Ever wondered exactly what a toxin report can reveal about your body—and more importantly, what you should do with that information? In this eye-opening episode, host Joe Fier welcomes back Dr. Paul Savage of MD Lifespan to demystify Joe’s personal toxin report. Together, they break down what these numbers actually mean for your health, the different types of toxins you might encounter, and what actionable steps you can take if your report drops a few red flags. Dr. Savage explains the categories of toxins, why reference ranges are moving targets, and why true “normal” for toxins is zero. If you’ve ever been curious (or anxious!) about what’s lurking in your environment and food, this is a must-listen.

Topics Discussed

• Decoding Joe’s Toxin Report: Step-by-step breakdown of Joe’s actual results from a comprehensive urine toxin test.
• Types of Toxins: An overview of mycotoxins, environmental toxins, heavy metals, and PFAs (forever chemicals).
• How Toxin Tests Work: What urine toxin tests measure, how they’re administered, and why the reference ranges matter (and change).
• Understanding Risk: Why being in the “red” or “moderate” isn’t about a diagnosis, but about being in a higher percentile of exposure.
• Sources of Exposure: From grain silos to wooden homes, the environments and products contributing to toxin build-up.
• Why Zero is the Goal: The importance of aiming for no toxins—especially heavy metals and mold poisons.
• Interventions Beyond Avoidance: How filtering air, water, food, and changing lifestyle habits can reduce exposure, plus how novel medical treatments like TPE are making a difference.
• MD Lifespan’s Tools: Where listeners can find free guides for reducing toxin exposure and the importance of individualized testing.
• The Reality of “Normal” in Modern Life: Why everyone now has some toxins, and what these results mean for personal and public health.

Resources Mentioned

• MD Lifespan Guidebooks
• MDLifespan.com/guidebooks
• Free downloadable guides on reducing toxin exposure in the home, food, water, and lifestyle.
• Vibrant America Laboratory
• Vibrant America
• Laboratory used for extensive urine toxin panels discussed in the episode (contextual, not a paid promotion).
• PlasmaXchange therapy at MD Lifespan
• MD Lifespan
• Protocol for detoxifying that can remove heavy metals and PFAs, discussed for informational purposes.
• Upcoming Expert: Dr. Jill Carnahan
• Dr. Jill Carnahan
• Leading mold expert, mentioned as a future guest for deeper dives on mold toxicity.

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• Talk with AI Dr. Savage and ask anything: http://mdlifespan.com/chat
• Free 30-minute physician consult call: https://mdlifespan.com/call
• What toxins are hiding in your body? Get your toxin test & talk: https://mdlifespan.com/toxintest

Guidebooks from MD Lifespan

• Get Clean: http://mdlifespan.com/getclean
• Clean Home: http://mdlifespan.com/cleanhome
• Clean Beauty: http://mdlifespan.com/cleanbeauty
• Clean Apps: http://mdlifespan.com/cleanapps
• Clean Foods: http://mdlifespan.com/cleanfood
• Clean Baby: http://mdlifespan.com/cleanbaby

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Have you ever wondered what your body's toxin report can look like or really

what it means and how to turn those potential red flags into real action?

So in this episode, I have Dr. Paul Savage here breaking down my personal

toxin report I just took, and we're showing this on screen so you can

understand step by step what the numbers mean, what the toxins are, and also

what the numbers mean and what it tells about your health, or in this case.

My health.

So, uh, knowing's only half the battle.

So make sure to take action for yourself, get this test, and really dive in

and see what it can do for you here.

So let's dig in.

Welcome back.

Welcome back, Dr. Savage.

It's great to have you again here and.

I would say this is a kind of a carry on from the last episode that we released,

which was breaking down, uh, toxin tests.

Why the importance is of knowing your own data, the fact that

there are a bunch of options.

But the one that you're actually going to see right now is one that I got from

Dr. Savage and MD Lifespan, which was the urine test, and it blew my mind.

Like there was, there was, I learned a lot from you, Dr. Savage, when I took it.

You broke it down.

Yeah.

blow your mind of all your readers right now because.

There's, there's things about this test that people don't, don't know.

That opens totally different doors, and, and that's what my goal is

when I, I want to educate people.

Now, again, I have no relationship to vibrant Wellness, vibrant America at all.

I'm not a stock owner.

I'm just a doctor who uses this lab because I. This is the lab that

our company has chosen because of different variables of costs, the

number of toxins that they do, how the ease of administration.

These are all things that we brought into consideration.

So I just

Beautiful.

out there.

So everybody doesn't think that I'm making money on selling this test.

I don't.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And, and you do a great job.

I gotta give you a big credit because I, I am your client as well, and I,

you know, I, after I got this test, it was actually before I even got it,

you know, we, we had a call and you made it very simple to understand.

You gave me points on recommendations of what I could do

now and also in the future, and.

I'll learn.

Yeah.

Similarly to probably to what we'll be doing right now, so,

When we talk about toxin tests, people should listen to the previous

episode so they can understand the differences between all the

different toxin testing out there.

Uh, so that

yep.

gonna be talking about today is interpreting this test.

Yep.

specifically, this is a urine test.

It's very easy to do at home.

You just don't drink a lot of fluid.

00 PM you wait till about six or seven in the morning.

And you pee into a cup, you take that pee, you pour it into a tube, you put that tube

into an envelope, send the envelope to the lab, and then about four weeks later, you

Mm.

back like this.

This report is divided into a couple different sections.

One section is the summary page, which shows you every toxin that

appeared in the moderate or high level.

Mm-hmm.

Which is what you're seeing right here.

Yep.

and then you're going to see another page that has to do with

what we call the descriptives.

So they're telling you what mycotoxins are.

Keep going down further.

Joe,

Uh, it's probably gonna be more here.

you go.

This, so scroll down just a little bit.

This is a descriptive of the mic, of the mycotoxin test.

Uh,

is just giving you information about the test and then go down,

go down another couple pages.

a couple pages.

Let's see down here.

now we're getting into the individual test, um, and that we'll

talk about, this is an indivi.

This is not the summary of all the ones in the 75 and the 95.

This is a result of all of the different, uh, test results by category, and

if they did rank into the middle or moderate or high group, then

you get a little descriptive about what that toxin is underneath it.

It.

Okay, I understand then.

Perfect.

go all the way back up to the top,

Yep.

we wanna talk about is a couple different things.

Probably the first and most important thing to understand is we're testing

a lot of different types of toxins.

Here.

We're testing four, four basic categories.

Mycotoxins, environmentals, environmentals are made up of

multiple different categories.

So I mean that, but there we, we classify them all under environmentals.

Then you had the heavy metals, and then you had the pfas.

Hmm.

Mm-hmm.

categories that everybody fits in, but there's really 12 different types

of toxins that we're looking for.

Got it.

Okay.

of 'em are under the environmentals.

We'll get into that.

so next to this, in, in this toxin that you're seeing here, what the

summary page does is give you all the toxins out of the 109 that we

did, that registered in the upper 5%.

Hmm.

that's why it says it.

You're in the upper 95th percentile.

Yep.

all the ones that came into the red, and then below it, you can

see all the toxins that came into the yellow are the moderate.

You're between the 75th and the 95 percentile.

The important thing for under for readers to understand here, for

listeners to understand here is.

This reference range is not the reference range of disease.

This doesn't mean if you're green, you're healthy, and if you're

yellow, you're a little sick, and if you're red, a lot of sick.

That's not what this means.

This is a graph of all the people that were tested in the United States on

all these various toxins, and then they took out of these, all these

people, they did the upper 5% that had this, a Floxin M1, was the number

6.4 that every that the upper 5%.

And above had, they had at least more than 6.4.

So this isn't a test that shows you, you're, you're, you're good to go.

You're kind of sick, you're really sick.

This shows you, in this case, that you're in the middle group of 75% to 95%

of all Americans that have this toxin.

Now

Yep.

to that famous question.

I always give every, every episode, what's the normal level

of toxins in a human being?

We're looking at her right here.

zero.

Yeah.

be no mycotoxins.

There should be no heavy metals.

There should be no pesticide.

One of the reasons it's called a toxin is because it's foreign to the body.

Okay?

Yeah,

that's one thing.

So another thing to realize is these reference ranges

get changed every 10 years.

that's what I was gonna ask.

Like, so

every 10 years

with,

and every 10 years we have population that's more toxic.

So these numbers keep moving up.

hmm.

the same amount of people in the 5% range.

'cause that's 5% of the population.

that number has gone up considerably over the last 40 years.

Wow.

Okay.

is again, just measuring you in relationship to everybody else.

So you can't only look at it on the ones that you're in

the upper 5% and upper 25% on.

Mm-hmm.

have to look at it in the category of.

toxic is this toxin

Mm-hmm.

before, pesticides, plastics, pfas, and mold.

If you're one of those, I'm gonna give you a lot higher ranking 'cause

you don't have to have much of those to be considered toxic or super

Right.

Interesting.

And, and it looks like for each one, it, it has these symbols as well, right?

On the, on the far left side here?

Yeah.

So the symbols on the far right side, that upper, that's the symbol for mold.

Ahuh.

Okay.

That's the Aox and G one underneath it.

The DDA.

That's the symbol for environmental toxin.

Keep going down.

I'm not sure you have any more of those.

Oh, there's antimon and barium.

That symbol's for heavy metals

Okay.

And the

Uh yep.

You have a couple pfas at the bottom.

That's the

right here.

forever Chemicals.

Aha.

so they have four, as I mentioned, they have four categories, mycotoxins,

environmental, heavy metals, and pfas.

Got it.

tell you which group they belong in.

Got you.

Okay.

So, and this is, yeah, we're looking at the moderate, actually

this is a continuation of the, the moderate toxins here for me, so,

Now, here's another thing.

We've tested thousands and thousands of people across the United States

with the same test in the last two years, like 3,400, something like that.

This is a

wow.

Yeah.

The, the, the average number of toxins in the upper and moderate

range per healthy person is 13.2

13.2.

of those being in the upper 95% and eight of those being in the moderate range.

Got you.

I have a lot, is what you're telling me.

comparatively you have five in the upper range

That's true.

to you your average to the other people that we tested,

Mm-hmm.

you have much more than eight in the low, in the lower, so goes right there, seven

Yep.

Seven plus a lot more.

3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9. So 17,

Yep.

So your total number is 22, right?

Did I do my math right

Uh, I believe so.

Yep.

Mm-hmm.

24,

2007. Yeah.

I'm just,

17 plus 5,

yep.

Mm-hmm.

in the upper, and 22 in the moderate.

That's right.

already puts you in our view, at a considerably increased risk.

Even though you're healthy, normal, don't have any medical problems.

We kinda look at this in, you know, we, we've kind of started differentiating

in our group, the number between 18 and 22, and we start getting the

fact that, you know, you gotta do something about this more than just.

Avoidance

Yeah.

Well, avoidance is not the, not the answer, that's for sure.

it's an answer to keep them from going higher,

Well, oh yeah.

not, it's not an answer of how to get them down.

I guess I, I thought of avoidance of the results once you see your data, you know?

I mean, avoidance therapy.

I'm talking about how you, how you filter your air, filter your

True.

your food, get rid of the cosmetics, get rid of the chemicals in the house,

change all the kitchen utensils to something that's safe and effective.

Hmm.

avoidance therapy.

You're avoiding the toxins in the first place.

Yeah.

has to do that.

Yes.

you wanna know how to do that, go to md lifespan.com and look for

guideline guidebooks and download

I.

guidebooks.

'cause we give that information out freely.

We not only tell you how to do it, but what you can replace it

with, and we really give people steps to make it happen for them.

That is not very cost expensive,

That's right.

Yeah.

Get the guidebooks.

That's actually a really good, yeah, md lifespan.com/guidebooks.

to, um, getting you better.

Yeah, that's beautiful.

Good.

Let's see.

Uh, that was the last one right for me.

Okay.

It was, yeah.

So that's the total there.

the urine creatinine that you looked at last line there, that just, if

you're in the green, that means we don't have to adjust the variables.

But if you're really super concentrated.

And you're in the upper past, the 2.16, that means we have to dilute your results

'cause your kidneys are too concentrated.

And we want everybody to be with this within this certain concentration range.

So we, we, we equilibrate it by the kidney, which is really a

brilliant way of doing it because

Yeah.

comes in really dehydrated, they show a lot of concentration.

Then we get to water it down a little bit because they

really, it's their dehydration,

That's what that means.

So yeah, that's what we're doing with the urine creatinine is if

you're too high, we dilute it down.

If you're too low, we concentrate it.

Got it.

That makes sense.

Well, I'm hydrated, so that's a good thing.

Yeah.

Really good there.

Cut that going all.

What else should we be looking at here?

Um,

go down now.

So go down.

So we, and that's just the mycotoxins and the ones in the

oh yeah.

You have a lot of, a lot of molds.

Again,

That's what I'm saying.

very frequently, the forever chemicals, the pesticides and the plastics, what

we call the three Ps. And the mold

Yep, yep.

is very dangerous.

And people are like, well, mold's been around forever.

It has, but mycotoxins at this level of concentration have not

Right.

Well, this one specifically right?

Is uh, this one It's catch mine.

a, there's a lot of them, but I

Yeah.

in general, um, PE people confuse.

So we put all of our grain now in these silos and we leave it there

for years, and then we pull it outta the silo and we treat it with

an anti, uh, with a mold killer,

Hmm.

kills all the mold, that doesn't kill the toxin that the mold had already made.

Ah, which is in the grain now.

in the silos, these molds are making toxins.

These, these, so that they, so that they survive, you know, they make

these toxins and they make a lot of it.

And then after all these years, you have all these mold with all their

toxins, and we pull the grains out and we kill the mold and the toxins remain.

Yeah.

Yeah.

why we have such higher levels of toxins today, and mold toxins, because

all of our grain comes from silos.

Mm-hmm.

Unless you specifically get the Amish and their freshly ground wheat or the

Mennonites, I mean, and you can do that.

And I, I tell people all the time, this is one of the things that people

like, I go to a foreign country and I eat the bread and I don't get weight.

Why?

Because they don't have the mycotoxins in their breads

That's, I mean, it's true.

My, my wife is sensitive to gluten.

We went to France, had all the bread in the world, and she loved it.

It felt great.

She's not sensitive gluten, she's sensitive.

The toxins that are in the, that are

Absolutely.

Yeah.

a lot of things that.

What would you say, like on this, on this point of mold, and maybe this

dedicates to a whole different episode too, but what are some other foods?

that you're gonna get with Dr. Jill Carnahan

Ah,

the expert on mold.

she's coming up.

That is true.

She's booked in.

So what's, uh, I mean like, but really quick.

So a lot of grains.

I know environmental even, I mean air conditioning units, right?

Like,

Two things.

Joe

oh,

Woodhouse Grains.

wood houses too.

And that makes sense.

Yep.

where we get black mold from.

So you have black mold, that's the one that's STC, second from

the bottom, that's black mold.

Oh,

world, that's only moderate, but that's the one that's like, that's super deadly.

oh wow.

I didn't know that.

Okay.

TS

that's super deadly is uh uh, FB one, which you don't have, but

that's like a huge carcinogen.

okay.

That's good.

molds that are just mic, uh, MPA micro, uh, lytic acid, terrible.

Um, you know, we can talk about that, but the, and the z uh, X

on the bottom, that's terrible.

Um, so you got a lot of molds that I told you.

It's like I'm more concerned about those two at the bottom,

even though the moderate than I am on the three on the top.

Oh, really?

Okay.

That's interesting.

they're much higher toxicity of those, those two.

Uhhuh.

So

Okay.

how much you got, but it's how toxic is

Is.

molds are all mo mycotoxins are highly toxic, and those two

are the extreme of the toxic.

Got it.

Okay.

I learned something new.

Yeah.

Okay, let's move on to, uh, the, what?

One of these

category right there.

right here?

Yep.

Uh, nope.

just, now you're just looking at all the different molds by their levels

and the, the greens, they don't report, but go down a little bit.

Okay.

So we're gonna go down to this one here, I think it is.

Yep.

we're getting to the heavy metals,

Mm-hmm.

and you can see that you have five of them in the moderate.

Now, of those heavy metals, there any of those that you think might

be worse than the other one?

It gets a

Lead seems like the worst

gets a lot of publicity, right?

Rightfully so.

Uhhuh.

Rightfully so.

Gadolinium doesn't get a lot of It should, because we use a lot in MRIs

and it makes a lot of people very sick.

And previously to plasma machines, there was no way to get gadolinium out.

Wow.

Okay.

we get it out almost a hundred percent after just three plasma exchanges.

How about these other ones?

Uh, well, tungsten is interesting.

That's, that's, um, that's the heaviest metal in the world.

So it's very oxid, oxidative, odium and barium are both what

we consider moderate toxicities.

Okay.

Okay.

But yeah, really lead and, and, um, yeah,

Lead's a big one there.

that's the one.

Yeah.

Okay.

You know, interestingly enough, we're starting to see people with uranium

now, and we never did that before, but since the Fukarama Japan explosion and

now all that uranium has drifted across the Pacific, we're seeing it on the

left west coast almost exclusively right

Yep.

So, and it's almost in every single person in the, on the

West Coast, uranium toxicity.

If you wanna know how bad that is, just look up, uh, Hiroshima or

Nagasaki and be able find out how bad

Oh man.

So that would be considered a heavy metal or that's how.

Okay, well I'm on the West coast.

I don't have it, but is that like a lot of fish eating people?

What do you see?

No

drifted over.

It's in the air, it's in the soil,

what?

plant, it's, it's, it's everywhere.

And

Wow.

we're seeing, we're seeing about 25% of the people on the West Coast have it now.

Okay.

the rest of the United States, although it will make its way from coast to coast.

Mm-hmm.

Wow.

Okay.

thing about these toxins and people have to remember these toxins used

to be isolated to their little niche.

Like pfas.

Were in fish and mercury and fish, but now everything's in everything.

It's

Yep,

that, that everything's in the air, everything's in the box.

It's just like smoke.

You may smoke in one room of the house, but eventually that smell

will get every room of the house on every piece of furniture.

'cause the way it distributes to the house, if you smoke enough.

that's true.

Yeah.

Cigarette smokers.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Or yeah.

All right, so moving on down here?

Yes.

all of the heavy metals that we tested for here and, and see, you

have a lot of uranium, you're at the, you're right at the 0.02.

Oh yeah.

So that, but what's the normal amount of uranium in a person, Joe?

Zero.

I mean, so you got a, I mean, so that's what I mean.

It was like everybody on the West Coast has a lot of uranium now,

and that's one that we're really concerned about for patients.

Now you have quite a bit of mercury as well.

You almost got to 0.53.

You almost passed the threshold.

All right.

Yep.

Interesting.

And that's, well, it's, yeah.

This one's a little higher.

Yeah.

So the, this top, top page is really just again, showing 75th at

people is like, then you gotta look down to the individuals because even though

you may not have made the green, you got pretty close to it on the, on the Cadium.

Oh yeah, right over here.

Uh, sorry.

Here.

particle.

Oh.

So it's like, it's like, okay, that's, and that's what I, I'm

saying, and, and so even though a lot, even though you only have.

What was it?

Six or five or six that were

Uh, uh, five.

Yeah.

now look down below at that.

How many have a significant bar?

1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14.

Yep.

So it is like,

Geez.

that's why I said you gotta look deeper because just because

it didn't meet the green bar.

Doesn't mean that it's safe.

And I

Mm-hmm.

cadium, the level needs to be zero.

Mercury.

Your level needs to be zero lead.

Your level needs to be zero.

Uranium, your level needs to be zero.

These things are highly toxic.

It

And are you seeing, so with TPE, are you, are you seeing some big improvements

with these specifically as well?

huge improvements on the heavy metals.

Matter of fact,

Wow.

um, even within three plasma changes, the vast majority of

the metals are markedly reduced.

Wow.

Okay.

That's.

come out.

Better with TPE than any other formation.

And also they, I tell people all the time, historically, we used

to chelate, we use chelators.

Those are chemicals that you drink or get in intravenously

and they look like a crab.

Hmm.

what they do is they walk up to the heavy metal, they grab it, and

once they grab it, now the particle is big enough, the kidney can see

it, and the kidney can excrete it.

Right.

you're provocate provo provoking, um, the kidney to excrete this

material by adding this chelator.

But chelators only work with six of these heavy metals.

14 it doesn't work with,

Wow.

Okay.

I mean, and you take all the chelators combined and you're only dealing

with six different chemicals that they really chelate very well,

and the other 14, they don't.

That's one that been the problem with gadolinium.

We've been using DPTS for years, is the chelator.

It got out some of the gadolinium, but the all the other chelators didn't work.

protocol of TPE removes virtually all the gadolinium within three TPEs.

We've

Wow.

that before in medicine.

Wow.

Well, and you even said in your background, right, like you, like there

was a point where you were testing and seeing all of these things where you're

like, I can't do anything about it.

Right?

Like,

a point about five years before we started MD Lifespan that I really

was dis trying to distance dissuade patients from doing toxin testing.

They're like, why?

I said, because I can't get 'em out.

See, 30 years ago when I started working, people would have none of these.

Hmm,

what it looked like 30 years ago.

hmm.

They might have mercury, they might have lead, but now they have 14.

But they, before they only had one and all the

Oh, geez.

visible, and I could use chelators on that person to make them better

because the problem was mercury and mercury, I could get out,

Mm-hmm.

but today the whole forest is on fire.

So just going in and taking out one or two trees, if I took out one or

two of these chemicals, it's not gonna change your equation here.

Right.

have 12 other ones that are super high.

Hmm.

So you were looking at the numbers and not having a procedure to to back it up and

just that the, the, the number of toxins in every different

aspect became so overwhelming.

No single therapy for any single toxin became effective because

just pulling that one toxin out.

you

wouldn't do anything?

Yeah.

so here we, here we go, that math again, this test tests

for about a hundred toxins.

Currently in the United States, there's 150,000 toxins.

we took representatives of all this.

So if we really wanted to see how many toxins were in the moderate or high

level for you, we would take the number that you had in the high and moderate,

which was 22, multiply it by 1500.

'cause 1500 times a hundred would be 150,000.

Right?

1500 times 22, it's 33,000.

You really have 33,000 toxins in the moderate and high range, not just 22.

Mm-hmm.

I follow.

testing for one 10th of 1% of all the toxins that are in the United States

Wow.

Wow.

And that's just because what the tests are there or they're, maybe

A lot of 'em we can't test for.

we just can't do it.

Yeah.

have tests for maybe three, 400 of these chemicals that are available, maybe

500 now that are available through the government and available clinically.

This is probably the best test that we have, but there's other ones we can in.

But even if I added all of 'em together, I probably only get up

to two to 300 out of most of these tests we can't even test for.

Geez.

Okay.

So we got, we got a long way to come still, but I mean,

and it seems though for.

testing is people get these test results and they're like, and they don't see

any in the moderate or high level.

Maybe I got three, nobody's negative anymore.

Somebody, everybody's got at least three.

That's the lowest we've ever seen.

Um, but, but when you start looking at these other numbers below and

all these other numbers are coming up to the green, honestly, in many

of those cases, like mercury, you need to get mercury down to zero.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Uranium down to zero.

I mean, no uranium is good in the body.

So what, what would those specifically, I mean, what, what kind of effects

to the body do, do you think?

is well known as being a neurotoxic, so it's related to

Alzheimer's and Parkinson's and dementia and cognitive decline.

Uranium is a radioactive, so it's related to cancer.

Everything that uranium touches turns into cancer.

Most specifically, thyroids tend to be thyroid.

Glandular tissues like testicles and ovaries tend to be most susceptible,

but it can present as brain cancer.

It can present as.

sorts of different things.

So, you know, it,

Got it.

basically known for cancer.

Mercury is basically known for all the other,

Got it.

Okay, so let's move on.

Let's, uh, let's kind of, I think that, was that the last big one actually?

yeah.

So

I

Oh,

a, this is a good place to to end the end.

The talk here today, because

yep.

about all these different, now, why don't you just show the pfas,

which is right near the bottom,

Right near the bottom.

So we'll go.

Is that this one?

Here we go.

one.

So here's the pfas.

These are the forever chemicals.

These are, these are the ones that the government on the CDC website

says highly toxic, bad news.

Avoid these at all costs because there previously wasn't a way

to get these out of the system.

And these are really resistant to being pulled out because all

the pfas, the pesticides, and the plastics and the microtoxins, they're.

What we call fat soluble.

The the fat loves the storm and that makes 'em harder to get out.

So even the pfas, you had, I think two of 'em listed, but you have a number

of 'em that are getting up there also.

And none of these are

Oh yeah.

Right.

And this one's pretty close.

Yeah, it's, wow.

Yeah.

And this, I mean, there's so much to even just study and understand what

each one of these are, but the point is.

with MD lifespan, even on every single one, the basic protocol with the

plasma machines, with the nutrients and the vitamin therapy, we're getting

the average amount of pfas we're getting down by 50% now 30 to 50%.

Now, people are like, well, that's not a hundred percent no, but if

you're at that, let's take that PFH.

Xs like mid.

Yeah, that one right there, it's at 0.215.

If I got 50% of that down, you're at 0.1.

That's huge.

Yeah.

lower than where you are right now.

And while into the lower 75 range,

Right,

the pfas haven't gotten up to the red yet.

So we're not getting the 95% reduction that we see because as you get closer

to zero, it gets harder to remove them.

That's just math.

I mean, it's

right,

the way body works, the, the, the less cigarette packets you got around the house

to pick up, the harder it is to find them.

right.

As a, an example.

Yeah.

So as

Oh man.

we always do, Joe ending this conversation with all the

listeners, do your toxic testing.

You don't know what you, not what you don't know is going to hurt you.

Hmm.

That's it.

Know your data, it's, you have the availability, you know the

ability that is to even do this and, and do it for yourself.

logic or decisions on what you need to do or how you need to proceed forward

without knowing exactly where you are.

That's right.

Dr. Paul Savage, I appreciate you and your time, man.

website, or whether you get that from your doctor or your integr, it

doesn't matter, but go to your doctor and get a and get a toxin test done.

Get it done.

Well, thank you again for opening my eyes to my own results, but just

sharing it, uh, this is why I've been waiting to do this, so I'm happy

we're able to, and hopefully someone here, uh, triggered something in

your mind to go like, okay, gotta go.

Like that was, that was the, the needle, you know, on the

haystack there I was looking for.

So thank you very much.

And, uh, we'll do it again soon.

Thanks.