I’ve just dropped off my youngest son at college. And rather than focus on my home being an empty nest, I like to think of it as my roomier nest.
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I hope that by sharing my story and perspective, you’ll feel less alone and understand what we’re really going through during this time.
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On Sawyer’s drop-off day, I really didn’t know how I would feel. I didn’t start the day in my big feelings, but I recognized that I’d been finding ways to procrastinate and avoid this day all summer. I really didn’t want to even think about him leaving. Even as the time grew closer, I kept myself busy with the practical pieces, the shopping, the planning.
When move-in day came, I noticed that I was grumpy and testy, which is unusual for me. When I got in my car after a physical therapy appointment, I suddenly felt so sick - nauseous and heavy, like I’d been punched in the stomach.
The closest name I could give the emotion was dread. But it wasn’t in my head. It was fully in my body. Something in my very core did not feel good. As soon as I got home, I started to cry really hard.
I pulled it together for an amazing call with the Calm Mama Club, and when I got off of Zoom, I went numb. I kept going through the motions of running errands, packing up the car and riding to Santa Barbara.
But through the whole drive, I could tell that my nervous system was on fire. I didn’t feel safe. I was anxious and on edge. I was breathing quickly and sweating. Again, it was such a physiological reaction.
We got him moved in and met up with my older son for dinner. Afterward, it was time for Sawyer to go to an orientation meeting and start his dorm life. There wasn’t really a reason for us to go back with him, so we said goodbye in front of the sushi restaurant and he drove away.
It wasn’t how I pictured it. I thought we’d go back to his dorm, I’d take some pictures, we’d have some more time. As my husband and I started driving home, I wasn’t having a ton of feelings and I got really chatty (the opposite of my reaction when we left Lincoln at school the year before).
But as we took the exit toward our house, my body went haywire. I got this overwhelming feeling in my stomach. Without getting too graphic, I made it home and spent the next 2 hours in the bathroom. It was like a physiological grief. I wasn’t thinking my feelings. I was feeling them fully in my body.
To be honest, all of this was a bit of a shock to me. I hadn’t been feeling much. I thought I was okay. But the body never lies. We store stress in our bodies, and our bodies communicate with us.
Finally, I fell asleep. When I woke up, I felt like someone had died. It was a deep, deep grief. My past experiences of grief have been physiological, too. I get very tired and achy. I need to be cozy in my bed. So that’s what I’ve been doing - getting up for the must-dos of my day and then retreating back to my bed.
All of this to say, your reaction to this change may not be what you expected. It might sneak up on you or show up in a surprising way. Whatever you feel and however those feelings come up are okay.
My youngest son moving out marks the end of my motherhood years. Some part of my identity and my existence has ended. I need to allow this chapter of my life to come to a close.
I loved raising kids, and the experience changed me on a deep level. I’ve used this opportunity to become aware, heal, evaluate and grow.
Of course, I’m still a mom. But my kids are adults. They’re grown, and I am about to embark on a new journey.
In order to move on, we have to allow ourselves to grieve. To let go of motherhood as we’ve known it so far and make room for the next stage. You can grieve and feel sorrow while also holding hope for what’s next.
I’m calling my next stage the roomier nest. With more room in my home and my life, I’ll have more time, energy and capacity to love my children and love myself more deeply.
To use the metaphor of our kids’ lives being a sporting event, I no longer have a courtside seat, but I can’t wait to hear the recap. I love hearing their stories and what’s going on in their lives. And I’ve realized that I want even more than that.
I want them to come to me before the game and share their strategy. Tell me what they’re thinking and the decisions they’re going to make. I want to be their sounding board and mentor.
In order to make that happen, I have to step back further and further. I have to let go and be okay with the transition we’re experiencing so that I can create space for what’s next.
I think this is what we all want. The end goal isn’t just to launch our kids into adulthood. We also want to have amazing relationships with them when they’re grown.
There is life on the other side of motherhood. I want you to know that it’s okay to grieve, and the next best thing is also right around the corner.
My belly is upset, but my heart is so full of love, hope and excitement.
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Welcome back to become a calm mama. I'm your host. I'm Darlyn
Speaker:Childress. I'm a life and parenting coach. And on this
Speaker:episode, I am going to share my experience
Speaker:of dropping off my
Speaker:youngest child at college.
Speaker:I have 2 kids. They are 2018.
Speaker:And last year, my older one, they're only one grade apart
Speaker:even though they're 2 years apart. Because sometimes when you have a kid with ADHD,
Speaker:they need an extra year in school to mature.
Speaker:Right? So, they're 2 22 years
Speaker:apart, 1 grade apart. So last year, I brought my son
Speaker:Lincoln, to college, and we live in Southern California.
Speaker:And he went to school in Santa Barbara, and so I dropped him off last
Speaker:year. And now this year, I
Speaker:dropped my second child off at college.
Speaker:And he's also doing the same thing his brother did. And he's in Santa Barbara,
Speaker:and he's living in the dorms, and he's doing the whole thing just like Lincoln
Speaker:did. So Lincoln is my oldest one. Sawyer is my
Speaker:younger one. And as of
Speaker:last Tuesday, so this episode is coming out, like, a week
Speaker:later, the none of my children live in my house
Speaker:anymore. So this summer, they were both
Speaker:here. It was very busy. Lots of hustle bustle. Lot
Speaker:going on. They had friends. They had, you know, traveling. Like, they were
Speaker:just around a lot and also really busy. So
Speaker:a lot of go lot going on. And then on a Friday afternoon,
Speaker:Lincoln left. He has an apartment. So he moved into his
Speaker:apartment. And then a couple days later, I drove
Speaker:Sawyer and he dropped him off at his dorm.
Speaker:And it's I wanna share a little bit about the experience. And I
Speaker:noticed that as I've talked about this with a few people that
Speaker:some moms start to feel, like, almost
Speaker:as I describe what I'm have gone through kind of like, oh,
Speaker:my god. Like, they kinda feel dread about this life
Speaker:stage that I'm gonna talk about in this experience that I'm gonna talk about.
Speaker:And I really don't want you to feel afraid
Speaker:or worried or, like, you know, you don't even have to put yourself
Speaker:in my shoes or imagine yourself going through this experience,
Speaker:especially if you have little ones like 45 or, you know,
Speaker:even 7 or 8. Like, you can't really imagine this
Speaker:experience. But for some of you some of you listening to this podcast, you
Speaker:know, you are high schoolers or you are already an empty
Speaker:nester or, like, I'm calling it a roomier nester.
Speaker:And so this might really be helpful for you to kind of, you know, feel
Speaker:like you're not alone in this process and maybe understand a little bit of what
Speaker:you went through. So I say all that because I don't I
Speaker:never want to put out an episode and then have you freak
Speaker:out. So, you know, just
Speaker:listen as if you're listening to, like, a mentor talk to you about something that
Speaker:they went through, and you can just kinda put it in, like, put a
Speaker:little pin in your heart and in your head and be like, someday I'll
Speaker:listen to this episode again. And, like, I'll understand what she's talking about.
Speaker:Okay. So on the Tuesday morning,
Speaker:well, let me just say this. I did not I did not
Speaker:know how I would feel. I was not in my big
Speaker:feelings necessarily. I was kind of avoiding
Speaker:packing first packing soya up, buying things. I could tell
Speaker:all summer that I was somewhat avoidant of what was coming.
Speaker:But I, you know, was also like, I did it last year. I know what
Speaker:to get. I'll just get the basics, and it's fine. And but I could also
Speaker:tell that I was really, like, procrastinating. And I
Speaker:noticed procrastination, there's always a wisdom to it, or
Speaker:there's an invitation to explore why you're
Speaker:procrastinating. So anytime I don't do something in the
Speaker:timeline that I would typically do it or the timeline that I told myself I
Speaker:would do it, instead of judging myself and being like, oh my god, what's wrong
Speaker:with you? You're so lazy. Get your shit together. I usually get
Speaker:curious like, hey, darling. Why are you not doing that?
Speaker:Like, what are you resisting there? Or what what is maybe your wisdom, your
Speaker:intuition telling you there? So I was procrastinating a little bit
Speaker:and noticed that I just really didn't wanna think about him leaving.
Speaker:And so I knew there was some emotion, but I don't know
Speaker:that like, Lincoln laughed and then did bitty
Speaker:bopity came home, got gathered stuff. Like, I was just in the practical
Speaker:parts of it. Okay. So Tuesday morning, we know we're gonna leave, like, around 3
Speaker:or 4 and drive to Santa Barbara. And
Speaker:I had physical therapy because, you know, I had foot
Speaker:surgery not so long ago. So I went to physical therapy,
Speaker:and I was grumpy in my physical therapy appointment. I could
Speaker:tell I was like testy and I was a little grumpy and that's always
Speaker:interesting to me when I'm grumpy because I'm usually not. So I was a
Speaker:little curious. I'm like, I've got something going on. Then I leave
Speaker:and I get in the car. And all of a sudden, I feel
Speaker:sick to my stomach. Like, my stomach hurts
Speaker:and it feels I'm nervous or I'm anxious
Speaker:or I'm gonna throw up. Like, I don't know what's going on. I just
Speaker:feel like this is how dread shows up for
Speaker:me where I get sort of a heavy,
Speaker:like, like, bids punch in the stomach. Like, my stomach aches. Like, it
Speaker:gets really tight. It hurts. And that was happening. And I was
Speaker:like, Okay. I'm feeling
Speaker:something. Like, it was like, I am feeling
Speaker:dread if I could describe it. But what was interesting is that
Speaker:the emotion wasn't in my head. It was like in my body,
Speaker:like in my core in the center of
Speaker:me was like tight and not
Speaker:not feeling good. So I got home
Speaker:and I immediately, like,
Speaker:started crying. Like, I went in and my husband was in his office and he's
Speaker:like, hey. How was PT? And I just, I don't know. I just, like, let
Speaker:go and I started to cry really hard. And I was like, today, he's leaving.
Speaker:I don't even know if I said any words. I just felt like,
Speaker:it's not even sadness. Like, I can't describe it besides saying
Speaker:dread. And then I had to call mama club. We meet on
Speaker:Tuesdays at 9:30 if you wanna join us. You're welcome. And I got on
Speaker:the call and just shared with the mamas
Speaker:what I was going through, and then I kinda got it together and a coach.
Speaker:We had an amazing session, you know, talked about all
Speaker:the things that moms wanna talk about. And then I got off the phone. I
Speaker:got off the Zoom with them. I, you know, canceled, you
Speaker:know, end the meeting, whatever. And then I
Speaker:don't have any other clients that day because I had cleared my schedule so that
Speaker:I could move Sawyer. And I just go
Speaker:numb. Like I just go numb. Like I just am not
Speaker:really thinking or feeling much. I'm just going through the
Speaker:motions. He has a couple errands to run. We pack
Speaker:up. He drives and because he took
Speaker:he took a car with him, and I drove in his car. And my husband
Speaker:came up a little bit while later. And the
Speaker:the whole drive, I can tell that my nervous
Speaker:system is on fire. Like, I'm not I do not
Speaker:feel safe. And that is true whenever my kids drive, really.
Speaker:I feel a lot of anxiety about them driving this.
Speaker:But I was like, on edge. I was like, woah, but it was very
Speaker:physiological, like my, I was having like, like, my breath
Speaker:was coming faster, and I just felt tight and like I was
Speaker:sweating and stuff. So having this experience,
Speaker:we get there that, you know, get him checked in, get his
Speaker:room key, you know, move everything in place looks
Speaker:cute. We realized we don't have a lot. Like, we we brought everything we
Speaker:needed except one extension cord. And,
Speaker:we had planned to meet meet up with my older son Lincoln, meet
Speaker:up with my husband, and the 2 of us meet for sushi. We have a
Speaker:little tradition. So we were gonna meet for sushi dinner, come back to Sawyer's
Speaker:place, and Kevin was gonna come with me. And
Speaker:so we go, we realized it's getting late. We meet at the restaurant.
Speaker:We pick up the extension cord from Target. I'm sharing
Speaker:all this even though it's not that important, but sometimes people care about the details.
Speaker:And then it's we eat our sushi dinner, and it is getting a little bit
Speaker:late into the evening. It's, like, 7, 7:30 or something.
Speaker:And Sawyer has an town hall
Speaker:meeting orientation thing that evening that starts,
Speaker:like, at 7:30 or something. So he's gonna
Speaker:go back and go, like, start his dorm life. And there's not
Speaker:really a reason for us to go back with him because he's kind of
Speaker:all moved in. And so we say goodbye
Speaker:to him in front of their sushi sushi
Speaker:restaurant just on, like, the street. Like, okay. Hug kiss.
Speaker:Bye. Good luck. And he gets in the car and he drives away. And I
Speaker:was just like, woah. Okay. That wasn't how I pictured it, but
Speaker:whatever. I guess he's fine. I didn't even take a picture of the dorm
Speaker:room. I really thought we were going back. So that was kinda odd. Anyway,
Speaker:Lincoln goes back to his apartment. We get in the car. We drive. I decide
Speaker:to drive because my husband had driven up. I was like, I'll drive. Bippity
Speaker:boppity tick chit chat. I'm talking, talking, talking, which well
Speaker:with Lincoln when he left, once we dropped him
Speaker:off and I got in the car, I could not speak
Speaker:for 40 minutes. I was, like, in shock. I was just like,
Speaker:I just stared out the window, and I felt extremely sad.
Speaker:That was my feeling with my first leaving. And then with
Speaker:Sawyer, I didn't really have any feelings. Like, I was like, well, that was weird.
Speaker:Okay. Bye. Driving, chitchat, blah blah blah about, you
Speaker:know, their apartments and the con you know, the dorm and blah blah
Speaker:blah. Like, kinda like really chatty. And
Speaker:then as we get off of the freeway, we're,
Speaker:like, exiting to our home. All of a
Speaker:sudden, my body starts
Speaker:to go haywire. I don't know how else to describe it.
Speaker:And not just my body, but my stomach. And I don't wanna
Speaker:be too graphic here, but I don't know how else to talk about it.
Speaker:But it was like everything in my
Speaker:body turned to liquid. It was like like
Speaker:my water was gonna break or something. It was just
Speaker:like a overwhelming, whooshy feeling in my
Speaker:stomach. And I'm driving, and I'm like, oh my god. I don't know if I'm
Speaker:gonna make it home because I feel like I I'm
Speaker:gonna, like, release my bowels. You know? And
Speaker:I Kevin was joking me with me and I was like, oh my god. I
Speaker:don't know. And he's like, you gotta make it. Right? You know, like little kids.
Speaker:And then I pull in the garage, I get home and I proceed
Speaker:to release every part,
Speaker:everything in my body, I spent the next 2 hours in the bathroom
Speaker:just letting go of everything
Speaker:inside of me. It felt like
Speaker:I I don't know how to describe it. It was like a physiological
Speaker:grief. My body released and let go
Speaker:of everything in it. It was
Speaker:as if I was emptying myself out.
Speaker:And I didn't really think about this till the next day, but, like,
Speaker:they call this the empty nest stage. And
Speaker:it was like my body was emptying itself.
Speaker:I did not have a lot of emotion in my head.
Speaker:Like a lot of times I'm thinking my thoughts and I'm thinking my
Speaker:feelings. But in this scenario, I was
Speaker:feeling in my body, my experience
Speaker:and releasing and letting go and emptying
Speaker:everything out. I was joking. I was like, I guess my
Speaker:body took the assignment literally of like empty nest. Do you
Speaker:know, like my nest in my belly in my body was
Speaker:like emptying. Okay. I won't go into any more details. I promise.
Speaker:And that was surprising to me to have
Speaker:such a physiological reaction. It was a little bit of a shock, to
Speaker:be honest, because I really had not been feeling
Speaker:much. I was, like, just okay.
Speaker:But, apparently, you know, the body never lies. The body keeps
Speaker:score. The body always tells the truth. We store all our stress in
Speaker:our bodies, and our bodies communicate with
Speaker:us. And that was what was happening. And I had no choice,
Speaker:but to be in the experience and to
Speaker:just lay in bed and back and forth and just letting go.
Speaker:Eventually, after a couple of hours, I was able to fall asleep. I woke
Speaker:up and I felt like someone had
Speaker:died. I was
Speaker:in deep, deep grief.
Speaker:I know what grief feels like. I've talked about it on this podcast
Speaker:because 3 people very, very close to me
Speaker:all died, like, 1 year apart of each other.
Speaker:And there's this very physiological experience I
Speaker:have when I am grieving. I get very tired. I get
Speaker:very achy and I like take to my bed. I just, I've got to go
Speaker:to sleep. I've got to lay down. I've just got to be cozy. I gotta
Speaker:be in bed. And because I have experienced that, I kind of
Speaker:understand that it's not forever and I need to listen to it. I can't
Speaker:fight it. I just give into it. And I trust the
Speaker:wisdom of my body and what it's telling me. And so I did
Speaker:my I I was like, oh my god. I I gotta get up and do
Speaker:I had a little bit of work to do. So I got up. I did
Speaker:my day, and then I immediately got back into bed. And
Speaker:I just was grieving, and it was like an existential
Speaker:grief. And here is what I was thinking about.
Speaker:I was thinking about how this lee
Speaker:departure, my youngest son moving out, my older son moving
Speaker:out, no one living in my house anymore, that this
Speaker:really marked the end of my motherhood
Speaker:years. And I know that that might
Speaker:be really hard for some of you to hear
Speaker:that it's a season of your life and then it
Speaker:ends. Now, am I still a mom? Yes. Do they live
Speaker:close? Yes. Like, I get it. I'm not I
Speaker:know they didn't die. But in some some identity,
Speaker:some role, some part of me and my existence is
Speaker:ended. It's over. I'll never have little kids
Speaker:again. I won't have kids in k through
Speaker:12. You know, they're adults. I They're they're grown.
Speaker:And I am about to embark on the next stage of
Speaker:motherhood, the next journey, the next part of it.
Speaker:And in order to do that well,
Speaker:I have to grieve the end of this stage in order to
Speaker:create room as I'm calling the stage the roomier
Speaker:nest, not empty, but roomier as they create room for
Speaker:the next relationship and room for what comes after this.
Speaker:I need to grieve and let go of what has already happened.
Speaker:That doesn't mean that I need to, like, regret
Speaker:anything or rechange anything. Like maybe I do have
Speaker:to reconcile some of the mistakes I've made. Maybe that's part of the grief
Speaker:process, but I know that I need to allow for this
Speaker:chapter of my life to come to a close. It's not
Speaker:the end of the book, but it is the end of this chapter. And it
Speaker:was beautiful. I loved
Speaker:raising kids as hard as it is and how
Speaker:draining it is. The life experience
Speaker:of raising children changed me on such a deep
Speaker:level. I am not the same person I was at
Speaker:29 when Lincoln was born.
Speaker:I'm no longer
Speaker:that person. I have used this opportunity
Speaker:of parenting to grow, to
Speaker:evaluate, to become aware, to heal. It's
Speaker:been a lifetime, like, opportunity, really.
Speaker:I've loved it. And it's no longer the
Speaker:same. It's different, and it's changing. And that's okay.
Speaker:It's okay for me to grieve and to let go
Speaker:and to empty out and to have
Speaker:sorrow while also holding hope for what's next. I
Speaker:can I can hold both things? I can be
Speaker:sad that something has ended while also being
Speaker:happy of the new thing that's coming. I can grieve my
Speaker:kids little baby childhood selves while also
Speaker:loving their young adult self. Being able to hold
Speaker:those 2 tensions can be really confusing. We can oftentimes
Speaker:squish one emotion. We push it down and
Speaker:repress it in order to make space. I always think like
Speaker:weaponizing gratitude. Right? Using gratitude against yourself.
Speaker:Like I shouldn't feel bad because or I shouldn't feel
Speaker:sad because because they live so close, because they are so happy,
Speaker:because this is what's supposed to happen. Like, I don't need to rationalize
Speaker:myself out of my experience, and you don't either.
Speaker:If your little one has gone to kindergarten and you're grieving preschool, grieve
Speaker:it. Yeah. They're not gonna be that little. If you have
Speaker:a middle schooler, and and they don't want you to lay in bed with
Speaker:them anymore, it's okay to feel sad about that.
Speaker:It's okay to feel whatever you're feeling. And
Speaker:it's okay if your body decides to tell you what you're
Speaker:feeling because that's what happened in my case.
Speaker:Now, I want to leave you with a couple of thoughts about what's next.
Speaker:What does it look like after this? Because I think we
Speaker:sometimes, like, if you're listening, you're like, that's so
Speaker:sad. I I want to say no, I have so much hope
Speaker:about what I'm creating. There is so much room.
Speaker:It's roomier now. I have more time and energy and
Speaker:capacity to love my children and love myself at deeper
Speaker:levels. And I've been thinking a lot about
Speaker:this this experience of motherhood. And I've been
Speaker:using the analogy of, like, being at the game.
Speaker:Right? Being at the game of their life and how when they're
Speaker:real little, like, you're on the court, really. You know, you're like, pick up the
Speaker:ball, throw it this way. Like, you're really, really involved when they're super
Speaker:little, like, you know, 1 to 6 or whatever. And then
Speaker:slowly you start to, like, just kinda watch what they're doing, but you're really
Speaker:close. You're in the front seat, like you're in the front of front of the
Speaker:the front row. You have a front row view of your child growing and
Speaker:developing, and it's beautiful. And every year as they get older
Speaker:and older, you move back a row of those bleachers.
Speaker:And when they're teenagers, you're at the, like, bleachers, like the
Speaker:nosebleeds. And really, it kinda feels like your nose is gonna bleed all
Speaker:the time because it's just so stressful. But you're in the nosebleeds
Speaker:section. Like, you're there, but you're not really that close.
Speaker:And you can't really be, like, you know, yelling at them from the sideline. Like,
Speaker:you're further back. And now as with young
Speaker:adults, I feel as if I'm no longer at the
Speaker:game. I'm not in the gymnasium
Speaker:anymore. I'm not watching the game.
Speaker:I don't have like, tickets to it. Right? I don't get to
Speaker:see it. Sometimes I get invited to get a VIP box, and I get to
Speaker:watch something that they're doing or participate in part of their lives. But for the
Speaker:most part, I'm getting the highlights real. Right? I'm getting
Speaker:the recap. I'm getting the the, you know, synopsis
Speaker:of what happened because I wasn't there. And that's fine. I
Speaker:love it. I love hearing their stories. I love them telling me
Speaker:what's going on in their lives. It's beautiful.
Speaker:And that is why we do what we do,
Speaker:why we put in the time, why we parent the way we parent because we
Speaker:want our kids to want to tell us what's been going on
Speaker:in their life. We want the highlights real, right?
Speaker:We want the story. We want them to tell us their
Speaker:experience of playing that game. And I
Speaker:realized that that's not all I
Speaker:want actually in this next stage of parenting.
Speaker:I want them to come to me before they play the
Speaker:game and say, hey, this is my strategy. This is what I'm
Speaker:thinking. Here's where I'm at. Here's the decisions I'm gonna
Speaker:make. What do you think? You got any input?
Speaker:Or just as a sounding board, we're moving away
Speaker:from parenting and into mentoring. And
Speaker:allowing that to be created means
Speaker:that I have to step back further and further. I have to grieve my sadness.
Speaker:I have to let go. I have to be okay with the change and the
Speaker:transformation and the the transition that we
Speaker:are experiencing so that I can create space
Speaker:for what is next. And this is what I want. This is what
Speaker:I think that we're all here. We're not just getting our kids
Speaker:launched into adulthood, into career or college or
Speaker:whatever it is. That's not enough,
Speaker:really because we don't want our kids to just grow up
Speaker:and, like, feel disconnected from them. That's the whole, like, what we all want. We
Speaker:want them to, like, have a relationship with us when they're grown. So what is
Speaker:that relationship? What I'm seeing it as, what I
Speaker:wanna create, I want the highlights real. I want the recap,
Speaker:right? And I wanna do the pregame,
Speaker:not the drinking type of pregame. But I wanna pregame with them. What's
Speaker:going on? What's your plan? What are you thinking? What are your what decisions are
Speaker:you gonna make? What is it? I'll tell you a
Speaker:simple little funny thing that happened at that sushi
Speaker:dinner with Lincoln and Sawyer and Kevin and I.
Speaker:So Sawyer, I think, was in his own world because he had, like, moved into
Speaker:the dorm. Now he's at dinner with his family, and now he's going back. And
Speaker:I think he was just kinda like, you know, he just ate a bunch of
Speaker:sushi and was kinda quiet. But Lincoln, he had already moved into his
Speaker:apartment and we hadn't really talked to him. So he says, hey,
Speaker:mom, I wanna run something by you. Oh,
Speaker:mamas. That was music to my ears. That's when I
Speaker:realized, like, that is what I want. I want, hey,
Speaker:mom, I wanna run something by you. I wanna get your
Speaker:input on this. I wanna hear your opinion on this. That's the
Speaker:pregame. That's the, hey, let's talk it through. I wanna be part of the
Speaker:strategy. Not like me do it. I want them to come up with strategy and
Speaker:just run it by me. I wanna be the mentor. So he's like, mom, I'm
Speaker:gonna run something by you. And this is what made me I'm laughing because this
Speaker:is what he offered to me. He said, hey. So his apartment has
Speaker:a little patio when he has 3 roommates. So there's 4 of them in a
Speaker:2 bedroom apartment. He says, mom, we
Speaker:can get a hot tub on Facebook Marketplace for free.
Speaker:All we have to do is move it. What do you think? You think we
Speaker:should get a hot tub and put it on our patio?
Speaker:I was like, well, as your guarantor
Speaker:of your apartment, I'm gonna say no. I don't think that's a good
Speaker:idea. And so he was laughing. He was also
Speaker:saying, like, they hadn't done their dishes. I'm like, you just said you haven't done
Speaker:your dishes yet. How do you think you're gonna manage a hot
Speaker:tub? So it was really funny. It was a silly example, but it really
Speaker:him just saying, hey. I wanna run something by you. I was, like, oh,
Speaker:yes. This is where we're headed here.
Speaker:This is what we're doing. This is why we're we've I've worked so hard.
Speaker:And yes, I'm grieving. Yes. My
Speaker:stomach is in knots and I'm, you know, definitely
Speaker:very, very, very tired. It's like 20 years of fatigue
Speaker:is all hitting me at one time. I have been in it
Speaker:physically and my heart has been
Speaker:so full, so full of love and hope and
Speaker:excitement for them. It's like my belly is
Speaker:upset, but my heart is full.
Speaker:So I wanted to give you that story and help you see that
Speaker:there's life on the other side and of motherhood
Speaker:of any stage you're at and that you're gonna grieve these stages as you
Speaker:go through them. And that's okay. And that the next
Speaker:best thing is also right around the corner.
Speaker:So if this spoke to you, please let me know. Share share
Speaker:it with your friends. Connect with me on Instagram. Reply to the email
Speaker:if you're on my email list. Tell me what your thoughts were. And I
Speaker:just I'd love to hear from you so much. It makes my day.
Speaker:And if you wanna work with me at all, of course, you can join come
Speaker:on my club and we can talk about where you're at in your life stage
Speaker:or book a consultation with me. So I'm just gonna leave you with
Speaker:that story and thanks for listening and thanks for
Speaker:being just an amazing podcast audience. I I just
Speaker:feel so loved and bolstered by all of you. And I
Speaker:know that you're learning so much from the podcast, and I appreciate whenever you tell
Speaker:me that you shared it or or you found it from a friend, it just
Speaker:makes me so happy. So thanks for listening, and I will talk
Speaker:to you next time.