Once you have tasted leadership at school “you can never weave that power out of me”. When 12 years old Isata achieved the impossible and lead a change to her school’s uniform life changed for her.

Isata challenges leaders to think long and hard about their own education. Whether they been encouraged to question and whether they have got used to being questioned themselves, because if the answer to either is ‘no’ it will have had a huge influence on how they lead.

This is the final in the series of episodes about what is in women’s essence that deeply influences how they lead. Isata talks about formal education. And Julia talks about informal education and the impact on young girls of years of being told to be quiet. And the habits that as women leaders they have to dig out of themselves to be heard.