In this episode, Patrick Casale and Jennifer Agee openly discuss the realities of running a business together as partners with different neurotypes. They share the unique strengths and challenges that they bring into their business partnership, highlighting Patrick Casale's AuDHDer (Autistic/ADHD) perspective and Jennifer Agee's neurotypical perspective, who self-described “as neurotypical as neurotypicals get.”

Their honest reflections highlight the importance of communication, empathy, and flexibility when collaborating across neurotypes—not just in business, but in all relationships.

Here are 3 key takeaways:

1. Self-Awareness and Communication are Critical: Both Patrick Casale and Jennifer Agee emphasize the importance of acknowledging and discussing differences in processing, communication, and strengths. Open, honest conversations can help avoid resentment and frustration in team dynamics.
2. Burnout and Capacity Fluctuate—And That’s Okay: Entrepreneurial life is not static. Patrick Casale shares his experience with Autistic burnout and how roles in the partnership shift as capacity changes. Accepting these ebbs and flows is essential for sustainability and growth.
3. Adapt Roles, Don’t Force Equality: True partnership isn’t always a 50/50 split. Regularly reevaluating what actually works (instead of sticking to outdated expectations) makes the collaboration healthier for everyone involved. Bringing in extra support when needed can make all the difference.

More about Jennifer:

Jennifer Agee is the founder of Counseling Community, Inc. and Counseling Community KC, and the co-founder of Empowered Escapes. A licensed clinical professional counselor and strategic business coach, Jennifer helps fellow helpers and healers thrive emotionally, professionally, and financially.

Her passion? Creating spaces where therapists and wellness entrepreneurs stop surviving and start living. Through coaching, retreats, and a whole lot of joyful disruption, she empowers others to step away from burnout and into purpose-driven abundance.

From launching a nonprofit mission base in South Africa to building a vibrant, affirming counseling practice in Kansas City, Jennifer’s work spans continents and communities—but her heart stays rooted in service, strategy, and soul.

Whether she’s leading a transformational summit, whipping up a sourdough loaf, or talking you into trying the latest TikTok trend, she does it with vision, humor, and heart.

1. Social Media Links: beacons.ai/counselingcommunity
2. Aruba Cruise: counselingcomm.kartra.com/page/aruba_cruise
3. South Africa Retreat: counselingcomm.kartra.com/page/southafrica2026

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I want to thank Alma for sponsoring this episode. Building and managing the practice you want can be challenging. That’s why Alma offers tools and resources to help you build not just any practice, but your private practice. They’ll help you navigate insurance, access referrals who are the right fit for you, and efficiently manage administrative tasks — so you can spend less time on the details, and more time delivering great care. You support your clients. Alma supports you. Visit helloalma.com/ATPP to learn more.

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