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4:01 Lazarus Rising
Episode 117th February 2022 • Devil's Trap: A Supernatural Podcast • Don't Be A Dick Productions
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We made it to Season 4! It's Episode 1 Lazarus Rising and Dean is back from Hell! Learn he's not the only one who has woken up in a grave as Liz tells the story of Alice Blunden, the woman who was buried alive twice!

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Speaker A:

Welcome to season four, a double strap podcast.

Speaker A:

On tonight's episode, we're going to learn can Dean use the Oreos inside his ears to make a dirt cake?

Speaker B:

And Sam's hand magic.

Speaker B:

It's cosmic.

Speaker B:

Let's do this.

Speaker B:

Welcome to another episode of Devil's Trap podcast.

Speaker B:

We are starting season four,.

Speaker A:

The year it all begins.

Speaker B:

I'm so excited.

Speaker A:

I'm so, so excited, too.

Speaker A:

I keep.

Speaker A:

I want to say something and ask you, but I just took a drink of my bubblies and now I want to burp.

Speaker A:

So I feel like if I ask something, you ask, you know,.

Speaker B:

I was going to.

Speaker B:

I was just gonna say I'm excited to start season four, episode one.

Speaker B:

We're gonna talk about Lazarus Rising tonight.

Speaker B:

But first, what's going on with you?

Speaker A:

So we're coming at you from the past in the future.

Speaker A:

Is that how that works?

Speaker A:

I don't know.

Speaker A:

We basically are recording this a week earlier and you think we're having a week off, but we are having a week.

Speaker A:

I'm very confused.

Speaker A:

I hate time travel.

Speaker A:

Anyways, in these past two weeks, I know it's been very eventful with the lizard people taking over the world.

Speaker A:

I know it's been pretty scary transition, but I, for one, support our new lizard overlords.

Speaker B:

Good to know.

Speaker B:

Good to know.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

I'm glad that Liz's crystal ball was able to help us out and be prepared for this airing.

Speaker A:

Yes, yes.

Speaker A:

You know,.

Speaker B:

So, yeah, let's say you want to make a.

Speaker B:

Want to make a Super bowl prediction, because that's coming up for us.

Speaker A:

But how do we even know who's playing in the Super Bowl?

Speaker A:

Which is really stupid because I've got a work secret that I can't tell.

Speaker A:

That I can tell in like a couple of weeks.

Speaker A:

But I should know who's playing.

Speaker B:

Babe's favorite team is playing, so it's a big deal.

Speaker A:

I don't know who his favorite team is.

Speaker A:

I.

Speaker A:

Why would I know Sports.

Speaker A:

Well, teasing you.

Speaker B:

I'm just teasing you.

Speaker A:

All I know is that does mean there is going to be a puppy bowl and a kitten halftime show.

Speaker A:

So.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

And the puppy bowl has gotten ridiculous over the past few years.

Speaker A:

Like, they've gotten like Martha Stewart, like, in Snoop are doing it last time.

Speaker B:

Like, Snoop's gonna be busy this year because he's part of the halft show at the Super Bowl.

Speaker B:

It's gonna be like 90s hip hop, like, big time show.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

So, but anyway, I'll be entertained and I'll be staying out of his way and feeding him good snacks like cheeses so that I can stay out of the way.

Speaker B:

But, yeah, that's all I got.

Speaker B:

I don't have a lot to report otherwise.

Speaker B:

We.

Speaker B:

We both survived a recent Snowmageddon again in Dallas or in Texas.

Speaker A:

It was not us.

Speaker A:

It was not a Snowmageddon.

Speaker A:

It was like.

Speaker B:

It was like a teaser of us.

Speaker B:

It was like a little taste.

Speaker B:

It was just the tip.

Speaker A:

It was just the tip of the ice, and it was a lot of ice.

Speaker A:

I was stuck at my house for a couple of days.

Speaker A:

Whatever.

Speaker A:

It was fine.

Speaker A:

I don't mind.

Speaker A:

I do not mind being stuck in my house for a couple of days.

Speaker B:

I'm not allowed to leave my house for two weekdays.

Speaker A:

Oh, no.

Speaker A:

And I have a fridge full of pasta and all this wine and other things, like, sure.

Speaker A:

Although I did.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

But by this weekend, I had to drive to San Antonio and back.

Speaker A:

And it was.

Speaker A:

Or last weekend, whatever.

Speaker A:

By some weekend that happened in February,.

Speaker B:

It was between the time you heard from me last and now I drove.

Speaker A:

San Antonio and back.

Speaker A:

And it was fine in my.

Speaker A:

In my sporty little car.

Speaker A:

But, yeah, I know what else is going on.

Speaker A:

Coming soon.

Speaker A:

At the end of February, Alamo Hero Con, which I used to go to in San Antonio, which is why it was called Alamo Hero Con.

Speaker A:

And I remember competing, like, this is, like, while ago.

Speaker A:

And I do remember that I actually went into the cosplay contest or the costume contest, and I even get, like, place or anything.

Speaker A:

And I thought it was awesome because I went as Laura Craft Tomb Crafter.

Speaker A:

And so, like, I had, like, a Laura Croft outfit on, except I had, like, jeans and not, I mean, black utility pants and not short shorts, because the girl.

Speaker A:

But, like, instead of, like, guns, I had glue guns.

Speaker A:

And I have, like, all sorts of, like, crafting shit everywhere.

Speaker A:

And I love a good costume pun.

Speaker A:

And those suckers didn't appreciate it.

Speaker A:

Fuck them.

Speaker A:

But now the.

Speaker A:

The con is going to be in Austin and Mark Shepard, who Diana still doesn't know who he is, but he's amazing.

Speaker A:

She knows who he is.

Speaker A:

He's not on the show.

Speaker A:

And Ruth Connell is going to be there and a whole bunch of other supernatural people and Baby, Baby will be there.

Speaker A:

So if you're in the Austin area, come out to Hero Con.

Speaker A:

I think I'm going Sunday.

Speaker A:

I may maybe going Saturday, too.

Speaker A:

I don't know.

Speaker A:

But I'll be there.

Speaker B:

I'll have to miss it.

Speaker A:

Peggy will probably be there because now I kind of feel like I can just taunt supernatural people and be like, look, Rob Benedict took a picture with the possum.

Speaker A:

Do you want Rob Benedict to be better than you?

Speaker A:

And then they'll be like, fine, like, yeah, just give me a picture of the possum.

Speaker B:

So, yeah, I like it.

Speaker B:

I like it.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

What are you drinking?

Speaker A:

I am drinking a Senor Vineyards Blanc de Blanc Chardonnay.

Speaker A:

And it's, it's not sparkling.

Speaker A:

I thought I was opening a sparkling.

Speaker A:

Wait, is blanc de Blanc.

Speaker A:

I don't know.

Speaker A:

It's kind of sparkling.

Speaker B:

I don't know.

Speaker A:

I'm drinking a wine from Texas.

Speaker A:

It's white.

Speaker B:

I'm drinking some to the paternales again.

Speaker B:

I like it.

Speaker B:

Plus, I'm about to get my shipments from a wine club that's always the best I stocked on my Texas wines.

Speaker B:

I like it.

Speaker A:

Well.

Speaker A:

And we're finally like, spring is almost here.

Speaker A:

Not that we have a super long winter, but that means it's time to go to go frolic through the hill country again and go look at all the wildflowers and get shit faced on wine.

Speaker B:

Yes.

Speaker A:

Or, you know, just, you don't have to drink.

Speaker A:

But you know, there's lots of vineyards.

Speaker B:

Out there and so why wouldn't.

Speaker A:

Why not?

Speaker A:

So anyways, I think we can, we can jump into this episode.

Speaker A:

We got a few things to talk about.

Speaker A:

And one thing too, I think we'll notice Laura's probably going to get creative as we start going or, you know, going further along and moving further away from monster of the week.

Speaker A:

But this will be happening and other things will be happening too.

Speaker A:

So don't worry about that.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

And so really excited.

Speaker A:

Again, we always get to say this, but, you know, it's.

Speaker A:

This is Diana's first time watching.

Speaker A:

Watching this.

Speaker B:

Yes.

Speaker A:

If this is your first time joining us, just a quick reminder that I was seeing these episodes like 9,000 times and Diana, these are her first time, so.

Speaker A:

All right.

Speaker A:

,:

Speaker A:

So we know like super true canons me some good stuff going on.

Speaker A:

A couple of things just about this in general.

Speaker A:

So according to the awesome Supernatural Wiki, there were a number of foilers that were released for this.

Speaker A:

Do you know what a foiler is?

Speaker B:

No.

Speaker A:

It's like a false flag to like fool people about, like what's going to happen in this season or in the episodes.

Speaker A:

So when they were casting it, they didn't want to put sides out for the characters, because it would.

Speaker A:

If word got around, it would ruin what was going to happen this season.

Speaker A:

So the casting sides for Castiel indicated that he was a demon.

Speaker A:

And he.

Speaker A:

And Misha has said that, you know, he prepared for this role on that.

Speaker A:

That audition based on that.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker A:

So he was like, oh, I'm going to have to be a demon.

Speaker A:

And that's how he prepared for this.

Speaker A:

So.

Speaker A:

And when Genevieve was cast, he said that he'd issued a statement saying she would be playing a small town waitress named Christie who gets romantically involved with Sam Jared sometime after Dean's death.

Speaker A:

Dean was not named in the side, although a character named Guy appear in order to keep the manner of Dean's reappearance a secret.

Speaker A:

Isn't that cool?

Speaker A:

Foiled again.

Speaker A:

Yes, you were foiled, but not spoiled.

Speaker A:

I don't know if that came before spoiler.

Speaker A:

I guess not.

Speaker A:

2008, We had the Internet, so spoilers were a thing already.

Speaker B:

Yeah, I think, like, and then we didn't have as much streaming, so, like, spoilers were really a thing.

Speaker B:

I think, like, also when I think of, like, for Foiler, I also think of, like, foods wrapped in foil.

Speaker B:

I'm just saying.

Speaker A:

I do think.

Speaker A:

Yeah, I go with like, foiled again.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

I think of a little villain thinking of, like a little pocket of food in a. I just ate too.

Speaker B:

I'm not hungry.

Speaker B:

I don't know why.

Speaker B:

Go ahead.

Speaker B:

Sorry.

Speaker B:

It's okay.

Speaker A:

The other kind of fun, like, showbiz fact about this one.

Speaker A:

So this premiere pulled in 3.96 million viewers.

Speaker A:

And that was 33% above what the season three did.

Speaker A:

And the best numbers that Supernatural had ever had in CW.

Speaker A:

And it was up 42% among 18 to 19 to 49 year olds compared to season three.

Speaker A:

Yep.

Speaker A:

And you know, when we get to the ipod in here, this was.

Speaker A:

It was considered.

Speaker A:

This is again from the wiki.

Speaker A:

I just thought it was a weird fact.

Speaker A:

So it was called, like, it was an.

Speaker A:

The product placement was made in, like, the recall.

Speaker A:

This ranked number one in terms of recall among broadcast network product placements.

Speaker A:

So basically meant it was recalled 2.3 times more than the average product placement.

Speaker A:

And then this kind of led to other things.

Speaker A:

Like, so after this is when Chuck started having, like, all the weird fucking, like, Microsoft shit in there.

Speaker A:

Like, I think it's got real, like, heavy on some of the product placement.

Speaker B:

Interesting.

Speaker A:

And I think it still kind of is.

Speaker A:

But I don't know if we can blame this, but.

Speaker B:

All right, ready to jump in?

Speaker A:

Let's Go in.

Speaker B:

So recap.

Speaker B:

We can start this up.

Speaker B:

The season.

Speaker B:

I mean, they obviously have a season recap, a season three recap going into this kind of a refresher.

Speaker B:

And that's the song we get is we get some ac dc you shook me all night long.

Speaker B:

Going in, I tried to make some notes and I'm like, oh, okay, what's important here.

Speaker B:

Because they've done pretty well at like, kind of like highlighting what we're leading into.

Speaker B:

And so we've got a lot of Ruby Lilith fighting.

Speaker B:

That's what we're getting.

Speaker B:

That's the key things that we're getting in this.

Speaker B:

And then obviously Dean Bean did so.

Speaker A:

And yeah, and my note in that was that ACDC makes his death a lot less traumatizing.

Speaker A:

Like, as he's like.

Speaker A:

They're showing him like being cut up by hellhounds and like, you Shook me all night long is playing.

Speaker A:

It's a lot like, it's a lot less stressful.

Speaker B:

It's not nearly as upsetting.

Speaker B:

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker B:

So we open with a super tight close up of Dean's eyes with flashes of kind of a red light, kind of a strobey flash effect with him looking around and looking quite distressed.

Speaker B:

And then one of on my list of fears, like actual fears, like, I know I get like real wussy about things.

Speaker B:

He likes Zippo and he is in a fucking coffin.

Speaker A:

Yeah, but he's alive and he's in a coffin and fuck it, Diana.

Speaker A:

The season four is going to be things crazy.

Speaker A:

We're going to be lore right now.

Speaker B:

Whoa, whoa.

Speaker A:

I'm going to do Laura at the beginning of the fucking episode.

Speaker A:

Why not?

Speaker B:

All right,.

Speaker A:

So we are going to talk about Alice Blunden.

Speaker A:

All right, so Alice Blunden is probably going to reinforce this fear that you have because she is a woman who is buried alive twice.

Speaker A:

What?

Speaker A:

Yes, twice.

Speaker A:

So we're going to travel back in time, I guess, whatever are the future.

Speaker A:

ng back to England in July of:

Speaker A:

And most of this is from a history of ancient town and manor of Basingstoke by FJ.

Speaker A:

dude Bagent nje Millard from:

Speaker A:

o this is an account from the:

Speaker A:

And a couple have a couple other sources peppered in here, but that's mainly where it's from.

Speaker A:

And I also want to do.

Speaker A:

Because this is going to be a direct quote, I don't think I'm going to do a British voice for this because it would be Ridiculous.

Speaker A:

But it may just come out naturally.

Speaker A:

All right, so we're going to talk about Mrs. Blendin.

Speaker A:

All right, so at Basic Stoke, a place sufficiently known by reason of battle as Basing House in the county of Southampton.

Speaker A:

Okay, so now we know.

Speaker A:

We were in Southampton.

Speaker A:

All right, cool.

Speaker A:

That's England.

Speaker A:

So there lives one Mr. Blunden, a man of considerable repute in that town, being one that drives a great trade in malt, etc.

Speaker A:

His wife was a woman who I shall not attempt to characterize because she was utterly a stranger to me.

Speaker A:

Only thus far may have ventured to describe her persons, that she was gross fat woman.

Speaker A:

And had accustomed herself many times to drink brandy.

Speaker A:

So basically, this dude is calling Alice Blendin a big fat drunk.

Speaker A:

Which is rude.

Speaker A:

Fucking rude.

Speaker A:

You know, her husband's a malt maker.

Speaker A:

Like, I don't know if that's malt liquor or, like the malt vinegar that goes on fish and chips.

Speaker B:

Oh, that stuff's all.

Speaker B:

That's delicious.

Speaker B:

So, I mean, I'm good with any of it.

Speaker A:

And, you know, what else are you gonna do?

Speaker A:

Fuck it, man.

Speaker A:

She had money.

Speaker A:

Like, they're well off.

Speaker A:

Like, yeah, yeah, get some brandy, girl.

Speaker A:

So one night, Alice did not feel.

Speaker A:

And she sent her maid to go get her some poppy water, which I'm guessing is just a fucking morphine or opium water.

Speaker A:

And she.

Speaker A:

She drank a lot of it.

Speaker A:

Like, a lot.

Speaker A:

And she fell into a really, really deep sleep.

Speaker A:

Such a deep sleep that everyone's like, damn, she did.

Speaker A:

So the apothecary comes and he is like, yep, she did.

Speaker A:

So they did her laying out, and her husband was sent for, but he was out of town and he had to go to London.

Speaker A:

And he was.

Speaker A:

We just bury her.

Speaker A:

And we get back the following Saturday, and it was Tuesday, so he leaves.

Speaker A:

Or some stories he's out of.

Speaker A:

Some.

Speaker A:

Some accounts he was out of town.

Speaker A:

And this one, he was there and then left.

Speaker A:

Like, either way, it's fucked up.

Speaker A:

Like, what the fuck do you have to do in London?

Speaker A:

She did.

Speaker B:

We'll take care of when I get back.

Speaker A:

It's fine.

Speaker A:

Whatever.

Speaker A:

Like, I have this trip planned.

Speaker A:

Like, I have tickets to go see.

Speaker A:

What.

Speaker A:

Like, is this Shakespeare?

Speaker A:

Like a:

Speaker A:

Like, there's this guy named Will, and he's playing at the Globe, and I really.

Speaker A:

These tickets are really hard to get.

Speaker A:

So he leaves.

Speaker A:

And her family was like, you know, it's July, it's really hot, and she's kind of fat, and she kind of is decomposing pretty fast.

Speaker A:

So maybe like, let's just.

Speaker A:

Let's just go ahead and bury her now.

Speaker A:

Like, he'll be fine with this.

Speaker A:

He's gone.

Speaker A:

Whatever.

Speaker A:

We're just gonna do this.

Speaker B:

And they're like, well, we don't like her anyways.

Speaker A:

You like her anyways, so let's just bury her.

Speaker A:

And they're like, whoa.

Speaker A:

Well, we don't have time to get a coffin custom made, so we're just going to use this one.

Speaker A:

Crap.

Speaker A:

It doesn't fit her.

Speaker A:

Like, it's a little short for her.

Speaker A:

And she's like, I said she was a big woman.

Speaker A:

So we're just going to use these sticks and we're just going to shove her in there.

Speaker A:

So they shove her into this coffin and like, so they can nail it shut.

Speaker A:

So he's pretty much picturing like a bunch of people, like, sitting on the lid of this coffin.

Speaker B:

This bitch has been asleep for, like, days and is so unconscious.

Speaker B:

Doesn't feel people shoving her in a box.

Speaker A:

I don't think it was days.

Speaker A:

I think she was like a day out for like a day, like, you know.

Speaker A:

And yeah, she just, she got up, she got really high and she passed out.

Speaker A:

So anyway, so.

Speaker A:

But she's not even waking up as they're like, you know, trying to do that.

Speaker A:

So they take her into the church and they put her on these stools.

Speaker A:

And as they're doing this, like, one of the guys in the church is like, man, that coffin just moved.

Speaker A:

And they're like, no, no, no.

Speaker A:

Like, it's just really heavy.

Speaker A:

And these stools, like, aren't great.

Speaker A:

It's fine.

Speaker A:

So they, you know, they end up burying her.

Speaker A:

And so that was on Wednesday, I guess.

Speaker B:

Oh, no.

Speaker A:

Going by timeline, ish.

Speaker A:

I think it was like, Wednesday.

Speaker A:

So on Friday, she was.

Speaker A:

The churchyard was right by a school.

Speaker A:

And these kids are playing by and playing in the cemetery like you do.

Speaker A:

Hey, kids, I'm here for you.

Speaker A:

I would also have been playing in there.

Speaker A:

And they're all say, take me out of my grave.

Speaker B:

Oh, no.

Speaker A:

Oh, no.

Speaker A:

And then they also heard someone screaming.

Speaker A:

And they're like, the.

Speaker A:

And of course, like, they ran off because they're like, we're in a fucking cemetery.

Speaker A:

And I'm hearing, take me out of my grave.

Speaker A:

So they go, they go, they go back to school and the schoolmaster is like, you boys are full of lies.

Speaker A:

Like, there's no way this is happening.

Speaker A:

And so they're like, okay.

Speaker A:

And then they go back and they're like, like, no, no, she's still here.

Speaker A:

And so they go back to the town and they're like, just basically telling everybody, like, there's somewhat alive, like, in the cemetery.

Speaker A:

And so the schoolmaster finally comes around and he is like, oh, I hear this too.

Speaker A:

So they're like, they went and consulted with the ministers and the church for him, and finally they were able to dig up the crates.

Speaker A:

So they bring her up and like, she is like, her body is really swollen and she's like beaten up to hell, likely from trying to get out of the coffin.

Speaker B:

And they're like using sticks to shove her ass in there.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

So she's lying there and they're like, I don't know.

Speaker A:

They call for a doctor, and their doctor, like, Hemsey has like the mirror test, right?

Speaker A:

He's like, well, so maybe she.

Speaker A:

Yeah, she was clearly alive before, but she dead now.

Speaker A:

So they put her back in the coffin and they bury her again.

Speaker A:

No, wait, wait, wait, wait.

Speaker A:

Hold on, hold on.

Speaker A:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, they did.

Speaker A:

They did.

Speaker A:

They buried her again and they put somebody in charge of there to watch.

Speaker B:

Her overnight on the graveyard shift.

Speaker A:

Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait.

Speaker A:

Okay, no, I fucked up.

Speaker A:

Okay, so this is why it's confusing.

Speaker A:

You bury somebody multiple times.

Speaker A:

It's really confusing.

Speaker A:

So she's lying there at the grave, and they're like, hey, guard Bob.

Speaker A:

Like, you watch her.

Speaker A:

And so.

Speaker A:

But then it started raining, so he left.

Speaker A:

And so they come back in the morning and she's just basically lying there in her coffin.

Speaker A:

And they're like, yeah, she's really dead, I guess, you know?

Speaker A:

And then they basically, like, uncovered.

Speaker A:

Okay, she was buried.

Speaker A:

Okay, I was wrong.

Speaker A:

So in the morning, they uncover the grave again, and they found that she had torn off her sheet and scratched herself.

Speaker A:

And her mouth was beaten up too.

Speaker A:

And the fish and the musician was like, no, no, she's a little dead now.

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker A:

So then they buried her again.

Speaker A:

So this time, like, she's just dead.

Speaker A:

But yeah, she was like, alive.

Speaker A:

Then they're like, no, she said they put her in the grave and then, like, she was just like.

Speaker A:

Like woke up again in her coffin.

Speaker B:

Oh, God.

Speaker A:

And then died again or pass out again.

Speaker A:

So they.

Speaker A:

There was a court case that was brought.

Speaker A:

Brought forward probably by her husband.

Speaker A:

He was like, what the did you guys do?

Speaker B:

I told you not to bury her ass is what he's saying.

Speaker B:

Yeah, he's like, I know she does this.

Speaker B:

My baby likes to get high.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

And so they were.

Speaker A:

They could have been found guilty of murder.

Speaker A:

But the doctor basically said, you know, look, you know, I did the original test.

Speaker A:

That mirror test has ever failed.

Speaker A:

Like, it was just a really pissed off.

Speaker A:

Like it was a fucked up thing.

Speaker A:

So the town got a fine.

Speaker A:

alive in the cemetery in July:

Speaker A:

Parliament find the town for his negligence.

Speaker B:

Wow, that's crazy.

Speaker A:

Alice Blender New Poor, poor drunk.

Speaker A:

And I get it.

Speaker A:

Like, who among us has not drank a bunch of morphine and passed out for a couple of days?

Speaker A:

Oh.

Speaker B:

Oh, gosh.

Speaker B:

So I wish I had.

Speaker B:

No, I'm just kidding.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

So one other quick thing.

Speaker A:

Just because we can get all this out of the way, Liz is talking, talking, talking to like, shut the fuck up, Liz.

Speaker A:

So a little fun lore about not like a supernatural lore.

Speaker A:

Not.

Speaker B:

Yeah,.

Speaker A:

Not Liz's lore.

Speaker A:

So.

Speaker A:

So while he's in there in the box, Jensen said I didn't enjoy doing it.

Speaker A:

That scene where I climb out of the ground, I was actually in a wooden box in a big hole with a pipe coming into it for air.

Speaker A:

I had to climb down into the box, shut for the.

Speaker A:

Shut the lid and wait for them to put sod all over it and cover it.

Speaker A:

It was July.

Speaker A:

So much like Mrs. Blendin, I was sweating and I had to crawl up through the dirt.

Speaker A:

All this dirt was covering my face and it was just gross.

Speaker A:

For the shots just before that where I wake up inside the coffin and I try to yell and I crack the wood and all this dirt dumps down on me.

Speaker A:

Somebody came up the idea of using a pile of Oreo cookie crumbs for the dirt.

Speaker A:

Like the stuff he used to make crust for cheesecake.

Speaker A:

I forgot.

Speaker B:

I forgot like a dirt cake.

Speaker B:

Like, dirt cake.

Speaker A:

A little dirt cake, right.

Speaker A:

He said, I forgot my earplugs.

Speaker A:

So I was digging Oreos out of my ear ears for a week.

Speaker B:

I don't feel bad about that.

Speaker B:

Sorry, I don't.

Speaker A:

Well, I feel bad about the other stuff, but.

Speaker B:

Yeah, yeah, but the Oreos, I don't feel bad.

Speaker B:

I'm like, yeah, no, it's fine.

Speaker A:

That sounds delicious.

Speaker A:

It'll be like, surprise Oreo.

Speaker A:

Just like.

Speaker A:

It's like when you take your bra,.

Speaker B:

It's like you use a Q tip and you get a little snack.

Speaker A:

It's like a fun dip for your ears.

Speaker A:

There's also, like, when you take your bra off, like, after you get home from dinner and like, sue just falls out.

Speaker A:

And it's just like, oh, I have had Snacks that were just, like, hiding in there.

Speaker A:

Like, oh, look, here's a tortilla chip.

Speaker A:

Let me go find some guac.

Speaker B:

Yeah, it was also, I found the scene very Kill Bill too.

Speaker A:

So it's very Kill Bill.

Speaker B:

It's a trope too.

Speaker A:

I mean, it's used.

Speaker B:

It is.

Speaker B:

I mean, I'm not saying it's like the only thing like that.

Speaker B:

It's only ever been seen.

Speaker B:

But I think one of the higher profile ones would be Kill Bill.

Speaker A:

Which is funny because we had.

Speaker A:

We had that other reference to it that the song had.

Speaker A:

Oh, wakey wakey eggs and bakey O.

Speaker A:

There was a wiki wiki eggs and baking, which is from Kill Bill in like, what was it, like, two episodes ago?

Speaker A:

Or like an episode?

Speaker A:

Maybe last.

Speaker A:

Last episode.

Speaker A:

And then this happened.

Speaker B:

Whoa.

Speaker A:

We just broke something.

Speaker A:

Look at that.

Speaker B:

Look at that.

Speaker B:

All right, well, yeah, so I do.

Speaker B:

So we get.

Speaker B:

Dean wakes up, has a Zippo, is beaten, trying to get out of the.

Speaker B:

Out of the coffin.

Speaker B:

And like, the being buried alive in a coffin, like, that is like.

Speaker B:

I'm not like, super claustrophobic, but I'm like, that kind of claustrophobic.

Speaker B:

Fuck yeah, I am.

Speaker A:

Whatever that is.

Speaker A:

That is awful.

Speaker A:

No, no one wants to do that.

Speaker A:

And technically, you can't really.

Speaker A:

If you were actually buried six feet under, you can't.

Speaker A:

You can't climb out.

Speaker A:

You would.

Speaker A:

You would suffocate from the.

Speaker B:

Right.

Speaker B:

Because by the time you would, like.

Speaker B:

Cause the weight of the dirt would fall in so quickly that you would suffocate and not be able to get air to climb out.

Speaker B:

Right?

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Unless you're like Buffy.

Speaker A:

Like, Buffy could get out because she can p. Really fast and be like.

Speaker A:

But Dean's just like a fucking.

Speaker A:

Like Dean.

Speaker B:

So I wonder if he wasn't buried very deep, though.

Speaker A:

Didn't like, that is also fair.

Speaker A:

Like, you know, if it was just like, planned.

Speaker B:

If Sam intentionally already said he was gonna be buried instead of burned and salted, which we get to later.

Speaker B:

It may have also not been a very deep grave, but either.

Speaker B:

So he gets out.

Speaker A:

And also Sam just, like, is like.

Speaker A:

Doesn't have his grave digging buddy.

Speaker A:

So, like, he has.

Speaker B:

He had to do it.

Speaker A:

He's just like.

Speaker A:

I'm kind of like, man, I gotta dig this grave by myself, man.

Speaker A:

Like, this one foot.

Speaker A:

It's fine, man.

Speaker A:

We're just gonna cover you as a man.

Speaker A:

Leaves and twigs.

Speaker B:

So, yeah, I was very upset.

Speaker B:

I was like, this is terrifying.

Speaker B:

But when he does get out, he crawls out of the ground and there's this feet.

Speaker B:

He's in the middle of a field and there's a wooden cross marking his grave site.

Speaker B:

He looks around.

Speaker B:

All the trees have been flattened outwards.

Speaker B:

And as they zoom out.

Speaker B:

That shot is fucking impressive.

Speaker B:

It's a really cool shot.

Speaker B:

You got the reflect or the reflection, the shadow of the cross on the ground.

Speaker B:

Him standing there in like this perfect circle of trees that are all flat.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Which is also a reference to.

Speaker B:

Fuck.

Speaker A:

Like I know.

Speaker A:

It's a reference to an X Files episode like that Kim Manners directed.

Speaker A:

Oh, I found it now.

Speaker A:

Yeah, there's the.

Speaker A:

It's a massive.

Speaker A:

It's an actual thing that happened.

Speaker A:

by a meteorite in Siberia in:

Speaker A:

And so Kim Manners directed an episode of X Files that referenced the same thing.

Speaker A:

So I thought that was cool.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

So we've got good old Dean walking down this abandoned ish road in like countryside and finds a gas station.

Speaker B:

And it's.

Speaker B:

So here's my weird comments.

Speaker B:

The gas station is locked, appears to be closed, possibly abandoned, but obviously not because they have power.

Speaker B:

I don't know if it's just closed.

Speaker A:

I don't think it's abandoned.

Speaker A:

I think it's just closed because that was a pretty well stopped like, like convenience store.

Speaker A:

And what's also really nice for like, because I know what that convenience store look like.

Speaker A:

It would look really good.

Speaker A:

I've been that convenience store and it does not look that nice.

Speaker B:

No.

Speaker B:

So but anyway, he's able to get some water and find the newspaper and says that it's September 18th.

Speaker B:

I guess that actually to have a current newspaper that have to be just closed and not abandoned, but the Pontiac Daily Gazette is there a copy of that saying it's September 18th.

Speaker B:

And anyway, so he takes a point to look at that for the date, which would have been four months after he died.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker B:

So he, you know, cleans up, grabs a bunch of supplies, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Speaker B:

But he notices that his scars from the Hellhound attacks are completely gone.

Speaker A:

And how does he notice it?

Speaker A:

By giving us an ab shot.

Speaker A:

He's just like, boom, bitches, check out my six packs back.

Speaker A:

Oh.

Speaker B:

But what does he discover?

Speaker A:

Maybe that's why they had such a high like viewer content in this one was.

Speaker A:

Maybe that was in the promo.

Speaker A:

And they're just like, boom, check this out.

Speaker A:

And all the girls are like, yes, please.

Speaker B:

Nabs did it.

Speaker B:

And but.

Speaker B:

So all those scars are gone, but he has a new mark on him.

Speaker B:

And it's like this terrible.

Speaker B:

It looks very uncomfortable.

Speaker B:

Burn handprint on his shoulder or on his upper arm.

Speaker A:

It looks like those really terrible brands that people, like, got in the 90s.

Speaker A:

Oh, like if things came back in the 90s, don't bring that back.

Speaker A:

That was.

Speaker A:

That was not good.

Speaker A:

That is something that I'd probably see on the botch that I'm binge watching right now.

Speaker A:

But yeah, so he's got this wicked handprints star.

Speaker A:

And so then he finds some food and some porn.

Speaker B:

Yeah, of course they have a copy of Busty Asian Beauties.

Speaker B:

That's his favorite favorite.

Speaker B:

So he goes to get some cash because at this point he's like, fuck it, I need to get out of here.

Speaker B:

And TV pops on.

Speaker B:

It's just straight static as he turns it off.

Speaker B:

Because that's creepy, because we've discussed that we don't like random appliances turning on around us.

Speaker B:

Then the radio comes on and it's playing like some saddled country music.

Speaker B:

And then the TV comes on too, again.

Speaker B:

And he's like this.

Speaker B:

So he grabs salt and start salting the place up because that's what he knew.

Speaker B:

Weird shit's happening.

Speaker B:

Grab the salt.

Speaker B:

And then there's this crazy.

Speaker B:

I don't know how else to describe this sound.

Speaker B:

I described it as feedback.

Speaker B:

It sounds like.

Speaker A:

So it's basically they did a tone that was in a mid register that you would get, and then they did like, like other things, like on top of it that would make it like it actually vibrate.

Speaker A:

So it is really uncomfortable.

Speaker A:

Like just forever.

Speaker A:

Like, even for us as viewers.

Speaker B:

I don't like watching it reminded me of bad feedback.

Speaker B:

But.

Speaker A:

Yeah, no, there's definitely bad feedback for sure.

Speaker B:

And so all the windows pop up and pop out and there's glass everywhere.

Speaker B:

And then it just.

Speaker B:

Yes.

Speaker A:

And so fun.

Speaker A:

Also fun fact.

Speaker A:

So, Kim, Manners, like to make things realistic.

Speaker A:

And on a panel, Jensen said that that was real glass and that his stunt double got completely blasted with it.

Speaker A:

And, like, he was all bloody.

Speaker A:

And then he.

Speaker A:

Jensen said that he had to fall into the glass.

Speaker A:

And so he was also, like, covered in like.

Speaker A:

Like actual cuts from.

Speaker B:

From glass.

Speaker A:

Nice.

Speaker A:

Right?

Speaker B:

So he decides to go to the pay phone outside now and try to call Sam, but that phone number is not in service.

Speaker B:

So he tried.

Speaker B:

So he calls Bobby and it's kind of sad because Bobby doesn't believe it's him.

Speaker B:

And then.

Speaker B:

But he calls back and Bobby says he, like, gets mad at him and it's like it's not you.

Speaker A:

And I'll kill you, idiot.

Speaker B:

I'll kill you.

Speaker B:

So there we go.

Speaker B:

So he Hotwires a:

Speaker A:

I was like.

Speaker A:

I was just.

Speaker A:

I was just guessing because I was like, diane is gonna look this up.

Speaker A:

I'm like, is that a Galaxy?

Speaker A:

Like, what the.

Speaker A:

Is that.

Speaker A:

No.

Speaker B:

Nope.

Speaker B:

1962 Mercury Monterey.

Speaker A:

How the is that car working?

Speaker B:

I mean, it was in pretty good condition inside.

Speaker B:

I mean, but like the.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Exterior, it looked like somebody had maintained it.

Speaker B:

But that is not the type of car usually is left sitting outside a closed gas station just saying.

Speaker A:

Unless it's like that mechanic type, you know, like the ones with the cars are always sitting there.

Speaker B:

Those cars never.

Speaker A:

Those car work.

Speaker A:

And I think that's maybe why I was surprised that the car worked, because I'm like, oh, there's a car outside a gas station.

Speaker A:

Easily fixed.

Speaker B:

Anyways, so he drives to Bobby's, goes, what else are you going to do?

Speaker B:

And so Bobby tries to stab him like you do.

Speaker B:

Duh.

Speaker B:

And a fight scene breaks out.

Speaker B:

Duh.

Speaker B:

And so Dean tries to prove himself.

Speaker B:

Bobby pretends like he believes him and still attacks him again.

Speaker B:

Duh.

Speaker B:

But he basically is like.

Speaker B:

It's saying, like, I'm not a shapeshifter or a revenant.

Speaker B:

So.

Speaker B:

So he cuts himself with a silver knife to prove that.

Speaker B:

Which looks uncomfortable.

Speaker A:

It does.

Speaker A:

He went very far with that.

Speaker B:

That was an interesting choice.

Speaker B:

And so Bobby goes to hug him and they have like a sweet, poignant moment.

Speaker B:

And then Bobby throws holy water in his face, which is hilarious.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

And I think they did, like, even with the Sam one too.

Speaker A:

Like, this is like a serious moment.

Speaker A:

But it was just cut with such, like, funny things.

Speaker A:

Like, just the timing on that was so good.

Speaker A:

It was such a great timing.

Speaker B:

Great timing.

Speaker B:

Timing.

Speaker B:

So they both agree that basically it does not.

Speaker B:

This doesn't make any sense.

Speaker B:

And like, even if he was brought back in whatever way, his body has been laying in the ground for four months, so he should be pretty ripe or rotten or gone or whatever.

Speaker B:

I don't.

Speaker B:

I'm not an expert on human decomposition, but I know four months is long enough that he wouldn't look.

Speaker B:

Be looking as fresh as he do.

Speaker A:

That's.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Yet we don't need to go into the.

Speaker A:

We've gone through the DCOM stages on this show before, but yeah, he'd be gross.

Speaker B:

He'd be gross as he says he should look like a Thriller video reject.

Speaker B:

But, you know, so Bobby kind of fills in Dean that Sam went off on his own.

Speaker B:

Dean's pretty annoyed about this shit and that, but Bobby's like, look, I wanted assault and burn you and Sam's insist on burying you, but because you need your body.

Speaker B:

So it's kind of like.

Speaker B:

Well, guess he good he did that.

Speaker B:

But still kind of weird.

Speaker B:

So Dean's convinced that Sam did some real bad mojo because.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Bad, bad mojo, Tam.

Speaker A:

Or like a demon just yanked me out or rode me out and I'm just like,.

Speaker B:

Gross.

Speaker B:

So gross.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

So.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

And so he's convinced Sam made a deal.

Speaker B:

That's the big summary here.

Speaker B:

He thinks the Sam got some fucked up demon magic going on to save his ass out of hell and made a deal.

Speaker B:

Right?

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Yep.

Speaker B:

So Dean goes and, you know, sneaks around with the cell.

Speaker B:

Cell phone company to get Sam's GPS tracking on his phone.

Speaker B:

And kind of notice is that looks like Bobby had been drinking a lot since he died.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

No.

Speaker A:

Bobby has been hitting the hooch because it's been hard and he's been drinking like.

Speaker A:

And they all do this like.

Speaker A:

Guys, man, like, how are your stomachs?

Speaker A:

Just that pieces of grossness.

Speaker A:

Like, aren't you just like.

Speaker A:

Like you haven't taken a solid poop in a very long time?

Speaker A:

Bobby, you're just.

Speaker A:

You're just Spartan.

Speaker A:

Like, I'm sorry it's gross, but you can't drink that much whiskey and be okay.

Speaker A:

Trust me, I come from a long line of alcoholics.

Speaker A:

It's not fine.

Speaker A:

All right.

Speaker A:

And so Dean basically has a cell phone company.

Speaker A:

Look.

Speaker A:

Look for Sam's phone.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

So they know they need to go to Pontiac, Illinois.

Speaker B:

And they go.

Speaker B:

They go to the hotel room that they figure this out, which everybody.

Speaker B:

This hotel's pretty fucking cute.

Speaker B:

I'm just saying.

Speaker A:

Oh, we're gonna get.

Speaker A:

Yeah, we get into it later.

Speaker A:

So I've got.

Speaker A:

I've got a whole things in this room.

Speaker B:

But so in A chick answers the.

Speaker A:

Door and she's in her underwear.

Speaker A:

And who is it?

Speaker A:

Who is.

Speaker A:

Who is this lovely actress?

Speaker B:

Could.

Speaker B:

Could this possibly be Genevieve Cortese at.

Speaker A:

The time, AKA Genevieve Padalecki.

Speaker A:

So this is where we first meet.

Speaker A:

We don't know who she's playing.

Speaker A:

We just.

Speaker A:

We've met young Genevieve.

Speaker B:

Christy.

Speaker A:

And Christy.

Speaker A:

Which is really funny if you think back to the Foilers and how it was a statement.

Speaker A:

Where was a small town waitress named Christie who got romantically involved with Sam?

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

So.

Speaker A:

But funny enough.

Speaker A:

So Genevieve was.

Speaker A:

This is again from the Supernatural companion book.

Speaker A:

She shares a story that she had so she said, jared and I were talking about Jim, AKA Jim Beaver, Bobby, the other day.

Speaker A:

And I said I hadn't seen him a long time.

Speaker A:

And Jared was like, yeah, I think the last time you saw him, you were in your underwear.

Speaker A:

Which is the most bizarre thing to say.

Speaker A:

I wasn't even supposed to be in my underwear for the scene.

Speaker A:

They changed it that morning.

Speaker A:

That was my first episode.

Speaker A:

So it was really awesome meeting everyone dressed like that.

Speaker A:

Her attire for the scene was scripted as a flimsy, short lingerie, like, robe.

Speaker A:

And so a chance.

Speaker A:

They just said, you know, she would have felt as exposed.

Speaker A:

So the first time, like, she meets Shem Beaver is in her underwear.

Speaker A:

Oh, that's great.

Speaker A:

And she looks adorable at her.

Speaker B:

Yeah, it's just like, shorts and a tank top looking cute.

Speaker A:

That's a perfect, like, girl.

Speaker A:

Sexy sleeping outfit, I think, these days.

Speaker A:

So.

Speaker B:

But she thinks they're pizza delivery guys and talks shit to him.

Speaker B:

But then they figure.

Speaker B:

But then finally Sam sees.

Speaker B:

And Sam sees who's at the door and of course wants to try to attack Dean because duh.

Speaker B:

But Bobby stops him and is like, like, no, this isn't.

Speaker B:

It's fine.

Speaker B:

I already did.

Speaker B:

We already.

Speaker B:

We already went through this.

Speaker A:

We already did this.

Speaker B:

We did this.

Speaker A:

We're gonna do that anyways.

Speaker B:

And Dean's pissed.

Speaker B:

He's like, what?

Speaker B:

Like, you didn't do this?

Speaker B:

Because he's so convinced that this is Sam's doing.

Speaker B:

So there's a bunch of.

Speaker B:

There's a big hug and tearing up.

Speaker B:

And Christy goes, so, are you two, like, together?

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

And so she leaves.

Speaker A:

And this is where we really get to see this room.

Speaker A:

And this room is fucking epic.

Speaker A:

But there's tiger print wallpaper, which I'm so into right now.

Speaker A:

And there's even, like, a black velvet, like, tiger painting up there, which I need.

Speaker A:

Like, I'm pretty sure I can probably get drunk after all this wine and order it off on ebay later.

Speaker A:

But so remind me, like, next time when I come back in two weeks.

Speaker A:

And I'm like, why is there a fucking black velvet tiger, like, waiting at my door?

Speaker A:

You can.

Speaker A:

You can point to this.

Speaker B:

Moment noted.

Speaker B:

So.

Speaker B:

So Dean.

Speaker B:

Dean and Sam are talking about, like.

Speaker B:

Like, Dean keeps insisting, like, what did this cost his and Sam?

Speaker B:

You know?

Speaker B:

And, like, Sam's insisting that he wanted to make a deal and would have done anything to save Dean, but no one would make a fucking deal with him, which is pretty crazy.

Speaker B:

So he was really upset that he could not stop Dean from suffering in hell.

Speaker B:

But.

Speaker B:

Yeah, so Dean's just really, like, confused about what got him out.

Speaker B:

Then what dragged him out of hell if Sam wasn't involved in the whole process?

Speaker A:

And I have a note here.

Speaker A:

It was like, but if not Sam, what pulled him out?

Speaker A:

And then I have pulled out.

Speaker B:

So Sam's like, I gave up on trying to save you and just went after fucking Lilith, because why not?

Speaker B:

So.

Speaker B:

And I just, like, you know, and.

Speaker B:

But he.

Speaker B:

Then he apologizes for not keeping in touch with Bunny Bobby.

Speaker B:

So, yeah, Sam's in Pontiac, basically following some demons to try to figure out what's going out, what's going on with Lilith.

Speaker B:

That's really all that.

Speaker B:

That he's done recently.

Speaker A:

So pretty much the day Dean popped up, Sam was like, these demons just, like, took off to Tennessee.

Speaker A:

And Sam was like.

Speaker A:

Like, I'm gonna follow him.

Speaker A:

This seems like.

Speaker A:

And so what we don't know yet is that he didn't follow him alone.

Speaker A:

But we didn't know that yet.

Speaker A:

All right, so Bobby's like, I know.

Speaker A:

Psychic.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

And Dean.

Speaker B:

This is where we also find out that Dean has no real recollection of anything from the time he remembers the hellhounds.

Speaker B:

And then he remembers.

Speaker A:

That's what he says.

Speaker B:

Well, that's what he's telling us.

Speaker B:

He remembers the hellhounds.

Speaker B:

And he remembers then waking up in the coffin.

Speaker B:

But then you see him in the mirror, washing his face, and he's having those red FL flashes again.

Speaker A:

And they're.

Speaker A:

They're not pretty.

Speaker A:

They're not also at this point.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Sam gives demon.

Speaker A:

Demon gives Dean back his amulet.

Speaker B:

Yes.

Speaker A:

Which is very sweet.

Speaker A:

It's a very sweet moment.

Speaker A:

All right, so, yeah, we've got.

Speaker A:

Dean is apparently lying about.

Speaker A:

Shocking.

Speaker A:

I know.

Speaker A:

Like, one of them's gonna hide something from the other.

Speaker A:

They have never done this.

Speaker A:

But you know what?

Speaker A:

We're gonna go find a site psychic.

Speaker A:

Right?

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

I found a statement, though.

Speaker B:

So the three of them are going to their cars to go meet the statement.

Speaker B:

Go meet the psychic.

Speaker B:

And Dean says, I almost forgot about baby.

Speaker B:

That would not forget about baby.

Speaker B:

That is a lie.

Speaker B:

He would not forget about baby.

Speaker B:

That upset me.

Speaker B:

But anyways.

Speaker B:

And then he's really pissed about the ipod, which I think is silly.

Speaker A:

Well, he just put in a jack.

Speaker A:

He didn't put in, like, a new stereotype.

Speaker B:

I will say he put in a stupid fucking dock that looks hideous hanging from there.

Speaker B:

It was not just a jack.

Speaker A:

Yeah, but it's like, that's.

Speaker A:

You can just throw the.

Speaker A:

That's just a.

Speaker A:

What's the word?

Speaker A:

For it.

Speaker B:

If the dock unclips easily, I would.

Speaker A:

Like looked like it clipped it.

Speaker A:

Like it didn't look like it was anything permanent.

Speaker B:

I was concerned about the doc, but I do the jack I'm completely in favor of.

Speaker B:

So there we go.

Speaker B:

So we get a song by vision by Jason Mans comes off and Dean is not amused and turns it off.

Speaker A:

Which is funny in many levels.

Speaker A:

If you are a part of your SP and family and go to a lot of cons.

Speaker A:

Jason Mans has become.

Speaker A:

He's also.

Speaker A:

He's a friend of a friend of everybody on the show.

Speaker A:

But it was a friend of Jason.

Speaker A:

Jason.

Speaker A:

Jason is a friend of Jared and Jensen.

Speaker A:

There's a lot of fucking J's, man.

Speaker A:

That's just like.

Speaker A:

So anyways, he actually was co hosting a lot of the last come we went to because Richard Spades too good.

Speaker B:

To go to cons apparently.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

So while they're driving, Dean asked Sam about how he made it out of the house since after Dean got attacked by the Hellhound.

Speaker B:

Since Lilith was going to kill him.

Speaker B:

And this is where Sam shares that basically she couldn't.

Speaker B:

He was immune somehow and she.

Speaker B:

He just fucking left.

Speaker B:

And that Ruby's dead.

Speaker B:

And Dean asks if Sam's been using his freaky ESP stuff at this point Sam's like, no, because you asked me not to.

Speaker B:

That's basically a dying wish.

Speaker A:

Yeah, stop psychic shaming him, Dean.

Speaker A:

I also know it.

Speaker A:

It's like.

Speaker A:

It's really.

Speaker A:

It's a pretty obvious setup.

Speaker B:

I think it's a obvious.

Speaker B:

I'm like, well obviously he's using the shit out of this.

Speaker B:

Like even I'm like, duh.

Speaker A:

Like why would Dean even think of this?

Speaker A:

I don't know.

Speaker A:

Like it doesn't make sense.

Speaker A:

Like because the psychic power.

Speaker A:

I mean he didn't see Sam use them for like forever.

Speaker A:

Whatever.

Speaker A:

Because I don't care.

Speaker A:

I just want to get on to the next scene.

Speaker A:

All right, so you think it.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Okay, we're done to meet the this bad bitch that I want to hang out with.

Speaker B:

Pamela Barnes, the best damn psychic in the state.

Speaker B:

She hot.

Speaker A:

She hot.

Speaker A:

She's when her.

Speaker A:

The woman who plays her is actually a lesbian.

Speaker A:

Yes, yes, Thunderbird.

Speaker A:

I will be so gay for you.

Speaker A:

But yeah.

Speaker B:

And her name is Thunderbird.

Speaker B:

She used to go by Tracy, but her name is Thunderbird.

Speaker B:

Dinwiddie.

Speaker B:

And that name is rad.

Speaker A:

She's a bad bitch.

Speaker A:

You know what else is rad?

Speaker A:

She's a fucking aerialist.

Speaker B:

So she was in a show about aerialists she was a movie about.

Speaker A:

She was in a movie called Aerialist.

Speaker A:

But before that she started learning trapeze.

Speaker A:

And she does, like, a lot of.

Speaker A:

Like, these days she's not acting anymore, I don't think.

Speaker A:

I think she's concentrating other parts of her life.

Speaker A:

You go, you bad bitch.

Speaker A:

But.

Speaker A:

Because she really likes drumming and shit.

Speaker A:

Whatever.

Speaker A:

But yeah, she's a trapeze artist.

Speaker A:

Like, she does a bunch of.

Speaker A:

I love.

Speaker A:

Obviously I'm trying to be a.

Speaker A:

An aerialist.

Speaker A:

I at least get an aerialist apparatuses.

Speaker A:

I don't know if I'm.

Speaker A:

You know.

Speaker A:

But she's fucking awesome.

Speaker A:

And she opens the door and a fucking Ramones tank top and a pyramid belt.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Yes, bitch.

Speaker A:

Yes.

Speaker B:

Yes, please.

Speaker B:

Thank you.

Speaker B:

I love her.

Speaker A:

And.

Speaker A:

Yeah, and I get it.

Speaker A:

Like, she's been waiting and it was just like this episode.

Speaker A:

Because I didn't think you knew about Pamela because she's not that, like, well known in the.

Speaker A:

The sphere.

Speaker A:

She's known, but she's not as public, I guess, is the word I'm looking for.

Speaker A:

You haven't seen her at a con.

Speaker B:

And no, she's.

Speaker B:

She's.

Speaker B:

She's not as.

Speaker B:

As high profile as some of the.

Speaker A:

High profile.

Speaker A:

That is the word I was looking for.

Speaker A:

But, yeah, before this episode, it was like, you're gonna get to meet my favorite characters.

Speaker A:

And I was hyperventilating like that.

Speaker A:

And Diana's like, slay your old Liz.

Speaker A:

Like, it's fine.

Speaker A:

But now you understand why.

Speaker B:

Because I'm like, oh, no.

Speaker B:

I'm like, she's us.

Speaker B:

Got it.

Speaker B:

Noted.

Speaker B:

So she's hot.

Speaker B:

And she is basically trying to help figure out.

Speaker B:

Help them figure out out what.

Speaker B:

What the fuck is going on and why Dean got out of hell.

Speaker B:

And she said, I like her.

Speaker B:

She uses the term Ouija as.

Speaker B:

As a.

Speaker A:

Can be a verb.

Speaker B:

As a verb.

Speaker A:

Why not?

Speaker B:

She Ouija'd her way through a dozen spirits.

Speaker B:

I'm like, okay, I like you.

Speaker B:

And she's insisting, though.

Speaker B:

They're not gonna summon anything, though she must take a peek.

Speaker B:

Like a crystal ball without the crystal.

Speaker B:

So she crouches down and she definitely has a bad tramp stuff stamp that says Jesse forever.

Speaker A:

Jesse wasn't forever.

Speaker B:

She wasn't forever.

Speaker B:

As she says so.

Speaker B:

And Dean's all ready to get all up on this.

Speaker B:

And Sam tries to call him out.

Speaker B:

And so she invites Sam to join.

Speaker A:

Sam also says, she will eat you alive.

Speaker A:

And he's not wrong, which is why she's a bad bitch.

Speaker A:

Because like this, like, Gene Winchester, I think like, if you've met your mat.

Speaker A:

Yeah, no, she can take you down a few pegs.

Speaker B:

I also like, though, in this scene, instead of Sam, like, God damn it.

Speaker B:

Dean flirting again.

Speaker B:

Like, you know how you always kids.

Speaker B:

Like, he didn't get like that.

Speaker B:

He's all like, she's gonna eat you alive, man.

Speaker B:

Like, oh.

Speaker B:

Like, Sam must.

Speaker B:

Sam looks like he got some, so he's chilling out.

Speaker A:

That's what I was about to say.

Speaker A:

I was like, no, Sam's been getting some, which is why he's no longer like, I wish somebody would touch my penis.

Speaker A:

My girlfriend died at a ceiling.

Speaker B:

You just said, I wish someone would touch my penis.

Speaker B:

My girlfriend died in a ceiling.

Speaker A:

Yes.

Speaker B:

Okay.

Speaker B:

All right, all right.

Speaker B:

So they decided to have a seance, talk to more of the spirits, try to figure out which spirit is the one that helped get Dean out of hell.

Speaker B:

And she grabs Dean's junk.

Speaker B:

And then.

Speaker B:

And then she.

Speaker B:

Dean redirects her to the handprint on his arm, which Sam obviously hadn't shown Sam at this point, because Sam kind of.

Speaker B:

Kind of reacts to this, which is weird.

Speaker B:

Like, I don't know.

Speaker B:

I feel like they're, like,.

Speaker A:

Showering next to each other.

Speaker A:

Like.

Speaker A:

But yeah, I would probably be like, check out this giant handprint on my arm.

Speaker B:

Oh, wait, you didn't help me get out of hell.

Speaker B:

I don't know how I gotta.

Speaker B:

Hell, look at this on my shoulder.

Speaker A:

They're like, look at the.

Speaker A:

That's sticking out of my shirt that I can clearly see, like, this giant, terrible, like, frat boy tactic burn.

Speaker A:

Like, yeah, it's weird.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

So anyways, so she starts invoking some spirit.

Speaker B:

There's a lot of chanting and things start shaking.

Speaker B:

The TV turns on with static again.

Speaker B:

And she says the name Castiel.

Speaker A:

But she says, like, so.

Speaker A:

And she's also this time just evoking, conjuring and commanding.

Speaker A:

And the way, like, she does this, like, it's so fucking hot.

Speaker A:

Like, I just, like, if all witch ceremonies were like this, like, yeah, I would be, like, summoning shit every day.

Speaker A:

Just invoking, conjuring and commanding.

Speaker A:

It's so good.

Speaker A:

So she's also like, no, you don't scare me.

Speaker B:

And she insists that they show their face.

Speaker B:

And Bobby's like, maybe we should stop.

Speaker B:

This is not going well.

Speaker B:

So the candles flare up.

Speaker B:

This is another, like, fear of mine.

Speaker B:

I don't like this.

Speaker B:

Not, like, an actual fear, but it's upsetting.

Speaker B:

And fire shoots out of her fucking eyes and there's blood.

Speaker B:

And she collapses.

Speaker B:

And it all stops and her entire eye sockets are burned out.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

My note for this is, fuck her eyes.

Speaker A:

Fuck.

Speaker A:

So apparently Thunderbird also said, you know, so this is my first day working in Supernatural and I went right into having my eyeballs burnt out.

Speaker A:

The camera had to move through three roaring streams of fire.

Speaker A:

And as it came through, the fire actually bent around the camera towards my eyes.

Speaker A:

And the first take, I was terrified the fire would actually burn my eyes.

Speaker A:

Nice.

Speaker A:

We did it several more times.

Speaker A:

I had to keep screaming.

Speaker A:

So as horse as all as I'll get out, you can hear it in my voice when I say I can't see.

Speaker A:

My voice was three notches lower than normal.

Speaker A:

And if you like when I watch this after reading that, I was like, oh, no.

Speaker A:

Like you can tell.

Speaker A:

Like her voice is like, oh, like I can't see.

Speaker B:

I mean, I just figured I'd be real upset.

Speaker B:

So my voice would be up.

Speaker A:

Yeah, I'd be like, you better be paying me extra.

Speaker A:

Like, I would just be like, we're gonna renegotiate my contract much right now.

Speaker A:

I just like walk out.

Speaker A:

Like, no, no, no, no.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

So this was.

Speaker B:

That was just very upsetting.

Speaker B:

So we cut to Johnny Mac's diner and Sam and Dean are the air.

Speaker B:

Sam talked to Bobby and apparently Pam's out of icu, but she is blind.

Speaker B:

So Dean's like, no, we gotta summon this Castiel motherfucker.

Speaker B:

That's it.

Speaker B:

And Sam's like, no, let's just follow these demons.

Speaker B:

It seems safer right now.

Speaker B:

So then their waitress is delivering Dean's food and just pulls up a chair and sits right the fuck down like she's part of their table.

Speaker B:

Guess what?

Speaker B:

She's a demon.

Speaker B:

Oh my God.

Speaker A:

She's a diamond.

Speaker A:

And so is everybody else.

Speaker B:

Everybody in the diner except for them is demons.

Speaker B:

So she's like, dean, you're lucky.

Speaker A:

What?

Speaker B:

And but what.

Speaker B:

But what makes you so special?

Speaker B:

And he has his smart ass response is that I like to think it's because of my perky nipples.

Speaker B:

Just amusing.

Speaker B:

But also like very like womp womp.

Speaker A:

Okay, Dean, this wamp wampa is really funny because like I said earlier, I've been watching Botched, so I've had a lot of.

Speaker A:

I've seen a lot of things about perky nipples lately.

Speaker A:

And it was just like, oh, the simulation is happening again.

Speaker B:

Oh my God.

Speaker B:

So she says, like, he admits that he doesn't know how he got out.

Speaker B:

And she accuses him of lying, but he's like, no, I'm not.

Speaker B:

Do you know how the fuck I got out.

Speaker B:

Out.

Speaker B:

She's like, no, but I'll drag you back.

Speaker B:

And so there's this whole thing back and forth and that basically she.

Speaker B:

He.

Speaker B:

Dean has read the situation to figure out that the demons are fucking scared too.

Speaker B:

And they don't know how he got out or whatever because it's above their pay grade.

Speaker A:

So they have a staring contest.

Speaker B:

There is.

Speaker B:

And there's some weird comment about showing up on her doorstep with Vaseline and a fire hose.

Speaker A:

That was.

Speaker A:

Do you need me to explain that to you?

Speaker B:

No, I just thought it was a weird, like, add in.

Speaker B:

In this conversation.

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker A:

You know, that's a. Yeah, I mean, I get it.

Speaker B:

I'm just like.

Speaker A:

Well, then he was gonna shove a fire hose up her ass and.

Speaker A:

Yeah, okay.

Speaker B:

I just thought it was like a weird thing at that moment.

Speaker B:

It was just very bizarre.

Speaker A:

This is also very weird.

Speaker A:

But the staring contest is hilarious.

Speaker B:

And then like, it breaks the staring contest by slapping the fuck out of her.

Speaker B:

You're just slapping.

Speaker B:

Slaps her.

Speaker B:

He just left us twice.

Speaker B:

And she doesn't retaliate.

Speaker B:

She does say.

Speaker B:

She does say she's gonna reach down his throat and pull out his lungs.

Speaker B:

So.

Speaker B:

I mean, the heap called her bluff.

Speaker B:

Basically.

Speaker B:

He's like, oh, they're scared.

Speaker B:

They ain't gonna do to me because they don't know what's touched me.

Speaker B:

So that's why he slaps her shin do.

Speaker B:

So he's like, here's some money.

Speaker B:

And they leave.

Speaker A:

Well, I think the second slap was because it was fun.

Speaker A:

But yeah, I mean, slapping people.

Speaker A:

I don't care who it is.

Speaker A:

It's always kind of fun to slap somebody in the face.

Speaker A:

It's been a long time, so I'm gonna slap anybody.

Speaker A:

When's the last time you slap somebody in the face?

Speaker A:

It's been a very long time.

Speaker A:

Yep.

Speaker A:

Anyway, so.

Speaker A:

Yeah, but apparently he did get some pie because he was like, pie?

Speaker A:

That's what he paid her for.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

So Dean and Sam, as they're leaving, Dean points out that he.

Speaker B:

They're both really freaked out because it's super close.

Speaker B:

But also they've realized that the demons are scared of whatever pulled him out of hell.

Speaker B:

So we cut back to the Super Dorbs hotel room room.

Speaker B:

And Dean's passed out.

Speaker B:

And so Sam decides to sneak the out.

Speaker B:

So we know Sam's up to some shady or that he's not shady, but shit that he's definitely keeping from.

Speaker B:

From.

Speaker B:

From Dean.

Speaker B:

So he wakes up with.

Speaker B:

Of course Dean, like, wakes up because the TV and the radio come on again.

Speaker B:

So he grabs the gun, scans the room, and you get the fucking feedback sent.

Speaker B:

And covers his ears and all the glass, including the mirrored ceiling, shatter all over him.

Speaker A:

Yes.

Speaker A:

So we learn this hotel has a mirrored ceiling at this point.

Speaker A:

We also get to see that the bedspread is also leopard print, even though it is a.

Speaker A:

A pull out bed.

Speaker A:

So.

Speaker A:

And also he was sleeping surrounded by books, which is just something like.

Speaker A:

I will say I'm a fan of.

Speaker B:

That does it for you.

Speaker A:

Well, I mean, I also just do that.

Speaker A:

Well, technically I like fall asleep on my couch surrounded by books.

Speaker A:

But anyways.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

So Bobby's gonna rush in.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

So he finds Bobby, rushes in and they're like, okay, we're gonna go try to.

Speaker B:

Let's figure some shit out.

Speaker B:

And so they call Sam because they're like, where is he?

Speaker B:

And he's like, I just got hungry.

Speaker B:

I went to get a burger.

Speaker B:

Because he's a fucking liar.

Speaker B:

And so Dean's gonna lie right back and be like, oh, yeah, we're going for a beer.

Speaker B:

So he's like, all right, we're gonna go.

Speaker B:

They get a phone and Dean's like, yeah, we're go.

Speaker B:

Some of this shit.

Speaker B:

Bobby is not stupid.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

So clearly we have not learned anything from any of the past three seasons.

Speaker A:

And we're just gonna continue to go do our thing and go do our own thing and not tell each other.

Speaker B:

Yeah, that always goes well.

Speaker B:

I like Bobby's comments.

Speaker B:

We could choose life.

Speaker B:

So Sam's at the diner and finds the demon chef is on the floor, blood everywhere, his eyes are gone.

Speaker B:

Then he gets attacked by the female that was the waitress there.

Speaker B:

And they have a big fight, but her eyes are gone too.

Speaker B:

And he asks, he's like, what did you see?

Speaker B:

And she's like, it's the end.

Speaker B:

The end.

Speaker A:

It's the end.

Speaker A:

And.

Speaker A:

And then she's like, go to hell.

Speaker A:

He's like, well, you or something.

Speaker B:

And then.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

And so then he uses fucking crazy ass, like his psychic Jedi mind trick to make.

Speaker A:

I'm just calling it hand magic.

Speaker A:

I'm like gonna high five you to death.

Speaker A:

Like, it's just like.

Speaker B:

It's like a cosmic high five.

Speaker B:

And it makes her puke up the demon cock smoke.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

And then it just kind of like.

Speaker A:

But this does it like, it looks like it's trying to like go up, but then it just goes down.

Speaker B:

And then he checks for the pulse on the body, but it's dead.

Speaker B:

So it's basically he's Figured out how to do, like, a psychic exorcism without the ritual is what it seems like.

Speaker B:

But the demons get forced out.

Speaker B:

But I guess he was trying to check if the human body was still alive and it wasn't.

Speaker A:

Well.

Speaker A:

And, I mean, her eyes are burnt out.

Speaker B:

That body went through some trauma.

Speaker B:

That body went through some traumatic.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

I mean, beyond just having a demon riding her, like, her eyes were burnt out.

Speaker A:

I think it's good.

Speaker A:

Let her go.

Speaker A:

Let her be in peace.

Speaker B:

And then we see our Christy from the beginning walk in.

Speaker A:

Is that Christy?

Speaker B:

It's not.

Speaker B:

Guess who is it?

Speaker B:

It's Ruby.

Speaker A:

It's Ruby and it's Ruby.

Speaker A:

And so we have a new Ruby.

Speaker B:

So Ruby got a new body.

Speaker B:

And so anyways, Sam's like.

Speaker B:

I asked her what's going on.

Speaker B:

She's like, he.

Speaker B:

She knows it's not a demon.

Speaker B:

It's cosmic.

Speaker A:

It's cosmic, man.

Speaker B:

You know, like nothing I've ever seen before.

Speaker A:

Oh, my God.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

So Bobby gets to get a little crazy with spray paint in a silo type or like a.

Speaker B:

It's like a steel building.

Speaker A:

Yeah, it's like.

Speaker A:

It's like kind of like a bunker.

Speaker B:

It's a lot.

Speaker B:

Yeah, it looks like a bunker slash.

Speaker B:

It also just looks like a.

Speaker B:

Like a steel barn building.

Speaker A:

It's a barn dominium.

Speaker A:

And.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

So they had.

Speaker A:

They just started tagging shit.

Speaker A:

They're like, we're gonna tag everything.

Speaker B:

I think.

Speaker B:

I think some.

Speaker B:

I think one of the terms that the kids would say he was getting loose with the paint.

Speaker A:

Is that what the kids today say.

Speaker B:

I don't.

Speaker B:

I don't.

Speaker A:

I don't think anybody has ever said that.

Speaker B:

But certain someone has, because I've heard them say, but.

Speaker A:

Okay, anyway.

Speaker A:

All right, but anyway.

Speaker A:

So the symbols were actually taken from various of like.

Speaker A:

Like, legit.

Speaker A:

The art.

Speaker A:

The art department took it from, like, literal things, but they changed it just in case.

Speaker A:

So, like, everything is kind of real, but it's a little off because they didn't want it.

Speaker A:

They didn't want to invoke anything.

Speaker B:

They didn't want to accidentally summon or.

Speaker B:

Or, like, some shit or.

Speaker A:

I've seen.

Speaker A:

I've seen far too many episodes of television to know you.

Speaker A:

You know, you paint something on the ground out of a book, you better know what it is and demons coming out of it.

Speaker A:

That just.

Speaker A:

This is how the world works.

Speaker B:

Yep.

Speaker B:

So they decided to start their ritual.

Speaker B:

We cut back to Ruby and Sam talking, and basically.

Speaker B:

Yeah, she's fucking.

Speaker B:

Straight up admits.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Fuck.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

I've been keeping things from Dean.

Speaker B:

And so Sam.

Speaker B:

And Sam wants to wait to tell him what they've been doing because it's related to psychic stuff.

Speaker B:

And she's like, well, do I need to fucking step back?

Speaker B:

And he's like, no, I'm not sure.

Speaker B:

I'm just not sure about all this that we're doing.

Speaker B:

But I know I'm saving people, and that's important.

Speaker B:

So this has revealed to us something important about what has been going on while Dean has been in hell and while Sam has not been keeping in touch with Bobby.

Speaker B:

We now know that Sam and Ruby have been running around together, working on Sam's psychic skills and hunting demons.

Speaker A:

Teaching Sam hand magic.

Speaker B:

More ways than one.

Speaker A:

You can do magic with your hands, Sam.

Speaker B:

Oh, gosh.

Speaker B:

So we go back to Dean and Bobby in the barn.

Speaker B:

And the ceiling starts banging around.

Speaker B:

Lights explode.

Speaker B:

The door opens and a man in a trench coat.

Speaker A:

There's a man in a trench coat.

Speaker A:

Who can it be?

Speaker A:

Who can be this man in a trench coat?

Speaker B:

So Dean and Bobby start blasting, because that's what they do.

Speaker B:

They start shooting.

Speaker B:

Shit.

Speaker B:

And so Dean asks who he is and says, I'm the one who gripped you tight and raised you from perdition.

Speaker A:

Yes.

Speaker B:

Yes, he does.

Speaker A:

He says that.

Speaker A:

And then Dean stabs him.

Speaker B:

Stabs him with a demon knife.

Speaker B:

And it doesn't shit.

Speaker A:

And then.

Speaker A:

And then Bobby attacks him.

Speaker A:

And then the strange man in trench coat into unconsciousness because.

Speaker A:

And he passes out.

Speaker B:

So.

Speaker B:

But Bobby.

Speaker B:

But he makes sure that Dean knows that Bobby ain't dead.

Speaker B:

So Dean's like, so what are you?

Speaker B:

And he answers, I'm an angel of the Lord.

Speaker A:

Well, first he says, I'm Castiel.

Speaker A:

And he's like, yeah, I know that.

Speaker B:

He's like, dad, we pieced that together.

Speaker B:

Okay.

Speaker B:

Okay.

Speaker B:

And so.

Speaker B:

But he says, I'm an angel of the Lord.

Speaker B:

Dean says, there's no such thing.

Speaker B:

And Dean.

Speaker B:

And this is something that actually ties back to, like, an ongoing theme a little bit because Cassiel calls out Dean's lack of faith.

Speaker B:

And then he shows shadow of his wings.

Speaker B:

And there's a lot of thunder.

Speaker A:

They're great shadow wings, and they're very pretty.

Speaker A:

And I wish, like, I could go poo poo and then have, like, giant shadow wings, which are much easy.

Speaker A:

Much easier to make and carry around than actual wings.

Speaker B:

Giant shadow wings.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Shadowing seem a lot less.

Speaker B:

But.

Speaker B:

But, like, if you look at, like, in Lucifer, their wings were not like.

Speaker A:

I think this is also.

Speaker A:

I think it's really.

Speaker A:

We start thinking about, hey, so we have.

Speaker A:

This is the beginning, right?

Speaker A:

And we'll.

Speaker A:

We'll have many, many more talks about angels.

Speaker A:

But so then we've got angels.

Speaker A:

Like, this is huge.

Speaker B:

Yeah, it's a big.

Speaker B:

Because the brothers in general haven't necessarily had as much as they against evil.

Speaker B:

They've talked about hell, they've talked about demons.

Speaker B:

They.

Speaker B:

And they've talked about all these other, like, bad.

Speaker B:

But they've never really acknowledged good.

Speaker A:

Well, and they've also really.

Speaker B:

We've no religious faith.

Speaker B:

There's not really any religious faith here.

Speaker A:

And it's been brought up before, kind of like angels.

Speaker A:

They're like, no, that's not a thing.

Speaker A:

That's not real.

Speaker A:

And now we have of.

Speaker B:

We have one.

Speaker A:

This.

Speaker A:

And so.

Speaker A:

But Dean's legit being like, what the fuck?

Speaker A:

If you're like, how are you an angel?

Speaker A:

You just burned out Pamela's eyes.

Speaker A:

Like, why would an angel do that?

Speaker B:

I told her not to look too close.

Speaker B:

And I don't really know my own.

Speaker B:

Like, it's really hard for humans to hear and see me.

Speaker B:

That's why the TD static was real weird.

Speaker B:

When I tried to talk to you.

Speaker A:

Before, that is clearly not Cassiel's voice.

Speaker A:

But okay, so.

Speaker A:

But he's just like, I thought it was interesting, too.

Speaker A:

It's like, I thought you could.

Speaker A:

Right?

Speaker B:

So he's like, yeah, I thought you were different, that you would be able to hear me, basically.

Speaker A:

Which kind of is like, yeah, I pulled you out of hell.

Speaker A:

I thought you would be special.

Speaker B:

But.

Speaker A:

But you're not, though.

Speaker A:

He was like, okay, so you're still like, dean, this is kind of setting up some stuff, right?

Speaker A:

So we're learning things.

Speaker A:

Right?

Speaker A:

So D is and pull from hell.

Speaker A:

He says he doesn't remember it.

Speaker A:

Yeah, but he does.

Speaker A:

Not good.

Speaker A:

But.

Speaker A:

But so far, Dean doesn't have any special powers or anything special.

Speaker B:

He's not been special enough to handle communicating directly with an angel in angel form.

Speaker B:

So the Cassiel is in the body of a human kind of possessed.

Speaker B:

Like a. Yep.

Speaker A:

And this is the thing.

Speaker A:

The first time you really get this term vessel as opposed to just meat suit.

Speaker A:

I prefer meat suit.

Speaker A:

But vessel also works.

Speaker B:

I think vessel in some way makes sense because this person supposedly, like, opened themselves up to it as opposed to being taken against their will.

Speaker B:

Yes.

Speaker A:

And we'll, I think, you know, further down that line.

Speaker A:

We may get some more definitions for it.

Speaker A:

But this is the first time we've heard this used.

Speaker A:

And so.

Speaker A:

But we're just like, you know, this guy, he Wanted it, he asked for it, he prayed for it.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

And I'm like, who the fuck is paying for this?

Speaker A:

And I guess, I mean, like, I.

Speaker B:

Didn't know it was really an option and be like, please let me be possessed by an angel.

Speaker B:

That'd be bad.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

However, and we're not going to go too deep.

Speaker A:

Well, another time.

Speaker A:

We have many more times to talk about what's behind Cassio.

Speaker A:

But I know it's like, I was starting to do some initial research on it.

Speaker A:

A lot of the information regarding this particular angel that is likely based on.

Speaker A:

They're all from, like, the angel sites.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker A:

So there's the people who are like, these.

Speaker A:

The card to use to communicate with your angel.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

So.

Speaker A:

And I guess, like, super, like, religious people, I guess, you know, believing in angels.

Speaker A:

But do they ask to be possessed?

Speaker B:

I just never heard that before.

Speaker B:

I just.

Speaker B:

That's.

Speaker B:

I thought that was odd, I guess.

Speaker A:

But I mean, like, fill me with.

Speaker B:

Your holy spirit or like, use me as your vessel on earth, but that doesn't typically.

Speaker B:

I mean, maybe they're saying that and not really meaning, like, maybe they mean it more figuratively.

Speaker B:

Oh, not so literally.

Speaker B:

But I don't know.

Speaker B:

That's how I take it.

Speaker B:

So Cassiel is like, you don't think you deserve to be saved?

Speaker B:

Is his question to Dean.

Speaker B:

Because Dean's like, why would you pull me out?

Speaker B:

Why would an angel pull me out of hell?

Speaker B:

And then follows up.

Speaker B:

Cassio follows up with.

Speaker B:

God commanded it.

Speaker B:

Because we have work for you and see holy.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Another important thing during that.

Speaker A:

That back and forth is also Cassiel going, you know, not only that you don't have faith is you don't think you could.

Speaker A:

You should have been saved.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker A:

Like, your guilt was so bad that you think this is what you deserve to, like, be in hell.

Speaker B:

Yeah, it's pretty.

Speaker B:

Pretty gnarly.

Speaker A:

That's pretty fucked up, but, yeah, so gnarly.

Speaker A:

Welcome to season four, bitches.

Speaker B:

Right?

Speaker B:

I'm excited for it.

Speaker B:

I'm pretty excited to get some of these characters that I've had an awareness of their existence but don't know much about.

Speaker B:

I don't know.

Speaker B:

I don't know anything about the characters really, but I know that they exist and that they're beloved.

Speaker B:

And I know that I'm gonna get to meet a lot of them this season.

Speaker B:

So I'm pretty fucking stoked about that.

Speaker B:

Already got to meet one, even though I'm mixed feelings right this minute, which I think is understandable from this episode.

Speaker B:

So, yeah.

Speaker B:

I'm a little technically.

Speaker A:

You got to meet three.

Speaker A:

You got to meet Pamela.

Speaker B:

That's true.

Speaker A:

We got to meet a new Ruby.

Speaker A:

We got to meet Genevieve as Ruby, and then we got to meet Misha as Castiel.

Speaker B:

I do have a couple of cast notes just off the top, so, by the way, so we already obviously talked about Thunderbird Genevieve, because that's pretty obviously Pamela Barnes was played by Thunderbird.

Speaker B:

And did.

Speaker B:

We talked about that.

Speaker B:

But in addition to the Aerialist show, she was actually an ongoing character called Regina Gina in Walking Dead.

Speaker B:

And she was in the Notebook, which I've never seen and I'm okay with it, but I thought I'd share that.

Speaker A:

And then I have never watched a Notebook either.

Speaker A:

And I will never.

Speaker A:

I will never.

Speaker A:

But she did come up in a listicle of, like, top 10.

Speaker A:

I don't know if it was same sex or was the top 10 hottest scenes that are written by somebody who was from the community.

Speaker A:

But she had another.

Speaker A:

A movie.

Speaker A:

Like, they described the sex scene of her like, oh, my God, it sounds like it was her and another woman.

Speaker A:

And it sounds like fucking.

Speaker A:

Like, I was like, I'm kind of turned on just reading your description.

Speaker A:

So she's done some good work, miss.

Speaker A:

And I encourage you to go to YouTube and go watch her, like, obstacle training videos.

Speaker A:

Like, she was born in:

Speaker A:

Bitches, like, in shape.

Speaker A:

She's in shape.

Speaker A:

And it's so good.

Speaker A:

So go.

Speaker A:

Go down the Thunderbird rabbit hole.

Speaker A:

It's so good.

Speaker B:

And I don't think I need to go down a rabbit hole about the background of Misha Collins playing Steele.

Speaker B:

Yeah, but.

Speaker B:

But it's a couple of past works.

Speaker B:

I know he's got other things he's doing now, and he's at the cons and everything else, and he's got some series he's doing.

Speaker B:

But in the past, I would note that he was Tony in Girl Interrupted.

Speaker B:

What?

Speaker B:

And he was another show he was on.

Speaker B:

He had a.

Speaker B:

He was a character called Alexis on 24.

Speaker B:

I know it was popular show as well.

Speaker B:

I didn't get into it, but I.

Speaker A:

Know that I'm like, can I get into a mindset to rewatch Girl Interrupted?

Speaker A:

I don't know if I can.

Speaker B:

I mean, I love that movie.

Speaker B:

I watched a lot when I was young, but, like 99, like, emotional, like 90s angsty girls.

Speaker B:

movie repeatedly up until the:

Speaker B:

But if I watch that.

Speaker A:

Would I hate myself from the 90s even more than I hate myself for the 90s.

Speaker B:

I. I think so if I don't want to watch again.

Speaker B:

I thought it was interesting that he was in it because that movie meant so much to me at the time.

Speaker A:

It meant so much to all of us.

Speaker A:

For all the little alternative girls.

Speaker A:

And we had Angelina Jolie.

Speaker A:

We had.

Speaker A:

Oh, God.

Speaker A:

I'm sure there's an entire podcast series of the Girl Interrupted somewhere, but.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Any other cast notes?

Speaker B:

No, those are my biggies.

Speaker B:

I just wanted to hit those real fast.

Speaker B:

I thought they were worth mentioning.

Speaker B:

So we had some great acting in here and some.

Speaker B:

And people.

Speaker B:

We sing again especially.

Speaker B:

I thought that was important.

Speaker A:

Yeah, I'm sure.

Speaker A:

Honestly, I didn't even look at the people who were in the demon.

Speaker A:

The demons from the scene because there was just too, like, there were too many other big entrances.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

So there we go.

Speaker B:

That's what I got.

Speaker A:

Cool.

Speaker A:

Well, I'm glad you enjoyed it.

Speaker A:

I hope everyone else did.

Speaker A:

I am so excited to be in season four.

Speaker B:

I am, too.

Speaker B:

Very exciting.

Speaker A:

Things are just gonna ramp up to here.

Speaker A:

All right.

Speaker A:

We're crazy this year.

Speaker A:

This season.

Speaker A:

Whatever.

Speaker B:

All right.

Speaker A:

Cheers.

Speaker A:

Jerk.

Speaker B:

Cheers.

Speaker A:

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Speaker B:

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Speaker A:

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Speaker A:

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Speaker A:

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Speaker B:

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Speaker B:

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Speaker B:

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Speaker B:

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