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Ep. 19 Surrendering to a couple really good questions [with Co Host Troy Vincent ]
Episode 197th February 2022 • The Borealis Experience • Aurora Eggert
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Surrendering to a couple really good questions. 

Today I’m on the hot seat. 

The one and only Troy Vincent fellow Coach and dear person in my life is asking me deep questions.

Surrendering is the only way through it :)

Why coaching ?

Who are the best ?

Who are the worst clients ?

What was your biggest break through when you are being coached ?

What are you working on right now ?



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All right, hello. Hello. Hello, hello, Aurora

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fans. This is the Borealis experience with me your guest

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host. I am Troy. Vincent. I know that's extremely disappointing.

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And to make it up to you completely. I have as my guest

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here this week. Her name is Aurora. Welcome to the program,

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Aurora.

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What a nice introduction. Thank you so much Troy. And yeah, I'm

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very excited to be spending some time with you today and to, to

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hopefully answer all your questions that you have. And to

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Yeah, have a good conversation flowing.

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Good, good. This idea came about last time when we spoke when you

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had me as a guest. And I'm not used to being a guest. I don't

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usually talk about myself a lot. I spent 23 years in radio. So I

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like being the host. And I like learning about other people. So

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thank you for this opportunity to be hosting your podcast. I

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appreciate you.

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Oh, yes, yes. And I know I will learn lots from a pro when it

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comes to interviews and how to Yeah, formulate questions, how

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to get the person to say everything that you want to know

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about them. And yeah, I love being in the hot seat.

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Okay, let's put you in the hot seat. You ready?

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Yeah. I'm so ready. Here's your

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first first tip. I have five big questions for you Aurora. Oh my

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god. I have to answer them. All right. Yes or no? Are the

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Bengals winning the Super Bowl on Sunday?

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It's gonna be a very tight game. I'm absolutely not interested in

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Super Bowl. Football at all. I know. A lot of followers now. My

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sport that I follow is soccer. So I'm very excited that Senegal

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made it into the into the Yeah. Soccer. How do you say the World

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Cup? What kind of cup is coming up here soon

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to Lhasa. So that's all I'm familiar with when it comes to

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soccer.

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All right. Well, you see there is no compatibility here when it

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comes to sports. That's

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the question was yes or no. And you have yet to say either one.

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I will say no.

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Okay. Yes or No? Should I invest in crypto?

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Ha. That's a good question as well, my friend. He really made

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me sweat here. I would say yes. Try it out. Don't go all in but

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try it out and see what happens. Yeah, and inform yourself from

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the from the investment sharks out there. I'm not I'm not there

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yet. I'm still a little dolphin in a shark tank and don't really

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know what I'm doing when it comes to investing. But I'm

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learning

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from Shark Tank. I like that. Yeah. Question number three. Yes

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or no? Can you make the wind stop?

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Absolutely, yes. If we keep spending time indoors. Before we

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can go into the basement. Its theme today. I mean, for people

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who don't know southern Alberta. Yeah, it yesterday nearly

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knocked me off my feet. We went for a hike and it was very

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intense. The good thing about is that you don't need a hairdryer.

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I get to dry my long hair in the wind. Within five minutes. It's

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dry. And that's super convenient.

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So nice. Yeah, Mother Nature. Yeah. Yes or no? Do you already

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regret me hosting the show? A little

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bit? Absolutely. I had a shower this morning. And I'm sweating.

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Like, as if I was hiking a steep mountain. And I don't know

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what's happening and how this is gonna go. But I stay connected.

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Big Question. Yes or no? Are you ready for an actual real

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conversation?

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I am. I always yes, good.

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Thank you for playing with me in that little quiz there. There's

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a little technique for you know, I would do back on my radio

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show. I found that some people would be a lot really, like

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really nervous hopping on the radio. And so I would just ask

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them some goofy questions just to loosen them up. Oh, I just

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settled.

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I love that so much. I love that so much. And I feel you should

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do that with your coaching clients as well.

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That's right. So one of my favorite things to do Aurora is

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to learn about others. And so thank you for this opportunity

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to learn more about you. You are a fellow coach, and I love

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meeting a whole bunch of different coaches and finding

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out what was the inspiration for becoming a coach and going down

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that path. So share that story with with me and your audience.

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That's such a beautiful question. And I feel so honored

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to to be a fellow coach of yours because I know we'll learn a lot

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from each other along the lines. I think like going back in time,

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I was always a very introverted, observant child. And I was

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always trying to make sense of people like why they behave a

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certain way. Why people are so different when it comes to

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opinions. And yeah, what what it is to be a human being why there

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is bullying, like I got bullied lots at school, and I could

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never make sense of it. Because I was never harming anyone. yet.

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I was deeply triggering something in people I was always

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the youngest, I was always more on the naive side. And some

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people just thought that's fun to, to torture and to hurt. And

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so I grew up thinking that I was really weird, and that I had to

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change and that I Yeah, was not in the right place at the right

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time ever. And it made Yeah, it was it was lots of struggles,

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yet I was a happy and smooth child. So to say I was never

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rebellious. I always sat down the pain. And I want to say in

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my 20s and my 30s It caught up with me. Depression, started

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kicking in anxiety. I always had a deep, deep sense of empathy

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and wanting to heal people. So I became a physiotherapist. And

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that helped me to to regain confidence and to find out okay,

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I actually have a place in this world, I can help people. Also,

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I want to mention that at a very young age. My parents, yes

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struggle like young some young parents do. And I learned early

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on that I have the power to make people feel better and happy.

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Sometimes also wanting to be the clown right to act and to, to do

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something that makes people laugh and lighten up a

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situation. So that and finding out that I have healing powers

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that I can help people as a physiotherapist helped me regain

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a sense of self. But after a couple of years of working in

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that field, I realized that I learned everything about the

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body I'm I'm a total, yeah, physiology and anatomy nerd and

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love to help heal the body. But there was some clients that were

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not getting better at the speed I wanted or expected them to.

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And I found out that it was their mind that was not in a

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good place. And I didn't have the tools on how to help them.

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So I started really burning myself out and being that little

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clown that I used to be as a kid. But it wouldn't make them

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feel better. It would make them laugh or make them feel good but

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they wouldn't heal on a deeper level. And then also dealing

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with my depression and anxiety I started becoming interested in

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psychology and self help self empowerment, and I knew I didn't

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want to go back to school and learn, like become a

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psychotherapist. But I found out that there's Yeah, you can

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become a coach if you hadn't become a counselor. And with the

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experiences that I had from the past, it would give me Yeah, I

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don't want to say an advantage but it would give me tools in

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order to being able to relate to people who are in pain. So I

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bought a bunch of books, I did a bunch of courses. And then yeah,

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started to learn so much about the mind and how we can change

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the neuroplasticity the way we view things for the longest

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time, and then learn to see them in a different way. And now

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working as a personal trainer and life coach, I can finally

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help the people with physical ailments to also heal in the

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mind and to do become more empowered than or more

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themselves and who they were before the accident or before

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the body got sick. And that's so incredibly rewarding. And I heal

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at the same time as well. Because more and more I know,

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okay, this is my place. This is how I can serve people. This is

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how I'm not going to burn myself out. And this is how I can have

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incredible conversations and connections with people. That

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was a very long answer.

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Beautiful one. Great, great, you just answered like for my next

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questions. Oh, it's perfect. Easier, you make my job, I'm

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happy. So thank you for that. So who is your favorite client

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ever? And who's your least favorite client ever? Hmm. Let

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me think about that.

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My, my most favorite client is a person who is genuinely

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interested in healing and moving forward and curious about his or

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her body. I feel all too often we just, yeah, drag our body

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along and odd and it gets sick. And now we have to take care of

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a body. Like someone who maybe a little bit at the start is

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neglecting the body and then through the coaching realizes,

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oh my god, like my body is my best friend. And if I don't take

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care of my body, then yeah, I'm not going to be here for long or

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be enjoying life for as long as possible. So people was a little

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bit of resistance, but then kind of I managed to, to melt them

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down and in a good way and to make them appreciate what they

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have. My least favorite client is is a person who cannot

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surrender to to the healing journey. A person who has to

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analyze everything who has to control everything and who has

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to be on top of everything at all times and brings the tension

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into the session the not wanting to let go of rationality and

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dropping into the heart a person who Yeah, it's not and then

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again, I mean a good coach can can melt these people down and

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make them surrender but some people are too stuck in their

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ways. And and don't ya want to open up and don't want to really

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heal, there's like a secondary gain that is way stronger than

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wanting to heal because they get attention from people or they

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don't have to go to that shitty job again. So me as a coach, I

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will have a very hard time to to try and conquer that secondary

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gain way of viewing things and it's yeah, that's those are the

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very challenging people to

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coach people who remain guarded. Yeah, and tune into the primal

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part of their brain and don't want to change their identity or

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behavior or belief or anything like that.

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Yeah, I think we're all guarded to some degree and a good coach

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can can Yeah, help people to relax and open up over time. Not

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in the first session. I get that. But yeah, people who who

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come to a coach coaching session because spouse sent them or the

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parents sent them. Like that's always? Yeah.

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Not always the toughest. Yeah. If you don't want to change for

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yourself, and you're not going to exam I found anyway. No, it's

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really, really tough. You need to be motivated by yourself.

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Yeah. Share a coaching breakthrough that you have

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experienced as a client, because I know that you have a coach,

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all coaches have coaches, because we know how valuable it

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is so deep into the, into the recesses of your brain, what is

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something that you can share as a breakthrough that you've

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experienced?

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Hmm, that's such a good question. I shared on Facebook

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the other day that when I was fighting depression, and deep

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self doubt, and heartbreak, I went, I like came up with the

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courage finally, to go and see a psychotherapist. And the message

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that I got from her. And now looking back, I understand how

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she meant it. But back then it was like, man, girl, you got to

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toughen up, like, Yeah, this is not how you can live your life.

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And you got to let go of that pain now and move on. And I went

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home and I just thought, Man, That Woman is not getting me

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like, I need different kinds of help. And it was two people that

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I visited and two people who really made me feel worse

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afterwards. And then a five years went without five years. I

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just pretended everything was good and overcompensated with

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exercising and stuff. And then I met this guy from from back in

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the day, we reconnected over Facebook, and he was doing his

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coaching training and offered coaching sessions. And with him,

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it was so incredible. Like he asked me questions that never,

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ever anybody asked me. And I talked about my pain and my, my

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Yeah, trauma that I went through, it's 21 being raped.

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And I still explained that very, like vividly as if the pain was

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still there. And he asked me, Aurora, like, where are you

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right now? And I said, I'm in Canada, I'm studying agriculture

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at the college. And yeah, I'm gonna go for a walk here. After

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the call. He's like, are you? Like, do you still feel that

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pain from Maxon? And I said, no, like, everything healed, and my

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body is pretty much normal. Like, do you still feel like the

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grip of the person and the violence? And I said, no, like,

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I still have the pictures in my mind. But no, I feel well. And

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he went further and further and made me realize, okay, this is

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something that happened. But I don't have to identify with

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this. Like for years, I was walking around like a victim

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being scared of man hating men rejecting men that were actually

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nice to me. And he made me realize, hey, you still live in

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that victim mentality. And I want you to pull yourself out of

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this. Like you're not that victim anymore. Yes, this

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happened. But if you keep at identifying with what happened,

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you're going to be a weak person for the rest of your life. Like

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you you will not be able to live up to your potential because you

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think you're not deserving you think you are a constant victim

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and men are bad. That's not gonna serve you on your journey.

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So let's please work on letting go of that identity. And that

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was like such a mind opener and heart opener and a huge

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breakthrough for me as six six years ago, I was now

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nice congratulations on making that transition. That is a tough

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one. What was it like when he stated like you're in a victim

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mindset you have a victim mentality How did you initially

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react to that were you open up to it to analyze it or it was a

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part of your brain kind of rejecting it right away like got

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defensive?

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Yeah. Yeah, of course. Cuz I think the reason why is that my

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ego my mind wants to protect me to not go through that pain

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again. So my thinking subconsciously was If I cling to

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that victim mentality, then this will never happen to me again,

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because this is how I protect myself. But at the same time

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what I was doing, I was closing myself up to beautiful

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experiences, and to, to feel myself and empowered again. So

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yeah, when he said, Hey, we're gonna learn to let go of this

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now. I was like, I get what you're saying. But a lot of, of

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me is still clinging to that. And that made me realize how

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much that thing, that identity had me under control. And after

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we hung up, I was like, okay, but I don't want that I get what

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he's saying. And I'm gonna work on it. And I'm gonna let go of

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it. So yeah, there was instant resistance. And then it made

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sense. And I allowed, I allowed him to, yeah, work on me and,

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and I was able to liberate myself.

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Nice, liberating yourself as good, so good. For those who may

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be watching and listening, and as they sit there and explore

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themselves, they may at some point discover they're in a

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victim mindset. What advice would you have for those people?

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I would say that it's, it's perfectly normal and perfectly

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natural, to be in the victim mentality and to feel like a

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victim. Because it is intense pain and trauma that you went

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through. But do you want this one thing, or those couple of

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things that happen to you, like, decide how happy and content you

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are in the future? Do you want that, to hold you back? And and

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not believe in yourself as much as you could? And can you see,

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like, it sounds so silly. But every situation as shady as it

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was, there was something that also happened at the same time.

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That is good, that you've learned a lesson that you've

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learned, or, you know, how to say a light bulb that that

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suddenly, you know, how do you say that in the comic book when

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you suddenly have an idea? So yeah, yeah, like, for instance,

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going back to, to my my story. Of course, when you hear being

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raped, nothing can be good about this. Absolutely nothing,

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everything is horrifying about it. But when you think about it,

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what's the good outcome there is that I realized that I have

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absolutely no boundaries. If somebody says Aurora, you need

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to do this and that for me, or Aurora, we're going to do this

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now. And even if my intuition says, No, I will still say yes.

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And this is what brought me into that situation. Because I don't

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want to hurt people. I don't want to reject people. And

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that's something I can work on. So that whole shift situation

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made me realize, Oh, my God, I have to learn and communicate

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better. I have to stand my ground, I have to have

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boundaries, I have to learn to listen to my intuition. And to

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focus just on that and to get better, like, every week, like

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write down in your journal. Hey, how did you use your intuition

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this this week? How did you kindly gracefully set boundaries

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this week? And so, so that's, I think, what I want to say about

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the victim mentality that, that you can learn something from it

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and focus on that and know that you're so much more than the

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pain that you went through.

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Wow, thank you for sharing that. That was incredible. The think

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well, our brain kind of turns on that self defense mechanism

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pretty quick when someone will say you're in a victim mindset

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because somewhat they they take it as an attack almost psycho,

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you're trying to say I'm weak or, and and I think the thing to

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keep in mind is just observing, you know, I've been in a victim

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mindset before, and I was grateful to come out of it. And

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for those who may discover there, just know that there's no

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shame in it, like you had mentioned, you know, it's it

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happens, it's expected, the brain just goes there. And it

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helps protect this, at least in the short term. And that's why

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it's doing it. That's why we're in that mindset. It's just

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simply recognizing that there's a better way to continue forward

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at some point. And thank you, no, thank you brain for even

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putting you in that victim mindset because it helped

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protect you for a short time, right and, and keep you going

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and go, thank you for the job you've done. Now, I'm safe to

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move on and do this. And you'll make that shift and you make

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that transition. And yeah, no, no need to feel shame or judge

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yourself in that moment, if you find yourself in a victim

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mindset. So your your next personal growth step, what is

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that going to be for you? What obstacles? Are you looking to

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overcome Aurora?

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That is a very, very good question that's going to bring

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out the vulnerable and fully transparent Aurora. I love it. I

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would say it's two things, I'm still I still get triggered so

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easily. I know when I'm tired when I didn't sleep well, it's

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it's more extreme than when I when I had a good night's sleep.

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But I have a couple of people in my life that I want to have in

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my life that still manage to make me I think in English, you

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say make me cave. So I kind of let them push me into a corner.

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And they don't really see it realize it until I explode and

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to communicate to them early on, hey, you're making me feel

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uncomfortable, hey, you can we talk about this, like it was,

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you know, like to communicate before I explode with these

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people who really know how to push my buttons. That would be

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one thing. And the other thing would be to overcome. Like,

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still the little bit of disappointment that I feel and

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let down that I feel from my family, that they're not fully

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supportive of what I'm doing. Like, it's not that I that they

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think it's stupid and unnecessary. But to like I

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imagined the other day, for instance, if I had a daughter,

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and she was trying to build a business, she was trying to

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serve people and stuff, my God, I would be excited and tried to

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do everything to make her succeed. And what I'm receiving

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from my family, I tried to transform into into boosting me

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so not to wanting to prove myself to them. But to know that

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hey, yeah, I'm alone in this. And I'm going to reach out to

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people who want to help me. And my family is there in the

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background. And, and not applauding, not cheering, but

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that's okay, too. They love me for other things. But I think

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it's some people feel that more than others. To me needing a

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little bit of approval needing a little bit of hay, you're doing

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a good job there. And if it doesn't come from the family,

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it's going to come from other people, you don't have to fixate

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on certain people, if they don't want to give you that kind of

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love or support. They're going to support you in other ways

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when you need it. Does that make sense? Or was it a little bit

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too much of?

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No, no? Yeah, it reminds me of a quote of, I think I'll call it a

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paraphrase because I'm not sure if we're gonna get it right. But

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it said, Jorge, you know, don't expect people to understand your

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dreams. They're for you. It's your dream. And it's okay if

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they don't understand it. And sometimes that's really tough to

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accept, because you're right, the people that you love, most

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are close to you're like, Oh, I'd love to have their support,

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because I would support them, whatever they do, you know, and,

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and so that can be really tough to understand, but just, you

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know, kind of hold on to that and remind yourself that it's

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your dream and, you know, it's your vision, they can't see it.

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And that's okay. You know, it's okay. have visions for you.

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Yeah. And you will find your community of support. And so

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that's important too. Yeah. Yeah. What is your what's your

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biggest fear

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My biggest fear is the death of a loved one. Yeah, that's, I

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mean, I lost my both of my grandmother passed and that is

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still hard to grasp. But two, they were getting weaker. They

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were sick, you know, you could prepare yourself a little bit.

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But people who went through that kind of grief and loss. Like, I

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have so much respect for people who lost someone out of nowhere,

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like suddenly that is my biggest fear. Physical pain when it

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comes to me, but but losing someone that I love. That would

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be Yeah. I know it's going to come at some point. I think

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everybody goes to that. So yeah, that's something I really, yeah.

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Resist. I don't want to experience but I know it's

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inevitable. Yeah, that that, yeah, then that comes needing to

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accept it. But I think I will have to learn to accept it.

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While going through, like, before, I don't even know who it

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would be, you know, like, I'm trying not to focus on it and

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detach myself from that fear. But yeah, sometimes it creeps

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up.

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What would it be like to have that release, not hold on to

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that fear, to have it revisit you from time to time?

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Hmm. That would be like a huge relief. At the same time, I want

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to be honest with you, I also use it to love harder, and to

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love more fiercely and to be more present. So it's also a

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good thing. Like, I from a young age, I thought about that. And

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it was always a big fear of mine. And I tried to just make

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something good of it. And to Yeah, be less on my phone when

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people are around me or wanting to talk to me or you know, make

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more goofy lovey dovey things then probably necessary. Yeah,

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to also use it as my drive. But yeah, if I could just because if

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you say to let go of that fear, then I said, Oh, yeah, but then

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I would appreciate people less maybe, and that's not what I

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want. That's what I'm using it for?

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Well, you make a good point of this is an example of taking an

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emotion like fear. And really, emotions are neither negative or

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positive. They are what we labeled them and all of them can

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be an instrument. And so with this fear creeps up for you, you

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step back and go, Oh, what's this? What's this fear of right?

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And you can find out the origin of it on, I value these people

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in my life. And then your response to that is to make sure

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that you're present, make sure that you express your love for

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them. And so you turn it into a positive. So I think that's a

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good lesson for all of us. You know, when you feel anger, it's

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not a negative fear just means okay, this is communicating to

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you something. So step back and go, I'm angry right now, what is

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this trying to tell me? What can I learn from this? And you'll

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you'll find out what that is, and it will help you moving

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forward.

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Yeah, yeah. Yeah, similar with anxiety. I feel a lot of people

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who get nervous and anxious. I had one person telling me yeah,

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just just see it as your ignition. You know, when you

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turn the key in your car, it has to roar a little bit, and

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there's that energy that comes up and just envision it as

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something positive and you care about it. And it's, it's good to

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have that little bit of anxiety right? Because lots of people

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don't want to feel that.

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Yes, welcome all your feelings. Don't come try to repress them.

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It's not possible anyways.

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Do you know that scientifically, an emotion lasts 90 seconds?

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That's it. 90 seconds. Holy. On so for when it lasts longer,

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it's because we're engaging it right. So, you know, our

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thoughts are fueling it. And then that creates more emotion

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and emotion creates more thoughts. And it just, the cycle

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continues. So when you're in a bad state like that, that's why

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it happens. But if you develop the tools to have emotional

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resiliency, you know, step back, breathe your way through it.

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Calm your mind, calm your body, take care of the physiology, you

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can let that wave of emotion, kind of subside and will sustain

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and then you can react properly. It's interesting was a long time

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ago,

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I will have to write that down on a piece of paper, because

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I'm, unfortunately, so good to cling on these emotions,

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especially when it comes to anger and sadness. And to sit in

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there for so long. And too, I'm poisoning myself by doing that.

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And I'm, it doesn't serve anybody or anything. And that

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was a write that down 90 seconds. Wow.

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Cool. And I can relate to what you're saying about, you know,

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anger and sadness. Those would be big ones for me. You know, I

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could stew in either of those for hours once upon a time. Now,

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if it only bothers me for five minutes, I'm like, victory. This

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is great. Wow. But yeah, thinking about like 90 seconds.

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Wow, I could I can even improve this even more. Yeah, keep

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working.

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Yeah. That was great advice.

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So I would like to wrap up this conversation, Aurora, by you

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telling us what's three things you love about your life right

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now?

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Those are so good. I would say number one, the people I need,

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just like you and the conversations I can have. With

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technology. I know a lot of people know, we're all addicted

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to technology. But yeah. It has such good sides to it. And I

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love that that's possible.

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So yeah, number one connecting with deep conversations through

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deep conversations with people like you living out here in the

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forest, in a house with no phone and no internet. And having to

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go like having to walk to my Wi Fi station.

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Like making a very intentional when I'm going to use my phone

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and not and trust me whenever I'm in the real world. I'm I'm

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so glued to my phone. And I have to remind myself, what am I

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doing here sort of live to live a little bit of bread, but not

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totally is also a blessing. And then to have the podcast and the

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coaching and to know that I can serve people and yeah, give

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people like tools to to make their life a little juicy. Or to

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be a little bit more content if it's just 10% you know, just

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just have a little bit more confidence in themselves. And

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the feedback that I received there is just so yeah, it's so

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beautiful and somewhat evading. Yeah, I would say those are the

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three things.

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That was wonderful. Thank you for sharing that and everything

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else here today. You've been an amazing guest

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Well, thank you so much for making the time and being my

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host and such a good yeah. Interviewer like I love the

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questions and we need we need your voice out there again, like

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I know you might not go back to radio maybe but I hope beyond

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coaching you will be there for people to to listen to you. And

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yeah, we stay connected.

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Absolutely. Okay, I like that idea. The good news is my time

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is done and your regular hosts will return next episode of the

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Borealis experience. On behalf of my guest Aurora. I'm Troy

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Have a great Day.

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Bye Bye. Well, what a great pleasure to Have had Troy asking

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me these wonderful questions and to learn from a professional

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radio host. You also got the chance to Yeah, learn a little

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bit more about my background, my motivation, my intentions. And

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yeah, I felt very vulnerable. sharing all this, but it felt

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good. I want to feel connected to you. I want to get to know my

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listeners better. And when I open up, then I feel Yeah, I'm

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doing my part. So thank you so much for listening to this

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interview. I deeply appreciate you. And thank you so much to

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Troy for making the time incredible person and human

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being to have in my life. take really good care of yourself and

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we will stay connected and to my listeners. We will connect again

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on Thursday. And if you have any questions if there's anything

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you want to request, when it comes to episode, topics, please

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never hold back. If you want to send me sign of appreciation and

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the link below in the show notes. There is the buy me a

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coffee link. And yeah, I'm always so excited and grateful

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to receive a donation from you guys and girls. This is the way

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I can keep this little business going. Thank you so much. And

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until next time

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