What an episode this week... It kicks off with Fintan and Jon discussing their first-ever in-person meeting, which happened at ICE; they also discuss ICE itself, and how Jon thought Fintan would be taller. Conversation switches to the cost of things for exhibitors/price gouging as highlighted in a recent LI post [0:00 - 26:52]. Then in swishes guest Jamie Salsburg to talk SMACK. We get into the branding of RG, why sometimes it's just completely unsuccessful and what can be done about that; we even get into the role of parenting on the next generation of players could mean. This conversation goes many, many places [26:53 - 1:38:10]. 

Enjoy the episode!