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Featuring Carbon Almanac Contributors Jenn Swanson, Leekei Tang and Olabanji Stephen
From Langley in British Columbia, Canada, Jenn is a Minister, Coach, Writer and Community Connector, helping people help themselves.
Leekei is a fashion business founder, a business coach, an international development expert and podcaster from Paris, France.
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He, well, how should I say that?
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:He gave away his company to a charity.
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:So, yeah.
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:And so I would like to, you know,
to see what you think about this.
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:I think it is just something that is
great and all businesses should do
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:that is like, all businesses should
serve higher purpose other than
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:making, uh, the, the shareholders.
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:Even more rich and be really responsible.
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:It's, it's actually really for
me, it's like comforting to know
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:that someone out there cares
enough to do things at this scale.
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:It's really amazing.
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:Um, if, if we had like a lot more
people take this level of action at
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:a scale like this, I mean, um, Yon is
worth, it's worth like 1.2 billion.
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:Yeah.
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:And yeah, he's a billionaire.
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:It's a billion dollar company.
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:Yeah.
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:And he owns like a lot of stuff.
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:And then to, to transfer a large
chunk of that to help the climate
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:change is, is really inspiring.
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:And it's not just his wealth,
like his, his family's ownership.
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:Like he, he, he moved his entire
family ownership, um, of the company to
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:trust, um, a non-profit organization.
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:And so that they can help
the climate is, is inspiring.
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:Really great talk.
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:It's a, it's an example of somebody
who's walking the talk, right?
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:It's somebody who has, Yeah.
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:It seems to me when I heard it
that it's not a token gesture.
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:It seems like it's a lifelong
culmination of something that.
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:Person has been trying to live
out in tangible ways for decades.
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:And so it sounds like a big
grand act, but it probably, it
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:probably is true to the person.
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:And true, you know, it, it's
consistent, which you don't always
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:see consistency and ethics that run
like the thread that runs through the
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:whole thing, uh, from beginning to end.
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:Because often people.
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:Into the power and they get into the,
you know, all that ego stuff and it's
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:and it, and, and they get derailed from
the original design and the original
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:thought, Yeah, I'm gonna change the world.
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:And then, well, I can't really change the
world because now I gotta look after all
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:these people and support my lifestyle.
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:But you know, this guy
changed the world in some.
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:He's . He's actually, I, think
he's, you know, he's just launched
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:a new trend in fashion, . I hope
that he's just launched New trend.
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:Yeah.
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:And this, this is like, I hope this
inspires the, the organizations that do
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:a lot of green and like, rather than, you
know, Put a bit of the profit, or at least
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:keep to the word their word and the things
that they say they're, they're doing.
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:I hope this inspires them to
make a change in, you know,
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:in, in the least way possible.
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:At least to not greenwash, to keep
to their promises, um, and things
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:they've said about, you know,
helping the climate and, and stuff.
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:So this really inspires me.
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:This is great.
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:It speaks to follow through
and it speaks to me.
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:Authenticity is sort of a buzz word
right now, but it's this, actually,
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:this actually is authentic, which
is, is amazing in this world.
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:Cuz there's a lot of stuff that isn't
like you say greenwashing and pretend.
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:Mm-hmm.
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:pretend.
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:Yeah.
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:Yeah.
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:And to me it's something very
positive because, um, you probably
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:know that there's a lot of money
involved in the fashion industry.
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:Yeah.
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:And that.
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:It makes me very hopeful
because it shows that there are
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:other values other than money.
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:If, you know, he did that, I'm sure
that other people would be inspired to
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:follow his path and, um, so it's, it's a
very good move and it's very inspiring.
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:, I think it's a matter of value because,
um, most of the time for fashion
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:businesses, the main value, well, it's not
well people, um, I'll sell you, but the
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:main underlying value is financial return.
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:And now that it seems that he's using
his company to do something different.
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:Actually, you know, Patagonia has
another branch which tackles sustainable
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:food as well because, um, even sh has
identified that food is also something
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:that has enormous impact on the climate.
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:Wow.
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:Leaky.
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:Can I ask because you're in
sustainable fashion, have you
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:seen anything like this before?
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:Such a big company?
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:No.
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:No, but, um, the thing is that I work with
small companies, so they have not reached
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:that stage, but hopefully they will.
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:, , what I do, uh, is that I try
to help them get crystal clear
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:about where they wanna go.
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:and, uh, what they want
to do with their company.
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:And, uh, this has been my model for
the last few years, is that, okay,
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:forget about, you know, sustainable,
ethical, conscious, blah, blah, blah.
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:This will not work.
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:This is a trend, but it will not fast.
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:Mm-hmm.
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:. So this is my approach.
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:You have to get deeper than that
because green washing is something.
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:Is a threat if you all
staying at that level.
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:So if you really want, if you are
really into that, you really have to,
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:to dig very deep to understand what
your values are and why you are there.
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:Yeah.
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:So hopefully the companies I work
with, some of them will become one of
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:these Patagonia one of these days.
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:Yeah.
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:Amazing.
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:Well, that's a plus on the climate side,
and we're looking forward to more, more
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:people, more organizations do things
like this to support climate change.
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:Yeah, we we're, we're
looking forward to it.
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:It's good to find out what
companies, what their ethics are,
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:if it's possible, and then support.
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:Things if you can.
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:I know sometimes the cost is more and
you look at it and you think, Oh, well
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:I could get this so much cheaper, you
know, on Amazon, or I could get this
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:so much cheaper from this company.
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:But if you're only concerned about
that, uh, then of course you would
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:go to the fast fashion or you would
go to the, you know, the store that
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:makes stuff outta plastic or whatever.
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:But if you really care, then
maybe you don't buy, you.
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:All this stuff, but you spend your money
on one thing that's really good for the
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:environment and a good product and you
know, consume a little less, but make
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:it more meaningful in the consumption.
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:It's hard because, you know, we want
the deals , and in today's economy it's
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:really hard because everything's so.
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:Yeah,
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