A recap of all 7 episodes from this Your Parent's Money Mindset series to help you take positive action
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Joseph Okaly:Hello, and welcome to the series three, Your
Joseph Okaly:Parent's Money Mindset series recap. We really covered a lot
Joseph Okaly:so far this season. We talked about bridging that initial
Joseph Okaly:financial conversation gap, better understanding your
Joseph Okaly:parent's existing mindset, how titling and account types will
Joseph Okaly:affect what you receive, to really the major medical
Joseph Okaly:expenses and exposures. That's a lot. It's valuable, actionable
Joseph Okaly:information but as I always say, at the same time, we don't want
Joseph Okaly:to be overwhelmed by it, right? If we take positive action on
Joseph Okaly:one of these seven relevant episode topics, you and your
Joseph Okaly:parents this time around, are better than you were before. And
Joseph Okaly:you should really be proud of that. You're improving not only
Joseph Okaly:your life, but your parent's life too. The people that have
Joseph Okaly:really looked out for you since you were born. We also want to
Joseph Okaly:make sure we're remembering the goal, remove anxiety and
Joseph Okaly:financial worries so we can focus our energy on what matters
Joseph Okaly:most, enjoying more living with family and our friends of
Joseph Okaly:course. Whether it's our own financial anxiety or that
Joseph Okaly:anxiety derived from our parents well being the same end result
Joseph Okaly:is reached. So the kind of worry that goes away when you know
Joseph Okaly:your parents aren't going to run out of money. Knowing your
Joseph Okaly:parents are covered medically and not going to come live with
Joseph Okaly:you kind of worries you might have. Know where you're going to
Joseph Okaly:have to go to or talk to when your parents pass away kind of
Joseph Okaly:worry. Know how to handle some of what you may receive when it
Joseph Okaly:happens, worry. So be proud of all these steps as you take
Joseph Okaly:them. You're making life more enjoyable than for you and as
Joseph Okaly:that natural consequence based on this series, for your loved
Joseph Okaly:ones as well. Lastly, stay tuned to the end as we're going to be
Joseph Okaly:announcing our focus for the next series to come, which is
Joseph Okaly:always very exciting.
Joseph Okaly:So without further ado, get together with your spouse and
Joseph Okaly:let's review. Number one, how to talk with parents about money.
Joseph Okaly:So the main point from this initial episode here is to
Joseph Okaly:acknowledge that money is hard to talk about. But there are
Joseph Okaly:very significant reasons why you should think about having those
Joseph Okaly:conversations with parents. The first is to head off any bad
Joseph Okaly:track earlier than later. No surprise they have to come live
Joseph Okaly:with you. And secondly is the reverse of that, where if
Joseph Okaly:they're in a good position to get them thinking about making
Joseph Okaly:the most out of their money that they've worked so hard to earn
Joseph Okaly:over their lifetimes. Either way, know that they are almost
Joseph Okaly:certainly coming from a very different money mindset. So
Joseph Okaly:remember, very likely no public Venmo purchases with emojis.
Joseph Okaly:Lastly, start bridging that gap by asking very basic financial
Joseph Okaly:preference questions. So how many banks do you use? Do you
Joseph Okaly:like credit cards or cash? When did you start talk, talking to
Joseph Okaly:somebody about investments, things like that. So those that
Joseph Okaly:are kind of expressing maybe concern without being invasive?
Joseph Okaly:Again, the goal is to start a conversation, not tell them why
Joseph Okaly:they're wrong.
Joseph Okaly:Number two, your parents trust their advisor. The main point
Joseph Okaly:here from this episode is if you were able to form that
Joseph Okaly:conversation around money with parents, don't underestimate the
Joseph Okaly:trust they likely have in whoever they're already working
Joseph Okaly:with. Your parents are older, they've likely been working with
Joseph Okaly:them for a very long time. Secondly, while you may be used
Joseph Okaly:to asking why-based questions, your parents may not be. They
Joseph Okaly:didn't grow up with the internet to fact check or self research
Joseph Okaly:everything. If the professional said it was this way, then many
Joseph Okaly:times you just kind of went with it. You didn't have any other
Joseph Okaly:options, you can go research it on your own very easily. Lastly,
Joseph Okaly:if you are able to ask some more thought provoking questions. So
Joseph Okaly:for example, what life expectancy assumption did your
Joseph Okaly:advisor make? How does your annuity actually work? And who
Joseph Okaly:does it go to if something were to happen to you? What assets
Joseph Okaly:transferred directly as opposed through the will and again, this
Joseph Okaly:is the one that most people just always kind of assume it's all
Joseph Okaly:going to pass through the will, but a lot of assets especially
Joseph Okaly:annuity retirement assets, do not. Be respectful again. The
Joseph Okaly:goal is to have them think and evaluate and ask your opinion as
Joseph Okaly:needed. The quickest way to get shut out is to preach to them.
Joseph Okaly:Episode Three, What About Mom? Surviving Spouse = CFO. This
Joseph Okaly:deals with the fact that one of your parents is going to outlive
Joseph Okaly:the other one. And the one that is going to be the longest
Joseph Okaly:living may not be the one who currently handles the finances.
Joseph Okaly:If that is the case, you are going to have to provide
Joseph Okaly:significant assistance. Having both parents fluent to some
Joseph Okaly:degree in what is going on financially ahead of time really
Joseph Okaly:is the smartest approach. I shared how with my own
Joseph Okaly:grandparents, my grandfather passed first, but because his
Joseph Okaly:illnesses kind of stacked up a little bit, as time went on, he
Joseph Okaly:had the opportunity to teach my grandma enough about the
Joseph Okaly:finances so that now today she's able to manage. If you find
Joseph Okaly:yourself needing to assist, start with organizing with what
Joseph Okaly:they have. Generally the best place and starting is with the
Joseph Okaly:bank accounts. Lastly, help in adding extra awareness in
Joseph Okaly:certain areas for that surviving spouse, such as you know, Social
Joseph Okaly:Security, where they're only going to maintain the higher of
Joseph Okaly:the two. Life insurance where maybe, you know, they don't know
Joseph Okaly:where the documents are, they already paid it off. So you
Joseph Okaly:don't want to miss that obviously. Annuities which have
Joseph Okaly:so many moving parts, many times. IRAs, which is an all
Joseph Okaly:likelihood not be immediately liquidated to help ensure no
Joseph Okaly:unfixable mistakes are made when it comes to taxation. And then
Joseph Okaly:the last part of that, which we also mentioned, was talking
Joseph Okaly:about making sure to have that appropriate power of attorney
Joseph Okaly:(POA) in order. Because now with one spouse, if something were to
Joseph Okaly:happen to them, you need somebody that can speak on their
Joseph Okaly:behalf if you need to you your sibling, somebody.
Episode number four:Inheriting Assets, Opportunities and
Episode number four:Headaches. Here we touched on how there can be a lot of
Episode number four:headaches that come up, whether through incorrect beneficiaries
Episode number four:being listed, incompetent executors, or just scattered and
Episode number four:disorganized paperwork. These can significantly delay the
Episode number four:settling of the estate cause issues in taxation, or really
Episode number four:worst of all, it could mean that money goes to people they didn't
Episode number four:want it to go to. The best course of action by far is to be
Episode number four:proactively asking some questions again, to your parents
Episode number four:ahead of time. These are not you know, how much do you have mom
Episode number four:and dad? How much you guys worth kind of questions, just
Episode number four:questions to make sure that they have their ducks in a row. Does
Episode number four:everything go through your Will you have retirement accounts?
Episode number four:They probably don't go through your will. Are you sure who the
Episode number four:beneficiaries are? Do you know where any important information
Episode number four:is? Should I know where any important information is now, or
Episode number four:at least who to go to in order to find it if I need it? So
Episode number four:questions kind of like that.
Next episode:Step Up! The Gain Is Gone. Here we covered the
Next episode:current rules again, as of the spring of 2021. Were
Next episode:non-retirement account gains are essentially wiped away from the
Next episode:individual inheriting again, the non-retirement assets. The
Next episode:second thing to make your parents aware of though, is some
Next episode:of those general questions we touched on. Because quite
Next episode:frankly, we find very few people have these things kind of
Next episode:explained to them. So again, the broad workings of this step up
Next episode:rule, you have a stock, I bought it, it's worth $50 a share, it
Next episode:goes up to $120 a share, I pass away. The person that is
Next episode:inheriting that account, all that gain is wiped away here.
Number six:Inherited IRAs, More Limited Options. So while the
Number six:last episode Step Up! The Gain Is Gone, could possibly be
Number six:changing with the current administration over here,
Number six:inherited IRAs already were changed back in 2019, with the
Number six:Secure Act. So this episode, we focused on how these inherited
Number six:IRAs now have new unique rules, where instead of being able to
Number six:have a lifetime distribution window, it's been shrunk all the
Number six:way down to 10 years. All the money in an inherited IRA has to
Number six:be distributed within 10 years. However, your parents do still
Number six:have some powerful options at least, in potentially minimizing
Number six:that tax and they can do that through what's called a Roth
Number six:conversion. So ask your parents, did you hear about how they
Number six:significantly changed the rules for people inheriting IRAs? Do
Number six:you know if your plan is set up to properly try and help
Number six:minimize or reduce these total taxes paid long term so that
Number six:Roth conversion can be powerful because you can take those
Number six:assets, and you can move them into a place that could be
Number six:growing tax free, instead of leaving them currently where
Number six:they may be in a place that they're going to continue to
Number six:accumulate tax deferred, meaning that it's going to be a large
Number six:growing tax burden that you may likely have to be, you know,
Number six:paying at the top of your working career.
Number six:And finally, number seven, Retiree Healthcare for Parents,
Number six:A Lot Isn't Covered. This was a really, really important one.
Number six:The takeaways here are to realize your parents may not be
Number six:fully aware of what coverage they have medically in
Number six:retirement, and could possibly be assuming they are more fully
Number six:covered than they actually are. So talk to them about what they
Number six:may have. Say that there are certain things that are only
Number six:partially covered by Medicare, and others that are flat out not
Number six:covered at all, like essentially all long term care expenses.
Number six:Remember there is that guaranteed issue or acceptance
Number six:period right after losing existing medical coverage for
Number six:obtaining that Medigap supplement. So again, Medicare
Number six:only covers roughly the first 80%. That extra 20% you do need
Number six:to fill either with a Medigap supplement or with a Medicare
Number six:Advantage plan. And even a rough plan of what would happen in a
Number six:long term care situation is highly, highly recommended. What
Number six:do you guys going to do? Do you need to use your home equity?You
Number six:have an account that you're not touching? Did you just happen
Number six:enough to be lucky to have purchased a long term care
Number six:insurance policy back in the day before the prices went up so
Number six:much? What is our plan if God forbid something happens?
Number six:And so there you go, the first series I have ever heard about
Number six:trying to help you speak with your parents about money is
Number six:complete. So take some time to review these important areas.
Number six:And remember, again, if you can make one positive change just
Number six:one, then you are one step farther along and having life be
Number six:more enjoyable for you and this time your parents as well.
Number six:If you can absorb and implement all of the items that's
Number six:fantastic. That's great. You have an ability to now really
Number six:take big leaps ahead for where most where most people
Number six:unfortunately tend to be. So I'm happy to be able to provide this
Number six:to you. If it is overwhelming, if you have questions, just want
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Number six:Now to finish off today, I still need to share our next series as
Number six:promised, which is entitled The Main Money Misnomers. Have you
Number six:ever wondered as an advisor, what are the main
Number six:misunderstandings when it comes to money that I get most
Number six:regularly? I'm going to share some of those most prevalent
Number six:misnomers I come across, especially when it comes to
Number six:young families. We are going to cover tax refunds, goal setting,
Number six:crypto, what's actually worse than death, and even Hershey
Number six:bars. So it's a really wonderfully unique, colorful lot
Number six:of topics that you may have thought about before and with a
Number six:little information can likely worry about less than the
Number six:future. As always trying to help in achieving that goal that we
Number six:always have here of making life more enjoyable. So thanks for
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