GET UNSTUCK IN YOUR LIFE AND BUSINESS – FULFILL YOUR TRUE POTENTIAL! In Episode 77 on the Shining Brightly Podcast Show (links in the comments), titled “Stop Procrastinating in 30 Days”, my amazing guest is Paty Johnson. She is an International Certified Leadership Coach, Trainer and Speaker. It’s been proven that procrastination is the biggest enemy of success and contrary to what it’s believed, procrastination is NOT based on lack of time or organizational skills, but PROCRASTINATION IS DIRECTLY LINKED TO EMOTIONS. Learn about the five types of procrastinators and how to MANAGE AND MAXIMIZE YOUR EMOTIONAL INTELLIGENCE. Please listen, download, share and review this great show that will leave you EMPOWERED TO TAKE ACTION THAT LEADS TO ABUNDANCE!
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About the guest – Hi, I’m Paty Johnston. I help individuals that are tired of not doing what they know they are supposed to be doing and I teach them “How to Stop Procrastinating in 30 Days”. I’m an international leadership coach, trainer, and speaker with a passion for helping people fulfill their true potential. I’ve had the privilege to have trained HUNDREDS of people in more than 20 countries around the world. I started my first business with $2,000 and sold it for $500,000 after less than 2 years. As a Real Estate agent in the US and was ranked in the top 20 agents out of 41,000. I sold more than $20 MILLION dollars in my first year as a Real Estate agent. Now I am a Certified Leadership Coach, Trainer and Speaker with The John Maxwell Team. I am a single mom, with ADD (attention deficit disorder), Dyslexia, born a procrastinator but developed a system based on Emotional Intelligence, Neuroscience and Accountability that changed my life and it will help you overcome it and be successful!! Now you can have my blueprint to implement in your life! If you want to know how to Stop Procrastinating and learn how to: Take control of your finances, Lose weight, Have a more balanced personal/work/family life, Call more potential clients, Sell more, Grow your business, and take control of your life!!
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Howard Brown is a best-selling author, award-winning international speaker, Silicon Valley entrepreneur, interfaith peacemaker, and a two-time stage IV cancer survivor. He is also a sought-after speaker and consultant for corporate businesses, nonprofits, congregations, and community groups. Howard has co-founded two social networks that were the first to connect religious communities around the world. He is a nationally known patient advocate and “cancer whisperer” to many families. Howard, his wife Lisa, and daughter Emily currently reside in Michigan, and his happy place is on the basketball court.
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Hello, it's Howard Brown. It's the Shining Brightly
Howard Brown:Show, we are going to shine so amazingly brightly. I've just
Howard Brown:been recently introduced to Paty Johnson. How are you today?
Paty Johnson:Good morning. I'm excellent. I'm very happy to be
Paty Johnson:here, Howard.
Howard Brown:Wait to you hear her story? Oh, my God, she is
Howard Brown:just got the most amazing story. And she comes all the way from
Howard Brown:Colombia. Now living in the US. Let me tell you a little bit
Howard Brown:more about Paty. She is an international leadership coach,
Howard Brown:trainer and speaker, and she has the passion for helping people.
Howard Brown:Well, that's why you're on my show. Because we all talk about
Howard Brown:lifting up others, of course, you've helped so many people,
Howard Brown:and your specialty is procrastination. And people
Howard Brown:actually don't realise that, that procrastination is
Howard Brown:basically the root of how things don't get done. Right. And so
Howard Brown:you figured out an amazing course to help get people more
Howard Brown:productive, and more positive and get things done in life. And
Howard Brown:that's so important. So I'm just so excited to hear, hear from
Howard Brown:you and share with my audience, your amazing story. So But
Howard Brown:first, tell my audience, something we may not know about
Howard Brown:you that's, you know, you know, always share with people.
Paty Johnson:Well, people hear that I'm an international
Paty Johnson:leadership speaker, and then I go love around the roar. I
Paty Johnson:actually, I'm from Colombia originally, but I live about
Paty Johnson:three or four months of my year in the US. And then I travel the
Paty Johnson:whole world the rest of the year. So people generally say,
Paty Johnson:Oh, my goodness, Paty, your life is a glamorous, it's so amazing.
Paty Johnson:And yes, it is amazing. But what they don't know is I was born a
Paty Johnson:procrastinator. Like people see, like the picture of now. But
Paty Johnson:reality is my favourite word used to be Monyana. Oh, I'll do
Paty Johnson:it tomorrow, next week, or next year, for sure. Next year is my
Paty Johnson:year. So it was not always this rosy. It took me a long, long
Paty Johnson:time to get to where I am today. And that's why I'm so passionate
Paty Johnson:about sharing my story, because I started really, really rough
Paty Johnson:back then. Well, so right you you have the lived experience.
Paty Johnson:So alright, let's dig in that. Let's go in and talk about your
Paty Johnson:story growing up in Colombia, and kind of you know, what the
Paty Johnson:history the tell us tell us about where you came from. And
Paty Johnson:what why you know what happened then? Yeah, so I was born in
Paty Johnson:Colombia, and my parents are absolutely amazing. They're very
Paty Johnson:disciplined, very clean, always on time. And I have a sister,
Paty Johnson:and my sister, not she thinks she's perfect. But she's not
Paty Johnson:perfect power. She's almost perfect.
Paty Johnson:In reality, I was like the opposite. My room was like a
Paty Johnson:mess. It seems like a tornado had gone through every single
Paty Johnson:day. I would do my homework at the last minute, but I would
Paty Johnson:forget it the next day, I would not be on time on my
Paty Johnson:appointment. So my dad, my parents, but especially my dad
Paty Johnson:used to say, oh my goodness, Paty, you're such a mess. I
Paty Johnson:don't know what's going to be your future. I really hope you
Paty Johnson:get a good husband someday, because I don't see how you're
Paty Johnson:going to make it in life. And I remember hearing this in a
Paty Johnson:dinner table. And I was just crushed. I I grew up thinking
Paty Johnson:there was something really, really wrong with me. And on top
Paty Johnson:of it all I got pregnant when I was a teenager. So my Colombian
Paty Johnson:parents almost had a heart attack and they were like potty
Paty Johnson:now for real, you'd ruin your life. So I came to the US as a
Paty Johnson:single mom, my son was three years old at the time. And I
Paty Johnson:felt tired. I was like, you know, I feel stuck. I know I
Paty Johnson:have a very good high god given potential. And I just feel like
Paty Johnson:I was like an 40% of my potential. Like, I do. I do. I
Paty Johnson:do, but I don't get results. I was working long hours I was
Paty Johnson:getting underpaid. And I just feel tired. And I thought you
Paty Johnson:know what I there has to be something that I can fix. So I
Paty Johnson:decided to study psychology just to fix myself. And I discover
Paty Johnson:that procrastination is not linked to lack of time.
Paty Johnson:We all have time, but procrastination is directly
Paty Johnson:linked to emotions. Procrastination is directly
Paty Johnson:linked to emotions. So when you're afraid, you don't do
Paty Johnson:things. When you feel overwhelmed, you paralyse. I was
Paty Johnson:anxious, I was angry. Many people that said the wrong
Paty Johnson:things to me, I was angry at myself, because I knew exactly
Paty Johnson:what to do. And I was still not doing it. And it's been proven
Paty Johnson:that procrastination is the biggest enemy of success.
Paty Johnson:Procrastination is the biggest enemy of success. So I decided
Paty Johnson:to study and I created a system that helped me overcome
Paty Johnson:procrastination, negative emotions, through emotional
Paty Johnson:intelligence. And so I'd say I took 30 days to work on myself.
Paty Johnson:And after the 30 days, oh, my goodness, Howard, I fail strong.
Paty Johnson:I'm like, okay, I can make this happen. So I decided to open my
Paty Johnson:own business, I had some savings. And somebody said, oh,
Paty Johnson:so and so is selling a business for $2,000. I'm like, Oh, I have
Paty Johnson:$2,000. So I opened my own business. And I was able to sell
Paty Johnson:it. 18 months later, I bought it for $2,000. And I sold it for
Paty Johnson:500,000.
Paty Johnson:Just a year and a half later, I couldn't believe it. I've never
Paty Johnson:seen that much money altogether. A single mom from Colombia, I
Paty Johnson:had little money I come My background is not from wealth.
Paty Johnson:So I didn't, you know, I had to beg to for my dad to give me new
Paty Johnson:shoes every year. So I just couldn't believe I had all this
Paty Johnson:money. And I discovered by the way that I had a DD attention
Paty Johnson:deficit disorder, and mild dyslexia. So I had everything
Paty Johnson:against me. And I sold this business for a lot of money.
Howard Brown:So I want to tell you, Paty, so yeah, that's,
Howard Brown:that's so impressive. Because, you know, my book, and my story
Howard Brown:is about that we all get knocked down in life, and in business,
Howard Brown:and especially in relationships, right. And we have to find a way
Howard Brown:to pick ourselves up again. And it took you a while. It just, it
Howard Brown:didn't happen overnight. It took you a while. And you also got
Howard Brown:pregnant as a young teenager, you came to this us really with
Howard Brown:nothing, nothing, built it back up. So all I can say is that
Howard Brown:that is so inspirational, because it can be done and
Howard Brown:living proof that it can be done. I am living proof that and
Howard Brown:so it's amazing. And so you sold that business, and I think you
Howard Brown:went into real estate after
Paty Johnson:Yeah, so I sold that business. And then I became
Paty Johnson:a real estate agent. I started investing in real estate, and my
Paty Johnson:broker back then said, all party, there are 44,000 realtors
Paty Johnson:in Tampa alone. It's gonna take you a long time to sell a house
Paty Johnson:or to online. Okay, I didn't tell him this is what I'm like,
Paty Johnson:I have a system that's helping me make the stuff get done. So
Paty Johnson:Oh, my first year out of the 44,000 realtors out of the
Paty Johnson:44,000 I got ranked number 10. I couldn't believe when I got a
Paty Johnson:message saying congratulations on like, wow, my system works.
Paty Johnson:So I open up my own real estate firm. Because a lot of people
Paty Johnson:were just like, please, please, I want to be part of your team.
Paty Johnson:And it was then I sold my business. My second business for
Paty Johnson:even more money than the first one. My after two years. I sold
Paty Johnson:it for a lot of money. Well, you are procrastinator to now go
Paty Johnson:getter? Yes. Right. Yeah. And then you followed your system.
Paty Johnson:And then you wanted to share it with others. So before we do
Paty Johnson:that, I there's got it you I think there's different types of
Paty Johnson:procrastinators go through and tell us the different types of
Paty Johnson:procrastinators. Yeah, it's very interesting, however, because
Paty Johnson:people think that procrastination is laziness,
Paty Johnson:right? Like, people are like, you just don't know what to do,
Paty Johnson:or you're just lazy, which is absolutely not true. Excellent.
Paty Johnson:Procrastination looks very different to many people. And
Paty Johnson:there are five types of procrastination. So if you're
Paty Johnson:listening, if you're one of them, you know, there's a
Paty Johnson:solution for each one of them. So the first one is
Paty Johnson:perfectionist, ah, not gonna do it until it's perfect until it's
Paty Johnson:good enough. So perfectionism is a big blockage, because you
Paty Johnson:don't take action because you're afraid of how he's going to
Paty Johnson:look. afraid of failure afraid, afraid of judgement from others.
Paty Johnson:So that's the first style perfectionism. The second one,
Paty Johnson:dear devils, like that was the queen of the daredevils So
Paty Johnson:Daredevil was the person that has one month to complete a
Paty Johnson:project. And when do they do it? Well, last day, now you before
Paty Johnson:of course. And then you'd like to rush in it and the computer
Paty Johnson:breaks and the card breaks. I mean, it's very stressful. And I
Paty Johnson:used to be that so that's the second type that they're devils.
Paty Johnson:The third ones. Oh, the chickens. And I love the
Paty Johnson:chickens. I'm gonna tell you why. Because the chickens are
Paty Johnson:the doors. They do do do all day. They're busy. And they come
Paty Johnson:to me and they're like, Paty, I'm definitely not a
Paty Johnson:procrastinator. Can you see? I'm doing a lot during my day. But
Paty Johnson:the problem is, the chickens are busy, but not productive, busy,
Paty Johnson:but not productive. So yes, they do a lot during the day, but
Paty Johnson:they don't know how to prioritise. So basically, they
Paty Johnson:keep themselves busy with the easy tasks, just to avoid the
Paty Johnson:ones that are actually crucial. So that's the third one, by the
Paty Johnson:way, I was combination of all of them.
Paty Johnson:Therefore, one is the ostrich. The ostrich is the avoidant. The
Paty Johnson:dreamer. Oh my goodness, the ostrich is a millionaire in
Paty Johnson:their mind. But they don't take action, because they're afraid
Paty Johnson:of taking risks and afraid of failure. So the ostrich lives in
Paty Johnson:a bubble. Nice life. But no oxygen, ostrich puts their head
Paty Johnson:in the sand. Ah, absolutely. They don't want to face reality.
Paty Johnson:Everything's good. Everything's good when everything's crumbling
Paty Johnson:down. So that's the fourth one. And the fifth one is the self
Paty Johnson:saboteur. This self saboteur. So the self saboteur is the one
Paty Johnson:that knows exactly what to do. And either don't do it. Or they
Paty Johnson:do the opposite. They don't do it, or they do the opposite. And
Paty Johnson:this is very frustrating, because you're your worst enemy,
Paty Johnson:you are the one blocking your own success. So there's actually
Paty Johnson:a way to find out what type of procrastinator you are, we're
Paty Johnson:gonna we're gonna do something special for your audience today.
Paty Johnson:And then there's a way to fix it through emotional intelligence,
Paty Johnson:and neuroscience, which is commanding learning to command
Paty Johnson:your own brain.
Howard Brown:We're gonna get there. I like that. So a couple
Howard Brown:of you've helped a lot of people. Are there any examples,
Howard Brown:a couple of examples of standout things that you've taken in to
Howard Brown:help people you could share?
Paty Johnson:Yeah, I've seen it all. I was the worst of the
Paty Johnson:worst. So what I tell people anyone listening is, I'm no
Paty Johnson:better than you. I'm no better than anyone. And I was able to
Paty Johnson:make it. So there's hope. And I get a lot of solopreneurs
Paty Johnson:business owners, coaches, people that have a lot on their plate,
Paty Johnson:right. When you're an employee, you like, you know, you go to
Paty Johnson:805, and nine to five, or whatever. When you have your own
Paty Johnson:business, you are everything, you're the sales manager, you're
Paty Johnson:the CEO, you're the you know, you have to do it all. And it
Paty Johnson:can get very overwhelming, because it's all that plus home
Paty Johnson:plus you. So I get a lot of people that either they have a
Paty Johnson:job, but they're trying to open their own business, or they
Paty Johnson:already have their own business and they're not making the money
Paty Johnson:they want to make. They feel that at home, they're not being
Paty Johnson:productive, the house is full of projects that have not been
Paty Johnson:done. And I don't know you, but when you're a giver, when you
Paty Johnson:have a heart to give, and I know you do, then you start giving
Paty Johnson:everything to everyone else, any all of a sudden go back last on
Paty Johnson:your list. So I get a lot of good parents, a lot of good
Paty Johnson:moms, single parents, because I was one where you give, give,
Paty Johnson:give and at the end you're drained, because you didn't put
Paty Johnson:yourself first. So I get a lot of solopreneurs business owners,
Paty Johnson:a lot of moms, a lot of dreamers. A lot of people that
Paty Johnson:are like, I don't like my job, Paty, and I have this great
Paty Johnson:idea. I have a business idea. And it's been there forever. So
Paty Johnson:it is important when you have that and in by the way, my my
Paty Johnson:oldest client was 85 years old. And she came to me it's lovely
Paty Johnson:lady, and she's like, I've always wanted to have a
Paty Johnson:photography business. And she's like, and I don't want to die
Paty Johnson:without making it happen. So she took my course in 30 days you
Paty Johnson:launched it, and now as you make really good money, so it's never
Paty Johnson:too late. If you have a dream if you have something in your
Paty Johnson:heart, and you feel overwhelmed, when you have a lot on your
Paty Johnson:plate, that's a good time for you to actually want help.
Howard Brown:It's amazing because the word you said to
Howard Brown:lead off telling that example was that you give people hope.
Howard Brown:The last chapter of my book is sharing hope. And the fact that
Howard Brown:you do that is really an incredible thing. It's a great
Howard Brown:quality to be able to, because I actually say I lead a resilient
Howard Brown:life with hope, and hope is the fuel that gets you there. And
Howard Brown:you give people that fuel. And I love that. And even an 85 year
Howard Brown:old woman that wanted to pursue her dreams of photography, she
Howard Brown:just sometimes you need a little nudge, a little push.
Paty Johnson:Yeah. we all do
Howard Brown:we absolutely do. And it's really important. And
Howard Brown:you've, you've been all over the world. And unfortunately,
Howard Brown:procrastination. It could. It's anyone, right? It's not, it's
Howard Brown:not it doesn't have any real, you know, particular type. But
Howard Brown:we all get bogged down. Right. We all do. And again, from from
Howard Brown:people that are giving people that are overly ambitious, we
Howard Brown:all do we take on too much. And then then nothing gets done. And
Howard Brown:so Oh, this is incredible. I have any other any other
Howard Brown:examples you want to share? 85 year old and what's a cool
Howard Brown:success story?
Paty Johnson:Oh, my goodness. So I got one of my ladies, I
Paty Johnson:have so many. But there was a lady that came to me. She's a
Paty Johnson:CPA. And she's like, Paty, I have you know, I'm about to
Paty Johnson:close my business. I don't have many clients. And I don't know
Paty Johnson:why. But I'm really good. And I just don't know what my strategy
Paty Johnson:isn't that something's not working. And it happens that
Paty Johnson:when you feel bad about yourself, that is a reflection
Paty Johnson:on everything around you, like your house doesn't look good.
Paty Johnson:The number of clients you have, are not a reflection of it's a
Paty Johnson:reflection of how we feel. So we basically work on herself, and
Paty Johnson:her mindset, how she saw yours or herself back then. And we
Paty Johnson:work on increasing her emotional intelligence. And she said, she
Paty Johnson:finished the course 30 days after and then she calls me 10
Paty Johnson:months later, and she like Paty, look at my sales. She grew her
Paty Johnson:business 600%. I'm like, is that a typo? Is that a 60% increase
Paty Johnson:on sales. And she's like, Paty 600. So it's a beautiful story,
Paty Johnson:you can actually increase yourselves, you can actually
Paty Johnson:have her and I have people that come to me and like I want to
Paty Johnson:work on my health. overweight, I haven't been. Actually I have
Paty Johnson:one client right now. She texts me every single day, her tennis
Paty Johnson:shoes by the park, because he's walking every single day after
Paty Johnson:she drops her kids off. So it's a beautiful story.
Howard Brown:Oh, she sent you her steps.
Paty Johnson:Every single step is or single day and then she
Paty Johnson:that she's she's very over her way right now. But now she's
Paty Johnson:there's hope. She's making it happen. And I love it. I love it
Paty Johnson:making the goals and it's important. So give me your
Paty Johnson:definition of emotional intelligence. People hear the
Paty Johnson:buzzword, but how do you define emotional intelligence? Yeah, so
Paty Johnson:actually, we've been lied before, we were told, if you
Paty Johnson:have a very high IQ, intelligence quotient, then
Paty Johnson:you're gonna make it in life. But that's not true. It's been
Paty Johnson:proven actually, success comes 85% from EQ, emotional
Paty Johnson:intelligence. And emotional intelligence is divided in four
Paty Johnson:quadrants. The first one is awareness of emotions, awareness
Paty Johnson:of emotions, and most of us are like, Oh, I'm happy, I'm tired,
Paty Johnson:exhausted. But there's actually hundreds of emotions that we
Paty Johnson:experienced during only one day we go up and down. So it's very
Paty Johnson:important. That's point number one, to be aware of your
Paty Johnson:emotions. Point number two, to learn how to regulate those
Paty Johnson:emotions. Only once you're aware of your emotions, you can
Paty Johnson:regulate them. My days used to go up and down happy, not happy,
Paty Johnson:disappointed, happy again. And it's very important to learn how
Paty Johnson:to regulate so that your days have control, that your emotions
Paty Johnson:are not controlling you, but that you are controlling your
Paty Johnson:emotions. So that is the self part. And there's a social part
Paty Johnson:in it to understand other people's emotions. Very
Paty Johnson:important when you're in sales very important when you're in
Paty Johnson:business. Well, in relationships, obviously at home
Paty Johnson:is very important to be aware of other people's emotions, and you
Paty Johnson:cannot control any oh my goodness, I discovered that
Paty Johnson:after many years of trying. So you cannot control anyone else's
Paty Johnson:emotions, but you're able to not only be aware, but learn how to
Paty Johnson:respond to those emotions. So that's emotional intelligence on
Paty Johnson:your side and to be able to relate to others on the
Paty Johnson:emotional side.
Howard Brown:I don't know about you, but everyone, it just
Howard Brown:taught a little masterclass, you know. So, this is awesome. Well,
Howard Brown:where we're at that time of the show, we're gonna ask you to put
Howard Brown:on your sunglasses. Okay. So this is where we do the shining
Howard Brown:brightly spotlight, and I shine the spotlight on you, I want you
Howard Brown:to tell the listening audience or the viewing audience, how to
Howard Brown:get a hold of you. And we'll about and then you have a free
Howard Brown:gift you want to share with them. So that's exciting, and
Howard Brown:then share some inspirational inspiration with me, and then
Howard Brown:I'll close out the show.
Paty Johnson:Lovely. So basically, I'm gonna do
Paty Johnson:something very special for your audience. Two special things. If
Paty Johnson:you want to talk about if you're struggling with procrastination,
Paty Johnson:if you want to create a plan, I will happily talk to you at no
Paty Johnson:cost. You can text me, I love text messages. It's at eight one
Paty Johnson:three in the US. 813-789-1097 Send me a text message saying
Paty Johnson:I'm in and I'm coming with Shiny Brightly with from Howard's
Paty Johnson:podcast. So that I know is from you. At 813-789-1097 My website
Paty Johnson:is stopprocrastinatingtoday.com Stop procrastinating today dot
Paty Johnson:calm. And actually we're gonna post a chorus because we were
Paty Johnson:talking about this five types of procrastination. So if you are
Paty Johnson:curious, and you want to know what your type of
Paty Johnson:procrastination is, we're going to put a link below so you can
Paty Johnson:just click on it, and then just find out what your type is. And
Paty Johnson:if you want to talk about it after just text me at
Paty Johnson:813-789-1097.
Paty Johnson:And the inspirational part, I'm gonna say we hear a lot. Oh,
Paty Johnson:it's good to dream. And if you dream it, you'll achieve it. And
Paty Johnson:I love dreaming, obviously. But without action, dreams stay
Paty Johnson:there. So what I say is, action brings abundance. action brings
Paty Johnson:abundance. I had a dream to someday see the world, I had a
Paty Johnson:dream to have my own business, I had a dream of getting unstuck.
Paty Johnson:But it was only when I took action when my life changed. So
Paty Johnson:if you're ready to take action, and you don't even know where to
Paty Johnson:start, just send me a message. You got to start with one step.
Howard Brown:Oh, that is so beautiful. I'll take off our
Howard Brown:glasses. Now I want to tell you, everyone should reach out to you
Howard Brown:for to come and speak at their event or their cooperation,
Howard Brown:obviously, your coaching and then certainly check out your
Howard Brown:course. So you have so much to offer. And I love that you're
Howard Brown:helping people get unstuck and moving forward in their lives or
Howard Brown:in their business. It's just truly amazing. This has been an
Howard Brown:incredible show. And I want to thank some of the people that
Howard Brown:have gotten me there. So my publishing house front edge
Howard Brown:publishing, readthespirit.com the amplifyou as my podcast
Howard Brown:team, and they helped me get through and be able to reach
Howard Brown:people in a positive manner. And of course, I can be reached at
Howard Brown:shiningbrightly.com. And there my book is all there. It's my
Howard Brown:amazing story that helps lift up others. And then I had to have a
Howard Brown:speaker be glad to come to your nonprofit or your business and
Howard Brown:and help motivate, educate and inspire. And then this podcast
Howard Brown:is fed there and then on 24 different channels. And also I'm
Howard Brown:very proud about my advocacy and helping the people in the cancer
Howard Brown:world. Entrepreneurs with mentorship and leadership. And
Howard Brown:lastly, interfaith relations. So all stuff to come check me out
Howard Brown:and I'm interactive, just like Paty, I'll get back to you
Howard Brown:personally. And we'll help each other out. So just remember, if
Howard Brown:we choose to shine brightly a little bit each day, like Paty
Howard Brown:does and helps others, okay. And we lift up ourselves. We use our
Howard Brown:light to lift up ourselves and then lift up others, the world
Howard Brown:will be a better place. Paty, it's been extraordinary. Thank
Howard Brown:you. I'm so grateful to have you as a guest today.
Paty Johnson:Thank you. I'm grateful for being here. Thank
Paty Johnson:you so much for what you do.
Howard Brown:Excellent. keep shining. Thank you