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STOP PROCRASTINATING IN 30 DAYS With Paty Johnson
Episode 771st May 2024 • Shining Brightly • Howard Brown
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GET UNSTUCK IN YOUR LIFE AND BUSINESS – FULFILL YOUR TRUE POTENTIAL! In Episode 77 on the Shining Brightly Podcast Show (links in the comments), titled “Stop Procrastinating in 30 Days”, my amazing guest is Paty Johnson. She is an International Certified Leadership Coach, Trainer and Speaker. It’s been proven that procrastination is the biggest enemy of success and contrary to what it’s believed, procrastination is NOT based on lack of time or organizational skills, but PROCRASTINATION IS DIRECTLY LINKED TO EMOTIONS. Learn about the five types of procrastinators and how to MANAGE AND MAXIMIZE YOUR EMOTIONAL INTELLIGENCE. Please listen, download, share and review this great show that will leave you EMPOWERED TO TAKE ACTION THAT LEADS TO ABUNDANCE! 

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About the guest – Hi, I’m Paty Johnston. I help individuals that are tired of not doing what they know they are supposed to be doing and I teach them “How to Stop Procrastinating in 30 Days”. I’m an international leadership coach, trainer, and speaker with a passion for helping people fulfill their true potential. I’ve had the privilege to have trained HUNDREDS of people in more than 20 countries around the world. I started my first business with $2,000 and sold it for $500,000 after less than 2 years. As a Real Estate agent in the US and was ranked in the top 20 agents out of 41,000. I sold more than $20 MILLION dollars in my first year as a Real Estate agent. Now I am a Certified Leadership Coach, Trainer and Speaker with The John Maxwell Team. I am a single mom, with ADD (attention deficit disorder), Dyslexia, born a procrastinator but developed a system based on Emotional Intelligence, Neuroscience and Accountability that changed my life and it will help you overcome it and be successful!! Now you can have my blueprint to implement in your life! If you want to know how to Stop Procrastinating and learn how to: Take control of your finances, Lose weight, Have a more balanced personal/work/family life, Call more potential clients, Sell more, Grow your business, and take control of your life!!

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Howard Brown is a best-selling author, award-winning international speaker, Silicon Valley entrepreneur, interfaith peacemaker, and a two-time stage IV cancer survivor. He is also a sought-after speaker and consultant for corporate businesses, nonprofits, congregations, and community groups. Howard has co-founded two social networks that were the first to connect religious communities around the world. He is a nationally known patient advocate and “cancer whisperer” to many families. Howard, his wife Lisa, and daughter Emily currently reside in Michigan, and his happy place is on the basketball court.

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Howard Brown:

Hello, it's Howard Brown. It's the Shining Brightly

Howard Brown:

Show, we are going to shine so amazingly brightly. I've just

Howard Brown:

been recently introduced to Paty Johnson. How are you today?

Paty Johnson:

Good morning. I'm excellent. I'm very happy to be

Paty Johnson:

here, Howard.

Howard Brown:

Wait to you hear her story? Oh, my God, she is

Howard Brown:

just got the most amazing story. And she comes all the way from

Howard Brown:

Colombia. Now living in the US. Let me tell you a little bit

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more about Paty. She is an international leadership coach,

Howard Brown:

trainer and speaker, and she has the passion for helping people.

Howard Brown:

Well, that's why you're on my show. Because we all talk about

Howard Brown:

lifting up others, of course, you've helped so many people,

Howard Brown:

and your specialty is procrastination. And people

Howard Brown:

actually don't realise that, that procrastination is

Howard Brown:

basically the root of how things don't get done. Right. And so

Howard Brown:

you figured out an amazing course to help get people more

Howard Brown:

productive, and more positive and get things done in life. And

Howard Brown:

that's so important. So I'm just so excited to hear, hear from

Howard Brown:

you and share with my audience, your amazing story. So But

Howard Brown:

first, tell my audience, something we may not know about

Howard Brown:

you that's, you know, you know, always share with people.

Paty Johnson:

Well, people hear that I'm an international

Paty Johnson:

leadership speaker, and then I go love around the roar. I

Paty Johnson:

actually, I'm from Colombia originally, but I live about

Paty Johnson:

three or four months of my year in the US. And then I travel the

Paty Johnson:

whole world the rest of the year. So people generally say,

Paty Johnson:

Oh, my goodness, Paty, your life is a glamorous, it's so amazing.

Paty Johnson:

And yes, it is amazing. But what they don't know is I was born a

Paty Johnson:

procrastinator. Like people see, like the picture of now. But

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reality is my favourite word used to be Monyana. Oh, I'll do

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it tomorrow, next week, or next year, for sure. Next year is my

Paty Johnson:

year. So it was not always this rosy. It took me a long, long

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time to get to where I am today. And that's why I'm so passionate

Paty Johnson:

about sharing my story, because I started really, really rough

Paty Johnson:

back then. Well, so right you you have the lived experience.

Paty Johnson:

So alright, let's dig in that. Let's go in and talk about your

Paty Johnson:

story growing up in Colombia, and kind of you know, what the

Paty Johnson:

history the tell us tell us about where you came from. And

Paty Johnson:

what why you know what happened then? Yeah, so I was born in

Paty Johnson:

Colombia, and my parents are absolutely amazing. They're very

Paty Johnson:

disciplined, very clean, always on time. And I have a sister,

Paty Johnson:

and my sister, not she thinks she's perfect. But she's not

Paty Johnson:

perfect power. She's almost perfect.

Paty Johnson:

In reality, I was like the opposite. My room was like a

Paty Johnson:

mess. It seems like a tornado had gone through every single

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day. I would do my homework at the last minute, but I would

Paty Johnson:

forget it the next day, I would not be on time on my

Paty Johnson:

appointment. So my dad, my parents, but especially my dad

Paty Johnson:

used to say, oh my goodness, Paty, you're such a mess. I

Paty Johnson:

don't know what's going to be your future. I really hope you

Paty Johnson:

get a good husband someday, because I don't see how you're

Paty Johnson:

going to make it in life. And I remember hearing this in a

Paty Johnson:

dinner table. And I was just crushed. I I grew up thinking

Paty Johnson:

there was something really, really wrong with me. And on top

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of it all I got pregnant when I was a teenager. So my Colombian

Paty Johnson:

parents almost had a heart attack and they were like potty

Paty Johnson:

now for real, you'd ruin your life. So I came to the US as a

Paty Johnson:

single mom, my son was three years old at the time. And I

Paty Johnson:

felt tired. I was like, you know, I feel stuck. I know I

Paty Johnson:

have a very good high god given potential. And I just feel like

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I was like an 40% of my potential. Like, I do. I do. I

Paty Johnson:

do, but I don't get results. I was working long hours I was

Paty Johnson:

getting underpaid. And I just feel tired. And I thought you

Paty Johnson:

know what I there has to be something that I can fix. So I

Paty Johnson:

decided to study psychology just to fix myself. And I discover

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that procrastination is not linked to lack of time.

Paty Johnson:

We all have time, but procrastination is directly

Paty Johnson:

linked to emotions. Procrastination is directly

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linked to emotions. So when you're afraid, you don't do

Paty Johnson:

things. When you feel overwhelmed, you paralyse. I was

Paty Johnson:

anxious, I was angry. Many people that said the wrong

Paty Johnson:

things to me, I was angry at myself, because I knew exactly

Paty Johnson:

what to do. And I was still not doing it. And it's been proven

Paty Johnson:

that procrastination is the biggest enemy of success.

Paty Johnson:

Procrastination is the biggest enemy of success. So I decided

Paty Johnson:

to study and I created a system that helped me overcome

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procrastination, negative emotions, through emotional

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intelligence. And so I'd say I took 30 days to work on myself.

Paty Johnson:

And after the 30 days, oh, my goodness, Howard, I fail strong.

Paty Johnson:

I'm like, okay, I can make this happen. So I decided to open my

Paty Johnson:

own business, I had some savings. And somebody said, oh,

Paty Johnson:

so and so is selling a business for $2,000. I'm like, Oh, I have

Paty Johnson:

$2,000. So I opened my own business. And I was able to sell

Paty Johnson:

it. 18 months later, I bought it for $2,000. And I sold it for

Paty Johnson:

500,000.

Paty Johnson:

Just a year and a half later, I couldn't believe it. I've never

Paty Johnson:

seen that much money altogether. A single mom from Colombia, I

Paty Johnson:

had little money I come My background is not from wealth.

Paty Johnson:

So I didn't, you know, I had to beg to for my dad to give me new

Paty Johnson:

shoes every year. So I just couldn't believe I had all this

Paty Johnson:

money. And I discovered by the way that I had a DD attention

Paty Johnson:

deficit disorder, and mild dyslexia. So I had everything

Paty Johnson:

against me. And I sold this business for a lot of money.

Howard Brown:

So I want to tell you, Paty, so yeah, that's,

Howard Brown:

that's so impressive. Because, you know, my book, and my story

Howard Brown:

is about that we all get knocked down in life, and in business,

Howard Brown:

and especially in relationships, right. And we have to find a way

Howard Brown:

to pick ourselves up again. And it took you a while. It just, it

Howard Brown:

didn't happen overnight. It took you a while. And you also got

Howard Brown:

pregnant as a young teenager, you came to this us really with

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nothing, nothing, built it back up. So all I can say is that

Howard Brown:

that is so inspirational, because it can be done and

Howard Brown:

living proof that it can be done. I am living proof that and

Howard Brown:

so it's amazing. And so you sold that business, and I think you

Howard Brown:

went into real estate after

Paty Johnson:

Yeah, so I sold that business. And then I became

Paty Johnson:

a real estate agent. I started investing in real estate, and my

Paty Johnson:

broker back then said, all party, there are 44,000 realtors

Paty Johnson:

in Tampa alone. It's gonna take you a long time to sell a house

Paty Johnson:

or to online. Okay, I didn't tell him this is what I'm like,

Paty Johnson:

I have a system that's helping me make the stuff get done. So

Paty Johnson:

Oh, my first year out of the 44,000 realtors out of the

Paty Johnson:

44,000 I got ranked number 10. I couldn't believe when I got a

Paty Johnson:

message saying congratulations on like, wow, my system works.

Paty Johnson:

So I open up my own real estate firm. Because a lot of people

Paty Johnson:

were just like, please, please, I want to be part of your team.

Paty Johnson:

And it was then I sold my business. My second business for

Paty Johnson:

even more money than the first one. My after two years. I sold

Paty Johnson:

it for a lot of money. Well, you are procrastinator to now go

Paty Johnson:

getter? Yes. Right. Yeah. And then you followed your system.

Paty Johnson:

And then you wanted to share it with others. So before we do

Paty Johnson:

that, I there's got it you I think there's different types of

Paty Johnson:

procrastinators go through and tell us the different types of

Paty Johnson:

procrastinators. Yeah, it's very interesting, however, because

Paty Johnson:

people think that procrastination is laziness,

Paty Johnson:

right? Like, people are like, you just don't know what to do,

Paty Johnson:

or you're just lazy, which is absolutely not true. Excellent.

Paty Johnson:

Procrastination looks very different to many people. And

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there are five types of procrastination. So if you're

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listening, if you're one of them, you know, there's a

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solution for each one of them. So the first one is

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perfectionist, ah, not gonna do it until it's perfect until it's

Paty Johnson:

good enough. So perfectionism is a big blockage, because you

Paty Johnson:

don't take action because you're afraid of how he's going to

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look. afraid of failure afraid, afraid of judgement from others.

Paty Johnson:

So that's the first style perfectionism. The second one,

Paty Johnson:

dear devils, like that was the queen of the daredevils So

Paty Johnson:

Daredevil was the person that has one month to complete a

Paty Johnson:

project. And when do they do it? Well, last day, now you before

Paty Johnson:

of course. And then you'd like to rush in it and the computer

Paty Johnson:

breaks and the card breaks. I mean, it's very stressful. And I

Paty Johnson:

used to be that so that's the second type that they're devils.

Paty Johnson:

The third ones. Oh, the chickens. And I love the

Paty Johnson:

chickens. I'm gonna tell you why. Because the chickens are

Paty Johnson:

the doors. They do do do all day. They're busy. And they come

Paty Johnson:

to me and they're like, Paty, I'm definitely not a

Paty Johnson:

procrastinator. Can you see? I'm doing a lot during my day. But

Paty Johnson:

the problem is, the chickens are busy, but not productive, busy,

Paty Johnson:

but not productive. So yes, they do a lot during the day, but

Paty Johnson:

they don't know how to prioritise. So basically, they

Paty Johnson:

keep themselves busy with the easy tasks, just to avoid the

Paty Johnson:

ones that are actually crucial. So that's the third one, by the

Paty Johnson:

way, I was combination of all of them.

Paty Johnson:

Therefore, one is the ostrich. The ostrich is the avoidant. The

Paty Johnson:

dreamer. Oh my goodness, the ostrich is a millionaire in

Paty Johnson:

their mind. But they don't take action, because they're afraid

Paty Johnson:

of taking risks and afraid of failure. So the ostrich lives in

Paty Johnson:

a bubble. Nice life. But no oxygen, ostrich puts their head

Paty Johnson:

in the sand. Ah, absolutely. They don't want to face reality.

Paty Johnson:

Everything's good. Everything's good when everything's crumbling

Paty Johnson:

down. So that's the fourth one. And the fifth one is the self

Paty Johnson:

saboteur. This self saboteur. So the self saboteur is the one

Paty Johnson:

that knows exactly what to do. And either don't do it. Or they

Paty Johnson:

do the opposite. They don't do it, or they do the opposite. And

Paty Johnson:

this is very frustrating, because you're your worst enemy,

Paty Johnson:

you are the one blocking your own success. So there's actually

Paty Johnson:

a way to find out what type of procrastinator you are, we're

Paty Johnson:

gonna we're gonna do something special for your audience today.

Paty Johnson:

And then there's a way to fix it through emotional intelligence,

Paty Johnson:

and neuroscience, which is commanding learning to command

Paty Johnson:

your own brain.

Howard Brown:

We're gonna get there. I like that. So a couple

Howard Brown:

of you've helped a lot of people. Are there any examples,

Howard Brown:

a couple of examples of standout things that you've taken in to

Howard Brown:

help people you could share?

Paty Johnson:

Yeah, I've seen it all. I was the worst of the

Paty Johnson:

worst. So what I tell people anyone listening is, I'm no

Paty Johnson:

better than you. I'm no better than anyone. And I was able to

Paty Johnson:

make it. So there's hope. And I get a lot of solopreneurs

Paty Johnson:

business owners, coaches, people that have a lot on their plate,

Paty Johnson:

right. When you're an employee, you like, you know, you go to

Paty Johnson:

805, and nine to five, or whatever. When you have your own

Paty Johnson:

business, you are everything, you're the sales manager, you're

Paty Johnson:

the CEO, you're the you know, you have to do it all. And it

Paty Johnson:

can get very overwhelming, because it's all that plus home

Paty Johnson:

plus you. So I get a lot of people that either they have a

Paty Johnson:

job, but they're trying to open their own business, or they

Paty Johnson:

already have their own business and they're not making the money

Paty Johnson:

they want to make. They feel that at home, they're not being

Paty Johnson:

productive, the house is full of projects that have not been

Paty Johnson:

done. And I don't know you, but when you're a giver, when you

Paty Johnson:

have a heart to give, and I know you do, then you start giving

Paty Johnson:

everything to everyone else, any all of a sudden go back last on

Paty Johnson:

your list. So I get a lot of good parents, a lot of good

Paty Johnson:

moms, single parents, because I was one where you give, give,

Paty Johnson:

give and at the end you're drained, because you didn't put

Paty Johnson:

yourself first. So I get a lot of solopreneurs business owners,

Paty Johnson:

a lot of moms, a lot of dreamers. A lot of people that

Paty Johnson:

are like, I don't like my job, Paty, and I have this great

Paty Johnson:

idea. I have a business idea. And it's been there forever. So

Paty Johnson:

it is important when you have that and in by the way, my my

Paty Johnson:

oldest client was 85 years old. And she came to me it's lovely

Paty Johnson:

lady, and she's like, I've always wanted to have a

Paty Johnson:

photography business. And she's like, and I don't want to die

Paty Johnson:

without making it happen. So she took my course in 30 days you

Paty Johnson:

launched it, and now as you make really good money, so it's never

Paty Johnson:

too late. If you have a dream if you have something in your

Paty Johnson:

heart, and you feel overwhelmed, when you have a lot on your

Paty Johnson:

plate, that's a good time for you to actually want help.

Howard Brown:

It's amazing because the word you said to

Howard Brown:

lead off telling that example was that you give people hope.

Howard Brown:

The last chapter of my book is sharing hope. And the fact that

Howard Brown:

you do that is really an incredible thing. It's a great

Howard Brown:

quality to be able to, because I actually say I lead a resilient

Howard Brown:

life with hope, and hope is the fuel that gets you there. And

Howard Brown:

you give people that fuel. And I love that. And even an 85 year

Howard Brown:

old woman that wanted to pursue her dreams of photography, she

Howard Brown:

just sometimes you need a little nudge, a little push.

Paty Johnson:

Yeah. we all do

Howard Brown:

we absolutely do. And it's really important. And

Howard Brown:

you've, you've been all over the world. And unfortunately,

Howard Brown:

procrastination. It could. It's anyone, right? It's not, it's

Howard Brown:

not it doesn't have any real, you know, particular type. But

Howard Brown:

we all get bogged down. Right. We all do. And again, from from

Howard Brown:

people that are giving people that are overly ambitious, we

Howard Brown:

all do we take on too much. And then then nothing gets done. And

Howard Brown:

so Oh, this is incredible. I have any other any other

Howard Brown:

examples you want to share? 85 year old and what's a cool

Howard Brown:

success story?

Paty Johnson:

Oh, my goodness. So I got one of my ladies, I

Paty Johnson:

have so many. But there was a lady that came to me. She's a

Paty Johnson:

CPA. And she's like, Paty, I have you know, I'm about to

Paty Johnson:

close my business. I don't have many clients. And I don't know

Paty Johnson:

why. But I'm really good. And I just don't know what my strategy

Paty Johnson:

isn't that something's not working. And it happens that

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when you feel bad about yourself, that is a reflection

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on everything around you, like your house doesn't look good.

Paty Johnson:

The number of clients you have, are not a reflection of it's a

Paty Johnson:

reflection of how we feel. So we basically work on herself, and

Paty Johnson:

her mindset, how she saw yours or herself back then. And we

Paty Johnson:

work on increasing her emotional intelligence. And she said, she

Paty Johnson:

finished the course 30 days after and then she calls me 10

Paty Johnson:

months later, and she like Paty, look at my sales. She grew her

Paty Johnson:

business 600%. I'm like, is that a typo? Is that a 60% increase

Paty Johnson:

on sales. And she's like, Paty 600. So it's a beautiful story,

Paty Johnson:

you can actually increase yourselves, you can actually

Paty Johnson:

have her and I have people that come to me and like I want to

Paty Johnson:

work on my health. overweight, I haven't been. Actually I have

Paty Johnson:

one client right now. She texts me every single day, her tennis

Paty Johnson:

shoes by the park, because he's walking every single day after

Paty Johnson:

she drops her kids off. So it's a beautiful story.

Howard Brown:

Oh, she sent you her steps.

Paty Johnson:

Every single step is or single day and then she

Paty Johnson:

that she's she's very over her way right now. But now she's

Paty Johnson:

there's hope. She's making it happen. And I love it. I love it

Paty Johnson:

making the goals and it's important. So give me your

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definition of emotional intelligence. People hear the

Paty Johnson:

buzzword, but how do you define emotional intelligence? Yeah, so

Paty Johnson:

actually, we've been lied before, we were told, if you

Paty Johnson:

have a very high IQ, intelligence quotient, then

Paty Johnson:

you're gonna make it in life. But that's not true. It's been

Paty Johnson:

proven actually, success comes 85% from EQ, emotional

Paty Johnson:

intelligence. And emotional intelligence is divided in four

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quadrants. The first one is awareness of emotions, awareness

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of emotions, and most of us are like, Oh, I'm happy, I'm tired,

Paty Johnson:

exhausted. But there's actually hundreds of emotions that we

Paty Johnson:

experienced during only one day we go up and down. So it's very

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important. That's point number one, to be aware of your

Paty Johnson:

emotions. Point number two, to learn how to regulate those

Paty Johnson:

emotions. Only once you're aware of your emotions, you can

Paty Johnson:

regulate them. My days used to go up and down happy, not happy,

Paty Johnson:

disappointed, happy again. And it's very important to learn how

Paty Johnson:

to regulate so that your days have control, that your emotions

Paty Johnson:

are not controlling you, but that you are controlling your

Paty Johnson:

emotions. So that is the self part. And there's a social part

Paty Johnson:

in it to understand other people's emotions. Very

Paty Johnson:

important when you're in sales very important when you're in

Paty Johnson:

business. Well, in relationships, obviously at home

Paty Johnson:

is very important to be aware of other people's emotions, and you

Paty Johnson:

cannot control any oh my goodness, I discovered that

Paty Johnson:

after many years of trying. So you cannot control anyone else's

Paty Johnson:

emotions, but you're able to not only be aware, but learn how to

Paty Johnson:

respond to those emotions. So that's emotional intelligence on

Paty Johnson:

your side and to be able to relate to others on the

Paty Johnson:

emotional side.

Howard Brown:

I don't know about you, but everyone, it just

Howard Brown:

taught a little masterclass, you know. So, this is awesome. Well,

Howard Brown:

where we're at that time of the show, we're gonna ask you to put

Howard Brown:

on your sunglasses. Okay. So this is where we do the shining

Howard Brown:

brightly spotlight, and I shine the spotlight on you, I want you

Howard Brown:

to tell the listening audience or the viewing audience, how to

Howard Brown:

get a hold of you. And we'll about and then you have a free

Howard Brown:

gift you want to share with them. So that's exciting, and

Howard Brown:

then share some inspirational inspiration with me, and then

Howard Brown:

I'll close out the show.

Paty Johnson:

Lovely. So basically, I'm gonna do

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something very special for your audience. Two special things. If

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you want to talk about if you're struggling with procrastination,

Paty Johnson:

if you want to create a plan, I will happily talk to you at no

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cost. You can text me, I love text messages. It's at eight one

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three in the US. 813-789-1097 Send me a text message saying

Paty Johnson:

I'm in and I'm coming with Shiny Brightly with from Howard's

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podcast. So that I know is from you. At 813-789-1097 My website

Paty Johnson:

is stopprocrastinatingtoday.com Stop procrastinating today dot

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calm. And actually we're gonna post a chorus because we were

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talking about this five types of procrastination. So if you are

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curious, and you want to know what your type of

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procrastination is, we're going to put a link below so you can

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just click on it, and then just find out what your type is. And

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if you want to talk about it after just text me at

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813-789-1097.

Paty Johnson:

And the inspirational part, I'm gonna say we hear a lot. Oh,

Paty Johnson:

it's good to dream. And if you dream it, you'll achieve it. And

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I love dreaming, obviously. But without action, dreams stay

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there. So what I say is, action brings abundance. action brings

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abundance. I had a dream to someday see the world, I had a

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dream to have my own business, I had a dream of getting unstuck.

Paty Johnson:

But it was only when I took action when my life changed. So

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if you're ready to take action, and you don't even know where to

Paty Johnson:

start, just send me a message. You got to start with one step.

Howard Brown:

Oh, that is so beautiful. I'll take off our

Howard Brown:

glasses. Now I want to tell you, everyone should reach out to you

Howard Brown:

for to come and speak at their event or their cooperation,

Howard Brown:

obviously, your coaching and then certainly check out your

Howard Brown:

course. So you have so much to offer. And I love that you're

Howard Brown:

helping people get unstuck and moving forward in their lives or

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in their business. It's just truly amazing. This has been an

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incredible show. And I want to thank some of the people that

Howard Brown:

have gotten me there. So my publishing house front edge

Howard Brown:

publishing, readthespirit.com the amplifyou as my podcast

Howard Brown:

team, and they helped me get through and be able to reach

Howard Brown:

people in a positive manner. And of course, I can be reached at

Howard Brown:

shiningbrightly.com. And there my book is all there. It's my

Howard Brown:

amazing story that helps lift up others. And then I had to have a

Howard Brown:

speaker be glad to come to your nonprofit or your business and

Howard Brown:

and help motivate, educate and inspire. And then this podcast

Howard Brown:

is fed there and then on 24 different channels. And also I'm

Howard Brown:

very proud about my advocacy and helping the people in the cancer

Howard Brown:

world. Entrepreneurs with mentorship and leadership. And

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lastly, interfaith relations. So all stuff to come check me out

Howard Brown:

and I'm interactive, just like Paty, I'll get back to you

Howard Brown:

personally. And we'll help each other out. So just remember, if

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we choose to shine brightly a little bit each day, like Paty

Howard Brown:

does and helps others, okay. And we lift up ourselves. We use our

Howard Brown:

light to lift up ourselves and then lift up others, the world

Howard Brown:

will be a better place. Paty, it's been extraordinary. Thank

Howard Brown:

you. I'm so grateful to have you as a guest today.

Paty Johnson:

Thank you. I'm grateful for being here. Thank

Paty Johnson:

you so much for what you do.

Howard Brown:

Excellent. keep shining. Thank you

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