Welcome to Retail Reckoning, the podcast from Retail Champion where we explore the real challenges facing our high streets and town centres. In this episode, I’m asking a burning question at the heart of yet another government regeneration scheme: will the new multi-billion pound "Pride In Place" programme transform our towns, or is it just déjà vu with taxpayer money at stake?
Drawing on my own experience with these schemes, I reflect on previous initiatives like the Portas Pilots and the Future High Street Fund, and I share first-hand insights from towns like Market Rasen and Gainsborough.
I’ll break down the current retail landscape, consumer confidence, and the policy decisions on the horizon that could make or break our high streets. If you care about the future of your local high street—or just want to know what needs to change to make regeneration stick—this episode is essential listening.
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Pride of place or a waste of taxpayers money? It remains
Speaker:to be seen.
Speaker:Let's be honest, it's starting to feel a bit like deja vu on the
Speaker:high street. There's been another big Government announcement in the last couple of weeks.
Speaker:It's another shiny new initiative, a promise to revive town
Speaker:centres. This time it's called the Pride In Place programme,
Speaker:with all sorts of talk about community auctions, local
Speaker:powers, billions in funding being farmed out to hundreds of high
Speaker:streets. That sounds great, right? But the question is,
Speaker:will this be transformation or just yet another waste of
Speaker:taxpayers money? We've been here before.
Speaker:In 2011 and 2012, we had the Porters Pilots.
Speaker:That was £100,000 won by each of 13
Speaker:towns who'd promised projects to reinvent the high streets by
Speaker:developing markets or updating the look and feel
Speaker:of the place. Shortly after that came the Future High
Speaker:Street Fund under Grant Shapps, the then High Streets Minister.
Speaker:That launched in, I think, 2013. It was around a billion
Speaker:pounds distributed between 72 towns. And it was all about
Speaker:modernization, diversification and rebuilding. But
Speaker:we're now over a decade on and we're still talking about the same
Speaker:things. We've still got vacancy rates, disjointed planning and volunteer
Speaker:burnout. Because it isn't about the money that fixes these
Speaker:places, it's about the capability of the businesses,
Speaker:the collaboration between them and relevant and appropriate
Speaker:support from local authorities and destination marketing organisations.
Speaker:So let's have a case study on this. This is quite an interesting one.
Speaker:I've been working with West Lindsey District Council for the last five years under
Speaker:various different programmes of business support. But the first time I went up to
Speaker:Market Raisin was to be a judge for their window dressing
Speaker:competition. Now, Market Raisin was quite a
Speaker:surprise. They were one of the Porter's pilot towns and their whole pitch
Speaker:was about, let's put the market back in Market Raisin.
Speaker:And that was a great idea. So they won the Porter's funding.
Speaker:Further down the line, they also won the High Street X Fund. Now, if
Speaker:you know Market Raisin, you'll know there's a racecourse, quite salubrious.
Speaker:And there's a very lovely, quaint little market town,
Speaker:but there's not much else around. It's a very rural area off the
Speaker:beaten track in Lincolnshire, a good half an hour's drive or so to
Speaker:Lincoln, about 20 minutes to Gainsborough. So there are bigger towns not
Speaker:too far away that pull the local population out of Market Raisin
Speaker:to go shopping and doing their entertainment elsewhere.
Speaker:People do come into the town, but the racecourse is the draw and that's on
Speaker:the edge of town. So putting the market back, that sounded like a great plan.
Speaker:They had the funding from the porter's pilots and they had a volunteer team,
Speaker:town team as it was called back then, if you remember that. And they had
Speaker:the energy, but the funding went towards things like securing
Speaker:market stalls, the storage, the delivery, the
Speaker:putting up, taking down and so on. And that exhausted the fund
Speaker:quite quickly. The logistics were quite hard. There was a lot
Speaker:of work involved and the volunteers were all unpaid. When you
Speaker:think about that, these are real people with real full time jobs or businesses to
Speaker:run. And what happened was volunteer
Speaker:exhaustion set in. And this happened across town. Teams
Speaker:up and down the country and even CICs that were set up,
Speaker:community interest companies were set up to deliver destination marketing. A
Speaker:number of them have gone out of business and entered administration because there
Speaker:just isn't an unlimited fund available and people need
Speaker:to be paid. So regardless of the effort and the heart,
Speaker:the town team disbanded. So that quarter of a million pounds and maybe
Speaker:more of taxpayers money was spent with no
Speaker:sustainable impact. And that isn't a failure from
Speaker:lack of passion, it's a failure through lack of structure
Speaker:and lack of recognition that to do things properly you have to do things
Speaker:professionally. And that means paying people. So here's what I'm seriously worried
Speaker:about. I hope and pray that pride of place doesn't follow the same playbook.
Speaker:History shouldn't repeat itself. There's been another flurry of press releases
Speaker:and people saying yes, it's great, it's great, lots of short term
Speaker:enthusiasm. But then will there become exhaustion and decline
Speaker:because where the country is now, we simply can't afford that.
Speaker:Let's remind ourselves what the retail and high street landscape looked as we ended
Speaker:September. The ons were reporting that in August retail
Speaker:sales volumes rose by 0.5% month on month and
Speaker:0.7% year on year. But the three months to August volume
Speaker:fell by 0.1%. So that really means that August's
Speaker:growth wasn't growth, it was all about inflation
Speaker:and something to do with the warm weather making some demand.
Speaker:The BRC told us that retail sales were up
Speaker:3.1% year on year. But that again is mostly driven through
Speaker:food and drink inflation. Non food, which is the
Speaker:discretionary spend heartland was only 1.8% up. So
Speaker:really what we're seeing is shoppers are spending more just to get the same
Speaker:basket. Then there's consumer sentiment. The
Speaker:GFK consumer confidence index fell from
Speaker:-17 in August to -19 in September. Every
Speaker:single measure dropped the confidence around personal finances, major
Speaker:purchases, outlook to the economy. So households are clearly
Speaker:tightening their belts before peak season and maybe they're already
Speaker:hoping and praying that Black Friday delivers the goods quite
Speaker:literally. The most worrying One was the
Speaker:OECD's forecast that UK inflation was at
Speaker:3.5% and that's the highest in the G7.
Speaker:The slower growth is expected in 2026 and
Speaker:food prices are rising, Trump tariffs are biting and global
Speaker:uncertainties everywhere, with wars popping up and
Speaker:disruption in the globe. When all those
Speaker:issues arise and the news is selling us
Speaker:a story of trouble here, trouble there, worry about this, worry about that.
Speaker:What actually happens is despite if it is
Speaker:truly affecting consumers or not, confidence drops.
Speaker:That means that they're less likely to spend. So the
Speaker:opportunity for retail to recover is much limited.
Speaker:So we need to look forward and be realistic, but not be too
Speaker:depressed by what's going on in the world at the moment. We're heading into the
Speaker:end of October and towards November, and really
Speaker:this is the month that sets the scene for the Golden Quarter.
Speaker:October gives us Halloween half term and a run up to Black
Speaker:Friday. As we enter November, because Black Friday, one day, it's now a whole
Speaker:month, they're all going to tell us the stats from these
Speaker:sort of events and consumer activity is going to tell us how confident or
Speaker:cautious the public really is, because if the families pull back on
Speaker:discretionary spending, it'll hit fashion, home and gifting
Speaker:categories first. If footfall holds up,
Speaker:it'll be thanks to things like clever place marketing, local events and
Speaker:experiences worth leaving home for, particularly with the
Speaker:nights drawing in and the autumn weather biting.
Speaker:So really for retailers, local authorities, business improvement
Speaker:districts, destination marketing organizations and anyone involved in place management,
Speaker:now's the time to double down on what really drives performance.
Speaker:And from my point of view, that's people. Well trained people,
Speaker:sharp presentation, great windows, good layouts, great point
Speaker:of sale, clear pricing that consistently gets
Speaker:across the value proposition and reliable stocking levels. Because
Speaker:you can't buy what you've not got, customers are making
Speaker:fewer trips to the shops, but when they do shop, they want it to be
Speaker:worth it. So, thinking a bit more about this whole
Speaker:place focus and what strong place management means, what it means to retailers,
Speaker:what it means to the community, and how that links back
Speaker:to boosting thoughtful consumer confidence and of course, pride in
Speaker:place, I'm going to talk a little bit about another town in West Lindsay that
Speaker:I've had the pleasure of working with and that's Gainsborough. I started working with
Speaker:them five years ago, as I mentioned, and the town was looking
Speaker:rundown, a little shabby, and it needed an
Speaker:injection of love and care and attention. But over the last couple of years the
Speaker:town's been completely transformed and this has been a real
Speaker:significant concerted effort between the local authority and the
Speaker:businesses and the community to make a
Speaker:difference to the place. So they've got public realm improvements,
Speaker:more greenery, nice signage, they've got some pretty finger posts as well as
Speaker:other signage that make it just feel easier to get around the place if you
Speaker:are a visitor. They've got some free parking available and they've
Speaker:really updated the visitor experience. A new cinema has been
Speaker:created in collaboration with one of the cinema operators which has helped
Speaker:to maintain Evening Footfall, which had a knock on benefit
Speaker:to the evening and nighttime economy and hospitality and leisure.
Speaker:And the best bit was their shop front restoration programme.
Speaker:Now we've seen with the pride of place, that there's a
Speaker:strange suggestion that we would
Speaker:have places auctioning off long term empty shops. But to
Speaker:who? But moreover, that the local community, in
Speaker:a sort of a board of decision makers, will be able to determine
Speaker:if operators can trade from a place. What we had in
Speaker:Gainsborough was I think like a gaming arcade, a couple of betting shops,
Speaker:a couple of vape shops, and we all know they don't look particularly
Speaker:elegant necessarily and for a lot of people they don't like that
Speaker:type of shop. But we have to accept that if they can survive and
Speaker:they're paying the rent, their rates and their staff and the taxes and everything else,
Speaker:if that's what people want, if there's demand for that, we shouldn't be so quick
Speaker:to push them out. Whereas under the new powers, the new community powers, under
Speaker:pride of place, those kind of businesses would be pushed out or
Speaker:potentially vetoed. Now Gainsborough has a number of those
Speaker:businesses, but with the shop front restoration program they look nice.
Speaker:And there's this amazing post on LinkedIn if anybody's interested. Look at the West
Speaker:Lindsay District Council page, scroll back a while and they've got
Speaker:photographs of the before and after that have been animated and it's
Speaker:profoundly different. And shops that you might consider
Speaker:to not be necessarily the most desirable to a high street
Speaker:now look beautiful. It's possible to make the place
Speaker:look incredibly different just by updating
Speaker:the frontages, harking back to the heritage as well. It's a very
Speaker:historic town centre, so they've restored a lot of the heritage buildings
Speaker:and They've made it feel clean, welcome, inviting,
Speaker:as opposed to how it was five years ago when it didn't really feel that
Speaker:way at all. They really epitomise what pride of place
Speaker:needs to be about, about making it a place that people
Speaker:want to go to, giving reasons for them to linger longer and
Speaker:making it look appealing and attractive so you are
Speaker:enticed across the threshold of the store to go in and hopefully
Speaker:spend. Now, that sounds great, but actually, when you
Speaker:speak to the retailers in Gainsborough, footfall is up. They are
Speaker:reporting that they are seeing better trade and increased sales
Speaker:and residents feel much prouder about their place again.
Speaker:So if that isn't what real pride in place looks like, I don't know what
Speaker:does. And it's about targeted investment,
Speaker:coordinated, and it's supported by business engagement
Speaker:and, of course, upskilling the businesses as well to make sure that they are
Speaker:relevant and sustainable in the modern retail environment.
Speaker:So my take on this is if the government really wants to spend this £5
Speaker:billion effectively, they need to back more. More projects like the ones that have taken
Speaker:place in Gainsborough. Building the skills, confidence, the collaboration
Speaker:and not adding extra bureaucracy. I do really think that
Speaker:this empowering communities to auction the empty shops can
Speaker:only work if people actually want to occupy them. And if a
Speaker:place doesn't look desirable and hasn't got footfall, why would anybody want to
Speaker:occupy them? I mean, they're empty for a reason. Letting the locals block
Speaker:tenants because they don't like the look, the signage or the sector, that's
Speaker:not really local empowerment. To me, that's paralysis towards business. It doesn't
Speaker:seem consistent with basic economics, supply and demand.
Speaker:If a shop's going to be viable, people are going to be spending in it.
Speaker:If they're not spending in it, it's not going to be viable. It will close.
Speaker:Unfortunately, if the community want to have the shops that certain members
Speaker:of the community don't like, I guess that's kind of tough because vacancies
Speaker:don't fill themselves. You need businesses to be attracted,
Speaker:you need consistent marketing to bring people back. And if you want
Speaker:to change the dynamic of a town centre, it's all about the events
Speaker:and the experience to keep people coming back, giving people a reason to
Speaker:visit, giving people a reason to stay and giving them reasons to
Speaker:keep coming back. That whole thing of, oh, let's go out to
Speaker:wherever it is, there's always something fun happening there.
Speaker:Otherwise the risk is really straightforward, that £5 billion will
Speaker:be spent and hopefully, well, not. Hopefully,
Speaker:likely as not, nothing Sustainable will be left behind. What I
Speaker:would say, hopefully they can take a leaf from Gainsborough's book and
Speaker:make sure that something long term and sustainable happens with that 5 billion and it
Speaker:really boosts employment and local economies.
Speaker:Continuing, looking at policy level, we're still waiting for the levelling up bill
Speaker:amendments that's going to come out in the next Autumn statement, which is going to
Speaker:be really late this year. It's set for the 26th of November and from
Speaker:my point of view, thinking retail, that is very close to peak trading.
Speaker:It's two days away from Black Friday. Any
Speaker:personal tax rises or spending cuts at that point could shake
Speaker:consumer confidence really suddenly, right when
Speaker:retailers need them to be most confident. We're also looking at things
Speaker:like business rates reform, skills investment and practical support
Speaker:for local growth as non optional. They are
Speaker:seriously essential if we want to talk about reversing decline.
Speaker:There's been a lot of talk about policy and yet
Speaker:retail is a people business. People buy from people.
Speaker:There's a reason that people don't like self checkouts. There's a reason why
Speaker:Amazon closed all of its unmanned stores recently. It's
Speaker:because there's no human interaction. For a lot of people going
Speaker:out to the local shop, particularly people on their own or the elderly,
Speaker:and having a chat with the staff, that might be the only human
Speaker:touch they have that day or even that week. I know a lady
Speaker:that runs a newsagent and she said she wasn't quite sure whether she was running
Speaker:a newsagent or, you know, a community service because the elderly
Speaker:population would pop in to buy a paper and spend 20 minutes having a chat.
Speaker:Of course they didn't mind. It was nice they had loyal customers and as long
Speaker:as they weren't getting in the way of other customers. But it is important to
Speaker:recognize people and that's one of the key messages from the charity Retail
Speaker:Trust as well. I think it's fair to say that retail staff are
Speaker:heading into the toughest stretch of the year. Theft is on the increase
Speaker:because family budgets are under so much pressure. People that would never have thought of
Speaker:shoplifting have done so because they just don't know where
Speaker:else to go. Aggression is rising. People are so less
Speaker:tolerant and stress. I mean, we saw years back
Speaker:fights breaking out in certain shops over a TV and a Black
Speaker:Friday deal because people were waiting and waiting and waiting for a deal
Speaker:and they'd sold out. The last one was on the shelf and
Speaker:people were literally wrestling over it and security staff had to step in. There's a
Speaker:lot of that. And there's a lot of rudeness, just basic rudeness, towards
Speaker:retail staff. There's a reason why people don't want those jobs anymore, and the reason
Speaker:is it's not a particularly pleasant environment to be in. So
Speaker:I believe that management and charities like the Retail Trust and
Speaker:Policing as well, needs to pick up on the theme
Speaker:of retail crime and help our people, because we need people to feel
Speaker:happy and safe and comfortable in their
Speaker:workplace. They don't need to feel threatened, especially when it's
Speaker:hardly the highest paid job out there. So I think if you're a
Speaker:manager or lead a team, remind them that there are free,
Speaker:confidential support networks through places like the Retail Trust. And the
Speaker:industry runs on people power. We might think it's
Speaker:all about the spreadsheets and the margins and the calculations, but if people didn't put
Speaker:stock on shelves and didn't serve customers with a smile, there'd be no sales
Speaker:whatsoever. And I want to make sure that in this run up
Speaker:to Christmas, we don't forget the people we need to protect the morale, their
Speaker:safety and wellbeing, because I think that's even more important than chasing
Speaker:sales targets, because a happy, engaged workforce deliver the sales
Speaker:without even thinking about it, I guess. To wrap up today's
Speaker:episode, where does that leave us? It's almost like we've
Speaker:been there and done that and seen the movie. It's been Porter's pilots,
Speaker:it's been Future High Street, Fund X, and now we've got pride in place.
Speaker:If the government wants a different ending, it's going to need to write a
Speaker:different script. And I think that that script has to be focused
Speaker:on skills and capability, not grants and handouts
Speaker:on business engagement and everybody getting behind a
Speaker:scheme and collaborating and working together, not just bureaucracy
Speaker:and ultimately creating real and sustainable success
Speaker:that people can be proud of and not just coming up with slogans.
Speaker:I don't think pride is something you can pay for. It's something that is
Speaker:built together through the right kind of investment,
Speaker:collaboration and community trust. And it is what
Speaker:keeps places alive long after the photo opportunities are over.
Speaker:And that's the reckoning that Westminster really needs to face this autumn.
Speaker:As a final thought, I'd like to ask Rachel
Speaker:Reeves to face up to her own retail reckoning. She says
Speaker:she wants growth, but she can't do that by tinkering.
Speaker:She's got to tackle the tax system head on. And that includes
Speaker:a full reform of business rates, as has been called for
Speaker:by many people. The brc, most notably for at
Speaker:least a decade, if not longer. And it's also got
Speaker:to make sure that large retailers are exempted
Speaker:from punitively high tax bans because they're some of our most significant
Speaker:employers, whilst not relieving small businesses
Speaker:of the opportunity to grow through the rates relief that
Speaker:she has come forward with. I do believe that the commitment
Speaker:of lower business rates for retail and hospitality from 26 onwards is really
Speaker:important. And what really needs to be focused on in the
Speaker:November statement is no more cosmetic schemes. The final
Speaker:one where I feel there's an opportunity to reverse something
Speaker:that has really damaged our tourist income
Speaker:through retail is VAT free shopping. People
Speaker:from the usa, China and further afield used to come
Speaker:for shopping tourism to places like London, Manchester, Edinburgh and so
Speaker:on. And about 2 billion of sales has been lost due to that.
Speaker:That money's gone elsewhere, into other countries, countries. I would really call
Speaker:on the government to reconsider reversing that policy
Speaker:so that we can get our tourism income back, because it's not just the shopping
Speaker:income, it's the hotels, it's the eating out
Speaker:and everything that goes with shopping tourism.
Speaker:Rachael Reeves, if you're listening, can we have some sensible
Speaker:policies in the Altman statement for retail this time? I'm Claire Bailey, the
Speaker:retail champion, and you've been listening to Retail Reckoning.
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