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WELCOME TO OUR KITCHEN: Let's talk about snacks for a road trip!
Episode 7324th March 2025 • Cooking with Bruce and Mark • Bruce Weinstein & Mark Scarbrough
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The best part about road trips? Snacks in the car! We have a list of our favorites. Maybe you can add them to yours.

We're Bruce Weinstein & Mark Scarbrough, veteran cookbook authors who are about to publish our thirty-seventh cookbook. We've got a passion for food and cooking that we'd like to share with you.

Plus, a one-minute cooking tip about coolers. And what's making us happy in food this week.

Here are the segments for this episode of COOKING WITH BRUCE & MARK:

[00:39] Our one-minute cooking tip: keep a cooler in your car when you go shopping.

[02:22] Road-trip food: snacks to take in the car, the best treats to have on hand, and our favorites.

[15:22] What’s making us happy in food this week: loaded baked potatoes and an East Indian inspired trifle for dessert.

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Bruce:

Hey, I am Bruce Weinstein and this is the Podcast

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Cooking with Bruce and Mark.

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Mark: And I'm Mark s Scarborough.

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And together with Bruce, we have

written three dozen now, plus one,

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three dozen plus one in cookbooks.

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It's going to be published this summer.

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We'll tell you more about that in

another episode of this podcast.

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But for now, this is our.

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Podcast about food and cooking

the passions in our life.

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We've got, as is typical,

a one minute cooking tip.

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We're gonna talk about road trip, food,

food to take in the car on a road trip.

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We just came back from one, so

perhaps we have some ideas about

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what to do, and we'll tell you what's

making us happy in food this week.

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Let's get started.

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Bruce: Our one minute cooking tip.

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Keep a cooler in your

car when you go shopping.

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It keeps frozen, things frozen

till you get home from the

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store, especially in summer.

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Now, mark already taught me that

Southerners know this, but I'm a Yankee.

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I didn't know this till I met him.

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So yeah, you do that and

while we're at it and Wait,

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Mark: can I just stop?

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You don't have to keep a

big ass cooler in your car.

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You can keep a little small.

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Mm-hmm.

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And so called.

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Beer cooler in your car.

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It doesn't have to be a big thing to

get ice cream home from the supermarket.

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Bruce: Well, and all

those frozen onion rings.

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And if you do a lot of frozen

vegetables, you want a frozen.

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Yeah,

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Mark: if you're gonna do a big box

store run, you need a big cooler,

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but you can use a smaller one

for just regular supermarket run.

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Bruce: And while we're at

it, here's another tip.

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Get all your frozen food last at

the store before you check out.

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Don't put all the frozen stuff

in your cart and then spend 45

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minutes going through the aisles.

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Mark: And while we're at it, if you pack

your own groceries, make sure you put.

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The frozen food in the same bag or the

cold food, like milk and frozen food.

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Mm-hmm.

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In the same bag.

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Okay.

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Before we get to our next segment,

uh, the podcast, the big segment about

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roadtrip food, let me say that it would

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There you can find more talk from

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Plus a series of cooking and lifestyle

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Okay.

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Up next road trip food.

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Bruce: Some people are road trip

people and some people aren't.

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Road trip people.

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Yeah.

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Oh, who wasn't?

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And they tend to marry each other.

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Who

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Mark: wasn't on road, road trip or

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Bruce (2): something.

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Tend to

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Mark: marry each other.

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Yeah.

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What Texas Boy was a road trip person.

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And what?

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New Yorker wasn't a road trip person.

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Person.

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I haven't, IT been in a car

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Bruce: for years.

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Yeah.

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When you met me.

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And why didn't you like car trips?

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Well, I took taxis, but why didn't I

like, because I get car sick if I'm

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sitting in the back or if I'm not driving.

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Mark: What happened when you were a kid

and you were sitting in the back of a car?

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Bruce: Oh, my mother would smoke

in the car uhhuh and I would spend

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the entire, and this wasn't just a

kid, this is up until I was in my.

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Thirties and I would spend the entire

time in the car with my shirt over my

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face and opening the windows and having

her yell at me to close the windows.

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It was disgusting.

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Mark: There's nothing like smoking in

a closed window car to just really,

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uh, give you the full experience.

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Mm-hmm.

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Okay.

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So we recently went on a road trip.

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We took a trip down to see our literary

agent, and then on to see Bruce's

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cousins who live in Washington DC.

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And then we did, uh, something

that I wanted to do probably for.

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40 years, and that is we went

to the Gettysburg Battlefield.

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I totally geeked out on history.

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I'd read a couple of giant six and 700

page histories of Gettysburg Battle.

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I was totally prepared for this thing.

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Bruce: I was just shocked that it was.

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As small as it was.

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You know, they were talking about

ridges and hills and I was expecting

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mountains and cliffs and No, it wasn't.

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Mark: Yeah.

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Yeah.

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It was really small.

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Anyway, and then we went on on the road

trip for a while and got back home.

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It was a big, long, big circle trip

back to New England, and of course

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you can imagine that our car was full.

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Of snacks.

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Bruce: Well, my sister has a theory

and she's absolutely right and

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'cause she does love road trips

and she says snacks are essential.

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They're are.

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It's Julie's theory of road trips.

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Snacks are essential.

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Mark: So here's the deal about snacks in

a car and we've got several tips about

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road trip food and snacks in a car.

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And you probably know this one,

but I just wanna reiterate it and

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that is snacks for a car trip.

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Do not.

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Needs silverware.

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You should not have to take out

a fork or a knife and for, for

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god's sake, a knife fork and a

spoon in order to eat in the car.

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Sometimes Bruce and I have stopped

and gotten a sandwich in the car.

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This is always less than

satisfactory because.

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In the end, let's say he'll be driving

and I'm sitting in the passenger

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seat and I'm having to wrap the

sandwich repeatedly in napkins.

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Mm-hmm.

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So it doesn't drip all

over him as he drives.

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It's never completely satisfying.

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And it's also, I have to

say, not completely safe.

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Bruce: It's not, and

sometimes you're lucky.

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Even though you have great snacks

in the car, you're lucky and you

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find a good restaurant because even

on a long road trip, a restaurant

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is often a nice thing to go into.

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We were coming home once from

QVC in western Pennsylvania.

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We were selling one of our books

and it was really bad weather.

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We were trying to get home, but

we were hungry and it was late.

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It was like 10 o'clock at night.

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And Mark.

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Was driving and he said, see

if you can find anything open.

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We're outside of Scranton.

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Mark: And

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Bruce: I asked, get

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Mark: Dun Mifflin country,

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Bruce: right?

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And I said, well, there's

a Mexican restaurant that's

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showing up with good reviews.

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Now I'm thinking a Mexican

restaurant outside of Scranton.

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I don't know.

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But we went.

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So we go and we're driving there, we're

following the directions on ways, and it's

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taking us into this neighborhood, right?

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These are houses.

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There weren't any restaurants here.

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Turned out somebody was running

a restaurant in their living

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room, and it was some of the

best tamales I've ever had.

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Mark: Okay, but that's

finding a restaurant.

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You promised a section on road trips.

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Well, that was road trip food.

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No, we were on a road

trip and we got lucky.

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I, I we're talking

about eating in the car.

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I thought, okay, fine.

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There are all kinds of restaurants

out there and I'm sure you know.

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How to find them.

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But it's always great to try to find

the local places because let's face it,

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in this economy and in this world, it's

great to support local and small, mm-hmm.

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Businesses.

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Mm-hmm.

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Rather than do the easy thing,

which is to pull off from the chain.

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You know how to find these places,

you know, all the apps and.

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Best to support a local business in

some way, although again, you are

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not gonna get exactly what you know.

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That's the, the beauty, the attraction

of the big chain places is you can

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get exactly what you already know

you're gonna get, but maybe you

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should venture out a little bit.

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Okay, so let's talk about

inside the car itself.

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Um, inside the car itself is

really, uh, difficult in some

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ways to get decent snacks for it.

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But at the same time, there's

all kinds of good things to try.

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And I think in our car, for Bruce

particularly, jerky is just the king.

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Bruce: Oh, I love it.

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No refrigeration.

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There are so many varieties.

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This last trip we went into a

little local organic market.

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We, and they had quite.

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An array of jerkies.

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And what did

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Mark: mark

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Bruce: it?

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You got the vegan jerky made from soy.

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It was actually better than the

Australian jerky that I bought,

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although mine was spicier.

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I liked that, but mine was

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Mark: cheaper as vegan jerky.

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It was much cheaper,

and I actually loved it.

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It was this maple Chipotle vegan.

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Jerky been formed, of

course, as it processed, yes.

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But it was a really

great treat for the car.

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And I should say, and you probably

know this, uh, better than I do,

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but when you get snacks for the car,

make sure you don't just get a bunch

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of carbonated stuff and make sure

you don't get a lot of, uh, flavors.

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Make sure you do have water.

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We learned about.

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Carbonation on this trip, didn't we?

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Bruce: Well, I bought two big bottles

of water in that same organic market,

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and I didn't know they were carbonated.

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Mm-hmm.

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I didn't read the label carefully.

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Mm-hmm.

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And so they were getting shaken

around in the back of the car.

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Mm-hmm.

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And then when I carried the bag

and then you were driving and

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I opened one uhhuh and it was.

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Like it was a shower.

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We had

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Mark: a little shower in the car.

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We

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Bruce: did.

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It was our own mini ecosystem

hurricane going on in that car.

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We lived in a

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Mark: terrarium for the next 50 miles.

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We

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Bruce: kind of needed

windshield wipers on the

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Mark: inside of the car.

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It was really disgusting.

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Uh, I should also remind you that

fresh fruit is always great on a car

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trip, and you probably know this.

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But, uh, let's face it, if you

don't have proper refrigeration,

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even berries will go bad on you.

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Blackberries will go in a day or

two in the, the car, and they get so

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Bruce: moldy.

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Mark: Yeah, blueberries

will start to get mushy, but

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Bruce: that doesn't mean

don't buy them, right?

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So buy them, but eat them first.

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Eat the fresh fruit first.

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Although oranges are fresh and

they last, so they will give you

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a good almost a week in the car.

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But go for dried fruit once

you finish up the fresh fruit.

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And also know that if you're on a

trip for more than two or three days.

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You can stop and replenish, right?

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Mm-hmm.

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Rather than looking for

a restaurant, right?

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Look for a small, little, uh,

health food store, organic market.

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Or even if you need to, you can go into

a Whole Foods or a Trader Joe's, and

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sometimes that's a lot better for you

than stopping at the fast food shop.

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Mark: Well, you know, to be

honest with you, trader Joe's.

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So set up for snacking.

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Mm-hmm.

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Because so much of it is

packaged food in various ways.

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So a Trader Joe's is a great

choice for our road trip.

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'cause you can really stock

up, and I think Bruce is right.

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Don't just stock up once.

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You should stock up over several days.

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Because the other thing is what

you want today is not necessarily

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what you want in three days.

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Mm-hmm.

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And it starts to look kind of.

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Icky, as you stare at that box of

crackers for three days, it starts

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to look kind of gross after a while.

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So it's best to to, to

kind of do this repeatedly.

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We did this with my brother and my nephew.

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Uh, when, when we went to bury my mom, uh,

after she died in December, we took an.

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Eight and a half hour drive from

where my brother lives to where

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my mom's cemetery plot was.

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We went on this gigantic road trip

and then eight and a half hours

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back the next day after her service.

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So it was an extensive road trip, but

we bought lots and lots of snacks and

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my brother kept saying, snacks are key.

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Snacks are key.

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'cause he was sitting there driving

and eating, I don't know, you know, um,

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cinnamon coated nuts out of a bag and he.

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Just kept saying

repeatedly, snacks are key.

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And I thought it was, and jerky was

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Bruce: key on that trip.

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We stopped at a truck stop in Missouri.

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No, no,

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Mark: no, no, no.

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We didn't stop at a truck stop.

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This tells for you what

a New Yorker you bar.

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What did we stop at?

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It was Bucky's.

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Uhhuh.

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Bruce: It's a truck stop.

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No, it's not.

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It happens to have 200 gas bump.

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It's a lifestyle.

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Mark: Bucky's is a complete lifestyle.

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So we get

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Bruce: into this thing that's the

size of four football fields at least.

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And.

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One entire wall is the jerky bar.

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Mark: Yep.

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Bruce: And they had dried meat from every

animal that walked or swam or human flew.

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Human,

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Mark: human.

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Bruce: Human.

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Go on.

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Interesting.

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That didn't even ask for that.

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Yeah.

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That would've been,

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Mark: I'm sure they sell it at Bucky's.

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They sell everything.

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Bruce: They sell everything

at Bucky's and we stocked up.

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They had the fudge factory there.

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I, I just

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Mark: wish you could have been at Bucky's

with me and watched my New York Jewish

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husband walk into Bucky's and it was.

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We were bearing mom on Christmas Eve,

so it was the day before Christmas Eve

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and the whole place is Christmas trees

and Christmas sweaters and people buying

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Christmas presents, going to Bucky's

to do Christmas shopping and pick up

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the stocking stuffers and all that.

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It was packed, and I wish you

could have seen my New York

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Jewish husband walk in there.

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I wish you could have seen the

look on his dumbfounded face.

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And there was this look of.

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Utter, um, astonishment and contempt

and revulsion and attraction.

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Mm-hmm.

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All at one second.

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Bruce: There were probably 10,000 people

in there, and I bet I could not have

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gotten a minion together if I wanted to.

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Mark: bet you most people don't

know what a minion is, but

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okay, so it goes Google it.

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Bruce: Google

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Mark: it.

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Um, again, let's go back to

shopping around for snack food.

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We often find that really great

snacks come from, let's say

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the Korean food market chain.

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Mm.

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H Mart.

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Oh gosh.

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Which is across the country, everywhere.

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Mm-hmm.

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And we find that the H Mart has great.

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Choices of interesting soy flavored chips.

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And I mean, listen, you don't

have to get those shrimp crisps.

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Bruce: Oh, what about the just

the dried fried whole fish.

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They're so fabulous.

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Or just like eating potato

chips, but they're actually fish.

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Bruce (2): Yeah.

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Bruce: And they're wonderful.

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You get eel that way.

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It's like there's some amazing stuff you

could try, but you have to be open to it.

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You'll also maybe find fruit

that you hadn't seen before.

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Mark: It's true.

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Bruce: Cut up.

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Beautiful hammy melons and other fruits

that you may not be familiar with,

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that you should try on your road trip.

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Mark: you know, we took a road

trip in September to Quebec and we

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went out to the Gaspe Peninsula.

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And I don't want to tell you about the

Gaspe Peninsula because I don't want

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you to go there because I don't want

anybody else to know about the Gaspe

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Peninsula in Quebec because it was so

incredibly overwhelming and gorgeous.

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It was sticking.

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Out like a thumb into the Gulf of St.

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Lawrence with giant mountains in

the center of the chocks, and then

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these beautiful beaches along the St.

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Lawrence.

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Just, it's an amazing place.

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But we took this road trip

from our house in New England

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around the Gas Bay Peninsula.

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What, for 15, 16 days?

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Yeah, we were

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Bruce: gone a little over two weeks.

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Right.

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Mark: And we were Googling and

doing a lot of searching for various

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places along the way to pick up.

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Picnic and car food snacks.

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And we ended up at a

ton of small fish mies.

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They were

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Bruce: everywhere in

that part of the world.

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And they had standard smoked salmon, which

everybody knows about, and smoked trout.

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But we smoked

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Mark: mackerel.

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Bruce: Ah.

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We found things we've never tried before.

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Like marinated welks?

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Mark: Yeah.

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Bruce: Oh, they were just,

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Mark: they called it snail

salad is what they call it.

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C, yes.

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C

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Bruce: snail.

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They were so delicious and chewy

and vinegary and beautiful.

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We had smoked scallops.

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We had, uh, smoked cod cheeks.

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We did.

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They were amazing.

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We did.

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Mark: because smoked cod cheeks in olive

oil, it was really kind of astounding.

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Now,

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Bruce: those were things that we had at a.

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Picnic, not, we did not

eat those in the car.

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They would've required,

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Bruce (2): that's messy.

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A

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Bruce: fork.

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And they would've required paper towels.

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And let me say this about eating in the

car, you're eating with your hands, right?

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You're also stopping every now and

then to fill the tank up with gas.

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Your hands are touching things.

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Yes.

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Keep a lot of hand sanitizer in the car.

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Because you're in stores, you're in

gas stations, and because you're eating

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with your hands, it's a good idea just

to make sure your hands are always

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sanitized because it's a road trip.

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You don't want to get sick.

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Mark: Oh, God.

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Um, yes, it's always a good idea

that your hands are sanitized.

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Consider that bait and

marriage advice too.

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It's good advice to have

your hands sanitized.

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Make sure, as Bruce says, don't

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Bruce: limit it to your hands.

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Mark: There's a cooler, oh God, there's

a, a cooler and the car is important.

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As Bruce says, A big wide

range of choices are imp.

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Or for road trip snacks.

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All these things make a road

trip much more enjoyable.

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And of course, don't forget your playlist.

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Okay.

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That's our road trip section

of this podcast episode.

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We hope that you enjoyed it and we

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Cooking with Bruce and Mark up next,

as is typical, the last segment.

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Our podcast, what's making

us happy in food this week?

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Okay, so I'm gonna start.

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Okay.

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I never go first, but I'm gonna start.

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And what's making me happy in food

this week is a loaded, baked potato.

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And I know this really is funny

and downscale, and it doesn't

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sound like the typical nine course

dinner party that Bruce makes, but

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I love a loaded baked potato and I.

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Ask for them for dinner every once in

a while, and we had them last night,

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in fact, and it was so great to sit

there with the bacon scallion cheese,

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sour cream butter, baked potato.

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I notice the dairy emphasis here, baked

potato and have that for my dinner.

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I love loaded baked potatoes.

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In fact, my sister-in-law's mother.

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What do you call your

sister-in-law's mother?

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Bruce (2): Your sister-in-law's mother?

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I, I guess so.

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You call, call my brother's mother-in-law.

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Mark: Yeah, I call her Suzanne

anyway, um, so my sister-in-law's

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mother made a baked potato bar one

Christmas when we arrived in St.

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Louis, where they all are.

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And it was a really nice thing to

get off the plane and have just.

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Tons of big baked potatoes and

then a billion toppings strewn out.

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Mm-hmm.

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Across the counter, things you wouldn't

even really imagine necessarily.

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Normally, like salsa and beans, salsa and

all this stuff to put on baked potatoes.

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It was a spectacular way to

start the Christmas holiday.

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Bruce: Well, my favorite topping

from those, uh, toppings yesterday,

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I cooked my own little red beans, and

then I sauteed them with scallions

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and I put in pickled red onions.

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And, uh, is this what's making

you happy and food this week?

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No, I'm just adding that,

that was really delicious.

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That's what made me happy on

the baked potatoes last night.

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Oh, okay.

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But what's making me happy in

food this week is something

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that I'm going to eat tonight.

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Mark: Oh.

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Bruce: And we are having people over

for dinner and I'm making, I know that's

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Mark: making you happy yet, but do go.

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Well, it's making me

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Bruce: happy making it, 'cause

I've already made parts of it.

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It's a dessert, and I

decided to make a trifle.

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Now, we've talked in the past

about how Mark and I come up with.

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Recipe ideas and concepts, and

this is sort of how it worked here.

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I wanted to make a trifle for dessert,

and because I'm doing a lamb curry

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for dinner, I wanted to give East

Indian flavors to this trifle.

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So I made the cake layers are a genis

sponge, and I put a little garam

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masala in with the flour to give it

just a little bit of exotic flavor.

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And then.

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I poached pears in a chai tea syrup.

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Bruce (2): Yum.

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Bruce: And so the pears are gonna be

layered with a little bit of that syrup.

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I made a coconut milk creme pat

that's gonna go on top of that.

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What's it?

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Bruce (2): Creme pat

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Bruce: creme patisserie.

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It's just pastry cream.

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It's the French way of

saying pastry cream.

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I made candied cashews that I'm gonna

chop up and sprinkle in the layers.

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So crazy.

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And I'm going to put an Italian meringue.

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On top of the whole thing, this,

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Mark: this is so depressing.

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Next to loaded baked potato.

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But go on dude.

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Go on.

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So that is

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Bruce: making me happy.

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And I also bought a new ingredient

I'd never seen before and it was

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called for in my lamb curry recipe.

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And it's iris water.

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There's an Indian name for it and

I'm not gonna remember what that

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is, but just like you can get

rose water or orange flower water.

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This is.

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Iris water.

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And what I've read is that you

can flavor desserts with it.

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So I may put a few drops

in the Italian meringue.

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Oh, to give a little floral

scent to the top of that.

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Mark: There may be a

veto coming on that one.

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Uh, I don't know that I want my,

my Italian meringue adulterated.

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Oh, Iris Water.

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Uh, we'll see.

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But this is part of the

negotiation of food in our house.

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Okay.

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That's our podcast for this week.

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Lemme say that we do have a newsletter.

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You can sign up for it on

our website, bruce mark.com.

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Scroll down the.

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Opening page, you'll see a way

to subscribe to the newsletter.

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Unfortunately, you cannot subscribe

to the newsletter via Facebook or via

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Instagram, and I can't capture you there

in order to bring you to the newsletter.

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And it's best in any event that you not

put your email address on social media.

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So you can find that on our

website, bruce and mark.com

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or clicking bruce and mark.com.

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And you can sign up for our

newsletter there, which is.

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Sometimes connected to this

podcast, but often not.

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Bruce: Let me just say, you

should never put any personal

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information on social media at all.

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No.

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And but you should.

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Go to our Facebook group Cooking with

Bruce and Mark where you can tell us

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what is making you happy in food this

week, just like we do every week.

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'cause we want to know what is making

you happy here on cooking with.

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