Join us for the latest eLearning Africa Podcast - In Conversation with Mark West. Chatting with Rob Vember, Mark provides a sobering assessment of how the world has fared regarding education during the Covid-19 pandemic. Describing it as a story of “exclusion, heightened inequities, diminished learning, and diminished educational experiences”. West acknowledges the need to look at how educational technologies can improve learning and efficiencies but emphasises the fundamental need for providers of education to look at how they can contribute to the holistic wellbeing of learners. Mark shares Unesco’s ideas on how to better centre society’s most marginalised, advocates for more online public spaces for public education, and emphasises the need for creativity and pedagogical innovation about how to use the strengths of the digital space to improve teaching and learning.