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May 15, 2024 - 2 Samuel 13-15
15th May 2024 • Daily Bible Podcast • Compass Bible Church North Texas
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00:00 Welcome and Casual Chat

00:05 Days of the Week: Favorites and Least Favorites

00:46 The Challenge of Tuesdays

01:20 Diet, Sleep, and Productivity

02:36 Neighbor's Loud Party and Its Impact

05:25 Navigating Family Dynamics and Responsibilities

05:40 David's Family Drama: A Deep Dive into Second Samuel

15:41 Consequences of Sin and Leadership Failures

19:01 Final Thoughts and Encouragement

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PJ:

Hey, everybody.

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Welcome to Wednesday's edition

of the daily Bible podcast.

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What's up.

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Y'all.

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So, uh, pat Schroeder, what's your

least favorite day of the week.

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Um,

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Rod: I don't have one,

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PJ: not Wednesdays.

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Cause you get youth on Wednesday nights.

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Right?

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So I imagine that that's an exciting day.

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You get to preach, you get to

see the students, you get to.

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I mean that's, that's a highlight.

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Rod: Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I'd say so it's a, it's a, it's a heavy.

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Energetically taxing light, but

yes, it is still a highlight.

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Oh, like I have one, I think, um, maybe if

there's, I guess if there's a competition.

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Maybe.

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I don't know, um, Sunday.

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PJ: Sunday's your least favorite

day of the week, you know?

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You heard it here first folks?

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Rod: I don't know.

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I don't, I don't think, I don't think

in those categories, what's your least

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favorite day of the week, Tuesday.

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Podcast days Tuesday's up there.

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Y I.

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What's the deal with

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PJ: Tuesday.

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What's the deal with those days?

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I don't know.

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I don't know.

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I don't know.

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It's just, it.

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I like, I guess.

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It's Tuesday today.

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I just, I feel sluggish today.

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I don't know why.

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I just feel sluggish.

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You feel tired.

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If you'd like, Yeah.

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Wednesdays.

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Uh, or my main study day.

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So I, I, you know, that's

energizing Thursday.

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You know, we've got some meetings.

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We got podcasting.

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Going on Friday, the weekends there since.

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Uh, Tuesday, she's hard

to get jump-started.

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Rod: Yeah, I feel that,

I mean, I get that.

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Um, I D I see in this part of my thing

is on a Mondays I'll typically eat food

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that I don't eat throughout the week.

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And so I sleep poorly those nights.

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I can, I can track it almost

like the patterns of the sun.

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Uh, there are things that I do on Monday

that hurt my sleep on Monday nights,

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which results in a, at a slower Tuesday.

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But because you, you know, we

have our meeting in the morning.

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Uh, our staff meeting on Tuesday mornings.

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I mean, that's kind of

lighthearted easier to do.

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Don't really require a whole

bunch of a heavy lifting mentally.

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So, I mean, unless, unless I'm behind on

my Wednesday sermon, if I'm behind on my

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Wednesday, sermon, Tuesdays are incredibly

incredibly anxiety inducing because I've

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got this meeting in the morning, the

middle of the morning, which is some of

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the prime time thinking and studying.

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PJ: This has been a sore spot in our

relationship for the last sore spot.

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Rod: I'm just as a matter of

fact, And the last couple of

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years has been, it's been a year.

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So I've been doing this right.

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Yeah.

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Give or take.

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Yeah.

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Well, but even back to California,

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PJ: when we were getting ready,

it was, do we meet in the morning?

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No.

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Cause you were always like,

well, my mornings are I, you.

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I'm studying sacred, man.

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Rod: Hey, Steve Lawson said at

one of your favorite professors.

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I have

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PJ: favorites.

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Rod: You're absolutely

your hero of the faith.

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I said mornings are for

God afternoons for men.

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And I've lived by that.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, I, yeah.

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I didn't get it from him, but I use him as

my, as my go-to like, Hey, Lawson said it.

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If it's good enough for him.

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Good enough for me.

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All right, whatever.

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Fair enough.

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Hey, the, uh, the Northern

lights, did you see them?

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No man.

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I was so disappointed.

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I really wanted to drive him in.

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And try to see them.

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Well, no.

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And part of the reason why is because

I was paying attention to the forecast

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the whole afternoon, and I just

noticed it was overcast the whole

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time I was looking at the radar data.

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And it looked like the, the

overcast was pretty pervasive.

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And so I didn't even try.

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And, but.

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Um, I still stayed up late.

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Thanks to my neighbors.

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They had a very Indian birthday party.

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Yeah.

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So I was hearing that.

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I said it was loud.

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It was loud.

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I sent you the video clip of the volume.

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That was, I mean, they were, they

were not next door, next door,

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but the only thing between us, our

home and their home was a Greenway.

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And they're their gate, which

had, you know, it was one of those

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gates that have a, it's not like

a chain link, but basically you

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can see through it pretty easily.

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So there was basically nothing.

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Um, and they stopped about nine

15, so it wasn't terrible, but.

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On Saturday nights to

go to bed pretty early,

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PJ: that made me laugh because

the way you were describing it and

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you came in on Sunday morning, I

mean, You don't throw one stuff.

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Banging doors.

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Rod: I get up really early on

Saturday as I'm sure you are Sunday.

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I'm sure you do too.

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Right.

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So I try to go to bed early, right?

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I

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PJ: try to sleep, but you had me

thinking, man, they were, they

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were partying until like midnight.

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Why?

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And you were even like, I almost

called the cops, but then I

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didn't want to be that guy.

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And that's true though.

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I

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Rod: was,

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PJ: I wasn't going to call it.

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I was going to call the cops like how

miserable this must've been like one

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in the morning, two in the morning.

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And then I texted you.

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I was like, what time did they stop?

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And you're like nine, 15.

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Rod: So.

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The second, my defense, I was,

uh, I was, I was half asleep when

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I was listening to their music.

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I don't know what time they stopped.

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So I only looked at it later that day

when I went home after the church service.

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The lapsed.

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And then I was looking through

the video and I'm like, oh, I

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guess they did stop fairly early.

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But for the Gomez family, nine 15 is,

is like, that's the midnight hours.

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We've been in bed at 3:00 AM.

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We might as well be.

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I mean, cause we go to

bed early on Saturdays.

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Cause we want to be our best for

Sunday when it come ready in the

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morning, start Saturday night.

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Ready to lit.

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Yeah, exactly.

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Ready to listen.

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Ready to re.

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To engage.

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And so I felt it, I mean,

granted, it was only nine 15,

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but I felt it, I felt the lack.

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And then of course your, your vocal

chords require some good sleep too.

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So there's all those things

that I'm thinking about.

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You do think a lot.

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Yep.

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I do think a lot.

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You do.

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Why do you say it like that?

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You say it like, this is a bad thing.

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I.

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You feel judged right now?

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I'm calling my congressmen

and I'm reporting you.

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Aye.

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Aye.

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PJ: Listen, I'm going

to tell my therapist.

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You may technically get

better sleep than I do.

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I'm not here to argue that.

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But yeah, the amount of thought

process that goes into you

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getting better sleep than I do.

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Probably makes my sleep in the

end better because I'm just not

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exhausting myself thinking about.

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I'm not exhausted.

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Rod: I live my life this way.

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I think about everything

and I'm okay with that.

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No, that's true.

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This is the way God has built me.

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Should brace that.

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Yeah.

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PJ: Yeah, that's true.

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That's true.

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All right.

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Well, Hey, let's jump

into our text for the day.

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Second, Samuel 13 through 15, not

excited about this invited by, uh, yeah.

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Yeah, we weren't excited

about our last time.

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The second statement, we're still not

excited about second Samuel really?

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But here we go.

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Here we go.

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Yeah.

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Second Samuel 13.

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Um, Mm.

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Yeah.

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Th there's, there's no

way to sugarcoat this.

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Uh, this is all part of the fallout,

by the way, keep this in mind.

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This is all part of the fallout, really

so much of the rest of David's life.

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Is just the consequences of his sin.

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We've already seen one of them with the

death of his child, born to Bathsheba as

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a result of their sinful relationship.

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There.

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And now it continues.

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And this is all in.

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In fulfillment of what Nathan the

prophet said would come to David

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because of his rebellion against

the Lord and in his house is going

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to fall apart and it begins here.

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Uh, with one of his sons, Amnon

who, uh, how to an infatuation

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and unhealthy and unhelpful

infatuation with, uh, his sister.

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Um, Tamar.

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And a desire to her in a way that,

that shouldn't be in family and,

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uh, and consort consulted with

a friend who was not a friend.

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The Jonadab guys is a loser

par excellence in scripture.

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I think if there ever was one.

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And so he tells him to, to

trick the king, into sending

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Tamar, to bring him some food.

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And we want to be careful little

ears listening to this, but, but.

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Uh, Amnon does horrible things.

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And, um, you use the, uh, the.

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The star, our star P E D.

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Um, Terminology last time.

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And that's what happens here.

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And we know that to be, to be true here

for sure, because he takes her by force.

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And, uh, in afterwards, what

adds tragedy upon tragedy, he

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disgraces her and kicks her out.

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She says, please don't do this.

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Please don't send me away.

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Um, and he sends her away

disgraced and humiliated.

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And she is left to live out.

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The rest of her day is basically

unmarried because of the shame

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that she has undergone now as

a result of Amnon in his lust.

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Uh, Absalom gets word of this.

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Absalom is enraged.

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Uh, meanwhile David is, is

somewhat, um, he's somewhat

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passive in this and somewhat.

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Yeah.

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I mean, not somewhat, I guess.

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Yeah.

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To your point, very passive in

this, he doesn't do anything and.

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Uh, a thing in Absalom won't have it.

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And so Absalom comes back in and

takes matters into his own hands.

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And.

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Uh, his patient, but eventually, uh,

convinces David to send his sons,

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including, uh, Amnon to this, uh,

sheep sharing party that he was having.

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And he ends up having his

servants kill, uh, Amnon there.

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So.

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Th this is just the continued

fallout of David's sin and things

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are just falling apart left.

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And right.

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This is ugly is what is what it is.

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There's no other way to put it.

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Rod: And we're looking at

two years of time here.

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So notice in your Bible, we covered

chapter 13 pretty quickly, but at the

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top of verse 32, it says after two full

years, Absalom had done these things.

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So it took time David,

throughout this time.

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Uh, apparently does nothing.

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There's also a, a variance

reading about the reason why David

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doesn't respond to, to Absalom.

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The way that he should have.

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Um, It's here.

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Let me see here.

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It might be in your Bible.

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My mind says it here.

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It's a verse 21 king David

heard of all these things.

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He was very angry.

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That's the extent of you that, that you

get for David's reaction, but in the

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dead sea scrolls are one of them anyway.

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And the Septuagint.

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The Greek version of the old Testament,

it says, uh, but he would not punish

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his son Amnon because he loved

him since he was his first born.

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So this guy is the one

who's first in line.

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Um, at least in theory, he could

be the next has taken the throne.

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And yet David refuses to respond

to him in any, any necessary way.

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So Absalom's responses.

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As evidenced based on David's lack

of activity here, doesn't justify

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it, but it does at least add a

little bit of understanding as to

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why David refuses to do anything.

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And as you brought up in the last

podcast, I believe, no, no, no.

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This is a private conversation.

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We were talking about one of the

reasons why David May have been passive.

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It was because he felt a sense of guilt.

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Um, Our ocracy hypocrisy.

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That's the word.

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I was looking for a bit of hypocrisy

by same wall and chapter 12 of this

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book that we're writing on my life.

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There was something else that I, you

know, I did the thing and now you're

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doing the thing and I don't feel like

I'm competent to deal with your thing.

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So maybe that's it.

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Who knows, but this is clearly a

very low point of David's life.

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Absolutely.

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PJ: Yeah.

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And it goes from bad to worse because

Absalom then runs for his life because

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he's now fearful that the king is going

to avenge him or take vengeance upon

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him for what he's done here to Amnon

and in trying to defend his sister.

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And it just is.

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You think they're you, your family

puts the fun in dysfunctional.

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Th this, this family is putting

the fun in dysfunctional right now.

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It's not fun.

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It's it's horrible.

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Um, and so David.

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Eh, he loses really two sons.

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In one fell swoop here cause

absolutely takes off and.

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And meanwhile, while Absalon

has gone, as, as we pick up.

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Chapter 14 then.

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Um, Joanne.

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It doesn't like the situation.

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He just doesn't like that.

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There's not peace in the home.

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And so a job sends a woman into

king David who uses another parable

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to reveal that the king should

bring Absalom home from exile.

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And she employs David to do this.

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Eventually, David does agree and sends

Joseph to Gesher to bring Absalom home.

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Uh, but refuse to bring

him back to the palace.

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So David's not restoring

him to his position.

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David's not bringing

him back to the family.

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He's allowing him to come back

into Israel, into Jerusalem.

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Again, remember, this

is the heart of worship.

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This is the heart of

the communal identity.

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And so being away from

this was significant.

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So he's allowing him to come

back home, so to speak, but not

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back home in the sense of being

brought back into the Royal family.

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Brought back into David's confidence.

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And, uh, and so.

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In the latter part of chapter

14, then Absalom convinces job

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to persuade David to allow him to

return to his presence, to, to, to.

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Uh, still not be fully restored, but to,

to at least look like there's some sort of

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mending the fences here, uh, for otherwise

Absalom basically argues, I might as

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well have stayed where I was and could

shirt, which was on the other side of

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the Jordan, outside of the promised land.

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Uh, and job is successful

in this endeavor.

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And the chapter ends in chapter 14 with

a scene that looks like reconciliation.

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Even if it, it smacks of some shallowness

that's taking place here between the two.

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Rod: Now just to let you know again,

we're compressing timeframes here as well.

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So when we see a, the departure of apps

on the, he was there for three years.

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Um, that's what the text says here.

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I'm trying to scroll back up here.

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Verse 38 and chapter 13, Absalom fled

to Gesher and was there three years and

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then upon his return, He's back there

in Jerusalem for two years, having

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never had any contact with his father.

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So you have a lot of time elapsing here.

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Don't miss those time markers.

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They're helpful, at least, at

least in the sense of getting.

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Uh, kind of wrapping your mind

around the events as they unfold.

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There's a lot of room for festering

anger and bitterness to evolve, which.

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Uh, makes at least some sense when

you see Absalom's response to his

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father's intended reconciliation,

which by the way, this is a.

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Uh, best to shallow reconciliation.

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He came, came to the king, bowed himself

on, uh, on his face to the ground

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before the king and the king kissed

him, which is again, a good sign.

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That's what the father did in Luke

15 when he embraced his wayward son.

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Um, but it's, it's a shallow

because Absalom clearly is

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harboring things in his heart.

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PJ: It is.

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And yet it was just looking at verse 39

of chapter 13 in the spirit of the king

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longed to go out to Absalom because he was

comforted about Amnon since he was dead.

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It's a strange way to.

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Just to put what's going on and David, but

I think we see a conflicted David here.

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I think David is, is really

feeling conflicted over.

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What to do here and, and he doesn't feel

maybe like he can bring Absalom back.

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Um, because he did love Amnon and yet

he also cares for his son Absalom.

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And, and so he's just, he's

not quite sure what to do.

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And I think he's in the

situation much like a scorned.

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Uh, this is not the same, but, but a

scorned wife or a scorned husband who

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wants to reconcile what their spouse and

yet there's this measure of, I don't know.

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I don't know how I'm

gonna be able to do this.

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It's going to feel forced, especially

in the early stages of this.

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And it seems like maybe that's

David and Absalom one day, David

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finally allows him to come back.

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Rod: Do you think that David's

love for his son is disordered?

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And in other words, if it

was a good and Gabi love.

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Would he have been able to

respond differently or is

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this the kind of love that is.

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Uh, is it sentimentality?

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Is it, is it more like a man?

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You.

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You were my son.

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I had my hopes upon you

being the next king.

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Is this a godly love, or is this

the kind of love in other words?

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Uh, as, as we, as parents and parents

who are listening, look at this or

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grandparents as the case may be.

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We look at this.

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What are some of the lessons that

we may want to pull out from this

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in terms of our own parenting?

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PJ: And it's so hard because we don't.

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We've talked about this with

David and his wives, right.

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David's marriage is, we're not

like we conceive of marriage.

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David had many wives and, uh,

and, and his loyalty was, was not

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to one woman and one woman only.

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And.

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And as a result, he had many sons and

many sons from different wives as well.

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And so I, number one, don't

marry multiple spouses.

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That's an easy one.

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Yeah, that's an easy one.

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So.

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I don't know if, if Absalom was, was,

had a special place in his heart.

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I don't think this is a biblical love.

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Cause I think one of David's

bigger, biggest failures.

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Uh, besides his relationship

with best Sheba is I think David

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failed as a dad in a lot of areas.

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Now not entirely.

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I think with Solomon, a lot of in

fact, we're going to in a little

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while here, we're going to come to

one of the Psalms written by David.

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That's going to look and

sound a lot like the Proverbs.

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And you're going to hear a lot of

what Solomon writes from king David.

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And so it seems like Solomon

learned quite a bit from his dad.

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Uh, that he then took an impart

in and put into the Proverbs.

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So not across the board, but I do

think one of David's greatest failures

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was in his role as a father as well.

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And so I don't think this is a

good kind of love that we see

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Rod: here.

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Then amen to that.

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I think one of the evident failures

on David's part for his sons is

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by holding firm boundaries for

them, he should have upheld the

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law, the righteous law God's law.

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Yeah.

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He should demand of his own

family, the very same law that

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he demanded of all of Israel.

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It was a godly man.

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He knew the word, he loved the word.

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I mean, he writes so eloquently

and beautifully about the

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role that God's word has.

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And yet when it comes to his own

family, he's much more reticent.

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I think he has a, he has a wrong

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kind of love for his son and that

love, I mean, if we can call it,

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that is disordered, I would argue.

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And I think a godly man and a godly

woman when they're working through

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their own families situations.

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Has to be willing to say, look,

we're going to learn to let God's

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word speak to us on this matter.

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And that's going to be our authority,

not our feelings, not our desires.

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What does God's word say?

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And that often will clarify for

us what the right step forward is.

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PJ: Yup.

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Yeah, second Samuel chapter 15,

then, um, things go from worse to

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worser, to worstest, um, and Absalom.

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Uh, decides that he's had enough

at this point and feels like he's

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left out and persona non grata and

kind of sees the writing on the

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wall that he's not going to be the

next king because of what he's done.

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And so he sets about taking things

into his own hand and he begins to.

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Uh, steal the hearts of the people.

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He sets up camp outside the gates.

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And as people came to David at to bring

their cases before David, he kind of

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said, oh man, if only if only there

was somebody that would listen, if

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only there was somebody that would,

would hear what you have to say.

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And instead of my dad is

too busy for you guys.

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Why don't you come over here?

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Why don't you talk to me?

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And he began to

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Rod: show that he, I think

he lost respect for his dad.

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Oh yeah, totally.

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I mean, this is obviously yeah.

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But, I mean, it's, I think it's because

of David's lack of response that

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just leads him to act in these ways.

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I

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PJ: agree, man.

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I agree.

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I think when he didn't deal with

Amnon, that was the nail macaque.

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I can't respect that I'm taking over

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Rod: right.

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I am the captain now.

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PJ: Yeah.

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Look at me.

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I'm the Kevin.

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Yeah.

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So he begins to do that verses one

through six there, and then, uh,

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in verses seven through 12 that the

conspiracy grows is he goes to Hebrew.

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Now this is significant Hebrew is.

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It's not just a random place that

he goes to because this is where

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David had first been anointed king.

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Right?

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So Absalom goes to a place that has a

ton of significance, gathers the people

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to himself that he'd won over, including

one of David's own counselors in a coup

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to declare himself king over Israel.

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Uh, now this is going to happen.

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We're going to see in the future

with one of David's other sons and

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Solomon, um, and it's not going

to go well for this other son.

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And Solomon's going to have not nearly

the problem his dad has, but David's,

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pacivity again, shows up here because

David doesn't go out with his army to

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put this down and say, this is wrong.

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This is not happening.

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You're not the king.

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I'm the king.

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End of story.

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David runs.

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Uh, in an active despondent desperation.

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Uh, beginning in verse 13, D David

just takes off and flees Jerusalem,

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basically leaving it wide open

for Absalom to come in and occupy.

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This is an advocation of his role.

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This is a lack of faith in the Davidic

covenant that God had promised him.

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Eh, David knows this is not right.

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The Absalom is not the true king.

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And yet he does not stand up

because of the weak spot for his

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family, as we saw with Amnon.

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And now with Absalom.

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And he runs and he runs and, uh,

while leaving the cities, Zadok,

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the priest brings the Ark and he's

ready to take the arc with David.

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And David says, no, put the arc back.

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It belongs there.

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If the Lord delights in me, he's

going to bring me back as well.

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Uh, but as for right

now, leave the Ark there.

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Um, The counselor that had joined,

uh, with Absalom is a man named,

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uh, hit the fell and hit the fell,

uh, was one of David's counselors.

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And he betrays David and

goes to David's son Absalom.

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And David finds out that there's

another man there named who shy that

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initially wants to go with David.

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And David says, no, you stay back here.

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And may God use you to thought the counsel

of a hit the fill and we'll see that.

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Uh, in the future chapters here.

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Rod: I'd only add one more thing

here instead of hit the felt likely,

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uh, based on our best guess here,

based on the text, it seems like

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this is Bathsheba's grandfather.

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So, uh, second Samuel 11,

three and 23, 24 through 39.

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It would be tax free to take

a look at, but now this is.

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This is His grandfather, you might

understand why he lends his allegiance

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to Absalom and takes it away from David.

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There might be some additional pain

there that he seeks to remedy by

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his own means, uh, by, by rebelling,

against David's leadership.

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PJ: Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Guys as you think through this.

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These chapters here.

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I think there's, there's something

that is a clear takeaway for us.

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Uh, and that is that sin has consequences.

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We never see coming.

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Um, and, and, and that's, if David,

at this point in his life, if you

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went to David and said, Hey, was

that, was that night worth it?

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Up on the rooftop there, when you

should have been out at battle with,

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with your men, was that night worth it.

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Now that you've seen everything

that's unfolded for that, would

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you go back and do it again?

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I think of course David would

have said, no, absolutely not.

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I would not have done that again now.

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Did God use all the circumstances?

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Yes.

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Did Solomon come from Bathsheba?

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Yes.

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Uh, and so it's not as though

this is the complete ruin of.

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Of God's sovereign plan, that this

was still actually all part of

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God's unfolding sovereign plan.

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But I mean, for us, it's such a good

reminder to us that sin has consequences.

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We don't see coming.

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You can never anticipate the

full weight of your sin and the.

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The ripple effects of that.

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And so it's important for us to,

to be on guard against sin because,

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uh, the, the ugly consequences

that we see here for David's life.

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I

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Rod: can be just as ugly for ours.

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Amen to that Brill.

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And there's so many areas of our lives,

where we have these little areas of

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compromise that if we choose to give

into them, But we don't know if that's

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the first domino to fall upon a series

of painful events that will come.

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As a result of that thing.

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So we would encourage you as you

ponder the right move to make when

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you're filling out that business forum.

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And you're considering cheating

on that thing or smudging.

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This particular truth or, or telling

this particular white lie, just be aware.

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Sin rarely stays contained if ever.

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I mean, sin has reverberating effects

upon you and those whom you love.

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So be aware of that.

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Let David's life be a good example to you.

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PJ: Yeah.

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Yep.

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And keep her in your Bibles.

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Cause that's a great defense against that.

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So yes.

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And amen.

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Join us again tomorrow as

we keep reading with you.

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See

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Rod: you then.

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Bye.

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