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The Power of Relational Philanthropy | Revisiting Our Conversation With Doris Olafsen
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What truly happens when dreams and values align in philanthropy? Join hosts Johan Heinrichs and Wendi Park as they delve into a heartfelt conversation with Doris Olafsen, a seasoned coach and connector in the world of relational philanthropy. Doris shares her rich experiences in fostering collaboration between churches and community agencies, highlighting transformative moments from her work with CareImpact and the inspiring story behind her initiative, Do Philanthropy. Emphasizing the importance of authenticity, trust, and genuine relational connections, Doris and Wendi explore how dreaming can lead to impactful community change. Dive into discussions on engaging donors as whole persons, the significance of building relationships rather than transactions, and the power of shared dreams to drive philanthropic success. This thought-provoking dialogue encapsulates what it means to bring together hearts and resources for the greater good.

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[00:00] Introducing this episode with Johan

[04:11] Doris helped amplify Care Impact’s mission successfully.

[09:01] Community support transforms lives, fostering potential.

[11:10] True wealth isn't just financial; it's community.

[14:28] Passionate clients inspire and energize my work.

[18:33] Be you, persist, kingdom work has abundance.

[20:23] Donors value authenticity and connection, not transactions.

[24:31] Helping dreams, God's kingdom, and collaborators thrive.

[28:30] Dreaming is in my DNA, transforming lives.

[32:09] Big dreams for others; inspired by legacy.

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Do Philanthropy: https://www.dophilanthropyinc.ca/

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Hey there. Johan here. Welcome back to Journey with Care. I'm so glad that you're

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here as we continue our replay series as we await the anticipated

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season 4 coming in February. Today, we're bringing

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back a a standout conversation from season 2 episode 3, where

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Wendy sat down with Doris Olafson. This episode struck a chord with

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many of our listeners when it first aired, and we got some amazing feedback on

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it. So whether it's your first time listening or your second, we think it's

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worth revisiting. Dora shared some of her incredible journey from growing up

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in poverty to becoming a coach, a connector that helps leaders

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realize their dreams. She and Wendy explore the idea of relational

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philanthropy, how giving can go beyond financial contributions. They

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talked about the multifaceted nature of poverty, the importance of

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whole person giving, and how real relationships can transform both

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donors and the cause that they support. There's so much

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wisdom here. It's an inspiring conversation full of practical insights and

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big picture hope. So let's dive right into this conversation with

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Wendy and Doris.

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Welcome to the Journey with Care podcast. I am so excited to

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introduce to you somebody very special to me here

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in Langley, BC. We have Doris

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Olofson. Welcome to the podcast. So much fun to be

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here in person with you. It is. We have gone to know each other over

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Zoom. Right? And we've become I feel that we've become good

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friends because I'm like, oh, I just need more Doris in my life. Everybody needs

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more Doris. So I was here in BC, and I'm thinking, oh, I have to

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introduce you. Well, I just love that we could actually be

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face to face because you have so much energy in life, and it's just

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every time I talk to you, it's a joy, but to actually meet few minutes

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ago, we hugged for the first time, but we've, grown close over

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the last few months. You have been very

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helpful for me and for Care Impact, but can

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you tell us a little bit about yourself and what is it

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that you do? Wow. That's a really great question. I

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think I've had a lot of titles over the

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years about what I do, but I think what I do is

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I help people unlock

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that dream or that vision that's in their heart, and I help

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them find a way for that to come true. So I'm kind of I've been

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called a matchmaker. I've been called a coach when

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that wasn't my official title. My team gave me the title

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coach. And, basically, I love to see

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the reality of funds needed for visions realized.

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And in the scriptures, there's a story, and if you

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ask me who do I relate to most in scriptures, there's a story

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about this little boy that was sent. He brought this

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5 fishes and 2 loaves, and, but what

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about the guy that introduced the little boy? So his

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story doesn't often get told, and it's just a skinny

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little story in the scriptures, but it changed everything. It was a game

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changer. Go find lunch. Go find lunch.

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And Andrew went and found this little boy. Well,

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he's got something to give, and so the master asked for

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something. They went and found the resources, and

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Andrew introduced them. And then what happened? We know

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the story. The beauty of the story was that that

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connection changed everything in that moment, not

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just for the people that were fed, but for the people that were part of

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that, making that connection happen, and for the

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disciples. And everybody that was there, they were a witness to what

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a connection does, so I'm a connector, and I love to be

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that introducer. So I love to work with philanthropists,

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and I love to work with charities. And I've been

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involved in fundraising, development, advancement,

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philanthropy, whatever name you wanna put on it, for the last 25

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years, and I've had the joy of watching

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charities succeed because they

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have helped a donor's dream come true.

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No. That's beautiful, and that's what I've experienced coming to

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you. And, somebody, a friend, a mutual friend

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connected me and said, you need to talk to Doris because

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I knew that Care Impact was onto something,

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and I knew what we were developing was something new and needed

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across Canada. Research was showing that God was revealing that to

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us, but there was something missing that I I just, like, how do

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we get those loaves and fishes to the people? There

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I need some help here, and you were that person for us. And

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and it was so it is so helpful. You finished

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you helped me finish a project recently, a case for support, and it

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became so much more. It really helped articulate my why.

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And but tell me, like, so many times in ministry,

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we think of, well, how many children do we serve? How

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many bowls of soup? How many projects have we

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worked on, and that direct in person help

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with the most vulnerable. Now what I

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appreciate about you, you you see philanthropy. You live philanthropy

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like that is ministry because it is ministry.

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Can you help give us that perspective of how you

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see philanthropy and fundraising, not just as a

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necessary means to an end, but that in itself is

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ministry. Can you talk to that a bit? So there's

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2 ways of of coming at this conversation. I wanna

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come at it from the the funder side.

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The reality is we've seen the ads. It's in us to give.

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We were created to give. We're created to live in community. There's

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something that God has placed in us that makes

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us want to pay it forward or give back. Like, it

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there is something to that. But the adage about

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fundraising, like begging for money or donors

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being overwhelmed by requests coming their way, there's a

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way to actually engage with a donor in a

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place where they are living, and it's where

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their heart is, it's where their values are, it's what aligns

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with them and who they are and why they've been created,

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that the giving part, whether it's giving a

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$100, a $1,000, 10,000, a 100,000, or

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a $1,000,000, it goes to who they are as

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a person and what's important to them. For me, it's always been

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important to know the person on that side of the table, to

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really get to know the donor's heart. Right.

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Then it's more than just underwriting and and writing out a

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check so somebody else can go do work. There really that becomes partnership.

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That's right. When you know and I've been accused of this. I've worked for a

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number of charities, a couple of charities that, you know, if you know me, you'll

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know where I've worked over the years, but, and I've

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been known to tell donors this isn't the right charity for you to be involved

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in. And that's just speaks to

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the ethical approach that you have to have when you're talking to

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somebody about why they would want to give their money to

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something. It's meaningful, but it might not be right for them. It

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might not align with who they are, what's important to them, and where they want

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to make a difference. So it's understanding

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the donor, understanding the charity Mhmm. And knowing what the

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charity is doing, that they have credibility, that they have

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integrity, that they are about transformation, and they aren't

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transactional. That's where you get into the the numbers game. Right.

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So impact is super important. Outcomes are super

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important. But at the end of the day, transformation on both sides of

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the table is super important. And I think I've used the word

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super a lot here, but I mean, it's really important that

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it's not transactional, that it's transformational, and that it's

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ongoing. It's sort of that that loop of

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engaging with donors that can engage with charities,

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and then the charities are engaging with the donors. And it's like

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the humanity coming together and building a bridge and

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people working together to solve a common problem or

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make an initiative happen or underwrite a

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vision or a project that is impossible

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without both parties being involved. So Right. So I grew

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up in poverty. I am the daughter of a single

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mom. She had 3 kids back in the day. There was not any social

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assistance or so I know what it's like to live in

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poverty in Canada. I totally understand what it's like to be the

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9 year old girl wearing rubber boots with plastic bags on my

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feet in 40 below weather in Prince George,

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BC. Wow. And to have a 2 week old baby that I

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have to brother that I have to pick up after school and take home and

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get dinner made. So I understand what it's like to not

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have what I need, but I also understand

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what it meant to have community come into my

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mom's life and make all the difference as we

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were growing up. In that community, it was teeny tiny. We had

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no faith orientation at that time as a family, but this

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teeny tiny community came alongside my mom

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and helped her help us, and it was the community that she went to

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work with every day. So I understand what it is to have somebody

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believe in you and invest in you and help you

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see your potential as a person, and I was

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never treated as a charity case. I was always

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treated with integrity and respect that there's something in

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me that makes me want to help

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other boys and girls' families organizations

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that have a need that they can't meet. Yeah. And that's

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that's really interesting. And coming from a place of

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understanding as a child, you learned early on

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we need to need others. Yeah. And I think there's

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something very profound about that that maybe

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in a family that has everything or an organization or a church

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that has, we quickly

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lose that need for each other and

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that need for community. And one thing that I I learned,

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through you and and others around me is that

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me asking a potential donor to get

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involved is actually a sign of

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humility of just saying we need to work together, but

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knowing also that they need to be part of community

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too. There's a relational poverty on everybody's side. And so

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would you say that fundraising and philanthropy,

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doing fundraising is really an act of

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community development in some ways? So I was talking

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about that little girl that grew up in poverty, but then, you

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know, the Lord has opened doors, and I have walked with some of the

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wealthiest people in Canada. I have had the privilege of being

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and the pleasure of being in their company, but I've also been with some of

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the poorest people on the planet. And I've realized there's

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poverty looks different everywhere because some of those

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wealthy families are living in so much poverty. They might

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not have financial poverty, but they don't have community, or they don't have family,

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or they don't have fellowship, or they don't have meaning.

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And people with economic poverty, they quite

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often have other forms of wealth that

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people that have financial wealth are missing.

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So for me, somebody actually

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said it's so pastoral to be in the work Mhmm.

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Where you are bringing people together where a fullness

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is this this sense of fullness coming together in community

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for the fullness of the vision being realized on both

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sides, so not just on, you know, I'm I'm very

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anti, hero or, you know, there's

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phrases out there, white savior, all that. Like, that is totally

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not my domain, but I'm also not on the slick

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and marketed and bag lady on the is this gotta

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be authentic. It's gotta be real. It's gotta be real on both

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sides. It's gotta be real for the donor. It's gotta be real for the charity.

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Authenticity comes to the to the forefront

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of everything. If it's not there, it's pretty soon revealed.

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Yeah. For me, my greatest joy in life is working with people

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like you or working with a

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philanthropist who finds his way. Like, I've been dreaming about

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doing something like this for my whole life or working with a a

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fundraiser development person and helping

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them have the courage to just, you have

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something incredible to share. Like, don't be afraid. Well,

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you you have been so encouraging. Every time I

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come off on a high when we have our sessions, and and you've

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been coaching me for a few months now. And every time I come off on

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such a high and it it comes across, and I I do believe it

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is, in a very genuine space that you are an encourager. Wow. And you're

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you really coach and, like like, you can do this, Wendy. You know?

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And and we're gonna help you get there. Yes. That is possible. That is

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such a ministry to ministry leaders that we

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also need people to coach. And and I'm a big believer is

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find people that are smarter than you, wiser than you, that

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that have gone ahead of us and and can lead the way. And so

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I've really found for Care Impact that you've caught our

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vision, but then you've helped us and you've challenged me

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with it. And how do we get that communicated? What would you say

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to other, ministry leaders that are sort

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of feeling stuck, maybe feeling stuck like I was? Let's

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go back to that first conversation. I'm like, what do I do? Right? What

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would you tell them, people that are wanting to do ministry, but those

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budget lines just aren't moving, and those bake sales just aren't bringing

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in what they need? Yeah. Can I just before I say

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something to speak to that, I just wanna go back to that first

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meeting and when I met you, and I thought I've told people,

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she's a pistol? Like, this girl this girl, she

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is so passionate about her

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calling. And I can't believe a bit in it. But

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you know what? I can't encourage people that can't be encouraged.

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And when I met you, and I have other clients too right now that I'm

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working with, that I just love working with them because they give me

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life because they are so passionate about what they're doing. And

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for me, just helping you see

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you have a treasure. You're a gem, but you also have

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a treasure that people are looking for. And, you know,

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whether you're you 2 or something, they still haven't found what they're looking for. They

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haven't met you yet. They haven't met you yet. So I would say to

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those other organizations, the ones that are where

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the leaders are just they're exhausted or they're they're fundraising, you know, they're

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trying to do it by the book, or my husband always used to say to

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me, just be you. Just be you. Just go to work today and just

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be you. And, I mean, I started out doing this, not

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really knowing what I was doing, and then the Lord was just

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gracious and merciful and brought people in and who coached me and

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mentored me along the way. Most of them were donors, and they told me what

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not to do and what to do, and I'm so grateful. And some of them

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are still in my life Mhmm. Coaching me, but

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it's just be you. So to that charity

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leader, there was a reason you were called into this.

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There was a passion and a fire in your belly. If there

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wasn't, you might not be in the right place. Mhmm. But there

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was a reason you were called into this, and you have a message

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that people are waiting to hear, or you have, a

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mission that people have been looking for. And you just need to find

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those people, and they are there. The funders are there because they're looking for

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you too. So it's just be you

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and be true to the call that you have, and then get

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the skills. You you have the skills. You had all the

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tools. You just didn't know how to put them all together. Right. And it

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was beautiful watching

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my associate, Kim, and I, we talked about you after too. It was just

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so fun watching you wrestle through some of the hard

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questions we would ask, and you always knew the answers. You just

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hadn't you always knew the answers. You just didn't know how to put them or

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where to put them. So I would say to other charity leaders, you probably

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know. You just haven't maybe had the right questions asked of you

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or you haven't had some somebody that can direct you or just

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take this path or go down this way or what about this? And I

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think for all of us, sometimes when we hear our own voice, we think,

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oh, that's the answer. Yeah. And you just don't

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realize you knew it all along. Well, just being you, just

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as a simple example, I walk into Walmart, and I see a

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greeter. There's 2 kinds of greeters. 1 that is

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just so happy to see me, and I wanna just give them a hug

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because they're just a happy they're in the place to be. And then there's

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others. I'm like, dude, just be well on

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your way. Like, just cut these losses. Go find a job that

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you're passionate about. But I think we that's a very

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simple, facetious kind of example, but or

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McDonald's or any business owner.

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But in nonprofit or in Christian ministry, we have

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to find our sweet spot and be honest with that. I know for

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myself, there's a lot of things I'm not good at.

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But if I just put myself in the perspective, well, this is what a nonprofit

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should do and I'm gonna just suck it up and just be something inauthentic,

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I think I would be fairly miserable. And so, I

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really like that message. The other thing is it's pretty handy to

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be just you. It's easy. It's so authentic. It's so

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easy. It is. And if you're not afraid to be you, and I think

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that's, if you're not afraid to be you. I mean, that

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and being a fundraiser is not for the faint of heart because you're gonna get

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you might not get a ton of yeses until you figure

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out where you're going and how you're going. And even then, there may

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be people that say, no, that's not my that's not my thing. And that's

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okay because you're gonna get enough. You know, I'm working in Christian

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ministry, especially. There's more than enough in the kingdom. For a

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kingdom work, there is more than enough, and it just

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needs to be unleashed. Again, that's relational poverty, though, I see because

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there is more than enough, but people just need to know people and

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align, not just for their their checkbook, but really for those

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connections so that this philanthropist can be really passionate

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about education or really passionate about coffee beans or whatever it

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is. There's a place for everybody in the

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economy of God. Yeah. Absolutely. And, you know, it can be

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the $5 philanthropist or the $5,000

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philanthropist. It it philanthropist is such a lovely word because it's,

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it's about the whole person giving. You know, the

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definition of philanthropy is about a wholeness of giving. It's not

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just about money, right? So you're actually asking people to engage with

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their whole self, their whole life, and

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money is just one part of it. You're on a journey together, and

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that's where the meaningful place is. And that's why I'm really excited about

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for Care Impact because you're about relational equity

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Mhmm. At the table, but you're also about you wanna bring people in.

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This is gonna be a relational organization. So We always say everyone

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belongs is part of the the child welfare puzzle. Yeah. Like, every

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single person, maybe directly or indirectly,

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but they're all part of it. Mhmm. We're all part of it, but

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donors don't like to feel like ATM machines and that I first

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heard that, I think Mark Peterson was doing a workshop, but he

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said, don't ever treat a donor or a foundation or a

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business like an ATM machine. And you know what? The people know

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that the minute they, that's for the authenticity.

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But if you're passionate about what you've been called to do, the mission that

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you're on, the mandate that you have, and you've done your homework and your

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due diligence and you have a plan and you're prepared,

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there are people waiting for you to share that story with them,

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and people will want to introduce you to other people that they

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know. It's that whole connecting. Most of the

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relationships I have are a result of somebody

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introduced me to somebody that they know. Like, their

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trust Yeah. Was part of the you know, that's

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the equitable currency, I think, in this

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work called fundraising at its core. It's if you

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can't be trusted, you know, you're not I'm not gonna introduce you to

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my friends or my neighbors or my family. But when

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you gain trust, I mean, that that changes

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everything. And then the other thing to remember is when people

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give you money, they're giving you part of their heart.

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Mhmm. And so you really have to be

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mindful that you have been entrusted with something that's very

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close to because they could give it in many ways. That's

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right. To many organizations or to many things

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and experiences that but they've chosen to give in this way,

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so that is part of their heart. And then there's an

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intimacy that comes with that, and then you'll probably get to know the the

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family. And and it's not just the money. They wanna volunteer their time,

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or they wanna introduce you to some of their colleagues at

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work or their employees, and then they start to open up their spheres of

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influence where they come and engage and they serve in your

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organization or they become advocates and spokespeople. It's

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not just about getting money. It's about engaging people

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for a whole life experience. So you really have

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to manage resources well

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and with integrity. And, you know, there have been times

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in in my life when I was actively fundraising

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for organization where a project would have failed.

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Well, rather than gloss over that or, you know, try

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to make it something that it wasn't, I've gone back to the funder and

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said, this failed. This project failed. What we had hoped would happen

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didn't happen. Well, when you tell the truth and

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when you tell the good and the bad, when things don't

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go well, you're taking your trust quotient up to the

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next level. Right? So relationship,

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transformation, trust, integrity, like, there's just you've got it

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all, Wendy. Like, I think I have I have a big dream for you, and

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I love dreaming dreams for other people. I'm a dreamer too, so this

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is dangerous here. I I traveled around the world

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with a lot of people, and I always would ask them in Latin America. I'd

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say, Kelly, so soeno, what is your dream? But I would ask the person

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we were meeting with in Latin America, but I'd also

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ask the person that we had taken. And Sure. Very often, the dreams

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were compatible. And there was a lot of,

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shared dreaming. And I have a big dream for Care

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Impact. I have a big dream for Du Philanthropy. God

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put Du Philanthropy in my heart during COVID,

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and I just thought, I want something good to come out of COVID. There was

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a lot of things that we all went through and different experiences that I

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had as a as a new widow. Yeah. And I thought,

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how will I spend the next season of my life? Yeah. Because you could have

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done anything and made this a segue. Let's let's I'm gonna go to the

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Caribbean, or I'm gonna just I don't have to work, but You don't have to

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work, but you chose to do philanthropy and serve

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people like myself. There must be an inner drive, a

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dream within you. Yeah. Because I love watching dreams come true,

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and I want to work with people and organizations

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that are hungry to see a dream come true or God has put

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a dream, a god sized dream in their heart, and they don't know how

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to get from where they are to where they wanna go. And so

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that's my dream for Du Philanthropy is that kingdom will

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move forward and that God will use myself and my

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associates. I have some incredible people that have said, I wanna be

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part of this. And so I have, Kim Parker, a

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writer, and Allison Chapman, who's just phenomenal,

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on the development side, and, Scott Fahrenbacher, who's now

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working with Habitat for Humanity. But all of them are my associates, and we

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work together and collaboratively on different projects, but we all have the

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same heart. Nice. We have a heart for God's kingdom to

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move forward. We have a heart to see charities succeed, and we have a

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heart for philanthropists to have their dreams come true too. So it's like

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shared values, shared heart. I don't know if I told you this, but the

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whole springboard for Care Impact led us to today.

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It started with my husband and I had a literal dream

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the same night we woke up from the same dream. It wrecked us in

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a good way. We were like, what do we do with this? We didn't know

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the full picture, and thank goodness we didn't because we would have been scared by

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it. We we would have disqualified ourselves so quickly. But

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it started with a dream, and we just put one foot in front of the

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other, and, this is where we we ended up.

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It's, and I can only imagine what God's going to do

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as you connect agencies and frontline workers

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with churches across our nation. God is

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waiting and wanting those 2 to work together more

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significantly. Before I came here today,

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I live in a strata with 28 units, and,

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we've been talking about doing something in the community. And in my church, we're

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encouraged to have an outward, it's called, and so

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to be constantly thinking outward. So our strata

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has we're committed to our local food bank. And so

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I I dropped off today. And so every month is a drop

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off at the local food bank for the we're only 28 units, and I

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when I unloaded my, vehicle before I got here, I

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was like, oh my goodness. Like, I only could think was this little

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community has, once again, is full of diapers and

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all these things that are so desperately needed, but they were

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just waiting to be asked to do something in the community.

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Now they're excited about what can we do for December. Like, every month, it's like,

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what can we do for this month? And I'm thinking, we should've been doing this

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for years. We'll have to get Langley onto Care portal because well, that's what we're

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finding, though. Like, we we have the Care portal that connects the

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needs in the community that are identified by social services and front lines

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With community, there's never a lack of resources. It blows

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me away the kinds of requests and their individual requests as unique as the

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child in the family situation. They come through and we're thinking, will this ever

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get met? But sure enough, there's somebody that's a plumber. There's somebody

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that loves to to bake. There's somebody that has this size of

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clothing or this car seat. There's always enough stuff. And

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what is beautiful is that there is an energy about that when we're

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connecting people within the community. There's always

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resources. Yeah. There's just a lack of connection. Yeah. That's a great

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example that you you just gave. So if we go back to that little 9

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year old girl in Prince George, and I used

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to sing this song in my bathroom with a brush. Why can't we

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be like storybook children is the the song, but I used to sing

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that. And I used to dream dreams about one

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day one day, I will live in a nice house, and one

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day, I will because I started dreaming when I

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was really little, but I didn't know I was dreaming. And then

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when I met my husband and we got married, the song that we

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danced to, our first dance was, dream. All you have to do

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is dream, dream, dream. So dreaming is part of

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my DNA, and I used to be that kid that teachers and

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parents would say, quit dreaming. As I age, I

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know it's totally okay to color outside the lines. It's

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totally okay to dream big dreams. And I have seen so many dreams

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come true for so many people, whether

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they're a charity or a family in need

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in my community or in another country, or it's a donor who's

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just doesn't know how or is too afraid to,

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or is nervous about getting involved or speaking to others

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about their giving. I've watched people's lives

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be transformed. I don't wanna spend the rest of my life helping

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dreams come true. As long as God gives me breath, I wanna be that

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person that said, Wendy, I

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know that Care Impact is gonna change Canada. Amen.

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Amen. The way the church engages. And

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one day, we will just all be looking back saying, well, we've

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always done it this way. But But it started with a dream. It started

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with a dream. And you know what? With every dream, there's an equal amount of

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need to get there, and and it seems like absolutely

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impossible. But I've told people other people asking how

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we're developing this and how do we get started. And and I said,

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you know what? One of the best gifts for us, starting off with a

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dream, but one of the best gifts for us was starting with $0. And

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I'm actually serious about that because if we had a $1,000,000

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in a bank account and somebody said, here you go, just go do good in

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the world. Go make your dream come true. I don't I think we

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woulda had a a rent sort of what everybody else is doing. We

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wouldn't have fought for what we were dreaming. We wouldn't have needed

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other people and invited people. We've gotten to know so many organizations, not

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because, hey. Look. We're your dream come true. We're saying, this is our

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dream. Can you envision this with us? Can we join together? And that

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with the philanthropists. And all of our donors out there, I'm just so

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grateful that you started to dream with us. You started to be

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part of our story, not our story, but our

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story, including you and I. And so it's no longer just the Harold and

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Wendy show. It is all the people that we've been able to connect

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with, the agencies and the the nonprofits and the

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philanthropists. We have started dreaming together. And I realized when

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God puts a dream in your heart, it's not just my dream

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to keep. If I let it out and I'm bold enough to

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just just put it out there on the table, This is what I say when

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I go into churches or into, social service sector. I don't

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have to sell them Kool Aid. I don't have to sell them that that's a

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good idea. Because inevitably, within those pews, there's people that already it

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awakens something they already have too. They're just figuring out their

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purpose and part of that. And so that is

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my my wish that we've got a long way to

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go. I'm still dreaming. I still feel like I'm just this far

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past the starting line. And we're gonna be continuously

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inviting people to dream with us, and this dream is bigger than what we can

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do. And that's why we partner with a lot of organizations too, because this dream

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is bigger than what we can accomplish on our own. You've been

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part of our dream, and you're making dreams come true. We

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know, like, in that whole adage about, you know, get your head out of the

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clouds, stop dreaming, if we didn't have those famous

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heroes of the faith that have gone before us, like, I have a

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dream. Yes. We all know. We don't even

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have to all we have to say is, I have a dream, and we know

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where that came from, and that dream changed our world that

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we live in today. So I can't say

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that for myself, but I do have big dreams for the people

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that God brings into my path. And I'm so grateful, Wendy,

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that Du Philanthropy gets to work with Carry

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Impact. And here's a really funny little sideline. I've always

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known my initials are d o. Like, I've

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always known that, but it was only during COVID

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that it hit me when I was praying and talking to my

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kids about, you know, what would I call this chair, this

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this coaching or consulting, whatever it is that I'm doing

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encouraging, what would I call this little enterprise? And

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so when we came up the name, you know, Doris Olofson Philanthropy,

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and my daughter son. I can't remember which one. Just said, well, why don't we

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just call it Du Philanthropy? And I thought,

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oh, Du Philanthropy, Inc. It works. When I told

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my lawyer, he goes, he just said when he was putting all the paperwork

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together, he just said, that totally makes sense. It's who you

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are. So my tagline is, let's do this.

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So let's do this, and I got that from you. Yeah. You you helped

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me, and you didn't even realize it sitting in your little Shasta trailer,

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And I read your blackboard, and we're on Zoom, and I thought We get to

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do this. And yours says we get to do this, and I just thought,

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let's do this. Like, and you're talking about your dreams, and I just thought, let's

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do this. So my tagline came from you, so I have to that to say

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That's awesome. Yeah. And we're gonna keep dreaming, and we're gonna keep

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inviting other people to dream with us. And as a result,

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dreams will come true for children and families, for girls

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in rubber boats with plastic bags on their her feet, and

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for so many others. And dreams will come true to churches that are

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tired right now, that are tired after a pandemic and wondering

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up from down and where are their congregations going, what is the way

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forward. It's gonna be dreams coming true for philanthropists that

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wanna make a difference, but just wanting to see where they can actually put

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value into the community. And

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everybody can be part of this dream. So thank you so much, Doris, for

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being part of this podcast and being part of my life.

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I'm already looking to the future. We're already strategizing for next

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year. I'm just so grateful to dream with

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you. Me too. Thank you, Wendy.

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