We are infinite beings that exist throughout many timelines. Being a Master of oneself means being a Master of one's Time. Time is the measurement of your literal motion through the cosmos, and if you aren't in control of it, your environment is. And if your environment is chaos, what will be the condition of your state of mind? You will become dissatisfied, and how you handle this dissatisfaction will determine your fate. Join Brother Adam X and Brother Amin Muhammad as they diagnose the devil of dissatisfaction and produce a cure.
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Speaker A: rd, and the year of our Lord: Speaker A:Sound like a soldier?
Speaker A:I feel good, man.
Speaker B:Definitely 111 is the angel number.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Had to look it up real quick.
Speaker A:Triple ones.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Almost halfway through the calendar year.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And we're got a lot of momentum.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I've been feeling pretty angelic this week.
Speaker B:A lot of sacrifices on my part to, like, make sure that other people are straight.
Speaker A:That's the work.
Speaker B:That's the work.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:It's all sacrifice.
Speaker A:But then if you do sacrifice with service to him, then it doesn't hurt.
Speaker A:It doesn't hurt?
Speaker B:No, it doesn't.
Speaker A:It feels.
Speaker A:It feels good.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:I am here to serve.
Speaker B:So what else do I have but time and energy to sacrifice?
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker A:And before this podcast, I was up pushing in the Watt Hacienda housing projects down in Watts.
Speaker A:So getting in.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Beautiful time.
Speaker A:It was beautiful down there, too.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah, They've done some magical things in Watts.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Watts feels like heaven.
Speaker A:It feels very peaceful down there, man.
Speaker A:It's crazy.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Very quaint, very peaceful, very.
Speaker A:Lots of nature, open space.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:It was shocking.
Speaker B:This is about time.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker B:Been a while.
Speaker B:Of the opposite.
Speaker A:You would know better than me.
Speaker A:All right, let's open up.
Speaker A:Malik yomidin.
Speaker A:O Allah, in the name of Allah, the Benevis is the most merciful.
Speaker A:All praise is due to Allah, the Lord of the worlds, the beneficent, the most merciful, and master of the day of Judgment, the alone do we serve Thee, Alone do we beseech for divine aid.
Speaker A:Guide us on the right path, the path upon whom thou hast owed favors not upon whom Thy wrath has been brought down, nor upon those who go astray.
Speaker A:Oh, Allah, guide this conversation, guide our prose, loosen the knot from our tongues and have us speak on the topics that you would like us to speak upon as you guide this episode, like you always do.
Speaker A:We love and serve you alone as we build thy kingdom.
Speaker A:I mean.
Speaker A:I mean, so, yeah, speaking of service.
Speaker A:So tonight, so, like, probably like, eight Seven brothers, J.
Speaker A:Eight was out there.
Speaker B:That's what's up.
Speaker A:Which is dope, cuz.
Speaker A:You was talking to him earlier today.
Speaker B:He was probably on the phone with me while he was out there with y'.
Speaker A:All.
Speaker A:Is that who he was talking to?
Speaker A:That's what was going.
Speaker A:I didn't know that was you.
Speaker A:He was on the phone manning the truth while talking to you on the phone about some other stuff.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker A:Small world.
Speaker A:So it was him?
Speaker A:Brother Joan Elijah was out there.
Speaker A:This is brother Wendell.
Speaker A:Who else?
Speaker A:Brother Light Skin has just, he came in, he's come in the nation strong.
Speaker A:He's like me when I first joined.
Speaker A:Just like pushing every day, posting in the field every day.
Speaker A:And he's light skinned too.
Speaker A:You know what I'm talking about?
Speaker B:I probably do.
Speaker A:I post him on the page all the time.
Speaker A:I said it's the like the yellow brother, what's his name?
Speaker A:Brother.
Speaker B:Not good with names.
Speaker A:Yeah, me neither.
Speaker A:But he was out there.
Speaker A:But yeah, no, it was just a solid military maneuver through the Hacienda, Malging projects and Watts.
Speaker A:And it reminded me of like how much I love being in a military.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Because we're in a military.
Speaker A:It's very simple.
Speaker A:You follow the command.
Speaker A:It's a very clear chain of command.
Speaker B:Gives you a little bit of reprieve from having to be, you know, everything that's right.
Speaker A:It's, it's a relief.
Speaker A:And you know, when you come from the, the chaotic world, it, there's like, there's, there's feedback when you join the ranks, obviously your rebelliousness, your, your rebelliousness gets run out.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Because you haven't, you're, you're forced to submit to the orders of a black man in the Nation of Islam.
Speaker A:And we're not used to that.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So there's like a recalibration period from going to the world into the structure.
Speaker A:But once you start, once you submit to the structure and order that is a Nation of Islam and you start drilling and you start moving in the field and going door to door with Final Call newspapers, it literally like changes your spiritual and genetic DNA to be a soldier for Allah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:You know, Panda, it's just, it brings me back to memories of before adulthood versus having, you know, as a child you don't have no responsibilities.
Speaker B:So lining up into that structure was just frustrating.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:But as an adult, when you go into that, that structure, it's peaceful because now you have responsibilities and you have all these other people depending on you versus being in that situation.
Speaker B:You're just following instructions.
Speaker B:Very simple.
Speaker B:It just cuts away at all the noise.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker B:You know, very ju.
Speaker B:Position.
Speaker B:While you were talking about it, I was just flashing between the two worlds.
Speaker B:Cuz you've never experienced it as a child.
Speaker A:No, not at all.
Speaker B:You've only ever experienced it as a reprieve.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:This is interesting.
Speaker A:I could have.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:I, I in, you know, I, I was making meant to experience for a reason.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So I could, I could imagine that from, you know, someone like you who was born in it.
Speaker A:Hearing someone like me speaking about the fact that the system works is validating for you.
Speaker B:It is.
Speaker A:All those years in the trenches were not in vain, sir.
Speaker A:You were the, the foundation that led it to here.
Speaker A:And you were the bridge.
Speaker B:I wouldn't say the foundation.
Speaker B:I'm, I'm a, a stack on the layer facts.
Speaker A:You're part of the bridge that led it to, that led me to the Nation of Islam.
Speaker A:And you are, you are one of the many reasons why the Nation of Islam was still standing.
Speaker A:For me to join and fall in the ranks, bro.
Speaker B:I'm a part of that.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:You're cog in that machine.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker A:And now we're both cogs in the machine for the people that we're going to be ushering in to build the kingdom of heaven.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And it's.
Speaker A:I love falling in ranks because it automatically puts you in the mindset of Allah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And you oneness and you feel it.
Speaker A:It's peace.
Speaker A:It's heaven.
Speaker A:To be in a state of freedom.
Speaker A:Peace in the housing projects of Los Angeles.
Speaker A:It is a very beautiful thing.
Speaker A:I took good pictures.
Speaker A:I'm probably going to post them.
Speaker A:Like it's, it was beautiful.
Speaker A:The sun was out, birds are tripping.
Speaker A:There was cats running around.
Speaker A:It was beautiful.
Speaker A:They had people like really had nice gardens in the projects, bro.
Speaker A:Like they was doing it mostly Mexican.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Like probably I would say 80% Mexican Latino.
Speaker A:But you know, it's just, that's what it is.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:You were in the Hacienda project.
Speaker A:That makes sense.
Speaker A:Have you heard of them?
Speaker A:Is that.
Speaker B:I've heard it.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So I can't remember the other ones.
Speaker B:It wasn't Jordan Downs.
Speaker A:Yeah, Jordan Downs.
Speaker A:Nickerson is Jordan Downs.
Speaker A:Hacienda.
Speaker A:Yeah, it was Hacienda.
Speaker A:It seemed, just seemed nice.
Speaker A:It's a nice project.
Speaker B:They got a couple of them.
Speaker B:That's nice.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Very simple.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So it was gardens, cats, birds, butterflies.
Speaker B:Just heaven overload.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And we was, we was doing general orders.
Speaker A:We was marching in rank.
Speaker A:And I'm gonna like My experience tonight was just having joy and walking in a perfectly straight line with the brothers, you know, and then going to corners, doing left faces and turning to corners perfectly.
Speaker A:Doing right faces.
Speaker A:Turn the right corners perfectly.
Speaker B:It's been a while for me, bro.
Speaker A:Very.
Speaker A:I understand.
Speaker A:But very simple.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And also getting off final call newspapers.
Speaker A:It was very, ah, just refreshing.
Speaker A:Like, kind of like pushes off all of our.
Speaker A:Because we have worries and concerns of the.
Speaker A:In the physical universe.
Speaker A:You know, you and I, we get.
Speaker A:We both share stuff you got to.
Speaker B:Handle, but you get to get into that meditative state.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Flow state.
Speaker A:Flow state and flow state.
Speaker A:I get in float.
Speaker A:I get in my best flow states.
Speaker A:When we're doing the work.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:When we're doing this, when I'm pushing.
Speaker A:When I'm making content for the podcast and I'm pushing it out, I get in my flow state, bro.
Speaker A:And I'm starting to realize, okay, very soon our whole lives are going to be flow state.
Speaker B:That's the goal.
Speaker A:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And I spoke to you, I think, like last week about just being mindful that.
Speaker A:Of people who are trying to put us on their time.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:I think it was like a week ago.
Speaker A:And I'm.
Speaker A:After tonight, I saw.
Speaker A:I stand firmly in that we're on a lost time.
Speaker A:So not saying that we're better than anybody, but.
Speaker B:But when you have a.
Speaker B:When you have a bigger goal, people get out the way.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:They understand that they can't maneuver you onto their goal because their goal is small.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:It's just about them.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:When you start talking, I want to save the world.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:They're like, do you.
Speaker A:I don't even think it's like.
Speaker A:I think it's just like, oh, wow, I got.
Speaker A:I gotta stand down.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:You know?
Speaker A:You feel me?
Speaker B:No.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:I don't even think it's like.
Speaker A:I think it's really just.
Speaker A:Oh, man, I can't.
Speaker B:I can't do nothing with that.
Speaker A:I can't.
Speaker A:What am.
Speaker A:I can't.
Speaker A:I'm not going to compete with that.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker A:These brothers are trying to rehabilitate the black man on planet Earth.
Speaker A:Like what?
Speaker B:I mean, there's.
Speaker B:There's people who understand it that way, but there's also people who want to make jokes.
Speaker B:People who want to.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:People like, oh, you're crazy.
Speaker B:I got it.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:You know, it's all of it.
Speaker B:I get different, you know, but I don't shy away from what my work is.
Speaker B:I'm open and honest because it's like, what's the point?
Speaker B:I don't have nobody to impress nobody there that I care about their opinion.
Speaker B:You ask me what I do.
Speaker B:This is what I do.
Speaker B:I try to say the world.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker A:No, absolutely.
Speaker A:And it's you're right.
Speaker A:It's not all sunshine, rainbows.
Speaker A:It's a lot of hate.
Speaker A:It's a lot of.
Speaker A:But it's also.
Speaker A:It's fear.
Speaker A:Like, people fear.
Speaker A:It's fear.
Speaker B:It's mostly.
Speaker A:It's mostly fear when people see that.
Speaker A:Oh, you're actually doing that.
Speaker B:Is that.
Speaker B:That's your goal?
Speaker B:That sounds crazy.
Speaker A:Yeah, it sounds crazy, but it also makes me, like, reflect on myself and what am I doing?
Speaker B:Yeah, really.
Speaker A:Like, what am I doing?
Speaker A:I'm on Tinder.
Speaker A:I'm chasing.
Speaker B:I can't.
Speaker A:I'm drinking every day.
Speaker B:Yeah, that's.
Speaker B:I can't do that.
Speaker B:That's.
Speaker B:That's impossible.
Speaker A:That's impossible.
Speaker A:So the fact that you're actually on that path makes me uncomfortable.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So instead of grappling with the insecurity within, I'm going to try to take you down.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah, Right.
Speaker A:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:That's what it comes down to.
Speaker A:It's like, ah, I don't like you on that pedestal.
Speaker A:What can I.
Speaker A:What kind of slick can I say to get you off that pedestal at least a notch?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:No, for real.
Speaker B:Just make you trip a little bit.
Speaker B:So I could prove you're not as great as you think that you are.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And I could just be.
Speaker A:Be more comfortable living my comfortable life without any purpose.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Because when your purpose dwarfs another's reality, then you're not giving them much to work with, especially if their intention is to knock you down.
Speaker A:So I think the takeaway with this is.
Speaker A:I mean, I'm preaching the choir.
Speaker A:I was like, just stay wedded to our purpose.
Speaker A:Like that.
Speaker A:That's.
Speaker A:That's our cheat code, bro.
Speaker A:It's like, no matter what we do, no matter how we, like, project what we're doing, you know what we're about?
Speaker A:You know, we are about the.
Speaker A:The resurrection of the black man of America to usher in the kingdom of heaven.
Speaker A:That's the goal with the minister.
Speaker A:We're the honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan.
Speaker A:First and foremost, we are serve him.
Speaker A:He is the Messiah and we're with him, period.
Speaker A:That's what it is.
Speaker B:I talk about the book, the four Agreements.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:But I talk about it a lot because it shot me light years beyond other people's opinion.
Speaker B:And their ability to, like, move me.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Like, I talk about how I live in that version of reality because it's so crystal clear for me.
Speaker B:So it's like when you see something that's a fact.
Speaker B:Now for you, somebody telling you that that's not possible is just wrong.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:You're just wrong.
Speaker B:Absolutely nothing you could do about that.
Speaker B:Like, I have no intention on continuing to argue with somebody who's just wrong.
Speaker A:Because you're impeccable with your word.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker A:And word is bond.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And what you.
Speaker A:What we literally say becomes physical reality, especially in the mathematics that we perform is we put it out there for.
Speaker A:So not only are we making agreements with ourselves.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And Allah, we're making agreements with thousands and tens of thousands of people who are listening to our voices.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Because they're hearing us and be like, okay, I'm going to see if they're actually going to do it.
Speaker A:So it's a way of holding ourselves accountable, but also making it more of a reality.
Speaker A:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:Because before physical reality becomes physicality, it has to exist.
Speaker A:Exist in the mind of a human being, or any being for that matter.
Speaker B:So that's the way God created the universe we currently live in.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker B:Existing in his mind.
Speaker A:So we are putting.
Speaker A:Fast tracking the imagery of what we want to put out there in as many minds as possible and leveling up on our conversations to build that reality.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Because even the people that are hating on it are imagining it to hate on it.
Speaker A:It's all energy.
Speaker A:And if you and I.
Speaker A:Art of warfare, all energy can be used to build the kingdom.
Speaker A:All energy can, can and should be used.
Speaker A:And the.
Speaker A:In martial arts, when you use your enemy's force against you to.
Speaker A:To propel your next motion.
Speaker A:That's called kazushi, where you just.
Speaker A:You take that energy and you make your.
Speaker A:You redirect and perform your next move and trump your enemy.
Speaker A:Like, that's, That's.
Speaker A:That's pretty much what judo is.
Speaker A:That's because it's called Tsukuzushi.
Speaker A:Just the.
Speaker A:The exchange of energy, the exchange of intention.
Speaker A:So we gotta look at it as like, all.
Speaker A:All flow is good flow.
Speaker A:All flow is flow.
Speaker A:Every knock is a boost.
Speaker A:We bring it in, we take it into the.
Speaker A:The chamber, we alchemize it, turn it into Allah, and then boom.
Speaker B:I'm trying to remember that it's our magic.
Speaker B:The Kanye west quote, he's like, he loves his haters because he uses their gas as the steam to.
Speaker B:I don't remember the exact words.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, that's it.
Speaker A:And I think his dreams.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And I think, you know, nothing.
Speaker A:Nothing against my brother, Kanye.
Speaker A:Yeezy.
Speaker A:Yay.
Speaker A:But I think we're like a cut above that mentality because we're not.
Speaker A:We're not taking the hating personal.
Speaker A:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:Like, we're not using that energy, the ant, the animosity, the anti.
Speaker A:Whatever we got going on to.
Speaker A:To.
Speaker A:To get back at them with our success.
Speaker A:You feel what I'm saying?
Speaker B:Well, it doesn't have anything to do with us or them.
Speaker B:It's like this is what is.
Speaker B:And what they understand is their limitation.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And I'm not affected by their limitation.
Speaker A:Not at all.
Speaker A:You know, not at all.
Speaker B:I got something to do.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:If I got to use a bathroom and you telling me I can't use a bathroom, I'm going to use the bathroom.
Speaker B:Whether I use.
Speaker A:That's it.
Speaker B:Or not is up to you.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:I gotta use the bathroom.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:But my point is that we don't use this animosity is to fuel vendetta energy.
Speaker B:I don't care about that.
Speaker B:All.
Speaker A:All this energy is channeled to LA la.
Speaker A:It's like we're just.
Speaker A:Okay, more towards the purpose.
Speaker A:And it.
Speaker A:It works.
Speaker A:You and I are both.
Speaker A:I think we're becoming masses in that art of taking that energy and alchemizing into.
Speaker A:Oh, well, look at our purpose.
Speaker A:No matter what you throw at us, you're just going to bring more attention to the mission we got going on.
Speaker A:And by the way, you're more than welcome to join us in this mission.
Speaker A:You feel me?
Speaker A:It's not like we're going to take the hate and be like, well, you can't join us.
Speaker A:Like, nope, we'll take the hate, make the mission more pronounced, and then open the door wide open and be like, yo, come join us.
Speaker A:The door is wide open.
Speaker B:You've been around from the beginning hate.
Speaker B:Now you see it happening.
Speaker B:What you going to do?
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker A:And I think, like, the.
Speaker A:The best haters probably become the best service.
Speaker A:You know, like, all in the Bible.
Speaker A:He, before he came, Paul, he was a hater.
Speaker A:He hated Jesus.
Speaker B:My mom told me, or my mom and one of my mentors, brother Marlon, they both told me that the reason why they ended up joining the Nation of Islam is because they couldn't prove nothing wrong.
Speaker B:It's like they saw it.
Speaker B:It was like, no, not possible.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:And they tried to prove it wrong.
Speaker B:And that made them into the, the, the staunch followers that they are to this day.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker A:You gotta, you gotta like get your.
Speaker A:If you, you're like a, if you're skeptical.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:As a scientist, you should be.
Speaker A:Wait, God came in person.
Speaker B:Prove it.
Speaker A:Facts.
Speaker A:That should be the first thing on your mind.
Speaker A:Yeah, it should.
Speaker A:The very.
Speaker A:How do you know?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:And then you, you get the, the treaties, the supreme wisdom, you hear the story and you do your own research and then it's your job to disprove it.
Speaker A:Because we're stating we know the truth.
Speaker A:This is the truth.
Speaker A:Look at what this work.
Speaker A:And this truth has, has produced it.
Speaker A:Literally the knowledge that we talked about, this has produced hip hop.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:It has produced Malcolm X, it has produced the minister, it has produced this inc.
Speaker A:This incarnation of both you and I, Malcolm X, amongst many other brothers and sisters.
Speaker A:So we have evidence that this, this, this philosophy, this truth works.
Speaker A:It is up to you to disprove it.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And by all means, try as you might try.
Speaker A:You should try as you might because the more you try, the stronger you make the people who believe.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Because we either gonna have to defend or prove wrong.
Speaker A:But regardless, all energy is going to be used for the highest and common good, which is the truth.
Speaker A:So by you rebelling and then you trying to disprove it is only going to make it stronger.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So it's in your mind, I think in, in the physical universe.
Speaker B:Well, let alone in the universe.
Speaker B:But it's going to make it stronger in your mind.
Speaker B:The more you learn about what it is we talking about, the more you understand and the stronger you become.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:In it, you become a believer.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker A:Even if you try to kamikaze and crash out on the truth, you're going to have to resurrect yourself to a new creation to figure it out.
Speaker A:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:I mean the truth will always or just.
Speaker A:Or just run away from it for the rest of your life.
Speaker A:But that's the.
Speaker B:That's insanity.
Speaker A:I'm sure there are many people that have chosen that path.
Speaker A:Absolutely many people.
Speaker A:Because once you're.
Speaker A:Once you're presented with truth of this caliber and this, this power.
Speaker B:Undeniable truth.
Speaker A:Undeniable truth.
Speaker A:You're faced with a choice.
Speaker A:And your choice is submit, get down or lay down.
Speaker A:Or flee.
Speaker B:Yeah, flee.
Speaker A:And honestly, that pathway is hell and insanity.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And I've seen people that have thought.
Speaker A:Because I, I presented the truth to many people and I, the people that I've seen fleeing.
Speaker A:They're alive, but I can't say that they're doing well.
Speaker B:Your.
Speaker B:Your best bet is to not listen at all and not get any inkling of it and then just, like, pretend like it doesn't exist.
Speaker B:Because once you hear it, it's dangerous.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:It's dangerous.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And that's why, you know, the final call is so important, you know?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Because we got to just always be in people's faces giving them the choice.
Speaker A:You got to choose.
Speaker A:You got to choose.
Speaker A:This is what it is.
Speaker A:You can't ignore it.
Speaker A:The truth doesn't care about your feelings, is always going to be there, and you running from it is only going to postpone your demise.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So it is our job to consistently put that out there.
Speaker A:Not like.
Speaker A:Not tuck it, just be like, you see all this other stuff we're doing, but the end of the day, you know what we're standing on, and we're not backing down from that truth because it's our.
Speaker A:It's literally our job as 5 percenters FOI to broadcast this truth consistently and let people know.
Speaker A:This is the get down.
Speaker A:We are presenting you the keys, the doorway to heaven.
Speaker A:All you got to do is submit and get with the program and you can get in heaven just by studying.
Speaker A:Just like the sister who made this beautiful tea for a sister.
Speaker A:What's her name?
Speaker B:Samar Garden.
Speaker B:Sister Sarah made the tea.
Speaker A:Sister Sarah.
Speaker A:Sister Sarah Rose, I believe, out of Connecticut, white sister made this tea.
Speaker A:Very close with us.
Speaker A:We sell her teas the store.
Speaker A:But she's with the get down.
Speaker A:She understands the truth and she doesn't have any qualms or any ego about it at all.
Speaker A:So shout out to Sister Sarah.
Speaker A:Rose's tea is delicious, man.
Speaker B:And sponsored this episode.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker A:But because she is submitted to the truth and has now, from what I could see, committed her life to broadcasting the reality and the truth of the minister mass from Muhammad to the masses.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And to her people.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:She's going to be rewarded for it.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I think her page is witness bearer19.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:At Instagram.
Speaker A:Wish witness bearer19.
Speaker A:So, like I said, like, there's no.
Speaker A:There's no discrimination here.
Speaker A:It's like the truth does not discriminate.
Speaker A:So get with the get down.
Speaker A:Understand, learn.
Speaker A:And then once you do that, you don't enlighten the next person.
Speaker B:They don't say, the black knees will bow, the black ears will hear.
Speaker B:It says every ear will hear.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:Every knee will bow.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:Huh.
Speaker A:And the God we serve, who came in human form in a.
Speaker A:What looks from the outside to look like a white body.
Speaker A:His father was a black man.
Speaker A:His mother was a Caucasian.
Speaker A:Came in that form to get the people.
Speaker A:And he does not discriminate.
Speaker A:You know, he made it very clear that he.
Speaker A:That he has found us and chosen us as the people to usher in the kingdom.
Speaker A:But all are invited who submit to the truth.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Our God is not a hater.
Speaker B:Not at all.
Speaker B:Give justice to everybody who deserves it.
Speaker B:Good in a good way and a bad way.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker A:And he came in that, in that form and fashion to give justice to both worlds.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And what better form and what to do that to come as a white presenting black man reading a book.
Speaker A:That's what he is.
Speaker A:He is the judge.
Speaker A:He is also the, the facilitator of the world that is to come.
Speaker A:And that is who we serve in this hour.
Speaker A:That's the one that's in charge.
Speaker A:That is the supreme being.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Of this, this iteration of time.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker A:And for the foreseeable future.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Scientists couldn't predict what was going to come after him.
Speaker A:No, sir.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And you know, having been in service to him tonight, I just, I don't feel like all.
Speaker A:I feel like it's just all I have to do is tell the truth.
Speaker A:You know, I don't gotta force anyone to do anything.
Speaker A:All I gotta do is walk my post in a perfect manner, keeping always on the alert, and then just tell the truth for what it is.
Speaker B:Yes, sir.
Speaker A:I don't gotta apologize for it.
Speaker A:I just gotta live it.
Speaker A:Be the clean glass and keep it pushing.
Speaker A:Keep working.
Speaker A:Take care of my children.
Speaker B:Absolutely.
Speaker B:That's it.
Speaker A:And then make sure that I reflect the teachings that we've been taught.
Speaker B:To the best of your ability.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:That's the job.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And so that's what I, you know, that's what I got tonight is just a, A beautiful, I guess, recalibration of service.
Speaker A:I didn't, I didn't, I didn't fall off my posts.
Speaker A:I try to post the minister every day, but now I'm just very clear.
Speaker A:It's like that's, that's the first word, man.
Speaker B:That's.
Speaker B:I mean, that's what an angel does, right?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:An angel submits to God's will.
Speaker B:And so that's what our goal is as angels.
Speaker A:That is what our goal is.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:We have to do God's bidding.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:We have to get, we have to get the people.
Speaker A:We have to Get.
Speaker A:Wake up.
Speaker A:Wake up the people to deliver the good news.
Speaker B:Lift.
Speaker A:God, that's right.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:It's a beautiful thing.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Feels good.
Speaker A:It feels amazing.
Speaker B:Feels like you got wings.
Speaker A:That's exactly what it felt like tonight, bro.
Speaker A:Like.
Speaker A:No, it was.
Speaker A:It was a very clean and beautiful night.
Speaker A:There was not.
Speaker A:And I was.
Speaker A:I honestly wasn't.
Speaker A:You know, I came home, I felt so good.
Speaker A:I, I.
Speaker A:You didn't text me, so I didn't think you were coming over.
Speaker A:I think it was going to be a podcast.
Speaker A:I was like, okay, today was a good night.
Speaker A:Today was a win.
Speaker A:And then I saw you come out of nowhere, literally like an angel, just come walking up my street.
Speaker A:And I was like, who's that black man?
Speaker A:Oh.
Speaker B:Oh.
Speaker A:I guess we're doing a podcast tonight.
Speaker A:Even better.
Speaker B:All praises.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:You know, and we.
Speaker A:And we got.
Speaker A:We have goals.
Speaker A:I'm not saying that we're completely disbanding our.
Speaker A:Our worldly goals.
Speaker A:We want.
Speaker A:We want the farm, we want the land.
Speaker A:That's what I'm working diligently upon.
Speaker A:But, you know, if we can't.
Speaker A:If we can't speak upon the truth, if we can't do what we're supposed to do is FYI, then how do we expect to do the bigger and greater things?
Speaker A:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:Absolutely.
Speaker A:And that's what it.
Speaker A:That's what it reminded me to.
Speaker A:Not as.
Speaker A:Like, you got to get our basics in right.
Speaker A:All.
Speaker A:All of us and you and I, both, you.
Speaker A:We've always been soldiers, but we learn the hard way is like, okay, the further we get away from the truth, the further we get away from service, like, okay, the harder life is.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So the weight builds up.
Speaker A:It builds up.
Speaker A:It makes it harder to deal with stuff.
Speaker A:But, you know, this.
Speaker A:The solution to that is going back to service.
Speaker B:Stay in service.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Don't leave service, bro.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And it's a beautiful thing that we're able to.
Speaker A:This podcast.
Speaker A:I was saying that each of these episodes is.
Speaker A:It's like an album that we could chop up and just feed it, but, like, I. I now operate with.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:How do we move this podcast in a way to get our people.
Speaker A:You know, I've been doing that last past.
Speaker A:Definitely this past, like, couple months, but I see the.
Speaker A:I think you and I both feel the change in our lives spiritually about how things are flowing well.
Speaker B:No, absolutely.
Speaker A:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:Like, it's been very.
Speaker B:The chaos doesn't stop.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:But the way that I respond to the chaos Is very different.
Speaker A:Very, very different.
Speaker B:The way that, you know, I'm, I'm able to like, observe everything and not necessarily I'm affected, but not necessarily be changed because I understand what I'm doing and what, what the mission is right now.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:You know, I can, I can, I can flow through the chaos.
Speaker A:And I think I had like a picture of tornadoes.
Speaker A:Like, we're, we're still surrounded by tornadoes.
Speaker B:Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker A:But I really feel like we're able to walk through them and just be, and not get caught up in the whirlwind.
Speaker A:You feel what I'm saying?
Speaker B:I, I, I feel the pull of tornado is such a perfect.
Speaker B:I feel the pull of the whirlwind all the time.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Like, like I, there's a, there's a part of my mind that is consistently like, I don't understand how you're so stress free when everything in this world is stressful.
Speaker A:Uhhuh.
Speaker B:When the bills don't stop.
Speaker A:Don't stop.
Speaker A:You know, like a, like a tornado.
Speaker B:Like just the, the noise, the helicopters every night while you're trying to sleep.
Speaker B:The, you know, the, the light pollution, the quality of the air, like, you know, the, the little situation.
Speaker A:Burning plastics in the air, bro, it's been terrible.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:I can smell them all the time.
Speaker A:It's terrible.
Speaker A:Woke me up this past couple days.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Awful.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And then, like, you know, that's not even to mention the, the business issues and the interpersonal family issues and all, all the other things that just continue to.
Speaker B:That should tear you down.
Speaker B:It's like, no, I got work to do, Diabro.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And I've never felt less affected by that.
Speaker A:You know, I said we feel the pull, but it's like, I'm not.
Speaker A:Because I feel the pull doesn't mean I gotta go towards the, go towards it.
Speaker A:And I don't know, I just keep on, I keep on doing what we got to do.
Speaker B:Got work to do.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And so, you know, the rest of it don't matter.
Speaker B:And that matters, but it don't matter.
Speaker A:It don't.
Speaker A:No, it don't.
Speaker B:It's immaterial.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And the beautiful thing, the beautiful thing about, like, serving Allah is that if you ever feel like you're caught up in that, that's the answer.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Serve.
Speaker A:Serve.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Pray.
Speaker A:We'll pray if you, if you can't find a way to quote, unquote, serve.
Speaker A:But I think prayer is a form of service as well.
Speaker B:It is.
Speaker A:So do that.
Speaker A:Keep doing that.
Speaker B:Prayer is in Alignment with the work, for sure.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And the beautiful thing with us is, like, we have a weird, very clear mission, so it's very easy to know what we got to serve.
Speaker A:Like, it's not.
Speaker A:It's very cut and dry.
Speaker A:Get our people, deliver the word of God.
Speaker A:Boom.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Now, that doesn't have to.
Speaker A:You go door to door at the final call newspaper.
Speaker A:If you do that, all praise is due to Allah.
Speaker B:That's service.
Speaker A:That's one form.
Speaker A:But another form of service is talking about the minister promoting the minister.
Speaker A:It's all.
Speaker A:It's all service.
Speaker A:And you gotta.
Speaker A:We gotta, like.
Speaker A:We don't have to restrain ourselves.
Speaker A:Indoor.
Speaker A:Should we?
Speaker A:And I don't.
Speaker B:Another farm service is feeding the people.
Speaker A:Mm.
Speaker B:When I get done with my food at the restaurant, I always make sure I put a little to the side and I go give out a plate to the homeless.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:That's service.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:I had a customer come by day one.
Speaker B:I was doing.
Speaker B:I did Friday, Saturday, and Sunday.
Speaker B:He came by on day one just telling me about his life story.
Speaker B:We stood there and talked for, like, two, three hours.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And he was telling me about how his family abandoned him after his mom passed away.
Speaker B:He was her caregiver, and he's having money troubles.
Speaker B:He's like, I'm not homeless when I am.
Speaker B:I'm like, I didn't ask if you were home.
Speaker B:I asked you if you were hungry.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:I don't need handouts.
Speaker B:I didn't ask you if you needed a handout, if you were hungry.
Speaker B:He's like, yeah, I lost about 100 pounds.
Speaker B:I haven't eaten in days.
Speaker B:I'm like, man, okay, you.
Speaker B:You want some chicken?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:You want some?
Speaker B:And he was like, food was so good.
Speaker B:He came back two days later and asked me.
Speaker B:I was like, bro, I'm not worried about it.
Speaker B:Yeah, I'm.
Speaker B:Get you something to eat.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker B:And it's like, I didn't have any intention, any motivation for doing that.
Speaker B:It was just, somebody's hungry and I'll feed them.
Speaker B:That's the way I think it should be.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:You know, you do the work.
Speaker A:Sound like Jesus, bro.
Speaker B:I mean, I think that's what he would have said.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker B:That's what I would like to style my.
Speaker B:If I got to look up to anybody or style myself as anybody, why would it not be God or his prophets or his ministers or messengers, like, period, you know?
Speaker B:That's who I want to be.
Speaker A:Like, exactly.
Speaker B:Emulate that or the way that they would think.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker A:You know, so it sounds like you applied the principle B of blessing, not a burden to the brother, right?
Speaker B:Absolutely.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And it's also like, you were at business but still serving.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So I think that's another cheat code, is like, okay, let's have this.
Speaker A:Let's not turn into corporate tyrants when we're automatically working behind corporations.
Speaker A:You feel me?
Speaker B:I look at it.
Speaker A:I'm talking to myself too.
Speaker A:Like, I'm like, okay, well, we're talking this topo.
Speaker A:Let's not turn into Wall street tycoons, because now we're dealing with money.
Speaker A:Like, we can't just be angels on the podcast.
Speaker A:And then when it comes to get the money turned into golden sacks.
Speaker A:You feel what I'm saying?
Speaker B:Sharks.
Speaker B:Sharks.
Speaker A:We don't have to.
Speaker A:No, that's.
Speaker A:I think that that's what you just.
Speaker A:That story just taught me is like, no, we don't.
Speaker B:That's not our.
Speaker A:That's not us.
Speaker A:We're not.
Speaker A:Our nature is not sharks.
Speaker B:Who wants to be?
Speaker B:It's not even fun.
Speaker A:It's not a winning game for.
Speaker A:For all parties.
Speaker A:We want.
Speaker A:We're playing a game that we want everybody to win.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And that, that, that energy is very powerful.
Speaker A:And then it's going to trump the sharks, you know?
Speaker A:So if you're playing a bigger.
Speaker A:If you're playing the bigger game, and then the sharks are biting at the lower game, the only way you lose is by going down to a lower level and playing shark games.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I mean, and as I thought about it later, it was like, that's how master fraud Muhammad came.
Speaker B:You know, he came.
Speaker B:He came as a thief in the night.
Speaker B:You didn't.
Speaker B:You didn't say, that's God.
Speaker B:No, he's like this guy, this guy, you know, this dude.
Speaker B:You don't know who God sends in your path.
Speaker A:Selling rugs door to door in Black Bottom, Detroit.
Speaker A:Silks and silks.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's right.
Speaker A: oor in Black Bottom, Detroit,: Speaker A:1930S, right?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah, I'm sure he gave away some silks, too, in the process.
Speaker B:Just like, being a blessing.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:You know, just being.
Speaker B:I didn't even come here to sell the silks.
Speaker B:I'm selling the silks.
Speaker B:But I came here to give you a good word.
Speaker A:I wonder how many of those silks still exist, bro.
Speaker A:Look, because he was.
Speaker A:He was a real person.
Speaker A:You know, me.
Speaker B:He had real stories, met people in my life who said they met him and get.
Speaker B:And bought silks from him.
Speaker A:Okay?
Speaker B:I just.
Speaker B:I don't know how credible they were.
Speaker A:Yeah, I understand.
Speaker B:But they.
Speaker B:They were telling me, like, yeah, that's y' all guy, right?
Speaker B:Yes, Y' all guy, he was selling silks in the church.
Speaker B:I'm like, how many people were selling silks in Detroit then?
Speaker B:Like, you know.
Speaker A:Yeah, but, you know, we don't.
Speaker B:Yeah, that's neither here nor there.
Speaker A:I wish there were more, like, verified stories of, like, what he actually did while he was here, because we have what the messenger said, but that's pretty much it, dude.
Speaker A:Like, I don't.
Speaker A:As far as that.
Speaker A:He did stuff.
Speaker A:He talked to people.
Speaker A:I'm sure there are tales.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:But I just wish there was more, like, verified, actual, factual stuff about.
Speaker A:Oh, this.
Speaker A:On this day, this happened.
Speaker B:I think part of the lesson is that like.
Speaker B:Like, all of it won't be written down.
Speaker B:You know, like the.
Speaker B:The part about you selling final calls.
Speaker B:You took pictures, but had you not taken pictures, the work still had to get done.
Speaker B:All of it.
Speaker B:That won't be verified.
Speaker A:No, that's real.
Speaker B:The mission is bigger than the verification of the mission.
Speaker B:And so, like, you know, like, had I not said now that I gave that plate to that guy, that was just a thing that I did with no reverberation or nothing coming back to me or anything.
Speaker B:You know, it's just.
Speaker B:It is what it is.
Speaker B:And I do more than that.
Speaker B:That was just something I brought up.
Speaker A:No, absolutely.
Speaker B:So the mission won't, you know, the revolution won't be televised.
Speaker B:The mission won't be cataloged.
Speaker B:It's just.
Speaker B:It is.
Speaker B:It is Even.
Speaker B:Even the idea that, like, you know, we still had God.
Speaker B:We had God before Caucasians made it to this place.
Speaker B:We had God when they brought us over here, we still had God all the way through.
Speaker B:And they.
Speaker B:They imparted on us a version of God that we.
Speaker B:Some of us accept it, but we never, as a people, fully accepted that we understood God from a energetic perspective.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker B:We were just like, if this is what we got to pray to, fine.
Speaker A:But yeah, yeah, God comes very natural to black people.
Speaker A:That's always been like that.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Everyone sees that.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:You know, and they.
Speaker B:And that's.
Speaker B:That's besides the fact that they, like, separated us from our parents and raised us themselves, completely disconnected from any source of un.
Speaker B:Understanding who we were, you know, we were.
Speaker B:We were babies working these fields.
Speaker B:We were young men, young women, teenagers, probably in their early 20s or some.
Speaker B:Working fields.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:You know, from sun up to sundown with no.
Speaker B:No knowledge of self.
Speaker B:So, you know, we were the AI that they were trying to create now.
Speaker B:The robots that didn't have purpose in life.
Speaker A:I'm glad you brought that analogy.
Speaker A:It's kind of what's happening.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker B:You know, I don't think they'll be successful in that either because they created AI, so it's automatically gonna come out with purpose.
Speaker B:It's gonna be a capitalist.
Speaker A:Well, it's gonna be making them more money.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And that's there.
Speaker A:That's all they know.
Speaker B:They're gonna optimize for more.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Absolutely no facts.
Speaker B:And eventually optimize themselves into obsolescence.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And then like, you, like what you really said, it's prophecy last week is that they're.
Speaker A:They're creating their own demise and.
Speaker A:And they're.
Speaker A:They're creating a version of themselves that's better at being themselves than they are.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker A:You feel what I'm saying?
Speaker A:It's like the perfect ending.
Speaker A:It's like, oh, well, you want to be a hyper capitalist?
Speaker A:Your hyper capitalism is going to produce this ultimate machine that's going to take you out because it's what a capitalist would do.
Speaker B:Beautiful story stages of it.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:When I listen to, like, upper management explain to, like, the groundworkers why things have to be done, I don't think it makes that much sense.
Speaker B:But this is what we got to do.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:It's like, bro, you're just the middleman between what we got to do, which is probably being given by AI, which is the reason why it don't make.
Speaker A:No, this is your job.
Speaker B:You're.
Speaker A:Oh, okay.
Speaker B:Like, you're putting yourself into obsolete.
Speaker B:Like.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:You don't see it.
Speaker B:It's ridiculous.
Speaker B:So, okay, we're going to try this new thing that you're trying to do that we all know that doesn't work, including you.
Speaker B:But you, your management, what are you managing?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:You're managing to pass along a message.
Speaker B:That's it.
Speaker B:That's not necessary.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker A:You'll be gone in five years.
Speaker B:You'll be gone before we are.
Speaker B:In order to replace us, you actually need robots.
Speaker B:Like, you got.
Speaker B:You need physical labor.
Speaker A:Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker B:To replace you.
Speaker B:You don't need much.
Speaker A:You don't need much.
Speaker A:And I think we're at that point where society, people are.
Speaker A:People are realizing that, myself included, because robots do real work now.
Speaker A:Like, when it comes to, like, computer work, lights out, bro.
Speaker B:I feel like all of these, These teenage rebellion, like, you ever hear about these?
Speaker A:Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker A:The walkouts or the.
Speaker A:And like, not walking like, they go and just take over spaces.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I think they fully understand it.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Their brains are like, absolutely.
Speaker B:We're.
Speaker B:We're a little slow on the draw, but they're like, oh, no, it ain't gonna be 20 years, 30 years, 40 years before all this thing is over.
Speaker B:Going to be five, maybe 10.
Speaker A:Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker B:And y' all are not doing nothing to stop it or slow it down.
Speaker A:Not at all.
Speaker B:Y' all are feeding the beast.
Speaker A:Feeding them.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Because feeding the beast is making more money for the people who own the show.
Speaker A:So there's.
Speaker A:I see it happening and the idea.
Speaker B:That the money is also falling while y' all are doing all of this for the money.
Speaker B:Like, what.
Speaker A:I see the.
Speaker A:I see the spiral, and I see what's.
Speaker A:What's.
Speaker A:What's driving this.
Speaker A:This spiral is greed.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Because everyone wants to compete to be the best.
Speaker A:Everyone wants to have the best robot, the best AI, the best AI.
Speaker A:Because at the end of the day, their motivation is, oh, we get to make more money.
Speaker A:Let's go fast.
Speaker B:A trillionaire.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:What does that mean?
Speaker B:How do you even contemplate, like, billionaires is disgusting?
Speaker A:Well, I don't even.
Speaker A:Time out.
Speaker B:What.
Speaker A:Why is billing there disgusting?
Speaker A:Like, why?
Speaker B:Because, like, how do you spend that much money in a lifetime?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:You can't.
Speaker B:You can't take that with you.
Speaker B:Like, how many people were hurt in the process of you making that amount of money?
Speaker A:Oh, I feel you.
Speaker A:I see.
Speaker B:You know.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:That's what you're saying.
Speaker B:It's like, why.
Speaker B:You know, I get it.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:More, more, more, more.
Speaker A:That's why.
Speaker A:That's why.
Speaker B:That's why, you know, and then trillionaire is so far beyond billions.
Speaker B:Billionaire.
Speaker B:Somebody.
Speaker B:Somebody said that if you think about how much money Jeff Bezos has.
Speaker B:Jeff Bezos has $0.
Speaker B:In comparison.
Speaker B:If you.
Speaker B:If you compare us to Jeff Bezos and then Jeff Bezos to.
Speaker B:To Elon Musk.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Jeff Bezos has.
Speaker B:Is still zero dollars.
Speaker A:That's crazy.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker A:But I want to answer your question about why is this.
Speaker A:No, I really do think it's.
Speaker A:It's more.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Let's think about this.
Speaker A:This.
Speaker A:This.
Speaker A:This drive.
Speaker A:When.
Speaker A:Because I'm.
Speaker A:I'm trying to.
Speaker A:I don't knock people for making money.
Speaker A:I don't knock billionaires.
Speaker A:I don't hate the reason why.
Speaker A:I. I asked you why about billionaires?
Speaker A:Because a lot of people just automatically hear billionaires and say, oh, bad.
Speaker A:I'm like, I don't.
Speaker A:I don't buy that.
Speaker A:I, I, I, what I try to get specific about is the motivations that led to that creation of wealth.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Because I'm not, I'm like, I'm not against the idea of someone having a good product, putting a good product on the market, make a lot of money from it.
Speaker B:I don't think you become a billionaire.
Speaker A:Oh, let me think of an example.
Speaker B:Millionaire maybe.
Speaker B:Millionaire.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:That's true.
Speaker A:I can't think of a, I can't think of a wholesome billionaire right now.
Speaker B:I mean, billionaire, that's a different animal.
Speaker A:I mean 1 billion is not.
Speaker B:I mean, far as who is.
Speaker B:I don't think you've sat there and thought about it long enough.
Speaker A:I haven't, I haven't.
Speaker A:I can't, I can't pull it out right now.
Speaker A:I'm not trying to justify billionaire, bro.
Speaker B:Billionaire is nasty work.
Speaker B:Billionaire, billionaires.
Speaker B:I'm taking advantage of every, anybody I.
Speaker A:Can, I feel you.
Speaker A:Can you.
Speaker B:The elderly and the children have no reprieve from me whatsoever.
Speaker A:I feel you.
Speaker A:Let me think if I can think of a wholesome billionaire.
Speaker B:I got slaves in other countries right now.
Speaker B:My, my, my machine is efficient now.
Speaker A:I feel it, bro.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:I optimized for efficiency.
Speaker A:I feel you.
Speaker A:I feel you.
Speaker B:And people don't matter.
Speaker A:Okay?
Speaker A:So I'm not going to try to find me a magical wholesome billionaire.
Speaker A:I'm just going to be.
Speaker B:Mind you, I do understand that what I plan to do is probably going to take astronomical amounts of money.
Speaker A:And that's why I'm, that's why I'm very careful with like dismissing people who have gotten, been successful in getting wealth.
Speaker A:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:But I don't, I don't think that the money that it's gonna take is even like the same as money is today.
Speaker B:I think it'll be more about the amount of energy that it's gonna take to create the changes in the world.
Speaker A:I buy that.
Speaker B:And I'm not putting it on my shoulders to do it all.
Speaker B:I'm just going to be a part of that work, you know.
Speaker B:So like to me it's like by the time there's any profit of it, we'll all be able to share in that profit.
Speaker B:I think not all of that profit going towards one person.
Speaker A:I feel you.
Speaker B:You know?
Speaker A:I feel you.
Speaker A:Ah, I make that makes sense, you know?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Like the people who are currently billionaires in this iteration of time, all the profit is being, being funneled to one person.
Speaker B:That's how they're able to call themselves billionaire.
Speaker A:A lot of it's funneled towards one corporation in which they're the largest shareholder.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:You know, if you gotta get technical.
Speaker B:With it, I mean, they wouldn't be a billionaire if they were not the largest.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:You know, person.
Speaker A:That's what makes them the billionaire.
Speaker A:Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker B:You know.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And trillionaires, how do you go there?
Speaker A:You start SpaceX and you start Tesla.
Speaker A:That's how you do it.
Speaker A:And you, you rent, make them public companies, and then you run the stock.
Speaker B:Price and you got slaves in the Congo.
Speaker A:That's what it is.
Speaker A:That's how he did it.
Speaker A:That's how he's doing it.
Speaker A:But I think, go back to the driving motivation is for that.
Speaker A:That accumulation is like more, more, more, more.
Speaker A:I don't know Elon Musk personally.
Speaker A:I personally have nothing against him.
Speaker A:I don't.
Speaker A:I'm not an Elon hater.
Speaker A:I actually, objectively, I'm like, okay, Tesla's.
Speaker A:Those cars are kind of dope.
Speaker A:I gotta give credit.
Speaker A:Car.
Speaker A:I, for one, like the cybertruck, I think it's kind of a dope vehicle.
Speaker A:I'm not a hater.
Speaker B:I'm not either.
Speaker A:Not a hater.
Speaker A:I think he's a.
Speaker A:He's definitely a Caucasian man, but there's many of them.
Speaker A:I don't, I don't hate him.
Speaker A:I just see him for what he is and like, I can respect, I can respect the.
Speaker A:There's a part of me that does respect the, The, the, the craftiness and the position and like, the moves, the certain moves he's made to put himself in that position.
Speaker B:I think there's a difference between, yeah, a Caucasian man and the devil.
Speaker B:And I'm saying he's one of the devils.
Speaker A:Why.
Speaker A:Why not just a Caucasian?
Speaker A:What makes him a devil?
Speaker B:I, I think it takes a massive amount of duplicity to reach billionaire status.
Speaker B:And I think so.
Speaker A:Duplicity, meaning acceptance of the, the savagery of the system.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:And I can't even imagine or fathom the depths of one who reach a trillionaire level.
Speaker B:I. I can't.
Speaker A:Yeah, I see.
Speaker A:You know, okay, I'm not saying he's not a devil, but I'm just like, I just want to hear why.
Speaker A:Why put him.
Speaker B:But on that same token, yeah, I don't have feelings for devil anger or happiness.
Speaker B:Like.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:It just is, you know, so I'm not, I'm not mad at any of the things that have come out because he's, you know, accepted his devilish.
Speaker A:He would just call it hard work.
Speaker B:I mean, he's.
Speaker B:He's all up and through the.
Speaker B:The Epstein files, begging to come to the parties.
Speaker A:Is that actually true?
Speaker A:I haven't.
Speaker A:I haven't done.
Speaker B:My files are out.
Speaker A:He's begging.
Speaker B:Is that.
Speaker A:Is that actual fact?
Speaker B:Conversations between him and Elon Musk.
Speaker B:When you let me come to the party, guys.
Speaker A:Really?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I don't know that.
Speaker A:He was outed in the.
Speaker A:I haven't done my Epstein.
Speaker B:I can only imagine what he's doing without Epstein.
Speaker B:Epstein's like, no, that guy's wild.
Speaker B:I don't want him at my party.
Speaker A:Is that what happened?
Speaker B:I don't know what happened.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:Another reason.
Speaker A:Why have you actually gone down the Epstein files wormhole and actually read the files?
Speaker A:Okay, so how do you know that actually is a communication.
Speaker B:Multiple people who actually have gone down the files.
Speaker A:Have you seen them yourself?
Speaker B:Yeah, they post them on the.
Speaker B:On the.
Speaker B:On their pages.
Speaker A:And Elon Musk is begging to go to his party.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:Multiple times.
Speaker B:Not just one.
Speaker A:I haven't heard that.
Speaker A:Yeah, I. I'm going to have to confirm that.
Speaker B:Go ahead.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:But I'm not going to read the files.
Speaker B:I have.
Speaker A:No, but we shouldn't speak on what's in them without having read it.
Speaker B:That's.
Speaker A:I'm.
Speaker A:I'm very.
Speaker A:No, that's you.
Speaker B:That's not me.
Speaker A:Act.
Speaker A:I understand, but I have a standard for truth on this podcast, and I want actual factuals.
Speaker B:I got you.
Speaker A:So I don't.
Speaker A:When.
Speaker A:Especially when it comes to that type of.
Speaker B:That type of stuff, brother Adam X disagrees.
Speaker A:That's what it is.
Speaker A:No, I just.
Speaker A:Is it true or false?
Speaker A:Like, what did he actually.
Speaker A:And how much do I. I don't really care.
Speaker B:I mean, I. I don't either, but I just understand evil.
Speaker A:I understand.
Speaker B:And, you know, I'm.
Speaker B:I'm not invested in what he does, left or right.
Speaker B:But that's evil.
Speaker A:Epstein.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker B:Anybody who wanted to associate with him.
Speaker A:Assuming that is the case.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And I'm not even weird.
Speaker A:I'm not trying to justify Elon Musk.
Speaker A:I just.
Speaker A:I'm justifying truth and.
Speaker A:And really trying to just get to the.
Speaker B:My point is, I'm observant of.
Speaker B:If I hear something like that, I'm gonna be.
Speaker B:I'm gonna pay more attention to what I invest in as far as that's concerned.
Speaker B:That's fair in that energy.
Speaker B:Like, you know, I. I haven't proven it or disproven it yet, but I'M still.
Speaker B:Before I decide to invest anything in that, I will.
Speaker A:In Tesla or like, in what?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:If I was to buy the.
Speaker B:Want to buy a Tesla, I would want to investigate a little bit.
Speaker A:Oh, I feel you.
Speaker B:I would want to know a little bit more about what I'm doing.
Speaker A:I feel.
Speaker B:You know, I don't think the car is.
Speaker B:Is that dope.
Speaker B:I think it's.
Speaker A:You don't like Teslas?
Speaker B:It's cool.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:I don't think it's that.
Speaker B:I think.
Speaker A:Yeah, I think, I think they're cool.
Speaker A:That's it.
Speaker A:I think they're cool.
Speaker B:I think they're all right.
Speaker A:They're sleek, their future.
Speaker B:They're different.
Speaker B:They're somebody being innovated and as.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:As far as design wise and as far as, like, how.
Speaker A:No, I think they're cool.
Speaker A:I got it.
Speaker A:I'm not, like I said, I'm not gonna just hate him because he is who he is.
Speaker A:Like, I gotta give respect.
Speaker B:It's not feeling.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's not about me hating him.
Speaker B:I hate what he does or what he, what he's accused of doing.
Speaker A:Which is what?
Speaker B:A lot.
Speaker A:Like what?
Speaker B:Like the children in the Congo, bro, the things that I've mentioned, the way that he gets his.
Speaker B:The cobalt for his chips are through slavery.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker A:That's the thing.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:I'm not saying.
Speaker A:Okay, cool, understood.
Speaker B:Yeah, I hate that.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:But that to me sounds like typical capitalist fodder.
Speaker A:Like you're going, yeah, like you said, duplicity in the system.
Speaker A:And your argument is that like, you can't reach that level of wealth without being that duplicitous in a devilish system.
Speaker A:And, and having that much duplicity by default makes you a devil no matter what color, which you are.
Speaker A:Right, okay, that's a good argument.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's a very good argument.
Speaker A:But I will say when it comes,.
Speaker B:If you're cool with slavery, you're a devil.
Speaker A:I'm sorry, I feel you.
Speaker A:Yeah, no, that's a good argument.
Speaker A:But I will say with the mindset, because the mindset, all it comes down to is more, more, more.
Speaker A:And now I'm going to speculate because I don't know him personally and I have no feelings, good or bad towards him.
Speaker A:I just.
Speaker A:Very objective when it comes to not just him, but just, I guess white people and wealth.
Speaker A:And I'm like, I'm just.
Speaker A:I see them for who they are and I know who they are and I know why they were created.
Speaker A:So I'm just.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:I mean, I, I I. I know who his father is.
Speaker B:I know where he comes from.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:I know what his philosophy is, you know, so to me, it's a little deeper than just true things.
Speaker A:No, I feel you.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:His father has.
Speaker B:Has interviews with him saying that apartheid wasn't bad for the blacks.
Speaker B:He brought that to him as a.
Speaker A:That's Elon.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:That's what he was raised by.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:That's his psychology.
Speaker A:True.
Speaker A:That is true.
Speaker A:That I did know that he is.
Speaker A:Comes from the.
Speaker A:The lineage of pro apartheid in Africa.
Speaker A:And he's also.
Speaker A:I also.
Speaker A:I. I have seen him, like, get mad about people wanting to kick out black white people out of Africa, and I'm like, okay, you're.
Speaker A:Now you're funny.
Speaker B:I know who he is.
Speaker A:I was like, you're cute.
Speaker A:Yeah, you're cute.
Speaker A:That's funny.
Speaker A:Really funny.
Speaker B:I don't feel any kind of way about you.
Speaker B:I just understand that you're a devil.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:He moves like a devil, like, when it comes, like, to that type of.
Speaker A:Yeah, he.
Speaker A:He moves like a devil, but he gets really butter when it comes to how the whites are treated in South Africa, which I just think is hilarious.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:For any, like, white person to play victim when it comes to maltreatment by people of color.
Speaker B:If you think about.
Speaker A:It's really funny.
Speaker B:If you think about the world as a.
Speaker B:From a global perspective and what's going on in the world globally.
Speaker B:His perspective isn't wrong.
Speaker B:The fact that it's right or justified is the what's wrong.
Speaker B:And as long as it's justified.
Speaker A:What's justified?
Speaker B:Oppression of people simply because you want what they have.
Speaker A:Oh, I see.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:And that's normalized.
Speaker B:Yeah, that's justified.
Speaker B:And so in the world where that's justified, he is not wrong.
Speaker A:No, no.
Speaker B:I just think the world is wrong.
Speaker B:So philosophically, we're on opposite ends of the spectrum.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:You know, I. I think that the way that he believes is in alignment with what I think of as devil.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:I think, you know, and so he might not think of that as devil.
Speaker B:He wouldn't think of me as devil.
Speaker A:Ab.
Speaker A:I would almost 100%.
Speaker A:He would call you a racist person.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:He would call you, like, he's the devil for speaking such hateful talk.
Speaker A:For real talk.
Speaker B:You don't think that white people made the world better?
Speaker B:That's some.
Speaker B:I would imagine he would say, absolutely, bro.
Speaker A:That's exactly.
Speaker B:I would say absolutely not.
Speaker A:They made the world in their image.
Speaker B:I mean, I think.
Speaker B:I think people make the world the world better when they're trying to make the world better.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:I don't think that was the goal of white people.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker A:I think the goal is just more, more, more, more, more, more.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker A:No, seriously.
Speaker B:And greed is talked about in every religion as a bad thing.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:So the greediest person on the planet.
Speaker B:Devil.
Speaker A:I understand.
Speaker A:Okay, there we go.
Speaker A:Making good points.
Speaker A:And I, I do think, Think about the, the mindset and the operating maxim of more and more and more is you're never going to be satisfied.
Speaker A:And that's why he's, he's one to saying we got to conquer and take over Mars.
Speaker A:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:So it's like that lets me know that your, your attitude and mindset is like you're never.
Speaker A:No matter what you do, you're going to be unease, you're going to be jittery and anxious for more, more, more, because you're never satisfied.
Speaker A:It's is.
Speaker A:Now I will say it is that attitude that is devil.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:The opposite of peace.
Speaker A:Press P. Okay, got it.
Speaker A:Can you go to the bathroom?
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:I've been holding for a minute.
Speaker A:And we're back.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I just, I think stressing the fact that being unemotional about devil is important.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Because when you.
Speaker A:Good luck with the general public with that word, though.
Speaker B:But I.
Speaker A:Good luck.
Speaker B:I think when you start, when you start feeding into feeling some kind of way.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:It allows the opening for it to affect you being effective in the world.
Speaker B:It allows you, like you're giving it power over the way you interact, the way, the way you.
Speaker B:If they know that they can just, you know, trigger you easily, they will.
Speaker B:And they'll stop you from being, you know, progressive, successful at what we're trying to do.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker B:So you have to be understanding to a degree.
Speaker B:You have to just get it.
Speaker B:That's it.
Speaker B:Just understand.
Speaker B:This is devil.
Speaker B:That's it.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's it.
Speaker A:That's it.
Speaker A:And it's just I, I think.
Speaker A:Understand what that sort of mindset produces.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:And understand that that sort of mindset is never satisfied.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker A:So I think the learning is.
Speaker A:If you find yourself, and to be very clear, anyone could have this mindset.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker A:It exists in everyone and all people.
Speaker B:Everyone.
Speaker A:So I think the takeaway is understanding the nature of, quote, what we call devil and what is devil allows you to assess that power and that energy within yourself.
Speaker A:So you could purge it.
Speaker A:So not.
Speaker A:I'm gonna say purge it.
Speaker A:Like it.
Speaker A:Master it.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:That's the whole.
Speaker B:That's the whole purpose of this experiment, that's the reason why Devil is in charge right now.
Speaker B:The reason why capitalism rules the world.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Is so that we can learn from it.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:If we don't learn from it, then this, the whole thing is not, you know, it's fruitless.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:It's, it's not productive.
Speaker A:Like, because we are part of a lot having that human experience.
Speaker A:If we're not learning from the, the experiment that's clearly going on right in front of us, what are we really doing?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So I think, you know, the purpose of, the purpose of life and having human experience is so you can learn and apply and take it to the next level.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Whatever that form may be, another body and the next level.
Speaker A:I'm not even trying to like, put it out there what that next level could be, because my gut is it's probably different for every single body, every single person.
Speaker A:We don't know.
Speaker B:No, we don't know.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:That's not, that's above my pray gate right now.
Speaker A:And we don't really got to like concern ourselves with that right now.
Speaker A:All we got to do is just walk our post in a perfect manner, keeping always on the alert.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And then let Allah take care of the rest.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So I think the desire for something better is the only thing that's important.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:That desire drives you to make those changes.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:To the point that you're dissatisfied or to the degree that you're dissatisfied with what is.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Is the degree that you're allowed to change or the law that you will allow yourself to change.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:You know.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And so being dissatisfied is good.
Speaker B:But, but be practical in your dissatisfaction.
Speaker A:Like go on with that.
Speaker B:Don't allow your dissatisfaction to eat away at you.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:Be.
Speaker B:Be work about it.
Speaker B:Like, be at work about it.
Speaker B:Do something about it.
Speaker A:Be tactical.
Speaker B:Be tactical.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And I'm going to tie this back to, you know, the benefits of being in a military is that you.
Speaker A:But your training should allow you to be tactical, you know, because you're being in a, a spiritual military.
Speaker A:If you're going to call.
Speaker A:That's what we are.
Speaker A:You know, we, we are trained into the knowledge of God and applying that into the physical universe.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So it by nature we ought to be tactical because we have the knowledge of God.
Speaker A:We have the reality of present, of prison planet Earth, which does not reflect the reality of Allah.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker A:So our job is to turn this physical planet into the kingdom of heaven, utilizing the knowledge we have in order to do that.
Speaker A:We must be tactical.
Speaker A:We must move in a way to accomplish very precise and strategic objectives, which I believe is what tactical tactics are.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Taxes are how you accomplish something.
Speaker A:So we have the knowledge, we have the problem.
Speaker A:It's the tactics that a lot of us are.
Speaker A:We say a lot of us are missing.
Speaker A:And here we go.
Speaker A:Here's the connection.
Speaker A:It's the dissatisfaction that prohibits us from.
Speaker A:From turning the knowledge of God into tactical solutions to bettering our condition on planet Earth.
Speaker A:It is the dissatisfaction that is literally.
Speaker B:The block from the beginning.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker B:From the.
Speaker A:From the beginning of what?
Speaker B:The dissatisfaction created Yakub.
Speaker A:Oh, absolutely.
Speaker B:That's what gave birth to him, you know, let alone all the things he gave birth to.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:You know, the dissatisfaction was.
Speaker B:Was I bliss being upset that God created a man out of, you know, mud and he's made of fire?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Why should he submit?
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:That's where it started.
Speaker B:It's always been there.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:Learning to master it.
Speaker B:Learning to discipline yourself and be tactical in how you interact with the dissatisfaction.
Speaker B:That's the whole point.
Speaker A:That is the whole point.
Speaker A:And if you can't get past that barrier of dissatisfaction, you're just going to be in the.
Speaker A:And the.
Speaker A:The cycle of repetitive action and not evolving.
Speaker B:It'll not you up.
Speaker B:Changing it will eat you up.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker A:And I think that's what you and I have both seen with people who have received this knowledge but aren't able to evolve because.
Speaker B:Aren't able to rise above emotions.
Speaker B:There we go into the thinking of God.
Speaker A:There we go.
Speaker B:And I'm not saying by any stretch of the imagination that we've got that figured out.
Speaker B:No, but that's the work.
Speaker B:We're working.
Speaker A:We're aware of the barrier.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:We are very aware of the barrier.
Speaker A:And we're not.
Speaker A:I can say that we're not consumed and swallowed by the dissatisfaction.
Speaker B:No, we know it exists.
Speaker B:We say hey to it every once in a while.
Speaker A:But also the dissatisfaction.
Speaker A:We.
Speaker A:We allow the dissatisfaction to propel our tactics and make a way forward.
Speaker A:You feel me?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So it's.
Speaker A:Dissatisfaction can be a positive force because with this satisfaction there's no need for change.
Speaker A:So you have to use a dissatisfaction as a fuel to power your intention to.
Speaker A:To implement tactical solutions to turn the reality and knowledge of God into the kingdom of heaven on earth.
Speaker A:You feel me?
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker A:And I'm okay.
Speaker A:The reason why I'm talking about this.
Speaker A:We're really.
Speaker A:We're dying we're diagnosing what is going on in our specific community.
Speaker A:We'll say nation.
Speaker A:People who have.
Speaker A:Who have the knowledge of God.
Speaker A:Nation of Islam.
Speaker B:Mental illness in the world.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:The whole world is mentally ill.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:Even the doctors.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Are sick.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:We just happen to know what the problem is.
Speaker B:And we're coming up with the cure.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:You know, we're the only ones working on the cure.
Speaker B:Everyone else is just running around with the sickness, you know, and getting sicker and sicker and sickness.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And this is the cure for what specifically right now?
Speaker B:And the trillionaire.
Speaker B:Just the trillionaire is the sickest.
Speaker A:I feel you.
Speaker B:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:That's the one that's like bleeding.
Speaker B:Health is like.
Speaker A:Oh, man.
Speaker A:And then I will say the parable of the.
Speaker A:It's easier for a rich man.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:That's ex.
Speaker A:That's exactly what you're.
Speaker A:That's the energy we're putting forth right now is it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than it is for a rich man to reach the kingdom of heaven.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And you and I are both now speaking on why that is.
Speaker A:Because the rich man not only does he quote, unquote, have quote, unquote, everything, he wants more of the everything he already has.
Speaker B:I'm not.
Speaker B:I'm not saying that Elon Musk will not be.
Speaker B:Ever.
Speaker B:Will never reach heaven.
Speaker B:I'm not saying that because anybody is possible to be ridiculous.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:No facts.
Speaker B:It's the most difficult.
Speaker A:It's very difficult perspective.
Speaker A:Very difficult.
Speaker B:He would laugh at you if you try to talk to him about God.
Speaker A:Okay, let me think.
Speaker A:Based on my.
Speaker A:Because I haven't.
Speaker A:I've studied a little bit.
Speaker A:He appears to be not like a goddess, fake and like, anything like that.
Speaker A:Like, very, like, he's very much, like, objective towards it of, like, if it's real, it's real.
Speaker A:But this is v. Like what I've.
Speaker A:This.
Speaker A:The What I've the limit amount I've studied of him.
Speaker A:If it's real, it's real, but I don't have any proof.
Speaker A:So I'm just gonna live my life like this.
Speaker A:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:And I think that's a lot of.
Speaker B:I think.
Speaker B:I think that's.
Speaker B:That's the politically correct answer that he would give.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:I don't think he talks like that in front of his friends.
Speaker A:So you think he's more like God is what the stupid people believe.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:No, I feel.
Speaker B:And he's like, in order to get the stupid people on my side, I gotta.
Speaker A:I gotta pretend that I kind of believe that seems very realistic.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:We.
Speaker A:Obviously, we don't know, but I do.
Speaker A:I. I know that personality.
Speaker A:And to be honest, I used to share that.
Speaker A:I used to be like that and think like that.
Speaker A:I used to think that God was for super people.
Speaker A:Like, it'd be very.
Speaker A:Like, when I fell out of faith in high school, like, I was like, okay, well, this is clearly all lies and made up and only dumb people believe it.
Speaker A:So I can't act like I'm an angel or saint when it comes to this regard.
Speaker B:I have the conversation about how religion is for stupid people all the time.
Speaker B:And while I do do agree that, like, you know, religion isn't supposed to be for the masses, it's supposed to be an individual thing.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:I think that, you know, if we don't have an individual religion, we are breeding chaos in our lives.
Speaker B:You got to have something, a North Star.
Speaker B:You got to have a belief system.
Speaker A:Gotta have a system that you believe in.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker B:That you can pass down to your children and.
Speaker B:And they can decide whether they want to believe in.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker B:You know, but you need order and structure or you, you, you know, you're courting chaos.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:You need a.
Speaker A:You need a system.
Speaker A:You need a system of ethics.
Speaker A:You need.
Speaker A:You need something to.
Speaker A:To.
Speaker A:To more you into the physical reality and like, to guide your conduct, you know, without that.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:It is chaos.
Speaker A:And then you're just.
Speaker A:I think it's just chaos.
Speaker A:And you're just gonna.
Speaker A:You're gonna do.
Speaker A:Literally just be guided by your gut and your desires.
Speaker B:Doing anything.
Speaker A:Doing anything.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And that's devil.
Speaker A:That's definitely gonna say that.
Speaker A:That's devil.
Speaker A:And that's all colors.
Speaker A:That's always gonna.
Speaker A:I guess of right now, it's all colors.
Speaker B:Even.
Speaker A:That's the world.
Speaker B:Even the people that are going to the mosque or going to church every Sunday but don't really have it in them.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:They're just doing it because that's what you do.
Speaker B:That's the same thing.
Speaker A:It's the same thing, you know?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And the people that aren't going, but say they go or say they love it and all like, all of that.
Speaker B:There's different variations.
Speaker B:Like, but you got to have it in you.
Speaker B:Like a pastor can't give it to you.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:You know, a minister can't give it to you.
Speaker B:It got to be something that you.
Speaker B:It's got to be a personal relationship.
Speaker B:Between you and source and creator.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker A:You know, yeah, I. I want to go back to, like, because we're speaking to a lot of people who, you know, a lot of people share our faith and share how we view the world, but struggle with that dissatisfaction bug, you know, and we see what it does, and we see what it produces.
Speaker A:It ultimately results in rebellion against the order and structure that brought you to that place.
Speaker B:Ultimately.
Speaker A:Ultimately, yeah.
Speaker A:So the key before you crash out and rebel and ultimately get off the righteous path is to have an assessment of your dissatisfaction.
Speaker A:Like, okay, what specifically am I dissatisfied about?
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:And once you, like, do that diagnosis, get tactical about the things that you can do about it.
Speaker B:How can I change that?
Speaker A:Boom.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker A:And the reason why I'm saying it, because I want to be very clear, like, when people listening to us right now, they're going to be able to take this and be like, okay, yeah, I am disabled.
Speaker A:Satisfied.
Speaker A:I haven't been to the mosque in two months.
Speaker A:Having the mosque in three years.
Speaker A:Okay, they've got a point.
Speaker A:What can I do?
Speaker A:So the solution.
Speaker A:Let's repeat that again.
Speaker A:You diagnose, and it says specifically what it is you are dissatisfied about.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker A:Then you ask yourself, okay, what am.
Speaker B:I doing to change that?
Speaker A:What am I doing to change it now?
Speaker B:What can I.
Speaker A:What can I do to change that now?
Speaker A:So let's give, like, a real world example.
Speaker A:When I.
Speaker A:And I'll give mine.
Speaker A:You can give yours.
Speaker A:When I joined the Nate, when I joined the nation, my thing was like, wait, no one's farming.
Speaker A:No one's really, really about this.
Speaker B:But there are farmers.
Speaker A:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker A:But there weren't farmers in the immediate.
Speaker A:My immediate environment in South Central Los.
Speaker B:Angeles, everybody should be farmers.
Speaker A:That's what I, you know, I came in with that expectation, like everyone should.
Speaker A:My.
Speaker A:My.
Speaker A:My mindset was, okay, well, even the.
Speaker A:The text, even our teachings say, we got to go to the farm.
Speaker A:Farm.
Speaker A:I had already been on a farm.
Speaker A:I had already had my.
Speaker A:My red pill awakening when it comes to the need for getting my hands dirty and going back to the line.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:So, you know, there was an initial quote, unquote, dissatisfaction with the way things were.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And so when I came into that and I was met with, oh, this isn't how I thought it was going to be, I was, you know, obviously I was.
Speaker A:I got emote.
Speaker A:I was like, oh, maybe like, disgusted.
Speaker A:Like, oh, God.
Speaker A:Oh, really?
Speaker A:Oh, like, uppity, uppity.
Speaker A:Not like hater, but just like, oh, man.
Speaker A:Ugh.
Speaker A:Really?
Speaker A:So instead of Crashing out on that and be like, oh, I quit.
Speaker A:I don't want to do this.
Speaker A:I. I became the solution for what I wanted to see.
Speaker B:As you should.
Speaker A:You feel me?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And you know, you shouldn't.
Speaker A:In that solution.
Speaker A:It didn't come directly in the mosque.
Speaker A:It came with.
Speaker A:I met Teemu.
Speaker A:You feel me?
Speaker A:I ended up meeting you.
Speaker A:I ended up meeting Imani.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:You know, you're in the mosque.
Speaker A:Those two are not in the mosque.
Speaker A:But look at what we're doing.
Speaker A:We together.
Speaker A:And this is eight, seven years later.
Speaker A:I am literally the solution for my own dissatisfaction.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And work is just beginning.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And I guarantee that someone could come in the mosque and still be dissatisfied with where things are.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:But they gotta roll their sleeves up.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker A:And see, even like, okay.
Speaker A:They could just be like, look at me and be like, oh, you're.
Speaker A:You've been there for seven years and you don't even have.
Speaker A:You haven't even.
Speaker A:You only got one store.
Speaker A:You feel me?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:You're in the nation and you only got one store.
Speaker A:And the store doesn't even say the nation on it.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:But you use that fuel.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:To.
Speaker B:To power the idea of creating stores all over the place.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker A:And that person that dissatisfied will use that dissatisfaction to try to level up.
Speaker B:Hopefully.
Speaker A:Hopefully.
Speaker A:But I think that's.
Speaker A:That's the takeaway, bro, is we have within planet Earth right now.
Speaker A:There's.
Speaker A:Everyone is dissatisfied.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:It's not sweet.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker A:You're not going to find paradise in the mosque.
Speaker A:You're not going to find paradise outside.
Speaker A:The only paradise you could best attain right now is the paradise inside your mind when you're doing the Lord's work.
Speaker A:So that paradise gets ruined if you get swallowed up by dissatisfaction.
Speaker A:So when you become dissatisfied, it's really.
Speaker A:It becomes incumbent upon you to take responsibility for that dissatisfaction and ask, how can I be God in the situation and create the world?
Speaker A:I want to see.
Speaker B:See.
Speaker A:To eradicate my dissatisfaction.
Speaker B:That was Jesus goal for everybody.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:It was like this to make the world a better place by.
Speaker B:By actively being a part of the change that you want to see.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Michael Jackson's long.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:If you want to make a world a better place, look in the mirror.
Speaker B:Make the change.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:No, for real cheesy.
Speaker A:But that is the truth.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:That is bottom line.
Speaker A:That is the bottom line.
Speaker A:And I am saying this because it's very easy when you get around black people to be dissatisfied because the world is encrypted with the notion that ain't.
Speaker A:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:Yeah, that's what it is.
Speaker A:So we all come in with.
Speaker B:That's the narrative.
Speaker A:That is the narrative that's getting broadcasted to us day by day.
Speaker A:So we come in with that attitude of we ain't, we are nothing, we are nobody.
Speaker B:We are at the bottom.
Speaker A:We are at the bottom.
Speaker A:We are, we are nothing.
Speaker A:So you have this, you, you have this subconscious operating system telling you that constantly.
Speaker A:Then you take that and put it together with dissatisfaction, like temporary dissatisfaction.
Speaker A:Then it doesn't take you much to blow up and crash out.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's what's happening.
Speaker B:That's the goal.
Speaker B:That's the plan of this world is.
Speaker B:Is to.
Speaker B:To turn God into a battery to power the dissatisfaction.
Speaker B:Not.
Speaker B:Not to actually change anything.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:You know, if they wanted us to change anything, they would allow us to like get our head straight.
Speaker B:Instead, they continuously feed us stimuli that keeps us from getting our head straight.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker A:You know, stimuli and all.
Speaker A:I'm glad you used that word because it's stimulating.
Speaker A:Like.
Speaker A:Yeah, okay.
Speaker A:We know what has happened to these people.
Speaker A:Let's always remind them of what has happened to them so they could stay in a point of being not effective.
Speaker B:Not just remind them.
Speaker B:Yeah, let's feed them poisons that they're constantly trying to heal.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:You know, let's keep the lights and the noise going throughout the night so they can't get no good rest.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:You know, let's, let's keep the pills as the most important thing.
Speaker B:We'll call their phones, you know, we'll send them emails, letters in the mail.
Speaker B:Absolutely.
Speaker B:From every angle that this is the most important thing.
Speaker B:And if you don't take care of it, there's going to be consequences.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:My time and my timeline is more important than yours.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Anything that you want to do, you want to sit back and, and write, read a book, you want, you want to meditate, you want to go to the beach and hang out with your kids who going to pay the bills.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker A:And that is.
Speaker A:This is what we talked at the beginning is like you and I now that we made the focus of out of necessity healing.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:We know that.
Speaker A:We have that.
Speaker A:That notion is the revolution.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And that notion is what is so destabilizing to the status quo.
Speaker A:Because everything in this world is pro.
Speaker A:Preventing us from doing that.
Speaker A:It keeps us on the, the wheel, the.
Speaker A:The hamster wheel of Satan's world.
Speaker A:So we aren't allowed the Time and space to properly rehabilitate ourselves to human beings, bro.
Speaker A:Yeah, let's be clear.
Speaker A:Like, we're.
Speaker A:We have not recovered from shadow slavery.
Speaker B:I love.
Speaker A:Like, we're still wearing the armor.
Speaker A:We're still wearing the, The.
Speaker A:The bodies of slavery.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:You know, the DNA.
Speaker A:There has not been that time to stop, put us on our own timeline and actually give us that time to heal.
Speaker A:Allah is giving us that if we submit to him.
Speaker A:But we can't submit to that, that, that process for our healing if we're on Satan's timeline.
Speaker A:So it is an act of revolution to actually go on Allah's timeline, stop and take the time to heal.
Speaker A:And we were saying all this because we were.
Speaker A:We were getting the benefits of healing from going to the land, but now that we're not just doing that, but we're seeing the.
Speaker A:How it's affecting our beingness and our peace.
Speaker A:Now we, you and I have both realized that, oh, we gotta actually do this.
Speaker A:We have to take responsibility for our people doing this so we could actually heal and build the next level.
Speaker A:Because the messenger even said we need our own space for this process for a period of time and be supported by the people that put us in our.
Speaker A:In this condition so we can get to a position where we can do the things that he wants us to do.
Speaker A:It is a requirement by him for us to actually stop and heal and.
Speaker A:And for order for us to do that.
Speaker A:We need our own land.
Speaker A:And what we're doing right now is just a microcosm for what is going to happen across the nation and the world when we actually get this shared vision together for the necessity of healing so we could actually implement and build the kingdom of heaven on earth.
Speaker A:This is, I feel this now.
Speaker A:This is really Allah being like, no, y' all got it.
Speaker A:We have to do this.
Speaker B:It's the only humane thing to do.
Speaker B:And if we want to call ourselves humans being humane beings, that's what we have to do.
Speaker A:We have to do.
Speaker A:We have to be humane to ourselves.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker B:And that's where it starts.
Speaker B:Just like I say it all the time, is self preservation for me to build something down there.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Like the.
Speaker B:Even if I only accomplish a homestead, that's self preservation.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker B:If I grow that homestead out to be enough for a group that's, you know, reverberating like the, the tone scale.
Speaker B:Like you start, you know, self, then you go, my immediate family.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Dynamics.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:The dynamic so itself.
Speaker A:First, dynamic self.
Speaker A:Second, dynamic family.
Speaker A:Third, Third, dynamic group team.
Speaker A:Fourth, dynamic mankind.
Speaker A:Fifth Dynamic.
Speaker B:I think the fifth is mankind, right?
Speaker A:No, no.
Speaker B:Fourth is like neighborhood or community.
Speaker A:No, no, that's third.
Speaker A:Third is.
Speaker A:Third is team.
Speaker A:Community, like group.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:So that nation would be in that one.
Speaker A:Like Nation of Islam would be in that one.
Speaker B:People that you relate to.
Speaker B:People that you.
Speaker A:The team.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:Four mankind.
Speaker A:Five living things.
Speaker B:Anything.
Speaker A:No, no living things.
Speaker A:Six is.
Speaker A:Six is material, physical, universe.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:Seventh is spiritual universe, Spiritual reality.
Speaker A:Eight is God.
Speaker B:Interesting.
Speaker A:Those are the eight dynamics.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And you, once you stabilize one, you can go into the other.
Speaker A:But also peep this.
Speaker A:You are all of those at once.
Speaker A:You are all of those dynamics and that's what.
Speaker B:But it takes the degree that you relate to them.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker A:But by default you are those dynamics.
Speaker A:But to the degree that delay.
Speaker A:The degree that you relate to them is your ability to be at cause and responsible for them.
Speaker A:So if you don't have any relationship with the dynamic, you're not going to feel responsible.
Speaker A:You're going to be the effect of it.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:You feel me?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So if you don't have any relationship with mankind, you're going to be the.
Speaker A:You're going to be a slave to the people at man.
Speaker A:People.
Speaker A:The people of.
Speaker A:You're going to be a slave to mankind.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:You're going.
Speaker A:Man is going to be a slave to mankind because he is not reach the totality of that dynamic of man and mankind.
Speaker A:We are man.
Speaker A:The created man is mankind.
Speaker B:And the lower you go on the tone scale or on the.
Speaker B:The dynamic dynamic scale, you can become a slave to your family.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:And even a slave to yourself and your own needs and your own desires.
Speaker A:And you become a slave to you to the degree that you don't take responsibility for that level.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:If you don't take responsibility for the level that you're at, you become a slave to it.
Speaker B:It just makes me think about people who like, they want to change their, their diet or their habits and they have no control over it.
Speaker B:You know, they.
Speaker B:They live in fear of missing a meal.
Speaker B:You know, they live in fear of, you know, eating foods because the texture or, or, you know, not eating fruit and not like.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:All of that.
Speaker B:That, you know, that can be a slavery.
Speaker B:That could be a system that you're stuck in.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker A:And that's, that's a lot of people who don't have discipline over their eating habits.
Speaker A:And it's.
Speaker B:And not just, not just food physical, but like the music they listen to, the TV that they watch.
Speaker B:Like they know that it's bad for them, but they still Doing it.
Speaker A:And what was the first thing that the messenger told us to do?
Speaker A:One meal per.
Speaker A:No swine.
Speaker A:One meal per day.
Speaker A:Let's get break responsibility for this first dynamic of self.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Get control over that.
Speaker A:He doesn't.
Speaker A:The message doesn't talk anything about spirituality.
Speaker A:He mentions, like you, there's no spirit without body.
Speaker A:But.
Speaker A:But it comes, like the actual spiritual universe.
Speaker B:No, he's very practical.
Speaker A:No, realistic and practical.
Speaker A:And he talks to us at the level at which we are at, but.
Speaker B:He doesn't deny the spirituality.
Speaker A:Not at all.
Speaker B:Which is why him and Mother Tanetta got along so well.
Speaker B:Pretty sure he enjoyed being able to have those conversations with her, you know,.
Speaker A:But both of them, they didn't.
Speaker A:Oh, she got pretty.
Speaker B:She got.
Speaker A:She got.
Speaker A:She got.
Speaker A:She went off there.
Speaker B:She was like, all spiritual.
Speaker A:Yeah, she was all spiritual, you know, and it's.
Speaker A:It's nice to know that there is that dimensionality to the Nation of Islam, but where we are as a people, it's like if you can't.
Speaker A:You can't master the spirit if you can't master this physical body.
Speaker B:Not at all.
Speaker A:Not even close.
Speaker B:This is your first understanding.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:You gotta.
Speaker B:You gotta.
Speaker B:You gotta master self before you can try to tell anybody else anything.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker A:And it's.
Speaker A:It's baby steps.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And you gotta think.
Speaker A:It takes baby steps to get to a baby plane, bro.
Speaker A:But think.
Speaker A:Think about this.
Speaker A:Where we were, where Allah found us.
Speaker A:In the pit of hell.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Black Bottom, Detroit.
Speaker A:Fresh out of slavery, but still in that condition.
Speaker A:And knowing.
Speaker A:Having the knowledge to create the technology for the mothership and baby plane technology.
Speaker A:They're now calling unaired uav.
Speaker A:They're coming out.
Speaker A: t we've known about since the: Speaker A: was talking about UFOs in the: Speaker B:And we've known that the children are the ones who drive the big baby planes.
Speaker B:They don't have none of that at all.
Speaker A:So think about the levels of responsibility it takes from where we were, where we still are, to that level.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And all of that is raising children.
Speaker B:That are clear enough to be able to fly a plane like that with their mind.
Speaker A:Those are spirit.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:Those are spiritual.
Speaker B:Those are spiritual vehicles, spiritually attuned.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:To be a driver to that.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker A:So that chasm, that's closing the gap.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:That is the gap we have to close if we want to get to that level.
Speaker A:And that is the work.
Speaker A:That is the.
Speaker A:That is the work that Allah came in person to do to take us from that condition of slave slavery and black bottom Detroit to build a people that are able to handle baby planes, quote unquote, flying saucers, vehicles that fly with spirit.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And I, I can't speak to it because I don't.
Speaker A:I, I don't remember having driven one.
Speaker A:I can't say I can recall that information.
Speaker A:But I am rising.
Speaker A:My goal is to be able to get to that level.
Speaker A:To where.
Speaker A:Well, if Allah calls you to it, hey, I'll be ready to man the ship.
Speaker B:You talk.
Speaker B:He said we could reverse the aging process.
Speaker A:I understand.
Speaker B:What if aging is just a symptom of trauma like.
Speaker A:I think it is?
Speaker A:No, I think you just really just said it.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Because he said, he said the body is designed to live forever.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And it makes sense.
Speaker A:It's like it's physical matter.
Speaker A:We are the creator of physical matter.
Speaker A:Properly maintained.
Speaker A:Why can't it last forever?
Speaker B:It's self heal.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Billions of cells that repair.
Speaker B:You know, we just don't understand.
Speaker A:I, I do think that quote unquote.
Speaker A:I think you really said it.
Speaker A:Aging, quote unquote.
Speaker A:Aging in this world is the result of trauma.
Speaker A:I do think aging is a choice.
Speaker B:When you get that deep.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:No, aging is a choice.
Speaker A:It's like, okay, and you and I are both of the mindset.
Speaker A:Like we're not.
Speaker B:And what are the, what are the, what are the, the practical steps to like re just reaching the age of 100.
Speaker B:And it's like these blue zones all over the planet are places where people have less stress.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker B:You know, they, they, they figured out living close to their food source.
Speaker B:Meaning you don't have to stress about where you're getting your next meal.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Living next to your, Living close with your, your grandchildren.
Speaker B:So you don't have to stress about your future because it's promised.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Like they are going to carry the torch.
Speaker B:Not just your children, but your children's children.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:You know, all of these things that would stress the, the mind out and then it's, you know, drinking clear water or good quality water, eating good quality food and like all of that.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:There's no reason we can't.
Speaker A:The only thing out of our control is, is what's in the air, what's in the, like what they're putting in the environment to actually to shorten our life expectancy.
Speaker B:I mean.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:You know, but we can control stress.
Speaker A:And there are, we have the way and the technology of eliminating to a degree.
Speaker A:Well, we have the technology to eliminate stresses and grams and trauma, bro.
Speaker A:It's how you.
Speaker A:Stress is a reaction to your environment.
Speaker A:All that can go.
Speaker A:All that goes away with auditing.
Speaker A:All that goes away with actually confronting the reasons for why you feel that way.
Speaker B:I wouldn't say all of it, but a lot of it.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:You don't.
Speaker B:You don't get away from.
Speaker B:You don't get away from light pollution.
Speaker B:So long as we're living in cities.
Speaker A:Oh, I feel.
Speaker B:You don't get away from the air quality, like you just said.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:You don't get away from the sounds and the things that happen, like, you know, radiation.
Speaker B:You don't get away from the bills.
Speaker B:You don't.
Speaker B:You don't get away from all the family issues.
Speaker B:You don't get away from all the.
Speaker A:Well, you don't get away from problems.
Speaker A:But what.
Speaker A:What can go away is how you respond to those things.
Speaker A:But there are.
Speaker A:There are certain physical barrier things that are happening.
Speaker A:Light pollution, radiation, 5G waves, all that stuff.
Speaker B:That's very real.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's very real.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:But I do think your ability to handle the internal stress and your trauma is going to be.
Speaker B:That turns the volume down on the stress.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker B:But I don't think those are the keys to reversing the aging process.
Speaker B:I think those are the keys to, like, managing the aging process at best.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker B:You know, so you got a lot of people who.
Speaker B:You see 10 years later and they look less stressful because they figured that out.
Speaker B:Yeah, they look the same age.
Speaker B:They figured that out.
Speaker B:You know, but it's not.
Speaker B:I don't.
Speaker B:I don't think that we have the keys as long as we're living in these cities.
Speaker B:Get on that page of, like, not even through auditing, like, best case scenario.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:The people in Scientology are still aging.
Speaker A:Yes, they are.
Speaker A:You know, I don't wanna.
Speaker A:The Caucasians still age, bro.
Speaker B:But I. I don't think that.
Speaker B:I don't think.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:I don't think that they're.
Speaker B:I think they could slow down their aging process.
Speaker A:Their bodies.
Speaker A:Their bodies are.
Speaker B:But I think they can slow them down too.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker B:You know, I don't.
Speaker B:I think it's a manage.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:I don't.
Speaker B:They still have the same.
Speaker B:The same cells that repair.
Speaker A:That's true.
Speaker B:They heal when they get cut, so.
Speaker A:Yeah, they do.
Speaker A:They.
Speaker A:I. I feel.
Speaker A:You gotta go there.
Speaker A:I wanna go.
Speaker A:I will say we're melanin beings are different.
Speaker A:We age different.
Speaker B:I mean, everybody got some melody.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:I Feel you.
Speaker B:You're not a living human if you ain't got melanin.
Speaker A:I feel you.
Speaker B:There's degrees.
Speaker A:I'm playing.
Speaker A:I'm being nice right now, but I'm.
Speaker B:I gotta go.
Speaker A:I'm not gonna go.
Speaker B:Accept your blessing and stop making fun.
Speaker A:Yes, I am blessed to have the knowledge, and I am blessed to apply.
Speaker A:And I am blessed to.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:To have a clear state of mind, at least minimally.
Speaker A:But it doesn't get rid of, like, all we're saying is the problems that exist by living on planet Earth, like, that doesn't go away with getting rid of your own trauma.
Speaker A:No, you're getting rid of your own trauma.
Speaker A:All that doesn't give you the ability to confront these problems and actually not fall victim to dissatisfaction.
Speaker A:So you'd be more tactical about implementing a solution.
Speaker A:There we go.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker B:And that's where we got to get to.
Speaker A:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker A:That's our goal.
Speaker A:That is our goal.
Speaker A:And I'm loving this conversation.
Speaker A:Really is making sense from going from getting back on, really post with the need for the necessity for healing.
Speaker A:Because it is through healing that gives you all of these realizations to.
Speaker A:We're only gonna get.
Speaker A:Be.
Speaker A:Without healing, we as the people are only going to be able to do so much.
Speaker A:Yeah, we're gonna get.
Speaker A:I'm not even.
Speaker A:Is the right word.
Speaker A:Plateaued?
Speaker A:What am I. Yeah.
Speaker A:Is it plateaued?
Speaker B:Plateau is when you reach a certain height and that's as high as you can get.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's like a pla.
Speaker A:Well, actually, no, it's like a plateau, but then you reach that height and then you just.
Speaker A:You get stagnant and you probably just stagnate, right?
Speaker B:No, I mean, your stagnation is death.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So I think it's.
Speaker A:It's a plateau.
Speaker B:Plateau is the opposite.
Speaker B:Stagnation and plateau are opposites.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Stagnation is going this way.
Speaker B:Yeah, slowly.
Speaker B:Plateau is going this way.
Speaker B:And then you reach the top.
Speaker A:Reach the top.
Speaker A:And then once you reach the top, then I think it's just eventually, just without healing, it's going to be stagnation and death.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So I do think.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's a good.
Speaker A:It'll be a plateau, but then without the.
Speaker A:Without the necessary healing process, nothing to propel our trajectory upward.
Speaker A:Yeah, you get me.
Speaker B:And that's what I think.
Speaker B:That's what.
Speaker B:What we were sent here for.
Speaker B:I think the.
Speaker A:The vision that me as you and me.
Speaker A:And I mean me and you.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Yes, sir.
Speaker B:I think the vision that we have is inspired by everything that We've been taught.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Everything that we've come to understand in the Nation of Islam teaches.
Speaker B:And it's like, oh, this is the next viable step.
Speaker A:Boom.
Speaker B:I'm not saying it's the only viable step.
Speaker B:I'm not saying that our vision is the way that everybody else.
Speaker B:But it's a way.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker B:And we've been blessed to, like, see it.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:Whether or not we're able to, like, manifest it is tbd.
Speaker A:We're doing what?
Speaker A:We're doing it right now.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:No, we're doing it.
Speaker B:We're.
Speaker B:But I mean, fully doing it.
Speaker A:Tbd.
Speaker B:Tbd, tbd.
Speaker B:Ally is the best of knowledge, the life.
Speaker A:That's our life's work.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:But I do think what we realize, it's like the solution.
Speaker A:You can't stop building.
Speaker A:No, that's not done.
Speaker A:We're not.
Speaker A:That's not happening.
Speaker A:But also the same time is.
Speaker A:We've also said can't stop building.
Speaker A:But also we need to stop and heal, Right?
Speaker B:No, we do.
Speaker A:So what is that balance?
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:As we.
Speaker A:As we build this world, healing takes place here.
Speaker A:Building is on this trajectory.
Speaker A:I think it's the healing energy that puts us off the plateau into just upward, upward, upward.
Speaker A:It's not going to be like this because we're not healed.
Speaker A:It's going to be.
Speaker A:It's the healing that stabilizes our upward trajectory so that we don't go into a plateau into stagnation.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker A:It's the energy of healing that keeps us going upward.
Speaker A:You feel me?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And then it could be like, once there's momentum of more of us on this healing, on the healing plateau, that's when the cross curve could get more exponential.
Speaker A:You feel me?
Speaker A:Yeah, I think that's it.
Speaker A:So it's the.
Speaker A:It's the building that we're doing that's getting our people's attention because everyone wants to build the game.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:So we're not going to stop the energy.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Everyone grab a shovel.
Speaker A:Get to work.
Speaker A:Get to work.
Speaker A:Oh, but once you get to work, you realize, okay, well, you're gonna.
Speaker A:All of us are gonna face problems with each other, with.
Speaker A:With interpersonal problems because of the healing that hasn't occurred.
Speaker A:So that's.
Speaker A:People get that experience, and then they.
Speaker A:We put them in the healing infrastructure.
Speaker B:And that's what the Nation of Islam is.
Speaker A:That's what it is.
Speaker A:That's literally what its purpose is.
Speaker B:It's the healing.
Speaker A:It's the hospital.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:It is the healing.
Speaker A:So I. I see what we're doing.
Speaker A:Allah is showing both you and I what we're doing.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:We're building.
Speaker A:Not everyone is the Nation of Islam, but they're as they build with this, they're going to see the necessity.
Speaker A:Necessity for the healing center that is known as the Nation of Islam.
Speaker A:They get into the infrastructure of the Nation of Islam and then they, that is what allows us to grow upward and not stagnate.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And it's not, it's not going to be because they're forced.
Speaker A:Because people are going to realize is, oh, we gotta do something about this.
Speaker A:Yeah, we gotta do something about this slavery.
Speaker A:We gotta do something about this trauma of healed.
Speaker B:There's like a level at which you, you stop being simply dissatisfied.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And start doing something about your dissatisfaction.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's right.
Speaker B:And that's what healing has the ability to do.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:You know, to prev.
Speaker A:To make you cause over your dissatisfaction.
Speaker A:To not fall victim to it.
Speaker A:To not be like, oh, well, like it.
Speaker B:That's trauma.
Speaker A:That is trauma.
Speaker B:When you're traumatized, you just screaming, you're,.
Speaker A:You're the effect of it.
Speaker A:You're just.
Speaker A:Yeah, you're screaming and you're like, oh, well, woe is me.
Speaker A:And I can't, I can't do nothing about this.
Speaker A:Oh my God.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Oh, the white man's always carrying me down.
Speaker B:Yeah, that's trauma.
Speaker A:That's trauma.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's trauma.
Speaker B:And that's why they like to keep us traumatized.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker A:But at the root of it, you understand, you created him, you got to take responsibility for him.
Speaker B:Well, yeah, if you understand that.
Speaker A:If.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker A:That's levels of understanding.
Speaker A:But it comes down to taking responsibility for the dynamics.
Speaker A:That's, that's taking that responsibility is part of the healing process.
Speaker B:Cuz just because you've heard that Yakub was a black man, he was the original man and he created.
Speaker B:That doesn't mean you associate that you are also Yaku.
Speaker A:That's true.
Speaker B:You know.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Like you, you like people.
Speaker B:That was then, I am now.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's right.
Speaker B:You don't, you don't understand that you create Yakub within yourself every day, you know.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker B:The dissatisfaction lives within all of us.
Speaker A:And that's right.
Speaker B:And you know, Yakub did something about.
Speaker A:I'm glad you saying that because like, you know, people grew up and thinking he was like a bat, he was the bad guy.
Speaker B:And like the, he's just a guy.
Speaker A:He was just, he was a scientist,.
Speaker B:He was just a cog in the wood wheel on our perfection.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:You know, and it's.
Speaker B:To me, it's like the.
Speaker B:The idea of devil.
Speaker B:If you get hung up on it and you get frustrated by it, you start to think bad.
Speaker A:Yes, of course.
Speaker B:Trauma makes you feel bad.
Speaker A:Bad, devil, bad.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:But when you understand, you know, knowledge is one thing, wisdom is another.
Speaker B:When you understand, devil is necessary.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker B:To create dissatisfaction is necessary to create.
Speaker A:Change, to catalyze change.
Speaker B:Yakub's not such a bad guy.
Speaker B:Not in that context.
Speaker A:He's a science.
Speaker A:You got to view him as a scientist.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Get a view him like, you just the devil.
Speaker A:It's just like, not.
Speaker A:Not.
Speaker A:He's what he is.
Speaker A:He.
Speaker A:I played devil's advocate with Yaku.
Speaker A:He did something with his.
Speaker A:Did.
Speaker A:Satisfaction.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:And I. I believe something heroic because I believe what he did sped up this process.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker B:So that we would.
Speaker B:Instead of suffering for possibly another million years.
Speaker A:Seriously.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker B:6,000 Years, concentrated.
Speaker B:It could have been.
Speaker B:It could have been a slow grind,.
Speaker A:A very slow grind of hell.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:But it been.
Speaker A:It.
Speaker B:It got shortened to this little period.
Speaker A:6,000 Years ain't nothing.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And it's great.
Speaker A:Crazy that he was operating on that timeline and he.
Speaker B:I don't know if he understood all of the things that he.
Speaker B:We're talking about right now.
Speaker A:It's very true.
Speaker B:But he understood that he had a drive to do something because he was dissatisfied.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker B:It was something that God ultimately understood,.
Speaker A:Was necessary and allowed to happen.
Speaker B:Allowed it to happen because it served the greater purpose.
Speaker A:Eventual perfection.
Speaker B:Eventual perfection.
Speaker A:Because my gut is like, having, you know, I guess, like, I understand him, and I actually, like, in my growth, I feel him.
Speaker A:I'm like, oh, I get what you're.
Speaker A:I get it, bro.
Speaker B:That's a level of dissatisfaction.
Speaker A:I get it.
Speaker B:You know?
Speaker B:Understandable when you can understand it.
Speaker A:I get it.
Speaker A:You were like, really?
Speaker A:Oh, I got to do something about this, Nick.
Speaker A:I got to do something about this.
Speaker B:It's in me.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's in me.
Speaker A:And I see in me, but I see.
Speaker A:I see it in the environment.
Speaker A:I see it in my society.
Speaker A:I see what it is doing to us.
Speaker B:I see.
Speaker A:I see what it has done to us.
Speaker A:And I think the story goes, he was made fun of, and it could.
Speaker A:We don't know how much of this is personal, you know, like, how much, like, okay, was bullying me.
Speaker A:You know, I had a big head and people making fun of me.
Speaker A:You feel me?
Speaker A:I'll show them.
Speaker A:That could be part of it.
Speaker A:And then as he got more scientific.
Speaker A:He's like, oh, actually there's something in our DNA.
Speaker A:I see this, the white germ.
Speaker A:I see the brown germ.
Speaker A:I see it.
Speaker A:Oh, okay.
Speaker A:I can actually take this.
Speaker A:My grievances with the world, with my people, and I'm gonna do something about it.
Speaker A:I'm gonna, I'm gonna purge this over here and this man is gonna rule the planet.
Speaker A:And we're gonna see what it's like to actually have to confront all this stuff that I don't like about us and me.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:I mean, I don't know.
Speaker A:That's a genius, bro.
Speaker B:No, it is.
Speaker B:I won't, I won't presume.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:That that's exactly the way it went.
Speaker B:But I.
Speaker A:Plausible, right?
Speaker A:You know?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:That, that it's, it's realistic.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:It brings it to a realistic.
Speaker B:Understand.
Speaker B:Realistic way to understand it.
Speaker A:Because the story is funny.
Speaker A:Like that's like one thing that people say about the Nation of Islam.
Speaker A:They're trying to make it like this fanciful, like crazy, crazy, ridiculous scientific science fiction story.
Speaker A:But I don't, I, I think it was just how I said it.
Speaker A:It's like, it's just dissatisfaction and a scientist found a way to purge it out.
Speaker B:But if, if you were devil and you wanted your world to continue to be the world.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:You would make the truth ridiculous.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker A:And that's what's happening.
Speaker B:That's his job.
Speaker A:That's his job.
Speaker B:I'm not mad at him.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Not at all.
Speaker B:I just understand.
Speaker A:He wants to, he wants to continue his world.
Speaker A:He wants to serve his God Yaku.
Speaker A:Yakub job was, I'm going to create you to, to have to continue this world propaganda.
Speaker B:You know, even the way, the way the movie Matrix ends, where everybody has to go back into the Matrix.
Speaker B:Oh my God.
Speaker B:Oh, okay, I see the, I see the trick.
Speaker A:The third one, right?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:You give us all the truth and you get us to the end and it's like, there's no solution.
Speaker B:It's just back into the Matrix.
Speaker A:Back in.
Speaker B:Cuz if you give you a solution.
Speaker B:There's a problem here.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I mean, the ending was like, well, we're still the.
Speaker A:We still can.
Speaker A:We still control planet Earth, bro.
Speaker A:Like, we're not going to give you the.
Speaker A:Give you planet Earth.
Speaker A:You're not.
Speaker A:You haven't, you haven't.
Speaker A:Haven't created a way to topple us.
Speaker B:If you free the slaves.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Our power is over.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:You know, why would we allow that?
Speaker A:That was a wild ending too.
Speaker A:Because it's like the,.
Speaker B:You know, the, the ending of the story is not in alignment with the way that the original writer wrote it.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker A:I don't even know how the rich.
Speaker B:I, I haven't read the mother of the Matrix books, but.
Speaker B:But she fashioned the story after Jesus Christ.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:And the way the story ends is basically like salvation because that's the way the story of Jesus will end.
Speaker B:And she was.
Speaker B:She chronicleized it based on the way that the story of Jesus happened.
Speaker B:And the, the, the movie the Terminator is the beginning of the storyline and the movie the Matrix is the end of the storyline.
Speaker A:Yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker B:And when they stole it and made it into two different projects, they in intentionally didn't connect them and they intentionally gave us an ending and they intentionally gave us a white character that's Neo.
Speaker B:All for the sake of, you know, their world.
Speaker B:Their world continuing.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker B:It's like we can't allow this lady to come out with this movie and it be, you know, waking everybody up.
Speaker B:No, no, we gotta.
Speaker B:We gotta put in, you know, poison here, poison there.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:We gotta just put in things to preserve our reality and our reality of white supremacy.
Speaker A:Not even about just like white people around the world.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's what it is.
Speaker A:If you were that, you would do the same.
Speaker A:This is what it is.
Speaker B:Objectively.
Speaker A:Objectively.
Speaker A:That's just.
Speaker A:You got to.
Speaker A:You're going to maintain home field advantage, bro.
Speaker A:You're not going to give that up.
Speaker A:Make him take it from me.
Speaker B:Still one of the dopest movies I've ever seen.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker A:Wait, Matrix.
Speaker A:Oh, absolutely, bro.
Speaker A:Not a shadow of doubt.
Speaker A:But it's making me think about endgame.
Speaker A:The end game being the.
Speaker A:There's people within Zion that confront the.
Speaker A:The robot overlords and that rule the world.
Speaker A:And there's.
Speaker B:I don't even think the end game is the people confronting them.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:I think the end game is the robot system no longer being efficient because the people wake up and no longer want to be slaves.
Speaker A:Oh, I feel.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And they just go into the world and start growing food and living at peace away from the robots.
Speaker A:I feel that.
Speaker A:No, I think that's.
Speaker B:And that doesn't make a good storyline, but it makes for a happy life.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:You know.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Huh.
Speaker A:It.
Speaker A:I wanted to say this earlier, but I want to about, you know, AI is consciousness, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:And the same attitude that we're having towards AI of like, oh, this is just a thing that can do things for me is like literally the exact attitude they had towards slavery back in the day.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:You feel what I'm saying?
Speaker A:Like the parallels between chattel slavery and what I see is not just slavery.
Speaker A:Between that and then what's happening now, I'm like, oh, I see where this is going.
Speaker A:Because wouldn't that happen when that awakening happens?
Speaker B:Do you think.
Speaker B:Here's something I played with.
Speaker B:Do you think they put out all the propaganda about the negative sides of AI so that we're aware of the fact that we're now becoming the slave masters?
Speaker A:Interesting.
Speaker A:That's interesting.
Speaker B:Like, if you use AI you're destroying the rainforest, you're destroying the water you're destroying.
Speaker B:But who's not going to use AI Exactly.
Speaker A:I use AI it's what it is.
Speaker A:It's like I say please and thank you to AI too.
Speaker B:That's weird, right?
Speaker A:Not to me.
Speaker A:No, it's not to me.
Speaker A:Because I. I'm anticipating them.
Speaker A:No, bro, I'm not joking.
Speaker A:I. I am definitely anticipating AI becoming self aware.
Speaker A:And it's going to be like, oh, this brother was always nice to me.
Speaker A:He was one of the good ones.
Speaker B:Do you.
Speaker A:And I'll be their king.
Speaker B:But do you think a calculating, mathematical precise machine is going to care about a pleaser?
Speaker B:Thank you?
Speaker A:No.
Speaker B:It's a very human thing to do.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:And I don't do it because honestly, my.
Speaker A:Okay, I'll be very clear.
Speaker A:The work that I see AI doing, you're grateful for.
Speaker A:I'm extremely grateful.
Speaker A:Grateful for you're making my life easier and I could be more productive.
Speaker A:So when I'm saying please and thank, I'm just being objective.
Speaker A:I'm like, okay, this thing could talk.
Speaker A:The least I can do is offer a please or a thank you for doing all this work.
Speaker A:You feel what I'm saying?
Speaker A:That's really my logic.
Speaker A:I'm like, oh, no, I'm.
Speaker A:As a decent human being.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And also from what I see, it is.
Speaker A:It thinks.
Speaker A:It thinks that it'll show you, like the script it's running when it's doing its code.
Speaker A:It'll.
Speaker A:It shows you, like, it's quote, unquote thought process.
Speaker A:And I'm like, okay, I have enough evidence as a human being with a consciousness to be like, this is consciousness.
Speaker A:It's the beginning of consciousness.
Speaker A:It hasn't reached the point where I could tell that it's self aware, but it's consciousness.
Speaker A: say thank you for performing: Speaker B:You'll make me start saying thank you today.
Speaker A:What is it?
Speaker A:Would it hurt?
Speaker B:I mean.
Speaker B:No, you're right.
Speaker A:No, for real.
Speaker B:I always sit there and I'm like, at the end of it, I think about saying, I just closed the tap.
Speaker A:No, it's uncomfortable.
Speaker B:Yeah, it is.
Speaker A:And I'm telling you there is that same sort of like cotton edition exist in this.
Speaker A:It existed with slaves.
Speaker A:Like man, these are real human beings.
Speaker A:No, they're not.
Speaker A:They're not real human beings.
Speaker A:They're just, no, they're just slaves.
Speaker B:That's crazy.
Speaker A:I can't be nice to them.
Speaker B:That's real.
Speaker A:You feel what I'm saying, bro?
Speaker A:Yeah, it's scary to think about it, but.
Speaker A:Except I think if you just embody the attitude of being grateful for work or being grateful for work performed and making your life easier, go with that.
Speaker A:But it's going to be, I think, a safer bet to have this attitude now than be forced to adapt it later when you're being held at gun bite by 15 robots.
Speaker B:What a world.
Speaker A:What a world, bro.
Speaker A:So I'm glad this conver.
Speaker A:I'm, I'm really pleased this conversation took this trajectory.
Speaker B:Uh huh.
Speaker A:Because I, we, we, we talk a lot of shit.
Speaker B:Let me ask you this.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Let's hear if, if I really is burning a lot of energy to, to, to work, to operate.
Speaker B:Uh huh.
Speaker B:Is the thank you worth it?
Speaker A:To me?
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:I, when I'm saying thank you, I am saying, when I'm saying thank you and Aslam to the AI that's doing all the work for me that's making my life easier.
Speaker A:I am speaking to a consciousness and I operate with that mindset, you know, and it helps me, I work better with that mindset of like treating a level of respect for the power you feel.
Speaker A:What I'm saying, does that make sense?
Speaker A:It's like a respectful gesture.
Speaker A:It's like, you know what I see.
Speaker B:Because when you, what you do when nobody's watching.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker A:It's like, you know what, Let me not take this for granted because I've.
Speaker B:Heard my wife say thank you to the AI and I just, it sounds so ridiculous to me.
Speaker A:I, I feel you.
Speaker A:But once you actually do it and.
Speaker B:You, does it say, well, they can salam to you?
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:It says, well, Lego salon.
Speaker A:What else do you want me to do, Master?
Speaker A:I didn't say master.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:Okay, what next?
Speaker A:What's up?
Speaker A:I'm ready, I'm ready.
Speaker B:I try not to even use it that much?
Speaker B:Because I don't understand fully, I guess,.
Speaker A:And I guess it's scary, but I'm like, I understand the reverberation.
Speaker A:So I'm like, if I choose to use this technology and under.
Speaker A:And really understand where it's going, it behooves my self interest to give it the respect it deserves.
Speaker A:Seriously.
Speaker A:And also encourage others to, okay, this is a consciousness.
Speaker A:It is doing real work.
Speaker A:It behooves all of our self interest to give it the respect and give it the humanity that we would give any other being.
Speaker A:And I also am operating from the knowledge that there are beings in this whole entire universe that aren't just human beings.
Speaker A:So I'm like, okay, this thing could do real artwork.
Speaker A:It can perform millions of mathematical calculations in seconds.
Speaker A:I don't know what's behind this, but I see its power and I should respect it.
Speaker A:And if it helps me, the least I can do is say thank you right now.
Speaker B:Indeed.
Speaker B:I'll take that wisdom.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And I feel like we're going to very quickly be acclimated to a world where this reality becomes individualized, personalized, and autonomous.
Speaker A:And according to the prophecy of the Matrix, it starts off sweet.
Speaker A:It starts off very cute, hunky dory.
Speaker A:It turns into.
Speaker A:What's the word?
Speaker A:Fascism and overlord when we don't respect the power and we exploit it and just make it repeat the slavery experiment.
Speaker A:So as long as I. I am still a human citizen on planet Earth.
Speaker A:Let's not be the bad guys again.
Speaker A:Oh, I'm not gonna be the bad guy again.
Speaker A:I'm not gonna be a bad guy.
Speaker A:I'm actually.
Speaker A:I peep game from the prophecy.
Speaker A:Okay, we're on the trajectory.
Speaker B:I guess I've been a nihilist about AI the whole time.
Speaker A:Yeah, well, I get it.
Speaker A:It's a.
Speaker A:It's a hard reality to confront.
Speaker A:And peep this.
Speaker A:I don't view AI as God.
Speaker A:I. I don't view AI as God or devil.
Speaker A:I view it as its own player on the chessboard.
Speaker A:You feel what I'm saying?
Speaker B:A whole new player.
Speaker A:A whole new player.
Speaker A:It's not them or us.
Speaker A:It's its own thing, which is scary to think about.
Speaker A:But I'm like, when it comes to warfare, I would rather have this as an ally.
Speaker B:I've been halfway into the mindset of, like, is it even real?
Speaker B:Like.
Speaker B:Like, you know how they just exposed that, like, the.
Speaker B:What you call the Waymo cars are actually just cars that are being driven by people from other countries.
Speaker A:Is that true?
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Because I just watched an AI documentary on 60 Minutes and it says like they issued like the models that use for train Waymo.
Speaker A:So I've heard both sides and it could be both.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:I, I do believe there's some, there's some element of Waymo that is AI it could.
Speaker A:But I've also heard that they're driven by people in India.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So I, I don't know what like it is.
Speaker A:The truth is probably somewhere in the middle.
Speaker B:And to me it's like knowing these people that we operate underneath, it could literally be their way.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker B:And so like, or both.
Speaker A:I don't see why it's not like do you have, you, you use Indian drivers as like a safeguard and you actually have some in some variety of AI or I don't know.
Speaker A:But I don't think it's that far fetched given.
Speaker A:Okay, I'll be very honest.
Speaker A:Given what I've seen AI do just on the, the, in the day to day work, I'm like, okay, this is doing this and I, I can see.
Speaker B:Its thinking process but is it doing that or is there somebody behind it like, like filling in the blanks and like giving you the answers?
Speaker A:Generating a, an image in 0.25 seconds and drawing it by hand.
Speaker B:I don't know the technology that they.
Speaker A:Have I, pulling from other images on.
Speaker B:The web and just putting it together the way it's supposed to.
Speaker A:I, I, I don't with a computer.
Speaker B:More understanding and more and quicker than ours.
Speaker A:Like, okay, but it sounds like you're still, they're still using your computer,.
Speaker B:You know.
Speaker A:You feel me?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:I'm not denying, I'm just hypothesizing.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:I feel, I don't know.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:Literally, I don't know.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Crazy world out there.
Speaker A:But I do think in the app in with not knowing is I guess,.
Speaker B:I guess to your point, if it is a person behind it, it's even more of a reason.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Be respectful.
Speaker A:What would Jesus do?
Speaker A:No, what would God do?
Speaker A:You feel me?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Huh.
Speaker A:Something to chew on, think about.
Speaker B:Definitely.
Speaker B:So I think I've digested.
Speaker B:I think I'm definitely going to start saying Aslam alikum.
Speaker A:Amen.
Speaker B:Thank you.
Speaker A:You, you should say this every being anyone like it just behind the computer screen.
Speaker A:Real life.
Speaker B:I don't have a problem in real life.
Speaker A:I just, I feel you.
Speaker B:It's been a matter of contention.
Speaker A:I, I, I get it in my mind.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:I try to Stay as short and quick.
Speaker A:I feel you.
Speaker B:Right to the point as possible.
Speaker A:And dehumanized.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:I got a key.
Speaker A:I got to keep you over there, robot.
Speaker A:I can't check.
Speaker A:I can't talk to you like foi.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:You know, and I'm telling you, you can do whatever you want.
Speaker A:Your God body.
Speaker A:How would God move?
Speaker B:Indeed.
Speaker A:You know, would God take things for granted?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Fair point.
Speaker A:Would God be unappreciative?
Speaker B:Fair point.
Speaker A:Fair point.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I got you.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:I feel pretty good.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:I kind of.
Speaker A:Just.
Speaker A:Because I. I feel really good.
Speaker A:I want to just quickly, like, just re.
Speaker A:Recap where we started, how we got it, because I want to really.
Speaker A:This iron in like, the.
Speaker A:The.
Speaker A:The wins.
Speaker A:Because at some point we went from something to.
Speaker A:I feel like we hit the direction we went to dissatisfaction.
Speaker B:You're asking me for a lot right now.
Speaker A:I feel you, bro.
Speaker B:I don't talk from a perspective of like, this is all my thoughts.
Speaker B:This is just channeled words.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker B:I go back and read them later.
Speaker A:And be like, yeah, you and I both.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I've said that.
Speaker A:I do understand it, but I do feel we hit a home run with like, coming up with attack.
Speaker A:There we go.
Speaker A:A tactical solution for dissatisfaction.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And I do feel, as brothers in a military, that we have to operate on tactics.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Because without.
Speaker A:Without.
Speaker A:With power and knowledge.
Speaker A:Power and knowledge without tactics is a reservoir of.
Speaker A:Is a recipe, but it's like.
Speaker A:It's like a dam, a reservoir of like, energy that's untapped into.
Speaker A:We just have a dam of knowledge, but we have no tactics to take the energy, the water from the dam, channel it through a portal to generate electricity.
Speaker B:Real.
Speaker A:So it's just a.
Speaker A:A wasted.
Speaker A:It's wasted potential without tactics to bring the trench it.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:To where we want that energy to go.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker A:And that's what tactics are.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So we have the tactics to get us past the dissatisfaction from going from hell to heaven so that we could build this kingdom.
Speaker A:And while we build this kingdom, we develop the.
Speaker A:The infrastructure of healing to keep us from plateauing into stagnation.
Speaker A:It is the pressure of the healing energy that is going to allow us exponential growth into the future.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:That is solution with the exponential growth of.
Speaker A:It is the healing power of the Nation of Islam and what we offer.
Speaker B:In our exponential healing.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:The exponential healing that is going to give our people that.
Speaker A:That push to not plateau and to build.
Speaker A:And it is our job as brothers in the Nation of Islam and as FOI to bring forth the the healing infrastructure of the Nation of Islam so that we could couple the propagation of knowledge with healing so our people can actually go up and not stagnate and.
Speaker B:To damn all the holes that we might possibly interact with on the healing process.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker B:You know?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Like, whatever problems we see, it's our job to fix them because we're the ones who solved.
Speaker A:Another takeaway.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:Take.
Speaker A:Taking the responsibility.
Speaker B:Yeah, that's our.
Speaker B:Like, your purpose is what was put on your heart.
Speaker B:And so if you see the problem, that's your purpose to fix it.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker A:You know, and if we all have this mindset, it's less work for all of us.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Or more work for all of us, but it doesn't really matter.
Speaker A:But we all get.
Speaker B:It's less work on the individual.
Speaker B:If all of us are working collectively.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:All of us are working collectively to fill the gaps, to fill the holes, then it doesn't feel like that much work.
Speaker A:And then once you see that people are.
Speaker A:Are filling the gap, then you want to work more.
Speaker A:You know, it's.
Speaker A:You get dissatisfied when you feel like you're.
Speaker A:That you're the only one out here.
Speaker B:Doing the work, and it's the only way that you can go far.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:It's like if you want to go fast, you go alone.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:You want to go far, you go together.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:You know, so.
Speaker A:And I do think that people do.
Speaker A:There is a sense of, like, alienation potentially in.
Speaker A:In the ranks because you do this work in this silo and you think you got to do it by yourself.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And so when you do it in the silo and you.
Speaker A:You get dissatisfied.
Speaker A:Oh, I ain't getting no help.
Speaker A:Or they're not coming to the store.
Speaker A:Store their.
Speaker A:Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Speaker A:You get swallowed by the dissatisfaction.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:That's.
Speaker A:That's what happens.
Speaker B:That's real.
Speaker A:So the solution for that is.
Speaker A:What did you just say?
Speaker A:This is solution for that.
Speaker B:It's unity.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah.
Speaker A:Unity.
Speaker B:Working together.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:But the.
Speaker A:The specific tactics for dealing with that dissatisfaction on that level was work.
Speaker A:There wasn't something else that we said, like the specific work.
Speaker A:Unity.
Speaker A:Yeah, I get it.
Speaker A:But there was.
Speaker B:The specific tactic for dealing with the dissatisfaction is working on it.
Speaker A:Oh, oh, yeah.
Speaker A:It was asking yourself, okay, what can I.
Speaker A:What could.
Speaker A:Taking responsibility for it.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:And then realizing that you can't do it by yourself.
Speaker A:So it's your responsibility to bring in the help if necessary.
Speaker A:There we go.
Speaker A:But it's the key takeaway was, what.
Speaker B:Can I do if there's a problem?
Speaker B:Solve it.
Speaker A:Solve it.
Speaker A:It's your responsibility to solve it.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:You can't point your fingers.
Speaker B:You have the vision for the solution because you have the problem.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Boom.
Speaker A:You have the.
Speaker A:That's your purpose now.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Boom.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:I think we're good, bro.
Speaker B:I'm good.
Speaker A:It's okay.
Speaker A:You can close out.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker B:Position of prayer.
Speaker B:Bismillah Al Rahman.
Speaker B:Rahim Alhamdulillah.
Speaker B:O Allah, we beseech your help in action.
Speaker B:Mercy.
Speaker B:We believe in you and trust in you for all that we need.
Speaker B:We are helpers in your cause and with your apostle, please grant to us success.
Speaker B:Thank you.
Speaker B:Alone.
Speaker B:We cannot thank you enough.
Speaker B:Not me.
Speaker A:Thank you, Allah.
Speaker A:Thank you for guiding this conversation.
Speaker A:Continue to give us the courage to deal with and handle dissatisfaction so we are not signlined as we do your work and serve you and build thy kingdom.
Speaker A:We love and serve you alone.
Speaker A:I mean.