Simon Moore, a climate activist and science communicator, brings us another dispatch from Leeds in England. As a contributor to Climactic, he's told stories of Extinction Rebellion protests, community activist groups and the first UK Climate Change Citizens' Jury. 

In this episode Simon discusses the boundary between activism and academia with Professor Julia Steinberger from the University of Leeds.

Julia Steinberger is an IPCC lead author and Professor of Ecological Economics. She studies the relationship between the use of resources (such as fossil fuels) and the performance of societies.

Simon and Julia talk about the role of scientists in our society, how researching and publishing the facts may not be enough in the face of climate crisis, and how being an outspoken academic has affected Julia's career in science.

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