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The Mikes have been recruited by Carey Elwes to put an end to some German U-Boats...wait, no...that's Henry Cavil and Alan Ritchson in The Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare.

Join Mike Field and Mike Butler as they discuss this new Guy Ritchie film based on a recently declassified mission from World War 2.

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Ladies and gentlemen, please notice

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that exits are conveniently located

at the front and rear of this auditorium.

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When leaving the theater,

you suggest that the exit at the front of

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the auditorium will allow you

easier access to the parking area.

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Thank you.

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Hi, I'm Mike Butler.

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And I'm Mike field.

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And welcome to Forgotten Cinema lead up.

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Each episode,

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we highlight a film from a popular series

and follow it all the way to the. No.

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It's incorrect. Butler.

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We're doing.

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We're doing now showing

where the hell is now showing.

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oh. We don't have it.

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We just say forgotten cinema not showing.

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It's not really.

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Yeah. That's what we've been doing.

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I could've sworn I got yelled

at last time for looking for it.

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And you were like

we don't have one, we just do it.

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Hi, I'm Mike

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Butler, And I'm Mike field

and you're watching.

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Forgotten cinema now showing where we take

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a look at one of the newest releases

and talk about what we thought about it.

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In this case, this week,

we're talking about the Ministry

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of Ungentlemanly Warfare,

not the League of Ungentlemanly Warfare.

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I think some of. Yeah.

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I fix the reel that you did.

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I, I saw I saw the post that you change.

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The other thing

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I did, you see that

I dubbed you with my voice.

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Oh, no, I didn't watch it.

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You also.

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Yeah. You're like, hi, guys.

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This is it.

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We're talking about the Ministry of.

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I love it.

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All right, so we watched this yesterday.

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We did.

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We went to our local cinema, Cinemark,

our local cineplex.

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Excuse me, has Cinemark.

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It was a Cinemark,

but we went to our local theater,

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and we actually didn't watch in Imax

because it's not in Imax.

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We saw it in one of the other theaters

where it has the recliners

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that were in interesting

shape, to say the least.

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so, I mean, where would you like to

what do you want to start here?

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You want to start off with, what you saw

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right off the bat or what

you were your anticipation for this movie.

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I mean, I didn't have

any kind of anticipation for this film.

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I wasn't normally like.

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Yeah, I mean, I like I,

Richie, was his last movie.

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We saw the gentleman. well,

you saw a covenant.

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I didn't see covenant.

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was that his last?

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That was his last film? Yeah,

the Jake Gyllenhaal one.

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I'm pretty sure that was the last one

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I saw. Covenant. Yep.

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Wrath of man is his two,

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right? He.

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He did. Wrath of man, right?

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Wasn't that.

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What.

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What's with, Statham?

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Isn't that.

Is that him, or was it Antoine Fuqua?

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Who did Wrath of Man?

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Oh I don't oh you're right, he did.

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He did do Wrath of Man. Right.

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Because I remember he

because he directed that during the

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pandemic.

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Yeah. Yeah, he did it.

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He did it on but but,

but but so did Fuqua.

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Did the one with

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Jake Gyllenhaal where he's the responder,

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where he's, the 911 operator, like,

he's been suspended. And.

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Oh, that was awesome as well.

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Yeah, well,

he was up in the vans of offset, so

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because you could tell like they were

it was shot during the pandemic

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and they were near each other

and stuff like that.

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so, so yeah. So no. Yeah.

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I guess the covenant, the last one I did

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see that you didn't see, Operation

Fortune, ruse.

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Dig? Yeah.

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Whatever they didn't see that one with,

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that's also with Jason Statham

and, Hugh Grant.

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that's the one.

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No, I wanted to I didn't get to see that

one because I don't know where it went.

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So that's in theaters

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because that's also got Josh Hartnett

as the idiot actor, right? Yes.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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That's actually not bad.

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That's pretty good. That's

that's not bad. Yeah.

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That's what I saw was the gentleman.

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Yeah.

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Which I didn't mention.

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I mean I didn't not like it, but

I was like oh it was okay when I saw it.

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But the more I see clips of it,

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the more I want to go back to it, because

every time I see a clip of I'm like,

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I like this scene, I like this scene.

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Colin Farrell is really good in

that Tom feels really good in that.

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Yeah.

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but that's a show now too

on Netflix though.

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They got a, they did like a Netflix.

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Yeah I think it is

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because somebody was somebody I know

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watched it

and he was trying to get me to watch it.

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So I said I'll get around to it.

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but anyways let's talk about this

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which I already forgot

the name of it, the Mysterio

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bathroom.

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Okay.

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I don't know, man.

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What what what did you think?

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I guess that's

probably the perfect question to ask.

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I mean, it's a movie where for two hours,

they pretty much kill Nazis.

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So I dug it. Yeah.

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It's always fun to kill Nazis.

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Everything we talk about on the podcast,

it's always nice to have a bad guy

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in a realistic movie where it's like,

yeah, no, they're the bad guy.

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And it's easy to.

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It's easy to be okay with all the murder.

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I was a little disappointed

in the violence level, like the violence

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was there.

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Especially when Alan Richardson's

character goes nuts.

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yeah.

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But it wasn't very.

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It's rated R, but it's not very gory.

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It kind of hides and, hides the violence.

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It's almost like it's trying to be peachy.

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13 but they say the F-word a couple times.

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yeah, I don't know.

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I mean, maybe, maybe there was some

maybe they were kind of

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on the fence trying

to figure out what they wanted to do.

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rating wise, I thought that a little.

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I mean, we're so used to.

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I mean, I guess I'm waiting for, like,

an Inglorious Basterds type bloodbath.

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Kind of sad.

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Yeah.

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so,

I can understand that there were there

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probably were some stuff,

like when he's got the ax and he's like,

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you know, he's

definitely doing some bad stuff.

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you know,

I guess it leaves it to the imagination,

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but but again, to be, to, to, to be fair,

I guess I don't

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I don't know if Guy Ritchie's really known

for that much.

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I was like,

I was thinking that too, after the fact.

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Yeah. I can't remember. Like.

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I mean, he's doesn't have a lot of blood,

gentlemen.

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I know, I mean,

but it's like it's violent gangsters.

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But there's never a lot of hardcore

violence, if that makes sense.

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Yeah, right.

No he doesn't. Yeah. He never.

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His movies

don't really kind of cross that line.

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More like a Tarantino might or others.

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I can't think of a top of my head, but.

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Yeah. So so

I guess I was, I was fine with that.

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But like with it, when you talk about

the bad guys, I think there was never

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there was never any real danger of them

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being caught or being killed or,

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you know, like anything

happening to them.

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So I think that, you know, that that,

that kind of like

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it allows you to have to enjoy the film

and not worry about that

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kind of stuff, but also

but then there's no stakes at hand.

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There's no kind of like,

oh my God, what's going to happen?

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I kind of know

they're going to get away with it.

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So it's

kind of a double edged sword, but I think,

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I think the film clearly trying to set up

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another one, I would assume,

like they're trying to do more

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because it felt like that.

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I mean, according to the film, Gus,

who's a Henry Cavill's character,

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only has one more mission. And,

before it gets captured.

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oh. That was him who got captured.

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I thought it was, Not.

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You mean Henry Golden?

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Is Henry Golden? Gus.

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Who's Gus?

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I thought it was Henry Cavill's. Gus.

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I don't think so.

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I just remembering his Gus's.

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And you.

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I know this thing's going in, man.

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Now he is Gus,

but I don't think he gets captured.

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I think it was, I thought it was.

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I thought it was like Hades or something

like that.

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Or one of the

one of the other guys or Freddie Alvarez.

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I thought it was one of them who gets,

captured because Gus is the first one.

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They pop up and it talks

about how it gives him, like all this,

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that he was the inspiration for change,

but it doesn't tell anything.

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But then the second or third guy

is the one that gets captured

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and who never breaks.

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I thought they just go back to Gus

and saying, gusted to

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another mission afterward.

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And he got caught, but he never broke.

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No, that wasn't I don't that I really

don't think that was his character.

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I think that was somebody else,

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because he ends up marrying Marjorie

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Stewart like a year later after that,

that mission, that's what they said.

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And, but regardless,

who cares regarding that?

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Regardless?

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so yeah, I didn't really have any kind of

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I really didn't have any kind of,

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I don't know, a negative thing.

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I enjoyed the film.

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I didn't really have any kind of

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oh, that took me out in like this,

you know, anything like that.

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So I don't know.

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I'm trying to figure out, I guess maybe

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my biggest knock,

whatever it was, was there's no stakes.

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There's no there's no concern that they're

not going to get away with it or not.

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I can't do what they need to do.

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I will ask you this, though.

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They go and steal one boat.

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But weren't there three boats

that they were supposed to get?

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Isn't there like a third boat

somewhere or two?

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Two other boats in a different like,

you know what I mean?

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Like they were like

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there were the U-boats themselves

or whatever, but they they decided

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we're just going to steal the boat

that's going to supply them.

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And that's what I'm over.

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Okay.

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So I mean, I guess the,

the montage of when they're sailing, like,

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because at some point

they got to sail for 12 days

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and it's like nothing really happens

with the the ministry.

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They're just kind of on the boat

sailing along.

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So I didn't really think that,

there wasn't really much happening.

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And then

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at the end of the movie when they kind of,

they line them all up

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and they have hair on with them

and they have, Marjorie with them.

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They're like, you know, you

you ministry of ungentlemanly,

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you ministry of, you know,

ungentlemanly warfare. It's like.

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But I didn't think

that they were part of that.

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I thought they were just add ons.

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They were just there to help out.

They were setting everything up.

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And these ruffians were going

to were the actual guys that, you know.

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Right?

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They were just doing what I did beforehand

to get the information.

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And it was everyone

at one time together and

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because they well, because they all got

caught in international waters,

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right, with the German, which,

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with a mission that was unsanctioned.

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So even though they were spies,

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they were still doing

the unsanctioned mission.

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So they were still technically traitors

to their country.

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Okay.

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So yeah.

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But, do you go ahead?

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Well, another thing, when you talk about

stakes, it's like you have the,

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what's the actress name?

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I actually I actually really like him.

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the German guy.

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I'll take he's got a.

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Yeah, he was, he was

heavier till till Schweiger.

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He was heavier in, Bastards.

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He was like, beat, like.

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I guess he was like,

you know, like bulkier number, heavier.

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Because he was supposed to be super scary.

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Yeah, he wasn't quite like the bear.

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The bear drew was like,

obviously Eli Roth with huge.

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But he was supposed to be like someone

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you don't mess with

who killed like a ton of Nazis.

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But in this one, when he appears,

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it's like you get,

oh, he's got blood in his hands.

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And you see the beaten woman in his,

briefly,

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and his his, I guess, beating room,

which is, I guess, okay.

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At your cabin.

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Yeah.

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But it's just like there's no stakes.

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You don't get to see how bad he torture.

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Like, not that I want to see

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how bad he tortured her, but, like,

there's no real stakes.

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Again, we don't know exactly.

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Like, we know he's got, like,

a thing for beating people, but

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there's no stakes with his character.

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I never felt like Isaac, Gonzalez's

character was ever going to be.

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Was really in danger.

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And like,

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first thing, you're supposed to think

like, oh, Marjorie is going to get kicked.

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And it's like,

I never thought that, you know,

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like when they were going to shackle her

up and then then they hear the explosion

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and he's like,

he's like, shackle her or whatever.

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And but I didn't see

they're going to take her with them.

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I thought they were just

going to leave her there.

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Then, you know, that's what I thought too.

And then she's in the car.

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Yeah, but then I thought

maybe they'd get her on.

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his character,

the guy from, Strange New Worlds.

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Because he gets caught in the.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, he gets caught in the

electric room trying to shut the power.

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And I was like,

all right, then that's that's it.

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He's going to get caught.

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One person's got stakes.

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And then I mean, granted,

it's based on a true story.

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So if they all survived,

they all survived.

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But like,

that was the one moment I thought,

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all right,

someone's not going to get away with it.

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And then he kills every single person

and he gets away right.

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Well,

with the exception of Heinrich Lure, who.

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Which is the character

that Till Schweiger played?

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the the other Nazis were,

were kind of bumbling.

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They're kind of buffoonish.

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Like they're very easy to kill, very easy.

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Like to to trick. Very easy to like.

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I mean, maybe that's just kind of like the

when even when they went to the prison,

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and they and they rescued,

the guy that the robber.

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Yeah. Henry. Right.

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Yeah. Yes. was a Philip. Yeah. Henry.

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Oh, no.

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Jeffrey. Jeffrey. Jeffrey.

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When they go to rescue him,

it just doesn't seem like the

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the the Nazis were,

a well-organized, unit.

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all over.

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And I don't know if that's

just the location of where they were,

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like, in terms of in southern Africa,

or it was just kind

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of, you know, I mean, like,

they're not in the fight kind of thing.

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I think there's also

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kind of just like, hey, we want the Nazis

to be buffoonish and but like, we want.

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Yeah. Okay.

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So it's kind of like,

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oh, nobody's going to complain

and nobody's going to complain about that.

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Yeah, exactly.

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Nobody's going to complain about that

that, that, you know, they,

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they want to see the ministry

take care of business and whatnot.

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So and then it's got

and it's got really good action

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in that way, especially like you said,

Al Allen Richardson's character,

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what's his character? The Anders.

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You know, he's got a lot of good stuff

going on.

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He he's, you know, it's.

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And then you got Henry Cavill just kind of

when he's flipping here and there,

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when he goes in and he starts

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laughing with the joke,

and then he takes everybody out.

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Oh, in the, in the barracks

when the prisoner.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Or the one Nazi who's trying to get the,

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the commander's attention

and he's like, shut up.

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And then all of a sudden it's too late

because the air gun just rips

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through them.

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Yeah, yeah. The.

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I wanted to ask you this

because I don't know this offhand,

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and I don't know

because you love James Bond so much.

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I'm wondering if you know this.

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The Carol Ellis character,

oh, was character

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Brigadier

Gubbins, who's m the history of M.

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What is that?

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Do you do

you know, like when that started.

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What?

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That like,

you know, the whole character of M

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because you see that,

it all starts in World

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War two in terms of,

like what Ian Fleming did.

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okay.

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I, I'm pretty sure there is real

in real life, at least in World War two,

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there wasn't a m

that was an actual station.

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He's all them.

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Yeah.

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I'm curious where

the origination of the term comes from.

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I don't know if you knew that offhand.

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Oh, I don't know. Okay.

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I think it comes from master

like he's the master of the group.

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That's what I always assumed.

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But he's under my master Churchill.

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Yeah, but he's under Churchill.

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He's under correct?

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Yeah. The p m. Yeah.

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Okay.

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Well, because Churchill basically started

that's why he was

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Churchill

was big on the underhanded kind of stuff.

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I thought that was that Kingsman.

I get whatever he was.

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Yeah, okay.

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I was just curious about that.

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if if you, I kind of

gotta give a plug now for,

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if you the the actor that played,

Ian Fleming, Freddie Fox, he's actually

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in a show that I watch on Apple called

Slow Horses with, Gary Oldman.

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yeah.

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I recommend that.

That's actually British.

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Do you know what it's about?

You know what the slow horses are?

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It's like a bumbling group of, like,

the underdogs, the group of spies.

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They're not.

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They're not bumbling

because they're in Slough House.

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That's where they're.

That's why they're called Slow Horses.

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That's

where they're located in Slough House.

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And what it is

is, is agents that have messed up

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have done something like

with not just like screwed up and up, but,

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you know, maybe have a gambling addiction

just to, to screw ups.

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But and so they, they don't want to

they don't quit.

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So they, they send them to this to,

to Slough House where they just sit there.

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And Gary Oldman is like a,

a, he's there,

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he's their boss

and he's kind of a screw up too,

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but he just he just doesn't

he's like extremely mean to them.

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But anyways.

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And Fleming, he's he's in that

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he's in that show and he it's it's

a good show and and they keep get renewed.

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They got renewed for

like what I like about the show is

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they're like six, eight episodes,

maybe 6 or 6 episodes.

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And, and when they end the season,

they've already shot the next season.

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So you see a preview of the

of the new season coming up.

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And he's doing a bunch of books. Yeah.

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And it's just it's it's a nice quick show.

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It's it's about spies in Britain.

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So I don't know I recommend it if, if you

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if you're ever feeling that itch

I do want to check it out.

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I do obviously I love spy stuff.

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So I've put on my list of stuff

to check out.

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I have finished

running. I'm trying to get.

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Yeah, please.

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I've already already watched, monarch.

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I already watched that whole thing.

That was ten episodes, baby.

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Look at you. Look at you go.

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I know I said I would do it when we did.

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the now showing for Godzilla,

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and Godzilla and Gam

Kong, whatever, blah blah, blah, whatever.

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That was the subtitle again,

the forgotten and, New Empire.

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Empire just

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so. Anyways, so I guess there's really,

I mean, we we liked it.

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It's a fun movie to go to.

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It's clearly a movie for dudes,

I think primarily.

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I mean, although I would imagine it's

probably going to be coming, to digital

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real quick because we were two of seven

in the theater last night.

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So, yeah,

if not, and I and I'm pretty sure, yeah,

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I'm pretty sure the, the young people,

the teenagers that were there,

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the teenagers are

probably were like in their early 20s,

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really couldn't care

less about what was on screen.

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So, because they were

this was so, right.

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It was. Yeah.

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It was just you and me.

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And then there's two single dude sitting

in front of us, separate separately.

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I know there was an old couple as well.

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Oh. Was there okay, so it was

there wasn't a lot of people in theater.

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So I would imagine this is coming straight

to digital very soon.

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but hey, that's them's

them's the breaks, right?

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The theaters are.

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It is a thing.

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Well, I mean, they were also

and I think I mentioned it to you,

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they're going up against two other Rated-R

movies.

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You've got Civil War, which is still doing

well in the box office,

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and they went up against Abigail, which is

a horror movie that's rated R as well.

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So then you have this World War Two

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kind of Guy Ritchie movie

kind of stuck in the center.

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One thing I was a little disappointed with

this movie is it didn't do a lot of Guy

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Ritchie stuff.

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I don't know if you kind of

call it that or disappointed.

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I just kind of like

it's like a heist or a planned.

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It's all it's all about a plot, a scheme.

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And they didn't really do that. Typical.

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Because here's what we're going to do.

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All right.

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But what you don't realize

is we already done did it.

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I was a little sad

that it didn't have any of those moments.

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Well, it was more of a linear.

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It was more of a linear, story.

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So I guess you really didn't

have to, like,

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I was trying to remember if they do like,

kind of background on people.

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He does it though, when, when Gus is

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saying who he wants to be on his team.

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They do kind of do that little flashback

to the East character, but not in the way

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that, you know, we're used to with a Guy

Ritchie film.

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Right?

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So, I, I understand that and, but

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I think it's that's

because the story didn't lend to that.

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I think it's more of a linear story

that that's what, that's what lent.

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That's what probably, you know, Guy

Ritchie realized maybe, you know, he

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he didn't need to do all that because,

I mean, I enjoy all that stuff, but it's

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it depends on the story.

It depends if it needs it.

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You know?

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Well, I think this with the scheme,

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it would add some kind of tension

to scenes where it's like

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you don't know

if they're going to get out,

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but it's like, but like the guys who get

chained into their their warehouse.

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Maybe you don't know that

until that's revealed.

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Oh wait, they've been locked in or,

you know, oh,

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we're going to blow up the lights or,

you know, you can you can add tension

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and then reveal how that

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tension is resolved afterward, which Guy

Ritchie's really, really, really good at.

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Yeah.

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Well, I don't,

I mean, he's not done it before.

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He didn't do it in Aladdin.

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Of course.

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he, he you know,

what's funny is the the King Arthur movie

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that he did, he had some of that in there,

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and I thought that that was not right

for that film was off putting.

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I agree, I was not I mean yeah.

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So so yeah. So sometimes it works,

sometimes it doesn't.

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But hey, I'm you know, I think what we got

was, was was good and fun

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and I'd watch it again when it comes on

digital just to kind of catch it again.

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and there's a lot of people in it

that I didn't realize right now

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when we were watching it.

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I didn't realize that

because you mentioned with Henry Golding,

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I didn't realize it was Henry Golding

either until we caught it.

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Yeah, right. It's I, I was like,

oh, shoot, he was in there.

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And then and then looking at it now,

they had the guy who was the original,

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Alex Pettyfer is here, wasn't

he the original Percy Jackson

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when that's that when it originally

came out, wasn't that him?

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Oh, Or is or was he in?

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I know the number one.

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The number for one I am for. Is that it?

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Well, that's also interesting as well.

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Right, right.

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So I didn't realize that was him.

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then Rory Kinnear play Churchill,

which was really like.

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I mean, this is the same

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I mean, this is a side note,

but like, or tangent,

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but like, with all these streamers

and all these movies that come out and,

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you know, like Netflix and Apple

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and all these shows, it's really difficult

to kind of follow a character,

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follow an actor and just kind of be like,

oh, I like him.

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He was it

because they're all over the place.

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And then you see,

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and then somebody pops up in this movie

and you're like, oh, they're really good.

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And you don't really like,

they've probably been like 4

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or 5 things you haven't seen before

that were really good.

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you know what I mean?

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They're just it's so difficult to I think

that's good for an actor, though. Now.

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Oh, I was, I, I think I must yeah.

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They get worse. Yeah.

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They get a lot of work.

They can do a lot of different projects.

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You're not stuck with just,

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you know, well, especially like people

that end up doing Marvel,

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it's like they've before streamers

that would have been their career.

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Like, oh, I'm only known for this.

This is what I have to do.

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And like they can go off

and do other stuff.

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I mean, look at, Adam Driver,

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I think before this kind of stuff

took off, he would have been one.

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No, he'd been, a Star Wars villain. Now.

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He would have just had girls beforehand.

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But now with streamers and all that

and so many different avenues,

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I think that's what's allowed him

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to really be able to do stuff

like Marriage Story and,

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whatever that Knight movie was with,

Matt Damon, they have to see

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that now.

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The, Yeah, the,

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what was that?

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You never saw it.

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I didn't know, I didn't I didn't watch it.

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I wanted to see it in theaters.

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I still work at the theater.

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And then the last duel.

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Yes, but I think that's really good

for actors

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to be able to,

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to do all that.

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Also, my mom just texted me,

instead of messaging on, on YouTube.

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She's watching.

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And she said,

my mustache is doofy and it's doofy.

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I said, that it's based on,

Henry Cavill's mustache for the movie.

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This is what he does with his beard

while shave it.

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so the other thing I was going to say

was, well,

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what you were saying, I understand,

but I'm looking at, I'm talking about

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from a audience member,

from somebody who's a cinephile.

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I'm saying it's kind of difficult

to latch on to, to certain

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when you see an actor

and you just kind of like, oh, I never,

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you know, like more and more.

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Maybe I'm just old. More and more times

I just see people like, what?

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Where are they from?

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Like, so I mean, I know a lot

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most of the cast, I've seen a lot of stuff

they've been and it's just,

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I don't know, I guess

that's my old man take for the night.

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I would say that

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nowadays, more than ever, you need,

like IMDb to follow an actor's like,

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find out what else would that cause

it is, like you said, everywhere.

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What if I'm like, what?

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But like this?

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Take it from the fact

that if I'm a casual moviegoer,

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you know, like like when you like,

we talk about this

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on the podcast in the main show

about the big head posters that came out,

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you know, like Harrison

Ford always had a big head poster.

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Tom Cruise has a big head to head poster

because those faces sell tickets.

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Denzel Washington, big head,

because that's why people go there.

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So like,

we like, if you took this cast, you

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I mean, I know

the poster has a couple of them

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there, with the exception of Henry Cavill,

maybe Alan Ritchson because of.

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But I think he's a regional.

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Yeah, but but again, not

everyone has Prime Video.

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So like that's the thing

I'm talking about.

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Like that's where he and I know he's on.

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what was the,

high school football, college football on?

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not Franklin State.

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Blue Mountain State was his. Yeah.

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Yeah, I know he was in that too.

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I'm just saying, like, it's

very like we know Herron be from

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because he's in the Star Trek show.

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So I mean, like, that's where we know him.

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But again everyone it's Paramount Plus.

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So it's like it's it's stuff like that

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that I'm just saying it's

maybe for the casual moviegoer, it's

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really difficult these days

to kind of latch on to a movie star,

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somebody that is on the rise

or is in a lot of film stuff.

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I don't know, it's just something

that kind of makes everybody

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and makes everybody

a character actor instead of a movie star.

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Which which again, it that's good.

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I like that because it's good

you getting quality but again.

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But you need to the world needs movie

stars and celebrities.

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You need that.

You know what I mean? You just do.

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The world of the movie star is ending.

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No, I don't think so, man.

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I don't think so.

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The world of the superstar. I don't think

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a lot of

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superstars are going to have to be multi

multifaceted.

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You're going to have to be a music and

movie superstar or something like that.

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Can I say that every decade

that they still have people

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that are just strictly

there's a there's just

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there's somebody out there

that you we've probably seen in 1 or 2

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things is going to blow up again

and be a big time action star.

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You think there's going to be

another Harrison Ford or Tom cruise?

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I don't, I don't they're out there.

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They're out there.

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Oh totally.

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Totally. They're out there 100%.

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absolutely.

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We I, we might not be able to zero in

on who it is, but 200%,

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there's absolutely going to be somebody

that is on some kind of TV show

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that you probably have never seen.

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And they're going to

they're going to be in something and like,

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you know, whatever it is

and they're going to be a sir, absolutely.

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I believe in the process. Butler

I believe it's you.

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It's going to be you.

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Oh, not with this mustache.

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Exactly, exactly.

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All right.

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So I mean, I mean,

I don't know what else to say about this.

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but go check it out if you can.

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what else do you want to close off with?

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Anything?

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in their current format

of being available to

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everybody,

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You got a couple more left.

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I know we're doing, plan to the,

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Kingdom of the planet of the apes,

and we're doing the, Oh, nice.

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Here, you can use the banners.

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All right.

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National production here.

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About 2 or 3 weeks. Right.

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it may have come to May

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15th,

because once again, there's 11, 12, 13th.

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We watch it

14th, May 14th. Yeah. May 14th.

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And then we're doing Furiosa as well,

a mad Max saga.

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So we're going to do those, and then it's

going to become part of the Patreon.

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but also if you want to join the Patreon,

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Join the Patreon.

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and then we're going to do the entire

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So that's should

be a really fun time as well.

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Nice.

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