Wrapping up the episode, the hosts shift gears to discuss the latest tournament happenings, including a recap of the Vander Pharmaceuticals Hellenic Championship won by Novak Djokovic, who faced injury woes yet again. The chat meanders through the current ATP rankings, the performance of promising young players like Alcaraz and Sinner, and the ever-present question of who will rise to challenge the established top players. With engaging quizzes that test their knowledge and plenty of hilarious anecdotes, the episode maintains a fun atmosphere while still highlighting the intricacies of the tennis world. The hosts tease upcoming episodes and promise to keep the audience engaged with more tennis-centric discussions, making it clear that Talking Tennis is not just another sports podcast but a lively, humorous take on the sport we all love.
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Hello, everybody, and welcome to the much anticipated debut of talking tennis.
Speaker A:We've been the buzz of the sports world all week, and we've finally arrived.
Speaker A:I am your host.
Speaker A:They call me Adam the Animal.
Speaker A:And I'm joined by my two partners in crime to discuss the world of tennis.
Speaker A:First off, to my virtual left, the man they once called a child prodigy.
Speaker A:He had all the talent in the world, but unfortunately, his growth spurt only took him too far.
Speaker A:Five foot eight and a half.
Speaker A:It's Chrissy P. How are you this evening, Chris?
Speaker B:Jeez, that is some introduction.
Speaker B:And I gotta say, I'm.
Speaker B:I'm very pleased to be here, but five' eight and a half, that's.
Speaker B:That's an insult.
Speaker B:It's five' nine, but, hey, we'll get there.
Speaker A:Well, it would have made all the difference for you going pro.
Speaker A:And to my right, the man who could have gone pro, but his training regime consisted of KFC Hungry Jackson, less midweek training sessions than Bernard Tovic.
Speaker A:It's Adrian.
Speaker A:How are you, buddy?
Speaker C:How you going, boys?
Speaker C:Good to be here.
Speaker C:It's.
Speaker A:Thanks, mate.
Speaker C:Thanks for the nice intro as well, by the way.
Speaker A:No worries.
Speaker A:I try and be accurate with my intros.
Speaker A:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker C:Very accurate, mate.
Speaker B:It's not that hard to get more sessions in the Bernard Atomic these days.
Speaker B:But I've got to say, before we.
Speaker B:Before we get right into it, he's.
Speaker B:He's just been working hard at the challenger tours.
Speaker B:I mean, he's not giving up, but I suppose what else is he good at?
Speaker A:Was the challenger tool he was playing at?
Speaker B:I don't know the names of these cities.
Speaker B:It's very hard to pronounce.
Speaker B:It's not, you know, they're not known, but it's all over.
Speaker C:Playing against no name is Mount Carmel tennis tournament.
Speaker B:Yeah, he hasn't stepped.
Speaker B:He hasn't gotten that low yet.
Speaker B:But I tell you, his trajectory might go that way.
Speaker A:Age, my friend.
Speaker A:I'm going to throw to you first.
Speaker A:I've been on the Internet all week.
Speaker A:There's been a lot of rumors and speculation and innuendo about your medical condition.
Speaker A:I want you to put the rumors to bed and just tell everybody, straight from the horse's mouth, are you okay?
Speaker A:And what the hell is wrong with you?
Speaker C:The question on everybody's lips.
Speaker C:Yes, indeed.
Speaker C:So.
Speaker C:A recent diagnosis of celiac disease.
Speaker A:Jesus.
Speaker C:Which has severely harmed my ability to consume the foods and beverages that I have enjoyed my whole life, unfortunately.
Speaker C:But it's here.
Speaker C:And I think the most frustrating part is you live your whole Life knowing what glory is out there.
Speaker C:And now you're restricted to the.
Speaker C:The gluten free products which not only tastes like but is extra expensive.
Speaker C:So the rumors are true.
Speaker C:They are true.
Speaker A:Have you always had that or is it something that just came up like, hey, why now after 30 something, 7 years of life?
Speaker C:I don't know.
Speaker C:But I heard that it's a gene that could be switched on later in life unless I have had it my whole life and the intolerance just wasn't so severe and maybe I'm feeling bloated but just never knew the difference.
Speaker C:Maybe I associated bloating with feeling full.
Speaker C:Yeah, interesting to see.
Speaker A:Maybe it just got worse over time.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah, so interesting to see after a few more weeks to see how my body reacts and yeah, take it from there.
Speaker B:How has this impacted you getting back on the court though?
Speaker C:Back on the court.
Speaker C:So that's a, that's a whole other story for another podcast, I think.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:If we had to go through your full medical.
Speaker B:I mean it's a big list.
Speaker C:Sure is.
Speaker A:And you just wait since you've cut out bread from your whole life.
Speaker C:Well, yeah.
Speaker C:For two weeks.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker A:So there's a plus at least.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:So maybe your road back to the tennis court will be back sooner rather than later.
Speaker C:Maybe.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker C:If you boys are up for it, I'll be keen to join again.
Speaker C:Do my knee again.
Speaker C:You know, everything that goes with it.
Speaker A:Yeah, your introduction to Tuesday night.
Speaker B:No, no, no, that's fine.
Speaker B:I was just going to say Adrian's introduction back into social tennis was short lived.
Speaker B:I mean he wanted to move like Carlos, Carlos Alcaraz on the red dirt, but the.
Speaker B:His knees just.
Speaker B:They wouldn't not allow it.
Speaker B:No preseason, it's.
Speaker B:What do you expect?
Speaker C:Lucky I was partnered with you when it happened.
Speaker C:So you were able to just do all the heavy lifting while I just sat there at the back.
Speaker B:Oh yeah.
Speaker B:The pep talk that, that ensued straight after the initial injury was, geez, I think I've done my knee.
Speaker B:I'm gonna need you to do all the, all the run here.
Speaker B:I'm like, that's all right, mate, just get disturbed and get off the court and I'll take care of the rest.
Speaker C:Sit at the net.
Speaker A:Blame myself actually, because I think you filled in for me that night.
Speaker A:So 100% my fault because I was not there.
Speaker C:Well.
Speaker A:All right, well age, you keep us posted on your.
Speaker A:Yeah, I look forward to hearing all the gluten free varieties of all the foods you have to eat and how Terrible.
Speaker C:It was updated.
Speaker C:Don't worry about that.
Speaker C:When I discover some new.
Speaker C:Some new products, you can still have.
Speaker A:An open kebab just without the bread, right?
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:Deconstructed kebab.
Speaker A:Deconstructed kebab.
Speaker A:Deconstructed burrito.
Speaker A:Gluten free pizza.
Speaker A:How bad could it be?
Speaker B:Oh, it's bad.
Speaker C:The pizzas I've had, some of the base is not too bad.
Speaker C:Not too bad.
Speaker C:I expect worse.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:But I appreciate your concern for my well being and my health.
Speaker A:I am concerned.
Speaker A:I know how much you love Cabat.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker A:All right, Chris, did you have any other questions for Adrian?
Speaker B:No, I think we'll park it for another time.
Speaker B:I'm sure our thousands of viewers are just hungry just to dive into the deep world of tennis right now.
Speaker A:Okay, well, I'm gonna have a standing bit for Adrian and he's.
Speaker A:And he's gluten free updates each week, so we'll get more of that.
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker B:We'll make it.
Speaker A:Chris, I know you're chomping at the bit to talk about the biggest news story of the tennis world in the last couple of weeks.
Speaker A:It is, of course, battle of the Sexes.
Speaker A:It was announced last week that we're going to get part two of Battle of the Sixes, which will take place on 28th December in the place where, of course, it's known for women's rights.
Speaker A:Dubai.
Speaker A:The world number one women's tennis player, Ariana Sabalenka, versus, I'll say, a very respectable ranking of, well, 658 in the world.
Speaker A:Everyone's favorite tennis player in Australia, Nick Curios, of course, comes 50.
Speaker C:Sorry, sarcastic.
Speaker C:With everyone's favorite.
Speaker C:Some.
Speaker C:Some of us here appreciate the curiosity.
Speaker A:That was not sarcasm at all.
Speaker A:I was playing a strike.
Speaker B:Are these, like, fans who have no clue about tennis and just love the theatrics and the drama?
Speaker B:I'd say to them.
Speaker A:Yes, not the hardcore tennis fans like the hundreds of thousands of people listening to this podcast and the three of us, of course.
Speaker B:Well, Adam, I don't know where to begin.
Speaker B:I mean, with.
Speaker B:With this.
Speaker B:I mean, can we even take this seriously?
Speaker B:Will Kyrios even take this seriously?
Speaker B:I. I just feel like it's going to be treated like an exhibition.
Speaker C:I'd like to know, are there any other rules or settings that have gone with it, or is it just going to be a straight out match?
Speaker B:Well, that's the thing.
Speaker B:If it was a straight out match, then it'd be probably a bit more legitimate.
Speaker B:But the fact is they've brought in the courts for Sabalenka side, I believe 9% of the total length and width of the court.
Speaker B:So really theory there she has to cover less court.
Speaker B:But I don't know, I feel like when you've been playing behind the baseline for your, you know, entire career at a certain length and then you take away, you know, part of that dimension could go against you.
Speaker B:And also the fact that there's just one serve, so no faults, just one.
Speaker B:If it's one serve, it's out, it's point to the other player.
Speaker B:So I guess that might inhibit, you know, curious from having just two first serves.
Speaker A:But it's going to be serving underarm for most of the match anyway, right?
Speaker B:Oh, that, that's a lock.
Speaker B:I, I would expect that he'll be serving underarms in his first service game just, you know, just to show the crowd that's that's what he does, that he's arrived.
Speaker C:Well, he's made a few provocative comments in the lead up, you know, saying women can't return our serves and that he doesn't need to be 100 to beat her anyway.
Speaker C:So I didn't know about this one serve rule which has changed things.
Speaker A:There's a couple of things.
Speaker A:It's a, it's a, it's a best of three with a 10 point tie break.
Speaker A:If it's one sets all, there is only one serve.
Speaker A:And as Chris mentioned, both the width and the length of the court on Sabalanka's side will be reduced by, I think 9% is the number that's being thrown around.
Speaker A:So there are some modifications, I guess, to the match which has meant that the legitimacy and the why are we bothering with this?
Speaker A:Questions have come up.
Speaker A:Because it's not really, it's not really a straight up match.
Speaker A:I know there's been some critics out there that have said the same thing, but people will watch it because it's a spectacle.
Speaker A:And I don't think there's any other tournaments going on on the 20th of December either, so.
Speaker B:And I think Curiosity's calendar is quite open in that time as well.
Speaker B:So I don't think I had much on apart from playing Nintendo.
Speaker A:I think 2k27 is due out or 2k26 is due out around that time.
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker A:I don't know how that's going to affect his career mode on the NBA.
Speaker B:Yeah, I mean, it might conflict with his schedule of playing basketball with his friends.
Speaker B:I mean, people say, oh, he's training.
Speaker B:I Mean basketball.
Speaker B:It's a type of cross training you do.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Well I might bring your attention to a match back in.
Speaker C: I think it was: Speaker C:This.
Speaker C:The William Sisters, they played against a German player and they made a call saying that they could be any man outside the top 200 so I've forgotten his name.
Speaker C:This.
Speaker C:This German player.
Speaker B:He.
Speaker A:I remember the match but he was a no, no name player.
Speaker A:A quick Google search tells me his name was Carsten Brush.
Speaker C:That's right.
Speaker A:And he played against both the Serena sisters in a separate match.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker C:And then taking on Serena, beating her 6:2 and there were reports that he had a few.
Speaker C:Not Chardonnays.
Speaker C:Shandies was it?
Speaker A:Sure.
Speaker B:What were they?
Speaker C:Oh no, he had some.
Speaker C:He was consuming alcohol in between the match and before the match.
Speaker A:According to this dodgy Google search it says he played the tennis match after a round of golf as well.
Speaker C:That's right.
Speaker A:Again, I don't know if that's people botching his Wikipedia profile but is quite amusing.
Speaker B: ouse the night before back in: Speaker A:He was ranked 203 in the world.
Speaker A:That's fairly decent curiosity.
Speaker A:658 I think.
Speaker A:I think Chrissy P's ranking is.
Speaker A:Is closer to that than bit curios is to number one.
Speaker B:How many ranks outside the top 500 have beaten, you know, the likes of Federer, Nadal, Murray, Djokovic?
Speaker B:I don't think many or if any.
Speaker A:So how many, how many tournaments has Kyrgios played this year?
Speaker B:Zero.
Speaker A:Question without notice.
Speaker B:Oh, I couldn't even tell you.
Speaker B:It'd have to be less than 2.
Speaker B:Did he even play the Open?
Speaker B:Did he?
Speaker B:Well that.
Speaker B:That'd be one.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:And when did.
Speaker A:My memory doesn't go any further than last week.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:When did his injury occur?
Speaker C:I can't remember.
Speaker C:It was early on.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:It may have even been pre or before this year but yeah his injuries wouldn't have made him retire any tournaments.
Speaker B:I don't think he.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Bothered to attempt any.
Speaker C:Yeah, I think so.
Speaker A:The big question.
Speaker A:Sorry Adrian.
Speaker C:Oh yeah I was going to say the only thing I remember him of him this year was when he was upset that was it the US Open or Wimbledon didn't want him as part of the commentary team.
Speaker C:It was kicking up a stink about that saying why wouldn't you want someone who's.
Speaker C:It must have been Wimbledon because he was saying why wouldn't you want someone who's made a final?
Speaker C:And a few other comments.
Speaker B:Well he's going to hang his hat on that final for pretty much everything probably because he's just as.
Speaker B:He's a terrible commentator and he hasn't had much insightful comments.
Speaker B:He probably wouldn't even make it on this podcast too.
Speaker B:Even if he asked.
Speaker B:I'd tell him to off.
Speaker A:So a couple of points.
Speaker A:He did have a sit down interview.
Speaker A:Sorry, not him.
Speaker A:I'm jumping ahead.
Speaker C:On.
Speaker A:I'm speaking to other Chris's the other one of Chris's mate that we'll speak about very shortly.
Speaker B:I have so many.
Speaker A:So many.
Speaker A:So he's Curiosa's last match was in July this year he played a doubles match.
Speaker B:Oscar Pelka.
Speaker B:That does not count.
Speaker B:Oscar Alia Pelka.
Speaker B:Doubles does not count as a match.
Speaker A:I'm just saying that's his last actual recorded match of the year.
Speaker A:It was in July this year.
Speaker A:We're going to jump to the quiz very early but on the spot quiz.
Speaker A:Who did he partner with in that tournament in Washington of July this year?
Speaker C:Stock.
Speaker B:An American.
Speaker A:It wasn't an Aussie.
Speaker B:Yeah, I was not saying American soccer jock.
Speaker A:Mitch, It's a well known player, a veteran.
Speaker A:He's been around a long time and it wasn't Djokovic.
Speaker A:And Chris, I'm going to request you turn your camera off because your connection is terrible.
Speaker B:We're out here in the sticks.
Speaker A:They haven't got Internet out there and hopefully we can hear a little bit better because you're cutting out.
Speaker A:Adrian, what's your guess?
Speaker A:Veteran tennis player, been around a long time.
Speaker A:Not an American, not an Aussie.
Speaker C:Well, yeah, my guess was Djokovic before he said it's not Djokovic.
Speaker A:It's also not Djokovic.
Speaker C:Any other hints?
Speaker A:He's probably over 30.
Speaker A:He's been around a long time.
Speaker C:It's from Europe, not Stan the Man.
Speaker A:Is it that there's not many veterans running around these days?
Speaker A:He's one of very few from the vintage era that are still running.
Speaker A:It is Gal Monfis, correct?
Speaker C:Yes, that's very.
Speaker A:The Washington tournament.
Speaker A:Very good age that.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Just buying time for your Google search.
Speaker C:Very good.
Speaker C:I did not.
Speaker C:Oh, I was about to, but I guessed it before I searched.
Speaker A: was back in March at the ATP: Speaker A:He lost.
Speaker A:He lost in the round of 64 to a guy whose name I'm not even going to try to pronounce some Russian dude.
Speaker C:All right, well so that's that.
Speaker A:Not Yevgeny Kefalnikov.
Speaker A:He's.
Speaker A:He's not running around anymore.
Speaker C:Too busy on the front lines.
Speaker A:Jesus, let's not go there.
Speaker A:Adrian, what's your prediction for the battle of the sexes?
Speaker A:Who's your winner and how many sets and also, how many underarm serves is Kyrios going to do in the whole match?
Speaker C:This is the.
Speaker C:The important question here.
Speaker A:So we asked the important questions on this podcast.
Speaker C:Yes, I think it will go.
Speaker C:I think it'll go to three.
Speaker A:It'll go to three.
Speaker A:Just for the theatrics.
Speaker C:Yes, there's.
Speaker C:I don't see it coming playing out in a straight set.
Speaker C:I think Kyrgios will win in three sets, and I can't see him taking it all too seriously, but I think his pride might get in the way a bit too much to lose.
Speaker A:And he's not going to say it out loud, but he doesn't lose to a girl, right?
Speaker C:That's right.
Speaker C:And the more important question is how many underarm serves?
Speaker C:I'm guessing five.
Speaker B:Five.
Speaker B:Five.
Speaker A:Chris, are you going to take the overs or unders on that?
Speaker A:5.
Speaker B:We're going for definitely overs.
Speaker A:I mean, I knew that was coming.
Speaker B:You're going to get five in the first set alone.
Speaker A:You're going to get five in the first set, did you say?
Speaker B:Yeah, and I think it'll die down after that.
Speaker B:You might probably get one in this in the second set and you might chuck in a few late if it's, you know, he's not going to do.
Speaker A:Any in a tempo and tiebreaker in the third.
Speaker B:Surely if he's going to do them, he'll do him early.
Speaker B:But in terms of the scoreline, I'm going to say Sabalanka only because I really want her to win.
Speaker B:And then obviously, naturally, Kyrgios will, you know, say he wasn't trying.
Speaker B:It was an exhibition and all that, yada, yada, yada.
Speaker B:But we'll go Sabulanka.
Speaker B:4, 6, 7, 5, 10, 4.
Speaker C:Jeez.
Speaker A:A specific score line.
Speaker A:I like it.
Speaker C:That's why they're paying the big bow.
Speaker A:I like it.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's.
Speaker A:That is why he's the only one who gets paid on this podcast.
Speaker B:Yep, I'm in the red.
Speaker A:So if Djokovic is playing this battle of the sexes game, does that mean he is all in for the Aussie Open?
Speaker A:And if he is, will Chris be watching in attendance?
Speaker A:Round one next year?
Speaker B:Well, by Djokovic, I hope you mean curios.
Speaker B:And no, he.
Speaker A:Sorry, I get them confused, Chris.
Speaker C:They're your.
Speaker A:Your mortal enemies.
Speaker C:They're best mates.
Speaker B:That is another.
Speaker B:He'd be forgiven.
Speaker B:Certainly not.
Speaker B:I mean there'd be, you know, talk that he, he will.
Speaker B:Or he might say he's in training and yeah, body feels good and clearly not.
Speaker B:But even if he does get up, you have to receive a huge wild card and you'd be, yeah, I couldn't, couldn't see him playing a best of five.
Speaker A:He might 658 of the world to give you direct entry.
Speaker B:Yeah, you have to get a wild card.
Speaker B:That's what I mean.
Speaker C:He might play doubles.
Speaker B:As.
Speaker B:As we've stated, it does not count.
Speaker A:Arcus again.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:It's the only way he'll make it past the first round.
Speaker C:In a doubles and a doubles.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker A:Chris's prediction will not make.
Speaker A:Will not get out of first round singles.
Speaker A:If that's a good prediction.
Speaker A:We like a good prediction.
Speaker B:Arena into an absolute, you know, circus.
Speaker B:You'd have to be an absolute freak show.
Speaker B:A night in France with Mutei playing and you know, against, against Medvedev and Mute's got, you know, the crowd inside.
Speaker B:You have to be such a spicy night.
Speaker A:I was about to say that.
Speaker A:Would they pit, would they rig the drawer and pair him up with someone like that who's like between 5 and 15 in the world, a big name.
Speaker C:Where's sister pass ranked now?
Speaker A:Last I checked he was in the 30s.
Speaker A:I want to say slipping.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:I think since his breakup with Podosa, he's just spiraled out of control.
Speaker A:I think all these people now.
Speaker B:Philosophy quotes on, on Twitter.
Speaker B:I think that's what he does now.
Speaker B:I think that's his full time gig.
Speaker A:I need to follow him then because I'm all for philosophy quotes.
Speaker B:They're not very good.
Speaker B:I mean, we'll just stick with Plato and Marcus Aurelius and you know, those likes.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:Why?
Speaker A:Okay, interesting.
Speaker A:He's 34 in the world, Adrian, so.
Speaker A:Yeah, he's still in that top 50.
Speaker C:Well, that would be fun.
Speaker C:A curious scissor pass first round.
Speaker B:I. I'd almost want Mute and Curios, I think.
Speaker B:I don't think they've ever played, but I reckon you're.
Speaker B:You're going to get some good value.
Speaker B:I did.
Speaker B:I'd even, you know, pay front row seats at Rod Laver and you know, pay an arm on the leg to witness that.
Speaker A:I like the Medvedev call as well.
Speaker A:I think that'd be a good matchup only because I've seen it before.
Speaker A:It was very fun.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:And yours truly was the only Medvedev Supporter in the whole of Rod Laver Arena.
Speaker A:Yeah, we were one of about 20 Russian supporters in the crowd that night.
Speaker A:20 is being generous.
Speaker A:It was, it was less than 20, but yes.
Speaker A:And we were public enemy number one and two.
Speaker A:Yeah, more so you, you were.
Speaker B:Yeah, I think, I think really showing.
Speaker A:Your support for Medvedev bending and clapping.
Speaker B:The change of change events.
Speaker B:Yeah, really stuck out like a sore thumb there.
Speaker A:It was all happening.
Speaker A:All right, before we move on, did anyone have any other thoughts, observations, comments they wanted to make on the battle of the sexes?
Speaker A:Manny, we've got six weeks before this match actually happens, so we can always revisit it.
Speaker B:Yeah, I'm sure we will revisit.
Speaker B:I'm sure there'll be no more news that comes to light before then.
Speaker C:Hopefully a few more tweets on curios.
Speaker C:Oh yeah.
Speaker C:Yep, yep.
Speaker A:It's like fire for Chris to, to jump at.
Speaker B:Just can't resist.
Speaker A:No, you love it.
Speaker A:All right, and more red meat for you, Chris, before we jump to the tournament that is happening at the moment in Italy.
Speaker A:There was a tournament, a 250 tournament in Greece, Athens that just finished up last week.
Speaker A:The Vander Pharmaceuticals Hellenic Championship.
Speaker A:That's a mouthful.
Speaker A:A tournament that was relocated to Greece for from Serbia that was won by another one of Christopher's favorites, Novak djokovic, defeating the second seed and world number nine, Lorenzo Musuti.
Speaker A:4666, 375.
Speaker A:It was an interesting match because as far as I understand and correct me if I'm wrong, Chris, the winner was meant to go through to the end of year tournament which no back obviously won, but then pulled out with a shoulder injury after winning the match.
Speaker A:Chris, tell me why the injury is full of.
Speaker B:Well, it just was just so much to take in.
Speaker B:I mean djokovic playing a 250 tournament at the age at what, what is he, 37?
Speaker B:I mean it's, it's mind baffling to see that he wants to be, you know, taken part in a low ranked tournament, but maybe the ATP finals was his motivation.
Speaker B:But yet he won and chose to pull out.
Speaker B:But as for the shoulder injury, I can't really recall if it's something he sustained on the court or maybe something he's, you know, just planning a bit more long term, maybe in preparation for the ao.
Speaker B:But I think he has some special ties to, to Greece and that maybe explains why he was playing there to begin with.
Speaker B:I think there's some Serbian revolution going on right now and I believe that he had to Relocate to, to Greece.
Speaker B:He's moved his whole family and no shock was it to find out that his whole family, his parents were in attendance of, of the final.
Speaker B:I mean can you imagine Novak Djokovic playing a 250 tournament?
Speaker B:Parents, family, they're all there.
Speaker B:I mean you just, you, you wouldn't see it.
Speaker C:I have seen him be very vocal about what is happening there in Serbia.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:In he's been speaking out against the government as far as the bits that I've seen.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:And yeah, maybe that's what's caused the whole friction there with the government and him relocating.
Speaker C:Well, you mentioned Adam, that there was the winner was going to participate in the ATP finals, but was he already going, was he already top eight?
Speaker A:Regardless, I think he was eighth going into that.
Speaker A:But and Chris, correct me if I'm wrong, I believe had musetti one he would have jumped Djokovic and got into the final because I believe they were that close on the rankings as far as how I read it.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker B:I do not know.
Speaker A:Because I think it was a match the winner, there was extra stakes on the match that the winner actually would have got through.
Speaker B:I just think part of me so just wants to believe Djokovic chose to play that tournament.
Speaker B:He would have lost probably more matches than he would have won.
Speaker B:And Djokovic maybe just want to protect his image, especially before a Grand Slam and I might sit this one out, you know, let the likes of top dogs go at it and you know, I'll try and you know, I think.
Speaker C:That'S a good point.
Speaker C:You're playing up against the best players and you know, we've, we've spoken about this already about.
Speaker C:Yes, they're the best players at the moment, but not the best players he's played against in the ATP finals, that's for sure.
Speaker C:But you know, it is a lot to be running around out there at his age and then backing it up.
Speaker C:It's not like you're first facing a wild card and then a couple days later you're playing someone ranked 60 and then you're playing someone ranked 30.
Speaker C:You're playing top eight players every, you know, every few days.
Speaker C:It is a lot for his body to handle.
Speaker A:I guess you're playing at least three matches and more if you get through.
Speaker C:Yep.
Speaker A:The other school of thought is he just trying to patty stats to get up to 109 tournament wins.
Speaker B:101.
Speaker B:Correct me if I'm wrong or is it 109?
Speaker A:The record's 109 and I won't say any more because there's a trivia question later on about.
Speaker A:But he's on 101 at the moment.
Speaker B:Oh, there you go.
Speaker A:109 is the record, the opening record.
Speaker B:Maybe he just wanted to get off a hundred career titles and that's why play the old 250.
Speaker A:The tournament was also meant to be in Serbia, so maybe it was just because it was the Serbia tournament that he wanted to play that as well.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:How late was it canceled from Serbia and then moved to Greece?
Speaker C:Was it a very last.
Speaker A:I am, I am not sure.
Speaker A:I am struggling to find information around the movement of the tournaments and why.
Speaker A:So I dare say if it was linked to these protests, that maybe it was a last minute thing.
Speaker B:That's.
Speaker B:That's classified, boys, under Serbian government officials there.
Speaker B:You know, you're not getting access to that.
Speaker A:I thought Adrian might have some inside or.
Speaker A:Yeah, somebody on the inside.
Speaker C:No, sorry.
Speaker A:Okay, that's okay.
Speaker A:Maybe you've got more insight on the end of year tournament that's happening at the moment.
Speaker A:Favorite time of year where eight men battle it out for supremacy in a round robin tournament.
Speaker A:So the eight players are split into two groups.
Speaker A:The first group being the Jimmy Connors group where we have Alcaraz, Demonor, Fritz and lti.
Speaker A:While in the beyond ball group we have Zverev, Shelton, Sinner.
Speaker A:And I'm not going to try and say Felix's last name correctly, even though I've practiced beforehand.
Speaker A:Did any of us catch the highlights this morning of Demon or.
Speaker A:And me?
Speaker A:I'll be honest, I haven't, but I was watching the scores frantically and a little disappointing by Demon or he got done by the Italian who Chris said, I quote unquote, can't play on hardcore.
Speaker B:Yeah, well, just as well.
Speaker B:Yeah, can't beat a top 10 player.
Speaker B:So, you know, someone's got to win.
Speaker C:I think you think the home crowd advantage would play a part as well.
Speaker A:That is also true.
Speaker A:I didn't, I didn't factor that in.
Speaker B:Demon all had five, three in the third.
Speaker B:It was theirs, it was his.
Speaker B:Rather he just.
Speaker B:His demons are coming to haunt him and he cannot just, you know, get a top 10 even despite the fact that we'll say he's, you know, 11th in the world.
Speaker B:But you, you get my point.
Speaker B:He just does not have the arsenal, the weaponry, just to put away the big plays.
Speaker B:And I saw an interesting stat today.
Speaker B: player was in Medvedev in: Speaker B:So he's lost 14 in a row to top 10 players.
Speaker A:That's a start.
Speaker B:It's getting out of hand.
Speaker A:That's why you get paid and we don't because that's, that's a, that's a.
Speaker B:Hell of a statistic.
Speaker B:It pays to follow our tennis on Reddit.
Speaker A:I did see some of the highlights of his match with Alcaraz and not sure if you guys saw any of that, but man, oh man, some of the rallying in that match was off the charts.
Speaker C:Yes, I had a few notes.
Speaker A:Alcaraz.
Speaker A:Yeah, you took some notes.
Speaker A:Fantastic.
Speaker A:You took almost than I did.
Speaker A:I'd love to hear them.
Speaker C:Well, they weren't very detailed, but that first set in particular was a very high quality tennis and a bit like what Chris mentioned, Demon or although he can maintain it for a set, but you could see that drop off.
Speaker C:Alcaraz is able to just maintain that consistency and that level and Demon or just cannot match it.
Speaker C:But that first set was brilliant tennis, whether you watched it or watched the highlights.
Speaker C:But yeah, highly recommend.
Speaker A:It was, it was intense.
Speaker A:The thing I took out of it was just Demon or no matter what he did, as hard as he hit it, as wide as he hit it, Alcaraz was just an animal getting everything back and he just forced Demon or to just hit another shot, hit another shot, hit another shot.
Speaker A:And yeah, to Chris's point, he just didn't have the.
Speaker A:The Arsenal to just hit clean winners and put him away.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:Chris, did you see any of that match?
Speaker A:No, it's not.
Speaker A:And if you're going to be a hustler.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's hard to hustle.
Speaker A:The hustle king.
Speaker B:Yes, he's got a great defense, Alcaraz and it's why it's just so hard to beat him.
Speaker B:I mean the only way you get to beat Alcaraz is if he's just having a slide off day and his unforced error count is just a bit too high and you're playing a terrific game.
Speaker B:Those two worlds need to come together, but it's a rare day when that happens.
Speaker A:Hasn't been any surprises from the other results.
Speaker A:I think it's all kind of played out.
Speaker A:I think Mercedi winning this morning was probably the only upset.
Speaker A:Zver on day one beat Ben Shelton.
Speaker A:I think he was down three set points in that second set, tiebreaker.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:And he just rattled off five winners in a row to take out the tiebreak 86 and win that match.
Speaker A:But he looked good as well.
Speaker A:Zver should we just End the tournament now and go straight to the Cinera Alcaraz final.
Speaker A:Does anyone think there's actually going to be somebody come.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:On that.
Speaker A:Come up here and cause an upset?
Speaker B:Yeah, I. I think so.
Speaker B:I think they should just play five days consecutively, best of three sets.
Speaker B:And there's just, you know, whoever has the most wins just crowning the champion.
Speaker B:That's all.
Speaker B:What we came to pay for.
Speaker B:That's what we came to see.
Speaker B:Just let's get the show on the road.
Speaker B:Let's do it.
Speaker A:No one likes foreplay, Right.
Speaker C:That, that Sinner and Felix match, you've scared me off saying his last name now.
Speaker C:Or Al.
Speaker C:Is that right?
Speaker A:That's it, Al.
Speaker C:It's.
Speaker A:I won't lie.
Speaker A:I panicked.
Speaker B:I just.
Speaker A:I panicked and said, felix.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Again, that, that first set, you know, 75.
Speaker C:But then you could see it in that second set.
Speaker C:He's just scrambling for options.
Speaker C:He's.
Speaker C:It looked like he looked like a defeated man, like, mentally, like the decision making looked poor at times.
Speaker C:But, you know, you attribute that to Sinner putting that pressure on.
Speaker C:Yeah, just.
Speaker C:He looks like hopeless out there in that second set.
Speaker A:Look like there was a gulf between them.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker A:It was a hell of a first set, though.
Speaker C:A bit like the.
Speaker C:The Demon or one.
Speaker C:You know, the first set.
Speaker A:Yeah, it was the same.
Speaker A:It could have just went either way.
Speaker C:And then they just drop off.
Speaker C:It's hard to match it with Sinner and Alcaraz.
Speaker A:Did anyone catch the Alcaraz Fritz match as well this morning?
Speaker A:Again, I haven't had a chance to catch up, but just looking at the score lines, it looks like a hell of a match.
Speaker B:It was.
Speaker B:I did catch the highlights, courtesy of Tennis tv.
Speaker B:Alfred's taking that first set.
Speaker B:I mean, he's able.
Speaker B:He's capable rather of just getting those three points, especially on his first serve.
Speaker B:So he took the tie break in the first.
Speaker B:Alcaraz just clawed his way back into it and he just has just got good staying power.
Speaker B:And as we mentioned before, his hustle and defensive work just making Fritz hit another ball and just wearing him down and just ultimately just winning the crucial points in the end.
Speaker B:And that's what these champions do.
Speaker B:And they just draw on the crowd as well.
Speaker B:And I feel.
Speaker B:I know we spoke about Demon or before and I mean, I feel like that that's part of.
Speaker B:That's another weakness or something that needs to add to his game.
Speaker B:He gets too bit in his shell and like the greats, you know.
Speaker B:You know, Alcaraz, he.
Speaker B:You Know, feeds off the crown.
Speaker B:But on the contrary, you look at Sinner, he's not so much.
Speaker B:He's on the opposite end.
Speaker C:I mean, he's not holding his hand, his finger to his ear to get the crowd to cheer for him.
Speaker B:You barely get anything out of him.
Speaker C:So a bit like a Roger in that sense.
Speaker A:He took the words out of my mouth.
Speaker A:He's the Federer.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Yep.
Speaker B:But not credit to Carlos.
Speaker B:He got the job done.
Speaker B:But in, you know, in these best of three sets, games, I mean, that can, it can easily go another way.
Speaker B:And you know, compared to a Grand Slam where it's.
Speaker B:You're on there for hours on hours on end, you.
Speaker B:You're going to get a chance, an opportunity just to, you know, work your way back and swing momentum in the other way.
Speaker B:But these best of threes, they can, can go quick and you just gotta seize the moment when, when it's there.
Speaker C:Well, you know, you think of any five set match in a Grand Slam that, you know, some of those matches would have been done and dusted.
Speaker C:In a tournament like this, you know, there isn't that opportunity to crawl your way back.
Speaker C:So you have to make it count early on.
Speaker A:Gotta get the job.
Speaker C:That's it.
Speaker A:And will you guys be taking the morning off tomorrow to watch Sinner vs. Verev in the morning?
Speaker A:Will you tell the kids to go play outside for period one and two?
Speaker B:I think my class might be doing a deep dive analysis and an evaluation into the game.
Speaker C:I might turn it into a maths lesson.
Speaker B:Statistics.
Speaker A:So the first match of tonight will be Shelton against OJ Aliasimi.
Speaker A:Again, I botched it because that was a woke.
Speaker B:That was woeful, right?
Speaker A:That was a wife.
Speaker A:No, I will not try again.
Speaker A:Felix takes on Shelton tonight and then the later game is the main event.
Speaker A:As I said, Sinner versus Zverev, which should be a good match as well.
Speaker B:But double donut.
Speaker B:Are we, are we thinking, you know, Sinner, you know, just bagels him.
Speaker B:Love and love, I mean they're love their record.
Speaker B:Sinner has absolutely bent him over and just taken him to town every single time.
Speaker B:And it's just getting ugly and nastier.
Speaker B:Adam, I'm sure you've got the match head to head, you know, nearby.
Speaker B:Please enlighten us.
Speaker A:It's not as bad as what you're making it out to me, but it was more the last match he.
Speaker A:It was the semi final in Paris where Sinner won six love, six one.
Speaker A:So it was a bit of a shellacking.
Speaker A:But the matches before that they haven't been that bad.
Speaker A:The match before was a final.
Speaker A:Sinner 1 in 3, 7, 5 in the third Aussie Open cine 1 in straight sets.
Speaker A:That was earlier on this year.
Speaker A:And then last year in Cincinnati it was a tight three set sinner one.
Speaker A:Sinner is four and zip in the last four matches.
Speaker A:Zver won the last four before that.
Speaker A:But we're going back to 20, 20, 20, 21.
Speaker A:Chris, you might say, yeah, but if you watch the game, Sin is just destroying him in game.
Speaker A:Maybe you're right.
Speaker A: rassing for a semi final of a: Speaker A:Maybe that is playing on Zer's mind tonight.
Speaker B:It's going to be hard to escape that from the memory bank.
Speaker B:But good luck to him.
Speaker B:I, I love to see Zverev, you know, knock off sinner but he's gonna have to produce a heck of a performance.
Speaker B:And sinner, well, he's just gonna do sinner things.
Speaker B:He's gonna work like an animal during the points and he's gonna walk like he's just been, you know, run over by a truck in between points.
Speaker B:You know, sinner's an interesting cat, but he's a machine.
Speaker B:He's got some forehand.
Speaker C:Yeah, there was on what some of the highlights I think was on tennis tv.
Speaker C:It was the sinner maybe in the sinner Felix game and the highlights was like courtside or at eye level.
Speaker C:You got a real good sense of how he hits the ball, you know, compared to the others.
Speaker C:Yeah, just they just don't have the time to get there and react and then hit a good enough point.
Speaker C:By that stage he's moved into position and just puts him away.
Speaker C:It's.
Speaker C:Yeah, he's very, very strong.
Speaker C:It'll be interesting to see.
Speaker C:I think like you said before, Adam, let's just move on to the synchroz final already.
Speaker B:Let's do it.
Speaker A:Oh, that was what Chris said.
Speaker A:I think Fritz is a chance to maybe disrupt the apple car potentially.
Speaker A:That's my pick of somebody who could potentially disrupt anything.
Speaker A:I can't see his very violent.
Speaker A:So I'm gonna go with Fritz.
Speaker A:That's similar to Chris.
Speaker A:I think we're destined for the alcare final.
Speaker C:Well, yeah, I think when you look at this top eight, who else really would possibly challenge any of them?
Speaker C:Shelton.
Speaker C:Felix, like Felix.
Speaker B:Felix is in form.
Speaker B:I mean, if he's gonna do it, it's, you know, now's a good time.
Speaker B:But he's, you know, played well, in the lead up tournament into this, so.
Speaker B:Yeah, and he's sort of come from nowhere as well.
Speaker B:I mean he hasn't been going that deep into tournaments but he's maybe he's turned a corner.
Speaker B:We'll see if it's.
Speaker B:If he can scalp, scalp a big name.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:And I think that was, that was my surprise that you know, in last few years where, you know, he made top 10 and then he was out of it for so long and you know, now he's back again so maybe he's peaking at the right time, but time will tell.
Speaker C:Yep.
Speaker A:By this time next week we will.
Speaker C:Y.
Speaker A:All righty.
Speaker A:Any more on Torino?
Speaker B:Nothing play out.
Speaker B:Let the rest play out, wait for the synchro final just to, you know, happen.
Speaker B:And if we're surprised, we're surprised and we'll give us a lot to talk about next week.
Speaker A:Sounds good.
Speaker C:All right, I have a quick item.
Speaker A:On to our next segment.
Speaker A:Oh yeah, sure.
Speaker C:Quick item that I'd like to jump in with.
Speaker A:Just disrupt my agenda, but that's fine.
Speaker C:Much to Chris's dismay, the WTA finals, which, which I'm sure you saw with Rybakina.
Speaker C:Rybakina, how do you pronounce it?
Speaker C:River King or Ribakina.
Speaker C:Defeating.
Speaker A:It was a bit of an upset.
Speaker C:Did you see the interesting thing after?
Speaker B:Oh, I certainly did, yes.
Speaker B:But that's, it's only because I've got the biggest, biggest crush on Rabakina.
Speaker B:I love it to pieces and I just wish.
Speaker A:And you were also our racist deep down.
Speaker B:Well, we won't go there, I mean, especially for our pilot.
Speaker B:But I mean, I can only hope, I wish like another life that, you know, she was, you know, single.
Speaker B:I mean her and Vukov, her coach.
Speaker B:I mean there's a lot going on there, a lot to unpack.
Speaker B:But yes, to answer your question, I've done a deep dive and analysis into that and very interesting her reaction in the ceremonial.
Speaker C:It was just a bizarre look.
Speaker C:Sabalenka holding the runner up trophy, standing there waiting for her to come over for the photo and then just having to take the photo even though she didn't win.
Speaker C:It was just very bizarre.
Speaker A:So did she end up taking a picture at all with Sabalanka?
Speaker B:It wasn't because of Sabalanka, it was because of the CEO that was.
Speaker A:I'm well aware of that.
Speaker A:I'm asking, once the CEO just shuffled off, was there a picture of just them two or was there no picture at all?
Speaker B:You'd imagine so, yeah.
Speaker B:They're Pretty close.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:Maybe she didn't want to take a picture.
Speaker B:I didn't stick around for that long.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Another.
Speaker A:It can't be because.
Speaker A:It can't be because what, what we're all thinking, surely.
Speaker B:Or is it what, because Savannah is playing Battle of Sexism?
Speaker A:Well, Chris, I'm sure you.
Speaker A:You follow her on Instagram, so she made any comments or anything.
Speaker B:No, I don't follow her on Instagram.
Speaker B:It's one of the few socials I do not partake in, but I just leave it to Art Tennis just to provide me with the glorious news and headshots.
Speaker B:And I think even my Reddit algorithm is just trying to make me join her fan pages as well, just to steal headshots and her beautiful smile.
Speaker B:But I think because I stop and I look at those posts, I don't necessarily join, but because I've stopped and looked, they just keep feeding me more and more.
Speaker B:But no, to answer your question, I have not, I have not come across anything.
Speaker B:I just.
Speaker B:I just get lost in our eyes.
Speaker A:There's nothing wrong with joining the.
Speaker A:There's nothing wrong with joining the fan pages at all.
Speaker A:No, it's, it's.
Speaker A:It's not gay at all.
Speaker A:So obviously we're not going to get any criticism about her actions from Chris.
Speaker C:I too.
Speaker C:Well, not too.
Speaker C:No, I, I think.
Speaker B:Yeah, you better not.
Speaker A:Sorry, mate.
Speaker C:I just, I just found interesting.
Speaker C:I'm not really.
Speaker A:You two think she's beautiful.
Speaker C:I too agree that.
Speaker C:Not that I agree.
Speaker C:I don't really care what she does.
Speaker C:Just that I just found it hilarious, actually.
Speaker C:But on that, in that same tournament, IGA was knocked out by Anisimova and possibly redemption from the Wimbledon final where Iga won.
Speaker C:Or she bageled her six love.
Speaker C:Six love and then came back to knock her out.
Speaker C:But Iga is only 53% against the top 10, so not, not very strong.
Speaker C:It's no demon or numbers, obviously, but for someone like iga, you'd expect it to be a bit better.
Speaker C:But you know how you expect to win tournaments when you're only at 53% at that stage.
Speaker C:Yeah, obviously a bit different if she's playing on at Roland Garros.
Speaker B:Here we go, Adam.
Speaker A:Okay, lads.
Speaker B:Adam the animal brought it up.
Speaker A:This is why they call me the animal.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:All the tenacity in the world.
Speaker A:We're going to watch this 30 second video with no sounds and then Chris will be the judge.
Speaker A:I'll get you to be the judge.
Speaker B:Can you just do a please on the person wearing Yonex gear.
Speaker A:The guy in the middle.
Speaker B:No, no, no, he's not important.
Speaker C:Your scarf is Yonik's, mate.
Speaker A:All right, I'm gonna start playing.
Speaker A:Okay, so picture one.
Speaker A:Done.
Speaker A:Beautiful.
Speaker A:And then we're gonna keep going.
Speaker A:We'll shuffle off.
Speaker A:I'm gonna try and do commentary while this happens.
Speaker A:And then the CEO of so and so.
Speaker A:It's a little bit awkward, guys.
Speaker C:It's just a little bit awkward casually standing off to the side there.
Speaker A:Casually going, no, I refuse to stand in the middle there.
Speaker B:And I think she take a picture.
Speaker A:To answer.
Speaker A:To answer my question, she does take a picture at the end, shuffles off.
Speaker A:So I think that's.
Speaker A:I rest my case.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:This makes.
Speaker A:Makes no impact for Chris whatsoever.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker B:Well, what are you guys talking about?
Speaker B:Can you just replay what we were just watching?
Speaker A:I'm glad you brought that up, Adrian.
Speaker A:I think that's.
Speaker A:It's important we cover that.
Speaker A:Yeah, I mean, she's Russian, right?
Speaker C:Born in Russia.
Speaker C:Born in Russia, Yeah.
Speaker A:Enough said.
Speaker B:When she plays the Australian Open, what hotel do you think she'll stay at?
Speaker B:Just, you know.
Speaker C:Usually.
Speaker A:Why don't you message her on Instagram.
Speaker C:And ask her the Aussie Open have jobs that you can apply for.
Speaker C:Maybe you can apply for one of the drivers.
Speaker B:Yes, the driver might be a great job.
Speaker C:Get to drive around.
Speaker B:Do you reckon they have trackers in the car?
Speaker B:If I just let do like a detour to Dean's side, you know, do you reckon Dr.
Speaker A:I'll get followed?
Speaker A:This guy's doxing his address.
Speaker A:All right, it's debate time.
Speaker A:Debate time.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker A:Usually I'm going to save this time for our listener mailbag, but I went out last night on a cold Tuesday nights check the mailbag, and we didn't get any mail.
Speaker A:So instead I did what Chris likes to do most nights, and I trolled Reddit for the.
Speaker A:Well, what are people talking about?
Speaker A:That's what I wanted to know.
Speaker A:And I came across this post, which I know you are both very familiar with and as Chris reminded me, is about two weeks old, but nonetheless, I'm still going to mention it.
Speaker A:It is the world's number thousand player is closer to the number three ranked player than the number three plank rare player is closer to the number two player.
Speaker A:So Alcaraz is 11,250 points.
Speaker A:Zverev is 5,560.
Speaker A:The number 1,000 player is 24.
Speaker A: no one's ever heard of ranked: Speaker A:My question to you, is the top 10 weak and does that make Alcaraz and Sinner seem better than what they are and are they actually goats?
Speaker A:Chris, over to you.
Speaker B:Think?
Speaker B:No, to both of those questions.
Speaker C:So know that the top 10 is weak.
Speaker B:I think it's very, it's, it's incredibly hard to judge.
Speaker B:And I think Carlos Alcaraz and Yannick Sinner are just making the, you know, the other eight of the ten top ten plays look far weaker than what they actually are.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:Yeah, what was the first part of the question?
Speaker A:Some would say they are already, I'm gonna say already goats, but while on their way to becoming goats.
Speaker B:Well, yeah.
Speaker C:What age?
Speaker C:22.
Speaker A:He's 22.
Speaker C:22.
Speaker C:And he's got what grand slams is it?
Speaker B:Six.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So if you look at how many grand.
Speaker B:Yeah, they've more than Nadal and Federer at their respective ages.
Speaker C:Yes, well, Federer only started getting his later in his career, didn't he?
Speaker B:Yeah, that's right.
Speaker B:But at the same time, I mean, yeah, you could, sure, you could argue the depth of quality maybe, isn't there?
Speaker B:I mean them two are the only really real ones that are challenging each other.
Speaker B:Where if we probably dated back, you know, 20, 20, 15 years ago, there was probably half a dozen to a dozen where on a bit more of a level playing field.
Speaker B:But in terms of head to heads go, it seems like Alcaraz and Sinner are the only ones really the ones where it's a pure toss up.
Speaker B:50.
Speaker B:50.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:I'll throw this question then in before, before I get your thoughts.
Speaker A:Age.
Speaker A: nt to like a random time, say: Speaker A:And then I rattle off these names who are 3 to 10.
Speaker A:Novak Djokovic, Andy Murray, Robin Sottling, Thomas Burdage, David Ferrer, Andy Roddick, the Dasco and Mikhail.
Speaker A:Usually there's a name I've heard for a long time, Arc and Alcaraz as dominant as Nadal and Federer were at that time against that competition.
Speaker A: ont of me, but I feel like in: Speaker A:So someone probably in their mid-20s.
Speaker C:Yeah, you've got some, you know, some other big names there.
Speaker C:You Got a Djokovic and Amari sitting there casually, casually.
Speaker C: Again, this is a: Speaker A:It's not.
Speaker A:Yes, that's true as well.
Speaker B:I mean, Burdick, again, was no slouch as well.
Speaker B:He reminds me a lot of Zverev, particularly of just making it to semis and finals of Slams and never quite.
Speaker B:Just getting that.
Speaker B:Getting over the line when it mattered the most.
Speaker C:But, you know, he's not getting over the line because he's coming across.
Speaker C:You know.
Speaker B:That's right.
Speaker C:Would he get over the line against a current, a sinner, or Alcaraz?
Speaker C:It's tough to say.
Speaker C:It is tough to say.
Speaker C: in: Speaker C:I think that Sino and Alcaraz would have a harder time winning as many tournaments compared to now.
Speaker C:But.
Speaker C:Yeah, at the end of the day, how do you really know It's.
Speaker C:Yeah, it is tough.
Speaker B: players back in: Speaker B:I think that might give you a good, you know, a good way to analyze the.
Speaker B:The depth and quality of the top 10 back then compared to now.
Speaker B:I mean, now I.
Speaker B:We do see a lot more fluctuations in and out of the top 10 compared to perhaps back then when it was maybe a bit more set.
Speaker B:But then again, that's just going by.
Speaker B:Yeah, purely what I feel.
Speaker B:I don't have the numbers in front of me, but it feels like back then.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I don't know, maybe those players were at a bit more of a capacity to beat the.
Speaker B:The likes of Djokovic and Murray, maybe Nadal, depending on the surface.
Speaker B:You get him on.
Speaker C:Well, you know, Murray was still good enough to win.
Speaker C:How many Grand Sams was it?
Speaker B:Three.
Speaker A:Three.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker A:Correct.
Speaker A:Chris.
Speaker A:Lots of runners up, but three.
Speaker A:He won it three times.
Speaker A:Yeah, he beat Djokovic twice and Milos Rayonich once at Wimbledon.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker C: But again, this is a: Speaker A: Yeah, but no, he won it in: Speaker A:So too far after.
Speaker C: But I think in: Speaker A: y did make finals around that: Speaker A:So it wasn't.
Speaker A:He was making finals.
Speaker A: Potter was: Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker A: must have got injured in that: Speaker A:In fact, I know he did get injured.
Speaker C:Same with Like a, like an Albandian likes around there.
Speaker C:He was probably towards the end of it.
Speaker A:Towards the end from there.
Speaker A:Yeah, I just thought it was an interesting discussion point around the top 10.
Speaker A:And I don't know, maybe it's because these guys who have finished their career now, but I feel like they were up there for longer.
Speaker A:They might not necessarily won anything, guys like Burdich and Ferrer and Sonder and those sort of guys, but felt like they were there for longer and more consistent.
Speaker A:Not that they ended up challenging them seriously, but they were there.
Speaker A:And it does feel like the top 10 is a little bit more fluid today in saying that if, if history follows, who's the number three?
Speaker A:Who's the Djokovic that comes in and disrupts this top two?
Speaker A:Because history is just following it soon as the new Federal and Alcarez is the new dull.
Speaker A:Who's the Djokovic?
Speaker C:Who's that?
Speaker A:Who's the joker?
Speaker C:Brazilian bloke.
Speaker B:Are you going to say Fonseca?
Speaker B:He's got a long way to go.
Speaker B:Yeah, well, long, yes, we'd like to see it, but you think it's.
Speaker B:Yeah, someone who's already maybe in the top 15, top 20.
Speaker B:But hey, look, then again, in tennis, I mean, it doesn't take much to, to crack a top 50.
Speaker B:I mean, if you look at, I'm going to mispronounce his name, but Vacarov from Monaco a couple, couple weeks ago, when he came all the way through, qualifies.
Speaker B:Two cousins.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker B:Brothers, cousins or brothers cousins?
Speaker B:Cousins, yeah.
Speaker B: st make to the final of a ATP: Speaker B:Plus, you know.
Speaker C:Silly question, do you get 1,000 points?
Speaker C:I'd assume so for winning that.
Speaker B:I'd suspect so.
Speaker B:I mean, I really follow the points closely, but yes, I, I think that's how it works.
Speaker C:Okay, well that would be a message touching on that.
Speaker A:I'll get back to you next week.
Speaker C:About, you know, the gap between the top two and the three and then from three to 1,000, if you're getting 1,000 points just from that one tournament, that's a, that would be an insane jump, you know.
Speaker A:Yeah, but how the rankings work is they take off, it's versus what you did last year as well.
Speaker A:Okay, so if you didn't play the tournament and then you win, you get a thousand.
Speaker A:But if you, as far as I understand it, if you win it last year, and then win it this year you effectively get no points.
Speaker B:So they work out the difference.
Speaker A:It's as far as I understand, it's the difference.
Speaker A:I can't say I'm an expert on the rankings, but it's.
Speaker A:You have to pretty much protect your position or the points that you earned last year and almost better that.
Speaker C:Which.
Speaker A:I don't know if that makes that feat more incredible or less incredible.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:So played it.
Speaker A:Sorry.
Speaker B:He's probably never played it or, you know, I've made it to, you know, a first round of a or even second round of ATP Thousand.
Speaker B:So he's got no points to defend.
Speaker B:Really.
Speaker B:He's going in fresh.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:Which is good.
Speaker A:That means whatever he makes, he makes.
Speaker C:That's going to be hard for you.
Speaker B:The time will come next year.
Speaker B:That's right.
Speaker C:He's gonna have to back it up again.
Speaker A:It's for the.
Speaker A:The NEATO finals.
Speaker A: It's: Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker A:I also get $5 million.
Speaker B:Just a lazy five mil.
Speaker A:Just a lazy five mil final.
Speaker A:That's if you're the.
Speaker A:Sorry.
Speaker A:That's if you're the undefeated champion.
Speaker A:You get 5 mil, 2.3 mil if you win the final.
Speaker C:And Sinner won it last year.
Speaker A:Oh, I should know because I was watching the history of the tournament.
Speaker A:I believe he did win it last year.
Speaker C:So he's possibly up for the 5 mil.
Speaker B:He's going to remain undefeated.
Speaker C:That's it.
Speaker A:Alcaraz is as well.
Speaker B:We shall see.
Speaker B:We.
Speaker A:We shall see.
Speaker A:Okay, did anyone have anything else they wanted to talk about for the.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker B:I want to get on with this quiz that you've been, you know, been mentioning for the past hour and my competitive juices are just flowing right now and I'm brimming foaming at the mouth here.
Speaker B:Let's get this on the way.
Speaker A:That's because we were talking about the WTA for five or ten minutes.
Speaker A:Sinner defeated Fritz last year in the final 6 4, 64 record.
Speaker A:Okay, where is my quiz?
Speaker A:You're gonna need to make some audio for the quiz, Chris.
Speaker A:All right, this is how the quiz is going to work.
Speaker A:I'm going to ask four multiple choice questions.
Speaker A:I was hoping you would have your cameras on so I could see you.
Speaker A:Write down A, B, C or D and then you can show me.
Speaker A:But we're going to have to do the honesty policy.
Speaker A:You're both just going to have to tell me A, B, C or D.
Speaker C:I'll write it down.
Speaker A:There will be four questions, multiple choice and then the last question will Be a.
Speaker A:Who am I?
Speaker A:Who am I being?
Speaker A:I'm going to read out a past or present players biography.
Speaker A:You could say bit of history about them and then you're going to jump in if you think you know the answer, you're going to buzz in with your name and you're going to tell me who you think it is.
Speaker A:If you buzz in and get it wrong, you're out.
Speaker A:You're basically giving the other person a free ride until the end of their bio.
Speaker A:So just like the bedroom, you don't want to jump too early.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker B:Oh, I. I believe for our multiple choice we can type our answers.
Speaker B:So that way or just the letter that way you can reveal the answers that way.
Speaker C:That's right.
Speaker C:I'm honest boys.
Speaker A:I don't think honesty policy will be okay.
Speaker A:Yeah, but I could just follow Adrian.
Speaker B:I can just say or you can follow me.
Speaker A:But anyway that is true.
Speaker A:Is it in the chat?
Speaker A:It is in the chat.
Speaker A:We can type.
Speaker A:Fantastic.
Speaker A:I wish I'd known that well earlier.
Speaker B:Pay me the big bucks mate.
Speaker A:You get paid.
Speaker A:The only one who's get paid any bucks around here.
Speaker A:All right, are we ready for the first question?
Speaker C:Do it.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker A: r the second year in a row in: Speaker A:Was it a, Novak Djokovic, B Carlos Alcaraz, C Yannick Sinner or D Stefanos Sitsapass?
Speaker A:Who was voted the ATP fan's favorite singles player for the second in a row?
Speaker A:A. Djokovic, B Alcaraz, C Sinner or D sits a pass?
Speaker B:Is there A Rebecca?
Speaker A:It's for after dark.
Speaker A:You have both put in B. Alcaraz.
Speaker A:It's actually Yannick Sinner is the correct answer.
Speaker C:You know that drew me the fan's favorite player.
Speaker C:I saw that.
Speaker C:The fans, I saw a video that where they voted in best hair on tour last year.
Speaker A:That's ridiculous.
Speaker C:Unfortunately.
Speaker B:Well, did Adrian Manarino win that contest?
Speaker C:He definitely didn't win Titus Strings either.
Speaker B:No, he didn't.
Speaker A:Alrighty, next question.
Speaker A:Question 2.
Speaker A: ked out Novak Djokovic at the: Speaker A:A Alex Demonor, B Tanasi Kokonakis, C Alexi Popperin or D Jordan Thompson?
Speaker A:Do I need to repeat the question?
Speaker B:Yes, you do.
Speaker B: I thought you said: Speaker A:2024 US Open claiming his first top five career win beating Djokovic.
Speaker A:You were both typed in C and you were both correct.
Speaker A:Well done.
Speaker A:It was Alexia Poporan.
Speaker A:I don't have the scores in front of me.
Speaker A:But yeah, he beat Novak Djokovic and I think Chris was the happiest person in the country that day.
Speaker A:I was.
Speaker B:But I believe Rebakkanel also lost that day.
Speaker B:So my celebrations were, yeah, dwarfed and halted.
Speaker A:Jesus, we're a historian in the building.
Speaker A: ns defeating the Dutch in the: Speaker A:Who are the current Davis cup champions defeating the Dutch?
Speaker A:A, Italy, B the United States, C Spain.
Speaker A:You're both doing A, Italy copycatting each other.
Speaker A:You're both correct.
Speaker A:Again, it was Italy.
Speaker A:They are the current champions two apiece.
Speaker A:So this is going to be interesting.
Speaker A:Might come down.
Speaker A:Who am I?
Speaker A:Which will just be riveting for me.
Speaker A:Question 4.
Speaker A:Chris's favorite player, Novak Djokovic, made it 101 career title wins last week at the Pharmaceutical Classic in Greece.
Speaker A:I couldn't be bothered writing the full name, but he's still eight short of the record of 109. Who holds the record for 109 men's career title wins in the Open era?
Speaker A:A, Roger Federer, Bjorn Borg, C Ivan Lindell or d Jimmy Canas?
Speaker A:109 titles.
Speaker A:Who holds the record in the Open era?
Speaker A:A, Federer, B Borg C Lindell.
Speaker A:The Connors.
Speaker B:I think you should let our viewers know how quickly we're putting in our responses.
Speaker A:You don't want the viewers to know how premise.
Speaker A:Chris.
Speaker A:You don't want the viewers to know how premature you are.
Speaker B:Oh, I'm.
Speaker B:I'm an open book.
Speaker A:And yes, Chris has locked in his answer already.
Speaker A:Yes, age is pondering.
Speaker A:Probably good Googling on his phone.
Speaker C:Not.
Speaker C:What kind of man do you take me for?
Speaker C:I don't think it's Roger man that.
Speaker B:Has gluten free beer.
Speaker C:I finished it.
Speaker C:I need my second.
Speaker C:You know what?
Speaker C:Just so I go something different to Chris.
Speaker C:I don't know.
Speaker C:Is it wrong?
Speaker C:Because I think it's D as well.
Speaker B:But no, you shouldn't have told him, Adam.
Speaker A:I didn't say a word about anything.
Speaker A:I don't know why.
Speaker A:If you think it's D, then you should go D. You've both gone D. Jimmy Connors.
Speaker A:You are both correct.
Speaker A:Jimmy Connors has 109 titles.
Speaker C:It is on a bit of paper and I'm looking down.
Speaker C:I'm not looking up at the screen.
Speaker C:Just.
Speaker C:Just so you know, just.
Speaker A:I believe you.
Speaker A:H. You have your camera off, but I believe you.
Speaker A:Lucky.
Speaker A:Last question.
Speaker A:It all comes down to this.
Speaker A:This is going to be great.
Speaker A:Now remember, just buzz in with your name if you think you know the answer.
Speaker A:Who am I?
Speaker A: n in Manahem, West Germany in: Speaker A:My father, Peter first placed a tennis racket in my hair when I was just three years old.
Speaker A:And by the time I was five, I was already practicing for hours each day.
Speaker A:Tennis quickly became my entire world.
Speaker A:I played my first professional tournament at just 13 years old.
Speaker A:And by the time I was 19, I'd claim.
Speaker B:Sorry.
Speaker A: first Grand Slam title at the: Speaker A:My guess, Adrian's jumped in.
Speaker A:Oh, he's done it.
Speaker A:Ladies and gentlemen, Adrian is your champion.
Speaker A:On episode one of Talking Tennis.
Speaker A:It is Steffi Graff.
Speaker B:I'm not happy, I'm not happy.
Speaker B:I, I want to chime in here.
Speaker B:Why do we have a question about the W?
Speaker C:I knew it.
Speaker C:I was thinking who would be a top German player that this could be about?
Speaker C:And I couldn't think of anyone in the men's game.
Speaker B:Too young.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:And then my thoughts jumped to the, the female and I thought, yeah, it's got to be Steffi.
Speaker B:My mind was not going there.
Speaker B:My mind was only on Rebakana.
Speaker B:That's as far as that my mind goes for the wtta.
Speaker B:What a redo.
Speaker A:There will be no redos and we're doing past and present players, male or female, ATP, WTA, the non binary cup.
Speaker A:I don't care.
Speaker A:We're going to do anything because that's the only way it's going to advantage chance of winning this thing.
Speaker A:It will probably be Maresboro.
Speaker A:Maybe not next week, but the week after.
Speaker A:Stephanie Graff won 22 Grand Slam singles titles, including seven at Wimbledon, six at the French Open, five at the US Open.
Speaker A:At four at the Aussie Open, she spent 377 weeks ranked as the world number one.
Speaker A:A mark that stood unmatched for a very, very long time.
Speaker A: In: Speaker A:They're your fun facts of the day.
Speaker A:Well done, Adrian.
Speaker A:You are the winner and I will be keeping all time records of the quiz.
Speaker A:Right now it is one for Adrian and Chris on a big donut of zero.
Speaker B:Could you put an asterisk next to that one please?
Speaker B:The details matter.
Speaker A:They are going to be.
Speaker A:I'll give you the hint already.
Speaker A:They are going to.
Speaker A:I don't want to say obscure players, but I will focus on past and maybe more lesser known obscure players that you will know of, but potentially have forgotten about.
Speaker B:All right, I better fire up the old archives on tennis tv and, you know, just.
Speaker C:I'm gonna.
Speaker A:I think you need to do some homework.
Speaker C:Gonna watch a fry check versus peeling.
Speaker A:So I'll give you the hint already.
Speaker A:The next week's quiz, it's going to be.
Speaker A:Then it's going to be focused on the Nido tournament.
Speaker A:So start doing your homework on that.
Speaker A:And there was a final that I was watching.
Speaker A:I don't know what year it was, but it was Carlos Moya against another Spanion and I've already forgotten his name.
Speaker A:And it was a name I hadn't heard for a very long time.
Speaker A:Started with C. I'm hoping Chris can jump in and tell me who it was.
Speaker C:Spanish around the same or obviously around the same time?
Speaker A:Played obviously around the same time.
Speaker A:It was an all Spanish final.
Speaker C:Not like.
Speaker A:I can't even say his name.
Speaker A:Alex.
Speaker A:Alex.
Speaker A:Alex Coretta.
Speaker B:Not.
Speaker B:Would not have guessed that.
Speaker A:Well, that's who it was.
Speaker A:And if you saw his name.
Speaker C:You.
Speaker B:Would have seen him.
Speaker A:That's who it is there.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker A:Anyway, that's your hint for next week, guys.
Speaker A:You need to study up on the end of your tournament.
Speaker C:Was the 8th finals around back then?
Speaker A:Oh, yeah, mate.
Speaker A:It's been going for years.
Speaker C:No.
Speaker A:Later days.
Speaker A:Yeah, in some way, shape or form.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker C:All right.
Speaker A:It might have been called something else.
Speaker A:Maybe we'll.
Speaker A:Maybe we'll stop it at a certain point.
Speaker A:But there is history there.
Speaker C:Okay?
Speaker A:So I suggest you do some homework this week.
Speaker C:Very good.
Speaker A:Alrighty, lads, challenges.
Speaker A:I look forward to.
Speaker A:I look forward to the antics.
Speaker A:All right, guys, I think we're going to wrap it up there for episode one.
Speaker A:Adrian, Chris, it's been a pleasure.
Speaker A:It's been fun.
Speaker C:Thank you.
Speaker A:Can't wait to do it all again next week.
Speaker C:Yep, look forward to it.
Speaker B:We'll have much.
Speaker C:Adrian.
Speaker B:Guys, there will be.
Speaker A:Adrian, any farewell words you want to say to the tens of thousands listening?
Speaker C:Just.
Speaker C:No, I think I had a little bit of.
Speaker C:I think I may have had some gluten in my dinner now.
Speaker C:I'm not feeling too well, so, you know, it's got to.
Speaker A:All right, we better.
Speaker A:We better wrap this up then.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:And Tinker plunger with you.
Speaker C:It's all happening.
Speaker A:Alrighty.
Speaker A:Well, good luck with that.
Speaker A:We look forward to next week's update.
Speaker A:Chris, any farewell words from you?
Speaker B:No, none.
Speaker B:Just good luck on the bog, Adrian.
Speaker C:All right.
Speaker B:Seems like, you know, the encouragement you can get.
Speaker B:Be well and I'll.
Speaker B:I'll exact my revenge.
Speaker B:Next week and I'll get you back.
Speaker A:We'll do it all again next week.
Speaker A:Thank you very much.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:Thank you.
Speaker B:It's talking tennis.
Speaker A:Cut that out.