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Step into Clover Club with host Erika Audrey and bubbly guest Wendy from The Bubbly Talk. This episode is a tasty mix of food influencing, decoding tipping norms, mastering social media growth, and exploring the liberating world of being childfree. Join the conversation for a delightful rendezvous that'll leave you hungry for more insights and laughs!

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Welcome to Clover club, everybody.

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This is your host, Erica, and I am

delighted to be sitting here with my

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lovely friend, Wendy from the bubbly talk.

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Uh, when do you hire?

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Hi.

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Thank you.

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Wendy's nervous.

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Um, thank you so much for joining us.

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Well, I'm happy to be here,

but yes, a little nervous.

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I it's so surprising.

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So Wendy is, would you describe

yourself like a food influencer?

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Is that an accurate description?

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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, I assumed Wendy would have done like a

million podcast and I'm like, oh my gosh.

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She said yes to do my podcast.

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And so I'm like, Wendy, like

you've done this before.

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Right.

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And she's like, Nope.

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And I'm like, oh my

God, this is a big deal.

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So we're getting unfettered

access to Wendy right now.

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And I just, if you're listening, I just

need you to know this is a big deal.

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Only because I love you.

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I, so I so appreciate that.

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The feeling is mutual.

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, so Wendy and I, we met a couple

years ago and then have been

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social media friends ever since.

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And then.

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I think we talked about this

Monday, but you know that my friend

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Brian lives in your neighborhood.

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Yes.

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So if you've listened to our

earlier episodes, Brian was

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on episode a five, I think.

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Adventures with Brian, the clown.

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That's what your neighbor?

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FYI.

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Oh my God.

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That's crazy.

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So I've got two people

from the same neighborhood.

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And so I'm like no big deal.

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I love it.

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I love it.

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David, you should listen to that one.

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It's pretty fun.

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It's all about travel tips

and you love to travel also.

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So yeah.

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So when do you obviously.

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You're into food.

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Just a little bit, just

a teensy, tiny bet.

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How did all of this start?

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So.

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I worked in the food industry

for a long, long time.

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Okay.

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Hostess waitress,

bartender events, manager.

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And so.

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I've been with my husband

for forever and ever.

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But when we, when we met, he owned a

restaurant in town and a nightclub.

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Okay.

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And so.

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We would either be at one of

his two spots all the time.

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And then he got invited to all of the

coolest events, like all the openings.

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He knew everyone.

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And.

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After we got married, he sold everything.

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Okay.

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And I missed.

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Like, I mean, I was like, we were

out seven nights a week till 4:00 AM.

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Yeah.

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And, um, I kinda missed that and

I missed all the new openings and

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everyone used to always ask me, like,

where should we go for date night?

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Where should we go for

girls night, happy hour?

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And I was like, you know what,

I'm starting this Instagram page.

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Just for fun.

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. And, , yeah, I just like slowly took off.

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How long ago did you start your account?

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, 2019.

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Okay.

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So that's like, not that long.

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And I didn't honestly, it

was private until:

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Really?

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Yeah.

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Oh, they're like the end of 2019.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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So in that time you have really leaned

in and amassed quite a following.

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Did it come naturally?

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Was it really intentional?

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How did you do this?

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I don't know.

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Um, you know, when I first

started it just, I was clueless.

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. And Instagram used to be easy.

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You know, you take a

picture and that was it.

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You.

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Post a picture of a pizza you're done.

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Yeah.

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Now, like video stuff.

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I am not 20 years old and there used

to be like 15 of us influencers.

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Now there are hundreds in Atlanta.

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Yeah.

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It's just it.

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I mean, I can't keep up

and they're all young.

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They're all in their twenties.

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I yeah, no, I can't keep up with that.

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And at first it stressed me out

cause I do this full-time now

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this is what I do for a living.

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Yeah, and it, I mean, and some

days I still get stressed, but.

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I do the best I can.

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And I'm like, you know what?

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I still, get invited to events

like more than I can attend.

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I'm out seven nights a week.

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Pretty much.

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Yeah.

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And I make a good living with it.

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And you know, I'm not trying

to keep up with these kids.

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I'm too old for this.

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Just be yourself.

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Yeah.

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You can do.

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Yeah.

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A hundred percent.

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So yeah.

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, so, okay.

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You started it in 2019.

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How long did it take until you

were like, oh, this has legs.

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, this can be my only income source.

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Oh God.

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A couple of years.

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Okay.

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So , I started doing this full time.

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July of 2022.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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So I had been working for an

it company for almost 10 years.

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Okay.

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After I got out of the restaurant

business, that's what I was doing.

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Worked from home.

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It was easy, whatever, but

boring, boring, boring.

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Yeah.

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And, , yeah, so 20, 22, I was so busy

and making pretty much the same as

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I was making with the it company.

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If not more.

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Okay.

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So my husband was like,

yeah, just give it a try.

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And here we are.

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, yeah, some weeks are better than others.

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Sure.

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Some ways.

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I'm like, why am I doing this to myself?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I mean, I don't know how people do it.

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Like the hiring process, trying to find

people for their places , especially,

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I'm just looking for a very limited

hours, you know, I don't need full time.

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I barely need like a, I don't

even know if you consider it.

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Part-time I need a kid.

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I need a kid in school.

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Yeah, it's just, it's hard

to find what I'm looking for.

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Will you tell us exactly

what you're looking for.

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So if someone's listening and know

someone, we can send them your way.

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Yeah.

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I just need someone with a flexible

schedule that has time at night.

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And likes to go to fun events and I

just really need assistance with videos.

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I really need help with my emails.

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If you send me an email and

you don't hear back for a few

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months, , I'm just flooded out.

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Like, yeah, I can't keep up.

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I'm like , trying to stay

above the water, but I can't.

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And yeah, just, , I send a lot of

pitches to companies like big brands.

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They'll be like, Hey, send us.

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your rape kit and send us

your idea for this project.

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Yeah.

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So you have to come up with a whole.

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Thing for them.

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And it's just, it takes a lot of time.

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, So is that typical?

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I think a lot of people who

aren't in your industry and by

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that, I mean, an influencer.

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, Uh, you know, we see the final

product, but we have no idea

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what happens behind the scenes.

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So it was that typical that you

would approach brands versus brands

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approaching you, or is it both of

like, How does that normally go?

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I would say out of the ones I

work with, I probably approach.

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15% maybe.

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Okay.

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If even that, but a lot of them

I'll get an email and they'll be

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like, we'd love to work with you.

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Especially a lot of travel stuff.

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Hotel groups.

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Tourism boards and things.

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But they want to hear.

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Yeah.

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They want to hear like, so this

is what we're thinking, but

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like, how would you do this?

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We want you to put

together a proposal for us.

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Okay.

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And what your rate would

be for these deliverables?

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Dada.

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And you got to put it together and it's.

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It's just, . I don't have time for that.

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And I'm half blind now, because

all I do is edit videos on my phone.

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Um, the camera and it's just,

it all takes a lot of time.

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It looks easy and fun, especially when

the videos now are like five seconds long.

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Totally.

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You don't know that took

hours to put together.

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That took me two hours.

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, I had, , Blake from it's our

Atlanta on a couple episodes ago.

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And he was like, I spent about

nine hours on each post and

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I'm like, that's so much time.

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And his page is not monetized.

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And I'm like, I don't think

anybody would realize that much

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work goes in behind the scenes.

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Yeah.

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, We, I can use myself as a great example.

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social media is not intuitive to me and

I've got personal social media, of course.

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And then, you know, my business

brands also have social media pages.

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None of them are, I

wouldn't say super popular.

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, like the people who follow us are our

real customers and, you know, we've

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got good engagement and all of that.

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But when it comes to growing and

scaling a social media presence,

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oh my God, it's so difficult.

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, and then you realize , a difference

between having a high follower account

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and having a high follower account.

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That's engaged in your stuff.

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And I think that that's, I just, it's so

overwhelming and once reels and Tik TOK

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and all of that came out and I realized

how much of that I would have to be doing

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on top of actually running my business.

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I was like, how do people do this?

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We don't.

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We lose our minds.

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We don't sleep like.

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Yeah.

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It's no, it's, , I mean,

and a lot of it's fun.

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Like I like doing the videos,

but like, this week, the holiday

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seasons really crazy, like sure.

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I mean, you talk about

invites to holiday bars.

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I love holiday bars.

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I love a holiday cocktail.

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But not seven.

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Yeah.

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I've been to 12 in nine days and I have.

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For more this week.

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Oh my God.

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I didn't even realize there

were that many in Atlanta.

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That's not even half of them.

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And I only went to one

that's outside the perimeter.

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Cause I normally, you know, I

don't, I don't go out there.

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It's too far.

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Well, especially when it's like,

come drink, like, I'm sure you have

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to be mindful of like, oh, I want.

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I talked to her yesterday.

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I barely drank anything

just cause I was by myself.

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Like, okay, let me tell you.

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I went to cute little spot, but.

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I was there at three in the afternoon.

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Everyone's just back from the holidays.

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Noah could go with me.

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They sat me in an igloo by myself.

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It was ridiculous.

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I was cute, but can I

sit at the bar please?

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I was sitting in this little

igloo by myself with an eggnog.

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Like for the love of God,

I was just put me inside.

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Hi.

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Yeah.

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You're like, I can take a video

of this igloo, but I don't need

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to be like sitting alone with.

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Oh, my God.

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It was hilarious.

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That's so funny.

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Do you ever get invited to do

things where you're like, fuck no.

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Oh, every day, really?

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We just don't respond

to those, like, okay.

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Is there, , has anybody of course no

name dropping or anything, but like

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have what is the craziest pitch or

request or whatever that you've gotten.

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Oh, God.

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I mean.

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I get, I don't know.

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I get asked all the time to go,

like to Duluth for a smoothie.

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Will you do two videos for us?

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Like what.

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And I don't charge local

restaurants to work with them.

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Yeah.

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So basically an exchange for my time

videos, posted stories posted for you.

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You know, they just provide free meal.

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And drinks.

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Yeah, and it's not unlimited,

you know, there's a cap.

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Sure.

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But like, you know, I'm not

driving two hours for a smoothie.

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And doing, you know, spending

hours of videos, hours of my car.

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Like that's just crazy.

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Yeah.

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You know, they think you're rude.

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So I just don't respond.

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Like if you tell them, oh, that's

too far, like just don't respond.

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Like it's just nicer.

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Uh, I am sure you know who Keithley is.

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Yeah.

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He, I, and I, I like that he does this,

but before he reviews a restaurant,

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he'll be like, this place has been

blowing me up for like two years

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and he'll take a screenshot of the

DMS and you'll see like, Dozens of

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messages from the same restaurant.

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Being like, please come, you know, dah.

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Um, which I think is super interesting,

but I knowing that him and you and

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everybody like this, it's like,

I'm sure your DMS are on fire.

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Like.

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Yeah.

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I'm going to, I'm not Keith Lee.

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I'm like, ah, they're not

bad on fire, but no, I do.

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I do get a lot, but I try

to stay on top of mine.

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Um, And I mean, honestly, like

if I'm not interested, I will,

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you know, I'll politely decline.

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Yeah, or I just won't respond and oh,

and also like, if someone's not following

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me and I'm not, if we're not following

each other, it goes to my junk mail.

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Which I never checked.

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It goes to like a request thing.

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Yeah.

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So I just, otherwise I

was getting too flooded.

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So I'm like you have to follow me

and send me a message properly.

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Email me, like if I don't respond

email because I don't have time.

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Yeah.

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But I try to respond to

everything I can, but sure.

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I just slotted.

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It's a lot.

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We it's kind of similar for the Hawkinson

Kluver, Instagram brands that don't

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follow us, that we don't carry will send

us like, Hey, like, will you consider

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carrying our candles or whatever the thing

is, And, you know, a couple of times a

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year, I'll go through that junk folder

and I'll see all of these messages, but

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I'm like, you got to at least follow me

and just like make a personal connection

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before you're asking me exactly.

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Um, you know, it's just, it's.

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The etiquette, I think behind this

type of stuff is new and some people.

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I don't know if it's even that they don't

get it, but I think we just have different

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expectations of how these interactions

should go and what makes people feel.

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, Interested in connecting, you

know, I think they don't get it.

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And also I get so many emails

that don't even say, hi, Wendy.

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They just say, Hey, hello.

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They're just like, they're sending a mass.

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Yeah, and I just can't stand those.

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I agree.

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I'm like, I mean, you

don't even know my name.

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Just put this much effort into it.

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I agree.

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I couldn't email the other day

that was like, I think our brands

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would be a really good fit, dah.

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And it was a bunch of like kids

clothes made in China and I'm

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like, there's two things about me.

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You need to know.

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I don't sell a bunch of

cheap shit made in China.

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It looks like literally goes

against my brand values.

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Also.

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I am not a kid person.

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I am not about that kid lifestyle.

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I lead with that.

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Everybody who knows me knows

I don't fuck with kids.

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Here here.

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Well, yeah, I was going to say, so

you and your husband, you've been

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together for 14 years, 14 years.

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, , uh, my husband sat me down very early

in the relationship and he's like, Hey.

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So I'm really starting to like

you and I just, I don't want

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this to be a deal breaker,

but , he's like, I don't want kids.

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And I was like, well, good news.

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Maybe because I don't want them either.

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So, okay, Wendy, you like

food, you don't want kids.

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You a.

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Then we should leave that part out.

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Well, you know what?

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This is something that I have

found is really interesting.

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And I'm sure you've noticed this

as a woman who doesn't have kids

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that , that's a topic that comes up

a lot, , whether you like it or not.

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And I have found that by being vocal

about not wanting a kid lifestyle, It's

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allowed a lot of other people to be

like, I feel the same way, but I feel bad

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saying that because especially as women,

there's this expectation to procreate.

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And so you've got to strike a

balance because of course you

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don't want to be annoying about it.

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But , I do think it's important to

be honest about it and to not be.

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Bashful about enjoying your kid-free life?

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, yeah, no, it's just not for me.

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Like.

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Plain and simple.

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Yeah.

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Like having your one to five kids.

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That's you.

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That's what makes you happy?

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I'm completely content.

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This is the life that

I've always dreamed of.

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And I'm, you know, I'm happy with it.

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Me and my husband, my dog, like

I'm very, I'm an only child

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I'm very close with my parents.

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Like.

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No, I like, sorry.

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Yeah.

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I love not apologizing for it.

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Like north.

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You know, you be happy doing

you I'll be happy doing me.

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Yes.

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I'm not trying to rub it

in your face, but yeah.

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Oh, it's definitely you notice

though, when you get older and

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everyone does start having children.

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Like all these friendships

you have change.

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Oh yeah.

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Necessarily end, but friends that

I used to see and talk to all the

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time now, it's like, I see you

once every year and you live.

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20 minutes away.

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It's a natural evolution.

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And you're just like

different seasons of life.

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Yup.

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Okay, Wendy, , I I've mentioned earlier

that before I do, uh, some of these

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episodes I'll do a poll or like a

question ask on my Instagram and have

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people send in questions for people.

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So would you like to

answer some questions?

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Sure.

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We're going to start easy.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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What does a typical day look like for you?

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so . It depends on what

my events are for the day.

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And I, I normally only have maybe

one day a week that I have no events.

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Is that intentional, like you try

to keep a day clear or sometimes

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it just happens that way.

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No, I tried it.

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I mean, I wish I had two or three.

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It's getting crazy, but no,

I try to have at least one.

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, and lately I haven't had one.

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, I haven't had a night off.

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About four weeks.

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Oh my God.

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Not one.

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What's up Thanksgiving, Thanksgiving.

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Yeah.

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But yeah, no nights, no days off.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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Yeah, but normally.

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Normally, if I do an event at night,

like I'll a dinner, had a restaurant.

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I will edit most of the day.

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I'll do one or two videos.

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So I'm probably editing

for five hours or so.

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And then I answer emails.

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Any proposals I need to get together.

444

:

Then I get ready for dinner.

445

:

Go to dinner.

446

:

And get that going.

447

:

And yeah, that's kind of a typical day.

448

:

, some days I have lunch.

449

:

And dinner events.

450

:

, But yeah, that's kinda how my day

is all blurred together right now.

451

:

My husband's like, I

can't even keep track.

452

:

What do we have this week?

453

:

Is he your go-to date

for all of this stuff?

454

:

Do you do some of it alone?

455

:

Like what's your preference?

456

:

, my preference is him because he is.

457

:

You know, he knows how to help

me with my videos and he knows

458

:

all the angles I LA trained.

459

:

He's.

460

:

He's been trained very well

and he's such a big help.

461

:

Oh God.

462

:

Bless him.

463

:

But, , you know, , friends

will go with me sometimes.

464

:

I go by myself.

465

:

Occasionally.

466

:

I don't like going by myself.

467

:

Just one.

468

:

It's not fun to drink by yourself.

469

:

Yeah.

470

:

And eat by yourself.

471

:

It's not my favorite thing.

472

:

, But also , I do need help.

473

:

Like if I need a cheers, you know, I

need someone to do the chairs with.

474

:

If I, if you know, I like being

in the video sometimes like

475

:

doing a noodle pool or whatever.

476

:

So you need help with that.

477

:

So, yeah, I prefer to go with someone.

478

:

My mom occasionally goes with me.

479

:

She lives very close by.

480

:

She loves going.

481

:

Yeah.

482

:

But yeah.

483

:

So yeah, that's kinda how it goes.

484

:

. Some are busier than others.

485

:

If I have certain projects like, oh,

this past week has been a killer.

486

:

Like, I don't know why I agreed to so many

things that were due in the same week.

487

:

So, yeah, and I always I'm really

bad and I'm kinda like, uh, under

488

:

pressure, you know, I do better.

489

:

Yeah.

490

:

Yeah.

491

:

So I'll have like five projects.

492

:

I've had these projects for months.

493

:

And I don't, I don't start editing or even

recording some of them until like day of.

494

:

I mean, yeah.

495

:

Yeah, my husband loves it.

496

:

Yeah.

497

:

Go go, go.

498

:

He's no, he's like, what's wrong with you?

499

:

He's like, why do you do this every time?

500

:

I got, I don't know, maybe ADHD.

501

:

I tell them that all this.

502

:

Yeah.

503

:

It's just how my brain works.

504

:

I'm the same way.

505

:

Like it, I could have three years to

prepare for something, but it's going

506

:

to be 24 hours before somebody needs to

see it that I'm like, it's good to set.

507

:

I can't summon the intellect or

energy if I don't have that pressure.

508

:

Which I do think is a sign of ADHD.

509

:

Oh, I mean, it's got to be, I

mean, it's something I'll tell you.

510

:

Yeah, I'll be in the shower, like

thinking about my to-do list and

511

:

I'll literally like, get the shakes.

512

:

I'm like, oh, for the love

of God, I did it again.

513

:

That's a very relatable.

514

:

Okay.

515

:

So a typical day for Wendy

is editing, eating and having

516

:

anxiety about what's due.

517

:

Yep.

518

:

Perfect.

519

:

, okay.

520

:

Let's move on to our next question.

521

:

, oh, I like this one.

522

:

What is something that people would be

surprised to learn about what you do?

523

:

There's a lot.

524

:

Well, one that it takes, I mean, you see

the videos cause I mostly post videos and.

525

:

Oh, they look cute.

526

:

They look fun.

527

:

And yet.

528

:

You know, everyone's like, oh, I want

to do this, but it's a lot of work.

529

:

Like it really is like one, five

second video took me two hours

530

:

to do plus the restaurant visit.

531

:

Plus, you know, the stories into it.

532

:

You know, plus just getting

the restaurant visit set up.

533

:

That was 15 emails between the PR agency.

534

:

Like, uh, yeah.

535

:

And then a lot of them will

ask your insights from the

536

:

video and stuff afterwards.

537

:

It's something.

538

:

It's a whole process and it

just, so one restaurant visit.

539

:

That's six hours of my time.

540

:

Yeah.

541

:

So, and you know, if the food's mediocre

it's like, damn, was that worth it?

542

:

I don't think so.

543

:

That's a good point, especially like you

said, you don't charge local restaurants.

544

:

Cause you're trying to bring attention

to them and help with publicity.

545

:

But if they're not good and

are not getting paid and it's

546

:

just a comped, not good meal, I

could see you being like, yeah.

547

:

Yeah.

548

:

And that'll, that'll be the

thing there'll be like, okay.

549

:

I go, I'll go to three in a row.

550

:

And they were just like, yeah.

551

:

Whatever.

552

:

And then, but then also like

lately I've been to some really,

553

:

really impressive restaurants.

554

:

Which is, which is nice because

after you go to three, like so-so

555

:

ones in a row, it's like, all right,

Atlanta, get your act together.

556

:

What's going on here.

557

:

No, it doesn't.

558

:

We have some great places in Atlanta,

but it's just, you know, And N you know,

559

:

my husband and I have a whole list of

places that we just like to go on our own.

560

:

Right.

561

:

But you really, we.

562

:

We barely have time to go to our

favorite local places anymore

563

:

because I'm invited out every night.

564

:

And, , yeah, we just found,

we found a great new bar.

565

:

We love last week and we're like, damn,

like we gotta come back here more.

566

:

And he's like, we don't have time.

567

:

Like they have to go to that mid bar.

568

:

We got to go to this new bar.

569

:

But you know, it's just, it's checking

out new spots all the time and you

570

:

just never know what to expect.

571

:

Some turn out amazing.

572

:

Some are mediocre.

573

:

Some are just, Ooh.

574

:

I won't go back.

575

:

It's no secret that I am a food

snob and just a general snob.

576

:

I have an issue with Atlanta that I have

is there, there's no shortage of new

577

:

spots, but I think that it's how were we?

578

:

Cool.

579

:

And Instagramable and not is this

legit good food with solid service?

580

:

Because that to me is so much

more important than that.

581

:

Like an aesthetic.

582

:

That's just the icing on the top.

583

:

Yeah, I agree.

584

:

Yeah.

585

:

I say all the time, I'm like, I'd rather

go to Buford highway on like cracked.

586

:

No Liam.

587

:

And eat noodles.

588

:

Some grandma just made.

589

:

With zero Instagramability.

590

:

Yeah, that's good.

591

:

Over a grass wall and our neon signs.

592

:

I hear ya.

593

:

If you're listening and you have a

grass wall and a neon sign, it's over.

594

:

Sometimes I think that

baby, I'm a food snob.

595

:

But I mean, You know, I'm from Tennessee.

596

:

I was a little girl.

597

:

I grew up.

598

:

I just love to eat.

599

:

I love food.

600

:

I just love, I mean, I used

to enter eating competitions.

601

:

Like I can eat.

602

:

I can eat and I, you know, not as much

as I used to, but I just love food.

603

:

I love the art of food.

604

:

I think it's beautiful.

605

:

What you can do with food.

606

:

I agree.

607

:

You know, I just love watching chefs like.

608

:

Do their art, like, I just love it.

609

:

, but sometimes Atlanta, I mean, we do have

some really incredible restaurants, but.

610

:

I just feel like people

here sometimes just.

611

:

I don't know, they're

just not impressed by.

612

:

Like the really, really good

restaurants sometimes like

613

:

the mediocre ones do better.

614

:

Which doesn't make sense to me.

615

:

I just, I don't get it.

616

:

I, I don't know.

617

:

I don't know if it's just me or

I don't know what it is, but.

618

:

I like, how does this place do so well?

619

:

Is it location?

620

:

Like, is it, you know,

like my food was cold.

621

:

Like every time, every time it's called.

622

:

The fries are limp.

623

:

What's going on.

624

:

Yeah, there is a spot that I will

not name that is very popular.

625

:

And I went and I sat down.

626

:

I was having dinner with two girlfriends

and, , I was the first person there

627

:

and they seen me at this table.

628

:

We had a reservation, , The tablecloth.

629

:

You know, when you leave clothes in the

dryer and they're like wrinkly as fuck.

630

:

Yeah, it looks like that

happened like to the 10th degree.

631

:

Like it was the wrinkly as

tablecloth I've ever seen.

632

:

The silverware was all jacked up.

633

:

It literally looks like

Helen Keller's at this table.

634

:

Like.

635

:

I was like, is this correct?

636

:

Like, am I allowed to be sitting here?

637

:

Like, are you done?

638

:

Like, is this it?

639

:

And then I'm there.

640

:

The food was so boring and I left

and I'm just like, That wasn't cheap.

641

:

And I don't care about the price

if it's good, but I was just

642

:

like, how is this so popular?

643

:

And I think it's just good

marketing, good networking.

644

:

And , if you can create the vibe that

it's like, oh, people think this is cool.

645

:

, I think it's like, Some sort of amnesia

happens when the food is actually bad

646

:

and people are like, that was cool.

647

:

Right?

648

:

I think that was cool.

649

:

Yeah.

650

:

Yeah.

651

:

Yeah.

652

:

That was cool.

653

:

I'm gonna put on Instagram.

654

:

Yeah.

655

:

And that's what you're right though.

656

:

I think a lot of it is vibes.

657

:

Cause I mean, Atlanta's got a lot of.

658

:

We've got a lot of nice looking

Yeah, a hundred percent Instagramable

659

:

like gorgeous and some of them

just the food doesn't hit the mark.

660

:

Yeah.

661

:

Um, or the server, like, they're

just, they're desperate for servers.

662

:

Uh, yeah, or just any

hosts, like it just workers.

663

:

Um, and I just, yeah, I mean, you can't.

664

:

That's the hard thing, especially

like, after COVID everyone

665

:

else looking for workers.

666

:

And so it was really hard when you

had to be like, okay, well, you know,

667

:

can't be hard on them because the

service was bad because they have,

668

:

you know, they're hiring, right.

669

:

Like everyone's hiring, but

now I feel like it's coming

670

:

back, they're still struggling.

671

:

But yeah, it's just, uh, I don't know.

672

:

That's kinda how I judge it.

673

:

When I go to places I'm

like, how was the service?

674

:

How are the vibes like, oh, I'm

a big, big critic on the drinks.

675

:

Like sweat.

676

:

A place recently that batches, their

cocktails on a Tuesday when they're dead.

677

:

And I about lost my.

678

:

Not about lost it.

679

:

I'm like you're batching my margarita.

680

:

No.

681

:

At the very least don't let me know.

682

:

That's what's happening.

683

:

I was like, this is just

really, this is really sweet.

684

:

I can't drink it.

685

:

And she's like, oh, well, there's

nothing we can do about that.

686

:

I was like, Did the bar tender go home.

687

:

Yeah.

688

:

And she's like, well, you

have to be sending Steve.

689

:

They were dead and she's like, well,

you have to be sitting at the bar.

690

:

When the bartender to

remake your drink properly.

691

:

I'm sorry.

692

:

I about lost it.

693

:

Yeah.

694

:

I was just like, what?

695

:

It's like a personal endeavor

or somebody who had asked you to

696

:

come to their business personal.

697

:

Okay, good.

698

:

Yeah.

699

:

I yeah.

700

:

They actually, they tried to make it

better and the manager came over to me and

701

:

he's like, oh, like, we made it for you.

702

:

Like, how is this?

703

:

And it was still sweet to sell.

704

:

But, you know, I appreciate it.

705

:

Sour mix.

706

:

Yes, it was, I appreciated the

effort, like, you know, The place was

707

:

pretty cool, but, uh, yeah, I don't

know about the drinks next time.

708

:

I'll just get like a vodka soda, but yeah.

709

:

But sad.

710

:

Yeah.

711

:

But yeah.

712

:

You know, it's like when I get invited

these places you got to, you know,

713

:

sometimes the service is a really big

thing for me since I was in the service.

714

:

Yeah.

715

:

Part of it for so many years.

716

:

So, and you know, my husband

owned a restaurant, so it's like,

717

:

that's really important to me.

718

:

Absolutely.

719

:

And that's, that's part of the experience.

720

:

That's like part of why you go out, that's

part of what makes it just enjoyable.

721

:

Yes.

722

:

You know, otherwise you can

make whatever you want at home.

723

:

That's correct.

724

:

And.

725

:

And sometimes better.

726

:

Oh, yeah.

727

:

That you can make it

exactly how you want it.

728

:

And it's just like, all right.

729

:

Like, I want this to be good.

730

:

Like put a smile on your face,

like try, like we're paying

731

:

or, you know, I'm obviously I'm

paying in services like that.

732

:

I'm.

733

:

I'm doing videos for you.

734

:

I'm promoting for you guys, , you

know, at least try, but.

735

:

Yeah, but sometimes you don't get that.

736

:

And so, yeah, it's just it, I always

look at like, what's the food?

737

:

Good.

738

:

Was the service go like, and if

it's not, you just got to all right.

739

:

Well, I'll post.

740

:

I just won't mention this.

741

:

Like, And I've always mentioned

if the service is good.

742

:

Good.

743

:

I want to make a note of that.

744

:

And I want that to be, you know, We

went to a few places lately and the

745

:

service has just been phenomenal.

746

:

So I'm like, all right, Atlanta,

you're stepping up your game.

747

:

I love it.

748

:

That's good.

749

:

Yeah.

750

:

I've been saying I'm like the good

servers in Atlanta work at like

751

:

bones and they've been there for 25

years and they're like, Oh, yeah.

752

:

Yeah.

753

:

I've got a good thing going here.

754

:

Yeah.

755

:

Um, and there's just kind of this.

756

:

And I'm generalizing, of course,

but this vibe of I'm serving

757

:

here until my next real thing.

758

:

And there's not, I maybe it's a pride

thing because to me, no matter what job

759

:

I'm in, and maybe this is because I'm also

in an extension of the service industry.

760

:

Like no matter what my job is, I'm

showing up and I'm giving 110%.

761

:

And I guess not everyone feels

that way, but yeah, it can make

762

:

or break an otherwise good meatal.

763

:

Oh, yeah, a hundred percent.

764

:

That's always one of my biggest

pet peeves when I go to a place.

765

:

That's the number one thing

I look for, to be honest.

766

:

Yeah.

767

:

I'm completely with you.

768

:

I you'll get a kick out of this.

769

:

I went out for drinks with a

friend a couple of weeks ago,

770

:

and I ordered an Americano.

771

:

That's my go-to cocktail

Campari for Muth soda.

772

:

Very simple.

773

:

Classic cocktail.

774

:

Yeah.

775

:

And the guy was like, what?

776

:

And I was like, uh, An Americano,

like, you know, and I explained

777

:

to him the ingredients and he

was like, oh, we can't make that.

778

:

And I was like, okay.

779

:

And I've heard this before.

780

:

And so I know a little hack.

781

:

And so I said, okay, can

you make an a groany.

782

:

And he's like, oh yeah, for sure.

783

:

And I was like, perfect.

784

:

So here's the deal?

785

:

And Americano is a fucking Negroni

with no gin add soda on the rocks.

786

:

And he was like, I don't

know if we can do that.

787

:

And I was like, oh my God,

please just ask your bartender.

788

:

If not I'll order, you know, something.

789

:

I guess I.

790

:

Or whatever, but like, I just want my

drink goddamn, like this shouldn't be.

791

:

It was the craziest conversation though.

792

:

Cause like his brain was still

not connecting the fact that the

793

:

ingredients are under this roof.

794

:

Like just confirmed that.

795

:

This, isn't a wild request.

796

:

Um, uh, so I don't know.

797

:

Alright, let's see what our next question.

798

:

Yes.

799

:

Okay.

800

:

What happens if you

don't like a restaurant?

801

:

So if I go and everything is a fail, like

services, bad foods, bad drinks, bad.

802

:

I've had this happen.

803

:

Four or five times in the

entire time I've been doing it.

804

:

Oh, wow.

805

:

I refuse to post.

806

:

And I sent a very polite,

but very detailed.

807

:

Reason why.

808

:

You know, like, I'm sorry.

809

:

Like if I post about this place,

people will go and I will get

810

:

blamed because I recommended it.

811

:

Yeah.

812

:

And that's the thing, because I

have recommended places in the

813

:

beginning when I first started

doing it and I, I shouldn't have.

814

:

You know, like I did have

a bad experience and.

815

:

People come back either.

816

:

They unfollow you they're.

817

:

You're like, I can't trust you.

818

:

Yeah.

819

:

They're like, We don't.

820

:

You don't know what you're talking about.

821

:

Or they'll comment.

822

:

I mean, God, I, one of my biggest

posts ever last year of a taco place.

823

:

Oh my God.

824

:

Some of the comments I got

rude, rude comments about these

825

:

people don't even know me.

826

:

And they're like this, this

little Southern hick girl doesn't

827

:

know anything about tacos.

828

:

The only place you can get

tacos is Buford highway.

829

:

And I was just like, I'm

not saying this is the.

830

:

Best tacos.

831

:

The food of my people either.

832

:

Yeah.

833

:

I'm just, I'm just naming a place that

you can get some pretty good tacos.

834

:

Whoa.

835

:

In my opinion.

836

:

I mean, I am not a taco expert.

837

:

I don't eat tacos daily.

838

:

But I do appreciate a good taco.

839

:

Yeah.

840

:

Don't we.

841

:

This is my page, my opinion, but,

oh, I got some really mean comments.

842

:

So people like that have hundreds

of thousands of followers or

843

:

Millie, like celebrities got out.

844

:

I don't know how they do it.

845

:

Yeah.

846

:

Oh God, I couldn't do it.

847

:

Like if you get mean comments

like that all the time.

848

:

Be able to handle it.

849

:

Luckily I don't get that

many, but that's good.

850

:

Wow.

851

:

I was just like, man,

these people are brutal.

852

:

Oh, I did a post about

downtown Atlanta this year.

853

:

Oh God.

854

:

I think I oh.

855

:

I got some really main comments on that.

856

:

Do you reply to the mean comments?

857

:

Do you delete them?

858

:

Do you leave them up?

859

:

Like how do you handle that?

860

:

It depends.

861

:

There was one.

862

:

There was one really main one about

the downtown one calling me like

863

:

a dumb bitch or something that

doesn't know anything about the

864

:

city saying I didn't even live here.

865

:

What.

866

:

I was like, son,

867

:

I've been on this earth longer than you.

868

:

I've lived here longer than you.

869

:

And I was like, I live

five minutes from downtown.

870

:

Yeah.

871

:

And I was like, I'm literally saying,

yeah, I was like, and I actually

872

:

mentioned no one reads the captions

of videos and they just don't.

873

:

And I S I actually say in

the caption that parking.

874

:

Because it was about like

cheap things to do in the city.

875

:

I actually mentioned that

parking was not included in this.

876

:

Okay.

877

:

This is just the things that

I, you know, once you're there.

878

:

Yeah.

879

:

And I mean, and they were logo.

880

:

Parking's 50 bucks like

this dumb marriage.

881

:

I was like, oh my God.

882

:

I was like, you guys

are so mean, but yeah.

883

:

Oh no.

884

:

I deleted his main comment and I

didn't even see it for like two weeks.

885

:

It was on there.

886

:

I got like a hundred likes.

887

:

I was like, oh my God.

888

:

Yeah.

889

:

So that was a main one,

but I did delete that.

890

:

But.

891

:

Did you cry?

892

:

Um, I'm man.

893

:

I got teary-eyed.

894

:

I can dish it, but I can not take it.

895

:

It was really, yeah, that was a

main one, but I just kind of, but

896

:

no, for most of them, most of them

made comments about the parking.

897

:

Okay.

898

:

And I did comment because I

actually parked downtown at the

899

:

most expensive place down there

at one of the big tourist sites.

900

:

And I was there for seven

hours and I only paid 20 bucks.

901

:

I was going to say 50 bucks.

902

:

And there's way cheaper parking

around there and there street parking.

903

:

If you.

904

:

Skill.

905

:

If you're a skilled driver.

906

:

Right.

907

:

But I'm like, I mean,

yeah, people are people.

908

:

Uh, they can be brutal, but yeah.

909

:

So if it's, if it's all bad, I don't post,

but my, thing is I'm not a food critic.

910

:

Like I'm not, you know, I don't

have my pages to bash places.

911

:

I do this to help promote places

to post about places I love to

912

:

give you recommendations about.

913

:

Places I've been invited to that.

914

:

I love like places, you know, my favorite

spots in the city that I go to over

915

:

and over just because I love them.

916

:

Yeah.

917

:

Not invited in.

918

:

And that's why I do it.

919

:

I mean, that's why I started this page.

920

:

, so if I go to a place that's having

an off night or it's a new spot

921

:

and the service was great, like

absolutely blown away by the service.

922

:

Love the look of it, the, feel, the

music, the light everything's good,

923

:

the whole vibe, but, , let's say,

, you know, two appetizers were good.

924

:

Pizza was good.

925

:

Pasta.

926

:

No.

927

:

Like barely edible dessert.

928

:

Yeah.

929

:

So-so.

930

:

Drinks we're on point.

931

:

I'll do my post, but I

will leave out the pasta.

932

:

I will say these were my

favorite things of the night.

933

:

Okay.

934

:

You know, service was good.

935

:

Vibes were good.

936

:

Pizza was good.

937

:

Burrata was good.

938

:

Leave out the pasta completely.

939

:

Yeah.

940

:

That way I have some, I mean,

I had someone today write

941

:

something on an old post.

942

:

They were like, yeah, this

place is subpar at best.

943

:

I was like, listen, douche.

944

:

Let me go to your page

and write something now.

945

:

I can share that with your

84 followers can be alone.

946

:

People, you know, they just,

you know, they like writing

947

:

their opinions on things.

948

:

I mean, I get it, but.

949

:

You know, I don't don't

like bash my thing.

950

:

Like, I'm trying to be honest with you

guys and tell you, like, all right.

951

:

I thought their pizza

was all right, but yeah.

952

:

I think there's ways you can say things

that aren't super mean and rude, you know?

953

:

Why would you even write that?

954

:

Like, I will comment.

955

:

Sometimes if something like

I'm like, oh yeah, I love that.

956

:

I've been there.

957

:

I love that.

958

:

But like if I've been to a

place and hated it, and I see

959

:

someone post a good video, I.

960

:

I didn't have no desire to comment on it.

961

:

Of course.

962

:

I may think in my head, those idiots.

963

:

Or like, I totally disagree.

964

:

Yeah, I just.

965

:

It doesn't even enter my head to comment.

966

:

Correct.

967

:

I mean, unless that restaurant,

like someone that worked there,

968

:

went out and slashed my tire.

969

:

Sure.

970

:

No, those people are terrible.

971

:

Are, you know, You know, they actually

did something personally to me.

972

:

Yes.

973

:

I just don't think to go to people's

page and write like that place sucks.

974

:

And doing it publicly is rude.

975

:

Like, yeah, Wendy and I overlapped

at a restaurant semi-recently

976

:

and privately, I messaged her.

977

:

It was like, I hope your

feed was better than mine.

978

:

And we had a little chat about

it, but it's like, there's no need

979

:

for public discourse over that.

980

:

You're talking about people's

businesses and their livelihoods and.

981

:

And opinions.

982

:

And like you said, I'm

not a literal food critic.

983

:

I'm a human, just sharing my opinion

about stuff like Keith Lee always

984

:

says, this is just my opinion.

985

:

You don't have to agree.

986

:

You can love this thing that

I hate and I don't care.

987

:

Yeah.

988

:

Yeah.

989

:

I don't know how he does it.

990

:

Getting all these threats and

the restaurants are getting.

991

:

I'm like my God, I should get

Keith Lee on this podcast.

992

:

You shouldn't imagine.

993

:

Yes, I can.

994

:

This room would implode.

995

:

My God.

996

:

Seriously, I would implode.

997

:

Wild.

998

:

That'd be awesome.

999

:

I agree.

:

00:35:42,047 --> 00:35:44,207

All right, Keith, if you're

listening, you're always

:

00:35:44,207 --> 00:35:45,407

welcome to the taco bell table.

:

00:35:46,847 --> 00:35:47,777

Okay, next question.

:

00:35:47,777 --> 00:35:52,337

What is the worst or craziest

experience you've had working

:

00:35:52,337 --> 00:35:54,437

with businesses and or brands.

:

00:35:54,437 --> 00:35:55,157

Oh, God.

:

00:35:56,567 --> 00:35:56,957

Mm.

:

00:35:57,407 --> 00:35:59,417

There's been, there's been a lot.

:

00:35:59,747 --> 00:36:02,057

Yeah, there's been, yeah,

there's been quite a few.

:

00:36:02,057 --> 00:36:03,377

I mean, most of the time.

:

00:36:03,377 --> 00:36:08,267

It's like deliverables that they're asking

me, you know, for trying to come to.

:

00:36:09,317 --> 00:36:11,177

An agreement for a project.

:

00:36:11,987 --> 00:36:14,567

, so there was one that I

did a big one this year.

:

00:36:14,597 --> 00:36:16,307

One of the biggest ones I've taken on.

:

00:36:16,757 --> 00:36:18,037

And, it just.

:

00:36:18,637 --> 00:36:21,697

I mean, it really took

10 years off my life.

:

00:36:21,757 --> 00:36:21,877

Oh God.

:

00:36:22,207 --> 00:36:24,277

It was a span over several months.

:

00:36:24,517 --> 00:36:27,081

And I mean, I, love this brand.

:

00:36:27,081 --> 00:36:28,521

I really, really do.

:

00:36:28,854 --> 00:36:30,474

I had to like that this year, but anyways.

:

00:36:30,504 --> 00:36:30,684

Yeah.

:

00:36:30,684 --> 00:36:30,954

So.

:

00:36:30,954 --> 00:36:32,784

I'm talking 20 years down in life.

:

00:36:32,934 --> 00:36:33,174

But.

:

00:36:34,404 --> 00:36:37,864

I don't know, you do these months

long projects, I mean, first of all,

:

00:36:37,864 --> 00:36:40,234

there's like a 50 page contract.

:

00:36:40,264 --> 00:36:40,714

You sign.

:

00:36:40,804 --> 00:36:41,344

Okay.

:

00:36:41,584 --> 00:36:44,224

, but then when you get down

to like actually doing.

:

00:36:44,224 --> 00:36:46,324

The project like month by month.

:

00:36:46,324 --> 00:36:49,984

You have to turn everything in

for editing before it's posted.

:

00:36:50,014 --> 00:36:52,294

And it goes through a slew of people.

:

00:36:52,414 --> 00:36:55,684

So you make your version of a final

video and then you send it to this

:

00:36:55,684 --> 00:36:57,574

brand and then they continue editing.

:

00:36:57,784 --> 00:37:01,324

Well, no, they, they sit down at

a table like, cause this was a big

:

00:37:01,354 --> 00:37:03,304

brand and they sit down at a table.

:

00:37:03,694 --> 00:37:06,874

With a group of people and

they go over that, oh my God.

:

00:37:06,994 --> 00:37:10,264

And it would be like, it

would be due on like Friday.

:

00:37:11,314 --> 00:37:14,704

And I was supposed to post it,

get feedback from them, make

:

00:37:14,704 --> 00:37:16,984

any edits, post it by Tuesday.

:

00:37:17,374 --> 00:37:19,504

I wouldn't hear back from

them for like two weeks.

:

00:37:19,594 --> 00:37:20,134

Oh, what?

:

00:37:20,224 --> 00:37:20,584

Yeah.

:

00:37:20,884 --> 00:37:24,964

And then they'd come back

and they would have 57 edits.

:

00:37:25,444 --> 00:37:27,604

And this is like a 32nd video.

:

00:37:27,634 --> 00:37:28,474

How is that possible?

:

00:37:28,474 --> 00:37:31,204

I basically have to go

refilm the whole thing again.

:

00:37:31,234 --> 00:37:32,734

Do the voiceover again.

:

00:37:32,884 --> 00:37:34,774

Do the text overlay again?

:

00:37:34,804 --> 00:37:36,304

I mean, just do everything again.

:

00:37:37,144 --> 00:37:39,964

And this, this went on

for like eight months.

:

00:37:40,204 --> 00:37:40,924

Oh my God.

:

00:37:40,954 --> 00:37:41,644

Every month.

:

00:37:41,724 --> 00:37:42,504

Is it out yet?

:

00:37:42,564 --> 00:37:44,394

Like as the budget it's it's finished.

:

00:37:44,454 --> 00:37:44,604

Oh.

:

00:37:44,604 --> 00:37:46,404

And so actually this project.

:

00:37:46,704 --> 00:37:49,014

They contacted me last October.

:

00:37:49,164 --> 00:37:50,004

I was in Vermont.

:

00:37:50,034 --> 00:37:52,374

I remember on a trip and

I was like, wow, holy cow.

:

00:37:52,374 --> 00:37:54,924

This is a huge brand

like, oh, this is awesome.

:

00:37:55,314 --> 00:37:56,904

And I really wanted the project.

:

00:37:56,904 --> 00:37:58,284

So I like underquoted them.

:

00:37:58,284 --> 00:37:59,184

What I normally would.

:

00:37:59,694 --> 00:38:00,804

I should have trimmed ever do that shit.

:

00:38:01,044 --> 00:38:01,524

Tripled it.

:

00:38:02,424 --> 00:38:04,884

But so this project was

supposed to be four months.

:

00:38:05,004 --> 00:38:05,724

Oh my God.

:

00:38:05,754 --> 00:38:06,024

Yeah.

:

00:38:06,054 --> 00:38:09,804

So it was supposed to be November,

December, January, February.

:

00:38:10,044 --> 00:38:10,914

Well, there was a.

:

00:38:11,454 --> 00:38:13,044

I don't know what happened in there.

:

00:38:13,314 --> 00:38:18,594

Internally, but, um, They changed how

they wanted the, the re the last two

:

00:38:18,594 --> 00:38:20,754

videos to be like the theme of it.

:

00:38:21,294 --> 00:38:22,194

And so.

:

00:38:22,794 --> 00:38:26,334

The project didn't end up getting

finished until August this year.

:

00:38:26,964 --> 00:38:27,984

Oh, my God.

:

00:38:28,134 --> 00:38:29,274

Yeah, that's wild.

:

00:38:29,514 --> 00:38:30,534

Oh, yeah.

:

00:38:31,224 --> 00:38:32,904

It's just stuff like that, that happens.

:

00:38:32,904 --> 00:38:35,244

And it's just, and I had a

couple of those this year and

:

00:38:35,244 --> 00:38:36,474

they were both really big ones.

:

00:38:36,474 --> 00:38:37,824

Like they both.

:

00:38:37,824 --> 00:38:38,484

We're very.

:

00:38:38,484 --> 00:38:42,224

Good money wise for me

and, very good on my resume.

:

00:38:42,734 --> 00:38:46,424

You know, but, oh God, they were a

lot, like I should've charged more.

:

00:38:46,964 --> 00:38:48,074

And I'm going to think about that.

:

00:38:48,434 --> 00:38:51,014

Next year, it just, I

mean, I put so many hours.

:

00:38:51,044 --> 00:38:52,424

Yeah, it's got to be worth your time.

:

00:38:52,694 --> 00:38:55,784

I mean the one, the one I was just

talking about like, oh, I don't

:

00:38:55,784 --> 00:38:58,634

know how many hundreds of hours I

put into that editing and stuff.

:

00:38:58,664 --> 00:39:00,194

I mean just, oh God.

:

00:39:00,824 --> 00:39:01,814

Work with them again?

:

00:39:01,844 --> 00:39:02,114

No.

:

00:39:02,174 --> 00:39:02,474

Okay.

:

00:39:02,474 --> 00:39:05,564

So there's no amount of publicity

that's worth the just abuse.

:

00:39:05,954 --> 00:39:07,514

Uh, no, I just, I couldn't do it again.

:

00:39:07,514 --> 00:39:08,174

It was too much.

:

00:39:08,624 --> 00:39:11,474

And I didn't charge enough, but

honestly, even if I charged them like

:

00:39:11,924 --> 00:39:13,814

double, like, no, it's not enough.

:

00:39:13,844 --> 00:39:14,024

Like.

:

00:39:14,234 --> 00:39:15,614

No, not 10 years of life now.

:

00:39:15,644 --> 00:39:15,824

Yeah.

:

00:39:16,424 --> 00:39:17,774

I've got standards and boundaries.

:

00:39:18,914 --> 00:39:19,604

That's fair.

:

00:39:19,964 --> 00:39:20,174

Yeah.

:

00:39:20,504 --> 00:39:21,374

It was a learning per se.

:

00:39:21,374 --> 00:39:21,584

Yeah.

:

00:39:21,614 --> 00:39:23,144

It was a whole learning process.

:

00:39:23,384 --> 00:39:23,744

Yeah.

:

00:39:23,804 --> 00:39:24,164

Yeah.

:

00:39:24,254 --> 00:39:24,884

But that's good.

:

00:39:24,944 --> 00:39:25,694

And again, yeah.

:

00:39:27,044 --> 00:39:28,544

, Okay, next question.

:

00:39:28,604 --> 00:39:28,904

Okay.

:

00:39:29,204 --> 00:39:30,104

Oh, there was a lot.

:

00:39:30,134 --> 00:39:34,514

Um, people really like, I, again, I, I

say that I'm not good at social media and

:

00:39:34,514 --> 00:39:37,844

our numbers are so small, but the people

that do follow us are really engaged.

:

00:39:37,844 --> 00:39:40,004

So when I post these questions,

like people are all about

:

00:39:40,004 --> 00:39:42,224

it, so that I find enjoyable.

:

00:39:42,484 --> 00:39:43,954

, you say you don't have a

lot of followers though.

:

00:39:44,044 --> 00:39:45,094

I mean, this is the same thing.

:

00:39:45,094 --> 00:39:47,134

What you've heard like your

entire life about friends.

:

00:39:47,314 --> 00:39:49,864

Like it really is like

quality over quantity.

:

00:39:49,924 --> 00:39:51,064

Yeah, I agree with that.

:

00:39:51,094 --> 00:39:54,154

Like a hundred percent, I

want more engaged followers.

:

00:39:54,184 --> 00:39:54,604

Yeah.

:

00:39:54,694 --> 00:39:56,674

Then number wise, yes.

:

00:39:57,244 --> 00:40:00,334

Yeah, I thought, I thought for a longest

time, I was like, oh, I want to hit this

:

00:40:00,334 --> 00:40:04,774

many followers, but I just, I love it

when people are engaged and like, your

:

00:40:04,774 --> 00:40:08,944

story is like, they, they comment and

they can answer if you do polls and stuff.

:

00:40:08,974 --> 00:40:09,664

I love that.

:

00:40:09,664 --> 00:40:10,924

So that's really important.

:

00:40:11,074 --> 00:40:11,764

I totally agree.

:

00:40:11,764 --> 00:40:14,554

And we'll have brands reach out to

us and I'll go to their Instagram

:

00:40:14,554 --> 00:40:16,054

and I'm like, Ooh, 85,000 followers.

:

00:40:16,054 --> 00:40:16,414

Like, fuck.

:

00:40:16,414 --> 00:40:16,624

Yeah.

:

00:40:16,934 --> 00:40:20,144

And then I go look at their posts

and it's like one comment, 12 likes.

:

00:40:20,324 --> 00:40:22,874

One comment and I'm like, are these

bots, did you pay for these followers?

:

00:40:22,964 --> 00:40:24,074

Like, it's not just no.

:

00:40:24,974 --> 00:40:26,114

, so next question.

:

00:40:26,114 --> 00:40:26,564

Okay.

:

00:40:26,684 --> 00:40:29,324

Do you ever turn down

working with anybody?

:

00:40:29,624 --> 00:40:30,404

Oh, yes.

:

00:40:31,184 --> 00:40:34,274

I think we also, the time

it depends on deliverables.

:

00:40:34,274 --> 00:40:35,474

It depends on.

:

00:40:36,104 --> 00:40:37,244

A lot of times.

:

00:40:37,874 --> 00:40:38,714

How much they'll pay.

:

00:40:38,714 --> 00:40:39,524

If it's a big brand.

:

00:40:39,824 --> 00:40:43,814

Or if it's a food place, like I just,

I don't do much outside the perimeter.

:

00:40:44,294 --> 00:40:46,034

I know there's some

great restaurants there.

:

00:40:46,394 --> 00:40:48,074

I don't have the time and I'm not.

:

00:40:48,254 --> 00:40:49,994

I have, I get road rage.

:

00:40:50,564 --> 00:40:52,184

So like driving.

:

00:40:52,514 --> 00:40:53,894

To the burbs.

:

00:40:53,924 --> 00:40:55,484

I mean, it's just not for me.

:

00:40:55,994 --> 00:40:57,614

I mean, I did it yesterday and.

:

00:40:57,914 --> 00:40:58,454

It was okay.

:

00:40:58,454 --> 00:40:58,934

Yesterday.

:

00:40:58,964 --> 00:41:02,204

I did it at three o'clock and then

I had another stop on the way back,

:

00:41:02,234 --> 00:41:05,564

But no, for the most part, I just,

I don't like being in the car.

:

00:41:05,594 --> 00:41:07,184

I don't like Atlanta drivers.

:

00:41:07,184 --> 00:41:08,414

Like I don't.

:

00:41:09,644 --> 00:41:11,654

That's a whole another

thing, but yeah, no, no, no.

:

00:41:11,774 --> 00:41:12,974

So I say no all the time.

:

00:41:13,484 --> 00:41:18,014

It depends on what it is, how much, you

know, It really depends a lot of stuff.

:

00:41:18,074 --> 00:41:18,404

Yeah.

:

00:41:18,494 --> 00:41:19,334

That makes perfect sense.

:

00:41:20,444 --> 00:41:22,124

Okay, last question.

:

00:41:22,574 --> 00:41:25,634

What are your tips on growing

a social media account?

:

00:41:26,204 --> 00:41:31,244

Oh, um, I'll say that's not my question,

but that's also, I'm dying for the answer.

:

00:41:31,424 --> 00:41:31,724

Yeah.

:

00:41:31,724 --> 00:41:35,144

So one, I mean, It's true consistency.

:

00:41:35,474 --> 00:41:36,644

It really, really is.

:

00:41:36,644 --> 00:41:41,874

And then also like nowadays, The reels

like, and you can't., you, I mean,

:

00:41:42,174 --> 00:41:46,254

how they have these templates you can

use and it's, so it's not as hard.

:

00:41:46,254 --> 00:41:49,014

And I, you know, some of

these influencers, they just

:

00:41:49,014 --> 00:41:50,394

use templates every time.

:

00:41:50,634 --> 00:41:51,864

And if you use one.

:

00:41:52,314 --> 00:41:54,384

That's trending with a trending audio.

:

00:41:54,864 --> 00:41:55,704

And your contents.

:

00:41:55,704 --> 00:41:55,974

Good.

:

00:41:55,974 --> 00:41:58,584

I mean, that can be the short

videos or what does best now?

:

00:41:58,584 --> 00:41:59,094

Like, okay.

:

00:41:59,154 --> 00:42:00,564

Under 10 seconds or less.

:

00:42:00,894 --> 00:42:03,354

And if you just do something,

especially like beauty wise,

:

00:42:03,684 --> 00:42:05,844

like, oh my God, people tick talk.

:

00:42:05,874 --> 00:42:06,354

Oh my God.

:

00:42:06,414 --> 00:42:06,924

I love it.

:

00:42:06,954 --> 00:42:08,244

I just, they love that.

:

00:42:09,024 --> 00:42:12,264

Just make it something and you have to

catch the eye within the first frame.

:

00:42:12,684 --> 00:42:16,734

Like it's got to say, or be something

like very appealing to catch the eye.

:

00:42:17,094 --> 00:42:19,284

And yeah, I would just

say like consistency.

:

00:42:19,284 --> 00:42:21,204

Like I used to post seven days a week.

:

00:42:21,864 --> 00:42:25,944

Now I post I don't post on the

weekends, unless I'm way, way behind.

:

00:42:26,334 --> 00:42:27,234

I want to take a break.

:

00:42:27,264 --> 00:42:27,744

Yeah.

:

00:42:27,984 --> 00:42:31,434

And I still do my visits on the

weekends because that's, when is best.

:

00:42:31,884 --> 00:42:35,094

Most of the time for friends and my

husband to go places when they sure.

:

00:42:35,094 --> 00:42:38,574

So I still do visits, but oh God, I

just had to take one or two days off.

:

00:42:38,814 --> 00:42:39,594

It just needed a day.

:

00:42:41,034 --> 00:42:41,514

That's fair.

:

00:42:41,574 --> 00:42:41,934

Yeah.

:

00:42:41,994 --> 00:42:43,824

Just like, oh God, I don't

want to have to post.

:

00:42:43,824 --> 00:42:47,874

And oh, a lot of people use like,

, the apps that'll auto post for ya.

:

00:42:47,904 --> 00:42:49,104

I got to like schedulers and stuff.

:

00:42:49,104 --> 00:42:49,644

I don't do that.

:

00:42:49,734 --> 00:42:51,864

Yeah, I do it live.

:

00:42:52,314 --> 00:42:54,474

I've I did the schedulers

when I first started.

:

00:42:54,534 --> 00:42:55,074

I don't like it.

:

00:42:55,344 --> 00:42:56,994

I had just another thing to do, right?

:

00:42:56,994 --> 00:42:57,294

Yeah.

:

00:42:57,384 --> 00:42:58,014

It's yeah.

:

00:42:58,074 --> 00:42:59,664

We've played with some of that stuff too.

:

00:42:59,664 --> 00:43:00,504

And I'm like, I'm overwhelmed.

:

00:43:00,504 --> 00:43:01,764

I don't want to learn a whole new app.

:

00:43:01,794 --> 00:43:02,964

I had to just like, yeah.

:

00:43:02,964 --> 00:43:04,494

I had issues with it when I did it.

:

00:43:04,524 --> 00:43:05,904

And , I mean, I'm sure

it's gotten better, but.

:

00:43:06,564 --> 00:43:08,454

It's just, yeah, it's not

for me if I don't have time

:

00:43:08,454 --> 00:43:09,534

to post and I'm not posting.

:

00:43:09,594 --> 00:43:10,014

Yeah.

:

00:43:10,074 --> 00:43:10,554

That's fair.

:

00:43:10,584 --> 00:43:11,244

That's authentic.

:

00:43:11,274 --> 00:43:11,544

Yeah.

:

00:43:11,574 --> 00:43:14,004

But yeah, I would just say like

consistency and your, I mean,

:

00:43:14,064 --> 00:43:15,384

your shit just needs to be good.

:

00:43:18,084 --> 00:43:18,534

It's got it.

:

00:43:18,564 --> 00:43:19,344

It's got to be here.

:

00:43:19,524 --> 00:43:20,904

You heard it here first, everybody.

:

00:43:21,684 --> 00:43:24,594

Honestly, like you've got to have

something to like catch the eye and

:

00:43:24,594 --> 00:43:26,064

like, sometimes I'll post a video.

:

00:43:26,064 --> 00:43:28,554

Like, I mean, honestly,

like I get burnt out.

:

00:43:28,584 --> 00:43:30,384

I mean, burnout is a real thing.

:

00:43:30,474 --> 00:43:32,004

I get it like once a month.

:

00:43:32,154 --> 00:43:36,264

Yeah, I mean, and it hits bad and

I'm just like, I am done with it.

:

00:43:36,264 --> 00:43:36,324

I'm.

:

00:43:36,324 --> 00:43:37,614

I'm done with the visits.

:

00:43:37,614 --> 00:43:38,664

Like I need a break.

:

00:43:39,084 --> 00:43:42,594

And I'll post a video that's,

you know, not up to my standards.

:

00:43:42,714 --> 00:43:45,894

Owl and I'll feel bad about

it, but what you mean?

:

00:43:45,984 --> 00:43:49,524

Hey, So it happens like don't,

hopefully you don't hit me up that

:

00:43:49,554 --> 00:43:50,724

time of the month when I'm over it.

:

00:43:50,904 --> 00:43:51,144

But.

:

00:43:52,644 --> 00:43:56,474

Not every month, but you know, it

heads and like, , the video, it

:

00:43:56,474 --> 00:43:58,034

won't do as well, but I mean, yeah.

:

00:43:58,114 --> 00:43:59,734

My videos normally take two hours.

:

00:43:59,854 --> 00:44:01,564

I probably did that video in 15 minutes.

:

00:44:01,594 --> 00:44:01,954

Okay.

:

00:44:01,984 --> 00:44:02,854

And that's what happens.

:

00:44:03,364 --> 00:44:04,654

It's not going to do as well.

:

00:44:04,924 --> 00:44:05,944

And that, and that's okay.

:

00:44:05,944 --> 00:44:07,384

It shows, and that's the thing.

:

00:44:07,384 --> 00:44:10,054

That's why you have to put, like, you

don't have to put two hours into it.

:

00:44:10,144 --> 00:44:10,354

Yeah.

:

00:44:10,414 --> 00:44:12,394

, but, and there's way

easier ways to do this.

:

00:44:12,394 --> 00:44:15,694

There's apps to make reels and

the templates on Instagram.

:

00:44:15,724 --> 00:44:18,064

They really, they help with time-saving.

:

00:44:18,424 --> 00:44:20,184

But, , I mean, it's just, you got to.

:

00:44:21,234 --> 00:44:23,874

Just stay with it and

just put in some effort.

:

00:44:23,904 --> 00:44:26,834

And also , once you do this

regularly and really stay

:

00:44:26,834 --> 00:44:28,334

consistent with it, it gets easier.

:

00:44:28,334 --> 00:44:28,874

I swear.

:

00:44:29,054 --> 00:44:30,254

I actually just met with a.

:

00:44:30,397 --> 00:44:32,857

brand owner of a tequila

company, like a month ago.

:

00:44:32,857 --> 00:44:38,377

And he, yeah, he was looking for

all the tricks to gain a following.

:

00:44:38,557 --> 00:44:39,697

Like with his brand.

:

00:44:39,727 --> 00:44:42,507

And I'm like, I mean, there's no easy.

:

00:44:42,927 --> 00:44:45,417

You know, I can't just write out

a formula for you and your, your

:

00:44:45,447 --> 00:44:46,857

numbers are going to skyrocket.

:

00:44:46,887 --> 00:44:47,247

Yeah.

:

00:44:47,457 --> 00:44:48,687

I was like everybody would, yeah.

:

00:44:48,687 --> 00:44:51,257

It's taken me years, , to

gain what I have.

:

00:44:51,257 --> 00:44:53,797

And , I don't have a budget

and followers and right.

:

00:44:53,917 --> 00:44:54,817

I'm okay with that.

:

00:44:54,867 --> 00:44:56,967

, I'm I'm happy with my pace.

:

00:44:56,967 --> 00:45:01,767

And I honestly like, I just,

I I'm doing what I want to do.

:

00:45:01,827 --> 00:45:02,367

And.

:

00:45:03,027 --> 00:45:04,857

Producing the content

that I want to produce.

:

00:45:04,917 --> 00:45:05,427

Yeah.

:

00:45:05,487 --> 00:45:06,177

So, Hey.

:

00:45:06,447 --> 00:45:09,027

You just got to stay with it, but

yeah, he was like, oh God, like,

:

00:45:09,537 --> 00:45:10,827

I don't know, how do I do this?

:

00:45:10,827 --> 00:45:11,457

How do I do this?

:

00:45:11,457 --> 00:45:13,857

Like, how do I, he doesn't even

know how to make a real adult.

:

00:45:14,397 --> 00:45:17,187

And I was just like, okay, well, I was

like, let's just start from square one.

:

00:45:17,217 --> 00:45:18,177

Do you have any kids?

:

00:45:21,627 --> 00:45:22,167

Funny enough.

:

00:45:22,167 --> 00:45:22,467

No.

:

00:45:24,687 --> 00:45:28,617

But yeah, it was just like, I mean,

there's really no easy, otherwise.

:

00:45:28,617 --> 00:45:30,177

I mean, we'd all have a million followers.

:

00:45:30,207 --> 00:45:31,017

That's exactly it.

:

00:45:31,047 --> 00:45:32,277

And the learning curve is steep.

:

00:45:32,307 --> 00:45:32,727

I feel like.

:

00:45:33,297 --> 00:45:34,317

That's fair.

:

00:45:34,737 --> 00:45:36,357

It should be it's literally not easy.

:

00:45:36,417 --> 00:45:36,627

No.

:

00:45:37,497 --> 00:45:37,947

I love it.

:

00:45:38,307 --> 00:45:40,257

Well, Wendy, is there anything

else that you want to talk

:

00:45:40,257 --> 00:45:41,757

about or share with people?

:

00:45:43,017 --> 00:45:46,767

Um, Oh, uh, yeah.

:

00:45:46,797 --> 00:45:47,967

Tip your servers.

:

00:45:48,957 --> 00:45:52,227

So I didn't touch base on this,

but I'm going to say it because

:

00:45:52,227 --> 00:45:53,547

it's my number one pet peeve.

:

00:45:53,547 --> 00:45:54,897

Since I've started doing this.

:

00:45:55,557 --> 00:45:57,267

I mean, it just drives me insane.

:

00:45:57,447 --> 00:46:01,347

'cause I, you know, I was a server,

a bartender hostess for so long.

:

00:46:01,377 --> 00:46:01,707

Yeah.

:

00:46:01,707 --> 00:46:04,857

We can invited as influencers

to all these events.

:

00:46:05,367 --> 00:46:05,817

Multiple.

:

00:46:05,817 --> 00:46:07,767

I mean, every, I mean, I

could eat at every meal.

:

00:46:08,487 --> 00:46:09,867

I mean most of us influencers.

:

00:46:09,867 --> 00:46:10,107

Good.

:

00:46:10,137 --> 00:46:10,527

Like.

:

00:46:10,617 --> 00:46:10,797

Yeah.

:

00:46:11,007 --> 00:46:13,467

I'm not saying at the nicest

restaurant in town, every meal.

:

00:46:13,677 --> 00:46:15,507

There's always somebody

who's like somebody.

:

00:46:15,537 --> 00:46:15,927

Yeah.

:

00:46:15,987 --> 00:46:17,067

But that's beside the point.

:

00:46:17,217 --> 00:46:22,497

But most of these influencers

do not tip what exactly.

:

00:46:22,857 --> 00:46:23,757

And they, and I.

:

00:46:24,117 --> 00:46:29,067

At first, I was just like completely

surprised and just dumbfounded by it.

:

00:46:29,307 --> 00:46:30,627

I was like, what?

:

00:46:31,047 --> 00:46:31,917

Like, yeah.

:

00:46:32,437 --> 00:46:36,127

, the first influencer event

I ever went to years ago.

:

00:46:36,877 --> 00:46:39,957

When my friends invited me, , she

does social media for a living.

:

00:46:40,257 --> 00:46:43,467

And so she invited me to this little

influencer event and I was just like, oh

:

00:46:43,467 --> 00:46:45,807

my God, like, I'm going to my first event.

:

00:46:45,837 --> 00:46:46,827

Oh my gosh, I made it.

:

00:46:46,827 --> 00:46:47,817

I had like a hundred dollars.

:

00:46:48,927 --> 00:46:49,287

I love it.

:

00:46:49,467 --> 00:46:53,037

And so I went to this event, I got

to meet all these other influencers.

:

00:46:53,037 --> 00:46:54,627

I thought it was so cool.

:

00:46:54,747 --> 00:46:56,157

And we'll be like, got free food.

:

00:46:56,157 --> 00:46:58,467

Cause I had been going to all

these places just on my own

:

00:46:58,737 --> 00:47:00,087

paying and then posting about it.

:

00:47:00,177 --> 00:47:02,427

Yeah, and I did that for

months and months and months.

:

00:47:02,847 --> 00:47:03,477

And.

:

00:47:03,987 --> 00:47:06,087

We went to, it was this,

this Mexican restaurant.

:

00:47:06,297 --> 00:47:08,407

And, , we already know, you

don't know anything about tacos.

:

00:47:10,237 --> 00:47:10,837

I mean.

:

00:47:11,467 --> 00:47:12,037

Too soon.

:

00:47:12,787 --> 00:47:13,237

Too soon.

:

00:47:15,427 --> 00:47:18,307

This was like for brunch, a little

Mexican restaurant and oh my God.

:

00:47:18,787 --> 00:47:19,627

It was so good.

:

00:47:19,627 --> 00:47:20,737

I loved meeting everyone.

:

00:47:21,127 --> 00:47:24,577

Well, there was, I mean, Just

say, you know, you don't get

:

00:47:24,577 --> 00:47:27,787

along with everyone, but anyways,

there was this one girl or person.

:

00:47:28,447 --> 00:47:28,927

It was a girl.

:

00:47:29,407 --> 00:47:30,277

Rubbed me the wrong way.

:

00:47:30,307 --> 00:47:32,647

We got the bill at the

end, which was zero.

:

00:47:32,707 --> 00:47:35,557

The, you know, my friend, she was

like, okay, like, of course the

:

00:47:35,557 --> 00:47:39,217

meal's free, but she's like, like

if everyone could leave a small tip.

:

00:47:39,307 --> 00:47:39,547

Yeah.

:

00:47:39,877 --> 00:47:41,467

And who are like 10 of us there.

:

00:47:41,467 --> 00:47:44,737

So, I mean, this was

Mexican food, like TexMex.

:

00:47:44,767 --> 00:47:45,187

Okay.

:

00:47:45,217 --> 00:47:49,297

So we each wouldn't have had to

tip like three or four bucks.

:

00:47:49,297 --> 00:47:50,557

Maybe if that.

:

00:47:50,557 --> 00:47:51,907

This, this person.

:

00:47:52,267 --> 00:47:53,287

Gets up from the table.

:

00:47:53,287 --> 00:47:54,997

She's like calm, not tipping.

:

00:47:55,807 --> 00:48:00,247

And I mean, she ate all the food, love

the food, and she just like stormed out of

:

00:48:00,247 --> 00:48:02,767

there and come to find out over the years.

:

00:48:02,767 --> 00:48:04,747

Like she never tips.

:

00:48:05,257 --> 00:48:05,857

Anywhere.

:

00:48:05,887 --> 00:48:07,327

And she's not the only one.

:

00:48:07,327 --> 00:48:08,287

There's quite a few.

:

00:48:08,437 --> 00:48:09,877

That's so disappointing.

:

00:48:09,907 --> 00:48:12,247

I just, I, yeah.

:

00:48:12,427 --> 00:48:15,627

And so I met with, , a PR lady yesterday.

:

00:48:16,707 --> 00:48:20,397

And we were just talking about

restaurant business and all this.

:

00:48:20,427 --> 00:48:23,187

And so at the end of the night,

I didn't even drink last night.

:

00:48:23,187 --> 00:48:26,277

I just went to kind of do videos

of holiday cocktails at this place.

:

00:48:26,787 --> 00:48:28,067

And, , I feel like, oh, let me tip.

:

00:48:28,097 --> 00:48:29,237

So I pulled out 20 bucks.

:

00:48:29,397 --> 00:48:31,167

she said, oh my God, no, no, no, I got it.

:

00:48:31,167 --> 00:48:31,557

I got it.

:

00:48:31,674 --> 00:48:32,274

I was like, what?

:

00:48:32,484 --> 00:48:34,494

I was like, no, you arranged

this whole thing for me.

:

00:48:34,494 --> 00:48:37,254

And oh, and she gave me an

appetizer at the bar and yeah.

:

00:48:37,314 --> 00:48:38,904

So I was, I just left 20 bucks.

:

00:48:38,904 --> 00:48:42,084

They brought me out like six

cocktails and I didn't even try.

:

00:48:42,144 --> 00:48:45,234

I think I tried two of them and

the rest I just took video of

:

00:48:45,264 --> 00:48:48,834

and, So I gave her 20 bucks And she

she's like, oh my God, no, no, no.

:

00:48:49,194 --> 00:48:52,554

And we, you know, we fought over

for 10 minutes and finally I

:

00:48:52,554 --> 00:48:53,784

was like, this is ridiculous.

:

00:48:53,814 --> 00:48:56,664

I was like, I, you know,

I'm not, not tipping.

:

00:48:56,724 --> 00:48:57,984

I was like, put your money away.

:

00:48:58,034 --> 00:48:59,234

And she like got teary-eyed.

:

00:48:59,684 --> 00:49:04,034

And she was like, you are the

fifth influencer in 20 years.

:

00:49:04,304 --> 00:49:05,354

To offer to tip.

:

00:49:05,354 --> 00:49:05,744

I am.

:

00:49:06,434 --> 00:49:07,814

Stand right now.

:

00:49:08,204 --> 00:49:11,744

But I kind of get onto her because

she sends these invite outs at these

:

00:49:11,744 --> 00:49:13,574

invites to influencers out every week.

:

00:49:14,114 --> 00:49:18,824

And so I kind of got onto her

because now what the PR places

:

00:49:18,824 --> 00:49:20,697

are doing they invite you in.

:

00:49:20,737 --> 00:49:24,367

They will say, okay, you're all set

up for your meal for you and a guest.

:

00:49:24,967 --> 00:49:27,427

And sometimes they'll tell you

like, okay, you can spend up

:

00:49:27,427 --> 00:49:29,737

to like $150, $200, whatever.

:

00:49:29,947 --> 00:49:31,417

Or most of the time, they'll just say.

:

00:49:31,681 --> 00:49:33,751

meals, comped and two cocktails each.

:

00:49:33,841 --> 00:49:34,291

Okay.

:

00:49:34,741 --> 00:49:35,251

Most of the time.

:

00:49:35,251 --> 00:49:38,971

That's what they'll say, but they'll

put because of these influencers that

:

00:49:38,971 --> 00:49:41,971

don't tip, they'll write in big, bold

letters at the bottom of the email.

:

00:49:42,301 --> 00:49:45,511

But gratuity is not included.

:

00:49:45,631 --> 00:49:47,701

You have to tip at least 20%.

:

00:49:48,031 --> 00:49:50,281

Well, that was what I was going to

say without knowing how this goes.

:

00:49:50,281 --> 00:49:53,851

My assumption would be you would just

tip 20% on what the bill would have been.

:

00:49:54,091 --> 00:49:54,541

Yep.

:

00:49:54,811 --> 00:49:57,841

I mean, doesn't that seem normal to

you completely, but a lot of these

:

00:49:57,841 --> 00:50:01,111

influencers apparently are like,

well, I'm doing a post for you.

:

00:50:01,111 --> 00:50:03,211

And, you know, normally I would charge.

:

00:50:03,661 --> 00:50:08,521

Five $700 for a post, but I'm

like, these are local restaurants.

:

00:50:08,731 --> 00:50:09,451

Human beat.

:

00:50:09,481 --> 00:50:10,321

Like what?

:

00:50:10,351 --> 00:50:14,501

Yeah, I just, I mean, I still can't

wrap my head around it and I used

:

00:50:14,501 --> 00:50:17,801

to host an influencer event in town

once a month at local restaurants

:

00:50:17,801 --> 00:50:20,801

when I was first starting out,

I just love planning events.

:

00:50:20,891 --> 00:50:24,371

Obviously I did it for years, but I

just love putting the events together.

:

00:50:24,731 --> 00:50:27,671

And I loved meeting all the

different influencers and promoting.

:

00:50:28,121 --> 00:50:30,641

These little restaurants are not

even little restaurants, just

:

00:50:30,671 --> 00:50:31,991

great restaurants that I loved.

:

00:50:32,021 --> 00:50:32,411

Yeah.

:

00:50:32,501 --> 00:50:38,311

And, , I remember I invited one person

and they asked if the restaurant

:

00:50:38,311 --> 00:50:40,771

would pay for her valet and her gas.

:

00:50:40,771 --> 00:50:43,111

You can't see me right

now, but my jaw is dropped.

:

00:50:43,531 --> 00:50:47,641

Oh, I D I mean, I deleted

her from everything.

:

00:50:47,701 --> 00:50:48,421

You're experts.

:

00:50:49,571 --> 00:50:50,621

The person didn't have that many.

:

00:50:51,281 --> 00:50:54,431

Yeah, it didn't have that

many followers, but also.

:

00:50:55,091 --> 00:50:56,861

Most of these people,

this is not what they do.

:

00:50:56,861 --> 00:50:57,401

Full-time.

:

00:50:57,671 --> 00:50:58,661

So they're working.

:

00:50:59,681 --> 00:51:04,564

And also, if you don't have money

for gas, Don't leave your house.

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00:51:04,594 --> 00:51:05,074

Correct.

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00:51:05,254 --> 00:51:06,394

And if you don't have money for a tip.

:

00:51:06,604 --> 00:51:07,504

You can't go out to eat.

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00:51:07,534 --> 00:51:08,524

Don't go out to eat.

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00:51:08,554 --> 00:51:12,304

Yeah, I just, I, and I still, I

refuse to like accept it, but the

:

00:51:12,304 --> 00:51:13,474

lady last night was telling me.

:

00:51:13,924 --> 00:51:17,254

, she was like, oh my God, PR

agencies are like riding the 20%

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00:51:17,254 --> 00:51:18,334

thing at the bottom of the email.

:

00:51:18,334 --> 00:51:20,674

I was like a hundred

percent, almost all of them.

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00:51:21,064 --> 00:51:22,474

And I was like, you should too.

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00:51:22,534 --> 00:51:23,284

Totally.

:

00:51:23,314 --> 00:51:26,674

And she was like, oh, well, there's like

an influencer coming tonight for a dinner.

:

00:51:26,704 --> 00:51:31,014

And, , tomorrow for a lunch and

this I'm just like, and you just

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00:51:31,014 --> 00:51:32,244

pay for the tip for all of them.

:

00:51:32,244 --> 00:51:32,994

And she's like, yeah.

:

00:51:33,624 --> 00:51:33,924

Okay.

:

00:51:33,924 --> 00:51:37,944

So at least in those cases, if the

influencer isn't tipping, she is she okay?

:

00:51:37,944 --> 00:51:38,304

Yeah.

:

00:51:38,364 --> 00:51:40,164

Well, at least the stats

can be easy though.

:

00:51:40,254 --> 00:51:41,364

That is completely crazy.

:

00:51:41,514 --> 00:51:44,484

Our lady should not be dipping for you.

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00:51:44,514 --> 00:51:44,994

Like.

:

00:51:45,234 --> 00:51:46,764

You ain't got money to leave a tip.

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00:51:46,824 --> 00:51:47,304

Yeah.

:

00:51:47,514 --> 00:51:52,014

And I mean, Oh, and one thing, like,

people don't know, like, yes, I get

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00:51:52,104 --> 00:51:55,974

a ton of free meals and drinks and

I mean, I get a ton of free stuff.

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00:51:56,004 --> 00:51:56,844

I really do.

:

00:51:57,534 --> 00:52:02,004

I tip and I took at least

20%, these tips out up, I just

:

00:52:02,004 --> 00:52:03,794

went to a Crazy sushi thing.

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00:52:03,794 --> 00:52:07,094

And the bill was $500 or more.

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00:52:07,544 --> 00:52:10,994

You know, And you tip 20% on that, plus

you pay for valet and this and that.

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00:52:11,054 --> 00:52:11,474

Yeah.

:

00:52:11,534 --> 00:52:14,864

And I went to like, you know,

eight restaurants that week.

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00:52:14,894 --> 00:52:15,074

Yeah.

:

00:52:15,734 --> 00:52:16,934

I spend a lot in tips.

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00:52:16,934 --> 00:52:17,414

Yeah.

:

00:52:17,474 --> 00:52:21,644

So it's not, but I pay,

I'm happy to do it right.

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00:52:21,884 --> 00:52:22,244

I'm happy.

:

00:52:22,244 --> 00:52:23,534

You're not a terrible person.

:

00:52:23,684 --> 00:52:26,054

I mean, that's the one thing

that like completely blew

:

00:52:26,054 --> 00:52:27,374

my mind by this whole thing.

:

00:52:27,704 --> 00:52:30,554

And I think a lot of people don't know

that they maybe they just, or maybe they

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00:52:30,554 --> 00:52:31,934

just, I don't know what people think.

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00:52:32,444 --> 00:52:34,844

I always just assumed of course you dip.

:

00:52:35,174 --> 00:52:36,734

I assume the absolute same.

:

00:52:36,974 --> 00:52:39,524

Why wouldn't you, but maybe some

people just think, oh, that's

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00:52:39,524 --> 00:52:43,514

included, or I don't know, but me, I

was just completely shocked by that.

:

00:52:43,574 --> 00:52:46,874

Even if it's included, I would F

I would feel like, Hey, you just

:

00:52:46,874 --> 00:52:48,674

gave me $150 a meal for free.

:

00:52:48,674 --> 00:52:50,714

Like, yeah, let me

compensate you for your time.

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00:52:50,894 --> 00:52:51,464

Thank you.

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00:52:51,554 --> 00:52:51,824

Yeah.

:

00:52:52,064 --> 00:52:52,544

Whoa.

:

00:52:52,704 --> 00:52:54,354

, it's funny, you mentioned this because I.

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00:52:54,354 --> 00:52:56,964

Hopefully next year, but at some

point I'm writing an etiquette book

:

00:52:57,234 --> 00:52:59,724

and tipping is a huge thing for me.

:

00:52:59,914 --> 00:53:03,064

, I've owned a salon for 10 years

from the day I opened my doors.

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00:53:03,064 --> 00:53:05,884

It's been a gratuity free environment

because I think tipping is just

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00:53:05,884 --> 00:53:10,114

such a hot topic and a professional

should charge what they're worth.

:

00:53:10,414 --> 00:53:12,634

But when you're talking about the

service industry and there's somebody

:

00:53:12,664 --> 00:53:14,374

who's getting paid, what $5 an hour.

:

00:53:14,424 --> 00:53:17,334

That tip you mentally need to

prepare for it in your meal.

:

00:53:17,844 --> 00:53:18,654

Oh, you can't go out to eat.

:

00:53:18,954 --> 00:53:22,444

And one of my favorite ex-boyfriends

Martin, , he's a German guy.

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00:53:22,684 --> 00:53:23,944

And that he.

:

00:53:24,004 --> 00:53:25,054

You know, you don't tip like that.

:

00:53:25,084 --> 00:53:27,724

You round up a little, it was

super good in Europe, but it's

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00:53:27,724 --> 00:53:30,814

all included because they actually

pay a living wage to their servers.

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00:53:31,084 --> 00:53:33,514

, That's another episode,

but we will go out to eat.

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00:53:33,514 --> 00:53:36,244

And when he would pick up the

bill, I would glance over it.

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00:53:36,244 --> 00:53:40,084

And I'm like, Martin, you

can't tip $5 on $170 a meal.

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00:53:40,114 --> 00:53:42,094

He was like, yo, Eric,

I don't know why not.

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00:53:42,094 --> 00:53:43,384

I don't understand this tipping.

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00:53:43,684 --> 00:53:44,224

And I'm like Martin?

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00:53:44,284 --> 00:53:44,524

No.

:

00:53:44,584 --> 00:53:47,914

And like, I would always have cash with

me when I knew he was taking me out and

:

00:53:47,914 --> 00:53:49,414

like, I'd be like, oh, go get the car.

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00:53:49,414 --> 00:53:51,524

And I'd throw down a bunch

of extra cash to tip people.

:

00:53:51,554 --> 00:53:52,454

Cause I'm like, what the fuck?

:

00:53:52,724 --> 00:53:55,874

But like his excuses, culturally,

this is completely different.

:

00:53:55,874 --> 00:54:00,224

But if you live here and you've grown up

and you've been in public, you know, damn

:

00:54:00,224 --> 00:54:02,114

well, there's an expectation of a tip.

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00:54:02,174 --> 00:54:02,444

Yeah.

:

00:54:02,714 --> 00:54:04,394

It blows my mind when people are.

:

00:54:04,394 --> 00:54:05,324

Cheap it's cheap.

:

00:54:05,324 --> 00:54:05,684

It's cheap.

:

00:54:05,684 --> 00:54:06,344

That's the bottom line.

:

00:54:06,824 --> 00:54:08,744

Yeah, it's it makes no sense to me at all.

:

00:54:08,804 --> 00:54:11,564

And I know that's something

I just won't get over.

:

00:54:11,624 --> 00:54:13,304

Like I'm not over it.

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00:54:15,284 --> 00:54:16,244

I'm glad you shared that.

:

00:54:16,244 --> 00:54:20,774

If one person listening is an influencer

who doesn't tip and they're like, oh,

:

00:54:20,804 --> 00:54:22,754

damn, then this episode is worth it.

:

00:54:24,494 --> 00:54:26,264

They're probably like,

well, of course I don't tip.

:

00:54:26,894 --> 00:54:30,824

I do a video for them, but

I'm just, I mean, Hey, it's

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00:54:30,824 --> 00:54:32,114

just, it's not cool for me.

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00:54:32,114 --> 00:54:34,064

Like it's cool for people to do that.

:

00:54:34,094 --> 00:54:35,024

I'm not for it.

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00:54:35,204 --> 00:54:36,644

No, like I'm with you.

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00:54:37,244 --> 00:54:40,184

I'm with you, but yeah, that's

most surprising thing also.

:

00:54:40,184 --> 00:54:43,514

I really liked the idea that

you don't do gratuity, right?

:

00:54:43,974 --> 00:54:45,984

Whenever I get like beauty services done.

:

00:54:46,014 --> 00:54:49,314

I never, because you're already

paying like hundreds of dollars,

:

00:54:49,344 --> 00:54:52,344

large amount cracked, and I'm

always like, how much do I tip?

:

00:54:52,944 --> 00:54:54,834

Well, the answer is 20%.

:

00:54:55,044 --> 00:54:56,244

I mean, that's just like standard.

:

00:54:56,364 --> 00:55:00,404

However, to me, , if you were a licensed

professional, You don't tip a doctor.

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00:55:00,404 --> 00:55:01,244

You don't tip a lawyer.

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00:55:01,304 --> 00:55:01,484

Yeah.

:

00:55:01,604 --> 00:55:02,954

Charge, whatever the amount is.

:

00:55:02,954 --> 00:55:05,444

And then why are you

leaving 20% of your income?

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00:55:05,744 --> 00:55:06,944

Up to grabs like.

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00:55:07,244 --> 00:55:07,394

No.

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00:55:07,394 --> 00:55:07,814

Thanks.

:

00:55:08,234 --> 00:55:09,074

This is the price.

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00:55:09,584 --> 00:55:10,814

The end and there's that.

:

00:55:10,904 --> 00:55:13,664

You know that moment when they spin the

iPad around, it's like, it's just going

:

00:55:13,694 --> 00:55:16,184

to ask you a couple of little questions

and then the person who just cut your hair

:

00:55:16,184 --> 00:55:17,564

standing right there over your shoulder.

:

00:55:17,564 --> 00:55:19,394

And it's like, you're relaxed.

:

00:55:19,394 --> 00:55:20,024

You're feeling good.

:

00:55:20,024 --> 00:55:23,264

And then you get this tension right

at the end and it's like, so stupid.

:

00:55:23,414 --> 00:55:23,774

Yeah.

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00:55:23,804 --> 00:55:24,104

So.

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00:55:24,494 --> 00:55:24,764

Hmm.

:

00:55:24,764 --> 00:55:25,364

Yeah, I like that.

:

00:55:25,394 --> 00:55:25,844

You do that.

:

00:55:26,054 --> 00:55:26,474

Thank you.

:

00:55:27,524 --> 00:55:28,544

All my clients do to you.

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00:55:28,574 --> 00:55:29,504

I mean, people love it.

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00:55:29,534 --> 00:55:32,794

And, , I'm no influencer, but I know

that I have friends in the industry

:

00:55:32,794 --> 00:55:34,644

who have adopted that same, process.

:

00:55:34,644 --> 00:55:35,304

And it's just.

:

00:55:35,694 --> 00:55:39,564

It elevates your profession and it just,

nobody likes to pink, but you have to tip

:

00:55:39,594 --> 00:55:42,024

when you're in the service industry, when

you're talking about food and drinks and

:

00:55:42,024 --> 00:55:43,404

stuff like that, it's just not optional.

:

00:55:43,584 --> 00:55:43,944

Hmm.

:

00:55:44,994 --> 00:55:49,404

I would tell my salon to do that,

but I guess it'd be kind of hard if

:

00:55:49,404 --> 00:55:52,074

you've had clients for like years

and years, and then all of a sudden

:

00:55:52,074 --> 00:55:53,364

you're like, Hey, we're doing this now.

:

00:55:53,364 --> 00:55:54,474

I don't know if they'd like it.

:

00:55:54,654 --> 00:55:55,014

They will.

:

00:55:55,014 --> 00:55:56,784

I w I can confirm that they'll love it.

:

00:55:56,844 --> 00:55:57,744

Cause I did the same thing.

:

00:55:57,744 --> 00:56:00,384

Cause I worked, you know, I spent

the first half of my career working

:

00:56:00,384 --> 00:56:03,234

in just like a classic salon

model where, you know, a haircut

:

00:56:03,234 --> 00:56:05,544

$75 and you tip $15 on top of it.

:

00:56:05,544 --> 00:56:05,634

And.

:

00:56:06,424 --> 00:56:08,284

, and so I was like, Hey,

I'm raising my prices.

:

00:56:08,284 --> 00:56:12,424

And it's the price that I raised it to you

is what the price was with the 20% tip.

:

00:56:12,634 --> 00:56:14,374

And so then I got people

used to that for a year.

:

00:56:14,404 --> 00:56:16,414

And then every couple of years

I raised my prices from there.

:

00:56:16,414 --> 00:56:18,544

And you just, it's all

about just training people.

:

00:56:18,604 --> 00:56:18,904

Yeah.

:

00:56:19,204 --> 00:56:20,044

But everybody loves it.

:

00:56:20,044 --> 00:56:22,804

Cause it's like you go in and

there's no shock or surprise,

:

00:56:22,804 --> 00:56:23,794

the price is the price.

:

00:56:24,124 --> 00:56:25,114

And it's like, all right, cool.

:

00:56:25,174 --> 00:56:25,834

Do you in eight weeks?

:

00:56:27,244 --> 00:56:28,804

I like that rinse and repeat.

:

00:56:28,954 --> 00:56:29,314

Yeah.

:

00:56:29,414 --> 00:56:32,474

, so when do you, will you share with us

your social media and where everybody can

:

00:56:32,474 --> 00:56:34,484

find you and all of your amazing contents?

:

00:56:34,754 --> 00:56:35,384

Yes.

:

00:56:35,444 --> 00:56:35,894

So

:

00:56:35,934 --> 00:56:37,554

I'm most active on Instagram.

:

00:56:37,584 --> 00:56:38,574

, the bubbly talk.

:

00:56:39,084 --> 00:56:39,414

Perfect.

:

00:56:39,414 --> 00:56:39,774

Yup.

:

00:56:39,834 --> 00:56:43,254

Bubbly and it's oh, my name is

actually, I want to clear this up.

:

00:56:43,764 --> 00:56:45,834

I get sent a lot of champagne.

:

00:56:46,164 --> 00:56:48,564

I mean all the time, every week.

:

00:56:48,924 --> 00:56:50,244

Can we send you champagne?

:

00:56:50,394 --> 00:56:51,384

Do you want to work with us?

:

00:56:51,594 --> 00:56:54,144

I actually don't really like champagne.

:

00:56:54,174 --> 00:56:54,864

Oh, wow.

:

00:56:55,944 --> 00:56:58,764

Yeah, I'll have one glass

that's about it, but okay.

:

00:56:59,064 --> 00:57:01,734

I mean, I like a really good

glass of champagne, right.

:

00:57:01,824 --> 00:57:05,414

But, you know, on spec, you know,

special occasions or some, but, , No,

:

00:57:05,414 --> 00:57:07,394

it's just for probably personality wise.

:

00:57:07,424 --> 00:57:08,144

Yeah.

:

00:57:08,264 --> 00:57:08,774

That's all.

:

00:57:08,774 --> 00:57:12,584

It was like, I just thought

the name was cute and my friend

:

00:57:12,584 --> 00:57:14,024

came up with a logo for it.

:

00:57:14,084 --> 00:57:15,074

That was really cute.

:

00:57:15,104 --> 00:57:15,764

And.

:

00:57:16,064 --> 00:57:17,294

That's what the name is from.

:

00:57:17,504 --> 00:57:20,564

So I still love you Dom.

:

00:57:20,594 --> 00:57:22,094

Like I will work with you.

:

00:57:22,424 --> 00:57:26,084

But I love your products, but, , no.

:

00:57:26,624 --> 00:57:27,914

My name is not after champagne.

:

00:57:28,274 --> 00:57:29,324

I feel like that's a good thing too.

:

00:57:29,564 --> 00:57:30,284

To clarify.

:

00:57:30,344 --> 00:57:30,554

Yeah.

:

00:57:30,854 --> 00:57:31,814

Everyone thinks it is.

:

00:57:31,814 --> 00:57:33,464

They're like, oh, you big champagne lover.

:

00:57:33,494 --> 00:57:34,814

I'm like, I mean, yeah.

:

00:57:35,534 --> 00:57:36,554

I'm just a bubbly bombed.

:

00:57:38,894 --> 00:57:40,934

. And I actually was going

to start a podcast.

:

00:57:41,144 --> 00:57:42,554

That was my whole thing I was going to do.

:

00:57:43,184 --> 00:57:45,524

I had no intention of

like do an Instagram.

:

00:57:45,554 --> 00:57:46,724

I was going to do a podcast.

:

00:57:47,174 --> 00:57:48,914

Then I realized I don't like talking.

:

00:57:49,614 --> 00:57:50,964

That's why I don't talk on my reels.

:

00:57:50,964 --> 00:57:52,104

I don't talk on my stories.

:

00:57:52,104 --> 00:57:53,154

I can't stand it.

:

00:57:53,154 --> 00:57:55,944

I really hate listening to

other people talk except you,

:

00:57:55,944 --> 00:57:56,964

you have a very nice voice.

:

00:57:57,204 --> 00:57:57,594

Thank you.

:

00:57:57,984 --> 00:57:58,794

I like you.

:

00:57:58,824 --> 00:57:58,884

I.

:

00:57:58,914 --> 00:58:00,654

I like your voice and Heather McMahon.

:

00:58:01,014 --> 00:58:04,164

Yeah, I can listen to her all day long

and she just has a voice that like

:

00:58:04,194 --> 00:58:06,084

doesn't bother me, but most people.

:

00:58:06,504 --> 00:58:07,464

I don't like their voice.

:

00:58:07,674 --> 00:58:10,344

I listened to all my

stories and stuff on silent.

:

00:58:10,464 --> 00:58:11,184

Oh, funny.

:

00:58:11,244 --> 00:58:11,934

And I like it.

:

00:58:11,934 --> 00:58:14,004

That's why I like it when

they have the texts come up.

:

00:58:14,004 --> 00:58:15,054

So, you know what they're saying?

:

00:58:15,594 --> 00:58:17,664

But, yeah, so I was like, podcast is out.

:

00:58:19,254 --> 00:58:20,454

I can't listen to myself.

:

00:58:20,544 --> 00:58:21,624

That's so funny.

:

00:58:21,774 --> 00:58:22,584

I think you have a nice way.

:

00:58:22,644 --> 00:58:26,574

I think everybody thinks their own voice

sounds weird, but I don't like, I mean,

:

00:58:26,574 --> 00:58:28,464

I definitely sound like I'm Southern.

:

00:58:29,694 --> 00:58:30,324

A hundred percent.

:

00:58:31,644 --> 00:58:33,084

What are the first call you a dumb hick.

:

00:58:33,894 --> 00:58:35,454

I mean, I wouldn't go that far.

:

00:58:35,754 --> 00:58:37,314

But when you.

:

00:58:38,124 --> 00:58:39,774

You asked me where I was from.

:

00:58:39,774 --> 00:58:41,574

Like, they're like, oh

yeah, she's from Merriville.

:

00:58:43,404 --> 00:58:43,854

Nailed it.

:

00:58:43,914 --> 00:58:45,324

She's from outside Knoxville.

:

00:58:45,384 --> 00:58:45,744

Oh yeah.

:

00:58:45,804 --> 00:58:46,884

She's a Tennessee girl.

:

00:58:47,094 --> 00:58:47,724

We hear it.

:

00:58:47,904 --> 00:58:49,224

Does it come out more when you drink?

:

00:58:49,284 --> 00:58:50,454

Oh, oh yeah.

:

00:58:51,024 --> 00:58:54,264

Get me on my mom drunk and see

that two glasses of wine and

:

00:58:54,264 --> 00:58:55,794

just, oh God, it's a, he haul.

:

00:58:56,004 --> 00:58:56,394

Oh, no.

:

00:58:58,794 --> 00:58:59,484

That's so fun.

:

00:58:59,964 --> 00:59:01,644

And my whole family, like my mom's side.

:

00:59:01,674 --> 00:59:02,364

Oh my God.

:

00:59:02,634 --> 00:59:04,644

During the holidays, like

get a group together.

:

00:59:05,034 --> 00:59:06,564

It is just no.

:

00:59:06,774 --> 00:59:09,294

Well, this, I bet that's adorable.

:

00:59:09,924 --> 00:59:10,284

No.

:

00:59:10,344 --> 00:59:10,854

It's like.

:

00:59:11,244 --> 00:59:12,204

It's just a bunch of.

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Uh, no.

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I mean, it's like down

country where I'm bro.

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I love it, especially

my mom where she's from.

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Oh my God.

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When I tell you like the whole family.

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We won't get into that.

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That's another day.

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I love it.

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00:59:26,334 --> 00:59:28,374

Well, you're always welcome

back to do more podcasts.

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If you want to talk about

your family tree or no.

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Or hiring.

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Did I say he on.

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But it's a whole year.

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00:59:38,724 --> 00:59:40,674

Oh, yeah, let's delete that.

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I will, if you judge.

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00:59:45,204 --> 00:59:46,074

It was cute though.

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00:59:47,134 --> 00:59:49,624

But yeah, the bubbly talk,

Instagram is my most.

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Used one.

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I'm on tic-tac I'm on all of them.

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Pinterest.

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00:59:54,254 --> 00:59:57,644

I'm not on YouTube, but yeah,

Instagram is the main one to find me.

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That's where I spend my time.

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Okay, perfect.

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01:00:00,404 --> 01:00:02,264

Well, everybody give, when do you follow?

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And we will link her accounts to

our show notes and of course the

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post about her and, and link on

her Instagram and stuff like that.

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And we thank you so much for your

time and for listening to today's

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episode, I hope you, , Enjoyed getting

a behind the veil of influencing.

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01:00:16,104 --> 01:00:22,294

I know I learned a lot, , as

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And, , yeah, Wendy, thank you so much in.

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We'll look forward to

seeing everyone next week.

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01:00:34,184 --> 01:00:34,574

Yes.

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Thank you for having me.

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01:00:35,594 --> 01:00:36,584

Thank you, Wendy.

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Bye everyone.

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