up and up, but,
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just to, to screw ups.
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they don't quit.
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to Slough House where they just sit there.
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a, he's there,
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and he's kind of a screw up too,
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he's like extremely mean to them.
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a good show and and they keep get renewed.
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like what I like about the show is
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maybe 6 or 6 episodes.
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they've already shot the next season.
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of the new season coming up.
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I do want to check it out.
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to check out.
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running. I'm trying to get.
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That was ten episodes, baby.
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Kong, whatever, blah blah, blah, whatever.
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the forgotten and, New Empire.
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I mean, we we liked it.
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I think primarily.
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probably going to be coming, to digital
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in the theater last night.
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if not, and I and I'm pretty sure, yeah,
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the teenagers that were there,
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probably were like in their early 20s,
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less about what was on screen.
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this was so, right.
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in front of us, separate separately.
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there wasn't a lot of people in theater.
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to digital very soon.
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them's the breaks, right?
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and I think I mentioned it to you,
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movies.
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well in the box office,
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a horror movie that's rated R as well.
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kind of stuck in the center.
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this movie is it didn't do a lot of Guy
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call it that or disappointed.
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it's like a heist or a planned.
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is we already done did it.
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that it didn't have any of those moments.
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have to, like,
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kind of background on people.
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:He does it though, when, when Gus is
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:saying who he wants to be on his team.
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:They do kind of do that little flashback
to the East character, but not in the way
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:that, you know, we're used to with a Guy
Ritchie film.
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:Right?
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:So, I, I understand that and, but
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:I think it's that's
because the story didn't lend to that.
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:I think it's more of a linear story
that that's what, that's what lent.
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:That's what probably, you know, Guy
Ritchie realized maybe, you know, he
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:he didn't need to do all that because,
I mean, I enjoy all that stuff, but it's
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:it depends on the story.
It depends if it needs it.
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:You know?
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:Well, I think this with the scheme,
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:it would add some kind of tension
to scenes where it's like
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:you don't know
if they're going to get out,
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:but it's like, but like the guys who get
chained into their their warehouse.
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:Maybe you don't know that
until that's revealed.
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:Oh wait, they've been locked in or,
you know, oh,
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:we're going to blow up the lights or,
you know, you can you can add tension
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:and then reveal how that
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:tension is resolved afterward, which Guy
Ritchie's really, really, really good at.
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:Yeah.
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:Well, I don't,
I mean, he's not done it before.
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:He didn't do it in Aladdin.
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:Of course.
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:he, he you know,
what's funny is the the King Arthur movie
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:that he did, he had some of that in there,
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:and I thought that that was not right
for that film was off putting.
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:I agree, I was not I mean yeah.
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:So so yeah. So sometimes it works,
sometimes it doesn't.
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:But hey, I'm you know, I think what we got
was, was was good and fun
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:and I'd watch it again when it comes on
digital just to kind of catch it again.
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:and there's a lot of people in it
that I didn't realize right now
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:when we were watching it.
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:I didn't realize that
because you mentioned with Henry Golding,
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:I didn't realize it was Henry Golding
either until we caught it.
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:Yeah, right. It's I, I was like,
oh, shoot, he was in there.
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:And then and then looking at it now,
they had the guy who was the original,
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:Alex Pettyfer is here, wasn't
he the original Percy Jackson
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:when that's that when it originally
came out, wasn't that him?
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:Oh, Or is or was he in?
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:I know the number one.
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:The number for one I am for. Is that it?
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:Well, that's also interesting as well.
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:Right, right.
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:So I didn't realize that was him.
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:then Rory Kinnear play Churchill,
which was really like.
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:I mean, this is the same
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:I mean, this is a side note,
but like, or tangent,
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:but like, with all these streamers
and all these movies that come out and,
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:you know, like Netflix and Apple
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:and all these shows, it's really difficult
to kind of follow a character,
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:follow an actor and just kind of be like,
oh, I like him.
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:He was it
because they're all over the place.
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:And then you see,
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:and then somebody pops up in this movie
and you're like, oh, they're really good.
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:And you don't really like,
they've probably been like 4
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:or 5 things you haven't seen before
that were really good.
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:you know what I mean?
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:They're just it's so difficult to I think
that's good for an actor, though. Now.
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:Oh, I was, I, I think I must yeah.
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:They get worse. Yeah.
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:They get a lot of work.
They can do a lot of different projects.
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:You're not stuck with just,
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:you know, well, especially like people
that end up doing Marvel,
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:it's like they've before streamers
that would have been their career.
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:Like, oh, I'm only known for this.
This is what I have to do.
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:And like they can go off
and do other stuff.
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:I mean, look at, Adam Driver,
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:I think before this kind of stuff
took off, he would have been one.
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:No, he'd been, a Star Wars villain. Now.
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:He would have just had girls beforehand.
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:But now with streamers and all that
and so many different avenues,
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:I think that's what's allowed him
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:to really be able to do stuff
like Marriage Story and,
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:whatever that Knight movie was with,
Matt Damon, they have to see
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:that now.
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:The, Yeah, the,
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:what was that?
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:You never saw it.
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:I didn't know, I didn't I didn't watch it.
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:I wanted to see it in theaters.
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:I still work at the theater.
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:And then the last duel.
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:Yes, but I think that's really good
for actors
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:to be able to,
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:to do all that.
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:Also, my mom just texted me,
instead of messaging on, on YouTube.
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:She's watching.
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:And she said,
my mustache is doofy and it's doofy.
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:I said, that it's based on,
Henry Cavill's mustache for the movie.
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:This is what he does with his beard
while shave it.
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:so the other thing I was going to say
was, well,
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:what you were saying, I understand,
but I'm looking at, I'm talking about
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:from a audience member,
from somebody who's a cinephile.
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:I'm saying it's kind of difficult
to latch on to, to certain
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:when you see an actor
and you just kind of like, oh, I never,
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:you know, like more and more.
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:Maybe I'm just old. More and more times
I just see people like, what?
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:Where are they from?
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:Like, so I mean, I know a lot
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:most of the cast, I've seen a lot of stuff
they've been and it's just,
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:I don't know, I guess
that's my old man take for the night.
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:I would say that
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:nowadays, more than ever, you need,
like IMDb to follow an actor's like,
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:find out what else would that cause
it is, like you said, everywhere.
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:What if I'm like, what?
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:But like this?
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:Take it from the fact
that if I'm a casual moviegoer,
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:you know, like like when you like,
we talk about this
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:on the podcast in the main show
about the big head posters that came out,
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:you know, like Harrison
Ford always had a big head poster.
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:Tom Cruise has a big head to head poster
because those faces sell tickets.
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:Denzel Washington, big head,
because that's why people go there.
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:So like,
we like, if you took this cast, you
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:I mean, I know
the poster has a couple of them
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:there, with the exception of Henry Cavill,
maybe Alan Ritchson because of.
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:But I think he's a regional.
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:Yeah, but but again, not
everyone has Prime Video.
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:So like that's the thing
I'm talking about.
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:Like that's where he and I know he's on.
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:what was the,
high school football, college football on?
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:not Franklin State.
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:Blue Mountain State was his. Yeah.
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:Yeah, I know he was in that too.
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:I'm just saying, like, it's
very like we know Herron be from
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:because he's in the Star Trek show.
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:So I mean, like, that's where we know him.
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:But again everyone it's Paramount Plus.
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:So it's like it's it's stuff like that
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:that I'm just saying it's
maybe for the casual moviegoer, it's
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:really difficult these days
to kind of latch on to a movie star,
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:somebody that is on the rise
or is in a lot of film stuff.
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:I don't know, it's just something
that kind of makes everybody
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:and makes everybody
a character actor instead of a movie star.
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:Which which again, it that's good.
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:I like that because it's good
you getting quality but again.
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:But you need to the world needs movie
stars and celebrities.
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:You need that.
You know what I mean? You just do.
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:The world of the movie star is ending.
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:No, I don't think so, man.
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:I don't think so.
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:The world of the superstar. I don't think
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:a lot of
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:superstars are going to have to be multi
multifaceted.
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:You're going to have to be a music and
movie superstar or something like that.
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:Can I say that every decade
that they still have people
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:that are just strictly
there's a there's just
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:there's somebody out there
that you we've probably seen in 1 or 2
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:things is going to blow up again
and be a big time action star.
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:You think there's going to be
another Harrison Ford or Tom cruise?
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:I don't, I don't they're out there.
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:They're out there.
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:Oh totally.
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:Totally. They're out there 100%.
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:absolutely.
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:We I, we might not be able to zero in
on who it is, but 200%,
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:there's absolutely going to be somebody
that is on some kind of TV show
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:that you probably have never seen.
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:And they're going to
they're going to be in something and like,
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:you know, whatever it is
and they're going to be a sir, absolutely.
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:I believe in the process. Butler
I believe it's you.
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:It's going to be you.
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:Oh, not with this mustache.
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:Exactly, exactly.
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:All right.
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:So I mean, I mean,
I don't know what else to say about this.
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