God’s Redemption Through Music with Jay Davids (Ep 103)

Introduction

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Jason: Thank you for listening. Welcome to the podcast. I'm your host, Jason McConnell. In this episode, I have the great privilege of introducing an amazing worship leader, recording artist, and storyteller, Jay David, who has a passion for creating music that shares hope, redemption, and the beauty of God's grace.

And I'm Kind of here to tell you he's not joking. This guy's the real deal. You can find his music on Spotify, iTunes, or navigate to https://jaydavids.com. That's https://jaydavids.com. I put a link to his website and social media in the show notes, so be sure to check him out after this episode, of course. And be sure to follow him on iTunes and Spotify or wherever you get your music.

For now, let's sit back and relax and go on a musical journey.

Guest Introduction

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Jason: So welcome Jay, thank you for gifting us with your of your time today.

Jay: Oh, it's my pleasure. Thanks for having me.

Jason: Well, that's definitely my pleasure.

Jay David's Faith Journey

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Jason: Um, I like to start off by letting all the students kind of get to know my guests and to kind of kick that off. You shared that your favorite Bible verse was Jeremiah 29 11.

Um, for I know the plan that I have for you declares the plans to prosper you and not to harm you plans to give you hope and a future. And just curious, how does this verse speak to you?

Jay: It's, it's one of those verses that it's kind of a foundational verse for me. You know, I come back to it over and over again throughout my life. And, um, because there's been a lot of times, a lot of like those chaotic moments in life, you know? And, um, you know, knowing that God has a plan and that I'm not just out here winging it.

Um, even though I might feel like I'm winging it, there's some master plan in place and I'm really just walking it out. I just walk it out in faith because I don't know the plan. He knows the plan. So for me, it's that reassurance. It's it's kind of that comfort of. God's got this. Um, I mean, I don't have this.

God's got this, you know? So I always come back to that. They, I know the plans I have for you says the Lord plans for good to give you a future and a hope it's not just a God's going to make things good for me. It's it's there's hope. They're, God's giving me a hope for that future. So it's that, like I said, that's, that's really for me.

It's something I come back to frequently like that. I'm not going to say daily, but there's enough dark times in life when I just got, I just need to know that you've got that. This is you got to remind myself of that.

Jason: that's fair. Um, you and I talked a little bit about your faith journey. Um, sounds like it's been pretty interesting. You, you grew up surrounded by faith and like many, uh, spend some time wandering in the desert before you got back on track with God. Um, would you mind walking us through a little bit, whatever you're willing to share?

Jay: Oh yeah, absolutely. Um, I'm kind of an open book with, with my story.

Musical Beginnings and Family Influence

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Jay: Um, I did, I did grow up in church. I grew up, uh, you know, we were at church every time the doors opened. And, um, uh, that's an, it's an interesting way to grow up because you get very. Much ingrained in the church culture, um, and then you get out in the world and life kind of hits you right in the face because the world is not church culture.

Um, so at about, I don't, I want to say that I, I glided along, um, as a child, you know, through my teenage years through high school. Um. And then, you know, I was still doing my own thing. And then suddenly I, uh, I decided I was going to start doing some, some music and I started playing out and doing, doing different things.

And I was probably in, you know, 10th, 11th grade, you know, so maybe I was 15, 16, I was having fun with my, with my band and stuff like that. Um, I was about 17 years old. I, uh, found myself in this. little coffee house in Port Jeff, Long Island, um, which the coffee house is no longer there, a little Christian coffee house.

Uh, and, um, a guy named Mike DelGiudice was playing piano and singing songs. And I didn't know the songs necessarily. Some of them sounded familiar, but, um, and then all of a sudden the night kind of shifted and it's turned into like. This worship session, there's just and everyone's like on their feet and all of a sudden this became church, um, which I was very familiar with that, but for it to happen on a Friday night.

Um, at a random place where we were just out getting pastries and coffee. Um, that's, that was the surprise, right? And that was kind of the night that God got ahold of me, you know, lack of a better way to put it, the, the, the spirit just touched me, you know, it just, just hit me that night. Um, within days I had kind of decided that I wasn't on the right path.

And I went and talked to my, my buddies in my band who were, who were some of my best friends. Um, And I said, listen, guys, like I can't keep doing what we're doing and kind of backed away from the band that we were doing and, um, said, Hey, this next year, I didn't want to let them down. So it was like this next big show that we were working on, which was still several months away.

That's, that's going to be my, my last one. And, um, and they respected that. And so then I, I, I kind of shifted gears and started doing, um, Um, Doing my own christian music and put a little group together. Um, eventually, you know, throughout college. That wasn't instant. That was just like, it took some time to get there.

I went and started playing at that coffee house with, you know, joined the band basically down there and started like, okay, this is, this is where I need to be right now. Learned a lot through that. But so that was like that come to Jesus moment for me. Um, was I, I, I literally, Growing up in it, I feel like I went to the altar probably 7, 8, 10 times to get saved, and then I'd go down, you know, a couple years later and get saved again, and then I'd go down a couple years later and get saved again, you know, um, I feel like I did that over and over again, um, and finally it.

Finally, that moment was, was when I realized that, wow, this is real. This isn't just, this isn't just me. Um, this isn't just some, my parents religion or the preacher's religion or somebody else. This, this is, this is real. This just became real in me. And so it was that, that. Wow, there's nothing in the world that could ever take that moment at the coffee house that night away from me.

Um, and it changed it. Like I said it for me to go and talk to my best friends and say, Hey, I'm not going to keep doing what we were doing that, you know, for for a teenager that had to be. That had to be a moment, um,

Jason: that's pretty powerful.

Jay: um, and then, you know, life happened after that, um, lots of, lots of life.

Um, I was married young at 20, uh, 21 years old, uh, moved to Texas, went through some, some things, some darkness in my life. And, um, we can talk more about that stuff as we go, but it's, you know, it's God, God took me on a journey and. That's where that verse comes back in. 'cause I know the darkness and the depth that I've been in.

I know the, the, the wondering of God, where, where are you? I, I understand that even as a Christian, in fact, there was more of that as a Christian than there ever was when I just was living life. Um,

Jason: that makes sense. Now you shared something that resonated with me. Um, but I think it was in the the Guest interest form. You said faith isn't always clean or easy. It's raw and real and That kind of hit me in the feels. Um, but I think what sets us apart meeting us, you know as christians Is knowing that no matter how difficult how raw or how real things get we can we can trust god to get us through I was curious your thoughts on that like That aligns,

Jay: Yeah. I mean, I think anybody who's honest is going to admit that raw it, it is raw. It, it is raw and it is real. It's. Um, if it's easy, you're probably not doing something right.

Jason: yes,

Jay: Is that fair?

Jason: that is definitely fair.

Jay: Um, because every, according to the word, everything in the world is literally against us when we're serving God, they're going to hate you.

Jesus said, they're going to, they're going to ridicule you. They're going to revile you. They're going to kill you. Um, None of

Jason: it to me, they'll do it to you is what he told us.

Jay: None of that's changed. Um, we get ridiculed and reviled and killed in different ways in our culture than we ever did, uh, than they did back then. Back then it was more physical.

Now

Jason: there are some places where that still is a real thing. It's crazy.

Jay: Yeah. Here in the United States, we're blessed in that we really don't have to fear for our lives. Um, at least for the most part. I'm sure there's I'm sure there's instances and I'm not going to deny those, but

Jason: I'm trying to, so you, you came to me through Howard grip. Who came on last year around April. And I want to first, I don't know if he's going to listen to this, but I want to first thank Howard for sending you my direction. Um, and I'll tell him, I'll tell you what I told him. I do play a little guitar. Um, and when I say little, I mean, I probably know six chords and people don't scream when I play.

So we'll call that a win, but,

Jay: Hey, six chords is better than most worship leaders I know. So you're, you're on track.

Jason: Um, but I honestly love music and I wish I had more talent in it, but you definitely have an abundance. Of talent. I mean, how did you even get started with music?

Jay: I grew up in it. Um, so my household was, uh, so I'm the youngest of four kids and just being around the kitchen table. My dad would pull out the guitar after dinner and we would sing together, which. I thought that was normal because it happened all the time, but apparently that's really weird. And, um, yeah, we would sit, we would dad would literally, we'd finish dinner and I actually wrote a song about this, which I'm hoping to publish in around father's day.

It's, it's honoring my dad. Um, it's called remember the Tennessee waltz, but yeah, that that's, it's just one of those songs that hits me right in the fields, but because it's about my dad, so a little backstory, I lost my dad when I was 26. So I, it's been a long time since, since I had him in my life. Those formative years of after dinner, him pulling out the guitar, his, his little nylon string, six string guitar playing guitar.

My brother would, would have a guitar. Sometimes we would all sing, um, And we weren't, we didn't leave. It wasn't like we were rushing out of there. It was, this was, this was what we did as a family. And we'd all sing harmonies. We'd sing bluegrass. We'd sing some worship music. We might sing. My dad had these silly songs that his dad had taught him.

Like it sounded like vaudeville type songs, like take the neck from any old bottle, or I wish I was singly. It was these. really bad, not a good message songs, but they were hysterical. And they're just like part of my upbringing. And it's kind of funny, those, you know, the songs that still stick with me that I can hear in my dad's voice are fantastic.

Uh, but I grew up in it. And so it was only natural for me to, to walk out, walk that out. I think I wrote my first song when I was 12 years old. Um, I. I started singing in church younger than that. I mean, we had a kids choir and stuff like that. We had, I had a worship pastor back then who was, who was very much, um, involved in it.

He, he believed in sowing seeds into the, into the kids. So we had a really good kids choir. We had different bands and stuff like that within the church, even in just the kids and in the youth, which was, which was honestly really cool. Um, and then, um, so I just. It was just natural. That's what I always did.

I didn't know I was going to be doing, doing it like a career. I didn't, I, that was never really even a thought. It was just, I love music and I write music and I breathe music. And, and so that's, that's what I do. And, uh, I went into audio engineering as a career, which kind of compliments it. But to be honest, most of my audio engineering work has nothing to do with music.

It has to do with. with like talking heads and making, you know, you know, it's, it's just making sound happen. It has nothing to do with, with music production necessarily. Um, majority, I do a lot of music production too, but that that's, you know,

Jason: that's fun. That's fun.

Jay: so yeah, it was just such a natural thing for me to just move into it.

Jason: So it's just part of your DNA at

Jay: it really is. It really is. And again, that I didn't know that that was strange.

Jason: How many friends did you have over for dinner? And they're just like, what is happening?

Jay: Our friends would come over because of what was happening, I

Jason: Oh, that's so fun.

Jay: would participate, like, they knew that this was weird, but, they also didn't have the families at home that were actually having dinner together. Like, this was, we were strange in that we had dinner together. And then Not only that, but these, these, these people pull out guitars and play music after dinner and they don't sound like they don't sound like garbage.

These actually sound good. I mean, that's all three of those things are abnormal. I've come to find out. Um, cause I've heard a lot of people saying I've heard a lot of people attempt to sing.

Jason: it's a good, it's a good abnormal.

Jay: It really is. I it's it's a blessing to be able to look back on it. That's Christian. He's right a blessing. It's it.

I I love being able to think about those. It's bringing such joy to my heart to remember that those times and you know, and I feel like my dad created a like my mom and dad. They created this legacy and all of our kids. Not one of my siblings is not doing music and in some form or fashion. All of us. Uh, do music at our churches.

Um, my, my brother was a band director. Like he, he, uh, he just retired from a high school. He was, he was a high school band director. Um, and my, you know, my sister does it. She's, she's, I think going into missions now at, in, in, you know, as a second career, uh, my other sister is, so we, we all do music in some form of fashion and our, and our kids do it and our, and.

You know, so it's,

Jason: So I guess the question everyone's probably wondering now is, do you do that now with your own family?

Jay: so yes, I do. Um, when we, when we get together, we, we, it's, it's just natural. I'm like, all my kids are talented. All they, they all, we all sing together. Unfortunately, I don't get, I don't get to see my children as, as often as I would love to. But when we, when, you know, but it's, it's neat. Cause my, my, my My one kid is playing viola in the orchestra.

He played at the French embassy a few weeks ago for the opera. And I'm like, you're, you're, you're 18 years old. How are you doing this at this age already? Yeah, that's, that's my, my, where my head goes. It's like, it's really neat to see the legacy that I saw created by my parents, how that just drives through, uh, generations.

That's

Jason: that's amazing.

Inspiration and Songwriting Process

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Jason: So you had told me that you strive to connect with people through, I think you said authentic lyrics and powerful melodies, um, you seem to be all about using that creativity that God gave you to, to kind of help others with a deeper encounter with him. Um, and. I think, I think that's evident in your music, but where do you find the source of that inspiration?

Where do you, you know, do you just like something happens? You're like, that would make a great song or

Jay: Sometimes.

Jason: 2 am and you have a song.

Jay: Sometimes that too. Um, I, this, this right here is my, um, like, you know, the voice memos on there. There's hundreds of 3am or driving in the car, singing a melody into the phone real quick so that I don't forget it later. Cause that, that's one of the things like, Oh, that, that sounds pretty cool.

But if I don't record it, it never happened. Um, I've written. I've, I've, I've probably have written tens of thousands of little snippets and only hundreds are kill are actually Remembered, um, but, uh, yeah, to, to the inspiration is varied. Um, sometimes it's a dark place. Sometimes it's just, I'm going through something and, and the answer as God speaking it to me to help me.

Is what I put into song, you know, it's that, that sometimes that's just what it is. Um, like this, uh, for like, we're my newest song. I say, yes, that, that one is the whole picture of this, of this song is I was thinking about this. This wasn't like something that happened to me. This wasn't like that, but this was inspired by me thinking about Jesus walking through, through, uh, I can't remember the town, but when, when he was walking down in the, the people who are desolate and on the side of the road that, that.

Weren't calling out that, you know, there were people calling out and clamoring for Jesus to stop and, and, and heal them or touch them. And then there was those I can imagine in my mind, there was those that they didn't feel like they had the hope to be able to call out for, for that. They desperately wanted it, but they couldn't call out.

And then Jesus is there in front of you, you know, um, saying, do you believe me? Will you believe what I, what I, what I am saying to you? And, uh, that, that was the inspiration for that song. Just that image of. Of hopelessness when it meets Jesus becomes faith that that's, that's where that inspiration came from was just, just a thought exercise for lack of a better word.

Jason: That's great.

Discussion on 'Free Indeed' and 'I Say Yes'

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Jason: Now you, um, speaking of your songs, when you originally reached out, you had, you had a single out called free indeed. Um, you described it as, and I quote a funky celebration of freedom and hope. Uh, I won't disagree. It's it's a lot of fun. It's upbeat Um celebrates our freedom through christ.

Um, you know, i've even put it on my gym playlist Um, but tell us more about that song and then we'll get into your your new one I say yes

Jay: It's kind of, um, I think I heard somebody describe it as, uh, Doobie Brothers meets Steven Curtis Chapman. Um, um, which I, I'm like, all right, yeah, I can do, I can hear that. So,

Jason: can hear that.

Jay: right. Um, well, cause I stylistically, I love. I love all kinds of music. I, I, I grew up listening to, you know, Stevie Ray Vaughan and Steve, you know, um, uh, so the blues and, you know, Stevie Wonder and, you know, funk and

Jason: I can tell like going I've got I listened to a bunch of your songs And there's some contemporary there's some that are like kind of like christian rock. There's some Bluesy jazzy kind of stuff. It's all over the board and it makes it fun Like you never know what you're gonna get in the next song

Jay: And so, and that's what I found is my style. It's not, it's not that it's outside of a genre. It's just the genre is it's I try to keep it. It's stuff. I love it's it's like this. It's it might be rock. It might have a little bit of country to it. It might because that's what I grew up with. I, you know, I grew up playing saxophone.

So I love horn sections. I love the funk and all that stuff. You know, you give me some some earth, wind and fire. I'm like rock, you know, it's like. It's all those different things. Um, and plus the harmonies and all the, I love tight harmonies. Cause I grew up being forced to sing harmony because if you didn't sing a harmony in my household, your voice wasn't heard because there's six other people singing or five other people singing.

Jason: You can't get offset at somewhere

Jay: so I'm going to fit somewhere. Where could I get my harmony in?

Jason: I like it

Jay: but so free indeed, uh, as far as the, um. The thoughts behind the song is I, it started with the thought undignified. It was the thought of David in the Bible when he dances before the Ark of the covenant and his wife despises him because he that's a behavior, unbecoming a king.

Jason: Right.

Jay: and he decides he essentially doesn't care. He's going to dance all the more. And even if risking being undignified, I'm going to praise God. That's the entire idea behind free indeed. Um, is this might not look like something that. Undignified is the best word I can use to describe that. This might look undignified, but I am going to praise God because he has set me free because he, of all the things he did for me, because of, of what he pulled me out of, what he rescued me from, how could I not praise him

Jason: In the most undignified way manner.

Jay: if it, whatever it takes,

Jason: And I think you see that in worship, uh, at least at my church, you know, there are, there are people who are very conservative. They kind of sit there and shoulders go back and forth, like the, the uncomfortable rhythmic dance. Uh, then you have people putting their hands up, they're clapping, they're dancing in their chairs.

Um, and you can tell that those people have that freedom. Because they're they're not putting on a performance for anyone else. They're just raising their hands and praising praising god

Jay: amen, audience of one. That's that's the, and, and that's what I often remind myself is that none of this is about anybody that's. In the audience, this, this we're all there performing, performing for God, you know, air quotes around performing. Cause it's not really a performance. Um, as much as I am a firm believer in excellence, when it comes time to worship, it's not performance anymore.

Jason: and it reminds me of uh, I don't know if you ever watch that show touch by an angel

Jay: Years ago, I

Jason: so the, one of the main angels, uh, I think Monica, uh, couldn't sing and she always wanted to be able to sing. And there's a scene where she was with like this other, um, angel, I forget the name of it. And it wasn't one of the main characters, but she had said, you know, God, she'd reminded her that God, you know, wants us to sing out praise.

And she goes, but I can't sing very well. She's like, you don't have to sing well. He just wants you to sing out, you know, just raise your voice to him. Yeah.

Jay: Make a joy. Yep.

Jason: so that that reminded me of that a little bit

Jay: I think about like when, when people say stuff like that, I think about when, you know, I I'm a dad, I've got four kids when they were little and they were, would try to sing or do something. And it really wasn't good, but. The joy it still brought me, that they were trying to do the thing, whatever it was, it could be singing, playing an instrument, you name it, it doesn't matter what they did, but the fact that they were trying, is what brought joy to my heart, and I feel like God's that way,

Jason: yeah, absolutely.

Jay: trying, the fact that we are, our intention is to do something that honors him, that's gotta bring joy to our father's heart,

Jason: Absolutely. Um, so you your new single drop january 17th. I say yes Um if it's okay with you, we're gonna go ahead and listen to that here in a second

Jay: yeah,

Jason: but you described that one as Following the momentum of free indeed. I think with an updated christian contemporary music ballad that blends the best artists like brendan heath matthew s Matthew west and steve And again, I agree with you free indeed gets you really amped up and then I say, yes, we'll drive right into your heart.

Jay: ha ha,

Jason: just feels like this big hug from God. It's great, but, but, you know, listeners don't have to take my word for it. Um, so if you're all right with that, I'll go ahead and play that song

Jay: absolutely, let's do it.

Jason: I have no words like um, it's just a great song. Uh, I you know, I I think everyone after listening to that kind of no one inspired it. So tell us more

Jay: Well, um, I talked about it a little bit already, but it's like, um, I wanted this song to be, uh, you, you said, you said something that just touched my heart a minute ago that it feels like a warm hug. Um, when I went, when I. Discussing this with, with my producer and, you know, I was like, this song's supposed to be like a warm, fuzzy thing.

This isn't supposed to be hard. It's supposed to like wrap you up. That's what this song is supposed to be. It's supposed to be, um, it's supposed to demonstrate the love of God, reaching down into your dirt and into your grime and pulling you out. That's what the song is supposed to be. Um, And, and I feel like, I feel like it hits like it, it's, and, and I don't mean like it hits like it's, you know, that's, that's a hit.

I mean, it hits the mark. It, I've heard so many reports from people about how this song has just ministered to them, how, how they felt, they identify with that person who is, who's in the dust, stained and broken and, um, and how they, you know, without hope and just to hear someone. Tell them if they've never heard it before or remind them that just saying yes can change everything for you.

Just saying yes to Jesus can change everything in your life. Um, that, that's, to me, if, if one person, if one person's life gets changed by that message, then that's a success.

Jason: Yeah, I will say you 100 percent nailed it. Um, you know, you've got a lot of great songs. I, you know, I've, I've put on, I put on your playlist and Spotify, uh, listen to a bunch of them and there's a lot of fun, a lot of serious, a lot of great songs, um, But I say this is by far one of the best things I've heard, uh, period, it just, it is really good.

So,

Jay: Thank you so much. I appreciate that.

Jason: yeah, absolutely. Um, now you answered this before you said you, you know, you write a lot of songs. Do you write all of your own music? Do you ever co write? Did you ever work with others? Um,

Jay: uh, most of the stuff that I have released so far is solo write, solo writing. But I have, uh, started to do some co-writes with people. Um, one of the songs off my new ep, which is gonna be coming sometime this spring, uh, I was able to co-write with, uh, with, uh, man named, uh, Rob Frazier. I, I did some co-writing with Kobe James.

Um, so I, yeah, I am, I am starting to do some more co-writes. I love co-writing. I never did it before and I just started doing it. Um. And what a difference it makes. It's, it's so interesting to me that you go into a room with, with your ideas and they come in with their ideas. And then all of a sudden this third idea forms out of nowhere, um, and takes the best of the two things and turns it into something incredible.

I love it. I really enjoy co writing. Um. But I haven't done enough of it yet. So I'm, I'm, I've done some and I'm looking forward to doing a lot more.

Upcoming Projects and Final Thoughts

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Jason: now you you answer this a little bit with the song the tribute to your dad But what what can we expect next from jay davids?

Jay: So I honestly, I, I just received my master's back for my next release, which is called good, bad day. And, um, so I've been getting to listen to it for about a week now, but nobody else has gotten to listen to it just yet. Um, And it is a fun, retro pop rock tune. Um, I think everyone's gonna love it. It is, it's called Good Bad Day.

It is about, um, choosing every day to, no matter what happens in your life, to choose to look at it and to thank God for it. And to, um, it could be a good day, it could be a bad day, but it's gonna be a good bad day.

Jason: Yeah. Thank you god for the for the blessings. Thank you god for the lessons

Jay: Exactly, exactly. So I'm super excited about that. I really off of my new EP. That's so this is the third release from my new EP and it's coming out March 21st.

Um, so

Jason: we'll look forward to that

Jay: 21st. Good, bad day. Um, You'll be able to find some teasers on social media and stuff like that over the next weeks as, as we, uh, you'll get to hear little parts of it, um, uh, moving forward. So that's, that's that, but that is the next release, but then there will be, uh, it's a, it's a six song EP that we're, that I'm working on.

And so that'll be coming out. Um, what is, that was, uh, March, so probably April or May, uh, is when the rest of the EP will drop. And, uh, there's some worship on there and there's some, there's some other really neat stuff coming. Um, and then I've got the song that I, um, that I wrote for my dad that, that will be, uh, coming out.

Remember the Tennessee Will. So I've got, I've got a few things planned for this year. Um, and, uh, it's, it's exciting. I, I'm just like, I I'm super excited about the momentum that I'm seeing happen. Um, it's, it's a piece at a time. It's a step at a time. It's not like some overwhelming thing that I can say I've had, you know, huge, whatever success, but I'm seeing momentum.

And to me, that's, that is the success is being able to just keep that, keep that rolling and let, uh, um, I, I, I heard a guy say years ago that if you can, it's about momentum, it's not about. Some big accomplishment if you can get the ball rolling if you can get something moving. It's hard to stop it. So So momentum is the thing and that's that goes in life that goes in ministry that goes in in this so So yeah, this year's gonna be a good year.

I've got at least like I said at least four more songs planned right now I've actually got more like six or eight In the hopper. So, um, it's, it's going to be good. Yeah. I'm even thinking about doing a Christmas thing this, this

Jason: would be

Jay: So we'll, we'll see what, what comes of that. But, uh, yeah, so it's, it's, it, I'm excited.

I'm, I'm going to be doing a, uh, there's a music festival I'll be doing called sweatshirt of hope and that's in Pennsylvania, um, in Southerton, Pennsylvania, I'll be doing that in, I believe that's in August, but I might have the date wrong. It might be September. I'm not sure. Um, I've got that

Jason: Google's for all

Jay: yeah, exactly, exactly.

Um, And so I've got a couple of other possibilities coming up for, for some festivals and stuff like that. But that stuff, you never know if you're gonna, if you're gonna do a lot of those or a couple of those or one. So you just, you just keep plugging away.

Jason: right.

Jay: Yeah, that's what's on the horizon for me.

Jason: Jay has been such an honor to have you on today. You know, if you're ever in Arizona, definitely hit me up. Um, love to love to buy you a beer or something. I don't know. Um, before we go, do you have any last words for the listeners? Any final message?

Jay: I do. Um, my, my mission Is to is the idea of that. God wants to restore, um, fathers to children, children to fathers, um, brokenness to healing. Um, that that's, that's the whole thrust and push for the songs. And for the ministry, if you, if you've seen me live, that's what I talk about is God wants to restore us.

And I don't want, I, what I, my message for people is there is hope there is, I don't care how broken you are. I don't care how, how depressed you are, what dark place you are in. God can take you from there and he can set you on a mountain. And his, he is in the business of restoration. He can make dead things come to life.

So there is hope in that. So that's my, that's my mission. That's my message. And I always like to leave people with that.

Jason: Amen, uh, if you have enjoyed his music, I don't know why you wouldn't but if you've enjoyed his music Um, please visit his website again. https://jaydavids.com Um go research him on your favorite music app. You'll find his links in my show notes along with his social media links You'll also find my stuff there my website by social media links.

So be sure to come visit me as well Like jay follow jay like me follow me. It's real easy Until next time, uh, keep loving your neighbors Dive into god's word daily. May the lord bless you and keep you and fill you with this peace So god bless the listeners god bless you jay. Thank you.

Jay: Thank you. God bless you as well.

Jason: All right. We'll see you in the next episode

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