In this episode of Trust and Influence in B2B Marketing, Joel Harrison sits down with Phil Treagus-Evans, Co-founder and CEO at Giraffe Social. Phil discusses his 2025 book, "Human First Marketing," which provides a framework for putting people back at the center of marketing strategy during a time of AI-generated content saturation. They explore why marketing has drifted away from human connection and how to rebuild trust in a cynical B2B landscape.

💬 Can your brand survive the "AI slop" era by being more human, or will you get lost in the machine-gunned noise?

➡️Phil argues that the trust deficit in marketing stems from an obsession with data-driven optimization that treats customers like spreadsheets rather than real people. He breaks down the three essential levers of human-first marketing—Audience, Team, and Personal Brand—showing how leveraging employee advocacy and authentic leadership can outperform any corporate facade. Phil also shares why the AI revolution actually makes humanity a "superpower" and a rare, valuable competitive edge for those willing to ditch the lazy templates for genuine community engagement. Listen to the full episode to learn the practical steps you can take this week to make your brand seen, trusted, and remembered in an increasingly automated world.

Chapters:

00:00 - Introduction to Trust in B2B Marketing

02:11 - Giraffe Social & Human-First Positioning

03:18 - Patterns of Successful Marketing: People at the Heart

05:47 - The Diagnosis: Why Marketing is Broken

07:57 - Symptoms of a Trust Deficit

09:40 - Squaring the Circle with AI: Anti-Lazy AI

12:55 - Defining Human-First Marketing

15:17 - The Three Levers: Audience, Team, and Personal Brand

20:40 - Authentic Marketing vs. Psychological Tricks

23:52 - Why Human-First is a B2B "Sweet Spot"

26:19 - Actionable Steps: Faces and Community Engagement

29:04 - The Future: Humanity as a Superpower

31:46 - Where to find "Human First Marketing"

Follow Phil Treagus-Evans

https://linkedin.com/in/philtreagusevans/

https://giraffesocial.co.uk/

If you care about making B2B marketing more meaningful, useful, and memorable, this conversation is for you. It’s honest, reflective, and packed with takeaways that can help elevate your approach to thought leadership—whether you're a content creator, strategist, or brand leader.

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