In Tides of Transformation, we explore St. Eustatius from 1950 to 2000, a period of quiet but profound change. As men migrated for work, women led households, nurtured communities, and anchored culture. We reflect on intergenerational silence surrounding slavery, the resilience passed down through women, and the economic shift brought by Statia Oil Terminals.
Through stories from elders, nurses, activists, and Governor Alida Francis, we witness the strength of matriarchal leadership. These aren’t tales from textbooks—they’re lived memories, told in the flicker of oil lamps and the rhythm of daily care.
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behind, took care of the children, but they also had to
Speaker:work. The women were always in my
Speaker:time that I'm on this earth in Stacia, uh, were always
Speaker:in leading positions.
Speaker:>> Unidentified (Podcast Host): Welcome to Whispers of the Past. I'm your host,
Speaker:Fitavit. And in this episode,
Speaker:Tides of Transformation. We step into the
Speaker:heartbeat of synthesias between
Speaker:1950 and the 2000s.
Speaker:This chapter isn't shaped by headlines, but by
Speaker:hands. Hands that lit lanterns before
Speaker:electricity, lapped grass before
Speaker:lawnmowers, and passed down memory in the
Speaker:quiet language of care.
Speaker:From the flicker of the oil lamp to the rise of
Speaker:oil terminals, we follow the steady
Speaker:current of change. How
Speaker:migration reshaped family life,
Speaker:how women stepped into spaces left behind,
Speaker:and how silence around slavery gave way
Speaker:slowly, tenderly, to storytelling
Speaker:and truth. We witnessed
Speaker:the hush of intergenerational trauma
Speaker:and the quiet courage of those who broke
Speaker:it. We revisit
Speaker:the blue bead, one's currency, then
Speaker:toy, now symbol, and
Speaker:ask what happens when a community
Speaker:forgets not through apathy, but through
Speaker:survival. Through these
Speaker:voices, we navigate a Caribbean
Speaker:crossroads, a place
Speaker:where women led without title, where heritage
Speaker:lived outside museum walls, and where
Speaker:transformation whispers long before it was
Speaker:named.
Speaker:Electricity didn't arrive on stacia until
Speaker:late 1950s. Before that,
Speaker:lanterns hung on poles to light the streets,
Speaker:and darkness was something you felt in your bones.
Speaker:For many, like Mrs. Rivers, a
Speaker:respected elder and lifelong nurse devoted to Karen's
Speaker:service, this wasn't just an inconvenience.
Speaker:It was a memory, etched not just in time,
Speaker:but but in feeling.
Speaker:>>
at that time. I think it came
Speaker:lately, after late in the 50s, going
Speaker:to the 60s, I think. Then we
Speaker:got electricity. Um, I'm not quite sure.
Speaker:I think it's around those years, yeah.
Speaker:>> Speaker C: Cause in those years back, we
Speaker:had lanterns we used to hang out on.
Speaker:>>
in the night. Because the show is so dark and I don't like
Speaker:it. I'm getting used to it, but I.
Speaker:>> Speaker C: Still don't like it.
Speaker:>> Unidentified (Podcast Host): In the glow of lanterns, before electricity
Speaker:reached every home station, women kept the
Speaker:island moving, raising children by
Speaker:memory, guiding communities by touch, and
Speaker:lighting the way with more than fire.
Speaker:These were the women who built daily life out of
Speaker:scarcity. But behind that steady strength,
Speaker:lived histories, rarely spoken out, uh, loud.
Speaker:As we turn to Mrs. M. Bennet, also a respected
Speaker:elder who dedicated her life to nursing, she
Speaker:reflects, Even in the 1950s and
Speaker:1960s, the legacy of slavery
Speaker:remained largely unspoken in
Speaker:families. Silence Wrapped around the past like
Speaker:a second skin. This is what some
Speaker:scholars now describe as intergenerational
Speaker:silence, when trauma is passed
Speaker:down not through story, but through the absence of
Speaker:it. What Mrs. Bennet eventually
Speaker:uncovered through songs, community
Speaker:practice and her own curiosity
Speaker:wasn't just a personal discovery. It was
Speaker:part of what researchers call transgenerational
Speaker:trauma in the quiet inheritance of
Speaker:pain, strength and
Speaker:survival, Mechanisms that shaped by
Speaker:slavery and colonialism.
Speaker:And yet the inheritance wasn't
Speaker:just only a wound. It was also
Speaker:resilience through care networks, the kind
Speaker:that forms when formal institutions
Speaker:falls short and people,
Speaker:especially women, take it upon themselves
Speaker:to teach, protect and
Speaker:remember.
Speaker:There's also a term for gender
Speaker:memory work,
Speaker:when women often unconsciously become
Speaker:the keepers of communal past through
Speaker:recipes, rituals, and the
Speaker:refusal to forget. So when,
Speaker:uh, Mrs. Bennet speaks of learning about slavery through a
Speaker:song circle in her 30s, she's not just
Speaker:recalling a moment. She's embodying the
Speaker:truth that many station women lived. That
Speaker:healing too can be inherent.
Speaker:Not all trauma screams. Some of it
Speaker:whispers from generation to
Speaker:generation. And sometimes
Speaker:the act of remembering is its own quiet
Speaker:form of resistance.
Speaker:>> Speaker C: Maybe um, they talk about it.
Speaker:Maybe there wasn't in that time
Speaker:got to be. They never say whether the father,
Speaker:uh, or mother was a slave. You know,
Speaker:all I used to hear my stepmother saying about
Speaker:um. She had family from the Congo,
Speaker:something from Africa. But you
Speaker:never say who rather than how they was treated.
Speaker:And my father Bennett, he said from
Speaker:here. But his father,
Speaker:Karen Bennett understood his father.
Speaker:His father father was a German
Speaker:from Germany. And my
Speaker:mother, mother was from St. Kitts.
Speaker:My mother father. He had family
Speaker:in Sabah. But I don't know
Speaker:the title. He have have the same
Speaker:title in um. Sink it to
Speaker:Cranstone. I never talked
Speaker:about
Speaker:the time I come a part of this history
Speaker:was I was
Speaker:singing in a group with Shanna Mercera.
Speaker:They used to keep a singing group. And
Speaker:every July she will
Speaker:perform. We had to put on like
Speaker:African weather skirt or
Speaker:so. And um, then I
Speaker:realized about this slavery
Speaker:business. I think I was um,
Speaker:in my 30s somewhere
Speaker:around there. I was working, nursing.
Speaker:Sometimes they used to come on the radio, hear them
Speaker:speaking and how they did buy slave
Speaker:and did them very bad. You know.
Speaker:I heard my grandmother came here to work in
Speaker:the grown planting. But I never
Speaker:heard whether by a slave master
Speaker:never heard.
Speaker:She was married to my grandfather, but she had
Speaker:to get to make ends meet.
Speaker:Whether maybe he didn't like it or not. She had to
Speaker:find work somewhere. When I. I don't know when
Speaker:I Know myself. I went to Aruba
Speaker:when I was, um. I went
Speaker:back Aruba for school when I was 15. I heard
Speaker:she passed away. When? In her 30s or her
Speaker:40s. I think she reached 40.
Speaker:She had a bad. Catch a bad cold. I think she used
Speaker:to burn cold bed, you know,
Speaker:cold in the ground. She catch a
Speaker:cold? She had bronchitis and
Speaker:she passed away.
Speaker:>> Unidentified (Podcast Host): What does it mean when a community forgets?
Speaker:Not by choice, but by necessity.
Speaker:As Mrs. Bennet reflects, the
Speaker:past was never openly spoken of.
Speaker:Slavery was not a story told in her
Speaker:household, but a shadow, unmentioned
Speaker:yet ever present. A
Speaker:stepmother who mentioned Congo but gave no
Speaker:history. A grandmother
Speaker:remembering through fragments. It wasn't
Speaker:that the past was lost. It was
Speaker:sealed. This is what scholars
Speaker:now describe as intergenerational silence, A
Speaker:form of cultural amnesia born from pain
Speaker:too heavy to name. In the wake
Speaker:of forced migration, family
Speaker:separation and. And dehumanization,
Speaker:many Caribbean families adopted silence
Speaker:as a form of protection.
Speaker:Post enslavement syndrome. A, uh, framework used
Speaker:to understand the legacy, helps us see how
Speaker:trauma can be inherent not only through
Speaker:blood, but through behavior, through gaps in
Speaker:memory, through stories left
Speaker:untold.
Speaker:Sometimes this silence was survival.
Speaker:Sometimes it became generational erasure,
Speaker:where remembering was too dangerous
Speaker:and forgetting became a kind of
Speaker:care. But not all memory
Speaker:vanishes. On, um,
Speaker:synthesis. The past still breathes
Speaker:through gardens, through landmarks, through the
Speaker:efforts of those who will listen. A few
Speaker:have listened. And now we turn to Mr.
Speaker:Burkle, a respected elder and local
Speaker:historian who has spent decades preserving
Speaker:stacia, folklore, family legacies, and
Speaker:untold truths. His father never spoke
Speaker:of, uh, slavery. But what he didn't say,
Speaker:Mr. Burkle has sought to understand.
Speaker:Now we turn to his voice.
Speaker:>> Speaker C: To be honest with you, my father never
Speaker:talk. His ancestors
Speaker:came out of slavery. His
Speaker:grandmother, you know, and he
Speaker:never talk about slavery with us. He
Speaker:never talk about it. My father, you know, after he
Speaker:became a Seventh day Adventist, he
Speaker:tried to avoid, you
Speaker:know, like, creating
Speaker:malice and feelings. So whatever
Speaker:happened there, uh, he never
Speaker:explained. He would say it
Speaker:was a rough time, what people went
Speaker:through and things like that. But to go
Speaker:into depth, he never did
Speaker:that. And we never hang around the bears
Speaker:and stuff like that. So in places
Speaker:where web the men and the women
Speaker:in assembly and talk about it.
Speaker:>> Unidentified (Podcast Host): What'S remembered and what's withheld
Speaker:tells us just as much as what was said.
Speaker:Mr. Burkle's father, like many elders across
Speaker:the Caribbean, avoided the raw details of
Speaker:slavery, not because they weren't known,
Speaker:but because they carried emotional weight.
Speaker:Religious restraint and generational
Speaker:pain.
Speaker:That silence became part of the legacy
Speaker:itself. Scholars call it
Speaker:adaptive forgetting, a way to move
Speaker:forward without reopening wounds too deep to
Speaker:heal in public.
Speaker:But while certain histories remained
Speaker:unspoken, others were passed down through
Speaker:ritual, role models and rhythm.
Speaker:If slavery was a trauma never fully
Speaker:named, then girlhood was often where
Speaker:community stepped in with rules,
Speaker:guidance, and quiet codes of
Speaker:protection. In the absence
Speaker:of formal sex education and emotional
Speaker:language, young girls learned through
Speaker:examples, warnings, and whispered
Speaker:advices. It
Speaker:wasn't always clear, but it was consistent.
Speaker:And so we move from silence to
Speaker:guidance, from a raised past to the
Speaker:small rituals of becoming a woman.
Speaker:Mrs. Bennet picks up the thread not through
Speaker:history books, but through lived memory
Speaker:in church basements and neighborhood
Speaker:circles. She recalls a different kind of
Speaker:education, one that came stitched in
Speaker:cloth, spoken in caution, and held
Speaker:in the hands of women who knew how to care
Speaker:even when they couldn't explain why.
Speaker:>> Speaker C: In 1965, I had a cousin
Speaker:used to work in Puerto Rican the post
Speaker:office. Her name was Louise
Speaker:Walpatin. And, um,
Speaker:she was living around there. They got a rotunda
Speaker:circle there by the guest house,
Speaker:living there on the right side, not far from the
Speaker:library. Well, they was in the Methodist
Speaker:church, she and the lady that took care
Speaker:of her, huh, Ms. El Ree Leslie.
Speaker:They had a sculpt
Speaker:like, uh, they call it girls brigade. And so,
Speaker:um, every week we will go there by the Methodist
Speaker:church. What they call it, Elma
Speaker:was a wooden building. They sing
Speaker:about God. And so.
Speaker:And they gave a little handicraft
Speaker:and little teaching about.
Speaker:Invite the doctor to teach the
Speaker:girls about the period. And so
Speaker:I think, I don't know if it was so all the time, but the
Speaker:lady, this Ms. Warm Putin, had invited the
Speaker:education, the teacher,
Speaker:how it go, uh, how it comes every
Speaker:month. There is so much time in a
Speaker:month will come.
Speaker:Well, um, my stepmother
Speaker:had. When I told I could get it when I was
Speaker:13 years and I didn't know she had
Speaker:everything prepared. We had the ready made, um,
Speaker:napkin. Otherwise, I think before time the women
Speaker:used to use like old cloth
Speaker:but diaper. And so the cloth
Speaker:diaper. But how I know because when I went
Speaker:to Aruba, 19, um,
Speaker:70, I saw my mother with these
Speaker:things on the line. Then I said, oh, maybe,
Speaker:um, using them for a period.
Speaker:And some girls wouldn't talk because at that time everything
Speaker:used to be secretly. The parents maybe tell them,
Speaker:well, don't say so. So. So but when I got
Speaker:there the first time, and my stepmother dressed
Speaker:me up with this thing she had an elastic
Speaker:belt. And then she turned and she said, don't play
Speaker:with boys. Just like that.
Speaker:I get bigger now. I said, she should have explained
Speaker:me. Well, don't go in a bed with a boy or
Speaker:something. Nothing like that. All she said, don't play
Speaker:with boys. One time a guy
Speaker:next door neighbor had a
Speaker:nephew there. And one morning he
Speaker:was, uh, three years older than me. And one
Speaker:morning I was going down to school
Speaker:and, um, he came with a bicycle
Speaker:riding next to me. And he said.
Speaker:He said, good morning. And I said, go from
Speaker:here. My stepmother told me I must not play
Speaker:with boys. Maybe the poor boy feel
Speaker:so embarrassed.
Speaker:My father and they were very shrek. I couldn't get
Speaker:out because I.
Speaker:>> Unidentified (Podcast Host): As M the 1960s unfolded,
Speaker:Synthastacia stood on the threshold of quiet
Speaker:transformation. In homes like Mrs.
Speaker:Bennet's, traditions were still whispered more than
Speaker:spoken, where advice came dressed in
Speaker:silence, and puberty was managed with
Speaker:dignity, not detail. It was
Speaker:a time when girls learned about womanhood from what was folded
Speaker:in drawers, hung on clothesline, and passed down
Speaker:in glances, not words.
Speaker:Across the island, the wind of change were blowing
Speaker:gently but persistently. The late 60s
Speaker:and early 70s brought electricity to
Speaker:more neighborhoods, slowly glimmering the
Speaker:glow of lanterns of the community poles.
Speaker:Regional developments picked up pace as well,
Speaker:with other islands like Aruba and
Speaker:Curacao drawing away more men for oil and
Speaker:construction work and women, as
Speaker:always, holding the center of daily life
Speaker:back home.
Speaker:These years also marked a period of
Speaker:environmental vulnerability across the
Speaker:Caribbean. While Sint Eustachius
Speaker:was spared the brunt of major hurricanes
Speaker:like Ines in 1966 and
Speaker:Edith in 1971, their
Speaker:near misses were a reminder of the island's
Speaker:exposure of lives shaped by
Speaker:weather as much as by memory.
Speaker:And amid this shifting landscape, new
Speaker:voices began to rise. Women who had come
Speaker:of age in quiet households began to lead
Speaker:in churches, clinics and schools,
Speaker:planting the seeds for the generation to
Speaker:follow. It is in this
Speaker:setting that we meet the young Governor Francis.
Speaker:The year is 1965. And in the streets of
Speaker:Oranjestad, another story of girlhood is
Speaker:beginning to unfold.
Speaker:>>
1965. Actually,
Speaker:I was born on Fort Oranye street that is
Speaker:bordering on the south side of Oranistad. I always divide
Speaker:Oranistad in the north part and. And the
Speaker:south. I, uh, learned late in life that I was born
Speaker:at home. And my sister told me
Speaker:that, um, she awoke one morning and I
Speaker:was screaming, making a whole lot of noise
Speaker:and at seven years old, we relocated to
Speaker:Paramiraweh. So
Speaker:most of my recollection of growing up is in
Speaker:Paramira Weh. I
Speaker:remember being, uh, called a tomboy because
Speaker:I played with the boys. And the
Speaker:location that we know now as the sunny Cranston,
Speaker:um, born, that was my playground.
Speaker:There was a gentleman there by the name of Pepi, and
Speaker:he had a large, um,
Speaker:field of yams, tanyas and sweet
Speaker:potatoes. And as children we would go into the
Speaker:ground and we would, of course, take some of his sweet
Speaker:potatoes and we would roast them on the
Speaker:fire. The main part I remember is playing in the
Speaker:streets with my friends on Paramira
Speaker:Wech. One of the main roads that we played on
Speaker:was the road that would joined, uh, my house and
Speaker:Duggins supermarket. Of course, in
Speaker:those days, Duggins supermarket was not there at the
Speaker:time, but there was a Duggins store where the
Speaker:hardware is now. And we played on that road.
Speaker:We climbed trees, we picked fruits
Speaker:from the neighbors, welcomed and unwelcomed.
Speaker:But in the streets, the games that we played were mainly games that were
Speaker:called jola. And also
Speaker:what we did on the streets, we played marbles and
Speaker:chestnuts. Most people talk about marbles. You will
Speaker:create a ring, and the marbles would be in the
Speaker:ring. They were small marbles, big marbles, but they were
Speaker:also cashew nuts. You know, the
Speaker:cashew trees grew a lot on the island back then.
Speaker:The cashew nuts were part of the game,
Speaker:and you would pitch and the nut had a lower value,
Speaker:for instance, than the smaller marbles. And
Speaker:then you had the giant sized marbles. So it
Speaker:usually was a boys game, but there was
Speaker:a leader playing, um with the
Speaker:boys. Yes,
Speaker:it was a wonderful time growing up in Stacia.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:>> Unidentified (Podcast Host): What echoes in Governor France's memories is not
Speaker:just the innocence of games, but the
Speaker:texture of place in the rustling of
Speaker:trees of Parmi revech, in the roasted
Speaker:sweet potatoes, in the thump of cashew
Speaker:nuts against the streets on Stacia.
Speaker:And yet, some of the most cherished objects of the
Speaker:island's past were never taught to her in school or passed
Speaker:down with meaning. Like the blue
Speaker:bead. What was once used
Speaker:as currency, once worn as
Speaker:adornment, once bound to the legacy of
Speaker:trade, survival and enslavement.
Speaker:By the time Governor Frances and her friends
Speaker:were drawing circles in the road, that history
Speaker:had grown quiet.
Speaker:Because by then, the blue bead was another
Speaker:marble. And in that silence, we
Speaker:begin to understand how memory can
Speaker:fade. Not from forgetfulness,
Speaker:but from the way stories are swallowed by
Speaker:time. Now we
Speaker:Turn again to Mr. Burko, who remembers
Speaker:when the blue bead was simply a
Speaker:bead.
Speaker:>> Speaker C: I don't know much about this blue
Speaker:beads in our day,
Speaker:the blue bead.
Speaker:>>
bead.
Speaker:>> Speaker C: No one explained nothing about the bead. The
Speaker:blue bead had no value in those days. Where
Speaker:I'm concerned for you
Speaker:find them and it's just
Speaker:a bead.
Speaker:>> Unidentified (Podcast Host): What is value? Sometimes
Speaker:it's placed in the things. Beads,
Speaker:bones, coins. But more often
Speaker:it lives in the stories we wrap around them.
Speaker:For Mr. Burkle's generation, the blue bead
Speaker:was just another marble, scattered,
Speaker:pitched, pocketed. Not sacred, not
Speaker:symbolic. It was just glass.
Speaker:But time has a way of polishing the past,
Speaker:turning the ordinary into relic.
Speaker:What was once tossed in play became a symbol
Speaker:of survival, A, uh, trace of trade,
Speaker:a whisper of the enslaved.
Speaker:By the time Governor Francis was growing up, the
Speaker:beat speeding was already fading. Its
Speaker:worth was unspoken in classrooms. Its
Speaker:past was unmentioned in homes. And she
Speaker:remembers hearing about it, but not really holding the weight of
Speaker:it.
Speaker:And so we're reminded heritage is
Speaker:fragile. Its value not in the object, but
Speaker:in the care we give to it. And
Speaker:if we don't pass the story, we risk losing the
Speaker:meaning.
Speaker:>>
with blue beads, but in my younger years, my brothers
Speaker:were part of the young people who
Speaker:would go to Crookes Castle. And they did indeed have
Speaker:skillets of beads and the round ones. I
Speaker:was told I never personally played with it, but I know of the story.
Speaker:Indeed, we did not know the value of the blue
Speaker:bead back then. Unfortunately.
Speaker:>> Unidentified (Podcast Host): In the quiet whisper held by the bluebead, there
Speaker:are things we forget to see.
Speaker:We forget that in the Caribbean, the most powerful
Speaker:inheritance were not written in wills, but passed through
Speaker:hands, through labor, through lineage,
Speaker:through women. Governor Frances
Speaker:reflects on this not as a theory, but as a
Speaker:memory. Her childhood shaped not by kings
Speaker:or captains, but by single mothers who held
Speaker:families together while
Speaker:fathers were pulled away to different islands
Speaker:like Aruba and Curacao,
Speaker:to the oil fields of Lago and Shell.
Speaker:This was not a coincidence. It was part of
Speaker:a larger pattern scholars now recognize as the
Speaker:gender legacy of colonial labor systems.
Speaker:Post emancipation, economies pulled men
Speaker:outwards and upwards, while women remained
Speaker:behind, anchoring homes, community and
Speaker:care. What
Speaker:emerged was a familiar pattern across the
Speaker:Caribbean. Women not only surviving, but
Speaker:leading. And in Stacia, there were
Speaker:shopkeepers, land workers,
Speaker:nurses and night shift caretakers.
Speaker:They shared jobs so they all could eat.
Speaker:They raised children while lapping Grass and
Speaker:stacking provisions. They organized
Speaker:on church steps and in parade
Speaker:grounds and inside wooden holes that smelled
Speaker:of starch and stories.
Speaker:This too is a facet of post enslavement
Speaker:syndrome, the structural afterlife of
Speaker:a system that fractured families and
Speaker:redistributed agency
Speaker:station. Women, like those across the region,
Speaker:responded not with passivity, but with. But with
Speaker:presence. They filled in the absence
Speaker:left by migration and memory. And in
Speaker:doing so, they built something more than survival.
Speaker:They built continuality.
Speaker:Governor France's reflections reminds us
Speaker:matriarchal strength is not a romantic
Speaker:ideal. It's the historical reality,
Speaker:one forged in hardship, adapted through
Speaker:necessity, and carried forward in everyday
Speaker:acts of leadership. From the
Speaker:beat to the breadline, from the
Speaker:market to the Carnival stage, this is where
Speaker:Caribbean womanhood has always
Speaker:lived.
Speaker:>>
mothers who were single mothers. My
Speaker:mother was a single mother because she was
Speaker:married at one time, and then she got divorced and
Speaker:she raised her six children on her own. But when I
Speaker:look within my neighborhood, there was a similar story
Speaker:of women, all women who were not married
Speaker:but had children. And sometimes they had a partner.
Speaker:But in our history, we also
Speaker:know the situation that still exists today,
Speaker:where there were men who had multiple
Speaker:families. Um, what I do remember
Speaker:is that in the 60s and 70s,
Speaker:most of the men migrated to Aruba and
Speaker:Curacao to work in the oil
Speaker:industry, Lago and Shell. And so
Speaker:when I try to reflect back on those days,
Speaker:the women were actually in charge. They were left
Speaker:behind, took care of the children, but they also had to
Speaker:work. I interviewed Angelica
Speaker:Ridan. She told me about,
Speaker:um, working at the airport.
Speaker:Back then, employment was so
Speaker:low on the island and what the government did
Speaker:back then, instead of giving one person a full
Speaker:eight hours, they were divided up and everybody
Speaker:could eat. So you would work four hours, and I would work four
Speaker:hours. And when it came to the airport, she told
Speaker:me the story of lapping grass. We now have
Speaker:land mowers. Back then, they had to
Speaker:lap the land, the grass with,
Speaker:um, cutlass.
Speaker:And so those were the women herself,
Speaker:Hilda Lenz. She spoke about Valerie Timber.
Speaker:They were women actually doing manual work just
Speaker:to be able to support their families along
Speaker:with what their spouses would send back from
Speaker:Aruba or Curacao to support the family.
Speaker:And also in those days, women played a prominent role in
Speaker:agriculture. I remember then we had the Dutch
Speaker:farmers that would come to St. Eustatius
Speaker:and the road that we know now as Concordia, uh,
Speaker:road on which the Carnival,
Speaker:um, um village is Located.
Speaker:If you would look at all those homes, they were generally the same
Speaker:types of homes. Those were the homes that were built
Speaker:by the farmers. That is why the
Speaker:property over which Wayne and
Speaker:all other aircrafts land here on St.
Speaker:Eustatius, that area is called the farm because it
Speaker:was the, uh, farm ground of the
Speaker:farmers. There's still partially a structure
Speaker:there. And that used to be the farmer's shop.
Speaker:Yeah, that is where, um, they sold the
Speaker:crops that they harvested.
Speaker:But also on the cottage road, there was also a
Speaker:building called, um, the farmer's stor.
Speaker:Women always played as far back as I
Speaker:know myself, I'm 59 years old now. In my
Speaker:growing up years, women played a very
Speaker:prominent role. They were the shopkeepers.
Speaker:Rose Warner, Ms. Duggins,
Speaker:uh, Ms. M. Emmy, Mrs. Uh, M.
Speaker:Henricus, um, Ms. Dunkerque. We
Speaker:are Esperanza stories now. Ms. Laura Rouse,
Speaker:Ms. King. The women were always
Speaker:in my time that I'm on this earth. Instead
Speaker:were always in leading positions. And I
Speaker:associated with the men, uh,
Speaker:migrating to seek a better income for their
Speaker:families elsewhere within the Netherlands. And.
Speaker:>> Unidentified (Podcast Host): By the 1960s and 70s, as
Speaker:men left to chase wages across the sea, it
Speaker:was the women of Sint Eustatia who stayed behind,
Speaker:anchoring the island not only in memory, but in
Speaker:motion. They kept the economy breathing
Speaker:through shared labor. They raised children in clusters
Speaker:of care. And they held the rhythms of daily lives
Speaker:in the hands already worn from generation of
Speaker:tending. But even as
Speaker:women stepped forward into visible leadership, something
Speaker:else was unfolding quietly across
Speaker:thresholds and dinner tables. The island was
Speaker:becoming a tapestry of arrivals.
Speaker:For centuries, into Statius has been at a
Speaker:crossroad, a place where people from many
Speaker:nations passed through or stayed behind.
Speaker:But from 1950 onwards, it began to
Speaker:attract a different kind of visitor. Not just
Speaker:traders or transient, but seekers.
Speaker:Artists, archaeologists, environmentalists and
Speaker:dreamers, many of them from the west,
Speaker:drawn not by wealth, but by
Speaker:wondering. In those years, the
Speaker:community opened its door without suspicion.
Speaker:Newcomers were folded into potlucks and
Speaker:politics into carnival troops and committee
Speaker:meetings. People didn't just live on the island,
Speaker:they belonged to it. And it's
Speaker:from within this spirit of integration and kinship we now
Speaker:hear from Mrs. Tsutakao, a long term resident
Speaker:and one of the founders of Syntastatia Archaeological and
Speaker:Historical center, whose arrival in
Speaker:1978 marked not just a chapter in her
Speaker:life, but a new era for the island itself.
Speaker:>> Ms. Sutekau: When I arrived here in 78, women were already
Speaker:involved in politics on the island.
Speaker:They were holding positions of authority.
Speaker:Back then, the major
Speaker:political person
Speaker:on the island was Vincent Astor Lopes, but
Speaker:other people were involved in it. We
Speaker:were, um, in
Speaker:78 state terminals was being
Speaker:built, and it was being
Speaker:built after Claude
Speaker:Wattie and other people had involvement of running
Speaker:the property where station terminals is
Speaker:located, to the group that formed statue
Speaker:terminal, which was a private group that
Speaker:consisted of the Chicago ridge and iron people
Speaker:and other, um,
Speaker:men by the name of Mr. M. Baralova and other
Speaker:people. They contracted, uh, to get the
Speaker:property here and start station terminals.
Speaker:>> Unidentified (Podcast Host): To understand the rise of Stacia terminals
Speaker:in the late 1970s is to witness
Speaker:history rhyming with itself.
Speaker:Nearly two centuries after Sintostatius
Speaker:earned the nickname the golden rock as the bustling note
Speaker:of trade, its geography once
Speaker:again called ships to shore,
Speaker:not with sugar or with the enslaved, but
Speaker:with oil, reviving the island's role as a
Speaker:strategic port. This
Speaker:industrial arrival didn't just transform its
Speaker:economy. It stirred something deeper, a
Speaker:quiet return of its people.
Speaker:>> Ms. Sutekau: But station terminals had not opened at that point
Speaker:of time when, during that
Speaker:process, many stations
Speaker:who had lived, um, off Griffin for
Speaker:most of their lives came back home to be involved in that
Speaker:building. By the time station terminals
Speaker:opened, many of the workers that had been at
Speaker:Lago and Aruba started coming
Speaker:back home to work at space terminal.
Speaker:And the population began to grow.
Speaker:I can't remember what the population was if I
Speaker:knew what it was in 1978, because I
Speaker:was only here for one day. By
Speaker:1985, when I came here and bought the
Speaker:property, the population was around 8 or
Speaker:900. That had grown
Speaker:by the time I moved here in
Speaker:1989, 1990
Speaker:to around 12,
Speaker:1400. And it continued to grow
Speaker:as statia terminals grew
Speaker:in the 1978, when I came here,
Speaker:there were only one or two grocery stores. You
Speaker:could still go in and buy a piece of chicken that they
Speaker:would cut off and give it to you. Power
Speaker:was on only during the
Speaker:days it was cut off at night.
Speaker:But stacia was actually
Speaker:in better shape than many islands around
Speaker:it because there was
Speaker:enough industry and commerce going on to
Speaker:protect itself. We were still dependent
Speaker:on boats bringing in supplies from St.
Speaker:Martin. And also, I believe we
Speaker:were even getting some of our supplies from St. Kitt. I'm not sure
Speaker:about that, but I know that we were not training with
Speaker:St. Kitt like we would later on when
Speaker:station really got to be booming. During the
Speaker:station terminal era.
Speaker:>> Unidentified (Podcast Host): This period of transformation was more than
Speaker:economic. It carried the imprint of women
Speaker:who had long anchored station life,
Speaker:not just in kitchens or care work, but
Speaker:in council Chambers and cultural
Speaker:revival. Caribbean feminist
Speaker:scholars described as a subaltern
Speaker:agency where women shaped society not
Speaker:in spite of patriarchy, but in the spaces
Speaker:left behind by it. The same migration
Speaker:that emptied the island of men empowered
Speaker:women to lead without asking
Speaker:permission. In the Wider region.
Speaker:The 1980s were marked by cultural awakening and
Speaker:political flux. From the independence of Antigua
Speaker:and Barbuda, uh, in 1981, to
Speaker:hurricanes like Hugo in
Speaker:1989. Testing both resilience
Speaker:and leadership, Stacia stood firm,
Speaker:quietly, steadily held
Speaker:together by the same hands that have always
Speaker:carried it.
Speaker:>> Ms. Sutekau: When I actually moved here in
Speaker:1985,
Speaker:there were women in government, they were
Speaker:commissioners and they were island council
Speaker:members. And, um, their voices were
Speaker:well received and well heard. There were
Speaker:also women on station who did
Speaker:phenomenal, such as
Speaker:Inez Daw, who took the
Speaker:government to task in Hilly's
Speaker:for the fact that women were making
Speaker:different salaries than the men. And she
Speaker:brought this forward and she pushed that
Speaker:agenda. There were women such as Miriam
Speaker:Schmidt, involved in the historical foundation,
Speaker:involved in the national park, who were
Speaker:really pushing very hard for
Speaker:stations that began to recognize their own heritage,
Speaker:their own culture. She was one of the main
Speaker:driving forces in seeing that
Speaker:Emancipation Day was a national holiday.
Speaker:And one of the things I regret most is that she
Speaker:didn't live long enough to see that accompli.
Speaker:>> Unidentified (Podcast Host): The women on Stacia are not just footnotes
Speaker:in civic records. They are the architects
Speaker:of modern Stacia cultural consciousness.
Speaker:From pushing pay equality to making
Speaker:emancipation more than a memory, these women
Speaker:embodied a vision of justice rooted in
Speaker:remembrance. Their activism was
Speaker:not reactive, it was reparative.
Speaker:>> Ms. Sutekau: There were also many other
Speaker:women. Unfortunately, I didn't get to know
Speaker:a lot of those. They died about the
Speaker:time that I came here that were like
Speaker:Christine Flanders, who were so
Speaker:instrumental in the cultural heritage of Stacia and
Speaker:in the auxiliary and the treatment of
Speaker:our older people. Stacia's
Speaker:women were who I remember
Speaker:as being the leaders of the
Speaker:community, and they're
Speaker:activists. They were the activists
Speaker:for the community.
Speaker:>> Unidentified (Podcast Host): Across the Caribbean, migration has
Speaker:never been just about movement. It's
Speaker:about meaning. When those raised by island
Speaker:winds and community hands
Speaker:leave to study, to work,
Speaker:to dream, it's not just a simple
Speaker:departure. It's an echo of something
Speaker:way older. The fracture of colonial
Speaker:legacy, the search for opportunity
Speaker:where opportunity rarely roots.
Speaker:Scholars call it brain drain, a global
Speaker:phenomenon. But in small islands, it
Speaker:feels personal. It is a teacher
Speaker:who never returned. It's a nurse
Speaker:who stayed abroad, the child
Speaker:who left and became a stranger to their
Speaker:own shoreline. And
Speaker:yet the ties of cultural
Speaker:identity, of memory,
Speaker:language and ancestry do not
Speaker:break so easily. For many,
Speaker:the longing to serve home from afar becomes
Speaker:a quiet promise, a belief that
Speaker:even if they leave, they carry the island within
Speaker:them. That one day return may not just be
Speaker:a choice, but a restoration.
Speaker:Because to leave is not always to abandon.
Speaker:And to come back is not just to return.
Speaker:It is to reroute, to reclaim,
Speaker:to rebuild. Governor
Speaker:Francis continues.
Speaker:>>
island at 13 years old. Back then we
Speaker:could not continue your education on the island, pass
Speaker:elementary in the sixth grade, you had to,
Speaker:um, travel abroad, whether to St. Martin, Curacao,
Speaker:Aruba, and you would stay with family
Speaker:members that you have never met or with
Speaker:complete strangers so that you could pursue
Speaker:secondary education. So,
Speaker:um, returning to Stacia each
Speaker:year during the summer, of course, as a
Speaker:young, um, girl teenager,
Speaker:you get involved in Carnaval. So that's how my
Speaker:involvement in Carnival began, with Student Night. Now
Speaker:it's known as Youth Night. Megadee would keep it and
Speaker:now we see that Shahida Fleming is organizing it.
Speaker:But back then it started with the students returning
Speaker:home. We would be the models, we would be the singers, we
Speaker:would do everything on stage and it would be a fabulous night. But
Speaker:that is how my involvement started,
Speaker:um, in um, Kusaki
Speaker:in life of volunteering on stage. And it
Speaker:became natural. And um,
Speaker:it created the platform for me to
Speaker:get to know my island better, get to use my
Speaker:talents, my skills and my knowledge.
Speaker:And um, when I completed my studies in the
Speaker:Netherlands, there was no opportunity on Station back
Speaker:then. You can imagine my
Speaker:disappointments not being able to come home and work
Speaker:here and serve. I had a
Speaker:bachelor's in communications, was not
Speaker:able to work here, and so I had no choice but
Speaker:to live and work on St. Martin. I am
Speaker:also very grateful for that opportunity because it prepared
Speaker:me for everything that came afterwards
Speaker:and coming back home in
Speaker:92. So in short, no,
Speaker:never had the ambition to be
Speaker:Island Governor. But I do recall
Speaker:some years ago I was approached
Speaker:by one of the former senators about, uh,
Speaker:the possibility of my name being nominated
Speaker:for Island Governor. That was in the period of the former Netherlands
Speaker:and Thilly. So it was quite different than it is now
Speaker:and different people on the island saying to me,
Speaker:you would make a very good candidate.
Speaker:But it was not an ambition of my own. Um,
Speaker:whether I would become the governor or not.
Speaker:My contributions to Stacia would be the same
Speaker:as they are right now.
Speaker:>> Unidentified (Podcast Host): In this episode, we've heard how Station women
Speaker:carried history. Not only through archives and
Speaker:activism, but through kitchens, council
Speaker:chambers and carnival stages,
Speaker:we followed stories passed in silence,
Speaker:resilience formed in absence and a blue
Speaker:bead, once forgotten, now reclaimed.
Speaker:And as we leave the 20th century, standing at the
Speaker:threshold of what comes next, we have to
Speaker:what does it mean to remember?
Speaker:To return? To root
Speaker:oneself in a place shaped by loss but still carrying
Speaker:the echoes of legacy?
Speaker:Stacia, like many Caribbean islands, have
Speaker:weathered centuries of leaving and returning,
Speaker:silence and speaking, shadow
Speaker:and light. And through it all, its
Speaker:people, especially women, have not
Speaker:only carried the past but carved the future from
Speaker:it. Before we close, we leave you
Speaker:with questions to carry what
Speaker:part of your past lives in
Speaker:silence? What stories
Speaker:have you inherited, not in words,
Speaker:but in gesture?
Speaker:And what would it mean to return not just
Speaker:to a place, but to the truth?
Speaker:In our next and final episode, we
Speaker:travel full circle into the 21st
Speaker:century. From 2000 to
Speaker:2025, we explore how
Speaker:Stacia continues to evolve, reckon
Speaker:and rise. And what does modern
Speaker:identity look like on an island with such deep
Speaker:roots? And how does the past still whisper
Speaker:into the present? Until
Speaker:then, keep listening.