In this episode, I'm joined by Neysa Garcia-Muhammad, an intuitive money mindset coach who helps entrepreneurs heal their relationship with money. Tune in as Neysa shares her journey to entrepreneurship, and how healing can transform not only your financial journey but also lead to personal growth. Plus, we dive into an enlightening impromptu coaching session that showcases the extensive benefits of healing work. This episode is packed with valuable insights and practical advice that can propel your entrepreneurial journey forward. Join us for an important discussion on integrating healing into financial well-being.

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I'm telling you. It is so important to go networking because you meet so many incredible people and fortunately for me at this networking event, I met Neysa Garcia-Mohammed, an intuitive money mindset coach that helps entrepreneurs heal their relationship with money. Through her corporate career and years as a full time entrepreneur, she has transformed her sensitivity from a perceived weakness into her superpower.

I hope you gain so much insight from our conversation and enjoy the show. I really wanted it to be a conversation and I know you and I have talked in your podcast and I really enjoyed just the natural flow of things and the conversation. I do have some questions that I can answer. But I do want to give you room for, you know, whatever comes to your head and, uh, and to like make this a conversation where it's really just us talking and getting to know more about you and your journey.

Neysa: Oh my gosh, this is so exciting I'm Neysa, and I'm a money mindset coach and Wrapping up my certification with trauma of money.

I Support women in business and executives with healing their relationship with money this is Collective work. This is work that empowers you to be your best self and empowers you to be a better leader. And it is so much more than financial literacy, earning and bookkeeping. There is this inner story and inner narrative that tends to inform our thoughts, our beliefs and our actions ultimately.

Beatriz: Awesome. Thank you so much. And this is why I wanted to have this conversation with you because I, I for me healing is such an important value. It's such a A value that I bring into my journey as a business owner and a business coach So I knew that I needed to have this conversation with you about how you bring it into your financial journey and how you embed it into your what you know about finances your financial well being and uh What does that look like for [00:04:00] you?

I am so excited to learn more. So can you tell us a little bit about how you became interested in the connection between healing and financial health?

Neysa: So it really started with the fact that I was a personal finance nerd. Um, even before entrepreneurship, I was listening to all the podcasts, reading all the book, atomic habits for our work week.

Um, The afford anything podcast. And, you know, there's this, there's this platform that I'm not sure if it still exists, but it was called rich and regular. And I was absorbing all of the different conversations about retiring early and being financially independent and not having to work and taking hiatuses and how people plan for that and just really making your money work for you.

And as soon as you turned your head to the left, you'd be like, well, that person obviously doesn't work very hard. So what the fuck? And we never examined that. Like you just kind of separate yourself and go, well, that's true for them, but not for you. And I accepted that until I couldn't. And I was like, what is going on here?

Being educated about it isn't enough. It's not enough to say, I know that I should have an IRA. I know that I should save for taxes. I know that I should plan for my vacations. every year or whatever. It wasn't enough. Not to mention what I was being prescribed didn't feel totally, totally aligned, right?

It's almost like the standard of beauty. They're being told, Oh, you should be thin and lighter. I'm like, well, that doesn't work for me, obviously. And then you're like, Okay. Well, I need a different standard. I need a different set of values. I need a different way of looking at things in order to feel like my money reflects who I really am.

We're talking about value and experience and now it's shifting. And I was like, this is actually my favorite thing to talk about. Like every time I talk about this topic or help someone through this, whether it's through a conversation, the energy that I get is like it overflows. Right. And so after reading the big leap.

I get really excited. My favorite thing to tell people is anything that really just allows them to remember their truth. Um, instead of just what they've been told. And I'm noticing, I'm noticing like, huh, I could do this all day, every day. And that's not true for most things. And so finally, at the top of this year, I said, all right, enough is enough.

Beatriz: Yeah. That's a big journey right there. It's a big journey. It's very similar actually to the journey that I also experienced when I was trying to think about what kind of business I wanted to start. I knew I wanted to start a business and I was the same, the same trajectory unfolded for me where I was reading a lot about business and reading all of these different books about business and when it comes time to actually do the actions that it takes to say, okay, I have an online business and now I need to present myself as a business coach.

I was essentially trying to get my license in California and then I was like, why am I trying to do that? I don't want to do that. But yet I felt this need to go in that direction because I wasn't sure if I could go in this other direction that I wanted to go in. And even though I. I was learning about it and it was exciting but all of these things came up for me that I wasn't that if I would have addressed probably in like therapy or in other ways where I could begin to really [00:11:00] reflectively think about who I am and my truth and what authenticity means for me And all of these questions I I totally understand that because it just comes up like if you don't address it.

It's like you, it'll come up in other ways that where you don't want them to come up right when you're trying to break through barriers and learn about something else and it's sort of like, I think it feels sort of like running away. from something when you're not taking the time to address or heal through something that it is tough to address and heal from like you go in a different direction but no matter how much you try to avoid it or run away from it somehow it still comes up like it still stops you somehow and doing what you what you really want to do.

Because I think that those are very Distinct lens, you know. Yeah, it was

Neysa: through my own healing actually, you know. Yeah. Because it got to a point where I was investing in programs and not getting results. Programs that were working really well for other people, that had a proven track record, that were great programs, and I have no regrets in joining them, they were great programs, but they weren't working for me.

Neysa: now it was like, well, what's the missing piece? Why can't I, why, when I take these actions, it's not aligned. Why, when this person is telling me, Hey, here's a solution to your problem. And my body, I can't receive that, or I can't take action on that. Why doesn't this feel like the right next step? Yeah. So now you can't just go to a coach that says, follow my system, follow my process, my proprietary process that I paid 5, 000 to go and get trademarked.

Now you're like, well, that process isn't going to work for me because do you even understand the problem? Do I even understand my problem? Yeah. So, um, I started going to healers, even if they were coaches, but I started going to people who had a spiritual lens or just straight up healers. Because we could explore the problem together.

Beatriz: You

Neysa: have the potential, you have the answer. And all I'm going to do is facilitate your discovery of that. That felt a lot safer. That's not safer as in less risky.

It felt like. Oh, you see me. I felt like I, I didn't have a problem. I had an opportunity. I started to feel like, okay, maybe what I don't need is a prescription. Maybe I need support. And that paradigm shift is what got me through the healing. I started doing hypnotherapy. I started working with folks who would look at your timeline from an ancestral perspective, even your own life and see the patterns.

And you have no idea where it came from. How do you get an opportunity when everyone else is looking for opportunities and can't find them? How are these, the people just as you need them showing up in your life? Like there's so much. For lack of a better word, , luck involved. And for lack of a better word, serendipity involved.

Or you can go to a coach and you have to, and it's great to have both. But for me, and I am a coach, but offering that those other pieces of hypnosis and doing those thought exercises and somatic exercises and taking a moment to get really curious. Reveals massive, massive moments for my clients, and you can't tactic your way through that.

Yeah. And so finally when I understood that, I was like, Oh my God, I can help so many people because they already know what to do. They're just stuck.

Beatriz: Mm hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, my God. That's incredible. I love that so, so much. You're so right. It's, it, to see the way that you help people, not through, like, a strategy or a program or a, you know.

Like, I know exactly what you need, and here's the exact way that you can fix that problem. And, but it's so tough when some, especially somebody that's still getting to know who they are as somebody, Operating within entrepreneurship or business. I feel like, especially within business and entrepreneurship, when you decide to start your own business, because perhaps you want to make your own money, you know, or you want to create a, another way to make your own money with your own knowledge, you know, it's very deep work.

Nothing, no solution is gonna work if you, if you're not doing the healing work first, the depth work first. Um, and so I'm so. It's such a hidden gap. It's so hard to see that. And a lot of people don't even know they need it. They don't. They're just like, I guess that program didn't

Neysa: work. And I have to say, even the programs that don't work, they teach you something about yourself.

Like, I learned that for the most part, one on one support is best for me. Like, in a group setting, it has to be intimate. For me to like you, most people don't do group very well. Most people cannot facilitate everyone feeling supported in the setting very well. You have to know things about yourself to even know what format is best to consume things in.

Beatriz: And

Neysa: some of them just taught me, Okay, this is what I need, and this is what I don't need. And you can always take something out of it that will pay dividends later.

But if you're not, like, on a simple level, if you don't think that you're beautiful, and somebody calls you beautiful, you won't be able to receive that. They'll be like, I mean, they probably just go around telling everybody that they're beautiful. But when you feel beautiful, somebody calls you beautiful, you're like, thank you.

Beatriz: Exactly. Exactly. So, so good. So true. I, I don't have any more like words for that. It's so true. It's so true. And it, you can't receive support. Unless you're ready to receive it. And like you said, yeah, , there, there are amazing program solutions and strategies out there that you can implement today and start doing tomorrow and start seeing results in three days, you know, like, of course, but if you're not there to meet yourself where you're at, or like you said, I love what you said earlier about the prescription versus the support, right?

implement the, like, take the prescription if you, if you don't know what kind of support you need. And, um, and I guess that's, that would be my next question to you is like, what would you say is the, is a way to kind of begin to get in tune with yourself around needing prescription versus. Support or maybe, and maybe do you need both at the same time?

Like, you know, and I love how you mentioned that there were programs that taught some that still made you learn something about yourself. And so what would you say is a way for people to get in tune with what they needed in terms of either prescription, a solution, a direct, a direct solution or. Being, having the right support.

I think

Right. And there's emotional charge, then that's inner work. If you show up and you say, it's been about a year, I update my brand photos every year, and it's time for me to update brand photos. What's your availability. That's, you know, you're like, cool. This is what I need to do.

Beatriz: Yeah.

Neysa: Right. So. You can, your emotions are not something to run away from, not because it's the holistic thing to do, but because they have really valuable messages for you.

Neysa: right.

Beatriz: And, and, and I have found myself in those moments to where I'm like, I don't want to just create just because I have to create. Right, right. I don't, I hate that. And so, and I tug at myself for that because I'm like, I want to be consistent. I want to be consistent. And yet I also want to feel authentic.

Like I want my words, my message, my content, everything to come from a place that's authentic

Neysa: and

Um, and you want

Neysa: to do a quick exercise because let's do it. The perfect. Opportunity. Let's go. So, my first question is, you said something about, but I want it to be authentic. What about posting consistently feels inauthentic to you? That's a great

It's the, the face value emotion is like, Oh, I'm going to stay top of mind, stay top of mind. But then, emotion that's gnawing at, gnawing at me from behind is, is the content that you're creating on the fly or like, because you need to put something out, is that, do you believe that, you know? Because I feel like I, I think very deeply.

Or am I, am I just , showing up imperfectly? Or do I even believe in that? Or like, you know, it's just so it's like a web of like emotions and thinking that at some point I'm like, stop it. And post it and I know like one word that often grounds me or that I come back to a lot when I'm like going through this process of mine or this cycle of mine is accountability because I'm like, you know what, if I am going to post this, hopefully it resonates with somebody.

Neysa: who in your life, whether they're still in your life or someone from the past questions you this much,

About just in general, just questions you like when, if you were to say, Hey, I'm going on a walk, they'd be like, when are you coming back? How long are you going to be there? Where are you going? Is there anyone in your life that questions your every move to this degree?

Neysa: afraid of? What was she protecting you from?

Beatriz: I think as a mom, you know, you're just afraid.

family members and and I totally get it right because you know we grew up in I grew up in South Central like it's a very rough neighborhood and we grew up seeing some things but um but I would say like if if anyone comes to mind that does that it would be my mom for sure yeah.

Neysa: So we've now established that this pattern of questioning yourself is not your pattern it's someone else's pattern.

So So now, really, can you think of any benefits to holding on to the pattern of questioning yourself?

Beatriz: I mean, not really, to be honest, because if I ground myself back to that word, that accountability, then why do, why, why go there in the first place, you know? Why question myself in the first place?

So if you continue to question yourself, some part of you finds a benefit to doing so. Some part of you finds safety in the constant questioning.

Beatriz: Could

Neysa: you identify what part of you feels like holding on to this?

Neysa: So let's do a little, a little parts work and have a conversation with the part of you that wants to be and feel safe. So, we'll just kindly ask that all the other voices in the room hang out in the lobby in the waiting area while we have a one on one conversation with the part of you that wants to be safe.

What do you think that they're trying to tell you?

Beatriz: The part of me that's trying to be safe.

I guess maybe they're trying to tell me something.

Because they want your attention.

Neysa: Not yet. It's on my list. It's on my list.

Beatriz: So, but essentially I'm thinking about is there a little self doubt character in my brain console right now trying to take over my little, my, like the con the entire console and trying to protect me, right?

To protect me. And, I guess that it would be telling me, if it's speaking through me, it's trying to tell me to, um,

Neysa: Yeah. What do you have? So think of your higher self, your inner knowing. The most authentic version of you that knows the truth about what you're really capable of and has all of the wisdom of your many lifetimes.

What do you, self, have to say to this part? What do you have to say to them? They've voiced their opinion. They've raised their concern. It's like, okay, I'm listening. What is your response to that?

I've prepared myself enough to put myself out there. I've, it's the way that we grow, right? Like even when we're uncomfortable, it's how we grow. It's how we learn. Mistakes are, are going to be made for sure, right? Mistakes are going to be made for sure. So be okay with the mistakes and be okay with. the opportunity for growth.

And so I see you self doubt and, and we'll like, we'll bounce back. We're resilient.

Beatriz: know.

Because that feels like, what can I tangibly do, right, to like, keep her there?

Neysa: It doesn't have to be tangible, right? It's like, if you were really, really upset, and I was like, and you're like, crying, and you're like, please, I don't want to go, and you're crying, you're crying, your hair's a mess, your eyes are puffy, and I'm like, oh, it's okay, do you think that would be enough to calm you down?

Maybe not. Maybe not. What would it take when you're in that state? To feel like, all right, you're right. I feel okay about this now.

Beatriz: I'm thinking it's always been support. Like, support from other people. Mm. Right. Support from other people like speci, especially people that I trust. Mm. And I think sometimes it's all, it's, sometimes it's just about expressing. The fear just like literally like saying it out loud like I feel fear or I feel the fear of judgment and Someone being like, yeah, that's that's real, [00:38:00] right?

That's normal. Like you're you have a total Right to feel that way Um, and it sometimes it just takes that acknowledgement so now We're cooking with gas

Neysa: You So do you want to tell this part what you just told me?

Like, I'm afraid of being judged. I, if we just stay small, they won't get us. They're coming to get, they're gonna say, Look at her, I don't want, You don't want that, nobody wants that. What do you have to say to that part?

Beatriz: I guess it would be,

Neysa: and

Beatriz: so

Neysa: We talked about feeling heard. We talked about all you really need is support and for somebody to be like, That's real.

You are not crazy for feeling that way.

Beatriz: Yeah.

Neysa: And we know that that's what this part wants from you. Are you capable of giving that to this part?

Beatriz: I guess it would be

knowing that, I guess, like knowing that that's an action I can take, I think, is how I can,

I guess, appease, I don't know if that's the right word, but appease the little part of me that's like

putting on the warning lights around judgment.

Neysa: Because really it's, if you think about it right, it's like, think about it like it's, how old do you think this part is? The, which part? The warning? The fear of judgment. How old? Yeah, how old do you think they are?

Neysa: ten year old BFFs.

And you're sitting with them and they're freaking out and you sit with them and you say, I know it is crazy. It is scary. You're right. You're a hundred percent right. And you don't need them to get over it. You don't need them to stop having a meltdown in the middle of the restaurant. You're just with them and you're like, I'm here with you and I'm going to be here with you.

I'm going to be there for you, no matter what. How do you think they would receive that?

Neysa: prepared to give that to her?

And there's no wrong answer.

Beatriz: I mean, it's just sort of like, okay.

Yeah, definitely. Definitely. You know? We're definitely,

for sure, ready to let her know, like, I get it. I get it. And,

and we're growing. That's what this is for. It's for the growth. It's for finding new parts of ourselves, right?

Neysa: That's what's really powerful about this work, right? It's like, it's so easy to say, it's so easy to do that to ourselves. It's so easy to question ourselves a million times.

Somebody who is close to you, somebody you have a relationship with who owes you that time and attention and they're not giving it to you. Would you not be freaking out? Yeah. Right? So when you really allow that conversation to happen, and that's just one of the many tools in the toolkit, like when you allow that conversation to happen, then you can revisit the original [00:44:00] question, which is like, okay, I have no, there is no benefit.

I see no benefit. I feel no benefit. to continue to question myself at every move. And then it becomes very easy and natural not to because you've heard, you've listened, you've created the space, you've helped, you have that trust within yourself, and now you're free to take the action you need to take.

Yeah, that intentional reflection and you really. Provided me with that intentional reflection and questions that allowed me to really dig deep, not and , but not just dig deep, but , really think about it. Think about what is happening there and naming. I think naming is a huge, huge part of healing and being able to, to then go back to, like you said, those back to the original question, the original action that you wanted to take.

Because when you cannot name what's stopping you, how are you going to break through it? It's

And I picked up that habit along the way, but that's not even me. And sometimes we can just be like, Oh, you know, it's kind of like when you find out that your friend left their charger at your house, you're like, this isn't you and my charger. Come get your charger. Right. And then sometimes it's, there is somebody knocking at the door.

And you're not answering the door. And it's like, you got to answer that door

Beatriz: and hear what

Neysa: they have to say and reassure them and not rush that conversation and say, okay, let's go get up, like, get your skates on. We're going, not that, but being like, we can, we can listen. If you don't want to go, we want to go.

Beatriz: It's

Neysa: so

why can I put on this workshop that I've been planning for six months?

Neysa: Right.

Neysa: It looks different for everybody, right? Like, I've gone through parts work like that. I've gone through visualization exercises. Sometimes it's just straight up coaching and it's just like question after question after question and you're just like having these ahas and I use my intuition to really get an understanding of what's needed in this space.

And what's so powerful about this is like when you're so clear and open and you're like, okay I'm ready now ready to show up the way I need to show up A lot of times those opportunities come right to you A lot of times like the next conversation will be like hey, I have this workshop and I need another facilitator And you're like well, bitch.

It's doing that inner work and doing that healing. And clearing it once and for all, that's what's so powerful about it. And that's why I'm so passionate about it because I'm just like, if you've ever done these programs, if you've ever made these big moves and. Somewhere along the line, you're forgetting to take a step in, and you're forgetting to like, really, really hear yourself.

What are the consequences of that? It gets bigger and bigger the higher you go in business.

Right? That support. , That was very illuminating. That's why I love your approach and your view, Neysa. Thank you. To bringing in money, to bringing in abundance, right? Because it's, it's, it's one thing to know about it and to learn about it, right? And it's another to really meet yourself where you're at.

And so, I, I just want to thank you for your time. I am so happy that, you know, I feel privileged to have had this time with you. And I hope people listening like really felt like, you know, they, and saw like what, what healing can do and what that intentional time, what that can really do for you and your business, for your financial health, for your wealth, for your abundance and, um, everything that you're trying to, to bring in for yourself.

Neysa: Absolutely. So on Instagram, I'm at Neysa Creates. It's N E Y S A Creates. I'm also on LinkedIn. And you can reach out to me on either platform.

Um, you can send me a direct message. You can comment on a post. I diligently, uh, stay in contact with people in my community and we can explore what working together looks like. Um, one thing that I'm announcing for the very, very, very first time,

Beatriz: and

And then on day two, create magnetic content. So if that's something that you really feel stuck in, you want to show up on a new level, you want to raise your prices, you want to call in these massive opportunities and you just are, how do I tackle this? Who am I to do this? And all of that stuff is coming up.

And if you're curious about that, just send me a message.

Beatriz: Awesome. Well, thank you so much, Neysa. You heard it here, exclusive content from Neysa herself. So remember, go follow Neysa at @neysacreates on LinkedIn. And thank you so much, Neysa. This was so wonderful for sharing your skills for. making space for creating space for myself, um, and for talking about how healing can really bring about so much change in the things that you want to do for yourself, whether in business or your financial goals.

I'm so glad that we had this conversation.

Neysa: Yay. Thank you so much for having me. This has been an absolute joy and privilege.

com and book a complimentary call with me. Whether you're feeling uncertain, need guidance, or are seeking support on your entrepreneurial journey, remember you don't have to do this alone. Help is always available. You just need to reach out and take action. And if you don't know my name, My name is Beatriz Rivera, an entrepreneur and business coach, founder of Be A Boss Coaching, my one on one program crafted for women of color, BIPOC, and queer entrepreneurs.

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