(Transcribed by TurboScribe.ai. Go Unlimited to remove this message.) I tell everybody, you know, everybody's trying to steal our
Speaker:business, we can't give them reasons to go, we've got
Speaker:to give them reasons to stay.
Speaker:So that's our challenge, is giving them reasons to stay
Speaker:at the hotel, that everybody else is trying to pick
Speaker:them off, but when they come into the town they're
Speaker:not thinking about, oh I want to try this, oh
Speaker:I want to try this, I want to stay at
Speaker:the Intercontinental because they take care of me.
Speaker:That's my home, that's where I go, and that's where
Speaker:I feel taken care of.
Speaker:Thanks for joining, this is The Room Key, I really
Speaker:appreciate it, we have Jeff Keeley here joining us, the
Speaker:General Manager of the Intercontinental here in Kansas City.
Speaker:Yes sir.
Speaker:Thanks for coming.
Speaker:Thank you for having me.
Speaker:I'm excited to hear your story.
Speaker:I appreciate it, thank you for allowing me to share.
Speaker:Absolutely.
Speaker:So first off, I like origin stories, where did you
Speaker:grow up?
Speaker:I grew up in Northeast Ohio, so Canton, Ohio, home
Speaker:of the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
Speaker:I was born in Dallas, Texas actually, and I only
Speaker:lived there for about 6-8 months, but I'm a
Speaker:huge Cowboys fan still.
Speaker:We lived in Hickory, North Carolina for maybe a year,
Speaker:and then kind of grew up in Canton, Ohio.
Speaker:Awesome.
Speaker:Fantastic.
Speaker:Tell me, who was Jeff as a kid?
Speaker:Man, I was into sports, I was always, we were
Speaker:always playing outside, playing all the sports, I played baseball,
Speaker:basketball, soccer, football growing up, kind of settled on soccer
Speaker:and played soccer all through high school and into college.
Speaker:Where'd you go to college?
Speaker:I went to James Madison University in Harrisonburg, Virginia.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:What were some of your early jobs, early jobs, first
Speaker:jobs?
Speaker:My first job was the fry guy at McDonald's, I
Speaker:started at McDonald's and was working the fries, and I
Speaker:got promoted to the grill, and eventually up to the
Speaker:cashier, so yeah.
Speaker:Very nice.
Speaker:How did that experience then lead to, obviously years later,
Speaker:when was your first job in the hospitality world?
Speaker:I never graduated from James Madison, where I went, I
Speaker:went to school there, I never graduated.
Speaker:I went there to play soccer, kind of got burned
Speaker:out, and then needed to do something.
Speaker:My brother lived in New York City, so I moved
Speaker:in with him in New York City, and I got
Speaker:a job at the Stanhope Hotel on 81st and 5th
Speaker:Avenue.
Speaker:So it's not there any longer, it's currently, actually we
Speaker:were just in New York City last week and we
Speaker:went and visited it, and it's now some condos, but
Speaker:yeah, that was my first job, I cut my teeth
Speaker:at the Stanhope in New York City, so 142 room
Speaker:boutique hotel in the Upper East Side of New York.
Speaker:Very nice.
Speaker:Very nice, love it.
Speaker:I was actually just in New York last week as
Speaker:well.
Speaker:We probably crossed paths.
Speaker:Probably.
Speaker:I used to live in New York a while back,
Speaker:right after college, and I was just right on the
Speaker:other side of the park though.
Speaker:Same, where were you?
Speaker:I was right on, I was on 65th and between
Speaker:Broadway and Central Park West.
Speaker:I lived at 121st and Morningside Drive, so up in
Speaker:Columbia area up there, so it's an interesting area.
Speaker:Yes, it is.
Speaker:Awesome.
Speaker:Alright, so you had that job, where did you go
Speaker:after New York then?
Speaker:So I was at the Plaza, or excuse me, I
Speaker:was at the Stanhope for about a year and a
Speaker:half and then went to the Plaza Hotel for a
Speaker:year and a half, so I was at those two
Speaker:during my tenure in New York, and then I moved
Speaker:back home to Cleveland, Ohio, and I was at the
Speaker:Holiday Inn at the airport for about a year, I
Speaker:was a front office manager there, and then I got
Speaker:promoted within the company, it was Buffalo Lodging Associates up
Speaker:to Comfort Suites in Buffalo, New York.
Speaker:So that was my first GM position, I think I
Speaker:was 27 years old, a little 100 room hotel in
Speaker:Buffalo, New York.
Speaker:Yeah, very nice.
Speaker:Yeah, it was fun, it was a big learning challenge,
Speaker:I had a great boss, kind of showed me some
Speaker:of the ropes and kind of taught me how to
Speaker:be a general manager, and met my wife there, so
Speaker:it was nice, it turned out to be a really
Speaker:good experience.
Speaker:Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker:So did you know when you ditched college, moved to
Speaker:New York, that hospitality was going to be it?
Speaker:I had no idea, I didn't know what I wanted
Speaker:to do, I just opened up the New York Times
Speaker:and applied to some different jobs and had a really
Speaker:good interview at the Stanhope, it's worked out, I've been
Speaker:in it ever since, but yeah, when I left school
Speaker:I truly had no idea what I wanted to do.
Speaker:I was a history major in college, but again, I
Speaker:went to play soccer and I just had to choose
Speaker:a major, so I was interested in history, so that's
Speaker:how it panned out.
Speaker:What about that job or the industry that really drew
Speaker:you in?
Speaker:So I had a great manager, when I started at
Speaker:the Stanhope, his name was Matias Sander, he kind of
Speaker:took me under his wing, kind of showed me the
Speaker:ropes and I had a knack for it, so it's
Speaker:something that when you feel comfortable and you feel like
Speaker:you're achieving, you kind of want to continue to do
Speaker:it, so I got promoted up a couple of times
Speaker:as he got promoted up, so he kind of really
Speaker:got me interested and started in it, and then, like
Speaker:I said, I found that I had a knack for
Speaker:it and enjoyed it, I enjoyed talking to people, so
Speaker:I worked the front desk and that was pretty easy
Speaker:for me, to work and to talk to people and
Speaker:kind of make that small talk and make them feel
Speaker:comfortable, and from there you could kind of learn everything
Speaker:else, so it worked out really well.
Speaker:That's awesome.
Speaker:Obviously, have you seen the Plaza since they finished that?
Speaker:I went back there, just last week in New York,
Speaker:we walked through the Plaza, now it's split kind of
Speaker:between hotel and condos now as well, so it wasn't
Speaker:what I remembered, you know, there used to be the
Speaker:Grand Lobby and all that, and we still walk, it's
Speaker:all Palm Court and all that, but the front desk
Speaker:is different, so they're two totally different hotels than what
Speaker:they were when I worked there.
Speaker:Right, yeah, they're definitely very different.
Speaker:Was the Stanhope a luxury property at all?
Speaker:Oh, it was a very luxury property, we had a
Speaker:lot of celebrities stay there, it was very cool, you
Speaker:know, being a young impressionable young kid to see all
Speaker:these celebrities come in, so it was a great hotel
Speaker:to start at and kind of, it was fun to
Speaker:see some of the people that stayed with us.
Speaker:Yeah, yeah, so obviously your first two, very luxury, went
Speaker:to the Holiday Inn, and then did you know at
Speaker:that point that you were a luxury guy?
Speaker:Obviously, we're sitting here in the Intercontinental.
Speaker:It took me a while to get back here, but
Speaker:yeah, I mean, I didn't want to be, I knew
Speaker:I had to learn and grow, so I was willing
Speaker:to pay my dues and figure it out and learn,
Speaker:you know, make mistakes and grow from it, and so
Speaker:I kind of kept moving up from, you know, the
Speaker:comfort suites to a courtyard, to a Hilton Garden Inn,
Speaker:to an Embassy Suites, and then to a Hyatt, and
Speaker:then a Sheraton, and now I'm at the Intercontinental here,
Speaker:so yeah, I just kind of grew and learned as
Speaker:I grew and took those steps and figured it out
Speaker:and listened and learned and made it here.
Speaker:That's important.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:Listening.
Speaker:Yes, it is very important.
Speaker:What, you've been all over the place.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:Where were some of the areas geographically that you've been
Speaker:to?
Speaker:So, like I said, from New York to Buffalo, and
Speaker:then Buffalo we went to Abilene, Texas, which was a
Speaker:culture shock, and then we went to Tulsa, Oklahoma.
Speaker:We lived most of our married life in Tulsa, Oklahoma.
Speaker:We were there about 17 years, I think it was
Speaker:three different hotels in Tulsa.
Speaker:We went from Tulsa to St. Louis, we were there
Speaker:for about four and a half years, down to Austin,
Speaker:Texas for about two years, and we've been here almost
Speaker:five years here in Kansas City, so yeah.
Speaker:Man, that's, went on sticking around in the Midwest.
Speaker:I do, yeah, so I like it here, I love
Speaker:this hotel, it's a great hotel, it's an iconic hotel
Speaker:here in Kansas City.
Speaker:It's great to talk to the guests and hear their
Speaker:stories, and you know, we're about 53 years old, and
Speaker:some guests have been coming here for 50 of the
Speaker:53 years.
Speaker:They came when they were kids, they brought their kids,
Speaker:now they're bringing their grandkids, and to hear their stories,
Speaker:it's a great hotel, and it means a lot to
Speaker:the people here in Kansas City.
Speaker:Yeah, that's important.
Speaker:That's gotta be, it's gotta have a little bit of
Speaker:a reward, personally, to see a lot of those stories.
Speaker:100 percent, it's great.
Speaker:And then we have a lot of, we have some
Speaker:associates that have been here for 40 years or longer,
Speaker:so it's to hear those stories as well, so.
Speaker:You know, we have a bellman named John who, you
Speaker:know, he knows some of these long-term guests, and
Speaker:they come in, and it's like, you know, old friends,
Speaker:and it's great to see that he has that connection
Speaker:with them, but that we have those people that are
Speaker:still coming after all of this time.
Speaker:Very nice.
Speaker:Why, for you, why luxury?
Speaker:It's just, I want to be the best of the
Speaker:best.
Speaker:I'm a, you know, we talked about, I was into
Speaker:sports, so I'm very competitive, and I want to be
Speaker:at the best of the best, so, you know, this
Speaker:luxury is the best, and I wanna, I haven't mastered
Speaker:it yet.
Speaker:I still have some learning to do.
Speaker:We still have some things to do here at the
Speaker:hotel, so it's a challenge for me to do that,
Speaker:but again, being competitive, I wanna be at the best,
Speaker:and the luxury is the best you can do.
Speaker:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker:And, obviously, the Intercon Metal, as far as the Midwest
Speaker:and Kansas City market, I would say it's probably the
Speaker:highest property that we have here.
Speaker:We're the longest four-star hotel in Missouri, so we've
Speaker:been a four-star hotel here for 35 years.
Speaker:So it's the longest in Missouri, so yeah, so it's,
Speaker:I don't wanna be the GM that loses that, so
Speaker:we, again, competitive, so we wanna keep it going every
Speaker:year, and we've managed to do that all the five
Speaker:years I've been here, so that's my goal, is to
Speaker:get it to four stars and beyond if we can,
Speaker:so yeah.
Speaker:Every year we talk about it, you know, we set
Speaker:our goals at the beginning of the year, and one
Speaker:of those goals is to maintain that four-star status,
Speaker:so we've achieved it every year so far.
Speaker:Yeah, awesome.
Speaker:What is a day in the life of J.F.
Speaker:Keeling?
Speaker:Man, it is never the same day twice, which, again,
Speaker:makes this industry fun, because you're never bored, you never
Speaker:get into these ruts of doing the same thing.
Speaker:You could come in and you want your day to
Speaker:go this way, it takes a left turn and then
Speaker:a right turn and all that, but we have a
Speaker:stand-up meeting every day at 8.30. All the
Speaker:department heads come in and we talk about, you know,
Speaker:what occurred, we read the manager on duty reports from
Speaker:the previous day and we go through all the guest
Speaker:comments and guest scores and then we talk about what's
Speaker:going to happen for the rest of the day and
Speaker:sometimes that happens, sometimes that doesn't, but we talk about
Speaker:groups coming in and events going on and any VIPs
Speaker:coming in and making sure that they're taken care of
Speaker:and everybody's on the same page and then the day
Speaker:starts and it could be anything from, you know, we
Speaker:have an associate event or we're doing an orientation or
Speaker:we're doing a site inspection that I go out and
Speaker:talk to the people who come with a site inspection,
Speaker:it could be we're working on a forecast, we're working
Speaker:on a budget, we're doing, you know, the P&L
Speaker:review, so it could be anything, so it's, like I
Speaker:said, it's never the same day twice.
Speaker:Usually get out of here, you know, 5.30, 6
Speaker:o'clock and it's a full day, so we've got
Speaker:a great staff, great set of managers that allows me
Speaker:to kind of keep semi-normal hours so it makes
Speaker:it easier when your staff is there to support you
Speaker:and you can trust them and make sure that, you
Speaker:know, they're taken at home and making sure the guests
Speaker:are taken care of.
Speaker:Absolutely.
Speaker:On that note, what does your process look like to
Speaker:attract, hire, and train good, quality, luxury employees?
Speaker:You know, word of mouth is a bestseller, so we
Speaker:want to take care of our current associates, make sure
Speaker:that everything that they have, you know, they have all
Speaker:the tools they need to do their job, that we
Speaker:make it a challenging and exciting place to work, so
Speaker:we want to keep them and we'd love to have
Speaker:no turnover, but that's not realistic, but we try to
Speaker:make it a challenging and rewarding place.
Speaker:We interview and we make sure that, you know, we're
Speaker:hiring the best people that we think are going to
Speaker:fit into those positions and then we train them to
Speaker:do those positions, so you know, it's a good interview
Speaker:process, it's taking care of them and then training them
Speaker:and giving them the tools to do their job.
Speaker:So we try to do that every day and challenge
Speaker:our associates to push each other, but also take care
Speaker:of our guests.
Speaker:You know, they don't have to come to me, they
Speaker:can take care of the guests right there, so we
Speaker:try to empower them to take care of the guests
Speaker:and to make those decisions so that our guests don't
Speaker:have to wait if there's an issue that they can
Speaker:get it taken care of right away.
Speaker:Right, right.
Speaker:Empowering them to own their position.
Speaker:100%.
Speaker:I love it.
Speaker:What does the potential pressure look like as far as
Speaker:being a luxury property and having the 35-year four
Speaker:-star on you as the buck stops with you on
Speaker:everything?
Speaker:Again, I have staff that makes me look good.
Speaker:I truly understand that, that it's not me.
Speaker:I talk to maybe a dozen, 20 guests a day,
Speaker:whereas we have front desk associates and managers that talk
Speaker:to 50 to 100 or more.
Speaker:I don't, I clean, if I'm cleaning rooms we're in
Speaker:trouble.
Speaker:But we have people that clean 16, 18 rooms a
Speaker:day, so I truly understand where my bread is buttered.
Speaker:So I make sure that our staff gets recognized, that
Speaker:we give them, we challenge them on a daily basis
Speaker:that our managers are recognized and they're given the power
Speaker:to do their job.
Speaker:So we have a great staff.
Speaker:We pay, I think we're in the higher third of
Speaker:the city.
Speaker:We challenge them, we train them, we give them the
Speaker:tools to do their job because it is a challenge.
Speaker:We're kind of up here and everybody's trying to get
Speaker:here and they're trying to steal our business and I
Speaker:tell everybody, everybody's trying to steal our business.
Speaker:We can't give them reasons to go, we've got to
Speaker:give them reasons to stay.
Speaker:So that's our challenge, is giving them reasons to stay
Speaker:at the hotel.
Speaker:Everybody else is trying to pick them off, but when
Speaker:they come into the town they're not thinking about, oh,
Speaker:I want to try this, oh, I want to try
Speaker:this.
Speaker:I want to stay at the Intercontinental because they take
Speaker:care of me.
Speaker:That's my home, that's where I go and that's where
Speaker:I feel taken care of.
Speaker:So we push our staff every day to find new
Speaker:and unique ways to make our guests happy and we
Speaker:make sure that we're taking care of them.
Speaker:And our internal guests too, all of our staff, we
Speaker:want to make sure that they feel taken care of
Speaker:because they're the ones that, you know, happy associates equal
Speaker:happy guests.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Absolutely.
Speaker:How does your relationship with ownership shape your day to
Speaker:day?
Speaker:You know, I think it's, I have a good relationship
Speaker:with our owners.
Speaker:I talk to my boss probably once a week.
Speaker:I think if you're not talking to them a lot,
Speaker:that means that you're doing your job.
Speaker:But I think as long as we're, you know, hitting
Speaker:our budgets, we're exceeding our GOP and our scores are
Speaker:there, that we're doing our job.
Speaker:And if my owner's having to call me every day
Speaker:to ask questions about why did this happen or what's
Speaker:going on here, then we're not doing our job.
Speaker:So I think it's a good sign when you don't
Speaker:have to get those phone calls on a daily basis.
Speaker:You know, it's just a touch base once a week
Speaker:and everything going well, yes.
Speaker:You need help from me.
Speaker:What do you need from me?
Speaker:What do you, you know, what's going on?
Speaker:So I think that's the way it should be if
Speaker:they have to keep their thumb on you all the
Speaker:time and ask you all these questions and you're not
Speaker:doing your job.
Speaker:And then when they ask questions, you've got to have
Speaker:those answers right away because if you have to, you
Speaker:know, you should know what's going on in your hotel.
Speaker:You should know what's going on with your associates, your
Speaker:guests, your scores, your revenue, and you've got to be
Speaker:able to answer those questions right away.
Speaker:You shouldn't have to say, oh, let me check on
Speaker:that and I'll get back to you.
Speaker:You should know, think like an owner.
Speaker:What are the questions they're going to ask me?
Speaker:Or you know, if our forecast is down or if
Speaker:we're not hitting our budget, our GOP is down, what
Speaker:are they going to ask?
Speaker:And I need to have those questions ahead of time
Speaker:so that I can give them the answers that they're
Speaker:looking for.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:Yep.
Speaker:Absolutely.
Speaker:And there seems like there's a very good similarity.
Speaker:I would imagine the way that you want to have
Speaker:the relationship with ownership is how you would like the
Speaker:relationship with the heads of the departments.
Speaker:100%.
Speaker:I, again, we do these stand-ups every day and
Speaker:I don't want to regurgitate information to them.
Speaker:I want them to give it up to me.
Speaker:So we have someone different lead it every day.
Speaker:So that makes them look into, you know, what are
Speaker:our guest scores?
Speaker:What was the MOD report?
Speaker:What can we do here?
Speaker:So someone different leads it every day so that they
Speaker:understand where the numbers are coming from, where these comments
Speaker:are coming from, and they can share with everybody else.
Speaker:So we try to make it not just me giving
Speaker:them information, but them giving it to each other and
Speaker:understanding it and where it comes from and all of
Speaker:that.
Speaker:So we have someone else lead it every day.
Speaker:Very nice.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:You mentioned the sports, but is there anything that you
Speaker:can tie that your previous history, you're like, there's a
Speaker:reason that I went through this or I had this
Speaker:job or my parents did this?
Speaker:Again, I think it's a lot of the competitiveness, a
Speaker:lot of being on a team and understanding what a
Speaker:team is and working together to get to that goal.
Speaker:So I think sports is an everyday for me.
Speaker:I mean, I enjoy it, but it's also, you know,
Speaker:I want it to be the best.
Speaker:I want my hotel to be the best, but I
Speaker:understand I can't do it alone.
Speaker:You know, just as in soccer, there's 11 guys on
Speaker:the field and if all 11 are working together, it's
Speaker:great.
Speaker:But if one falters, then we're struggling.
Speaker:So it's the same thing in the hotel.
Speaker:If the front desk isn't doing their job or housekeeping
Speaker:is not doing their job or the culinary team isn't
Speaker:doing their job, you know, we succeed as a team
Speaker:and we fail as a team.
Speaker:How does the Kansas City market compare?
Speaker:Because you've been in a lot of different markets, spent
Speaker:a lot of time.
Speaker:How is our market itself different?
Speaker:I mean, it's competitive.
Speaker:It's a great market.
Speaker:It's getting better.
Speaker:You know, Austin obviously is a different animal.
Speaker:It was crazy and it's blowing up.
Speaker:So that was a different, but while I was there,
Speaker:I was there during COVID.
Speaker:So, you know, when I first got there in 2019,
Speaker:it was crazy.
Speaker:But then during COVID, it was like everywhere else.
Speaker:It was dead.
Speaker:But, you know, Kansas City is similar to Tulsa and
Speaker:St. Louis.
Speaker:It's a very competitive market.
Speaker:We have a lot of great hotels here.
Speaker:We have a great convention center.
Speaker:We have a lot of things to offer visitors that
Speaker:come to town, some great museums, some tourist attractions.
Speaker:There's a lot to do in Kansas City.
Speaker:So it's a very vibrant market.
Speaker:I think it's doing well.
Speaker:It's just going to get better.
Speaker:I mean, I'm excited about the World Cup next year.
Speaker:Obviously, the Chiefs have done an amazing job of shining
Speaker:the light on Kansas City.
Speaker:And it's been great.
Speaker:It's helped us out a lot.
Speaker:Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker:Have you converted to a Chiefs fan yet?
Speaker:Unfortunately, no.
Speaker:I take a lot of crap.
Speaker:We play the Chiefs this year on Thanksgiving.
Speaker:It's in Dallas.
Speaker:So we'll see how that works out on the day
Speaker:after Thanksgiving.
Speaker:So I might be, yeah, we'll see how it works
Speaker:out.
Speaker:All right.
Speaker:How do you handle the CapEx, PIP conversations with ownership,
Speaker:with your department heads?
Speaker:Yeah, I mean, I think it's our job to talk
Speaker:to the owners and let them know they're not here.
Speaker:You know, they're in Providence, Rhode Island, and they don't
Speaker:know the day-to-day operations.
Speaker:So it's our job is to be realistic and let
Speaker:them know the good, the bad, and the ugly, and
Speaker:then share with them how we're going to improve upon
Speaker:it.
Speaker:I don't just want to tell them.
Speaker:We've got to tell them how we're going to get
Speaker:there.
Speaker:So I think it's, again, thinking like an owner, and
Speaker:it's not just, this is what's wrong, but here's the
Speaker:four solutions we can do.
Speaker:This one is more long-term.
Speaker:This one's short-term.
Speaker:This one's more expensive.
Speaker:This is less expensive.
Speaker:And go through all those options with them.
Speaker:So when we do our CapEx, we kind of think
Speaker:through that whole process and talk about what is the
Speaker:best for us in the short-term, but then, again,
Speaker:what's better in the long-term.
Speaker:So we talk through all that, and then we let
Speaker:them make the final decision, but we want to give
Speaker:them all the options so that they can make an
Speaker:informed decision.
Speaker:And, again, I think that's our job as a hotelier
Speaker:is to, you know, you're the guy that's got the
Speaker:boots on the ground, so you understand how it's going
Speaker:to affect you, how it's going to affect your guests,
Speaker:how it's going to affect your team, and maybe prioritize
Speaker:it as, this is the 1A that we've got to
Speaker:do, and this is maybe 1B, and this may be
Speaker:2, 3, 4, 5.
Speaker:But we have to do this.
Speaker:These things would be nice, but these are the things
Speaker:that we have to do.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:And I bet they're very reliant on your opinion.
Speaker:100%.
Speaker:I mean, and, again, I rely on, you know, my
Speaker:chief engineer to get bids or my chef to get
Speaker:bids.
Speaker:So, I mean, again, we talk through the whole process,
Speaker:and it's a team deal because, again, I'm not the
Speaker:expert in the kitchen equipment.
Speaker:I'm not the expert in the HVAC equipment, but they
Speaker:are.
Speaker:So I try to get their feedback as well and
Speaker:understand the best of my ability of what it's going
Speaker:to take and what we need, and then present that
Speaker:on to the owners.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:How do you balance brand standards?
Speaker:Obviously, Intercontinental, they have their standards of what they want,
Speaker:what they want to see, versus what the Kansas City
Speaker:market needs, what the ownership wants.
Speaker:It's a fine line.
Speaker:I mean, we do have QA inspections.
Speaker:You know, obviously, we get surveys from our guests who,
Speaker:you know, if the brand sees that we're not adhering
Speaker:to these standards, then...
Speaker:But it's something we have to do, and we understand
Speaker:that.
Speaker:Our ownership understands that, that there are certain things that
Speaker:we have to do, and we do that.
Speaker:And most of the brand standards are there to take
Speaker:care of our guests, to take care of our associates.
Speaker:So, yeah, we try to balance that the best we
Speaker:can.
Speaker:You know, it's not...
Speaker:Some of them are negotiable, but some of them are
Speaker:non-negotiable.
Speaker:So there's some things that we have to do, and
Speaker:they make sense to do, but there's other things we
Speaker:can talk to the brand and maybe get some waivers
Speaker:and all that because it doesn't fit for us.
Speaker:But the majority of this stuff, it's good for us,
Speaker:it's good for the hotel, it's good for the Intercontinental
Speaker:brand.
Speaker:But then there's some things, like you said, that maybe
Speaker:aren't specific to our hotels that we can get waivers.
Speaker:And usually, they're pretty lenient on granting those waivers.
Speaker:So it's a nice balance.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:And just, again, having that conversation, everybody's on the same
Speaker:page of what is the best.
Speaker:Because if it's the best for this hotel, it's probably
Speaker:the best for the brand itself.
Speaker:And again, if you give them the information, again, we're
Speaker:here, we understand our market, and if we give them
Speaker:the information, if you just say, I need a waiver
Speaker:because I don't want to do it, then obviously, they're
Speaker:not going to grant it.
Speaker:But if you go into the details and let them
Speaker:know why and how it affects you, and maybe it's
Speaker:not cost effective, or maybe it's not utilized, then more
Speaker:apt to not to grant it to us.
Speaker:So, yeah.
Speaker:What are some lessons and advice as you've grown up
Speaker:in this industry?
Speaker:Listen.
Speaker:I mean, we talked about it before, is just listening.
Speaker:A lot of people, it's frustrating sometimes when you have
Speaker:somebody come in and you're trying to talk to them
Speaker:and train them and let them know, and they seem
Speaker:to know everything, and they don't want to listen, and
Speaker:they just want to go out and do it their
Speaker:own way.
Speaker:And again, sometimes you've got to let them do that
Speaker:and kind of fail, and then hopefully they come back
Speaker:and will learn.
Speaker:This is an industry where people come to us because
Speaker:they're celebrating something, they're away from their family, and we've
Speaker:got to make sure that we're taking care of our
Speaker:guests.
Speaker:That's the biggest thing.
Speaker:And also, our associates.
Speaker:They're with us for eight hours a day, or longer
Speaker:sometimes, and we've got to make sure we're taking care
Speaker:of them, because they're going to take care of our
Speaker:guests.
Speaker:So taking care of the associates and taking care of
Speaker:the guests, those are the two things.
Speaker:That's what our industry is built on.
Speaker:So making sure that we're doing that on a daily
Speaker:basis, and all of our decisions should be based upon
Speaker:the financial commitment made to the owner, guest satisfaction, and
Speaker:associate satisfaction.
Speaker:Those are the three big things you've got to think
Speaker:about on a daily basis.
Speaker:And every decision is just going to help one of
Speaker:those three.
Speaker:But then again, you don't understand that enough if you're
Speaker:not listening and learning and growing.
Speaker:So I think the biggest thing is listening and understanding
Speaker:and being able to take those life lessons and apply
Speaker:them on a daily basis.
Speaker:Yeah, that's very wise.
Speaker:And then also, you put yourself in a good situation.
Speaker:Not every situation is in the right situation.
Speaker:So whenever you're interviewing for a job, ask questions and
Speaker:find out if it's a fit for you.
Speaker:Because just because it's more money or because it's a
Speaker:bigger hotel or it's a nicer hotel doesn't mean it's
Speaker:the right hotel for you.
Speaker:So you've got to make sure you're putting yourself in
Speaker:the right position for success, because some people move up,
Speaker:and maybe they're not ready to move up, or it's
Speaker:not the right situation.
Speaker:And you've got to look out for yourself as well
Speaker:and put yourself in the right situation for success.
Speaker:Yep.
Speaker:All right.
Speaker:Before we check out, we have a section that we
Speaker:call the wake-up call to some rapid-fire questions
Speaker:to get some interesting answers.
Speaker:What is the most overlooked job in a hotel?
Speaker:Housekeeping, by far.
Speaker:Those biggest respect ever for housekeepers.
Speaker:Sometimes the rooms, after you have a volleyball team in
Speaker:and seven young ladies have slept in there, and they've
Speaker:used every towel, everything in the room, it's unbelievable.
Speaker:And they have to do that 16 more times.
Speaker:It's by far the hardest, most underappreciated position in the
Speaker:industry.
Speaker:So it's unbelievable.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Housekeeping, by far.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:We have a large family, and so we'd go through
Speaker:towels like crazy, and love when the housekeeping is on
Speaker:top of it.
Speaker:100%.
Speaker:Housekeeping brings up towels when we need it, cleans it
Speaker:all.
Speaker:It's a job.
Speaker:It is a job.
Speaker:And they're amazing people, and yeah, I'm glad we have
Speaker:a good crew, because it's tough to do without them.
Speaker:What is your favorite guest amenity that you geek over?
Speaker:My favorite guest amenity that I geek over, I'm going
Speaker:to brag.
Speaker:So we just had beehives installed this year.
Speaker:So we have two beehives on our rooftop, over on
Speaker:our wing.
Speaker:And the beekeeper came out, and I went up on
Speaker:the roof with him, and actually some of our managers
Speaker:had gone up, and we just got, I think he
Speaker:said 40 pounds of honey, which came out to about
Speaker:three and a half gallons.
Speaker:So we have rooftop honey that we have made from
Speaker:our hotel.
Speaker:So that's the coolest thing that we've had.
Speaker:So we have amenities that we can include our own
Speaker:signature brand of honey.
Speaker:So that's pretty cool.
Speaker:I've never heard of that before.
Speaker:So I did it in Austin.
Speaker:And we didn't, again, it was during COVID, so it
Speaker:kind of fell flat.
Speaker:But these beehives, he started off with just two stacks,
Speaker:and now we're up to four stacks.
Speaker:And there are, I think he said, between 60 and
Speaker:80,000 bees in each hive.
Speaker:And it's kind of cool to learn about it, but
Speaker:then just to see the finished product, and you taste
Speaker:it, and the honey's amazing, and it's just going to
Speaker:be a really cool amenity to give out to our
Speaker:guests.
Speaker:It was from our local bees right here.
Speaker:So yeah, that's the coolest amenity.
Speaker:Interesting.
Speaker:Do you have a flowers garden up there as well?
Speaker:We don't have a garden.
Speaker:So we're eventually going to do like a chef's, like
Speaker:an herb garden.
Speaker:But I mean, so they fly within a mile radius.
Speaker:So we got loose park up the street.
Speaker:The plaza over here has lots of flowers.
Speaker:We have flowers planted in our pool area and along
Speaker:our drive.
Speaker:So there's, you know, and there's a residential area right
Speaker:behind us.
Speaker:So there's ample opportunity for them to go.
Speaker:And he was, even the beekeeper was amazed at how
Speaker:quickly they built up their honey reserve.
Speaker:So he was thinking it was going to be, you
Speaker:know, 20 pounds, and it was double that.
Speaker:So it was pretty amazing just watching him pull it
Speaker:out.
Speaker:And these whole things were just filled with honey.
Speaker:So it was pretty cool.
Speaker:So yeah, that's awesome.
Speaker:That's our best amenity.
Speaker:I never would have thought that was going to be
Speaker:your answer.
Speaker:What is one trait that every hotel employee should have?
Speaker:Empathy.
Speaker:You know, that, I think we need to empathize with
Speaker:our guests and kind of put ourselves in a situation
Speaker:that, you know, that maybe it's, you know, if a
Speaker:guest has a problem, that maybe it's not a problem
Speaker:to you, but you need to understand that it's a
Speaker:problem to them.
Speaker:So I think empathy is huge.
Speaker:Being able to put yourself in their shoes, understand how
Speaker:they're feeling and why it's an issue to them.
Speaker:Again, it might not be a big issue to them,
Speaker:or excuse me, to you, but it's a big issue
Speaker:to them and we got to treat it like it's
Speaker:a big issue to them.
Speaker:So I think empathy is the biggest thing that an
Speaker:associate needs to have.
Speaker:Spoken from a true leader.
Speaker:What is the most unexpected request that you've ever received
Speaker:from a guest?
Speaker:Unexpected request that I, man, let me think.
Speaker:Unusual, often.
Speaker:I don't think anything's unusual.
Speaker:Again, our job is to make their stay great.
Speaker:So, I mean, people ask for things, we've had some
Speaker:celebrities here and they've asked for some unique things, but
Speaker:nothing, you know, we had one celebrity that asked us
Speaker:to take all the beds out of the room and
Speaker:just put the mattresses on the floor and then she
Speaker:needed 17 pillows.
Speaker:So that was kind of strange, but, I mean, nothing
Speaker:has been, you know, crazy that, you know, we've never
Speaker:had, you know, somebody want to, you know, I don't
Speaker:know.
Speaker:But we've never had anything crazy and that's kind of
Speaker:unique.
Speaker:But we've had celebrities that have ordered, you know, exercise
Speaker:equipment to be put in their room and then when
Speaker:they leave, they leave it here.
Speaker:So then we have extra exercise equipment.
Speaker:So that's kind of been a couple of times that
Speaker:they've shipped stuff to the hotel, we put it in
Speaker:the room.