I have just begun
::Welcome to Films of Black and White,
::everybody.
::How are you all feeling?
::It is a fantastic day to be with y'all.
::Yeah, baby.
::And you know, I say this every week,
::but we have a great episode today.
::We are on to the sweet 16 of
::our 2000s comedies bracket,
::so I'm excited about that.
::We're going to talk a little X-Men 97,
::review the first two
::episodes that have dropped to that.
::But more important...
::marcus came in here like
::with a sense of like
::urgency like he rolls in no
::bullshit just I have things
::to do let's start and I was
::like all right man let's
::get after it but you know
::serious business we are in
::1080p now we are there is
::day you know I mean break
::big black street boys are
::back again we're not fucking around
::Did you call us the Brack Street Boys?
::Damn right.
::I like it.
::I just wanted to make sure I
::heard it right.
::I like it.
::I'm not mad.
::Oh, no, no.
::Are you on board, Brian?
::Are you on board?
::I'm not mad about it.
::Brack Street Boys is fine.
::It's just I was not prepared for it.
::Shout out to the sick nasty
::in the chat that something
::hurts your eyes.
::I hope you're okay.
::I know we're starting a
::little bit late tonight.
::It's the 1080.
::It's the 1080p that's hurting his eyes.
::It's the 1080p.
::It's hurting your retinas.
::Well, great plug to join our Patreon,
::patreon.com slash films in
::black and white.
::If you want to hurt your eyes,
::watch this live stream.
::There you go.
::Marcus J. Destin, a.k.a.
::Mac Daddy.
::How are you feeling, sir?
::Feeling good, feeling good, feeling great.
::We are live and in living color.
::Ready to pile with my boys.
::Ready to pile with my guys.
::Ready to bust through this damn bracket.
::I was looking at it today,
::uploading something like
::the movie posters,
::and I realized we might
::have fucked ourselves.
::But like,
::we got to live with our decisions.
::Yeah.
::I mean, can't go back, but here we are.
::Yeah.
::So here we are.
::But Doug, age of Dougopalypse.
::Yeah.
::How are you feeling?
::I am doing quite well.
::Got to dive into some comic
::books that have been
::sitting on the shelf for a
::while for the research for X-Men 97,
::our discussion for that.
::So that was exciting.
::Had a great time going out
::with Marcus and some other
::folks on Saturday.
::That was like the highlight of my weekend.
::I won a game of darts.
::Also highlight of my weekend.
::It was the way he won on a
::triple 20 or some shit.
::It was insane.
::I did not.
::It was not on purpose,
::but I'm excited to be here.
::Just excited to be here.
::But Brian Roush.
::Hello.
::Stuck in an optic blast landing pose.
::Big Roush.
::I'm stuck here.
::It made more sense with the
::pose and now I'm caught up.
::You know what?
::I wasn't sure which arm you
::were going to go with but now I got it.
::How are you feeling, sir?
::I'm feeling great.
::I'm just full of red ruby
::laser beams from my eyes to be here.
::I'm honestly,
::I got so much energy from
::watching X-Men 97.
::I've been waiting for this
::moment for like five days.
::And then it was even longer
::because I think Marcus and
::I watched X-Men 97 like the
::night it came out.
::And then it was like, all right, Doug.
::Let us know.
::And then it wasn't until yesterday,
::I think,
::that our own spoiler ban was lifted.
::Me and Brian hopped on a separate jet.
::That's the first time I've
::talked to Brian separately.
::There was some stuff that was like,
::did you really do this?
::Okay, you did.
::This is how it starts.
::This is how I eventually
::become a producer for this only.
::I get slowly boxed out.
::One of us will quit the pod
::first before that.
::Absolutely not.
::I can't.
::Well, it's funny you should mention that.
::No, I'm joking.
::Yeah, yeah, yeah.
::Goodbye.
::No, I'm happy to be here.
::I'm happy to be with my guys.
::So, yes.
::And I'm excited to get into the bracket.
::Yes,
::we definitely set ourselves up for
::terrible decisions in the
::best way possible.
::Yeah, 100%.
::Yeah.
::Uh, Brian,
::before we get into catch that
::quotable and the rest of
::the business that we have,
::you want to let people know
::how they can stay in touch with us.
::I would love to.
::Hey folks,
::you already heard me mention it
::in the first five minutes of the podcast,
::but make sure to go check
::out our Patreon.
::This is the best way to
::support this creator.
::owned and independent
::podcast so head over to
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::black and white sign up for
::one of those heats you can
::help us decide the
::direction of the show you
::obviously get access to
::those live streams and then
::additionally you get to
::suggest movies for us to
::watch you know that we are
::marching to the beat of our
::own drum so if you want us
::to watch say I don't know
::I'm just going to throw a movie out there.
::Say you want us to watch
::Resident Evil Apocalypse,
::the second Resident Evil
::movie that we did for our bonus episode.
::Very specific.
::Seems like a little loaded.
::I think you'd hate it, Doug.
::I think you would absolutely
::eviscerate it.
::I watched it this past weekend.
::It is a film that was made...
::Anyway, make sure to follow us on Patreon.
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::Spoiler warnings for X-Men
::97 if you haven't watched it.
::There you go.
::Awesome.
::Way to lay that down, Brian.
::And you're right.
::From the way you have described it, yeah,
::I probably would.
::I probably would,
::and that does entice me just enough.
::It's probably the worst of
::the Resident Evil movies,
::and Maggie and I decided
::we're just going to watch
::them all over the next two weeks.
::Oh, bold move.
::Well, I mean,
::once we started the first one,
::she was like, you wanna?
::And I was like, yeah.
::So we just like,
::here we are and we're on our way.
::And now we're onto the
::fourth movie and we're
::going to go to Alaska and
::weird stuff's going to happen.
::So that's afterlife for
::anybody that is following.
::Thanks, Brian.
::I was curious, which one is it?
::Our resident,
::resident evil updater is Brian Ralph.
::Right.
::That's right.
::I want you to know that like,
::I keep saying all these
::names to Maggie and she's like,
::I don't expect me to know
::what number that is.
::Tell me what,
::tell me the number of the movie.
::I'm like, well, in retribution, she's like,
::is that the fourth one?
::I don't know.
::Brian, Brian, for me, same policy applies.
::Don't assume I know which one that is.
::treat me like you would
::maggie in this case of like
::just say the number so I
::know what's happening here
::no so yeah it's attack of
::the clones figure it out
::figure out what movie
::number it is the opposite
::of fast and furious where
::they stop numbers very true
::yeah good point I'm also
::going to talk about a
::little bit before we get
::into fast and uh fast and
::furious before we get into
::catch that quotable
::That's what we're talking about.
::Yeah.
::What's coming up next?
::So this episode will drop on the 27th.
::You'll hear our X-Men 97 preview,
::a premiere, a review.
::Then you'll hear our Sweet 16 bracket.
::We'll dissect that in a
::little bit right after
::Catch That Quotable.
::Then on April 3rd,
::you'll get our Ghostbusters
::Frozen Empire review and the 8th bracket.
::Then on April the 10th,
::you'll be hearing the news episode,
::a news episode and the
::final four bracket and the
::championship round.
::And then on April 17th is
::our Silver War review.
::These do not include our
::bonus episodes on Patreon.
::And those are if you are not
::in the Patreon,
::you will hear those two days prior.
::So those dates are for those
::that are going to catch
::this when the audio drops on Wednesday.
::And as a surprise to Doug and Brian,
::I think we're going to try
::and start uploading our
::videos to Spotify because
::that is an option.
::So we're going to work on that.
::So we'll have those visuals up there.
::There we go.
::Oh, that is a surprise,
::but it's a fun surprise.
::And really quick, Civil War,
::we are not talking about
::the event that took place
::in the United States around the 1860s.
::We are talking about a movie
::by A24 that looks...
::both horrific but incredible
::at the same time I don't
::know what to do with that I
::don't know what to do with
::I don't know I'm like
::waiting I don't know I'm
::waiting to like either hate
::or love that movie I don't
::feel like there's gonna be
::like any in middle ground
::I'm really I don't know man
::yeah it's gonna be a lot
::but gentlemen we need to
::play a lovely game that we
::like to call catch that quotable
::Catch that quotable.
::Silky sounds of Marcus J. Gentlemen,
::are you ready for this week's quote?
::Hit me.
::Look at you.
::You were like in unison.
::That was so nice.
::All right.
::This is the quote because I
::realize I just kind of go
::into it and sometimes
::there's some confusion.
::This is the quote.
::Honey,
::did you see I put another hamper in
::the bathroom?
::This one's for your shirts.
::The other's just for socks
::and poopoo undies.
::What?
::honey did you see I put
::another hamper in the
::bathroom this one's for
::your shirts and the other's
::just for poopoo for for
::socks and poopoo undies is
::this a baby uh well it's an
::adult maybe it's a joke I
::think it's it's definitely
::a joke yeah I have no idea
::where to even start that's
::you know what I think
::here's what I think it is
::okay okay break it down the
::this is my thought
::This strikes me as a,
::and I don't know if this is
::it or if it's just in this same realm,
::but the movie is the other guys.
::Because Will Ferrell and,
::it's not Eva Longoria.
::I think it is Eva Longoria.
::Eva Longoria are married.
::That's a joke.
::Gator don't play that.
::Gator don't play no shit.
::And so I could see this
::being an exchange between
::the two of them.
::It feels too kiddish, though.
::Like, I can see where you're going,
::but the poo-poo undies
::seems like it's a deliberate joke.
::Roman Myers also said older.
::So he said it's an older movie.
::I guess you wouldn't say that to an adult,
::I guess.
::No, you wouldn't.
::No.
::I could see it.
::What's the one with Liam
::Neeson and they're on the plane?
::Airplane?
::Something like that.
::Or Pink Panther or something like that.
::Airplane,
::Pink Panther also could be the naked gun.
::I could see that.
::For some reason I like that one.
::Maybe.
::We're getting 70s as our cue,
::which means I'm promptly
::not going to get it.
::That's just what's going to happen.
::And this is just movies, not TV shows,
::right?
::If it's in the 70s,
::that means it's something
::black and white.
::Gotta be.
::No, they were doing color at that point.
::Oh, okay.
::Well, never mind.
::It's a 70s comedy.
::I think we've narrowed it
::down to a 70s comedy.
::I...
::Marcus, I like your guess.
::I like your Pink Panther guess.
::That would be in the right time frame.
::That would be in the right time zone.
::Like the original Pink Panther,
::that's where it would be.
::So I like that as a guess.
::That would be TV show
::because the movie didn't
::come out to the early 90s.
::I don't know.
::Slapshot?
::I don't know.
::That's my guess.
::Blazing Saddles?
::There's like a big baby
::involved in this and
::there's something that's
::throwing me for a loop.
::Blazing Saddles I like too.
::Okay, I'll go.
::I don't think it's Animal House.
::No.
::Marcus is getting kind of warmer.
::That's surprising.
::Which part?
::The black and white part?
::Or the big baby part.
::I mean, you could... What was that?
::He's talking.
::No, that was 80s.
::What's the TV show?
::I'm thinking like the realm
::of Beverly Hillbillies or
::if I'm getting closer and that's the 70s.
::And here's the thing,
::I don't know anything in the 70s,
::so I'm just guessing.
::Beverly Hillbillies.
::There was the dumbass TV
::show that had monsters in it.
::And then they were taking
::care of monsters.
::The monsters.
::Something like that.
::So I'll say the monsters or
::Beverly Hillbillies or
::something like that.
::Brian, what's your guess?
::I mean...
::I don't know, man.
::I'm up a creek right now.
::Young Frankenstein.
::I don't know.
::Okay, that's a good one.
::All right, so Brian guessed that one.
::I'm going to go with Dr.
::Strangelove just because
::that's a 70s comedy that is
::in black and white.
::I'm not feeling good about it.
::I also don't feel good about it.
::But here we are.
::Enjoy the sweet, sweet whisper.
::What did you say?
::What?
::Brian, what was your guess?
::I said Young Frankenstein.
::You fucking nailed it.
::Brian motherfucking Roush.
::No, no.
::You fucking nailed it.
::What?
::Oh, you fucking nailed it.
::I've never heard of this show.
::Nailed it.
::It feels good.
::It feels good, man.
::It's a great movie, and Brian,
::now that you said that,
::now that I have the quote
::and I know where it is, I know...
::I know that part.
::It's like towards the end.
::Yeah.
::I haven't seen that movie in ages.
::Goodness gracious.
::Well, well, well done.
::Seventy dollars.
::Seventy dollars.
::marcus that one is worth a
::watch not something like
::you would need to like sit
::down and pay attention to
::but as far as like comedy
::classics are concerned oh
::my god that one I would
::consider yeah yeah I
::remember what is the
::monsters then is that the
::70s the monsters of the tv
::show oh in that same time
::yeah in that same time yeah
::I got it got it
::And the whistling you were
::singing is from Andy Griffith,
::the Andy Griffith show,
::which is from the 50s.
::So, but you're fine.
::You know, we're averaging here.
::None of those shows were for me.
::They were not wrong.
::I mean, my film teacher suggested.
::That's funny.
::My film teacher suggested
::that I watch Young
::Frankenstein in high school.
::That's the only reason I saw it.
::And I only saw it once.
::So I've seen it multiple times.
::I have it like on DVD.
::Like it's,
::I love that movie,
::but I really like Mel
::Brooks as a comedy guy.
::Yeah, it's one he excels in, for sure.
::Oh, yeah, 100%.
::Well, there we go.
::Brian, I am flabbergasted.
::You nailed it.
::I don't even know what to say.
::As soon as we knew the time period,
::I was like, I think I can lock this in,
::but I don't feel good about it.
::I don't know.
::I was waiting for it to be
::Airplane or something,
::to be completely honest with you.
::Yeah.
::Well done.
::And then another quote from
::that wasn't your hump on the other side.
::That's another great moment.
::Gentlemen,
::we have a whole ass podcast to get to.
::Whole ass.
::But before we dive into
::X-Men 97... You have to be
::confused with an asshole.
::That's important.
::That's why I see you, Brian.
::Whole first, ass second.
::Any news or anything y'all
::want to plug real quick
::before we jump into X-Men 97?
::Y'all want to talk about the diddler?
::I do not.
::I do not, but let's just put it this way.
::Here's what I'm going to say, y'all.
::Listen to all of your
::favorite Puff Daddy songs now,
::because in about two days,
::you ain't going to be able
::to play those shits no more.
::Them shits going to be illegal, huh?
::If people don't know what
::we're talking about, as of this broadcast,
::P. Diddy's Miami and
::California homes are being
::searched by name and alphabet agency.
::Department of Homeland Security.
::That's the big one now.
::the both all of the police
::departments any of them um
::and yeah he under a pending
::and current an
::investigation so yep did he
::yeah did he's getting
::searched did he's getting
::sir um I'm gonna do a rapid
::fire because I don't want
::to stick on diddy too long
::don't because the feds
::gonna be on the feds gonna
::be on his ass like they're
::listening now okay yeah do
::they know anything
::no no we don't we don't know
::these guys don't know
::anything we do movies take
::that take that um okay so
::euphoria season three
::suffers a setback with
::surprising delay um and so
::I don't know if that shit
::is ever coming out um
::I think after The Idol.
::Oh, you're doing Rapid Fire.
::I'm doing Rapid Fire.
::I'll do Rapid Fire.
::Rapid Fire.
::Rapid Fire.
::We can respond.
::And then Jurassic World 4 is
::going to add Scarlett
::Johansson and will be
::leading the next
::installment of the franchise.
::Then Seth Rogen is in talks
::to lead or direct an
::animated Venom movie.
::And that's pretty much all
::of the big news.
::Oh.
::One that pissed me off that
::I think will also piss off Doug.
::The Joker 2 is like,
::it is a musical and it has
::15 songs and two are original songs.
::What?
::Yes.
::This sounds like a great movie.
::It sounds fucking terrible
::compared to the first.
::It's such a dramatic shift.
::It is, and I didn't like the first Joker.
::Really?
::No, that's what I think.
::I think it's going to be a
::great discussion for all of us.
::No, the first Joker is fine.
::I think it's fine,
::but I don't think it did anything.
::That's two fines, Brian.
::You get one more,
::and then you have to change
::to say what you really want to say.
::You get one more.
::Once you say it's fine again,
::you have to go.
::This is the problem.
::You say it three times.
::This is the problem and
::benefit of being on this podcast so long.
::You know when it's a double
::fine situation.
::You're like, he's begging to be asked.
::He just wants to let it in.
::I'm going to save that for
::another episode.
::I'm excited for them to tweak the formula.
::I'm also excited to see what
::Lady Gaga does.
::yeah that's probably what
::I'm looking forward to most
::I'll agree I'm I am willing
::to give them a chance to
::figure it out I am on
::record of not being a big
::fan of musicals but I will
::but I will give them a
::chance I will give them a
::chance to figure it out
::what if it's like wicked
::and then you like love it
::Then you know what?
::Then I have to eat my hat,
::and that's just where we're at.
::I will have to eat the grizzle.
::The grizzle.
::Can I ask a quick question?
::What the fuck are they going
::to keep doing with these dinosaurs?
::How many more...
::Don't get me wrong.
::I grew up loving dinosaurs.
::Harrison loves dinosaurs.
::Dinosaurs are everywhere.
::I have a picture right here
::he colored of a dinosaur.
::What are we doing here?
::Where else did InGen stash
::these fucking things that
::they have to go find them now?
::Okay, first off, one,
::this is a universal franchise,
::like Fast and Furious.
::They're going to do everything.
::We're going to have dinosaurs on the moon,
::okay?
::God damn it.
::That's where this all goes.
::And I'm not mad about it,
::but also it's going to happen.
::Or underwater dinosaurs or
::something or other.
::there like it's an infinite
::concept like oh well we
::didn't get this dinosaur
::park and in mongolia no one
::told us about this one and
::they're all like desert
::dinosaurs or something I
::don't know whatever it's
::one of these infinite
::franchises like fast and
::furious just make the car go fast
::I think that's fair.
::I won't say anything else.
::Doug, I'm not surprised.
::I get it, though.
::I get what you're saying,
::but I see them wanting to
::milk this continuously.
::And if they get Scarlett
::Johansson for this,
::that's a whole trilogy that
::we're looking at.
::That's the thing is it is that it is.
::And she'll be.
::And the problem is,
::is that she will have more
::like character development.
::Yes.
::Like right off the jump than
::she did in her time at Marvel.
::And it'll make everybody
::will be mad about it.
::um the last you already know
::the media cycle I do I know
::how this is gonna go you
::guys um and the other thing
::I'll say is uh man seth
::rogan do whatever you want
::animation guy because that
::is seriously after mutant
::mayhem I am excited to see
::what you do with venom very
::excited to see what you do
::that's what I say um I just
::want to say real quick
::we're totally not getting
::euphoria season three
::I don't think they can get
::that cast back together if
::their life depended on it.
::It was said in the report,
::they encouraged the cast to
::take other roles.
::I think that shit is a fucking wrap.
::And I think if it takes you
::three years to film,
::to even get a third season done, one,
::do these people age out or
::lose interest in
::euphoria and the direction
::it's taking because you've
::got to evolve this thing
::right and it's like you're
::going to it's pushing its
::limits and I think that you
::have a I'll just take one
::person because I only know
::this one person's work you
::got well too sydney sweeney
::is going to go in a
::completely different
::direction here soon and
::then zendaya is going to
::probably get to a point
::where she's kind of tired
::of maybe portraying that
::role because of the
::inconsistency because I'm yeah she's not
::getting ultra booked and
::busy at this moment?
::I think Zendaya is.
::Zendaya or Zendaya?
::Zendaya, I'm pretty sure.
::I'm pretty sure she's kind
::of hit that moment.
::I feel like her and Sydney
::Sweeney both hit that
::moment in stride in the
::past two months is what I feel like.
::And
::They're going to be
::producing their own things.
::I feel like Euphoria, though,
::was an awards machine.
::So I do feel like that's why
::some people kind of stuck
::around it when it was
::problematic at times.
::I still have not watched an episode.
::It's fine.
::It's fine.
::I just looked it up.
::It's Zendaya.
::I don't know why I double-guessed myself.
::Euphoria is fine as a drama
::that explores addiction.
::Having them be high schoolers is a choice,
::but at the same time, it
::it is a reality for people
::that age yeah that that
::just I have never
::experienced anything like
::that my I have not been
::touched by those
::experiences but you see why
::she won the awards I think
::that's the best way for me
::to put it doug like if you
::watch the episodes she won
::for you're like oh I got it
::like this is yeah this is
::above everything else on tv
::that zendaya is doing like
::it's above everything else
::in a dramatic role like
::that's kind of where it's at
::I mean,
::Sidney Sweeney played ostensibly a
::16 year old in Madam Web.
::So I don't think the age is an issue.
::It's just going to come down to time,
::you guys.
::I mean, they have to go to college.
::They have to go.
::Like if they do it,
::they they have to go to college.
::There's no way any of those.
::people could be heisting.
::God,
::that feels like that's opening a whole
::nother fucking door.
::I mean, you need a new cast.
::I think you need a new cast
::because there's the young
::man that's in that movie
::that's in that show too
::that is probably going to
::take off here soon.
::I know the guy you're talking about.
::The guy who was in Salt Burn.
::Yes, yes, yep, yep, yep, yep.
::Basically the one guy in Euphoria.
::I can't even,
::I don't even feel right
::explaining what he goes
::through in the show because
::I don't think it does it justice,
::but yeah.
::No, Jacob Elordi, I believe this is,
::I think I'm saying his name right,
::but yeah, Jacob Elordi, he's,
::I do feel like he's going
::to pick up some buzz in the indie scene.
::He did a really good job in Saltburn.
::So, you know.
::Just make your peace with it, folks.
::We're not getting Euphoria season three.
::It's okay.
::I don't want to put that in
::there either but the actor
::also passed one of the
::actors also passed away in
::that and I was wondering
::wow you're right maybe
::everybody's kind of like
::you know what after taking
::time away from it let's
::leave it where it kind of
::sat with this person in the
::show it's a fine ending
::it's a fine ending alright
::gentlemen shall we get into
::X-Men 97 shall we oh we're
::doing that first before the bracket
::That's the way you had it
::listed on the little plug
::thing at the beginning.
::Oh, I didn't have to go in that order.
::Dealer's choice.
::I will turn it to you, my guys.
::Do you want it to be bracket
::or do you want it to be X-Men 97?
::Let's bracket it up.
::Let's bracket it up first.
::There's only eight decisions
::compared to the 16 we made last week,
::so I do feel like it's
::going to go a little bit faster.
::Let's hope so.
::it was a little rough there
::I mean yeah I had a very
::interesting moment there
::walking out I went to the
::movie theater not to watch
::a movie but to pick up like
::some stuff for work and had
::a very interesting interaction kind of
::leading into our
::Ghostbusters review of
::people walking out of the
::theater and their initial
::reactions to Ghostbusters.
::Okay.
::Frozen Empire.
::And I thought it was just very intriguing.
::It was two things, and this is real quick.
::It was like, oh, the movie was just fine.
::Like it was fun.
::It was fun and it was fine.
::And then the other thing was,
::I said me and somebody's daughter,
::we were talking about
::Ghostbusters and I was like, well,
::I really liked Ghostbusters Afterlife.
::And the daughter was like, yeah,
::I thought that one was really,
::really good.
::And they was like,
::there was a movie before this.
::I feel like people missed a step here.
::And maybe it was Ghostbusters.
::But a lot of people don't
::know that the Frozen Empire
::is the sequel or what
::follow up to Ghostbusters Afterlife.
::So I just want to plug that in.
::Wow.
::It was two sets of parents
::in the hallway and they
::both said the same thing of like,
::we did not know that there
::was a movie before that.
::That's why we feel like we
::missed something.
::That's so funny.
::Alright.
::All right, Brian.
::Walk me through it, Brian.
::Bracket Daddy, take it away.
::All righty.
::Our first matchup, folks,
::is the 40-year-old virgin
::versus Bruce Almighty.
::You've got Steve Carell in
::arguably one of his
::funniest roles and Jim Carrey as God.
::Is this going to mess this
::up if I pull the poster out?
::I don't think so.
::Should I try?
::No.
::I don't know what it's going
::to do to this share screen.
::There you go.
::40-year-old virgin.
::World on a string.
::I'm going Bruce Almighty.
::You're going Bruce Almighty.
::I'm going 40-year-old virgin.
::There's more laughs to me in
::40-year-old virgin even
::though some of the setup takes longer.
::Doug,
::you're in the unenviable position of
::deciding this right now.
::I enjoy the 40 year old virgin more.
::I'm with Brian.
::I think for me, the labs come,
::the laughs come quicker.
::And that's not to say that I
::don't appreciate like Jim
::Carrey's comedy.
::I think Jim Carrey as a
::comedian generally can do no wrong.
::I just think in terms of writing,
::I think I enjoyed 40 year
::old virgin just a little bit more.
::No, that's understandable.
::I think I picked Bruce
::Almighty knowing it would lose.
::Because if you're asking me
::which movie I would easily watch first,
::it would be right somebody
::and I think I'll easily
::laugh because that's my shit.
::So that one is easier to get into.
::I will say that.
::I'm like 40 year old virgin.
::If there's like a little bit
::of a wind up and you need a minute.
::um totally okay we're on
::clerks 2 versus the
::hangover two wildly
::different movies very
::different movies wow okay I
::guess I forgot this after
::our juno conversation for
::some reason uh here we are
::um I forgot rosario dawson
::was in this by the way I forgot
::I only remember Rosario
::Dawson because there is a story.
::There's a whole joke about
::going ass to mouth in Clerks 2.
::And she says,
::you never go ass to mouth in public.
::And then she talks with
::Dante in her office because
::she's the manager of the movies.
::She goes, hey, between you and me,
::sometimes it's acceptable
::to go ass to mouth.
::That's the line I remember
::from that movie.
::Rosaria Dawson,
::she just... She does it all.
::But here's the thing.
::She commits.
::She commits to all of it.
::So I'm not even mad about it.
::And now she plays Ahsoka.
::And now she plays Ahsoka.
::Ahsoka talked about going ass to mouth.
::That's the sentence.
::Look at the pipeline.
::Yeah, yeah, yeah.
::Look at the pipeline.
::That's crazy.
::Let's move on from this.
::I'm going to go to Hangover.
::I am also going to hangover.
::When did I become the person
::we move on from?
::It happens.
::Your roles flip-flop very
::easily on this podcast.
::You're loud.
::You're versatile.
::I'm also going The Hangover,
::so I have nothing to say
::about this matchup other
::than when did this happen to me?
::Life comes at you fast.
::It comes at you quick.
::Clerks 2 is a darling,
::but The Hangover has such a
::legendary status,
::even just the way it ends.
::It's a fun mystery.
::What Clerks 2 did as a
::sequel to a beloved cult classic,
::it did a good job.
::Walking into Clerks 2, I went, nope,
::no way that Kevin Smith is
::going to be able to pull this off.
::This isn't going to work.
::I thought it was pretty true
::to the original,
::and I enjoyed what they
::were able to put out.
::Yeah.
::tip the hat to Kevin for
::actually being able to do it.
::The way that this ended out
::shouldn't be anything other than... Sorry,
::I agree with you.
::No,
::I was just going to... I have a
::prediction that The
::Hangover and 40-Year-Old
::Virgin are going to be in
::the championship.
::Well, bad news.
::They can't be.
::That's next week.
::40-Year-Old Virgin versus The Hangover.
::We're going to have to...
::Search our souls for that.
::Until then,
::we have to decide meet the
::parents versus Harold and
::Kumar go to White Castle.
::Also,
::shout out to Marcus for having all
::these posters ready to go.
::We didn't talk about that
::and he's just doing it.
::Man, what a guy.
::Your fan club.
::The bromance between the two of you grows.
::I am going to go with...
::This is your fault because
::you didn't watch X-Men 97
::in a timely manner.
::I just want to say that.
::The only reason... Me and
::Brian could not hold... We
::couldn't hold it in.
::You took a fucking week to watch X-Men 97.
::From the gentleman who has
::before told me that he
::waited until the day of to
::watch a movie for this podcast.
::That's true.
::Hey, Pot, I'm Kettle.
::How are we again?
::That's true.
::As am I. In the Kettle Pot scenario.
::I'm going to go with Meet the Parents.
::Meet the Parents.
::How...
::mr pot kettle how are you
::how are you going with meet
::the parents yep just moving
::on all right mr kettle how
::how did you come to this
::decision over harold and
::kumar like over the neil
::patrick harris of it all um
::I think because like in
::terms of a story I think as far as like a
::There's a little bit more
::complexity to the way in
::which that story is written.
::I think there's a little less disbelief.
::And I think there's a little
::bit more relatability
::overall to that story.
::I think for most folks, they have a Mary.
::They have a...
::meeting the in-laws for the
::first time sort of the
::anxiety and fear that can
::come with that type of
::experience and it does take
::a relatively common fear
::and something that
::everybody can relate to and
::then makes it really really
::funny I think Harold and
::Kumar again no shade to
::them at all come on Boogie
::we gonna burn this mother
::down like Harold and Kumar
::go to White Castle are it's
::a very well done story
::It's just I think there's a
::little bit more disbelief
::that has to be suspended on like, wait,
::all of these things happen
::to this these two people
::while they're trying to go get burgers.
::So like for me,
::I think I'm going with meet
::the parents because it's a
::little bit more relatable.
::I'm going to meet the parents.
::You're going to meet the parents.
::I've seen Harold and Kumar twice.
::I've seen Meet the Parents
::at least seven times.
::Yeah.
::It's just what Doug said.
::It's the execution of the comedy.
::And Meet the Parents is more my style,
::I think, for me.
::Not to say Harold and Kumar
::is a bad movie at all.
::No, it's not.
::Harold and Kumar is a good movie.
::And it feels explicitly made
::for people who are on
::mind-altering substances.
::Whether it's alcohol...
::or marijuana or whatever
::choose your own adventure
::type situation but I feel
::like you have to be in a
::certain mindset for it to
::like fully enjoy it whereas
::meet the parents you can
::watch that stone sober yeah
::yeah and you're you're good
::that was when comedy
::central every you had to
::smoke to watch comedy
::central on tv like
::everything that came on was
::like for smokers paradise
::not not when reno was on reno 9-1-1
::I loved Reno 9-1-1.
::I loved Reno 9-1-1.
::I feel like somebody was
::smoking a lot that was on too.
::Speaking of the good times, folks,
::we have the Will Ferrell Bowl.
::We have Anchorman versus
::Talladega Knights.
::Can you go back to that first poster?
::Yes.
::Now go to the other one.
::This is triangle cast.
::That's what this is.
::For those who are listening,
::just Google Anchorman
::Legend of Ron Burgundy.
::Google Talladega Nights.
::The posters are identical.
::They are Will Ferrell in the center,
::different people on either side.
::With supporting characters
::in a triangle behind him.
::That's exactly what this is.
::It's the Will Ferrell recipe.
::It is.
::it is it is 100 they knew
::exactly what they were
::doing exactly what they
::were doing so let me tell
::you how I'm gonna go about
::this fuck this heart is so
::I think I am going to try
::to separate um because
::these two movies have a
::common denominator I'm
::gonna try and take will
::ferrell out of them okay ow
::how are you doing
::By not making my decision
::based off of his comedic
::ability and the way his
::acting carries it.
::Because here's the reason why I say that.
::It's it's it's top notch in both.
::Like if I was I mean,
::that's a soapy choice.
::Like you can't.
::That's that's that's very, very,
::very difficult.
::I think you have to like
::sort of evaluate the cast
::of characters around him.
::And I think in that regard,
::I think Talladega Nights, for me,
::is a movie I prefer because
::of the dynamic that he has
::with the other folks that he is there.
::In particular,
::his element with John C.
::Reilly is incredible.
::And then you take on top of that –
::the the whole like stabbing
::your the like the knife in
::the leg like in the
::hospital seat like all of
::that I think for me yeah
::that to me does it for me a
::little bit better that is
::not to say that there
::aren't moments like I love
::lamp like are you just
::looking around the room and
::saying things you love I
::just think for me talladega
::nights I think is something
::I would watch again and
::again and again oh um brian
::you want to go you want me to go
::I'll go.
::Okay, I'm going to break the ice.
::It's Anchorman still for me.
::There you go.
::I thought about what you said, Doug.
::I listen, and you think about,
::you take the Will Ferrell
::of it all out of it.
::Brian, you could say I listened,
::but I fucking disagree.
::You could just skip it.
::My man was putting all the fluff on there.
::He was like, listen,
::I hear you aggressively and
::I love you with all my
::heart and well-being.
::But you a dumb bitch.
::Look at his square and say, fuck you,
::square.
::Because Brian was like, hey, man,
::you are such a good friend
::and I like you a lot and I listened.
::he said brian said the word
::I listen look I promise I'm
::not like using my like
::masters and counseling here
::to like like massage you to
::a certain thing I want you
::to do I promise I i hear
::you and I like that I like
::I'm not trying to you are
::oh you are well it's really
::important I listen I don't
::need to be brian
::Call him a motherfucker right now.
::The supporting people in
::Anchorman stand out to me.
::I really like Christina Applegate.
::I think she's really good in
::it because she kind of has
::to play this straight character.
::But Paul Rudd.
::Paul Rudd stands out in this movie.
::I can't tell you how many
::Paul Rudd quotes from this
::movie that I've said.
::And also Steve Carell just being this
::yeah I just I Talladega
::Nights it just doesn't
::reach that high for me with
::the supporting cast like I
::definitely don't you put
::that evil on me Ricky Bobby
::is a classic it is classic
::and Sweet Baby Jesus but like
::it's Anchorman at the end of
::the day for me so Marcus it
::goes to you alright I'm
::doing the opposite of what
::my boy Doug did and I'm
::going to say this and this
::is no insult to what Doug's
::processing was I think it
::actually helped me process
::my choice if I'm looking at
::both of these I think that
::if Paul Rudd wasn't Paul
::Rudd Steve Carell wasn't
::Steve Carell if I'm looking
::at this crew and all the
::side characters weren't who they are
::Would the execution be the same?
::I think yes,
::because I feel like you have
::to look at Will Ferrell.
::You know what I mean?
::Which character does he
::really go all the way with, comedy-wise?
::Because I feel like you
::don't get that story unless
::you get that execution from...
::Will Ferrell,
::because I think Anchorman and
::Ricky Bobby are both like
::the same kind of guy,
::but like one pushes the
::envelope on what's like
::pushes it on funny.
::Now Anchorman,
::I think he uses the full
::cast to get that shit off.
::Now, in Talladega Nights,
::I just think that Will kind
::of carries that movie
::because it does revolve around him.
::And half the funny shit that
::the surrounding cast is
::reacting to is primarily about, like...
::him.
::And so I feel like Talladega Knight,
::now that might sound weird
::to the listeners, like,
::what the fuck is he talking about?
::It makes sense in my head
::that I feel like Will in
::Talladega Knight is a different breed.
::Anchorman is okay.
::I feel like you could do
::Anchorman with Paul Wood as
::fucking Ron Burgundy.
::Or you could do Steve Carell
::as Ron Burgundy.
::But like, Talladega Knight,
::Will Ferrell is Ricky Bobby.
::Fair enough.
::And so I'm going Talladega Knight.
::Congratulations, Talladega Knights.
::I'm going to re-watch this just to see.
::I'm going to re-watch it
::after Resident Evil.
::Brian, as you bring up the other one,
::one thing I wanted to make,
::because I went back and I
::listened to the episode
::where we did this before
::and realized that we didn't
::necessarily explain when we
::used the phrase, oh,
::they have to play a straight man,
::or they have to play a straight.
::Just to let everybody know
::that when we're talking
::about a comedy scene...
::The straight is a design to
::be the person who's
::supposed to be the everything is fine.
::They're supposed to be the voice of reason,
::the for lack of a better phrase,
::normal character in a scene
::or in a movie that is sort
::of making what the comedic
::performance is doing.
::It's supposed to heighten
::that and to make it seem
::all the more ridiculous and funny.
::So a great example, Step Brothers.
::They are the two of them are
::interviewing for a job.
::They are sitting across from Seth Rogen.
::Seth Rogen, in that example,
::is the straight man.
::They are because their level
::of he might have some comedic lines,
::but given their level of
::ridiculousness in what they're doing,
::he is playing the straight
::man in that scenario.
::So just to kind of let folks
::know what that means is we
::sort of talked about that
::to sort of bring people up to speed.
::Okay.
::We have four matchups left here.
::So, Shaun of the Dead versus White Chicks.
::Where did I put that poster?
::Oh, look, that's super bad.
::Oh, super bad.
::Here it is.
::White Chicks.
::We got White Chicks
::versus... I don't know
::where the other one is.
::Shaun of the Dead.
::There you go.
::Just imagine the poster was up there.
::Man.
::Man,
::I feel like these two movies do two
::wildly different things.
::They are very different movies.
::That's Shot of the Dead.
::This is... Okay,
::what is... What are you asking me?
::Are you asking me what I
::would prefer to watch?
::What are you asking me?
::This is an audio adventure.
::I mean, we are... Look,
::we're asking you which one
::of these moves on in the bracket.
::A lot of thinking is required.
::You know?
::Brian, you... No, I'm being serious here.
::Well, remember,
::when we put the bracket together,
::one of the decisions we
::made last week was we said, like,
::impact on the zeitgeist of the time.
::Like, impact on, like,
::where it played there.
::I think what we've been
::generally evaluating is comedic writing,
::comedic styling.
::For me,
::it's the storyline that's through
::till the end, I think,
::is something I've been...
::Thinking about is like a
::start to finish making it a
::complete sort of story on that end.
::So I mean,
::they're very similar in what they are.
::I mean,
::they're Sean of the Dead is a story.
::They're both very niche.
::Sean of the Dead is a story
::about two really good friends,
::white chicks.
::they're brothers or are they
::friends they're brothers no
::they're friends I think
::they're friends so again
::two stories about friends
::both getting themselves
::into a unique situation and
::then having to like
::navigate their way around
::it I for me would probably watch ugh
::I probably here's where I'm
::caught because white chicks
::had that like that whole
::thing like with that with Terry Crews.
::I think the premise of it of
::like them trying to hide
::the fact that they're men
::when they're surrounded by
::women all the time.
::Like when they go to the bathroom,
::he's like, bitch,
::like he moves out of the way.
::Like there are moments here
::that are just like very,
::very funny to me.
::Yeah.
::And they make me laugh,
::but Shaun of the Dead
::doesn't make me laugh in the same way.
::Like, it's funny,
::but it's a different style.
::Exactly.
::It's more, do you want wit,
::or do you almost want, it's like, yeah,
::you're comparing styles of humor,
::which is hard.
::Well, I'll tell you what, I'm going.
::Yep.
::Yep.
::I'm going with white chicks
::um well if you're talking
::cultural relevancy I cannot
::ignore white chicks in my
::social circles um they did
::something that was
::different as two black
::leads um they didn't get a
::lot of backlash once again
::these iconic moments from
::this particular movie they
::had the wayne's recipe of
::putting together and
::making something that is
::undeniably rewatchable.
::I have to be in a certain
::mood to watch Shaun of the Dead,
::me personally,
::and only caught it on
::Comedy Central or when it
::was being shown.
::White Chicks is something I
::will go deliberately look
::for to watch to laugh.
::That's how I process this matchup.
::I think... I appreciate what you said.
::Not to make Brian... I'm
::going with White Chicks too then.
::Because I think...
::Okay.
::In terms of moments for me
::that come like straight to my head,
::like that, and I miss you.
::Like that to me will always be like,
::that will always invoke
::that thought process.
::I do think I need to be in a
::certain kind of mood to
::watch Shaun of the Dead.
::Like that to me is my, like,
::if I want to watch a,
::horror movie around Halloween,
::but otherwise I may not
::necessarily be picking it
::up in the middle of the year,
::whereas I could pick up
::White Chicks at any point in time.
::You said that very well, Marcus.
::Thank you.
::I'm going with Shaun of the Dead.
::I like the wit of it.
::I also feel like the weigh-ins,
::and maybe I'm grading on a scale here,
::but I feel like their type
::of humor is better in other
::movies that even we've talked about
::In this bracket, too.
::And I shouldn't be debating
::against another matchup that isn't here.
::That's fair, though.
::I did just enjoy the satire, I think,
::in Shaun of the Dead a
::little bit more than some
::of the obvious quirks in White Chicks.
::I think that's what it comes down to.
::That's fair.
::I think White Chicks is a funny movie,
::and I do feel like it is underrated,
::and I do feel like it's a
::little bit forgotten about.
::Mm-hmm.
::But it was really edgy for the time,
::and I still feel like
::there's even some edgy stuff in there,
::even for today.
::It's very niche.
::It's indie feeling,
::even though it didn't have
::an indie type of reach.
::It had a much broader reach,
::but it's a niche type of taste and style,
::especially it being a British style.
::UK overseas type of movie,
::and I think that plays a part in that too,
::culturally.
::I agree.
::I'm also like the film nerd
::bro that's like, well,
::Shaun of the Dead makes so
::many of these archetypes.
::Rightfully so, though.
::I mean, in terms of, I mean,
::if we were evaluating it on, like,
::if we were evaluating it on
::things like cinematography
::and it would be Sean of the
::dead hands down or even dialogue,
::I would probably go originality.
::Yeah.
::I would go that far, but it's just,
::I think for me in terms of like that,
::like ease of entry piece is
::where that differentiator was.
::No.
::And as we're talking about it,
::it's just like I have to
::put up so many things of
::like so many gates and fences of like,
::well, no, this is why it's special.
::We're white chicks is like.
::No, it's just funny.
::That's a great way to put it.
::That's how my brain is
::processing all of these things.
::It's like,
::what will I go... It's not the
::fact that... We can move as
::we move on to the next one.
::It's not the fact that...
::it's one is better than the
::other I do want to make
::that very clear it is for
::me it's this what would I
::turn my TV on click through
::all the streamers and be
::willing to go watch between
::the two and I think that's
::how I'm making my
::selections of like I'm
::willing to do all of that
::quote unquote work to laugh
::at this movie yeah alrighty
::folks our next matchup is
::Van Wilder versus the Step Brothers
::I can already... I'm just
::going to come out of the gate.
::I think Step Brothers is
::better than Van Wilder.
::I also think Step Brothers is better.
::It's felt unfair, but yeah.
::It's unfair,
::and I'm glad Brian was brave
::enough to be like, look,
::I'm just going to make this decision.
::I was going to know what else was.
::Van Wilder is fine and raunchy,
::and if you're a freshman in college,
::I could see how this movie
::could just really stick with you.
::And really rock your world.
::yeah exactly but like Step
::Brothers it has so many
::understated comedic moments
::that stay with me and
::that's hard to do Catalina
::Wine Mixer the fucking
::Catalina Wine Mixer I got you Brian
::I appreciate you.
::I appreciate you.
::I think Van Wilder set the stage.
::Sorry, I had to look something up.
::Van Wilder set the stage for
::like college level comedies.
::Yeah.
::yeah yeah because it went
::van wilder then old school
::then road trip and that is
::our like string of like
::college experience type
::movies where there are very
::specific things that happen
::you don't get you don't get
::accepted without van wilder
::no absolutely yeah so again
::but I just think fucking
::catalina wine mixer I mean
::the moment where he's like
::This guy's going to eat your dick.
::And he goes like, like Kobe option.
::Like that, that part of it.
::The quotes that Doug remembers.
::Right.
::He's my favorite.
::I do want to say something
::that of all the college, all the, like,
::I want to point out Van
::Wilder made it the farthest
::in the bracket in the college division.
::Yeah.
::So I feel like that's something to say.
::Van Wilder wins that contest
::over all the road trip movies.
::So congrats to Ryan Reynolds
::and his team for accepting this award.
::They had no idea they were up for it.
::And Kumar, what's the actor's name?
::Oh, I got to look it up.
::But he was in Van Wilder.
::Yes, he was.
::You ostensibly would not
::have gotten Harold and
::Kumar go to White Castle
::without his appearance.
::He was also in the White House.
::Yeah.
::He was also a staff member.
::Cal Penn.
::Cal Penn, yeah.
::um yeah so I just wanted to
::point that out with van
::wilder so congrats to them
::um we're back to the wayans
::folks we have scary movie
::versus super bad oh man this is tough
::This is tough,
::but you already know where
::the fuck I'm going.
::I'm going to take the lead on this one.
::Go ahead and mark it down, Brian.
::You know exactly where I'm going.
::Scary Movie is getting my vote.
::Just rewatched it.
::We just rewatched it.
::Just talked about it on this podcast.
::Forgot how fucking funny and
::original that movie is.
::The movie is so goddamn
::funny and so bad in a bad
::Mamma Jamma type of way.
::It sparked...
::a series of parody movies of every genre.
::They took it from the Waynes,
::that recipe from the Waynes Bros,
::and they tried to do their
::own shit with Epic Movie
::and all these kind of shit,
::but they couldn't nail the
::same recipe that fucking Scary Movie did.
::Superbad is still good.
::Lots of iconic movies.
::Once again,
::what would I watch and rewatch?
::It's absolutely Scary Movie.
::Absolutely.
::It's so easy.
::It's so easy to go Scary Movie.
::like I just need to say that
::out loud like I do think
::super bad is good capital g
::good really good I kind of
::for the culture too because
::I i do want to say super
::bad did a lot for the
::culture so because I keep
::mentioning that and in the
::time period I was in super
::bad shit make loving all of
::these quotes like it did a
::lot for that time period
::Okay, Brian,
::I have a feeling you're going
::to scary movies.
::So before you change that,
::before you mark that off,
::let me provide you my
::argument for why I'm going
::super bad in this year's election.
::Hold on everybody.
::Wait, what?
::No, for me, I agree with everything that,
::that Marcus said.
::I think that it defined an
::entire genre of like spoof type movies.
::However,
::In term, for me,
::where I give Superbad
::points is its originality.
::What I'm about to say is
::going to sound like a dig, but it's not.
::Scary Movie is a premise
::that is repurposed from a
::comedic perspective.
::Sure.
::What I appreciate about Superbad is...
::For the most part,
::that movie was written by
::Jonah Hill and Evan
::Goldberg and is an original
::thought process.
::Like,
::is their story of their youth that
::they were able to play out
::and put in this format?
::So I think that there's that
::level of originality.
::And then you add on top of
::that some of those other things like...
::like you add in some of
::those other things like
::mclovin and then like the
::two cops the bill hater
::seth rogan cops that like
::take him around like all of
::those things I think for me
::that's why that one's
::getting my vote I have
::pushed back do you want it
::or not I yeah I mean I'm
::fine with it like it will
::probably change your vote
::right it will not change my
::vote yeah okay okay never
::mind don't worry about it
::You were only going to give
::it to me if it was going to
::change my vote.
::I mean, I'm not a fan of like not fighting,
::but I'm not a fan of like
::you like what you like.
::I'm not here to convince nobody.
::Nothing.
::It was just an alternative point.
::I don't know, man.
::Let's fucking get it out there.
::Let's fucking fight about it.
::I mean, let's put it on the fucking table.
::Come on, put this shit on the table.
::We've been diptoting around it for weeks.
::Somebody's going to blow up on this pot.
::I do feel like that there is.
::originality in the way you go about it.
::Doug,
::you've watched I'm Gonna Get You Sucker.
::Doug,
::you've watched Don't Be a Menace in
::South Central while sipping
::your juice on the hood.
::Doug, you've watched Scary Movie.
::These are three Wayne's movies,
::like major hitters in their realm.
::The way that they go about
::comedy and analyzing these horror movies,
::I think pointed out a lot
::of shit that in turn
::sparked a lot of shit in the
::future now if I'm going
::just like funny funny funny
::like I think that this
::their original in their
::approach to it like oh sure
::no no 100 but so yeah that
::was just my only that was
::my only completely agree
::completely agree brian we
::need a winner I know I'm
::gonna look I'm gonna choose
::scary movie and it's a
::tough call and I really
::like super bad's originality
::I love a good satire and
::Scary Movie is a defining
::satire movie that's also a
::good movie to me.
::Superbad is a great narrative format.
::It is a great narrative format.
::Comedy Movie,
::there are some shocking
::things that happen in there.
::I feel like Scary Movie is a
::tighter package.
::That's where I'm at the end of the day.
::I'm with you.
::yeah so I'm not gonna argue
::with you that was tough
::though I killed the darling
::and it's here we are so
::anyway speaking of darlings
::our last matchup the cabal
::that is brian and marcus
::continues but that's fine
::What are you talking about, white chicks?
::Yeah, yeah, what the hell?
::We just collaborated on the last movie.
::Marcus, don't say anything.
::Okay, my bad, sorry.
::We have Mean Girls versus Dodgeball.
::Sorry, sorry, sorry.
::i also like that I called
::you white chicks I mean
::it's fine you go how
::downgraded to go from the
::great white hope to white
::white chicks yeah great
::white hope no you're really
::falling off you guys um
::Yeah.
::I'm going to be honest.
::I'm not even going to answer
::how honest you want me to be.
::I'm going to be honest.
::Mean Girls is funny.
::It is funny.
::It's iconic.
::It is culturally shifted.
::They would not do a
::follow-up musical if it
::wasn't funny to an audience.
::I do think that the taste is
::very specific and it's not for me.
::Like this movie was not made for me.
::So in this matchup,
::I think Dodgeball is for me.
::It is my style of comedy
::through and through.
::And we've already talked
::about how complete that movie feels.
::I'm sticking by that argument.
::Dodgeball for me, very similarly to Marcus,
::if someone says, hey,
::we're going to watch Mean Girls,
::I'll be like, oh, okay.
::But if someone's like, hey, Dodgeball's on,
::I'll be like, oh, sweet, what part?
::You see what I mean?
::For me,
::sit down and enjoy where it's at
::versus I'm not going to go
::and seek it out because
::there's something so specific about it
::that I just am like, eh.
::Everybody did great.
::Lindsay Lohan did fantastic.
::It's a good movie.
::It's too close to a rom-com for me,
::I think, for me to be made for me.
::Are you kidding?
::Uh-oh.
::For Mean Girl?
::Uh-oh.
::A rom-com?
::Because it's all about her
::and the relationship.
::Aaron Samuels.
::What the fuck?
::I'm going to remember that, Brian.
::Like,
::But like, that's, that's where I'm like,
::it's, that's where, because there's,
::there's, there's that port,
::but then there's also, yeah.
::Okay.
::Maybe rom-com was the wrong choice, but no,
::it's fine.
::I'm being indignant because
::mean girls is being knocked
::out and I'm going to make peace with it.
::My dissenting opinion is
::that mean girls just, it's,
::it's stuck with me the moment I saw it.
::And I know it's,
::I know it's Tina Fey comedy
::and you're either out for a
::Tina Fey comedy or
::for everything that means good and bad.
::I just feel like that cast,
::it's such a tight cast.
::It is such, they fire on all cylinders.
::Amanda Seyfried, who is super intelligent,
::by the way, and a great actress,
::plays the dumbest blonde
::you could ever imagine.
::But it works.
::And I just... I don't know.
::I get a lot from that movie.
::I feel like it's funny and intelligent.
::And it has some good purpose to it.
::And at the end of the day,
::it also kind of... I
::just... I like Mean Girls a lot.
::Good luck to Dodgeball and
::the rest of the bracket.
::But there we are.
::That's it.
::Damn.
::Hot damn.
::That's it.
::Because I like to say nice
::things about... Even when
::they don't get picked,
::I like to make sure that I
::say nice things about them.
::Oh, okay.
::I will say...
::that for mean girls I do
::think that it did an
::excellent job of trying to
::capture the high school
::perspective from all angles
::not just the female
::absolutely like it could
::have gone this is called
::mean girls it's for girls
::you won't get it otherwise but it was
::so much about like there is
::a lot in there for like
::younger women to who went
::through maybe a high school
::experience and I'm assuming
::given my perspective I
::don't know given my
::identity but like maybe
::they had similar
::experiences depending on
::high school that they went
::to and so it's super
::relatable um but I think
::that it did a good job of
::being like no no this is
::high school like this is
::just you know that's just
::kind of the way it is so I'm just waiting
::Things will never be the same.
::Our Elite Eight, ladies and gentlemen.
::Talk to her.
::Our Elite Eight is
::40-year-old virgin versus The Hangover.
::We have Meet the Parents
::versus Talladega Nights.
::We have White Chicks versus Step Brothers.
::And then Scary Movie versus
::Dodgeball for next week.
::Holy shit.
::May the bracket have mercy on our souls.
::Brian.
::We might have fucked ourselves here.
::This is going to be...
::There's no more fat on the bone here,
::folks.
::This is it.
::40 Old Virgin versus The Hangover.
::Meet the Fockers versus Talladega Nights.
::That's a five and a four.
::White Chicks versus Step Brothers.
::And then that last one's tough.
::Jesus, these are all hard.
::I guess what we need to
::consider here as a pod is like,
::what are we at this point in
::the elite eight right and
::that's where we are yeah
::yeah what are we
::considering now because it
::can't be what it what it
::was right like oh what's
::funny there has to be a
::different element that's
::added now for this part of
::the pod we'll have to think
::about that yeah like it's
::no answer right now but
::just like just think what
::is comedy I'm kidding
::What is it, really?
::Let's break that son of a bitch down.
::That bracket is updated.
::So long, everybody.
::These will also be posted on socials.
::I'm not looking forward to
::this next week nope no this
::is that's going to be a
::challenge like I am looking
::forward to it because I
::love our discussion but
::also you know you and you
::and marcus will collaborate
::in your separate chat to
::decide how you want the
::bracket to go so okay I
::mean you knocked out two of
::my darlings but it's fine
::it's fine right we all know
::that you and Marcus have an
::elaborate plan to overthrow
::me and establish a new puppet third heat.
::And you got us.
::It is literally I'm going to
::put a puppet over here on
::Maggie's side of the office.
::And you're going to call
::you're going to call Roman.
::You're like, hey, Roman,
::we have an opening for, you know,
::a pod member.
::And I'll be like, what's happening to me?
::And you're like, well,
::I like you know how you
::like scheduling stuff.
::All the time.
::Well, now you can schedule some more shit,
::you dumb bitch.
::Oh my god.
::That's where Brian starts
::cussing at everybody.
::Brian starts cussing me out.
::He's like, yeah,
::I've been saving up this moment.
::Gentlemen,
::let us pivot on over to X-Men 97,
::shall we?
::All 97 of them.
::So as you heard earlier,
::X-Men 97 debuted both
::episodes on Wednesday of last week.
::Wednesdays are big content days.
::Everything dropped.
::A lot of my favorite
::podcasts dropped on Wednesdays.
::X-Men 97 dropped on Wednesday.
::It was just a lot of shit.
::I didn't realize how heavy
::on content Wednesdays are.
::I mean,
::there was a lot of basketball going on,
::too, still.
::We were in the height of
::March Madness stuff.
::I mean, you also know people are at home.
::It's the middle of the week.
::They're not having a ton of fun.
::They got work the next day.
::But gentlemen,
::should we... Where do you want to start?
::Do we do a barbershop
::summary for these first two
::episodes just to provide a
::sense of what happened?
::Or how do you all want to go about it?
::This is a little bit
::different than our usual
::reviews that we usually do.
::I mean,
::I don't think we need to do a
::barbershop necessarily because, I mean,
::we've only had an hour of story,
::basically.
::That's true.
::There's not a lot to summarize.
::13 episodes?
::Yeah.
::So, I mean, I think we can just, I mean,
::for TV,
::I think we can just hit the ground
::running here.
::Yeah, let's do it.
::Then take it away, Brian.
::That first episode, it had a very,
::it's like Star Wars, like,
::a little bit in the realm of, like,
::The Force Awakens of, like, look.
::We understand we have to set
::the stage and also continue
::the story at the same time
::and also acknowledge all
::this other weird stuff that happened.
::And I think they did it.
::I think they did it 90% of the way.
::So taking it off,
::it basically lets you know, yeah,
::it's just been a few months
::since you saw the last episode.
::By the way, no big deal.
::Professor X is dead.
::And that threw me for a loop
::because the last episode...
::Of the one that was in the 90s,
::it was like, bye.
::Professor X was like, bye, everybody.
::I'm going with my space girlfriend.
::And then it cuts to like, anyway,
::Professor X is dead.
::September 20th, 1997 was the last episode.
::It was called Graduation Day.
::Right.
::So I'm wondering if they're
::going to play with that
::expectation a little bit.
::But I'm happy to move on
::from it because we're all
::very well versed in just hashtag comics.
::Like, oh, who knows?
::They'll have some elaborate backstory.
::But I mean, look,
::I want what I wanted from this episode.
::I wanted my X-Men team
::kicking some sentinel ass
::and it delivered.
::And I was happy.
::Like the like that was the
::bar and they met it.
::I don't know how you felt.
::Mm hmm.
::I mean,
::I appreciated it because like it
::both like reinvented itself
::as something distinctly different.
::Yes.
::But hit on the same beats
::that I remember from
::watching the original 30
::years ago and that first
::episode debuting then
::because the first episode is.
::night of the Sentinels where
::they are all chasing Jubilee.
::First episode of this is
::they are all chair chasing
::another mutant that they
::have found and the X-Men
::have to come in and help in
::some capacity.
::But I appreciate,
::so I appreciate what they did with it.
::There's also something about
::the animation with this
::that I like a little bit more too.
::Like, I don't know what it is.
::I think it's, I mean, obviously, you know,
::Going now and going back and watching it,
::there's obviously a little
::bit of a technology jump.
::But it's just so crisp and
::so clean and just so well done.
::So all in all,
::I was really impressed with
::both of these.
::And they are hand-drying those characters,
::which is just absolutely nutty.
::I'll share where that interview was,
::but in the interview, they're like,
::oh yeah,
::we're hand-drawing all the characters,
::save for a few complicated
::background environments or objects.
::They're hand-drawing it all,
::which is just... I think
::that's why it looks so good.
::Yeah, take the time.
::Bring back taking your time.
::I mean, the first two episodes are...
::They're really good.
::And they do something really,
::really special of like,
::it doesn't miss a beat.
::You know what I mean?
::Yeah.
::And that's what they wanted.
::Right.
::I think they said that, like, no,
::this isn't a it's not a reboot.
::It's a follow up to this story.
::And they are still hitting
::on some of those notes that
::of stories we're familiar with.
::Jean busts out the Phoenix
::outfit while she's talking
::and discussing something.
::Magneto's talking about all the things.
::He's being held accountable
::for all the shit that he did beforehand.
::You know, can you trust him?
::Can't you trust him?
::What happens?
::What's going on with Scott?
::There's a clone at the end.
::And I think that it just
::kind of it immediately
::drops you right back into
::why you love this shit.
::Yes.
::Yeah.
::Well,
::and I also feel like X-Men at its
::core is part action series,
::part mouthpiece for
::advocating like not diversity,
::but just like advocating we
::should all be nicer to each
::other and and like embrace
::our differences.
::um and then it's also part
::soap opera and you have to
::be okay with all three of
::those things you know
::exactly what you want yeah
::that's a great point um and
::I because I know for some
::people it was like wow I
::feel like they just kind of
::took some big swings and
::I'm like yup like look jean
::gray can't die before like
::jean gray dies before she
::eats breakfast okay like I
::am expecting some like
::omega level twists every 15
::to 20 minutes yeah
::and I feel like that's why I
::was really happy they did a
::two episode premiere
::because the first episode
::right it's kind of like
::them being like we
::understand what you want
::here it is and then they
::gave you a little bit of
::extra mustard in the form
::of Cyclops I have been a
::Cyclops fan for like 20
::years I have never
::seen a positive response to
::any type of cyclops thing
::unanimously like thank you
::unanimously on maine I'm
::seeing twitter posts where
::people are hot and heavy
::for scott summers what
::timeline am I in like I
::forgot what that tweet said
::they said they would that was hilarious
::Step on me, you giant redwood.
::Yeah, yeah, yeah.
::I remember it.
::Yeah, that was exactly what it was.
::Cyclops, when I was growing up,
::Cyclops was the straight and narrow guy.
::Like, hey, don't do that.
::Make sure you do this.
::And in the show,
::he was kind of like that too.
::But man,
::it's like they ripped off the
::plastic packaging here and it's like, no,
::he's actually like a badass.
::Here's what is interesting to me.
::I think
::the way that they
::reintroduce and introduce
::these characters.
::So like,
::I gotta remember the audience is
::not just us.
::So around this hour age
::range for this podcast, but it is also,
::it has to work and
::introduce these characters
::to new audiences too as
::well that may not be familiar with
::I would love to see.
::I saw somewhere that they
::had a 4 million view
::opening for X-Men 97.
::That's huge for them.
::It's the highest opening of
::any Disney Plus original
::show of that length.
::It is currently the highest
::rated television show of 2024 to date.
::Two episodes.
::Two episodes, right?
::And it's like
::Here's what they did well, I think,
::for me.
::The way that you introduce
::and reintroduce these characters.
::Same voice actors, for the most part,
::everything is pretty much the same.
::There is a joy with Cyclops that is like,
::yes,
::he is the big blue Boy Scout because
::he was Professor Xavier's protege,
::essentially.
::He molded Scott to be the
::leader of the team,
::repping him for this moment.
::There is that Jean and Scott relationship.
::And then there is still that
::Wolverine a little bit has
::animosity about this whole thing,
::Magneto and Rogue.
::Like they did really well
::just introducing the
::characters and their powers
::first and then their
::relationships and how they work.
::Storm and Jean was not
::something that I thought
::was like they made them.
::Storm is calling Jean sister.
::Oh, yes.
::Yeah.
::Yeah.
::That's not something I
::remember in the old show,
::but this is something that
::I like in the new show and
::the way that they depicted
::Omega-level Storm and her powers.
::Holy shit.
::That's the thing that stood
::out the most to me was when
::they were fighting the
::Master Mold in the desert
::and she is striking the
::sand and turning it to glass.
::I was like, holy shit.
::And that's what I think I appreciate.
::It's almost like they left...
::They left the kid, they took the,
::they both,
::it's like they had two kid
::gloves and they took like
::one off and they left the other on.
::Because the one they took off,
::they were like, no, no, no, no, no.
::Like these are Omega level
::mutants that have a powers.
::Yes.
::Scott can take himself,
::shoot down at the ground
::and stop himself from
::falling because that's the
::level of control that he has.
::Yeah.
::Whereas like old school show, Scott,
::like Jean would have been
::like stopping him from
::hitting the ground.
::Yes.
::And he's actually like,
::and then that whole stuff, like all of,
::or Gambit riding Wolverine
::and like putting energy on his,
::like all of this was just so well done.
::But to y'all, to Marcus,
::to your point of like,
::I don't think I would have a
::whole lot of issue of like
::showing like Harrison
::starting to get into the
::old X-Men show a little bit.
::Like,
::I don't think there would be much of
::it where I would have to be like, Ooh,
::maybe not this episode.
::Like I feel like he could
::jump right in and it
::wouldn't be a big deal.
::A hundred percent.
::Yeah.
::To me, my X-Men.
::Oh, they're making simple shit sound.
::Now the next point we get into,
::and I don't know what
::direction y'all want to go,
::but I know the direction I
::want to get into.
::You drive the bus, man.
::I like the fact that they're
::making corny shit like, to me, my X-Men,
::or show them the forecast
::to introduce Storm as she
::comes in and is like, yes,
::that's the campy cartoon
::shit I fucking want.
::Let's stop being so cool and
::stop trying to make our
::superheroes so goddamn down to earth.
::And this shit is a cartoon
::about mutants and advocacy.
::Let's stick to that and do that.
::Yeah, 100%.
::Brian,
::I know you want to talk about them
::falling from a plane.
::So I'm going to go there and
::then we're going to go to the big,
::big point.
::Look, I just want to say we're back.
::We're so back because this
::team of X-Men is in a
::supersonic jet that gets
::exploded in midair and
::Scott Summers is falling.
::He's like, great job, everybody.
::Let's go do the next thing.
::And you're just like,
::these are the messy mutants
::that I've been missing
::since my childhood because
::and I've said this in the
::group chat and I just think
::it's important to say out loud,
::like the Avengers have just,
::they have such a stranglehold on,
::on the culture.
::Like,
::even though they're not at their peak
::power, but like,
::you know what an Avenger is
::and you know what to expect
::from an Avenger.
::And like, they are pristine.
::They're immaculate.
::They're, they're, they're,
::they're going back through time.
::And then you have the X-Men
::and their leader is stoked
::because their plane got blown up.
::And he's like, all right, everybody,
::good job.
::We got here.
::Let's go do the next thing.
::Like it's not like it's no
::thing but a chicken wing here.
::Right.
::And I just I love the tone shift of it.
::And I love that they're
::embracing just how messy
::these people are.
::And we're not trying to clean it up.
::And we're,
::and we're just letting them be people,
::which is one of the reasons
::I feel like people were
::really tuned into this show.
::Like these were people that
::like made mistakes,
::like realistic mistakes and
::had actual feelings.
::I'm not saying that Avengers don't,
::but like you think of that
::Avengers crew and it's
::always for the greater good.
::Like,
::The X-Men are people just
::trying to figure out where
::they are in this world.
::I appreciate that tee up, Marcus.
::Of course.
::I feel like that moment in
::the show is what sets it
::apart from all the other
::superhero teams Marvel talks about.
::Tee up anytime.
::It's jealousy.
::It doesn't look good on you.
::Look here.
::It's not jealousy.
::It's a crusade.
::Well, one thing I'd like to tee you up for,
::Dan, is the first episode is pretty,
::I mean, it's kind of what we expected,
::I would say, more or less.
::Second episode, though,
::I feel like all of us were
::taken a little bit,
::I'm not going to say surprised.
::I was surprised it took a
::turn for the trial of Magneto.
::And the things that episode introduced.
::Talk about it!
::that's the best way to say it.
::Look,
::I'm just going to come out and say it.
::They made a January 6th episode.
::I didn't see it coming, but here I am in,
::on my couch watching the
::trial of Magneto.
::And I'm like, Oh, they just,
::they just legit ripped.
::They just ripped this from
::the current headlines and
::just put it right into the
::trial of Magneto.
::Like,
::And I'm glad they went for
::it because it works.
::He called them bigots.
::He said the word.
::He said the word, you bigots.
::He said, I'll deal you.
::I should burn your asses up.
::He magnetized and lifted their asses up.
::So here's what happens.
::And spoiler alert, you know, obviously.
::Oh, yeah.
::We said that.
::I forgot the villain's name.
::The Executioner.
::The Executioner.
::That's what he calls himself.
::Has a gun.
::And in the gun is the same
::gamma radiation that is in
::the collars that permits
::the X-Men from using their
::powers that they wear around their neck.
::But it's a straight dose.
::In this,
::the Executioner is aiming for Magneto.
::Executioner and his team,
::they go in a storm.
::quote unquote, right?
::They storm the UN as they
::hold this trial against Magneto.
::And the executioner has his
::gun and he's aiming for Magneto,
::but Magneto is working with
::the X-Men and he's trying
::to prove that they can
::trust him and that the UN control,
::because they went and arrested his ass
::on the front lawn of the
::Charles Xavier School of the Gifted.
::And they was like, motherfucker,
::you owe us.
::And so you did some shit to us,
::we're going to put you in handcuffs,
::and we're going to take you to trial.
::So he took his ass to trial.
::Executioner went and aims for Magneto,
::but he hits Storm.
::So Storm... Hold on.
::You are not wrong,
::but I just also want to
::highlight some other really
::important beats that are
::there that I think make these moments...
::like that sort of heightened
::them and taking them to another level.
::Okay.
::Particularly Magneto is not
::like forcibly taken.
::No, he immediately defaults to,
::I'm going to take those
::rotary blades from that helicopter.
::I'm just going to cut you all to pieces.
::But then he looks at the X-Men and he goes,
::guess I have to try to be different.
::And then he willingly turns itself over,
::which leads to this moment
::right before he shot.
::of even when I follow the
::rules yes I am still
::treated like I am not
::someone who deserves the
::rules for me and that's
::something that I thought
::was such like a powerful
::moment because like it's a
::like the january 6th
::allegory is really really powerful and
::works and like they did a
::great job with but what I
::was picking up on was like
::yeah that's big but what I
::was like really like laser
::focused to me is you are
::really putting a distinct
::line in the sand and really
::trying to say something of like
::It has nothing to do with your rules.
::It has nothing to do with the system.
::It has everything to do with
::the fact that you are
::threatened that I will take
::something that you feel
::like you are owed.
::And there is dialogue that
::leaves the executioner's
::mouth when he is fighting
::Scott where he says, I wouldn't care.
::We all have issues.
::You are always complaining.
::Stop whining about it all the time.
::Like,
::If we hadn't agreed, yeah,
::that was a good thing.
::They dialed that rhetoric shit up.
::That fucking neo-Nazi.
::That neo-Nazi is exactly what they did.
::And when I looked up right here,
::because the group that is trying to go,
::because the reason why
::they're storming the
::Capitol is they are
::infuriated that Magneto is
::even getting a trial.
::Friends of humanity.
::because of what exactly.
::And I was looking up in my
::copy of God loves man kills.
::I was like, holy shit.
::Did they pull that directly from there?
::And they didn't.
::Um, it's called the striker foundation.
::Oh, there, but I,
::there was a part of me that was like, man,
::this rhetoric sounds like
::it's pulled like right out of there.
::Like, um,
::So, yeah, this is that was really,
::really well.
::I didn't mean to step on your.
::No, no, no.
::That was like these are like for me,
::like that stuff.
::It was like, holy shit.
::Like that's all makes this
::stuff so much more like palpable of this.
::This isn't just about like
::people blasting laser eyes at each other.
::There is some more complexity here.
::And I think you summed it up
::better than I would have for sure.
::So I'm really glad you
::stepped in because I feel
::like a lot of those
::thematic elements can be
::lost because you're like, oh,
::Magneto is going to do the
::Magnafield thing and
::Storm's making swords out of like steel.
::Right.
::And I feel and I love the rule that, oh,
::it was rad as hell.
::I think it's really
::important that you brought
::out that point that like
::even when they follow the rules, right,
::they're still treated differently.
::And I feel like
::I feel like that part could
::have been underscored even more,
::but I think it's Magneto's speech, right?
::That drives this episode home of like,
::look, I'm going to try to do this.
::Like I'm not your guy, but like,
::do not make me let you down is such a,
::it's such like a line.
::It's such a grandiose double meaning.
::While this master of
::magnetism is holding you in
::the air of just like,
::okay, this guy is trying.
::He's trying, I guess,
::but he's not going to be
::somebody that's walked over.
::He understands the game that is played.
::He knows he's at a
::vulnerability or whatever,
::and I feel like
::don't know it's really hard
::to do that and they did it
::so efficiently in like 30
::minutes of television yeah
::it was quick format um
::there's movies that we've
::reviewed for the podcast
::that haven't done had two
::hours to do that and they
::couldn't do it two hours
::and they were like what
::happened right like devil
::all the time I'm looking at
::you oh um that is the brand
::that's wild as shit
::Brian, I thought the same fucking thing.
::I thought the same thing
::before you said that.
::What a fucking shot to a
::movie from two seasons ago?
::Two seasons ago.
::You can go back to that review.
::You can find all my feelings on it.
::It gets to the point with
::all the whiz-bang and it sticks.
::I think that's the other thing.
::It sticks because...
::I don't know for me I was
::like oh we're doing January
::6th and I was like oh okay
::like this is you know like
::this shows growing up I
::think that's the thing that
::needs that's what I'm
::trying to say the show is
::growing up and that's such
::a rare thing that's just a
::rare thing in media and I
::feel like we're the target
::audience for it so I am
::curious how people who
::aren't the target audience
::like I'm very curious how
::my niece Darby I know
::she'll probably watch it
::very curious how that
::moment is going to land
::with her she's like why
::would you do this like
::why would you like because
::maybe like it's not growing
::up with her right like
::she's seeing it for the
::first time at this point so
::um yeah like it's really
::rare that a show can grow
::up with you and tackle
::these really difficult
::things you're seeing as
::you've grown up and I think
::the other thing that I I've
::appreciated more about this
::is that like my
::like my knowledge has grown
::up with it too.
::Like,
::and there are so many things in there
::that like I picked up on that,
::like we didn't,
::that helps me contextualize
::like where we're at.
::Because I, I asked you all, I was like,
::did they do the master mold
::in the earlier set of things?
::Was that a concept that they
::introduced in the original
::program program in the original show?
::You're going back to the 90s.
::What am I, 86 years old?
::That's a nice little program.
::So the reason why I ask is
::because the X-Men as of now,
::the whole fall of X,
::house of X stuff that's going on,
::there's a pretty big moment
::with the Master Mold being
::tried to be brought back up
::and running again.
::And that's what they're fighting against.
::The difference is it's a
::conglomeration of Hydra, S.H.I.E.L.D.,
::the U.S.
::government,
::and others that are trying to
::bring it up and running again.
::That's another story for another day.
::But I was like, did they do that?
::Or is this brand new?
::But, I mean, you could jump back and forth,
::and your entry point now is, oh,
::they talked about – I saw that.
::I really like X-Men the show.
::Maybe I'll go back and try
::out some stuff that's in a
::book now that I want to see,
::and you wouldn't lose a whole lot.
::The only thing that would be tough is –
::Magneto mentions Genosha and
::Genosha's gone in our
::current X-Men comic book timeline.
::It was destroyed by human beings.
::Marcus,
::do you want to add anything before
::I go on another tear?
::Cause I feel like, okay.
::No, I do not.
::I do appreciate that.
::This episode Magneto was like, yeah,
::I went down and helped the
::Morlocks and sent them to Genosha.
::Why didn't y'all do that before?
::Like, Oh yeah.
::I did appreciate how the
::show was kind of calling
::itself out in a sense of like,
::you have all these resources.
::You have a giant,
::like supersonic stealth jet
::and you can't even help the
::people in the sewers.
::Like what's wrong with you?
::Yeah.
::I enjoyed that.
::And it brought the X-Men in
::their place a little bit.
::Right,
::it does sort of highlight the
::ridiculousness a little bit of like,
::you just continued to let
::them live down there?
::What the fuck is wrong with you?
::It highlights that it's the
::compromise of Charles Xavier.
::He wants,
::or the mission that overshadows
::maybe what the reality is,
::and that's the hard part,
::and the lovable part about X-Men,
::and specifically Charles
::and Magneto's relationship
::for me is like...
::Charles is trying his best, damn near.
::He's putting together his team,
::but he is living and dying
::on the sword of this word,
::and Magneto says it, of coexisting.
::Magneto doesn't even want to
::say the word in the show.
::He's like,
::Magneto has this dream of
::coexisting with the humans,
::and that's just not what he
::wants to fucking do.
::Right.
::as opposed to magneto is
::like well let me send this
::motherfucker like we got an
::island we have the
::resources yeah why don't we
::just leave they don't want
::us here why don't we just
::fucking leave and that is
::sometimes detriment to
::charles xavier in in his
::mission I think it can be
::because he's like you push
::push push push push for
::that but does that make the
::most sense I i liked that I
::like seeing the balance of um
::like the humans and the
::x-men being like yeah this
::is why we decided to trust
::the x-men because of this
::moment and they're still
::earning their trust but
::it's not charles xavier and
::you can kind of see the
::ripple effects of yeah of
::that a little bit yeah yeah
::I thought that that I
::thought that that whole
::dialogue between rogue and
::magneto where he was like
::when they about to fuck
::Right before they started to rock.
::You said we don't have to talk about it.
::No, we have to.
::They wanted to rock the desk.
::Rogue has this line of when
::I was first trying to be
::when we were first friends,
::he was always in my mind.
::Because there's this
::assumption that Magneto
::wears the helmet because he
::doesn't want his thoughts read.
::So when he says this whole line of like,
::no, no, no,
::I wear it because I had to
::sever myself if I was going
::to go to a different part,
::and him constantly just
::checking to make sure I was
::okay was going to fuck me up.
::That, to me, I was like, oh, shit.
::It changes the perspective
::on it so much more of what
::their relationship was
::because it wasn't as...
::adversarial as one would
::think no it's just so I
::appreciate now you kind of
::get it from his context a
::little bit which then
::provides a little bit more
::clarity which I really
::appreciated which which
::shows have to have to do
::more like you have to the
::whole point of charles
::charles and magneto's
::relationship is the thin
::line that it walks of I
::still love that motherfucker
::He is still a mutant and still my brother.
::And we did this work together.
::We just have a disagreement
::on where we see the end
::destination being.
::And that is a very thin,
::but it says a lot to why
::Charles gave it to Magneto
::to challenge him to be better.
::That's what he, that's what he said.
::So I don't know.
::Yeah.
::Yeah.
::I mean, yeah.
::Man,
::they're bringing out those undertones
::of the relationship of
::Professor X and Magneto.
::I'm not going to say it's explicit,
::but I feel like an average
::viewer will be like, were they a thing?
::Maybe not?
::On again?
::Off again?
::I don't know.
::I enjoyed that because I
::feel like bringing that out
::is worthwhile.
::And then let's get into it.
::Then we got Rogue getting
::some magnets shuffled with Magneto.
::That's not what I thought
::you were going to say.
::I would get in.
::Look, man,
::there's a lot of magnet jokes
::you can make.
::But, you know, look,
::I don't think any of us...
::They were touching their poles.
::Magnet poles.
::Look, they... I can't.
::I don't think any of us were
::expecting the magnetism
::between the two of them.
::I think we knew that they
::had a relationship in the comics.
::That was the last thing I
::expected to see in this TV show. 100%.
::I'm kind of surprised that
::they went that route,
::especially because I felt
::like her and Gambit were so
::close to having their moment.
::Even in these first two episodes,
::I was like, no, no, no.
::There's something different
::about the two of them now.
::Like there's something
::distinctly different here.
::So when he comes in and kind
::of throws a wrench in it all,
::it changes things for sure.
::So she just wants to be touched.
::I mean, but again, yeah, I mean,
::Yeah.
::I mean, the reality is it's like,
::I love the fact that they
::didn't just put Rogue in a
::position where she just
::immediately left Gambit.
::One, she challenged Magneto.
::She challenged him and was like,
::you want us to trust you?
::You're going to have to give
::a little bit for us to do that.
::Because, you know, we got history.
::She walked right in there
::and challenged that motherfucker first.
::And that was a large part of
::the reason why he didn't
::just chop their heads off
::at the top of the day.
::He looked at Rogue first.
::And then I'm willing to give
::you a little bit here to
::earn y'all's trust as X-Men.
::He was talking to Rogue directly.
::And so like,
::they didn't just make it seem
::like they went in there and
::got to knocking magnets
::together and like knocking
::shit around and all the
::paper clips is all over the
::goddamn place.
::But like,
::they did actually give it like
::some trust and she wants to be touched.
::She said that in the club scene, like.
::Oh,
::it must be nice to be able to dance on
::the person that you want to fucking touch,
::and although Gambit is
::patient and willing to do that for her,
::that's not all that she needed.
::She needed more,
::and there's only one person
::who can literally chemically,
::physically do that for her,
::and it just happens to be Magneto.
::I do feel like this is
::important for listeners.
::In the comics,
::Magneto can create a barrier of
::magnetism around him.
::A condom.
::So there you go.
::Your magnet condom.
::Look, it's comics.
::Write that down.
::Write that down.
::That's the title.
::Write that down.
::This is the second week in a
::row I say something and
::both of you are like,
::I felt that in my bones.
::Oh my gosh.
::So that's how that happens.
::And Doug, I'm sure,
::could happily inform us of
::other stories involving Rogue.
::Yeah.
::Yeah.
::Thank you.
::Yeah.
::Yeah.
::So.
::There's a whole storyline
::that revolves around... Okay,
::really quick.
::This is peak 90s comics.
::So what I'm about to describe to you,
::if it sounds insane,
::that's because it is.
::So there's a storyline where Legion,
::the son of Professor Xavier
::who has multiple
::personalities and is telekinetic,
::tries to go back in time to kill Magneto.
::What ends up happening as a
::result of that is Professor
::Charles Xavier dies and
::severs this off and creates
::a new reality where
::Apocalypse has risen to power,
::Magneto is leading the X-Men,
::and now he's in charge and
::sort of directing how
::things are going to move
::the way that they move.
::What happens in this
::scenario is Rogue becomes an avid...
::basically one of magneto's
::like big like biggest
::advocates strongest
::fighters she's a big deal
::in this new version of the
::x-men and gambit's working
::alongside her there is a
::moment where they are
::caught in a scenario with
::wolverine because in this
::new reality wolverine is
::working for apocalypse not
::for the x-men oh um and so
::what ends up happening is
::She has to make a choice.
::Who do I save?
::Do I save Magneto?
::Do I save Gambit?
::She saves Magneto,
::and then they have a child together.
::So there's,
::those are things that happen like in this,
::in this world,
::those are things that happen.
::Yeah.
::So that's,
::that's kind of like the
::backstory on that end.
::So very, so again, to Marcus's point,
::you know, if she's young,
::she sees Jean like having
::this future with Scott,
::you have to assume that
::there's some desire there
::to also have that future as well.
::So it just kind of makes me wonder like,
::you know, is that, does she feel that way?
::So that whole,
::like she wants to be touched.
::Yeah.
::I mean, if she's,
::if she wants the things in life, like,
::you know, having that physical relay,
::that physical connection,
::she also wants to be able
::to have children later in life.
::That's a tough call.
::And Magneto showed up at the
::right place at the right time, I guess.
::Great pickup.
::It is a great pickup.
::It's just a great pickup, Doug.
::Good job.
::I mean, I feel like,
::Well, no,
::I have nothing else to add to that point.
::This is the only thing I
::wanted to say about Rogue.
::Say it.
::Don't ever in y'all life again, Fox,
::depict Rogue like y'all did
::in the first three X-Men movies.
::The first one was fine,
::but the second and the third,
::y'all made her so helpless
::that I think it's ridiculous.
::I love the fact that in X-Men,
::the original and X-Men 97,
::Rogue is not that at all.
::Like,
::she is very confident and knows how
::to use her powers.
::Like, even in this one,
::the bigoted doctor that
::didn't want to deliver Jean's baby.
::Right.
::That ability to be able to
::explain their powers to that extent,
::I think is something that I
::appreciate with cartoons
::because you have time to do it, right?
::And it's like...
::You touch the doctor and you, oh, Rogue,
::can you touch the doctor to
::get all of his knowledge so
::that you can deliver this baby?
::While he's talking about something,
::y'all get y'all asses out of here.
::I'm never going to deliver y'all baby.
::Knock his ass out.
::Get all his information.
::Tell him to prep the ER.
::Like,
::I think that that's fire and nothing
::that they really delve into
::outside of making her touch
::just poisonous.
::And I love their depiction
::of rogue and the confidence
::of this X-Men team as they work together.
::Like, it's not right.
::They didn't they didn't kick
::this off with like,
::we got to get our chemistry
::back together because Charles is gone.
::Like, yeah, motherfucker.
::Like, we are still the X-Men.
::Charles is just gone.
::This show goes to die.
::Where sorry, Brian,
::this show goes to die if it
::is a they're getting the
::band back together.
::Yes.
::Sorry.
::That's what I was gonna say.
::No, no, no.
::We're saying the same thing
::because it's refreshing
::that you have this continuation.
::And you don't have like, well,
::we gotta go on a road trip
::and find Gambit.
::Like, we don't need that.
::We know what we're here for.
::Just keep going and
::everybody else can catch up.
::Like,
::so no I we're all saying the
::same thing and it's it's
::refreshing because it's it
::goes back to like this show
::feels like it's growing up
::you have scott and gene
::being like we have a baby
::we can't like hang out at a
::mansion where robots attack
::us you have rogue being
::like I actually would like
::a physical relationship
::with someone that would be
::great like I can be this
::flirty firecracker you're
::knocking me upside my head
::with that refrigerator magnet
::refrigerator magnet let me
::put the helmet on oh man I
::can't recover from this I'm
::trying to pull up not that
::helmet third example I
::can't think of because I'm
::trying to move on um but
::the show's growing up in so
::many great ways magnet
::magnet helmet jokes aside
::Although Doug and I are
::never going to grow the fuck up ever.
::Nope, ever.
::I mean,
::I can't think of a more X-Men way
::to close an episode other
::than having them all stand
::around the living room being like, well,
::that was weird.
::And then the door opens and
::we have a fainting Jean Grey.
::when there's already a Jean
::Grey in the living room.
::My hope is that we get more
::scowls like that from Magneto,
::because that doorbell rang,
::and he was like, who the fuck is that?
::He had this look like
::somebody just backed out,
::tried to back in and out of
::their driveway to turn around.
::He tapped quickly into, this is my house.
::You know what I mean?
::Also, I don't know if I've got to finish.
::Storm does lose her powers.
::How did we miss that?
::The way that they portray
::Storm in this is one of my
::favorites because they
::portray her as this goddess that she is.
::And Magneto says a line
::that's like that too.
::He says, my Storm,
::you are the closest thing
::to a goddess that we will
::ever see in our life.
::And it
::To me,
::I really enjoyed that because it
::does depict the beauty that
::he sees in these mutants.
::They're not just mutants.
::He's like, no,
::you are the closest thing to
::a goddess that we will ever
::fucking see in our life.
::And you are absolutely right.
::But Storm loses her powers.
::And it seems like they're
::going to follow that plot
::line where she falls in love,
::gets her powers back from a
::guy she falls in love with.
::I forgot what his name is,
::but it starts with an F.
::I don't know that one.
::There's a comic run where
::she loses her powers.
::Similar to the same way.
::And then she goes on this adventure.
::Falls in love with this guy.
::Turns out the guy that she
::kind of falls in love with
::built the gun or the energy
::that is in the collar or in the gun.
::And they get into it and
::have a tit for tat.
::Somehow she gets her powers
::back eventually.
::But it seems like that's how
::you get the new Storm with the black
::You know, I mean,
::like black suit storm that
::we I could I could also I
::could also see because I
::think I think what they are
::hinting towards with the
::introduction for those that
::may not know is that I do
::think they are hinting that
::Mr. Sinister is somewhere out there.
::Yes.
::And so for those that don't know,
::Mr. Sinister is like an
::expert geneticist.
::So if anyone could unlock
::the power of getting her powers back,
::she would be able to do it.
::So like.
::There's a part of me that's like, well,
::maybe, you know,
::she goes and gets herself
::involved with the wrong
::person at the wrong time.
::Yeah.
::Desperation.
::That doesn't really seem in
::line with her character.
::So maybe not, but you, you never know.
::I've never had my power.
::That seems more entertaining.
::I,
::I had really mixed feelings when storm
::lost her powers.
::Cause I was like, this is dramatic,
::but like storm is one of my
::favorite characters.
::But then I saw her getting
::on the bus and I was like,
::this means we're getting a
::solo storm story.
::I'm okay with it now.
::Because there's no way
::they're going to leave her
::depowered the entire season.
::She's not going to be
::separated from the X-Men
::for the entire season.
::No way.
::She's going to put that
::white outfit on again.
::That's a thing that'll happen.
::And I remember from the original series,
::she only got maybe two solo episodes.
::And one of them was about her going to...
::Oh my gosh.
::Africa?
::Yep.
::Listener, I promise this is a thing.
::Please, I did not make this up.
::She goes back to Africa and
::she has a son there and she
::like connects with her son.
::I remember that episode.
::And it is, it's bizarre.
::It's weird.
::I think it's a little bizarre.
::It's weird.
::It felt like a filler
::episode but in the worst way possible.
::Anyway.
::I'm glad that this team is
::going to take on a solo Storm story.
::That's my main point here
::because I think we all need that.
::I agree.
::It's a good show.
::Very well done.
::It's got me hooked.
::I'm a little upset that we
::now got to go one episode per episode.
::Oh, man.
::And I kind of wish that they
::would do two every week and kind of like,
::let's get to it.
::They're doing a weird format.
::I'm going to pull it up,
::but it's not only one
::episode a week at parts.
::Oh, okay.
::I'm not mad at that.
::I take back everything I just said.
::Yeah, yeah.
::Fuck what I just did.
::Should have did some research first.
::Yeah, like...
::basically I'll find it I'll
::find it a little bit here
::but basically some weeks
::are gonna be two episodes I
::think one week we get three
::I think um I'll take that
::let me see here how many total
::Episode eight through 10
::will be released in three separate weeks,
::but it's a three part finale.
::No, it looks like it is one week.
::I take it back.
::I totally take it back for some reason.
::I just want to say I did see
::a promo image and maybe I read it wrong,
::but yeah, it's, it's week by week now.
::Is it the one with all the like movie,
::like VHS tapes on like a shelf front?
::That one was ostensibly hard to read.
::That one was difficult to comprehend.
::So I didn't have a stroke.
::No, you didn't.
::The colors didn't work on the background.
::It was just too much.
::It's like they worked too
::well with the 90s format.
::Like, no,
::there's a reason we moved away from this.
::Because I can't read it.
::They had it in Canva, and they were like,
::make it more 90s.
::And Canva was like,
::I don't know if you'll be
::able to read this.
::And they're like, we don't give a shit.
::I just want to say out loud,
::we have a three-part finale.
::That's old school, man.
::I know,
::but the entire month of May is the
::finale.
::So we only have five
::episodes until the finale starts,
::which seems...
::wild to me so I'm really I'm
::I'm hyped I mean I'm ready
::what I like about this is
::that like you know the
::nostalgia in me I mean I
::did see a rumor and maybe
::you all saw this true and
::again rumors taken with big
::giant grains of salt but
::like because of the success
::of this disney is and like
::wondering if maybe like an
::animated spider-man comes
::back fantastic for like all
::90s animated universe
::Right,
::because that was such a good... All
::of that was just so well done.
::That was the height of Marvel animation,
::so seeing what they could
::maybe do with that.
::This is going to bring toys back.
::I just have that feeling.
::I hope so.
::If you take that route,
::I think that you bring
::money and toys back.
::There's an ability to do that.
::Doing it in a movie is one thing,
::but doing it in a cartoon
::stream or in a weekly thing...
::I think you could get some
::shit out of that.
::Go ahead, Brent.
::I'm just so curious that
::people that aren't our
::target demographic between 22 and 45,
::I'm so curious what they
::think of the idea of a 90s universe.
::It's just like, who's that for?
::It's exactly for us,
::the people who are paying
::for Disney Plus currently.
::And everybody else is on our account,
::right?
::So, I mean,
::it's nice to be the target demo.
::I would totally be into a
::continuation of Spider-Man,
::the animated series.
::But I could totally see some, not backlash,
::but people being like, no,
::I'm not doing that.
::Mm-hmm.
::people who are deliberately skipping it,
::right?
::Like they're deliberately
::sending it out so that way
::they don't have to like,
::cause they're like, it's just,
::I don't get it.
::Walking through a toy aisle.
::I mean, they do do some like package.
::I mean,
::you saw it with like when Teenage
::Mutant Ninja Turtles came out,
::there was a resurgence in all of the like,
::cause they had two
::different toy lines that
::they were running.
::They had the retro line and
::all the shit that I love.
::Like when I was younger,
::I can go out to Target and
::with adult dollars by now,
::like I don't have to wait
::for my parents to give it
::to me for Christmas.
::Um, chores or do my chores.
::Um, and I could see them doing something.
::I could see them doing
::something similar with this,
::which is it's like a, okay,
::here's the X-Men 97 line.
::But if you want to have,
::you can probably two
::different versions of Morph.
::One where he has a gray head
::and one where he has the
::old school like human being kind of head.
::Well,
::I have the Wolverine X-Men 97 in the
::other room right now.
::Oh, sure.
::It has the changeable claws
::and the changeable head on it.
::So it's like, you're right.
::What did I do with my adult money?
::I saw the shit that I always
::wanted as a kid.
::I wouldn't have bought that motherfucker.
::I could see them doing more
::of that down the line.
::That's fine.
::I get it.
::Eat it, mom.
::Should have got it for me
::when I was a kid.
::I'm looking at my Funko Pops
::and I feel like I might
::need a Cyclops one.
::I'm there.
::I'm there with you.
::I have to read some comic
::books before I buy anything.
::Dude, I'm sorry.
::I want you to read your age
::of apocalypse issues.
::Tell us the nutty, the nutty concepts.
::It's like there was a moment
::where I was like,
::I have a handle on this.
::And then like I went out and
::bought a few issues and I was like, no,
::I don't like now I'm right
::back where I started.
::I can do this y'all you know
::what it is it's the fucking
::collector in me it's like
::that like fucking Thanos
::I'm like I gotta have all
::of the stones in the right
::order and if I can't get
::that's exactly what this is
::it's like and Marcus has
::been there with me like
::when we've been at the
::comic book store and he's
::like why aren't you getting
::that I'm like because they
::don't have issue 13 but
::they have 12 and 14 15 16
::but they don't have 13 I'm
::not gonna get it now it
::bothers me so much
::That's a story for another day, though.
::Gentlemen,
::anything else that you all want
::to talk before we close this one out?
::Let's jump out of this plane and move on.
::Great job, X-Men.
::Good job, team.
::Gentlemen,
::anything that you all had to
::plug this week?
::I'm typing Color Me Confetti.
::You can find all of her
::printables that you can
::print at your home for your next party.
::That's Color Me Confetti on Etsy.
::Brian, can you just say it again?
::Sorry.
::Sure thing.
::That's Color Me Confetti.
::All one word.
::Go to Etsy.com.
::Put that in the search bar.
::You're going to get some good stuff.
::Absolutely.
::Marcus?
::Make sure you follow the mantra,
::never offended, always humble.
::N-O-A-H for short.
::We love you.
::We need you here.
::Make sure you follow the mantra.
::Go listen to some new music by Soul Tie.
::Listen to some music by Marcus Destin.
::I think...
::At this point of the night, my new niece,
::baby Nova, from Stefan or Snoop.
::Snoop, I think,
::is having his baby tonight.
::And so my new niece, Nova,
::should be in the world.
::So shout out to my niece, Nova,
::and my baby, J-baby, God baby, J-baby.
::Love y'all.
::Congrats.
::Shout out to Snoop, man.
::Congrats, man.
::Gentlemen,
::the only thing I have to plug is
::this podcast,
::so if you enjoyed listening to us,
::share this with a friend or
::a family member.
::It's the best way that we grow.
::Head over to patreon.com
::slash films in black and white.
::Sign up for our Patreon there.
::Love the support.
::But really,
::best thing that you can do is
::the free thing that you can do,
::and that is spreading the
::love and sharing us with a
::friend or a family member.
::We have a three step process to success.
::Brian Roush, what is that first step?
::Hey, folks,
::I want you to read a book and
::like literally it doesn't
::need to be a book, but just read.
::You heard Doug.
::He's collecting comic book issues.
::There's some weird stuff in there.
::go if if our x-men 97
::discussion has spurred in
::anything in you there are
::so many collected editions
::of x-men 2 that you can
::just you can go and get it
::at price books like go get
::the phoenix saga for like
::ten dollars it'll be one of
::the best purchases that
::you'll oh my god just go
::indulge yourself go go read
::some comic books get weird
::with it read a book absolutely
::uh marcus make sure you
::drink some water big dog
::listen I know there's no
::outside where we at but
::that ain't everywhere and
::the sun will come back the
::sun will shine tomorrow so
::make sure you drink water
::and prepare yourself for
::that and if you're gonna
::knock magnet boots you
::gotta you know I mean water
::belongs somewhere in there
::between I don't know but
::somewhere I mean you gotta
::hydrate you gotta hydrate
::yeah you don't want to cramp
::up in anything yeah you
::know yeah you want to you
::lifted the u into the sky
::and then knock boots with
::somebody girlfriend inside
::the house like I know y'all
::be having x orgies or
::whatever it is y'all call
::it but drink some water oh yeah 100 there
::I'm going to be really hung
::up on what they call it.
::Our third step is to wash your ass.
::Look, y'all, as Marcus said,
::it's gross outside here,
::but it is not gross everywhere.
::And the sun will come back.
::And when you start hanging
::out with people in public,
::whether that's going on
::walks or maybe you're
::exercising or maybe you're
::just getting out and about
::having a beer at a brewery outside.
::wash your ass don't take all
::of that stank from inside
::outside into the world with
::you as we get into spring
::y'all it's it's real
::important so be sure to to
::wash your ass uh that does
::it for this week's episode
::of films in black and white
::we'll be back next week
::with another outstanding
::episode uh in the meantime
::and in the between time
::stay safe stay healthy we
::love y'all we appreciate
::y'all we catch y'all next week
::Magnet condoms and XORGs.
::What's the name of that?
::Xerges.
::Xerges?
::I don't know.
::I don't know, man.
::I'm not an X-Men.
::Getting into those genes
::with a G. He got all the
::paperclips of Charles
::Offit's rocking rogue in
::that motherfucker.
::I'll tell you that.
::Orbiting.
::Just orbiting.
::They going crazy in there, boy.
::They can't find a single stapler in that.